Both ways are correct - it is a matter of personal choice. My personal choice is to start with the big bowl (partly because it is the most valuable and the most important to save) using a screw chuck. The same screw hole can be used to mount the smaller cores for cutting their chuck spigots prior to coring the smaller bowls. Cheers Peter, Woodcut Tools
tks for posting ive just been to a demo and the instructor cut from edge to centre on outside of bowl. i said i thought you worked to the outside .he insisted i was wrong. which is right pse
But you can start from the middle and remove the small bowl first. Many people work this way, but we believe that starting with the big one is best. Happy NY
It seems counterproductive to start cutting at the outer edge. Is there a compelling reason the instructions say to start at the outer edge and not core the smaller bowl first?
i use the exact same one, its about not wasting the timber. i got so sick of most of my timber ending up as shavings on the floor when they could have easily been saved by using this cutter. timber isnt cheap these days and it pays to use it wisely.
Difficult to see the grain with very old, slow growing trees. Huon Pine is such a species and originates in the SW wilderness of Tasmania. There is a log displayed at the entry to the wilderness that is 8-9 feet in diameter and is 3,500 years old! Once finished and oiled the grain pops out and is incredibly beautiful.
Hi Larry, thank you for your question. The Woodcut Bowlsaver is designed to core both side and end grain. When coring end grain recommend ensuring the front of the cutter is sharp and to feel your way in terms of lathe speed (but expect to be 500 to 700 rpm), release the shavings as they accumulate. if you require further information please contact us on support@woodcut-tools.com. Best regards Dan
This system looks like a major pain in the ass, but I'm sure it works well. I run a self-built coring tool, similar to the HannesTool version, though I have both straight and curved bars. No special or gated tool rests, no complicated set-up. Just mark your cut points and go to town. I can make near any shape, from straight sided to drastic curves. It also works great as a massive parting tool (I make some big spindles at times). It may be worth while to offer such a tool in addition to this.
Hi Larry, It is feasible to operate the Woodcut Bowlsaver original with a .75 hp Lathe if the wood is green and the front of the cutter is freshly sharpened. if the wood is dense and hard you will need at least 1.5 hp. Please let us know if we can support you further support@woodcut-tools.com. Best regards Dan
Hi, yes it is feasible to turn the small bowl first and not remount each time, if you use a face plate. Woodcut recommends that a turner starts with the large bowl first from a safety perspective, as it removes the bulk of the wood first.
Muy bueno el dispositivo pero pierde tiempo en centrar de nuevo si empieza desde el centro hacia afuera no desmontaría la pieza principal que le serviría de apoyo para todas las piezas que va a sacar es mi opinión personal
Hi, apologies for the delayed response. Please visit our website to review our products and purchase www.woodcut-tools.com/distributors--links.html We currently don't have a South American based distributor
if you did it by the smallest bowl first. you would remove the small bowl which would have the mounting tenon on it, yes this would allow you to turn a new tenon on the base of the small bowl, in turn allowing you to hollow the bowl with hollow turning cutter/chisel. now you have to turn out the middle bowl, seeing as the original mounting tenon is now missing (as it was on the small bowl) you now have to swap over the 4 jaw chuck for a longworth style plate to turn the tenon on the middle bowl, which is a lot bigger and not everyone has one. so where as before you only had to cut new tenons (working from large to small) you would now (working from small to large) have to swap from the 4 jaw to the face plate. granted its only one small swap over but it does require that you have the longworth chuck to be able to do it that way.
Yes! then use he inside of the area you just cut away to mount the core and hold in place with the tail stock. Turn your tenon or the outside of the socket and the smallest is ready to go follow with the next size.
Or you could use a jam chuck withg the tailstock brought up and cut out the bowl for a tenon on the bottom of the bowl---no longworth needed for this method. Love the idea of the coring out the bowls!!
Checked their website - they want about $400 for these. Way too much $$ for a simple mechanical item. Guess I'll have to wait for harbor freight version.
