Guru Ilan and Sensei David discuss about how kyokushin fighters punch. - Good stance - Balance - Breathing - Technique - Small surface contact Are some of the daily routines for kyokushin fighters.
I need to start Kyokushin ASAP, this is coming from a guy that did Muay Thai and Boxing for decades! The martial art Kudo looks like a blend of this KyoKushin and Judo
My two main striking styles are Shuri and Muay Thai. I got bored of the "proper way to punch on the street" etc. For those who know, the Shuri styles use a special fist wherein the index and middles finger are made to protrude say as to strike with those knuckles (like the Kyokushin guy is saying). It seems a plausible concept even on the makiwara and does well... until you take it to a significant target ie a heavy bag. As for MT, the gloves hinder a proper straight line punch and people always tend to punch "upwards" and even "slap" with hooks. While in in a border city of Thai and Burma (Myanmar) I saw some bare-knuckle fights between Thais and the Burmese and was astonished and how hard these guys hit (even jabbing) without so much as a hand wrap. I watched their form and noticed how the punches are thrown (elbow up kind of like your leaning on a bar\table-top) and the fist is flat all the way across with the force directed in the middle which actually evens it out across the fist. I took this to the heavy bag and worked on it until it was as a solid as I had seen in the fights. I realized that the Shuri fist is to exaggerated and isn't really a practical concept because fighting is not that intricate, and without gloves, the MT\western boxing punch is prone to bad form. My advice, take the gloves off, abandon the fancy fists and strike a solid HEAVY bag.
Most important striking "style" imho: fist and wrist tight as a brick, forearms flexed like they're in shock, loose elbows, loose shoulders, tucked chin, semi tense abs, loose lats until impact, loose traps. Otherwise a punch is just a punch. Counter points are welcome, as we are all here to learn from eachother.
The 'one or two knuckles' concept is akin to having a pointed, piercing effect like a spear, especially to soft areas. " Hard should strike a soft area. You can take it a step farther using a "phoenix eye fist" (the first finger knuckle) as in Uechi Ryu karate.
As though I see in the Kyokushin Zuki from their sides I've been recently developed an Okinawan Punch from Shorin Ryu Karate as apprehended to be the underrated Okinawan Karate Styles, As though to merge with these type of Uppercut punch or what will be called in the Japanese name were my Biceps did not matters a strengthening forte as my uppercut punch only basically copies by Lennox Lewis or a WingChun variety one, I've technically concerns my weak Bicep response in order to bypass my own standard uppercut systems into the Lennox Lewis's similarities accidentally my muscle strengths were comes from the Triceps as though my straight punch even works with apprehended strong ramming battery charging and a biomechanically reliable than to my uppercut