Nice Demo... On what not to do! 45yrs in Industry I have see some horrendous accidents... Operator - wearing watch, ring and no safety glasses in this case as the operator wears glasses a safety shield would be better... Remember safety first safety always and never wear gloves around turning machines... Yeh! I known Blah! Blah! Blah! I've been doing it for xx yrs without safety... Well guess what your on bored time...
listen carefully to the sudden sound change in the wood carving...well i would if you were not speaking at the same time and putting music too...god damnit
I agree. When I watch these videos I appreciate the noise made when the wood chips come flying off. I do not want Dum Dum Dum. I want to hear what is happening.
Yes, I agree. These so called experts do some crazy things, not thinking that their bad habits are getting picked up by the learner. Wait till the lathe stops before touching the work.
Not true, they can go for $75 to 250 easily. But if you desire the cutting marks these bowls can still be mounted and turned to leave the marks on like classic Norweigan Ale Bowls might be. I know the guy who turns those at our state fair and his smallest command $300 and up. So what was that about no one wanting them?
this really sucks the fun/skill out of it. i feel like people that learned how to woodwork like rembrandt paints would be disgusted that the world has been converted to brainless color by numbers.
But there is 3 to 4 times as much fun when you use a Bowlsaver to make 3 or 4 bowls instead of only 1 from one piece of wood! Besides this, after the Bowlsaver has cored the bowls, you still have to finish them with your gouge. LOTS AND LOTS OF FUN !!!
Actually, if you adore the end product like most of us woodworkers love the organic flow of the grain and the individuality this is a great product because you get multiple bowls out of one burl, as he is working with. Some burls are very rare, far and few between. While the majority of my turning has been tool handles I've made a few bowls and it can be hard on your body. Very tedious clearing out a bunch of waste wood that could be another bowl. Or 3 more bowls. As a result I've stuck more to platters when I do turn wood into a more kitchenlike form.
Both ways are correct - it is a matter of personal choice. My personal choice is to start with the big bowl (partly because it is the most valuable and the most important to save) using a screw chuck. The same screw hole can be used to mount the smaller cores for cutting their chuck spigots prior to coring the smaller bowls. Cheers Peter, Woodcut Tools
Both ways are correct - it is a matter of personal choice.
My personal choice is to start with the big bowl (partly because it is the most valuable and the most important to save) using a screw chuck.
The same screw hole can be used to mount the smaller cores for cutting their chuck spigots prior to coring the smaller bowls.
Cheers
Peter, Woodcut Tools
tks for posting ive just been to a demo and the instructor cut from edge to centre on outside of bowl. i said i thought you worked to the outside .he insisted i was wrong. which is right pse
I'm SOLD!
This thing is badass! Saves time and its effective!
Leave time to do other things. Saves wood makes less waste! :)
at the end : someone got a lot of fun making bowls ^^ ... nice video
This is a great tool for the wood bowl woodturning ,great job, thanks for sharing, new Abo.hier 🤗
Thank you for your feedback
Interesting device, how easy it works. Like!
This looks so much faster then hogging it out with a 5/8th bowl gouge... I was looking at one today, I might consider it sometime.
me gusta esta herramienta, es magnifica
For all the haters of coring systems. If Glenn Lucas uses one. Then its no bad thing
But you can start from the middle and remove the small bowl first.
Many people work this way, but we believe that starting with the big one is best.
Happy NY
lovely art
realy you are doing a great job .i like it
Amigo donde puedo conseguir esa herramienta
Tremendo invento
Love it!
thanks.One of the best coring tools i have seen so far how much and where do I get it???
Hi Garry apologies for the delayed response for a list of distributors please visit our website link here th-cam.com/video/X7KIZ3OJ5Mg/w-d-xo.html
List of distributors here www.woodcut-tools.com/distributors--links.html
oh man ... you're really a wood bowl master LOL
It seems counterproductive to start cutting at the outer edge. Is there a compelling reason the instructions say to start at the outer edge and not core the smaller bowl first?
yep. I was wondering the same thing.
Мне понравилось. Почти без отходов
у меня есть что то похожее по смыслу нарезки сегментов Самоделка на базе тв 16 ..минимум отходов ..Это тоже интересная штука..
i use the exact same one, its about not wasting the timber. i got so sick of most of my timber ending up as shavings on the floor when they could have easily been saved by using this cutter. timber isnt cheap these days and it pays to use it wisely.
Yo los hago muy rústico o artesanal x no tener esa herramienta
Como cuanto cuesta ese accesorio ?
Saludos desde MEXIKO
Hi thank you for your question the Woodcut Bowlsaver is available for US$390 at Packard Woodworks and Amazon.com
Difficult to see the grain with very old, slow growing trees. Huon Pine is such a species and originates in the SW wilderness of Tasmania. There is a log displayed at the entry to the wilderness that is 8-9 feet in diameter and is 3,500 years old! Once finished and oiled the grain pops out and is incredibly beautiful.
And it is not getting any older.
All you people whining. Go turn your bowls by hand. This is a wood saving technique. I'm pretty sure you can finish them up by hand.
donde se puede comprar esa herramienta gracias desde las islas canarias
Does this work better with end grain or side grain blanks?
Hi Larry, thank you for your question. The Woodcut Bowlsaver is designed to core both side and end grain. When coring end grain recommend ensuring the front of the cutter is sharp and to feel your way in terms of lathe speed (but expect to be 500 to 700 rpm), release the shavings as they accumulate. if you require further information please contact us on support@woodcut-tools.com. Best regards Dan
Esse cavador de tigelas é artesanal ou encontro para comprar no Brasil
Hi Marcos, thank you for your message. The Woodcut Bowlsaver is available to purchase online from www.woodcut-tools.com
This system looks like a major pain in the ass, but I'm sure it works well.
I run a self-built coring tool, similar to the HannesTool version, though I have both straight and curved bars.
No special or gated tool rests, no complicated set-up. Just mark your cut points and go to town. I can make near any shape, from straight sided to drastic curves. It also works great as a massive parting tool (I make some big spindles at times).
It may be worth while to offer such a tool in addition to this.
A square?
do you work to outside turning a bowl and then from outside in for the otherside pse
What is the horsepower required to use this jig
Hi Larry, It is feasible to operate the Woodcut Bowlsaver original with a .75 hp Lathe if the wood is green and the front of the cutter is freshly sharpened. if the wood is dense and hard you will need at least 1.5 hp. Please let us know if we can support you further support@woodcut-tools.com. Best regards Dan
is there any reason why you can't do the small bowl first instead of remounting each time ?
Hi, yes it is feasible to turn the small bowl first and not remount each time, if you use a face plate.
Woodcut recommends that a turner starts with the large bowl first from a safety perspective, as it removes the bulk of the wood first.
Thanks, that was my question also.
Good on ya for using NewZealand wood :)
Hello, What Chuck are you using in this video please ?
Muy bueno el dispositivo pero pierde tiempo en centrar de nuevo si empieza desde el centro hacia afuera no desmontaría la pieza principal que le serviría de apoyo para todas las piezas que va a sacar es mi opinión personal
Thank you for the video, I wonder where I can buy this equipment, because I live in Brazil? Alberto Thomaz
Hi, apologies for the delayed response. Please visit our website to review our products and purchase www.woodcut-tools.com/distributors--links.html
We currently don't have a South American based distributor
how thick does the blank need to be, or how think can you cut
Hi Lester, apologies for the delayed response. To get at least one decent sized bowl, we recommend the blank is at least 80 mm.
πολύ ενδιαφέρον Σε ευχαριστώ
Hello, friend, where can I buy a Woodcut Bowlsaver? I thank you for your attention.
Hi, apologies for the delayed response for a list of distributors please visit our website link here th-cam.com/video/X7KIZ3OJ5Mg/w-d-xo.html
List of distributors here www.woodcut-tools.com/distributors--links.html
i want one.
Bellissimo !...dove si compra ?
I just looked up the price for this - no effin way!
Seems bass-akwards... Why not do the smallest and work up to the largest so one does not need to re-chuck over and over.
I was thinking the same thing
if you did it by the smallest bowl first. you would remove the small bowl which would have the mounting tenon on it, yes this would allow you to turn a new tenon on the base of the small bowl, in turn allowing you to hollow the bowl with hollow turning cutter/chisel.
now you have to turn out the middle bowl, seeing as the original mounting tenon is now missing (as it was on the small bowl) you now have to swap over the 4 jaw chuck for a longworth style plate to turn the tenon on the middle bowl, which is a lot bigger and not everyone has one. so where as before you only had to cut new tenons (working from large to small) you would now (working from small to large) have to swap from the 4 jaw to the face plate. granted its only one small swap over but it does require that you have the longworth chuck to be able to do it that way.
Yes! then use he inside of the area you just cut away to mount the core and hold in place with the tail stock. Turn your tenon or the outside of the socket and the smallest is ready to go follow with the next size.
Rick Williams
very good
Or you could use a jam chuck withg the tailstock brought up and cut out the bowl for a tenon on the bottom of the bowl---no longworth needed for this method. Love the idea of the coring out the bowls!!
Checked their website - they want about $400 for these. Way too much $$ for a simple mechanical item. Guess I'll have to wait for harbor freight version.
where can I find/buy a machine like that?
Hi Mario, apologies for the delayed response. For a list of distributors please visit our website here www.woodcut-tools.com/distributors--links.html
Why not cut the small bowl first
Hi Peter, yes it is possible to also cut the small bowl first. In the video we have cut the large bowl first because that is our preference.
hvor købest den jern
hilsen vilrik
Nice but the dam thing cost as much as a lathe.
Nice Demo... On what not to do! 45yrs in Industry I have see some horrendous accidents... Operator - wearing watch, ring and no safety glasses in this case as the operator wears glasses a safety shield would be better... Remember safety first safety always and never wear gloves around turning machines... Yeh! I known Blah! Blah! Blah! I've been doing it for xx yrs without safety... Well guess what your on bored time...
Yes it is amazing what these people get away with in a demonstration.
ok so "woodcut2" what is the reason that you can't start from the inside and work your way out?? p;ease write back.
Nice tool but it should be prohibited to cut down trees of that age. They should be considered as monuments.
why tqvens patrons. ;)
a 1000 year old tree sounds a little suspicious.
bowl, bowl, bowl...
как я здесь оказался?
New Zealand Kauri
listen carefully to the sudden sound change in the wood carving...well i would if you were not speaking at the same time and putting music too...god damnit
I agree. When I watch these videos I appreciate the noise made when the wood chips come flying off. I do not want Dum Dum Dum. I want to hear what is happening.
$400.00 there other duel bowl systems for a better price.
That's fighting talk.
chuck norris cuts wood with his teeth
Don't use the fingers!
Yes, I agree. These so called experts do some crazy things, not thinking that their bad habits are getting picked up by the learner. Wait till the lathe stops before touching the work.
that's useful, but really boring
If it was boring, it would be a drill..
congrats, you have now made 3 boring, plain bowls that noone wants.
Not true, they can go for $75 to 250 easily. But if you desire the cutting marks these bowls can still be mounted and turned to leave the marks on like classic Norweigan Ale Bowls might be. I know the guy who turns those at our state fair and his smallest command $300 and up. So what was that about no one wanting them?
Steven Rose speak for yourself. I think they're beautiful and would love a set.
Instead these bowls are very beautiful and useful! Unfortunately it is true, even here in Italy it is difficult to sell these bowls. Max 30-60 €uro.
this really sucks the fun/skill out of it. i feel like people that learned how to woodwork like rembrandt paints would be disgusted that the world has been converted to brainless color by numbers.
But there is 3 to 4 times as much fun when you use a Bowlsaver to make 3 or 4 bowls instead of only 1 from one piece of wood!
Besides this, after the Bowlsaver has cored the bowls, you still have to finish them with your gouge.
LOTS AND LOTS OF FUN !!!
How else are you going to make multiple bowls out of one piece of wood?
Actually, if you adore the end product like most of us woodworkers love the organic flow of the grain and the individuality this is a great product because you get multiple bowls out of one burl, as he is working with. Some burls are very rare, far and few between. While the majority of my turning has been tool handles I've made a few bowls and it can be hard on your body. Very tedious clearing out a bunch of waste wood that could be another bowl. Or 3 more bowls. As a result I've stuck more to platters when I do turn wood into a more kitchenlike form.
this is cheating.
Both ways are correct - it is a matter of personal choice.
My personal choice is to start with the big bowl (partly because it is the most valuable and the most important to save) using a screw chuck.
The same screw hole can be used to mount the smaller cores for cutting their chuck spigots prior to coring the smaller bowls.
Cheers
Peter, Woodcut Tools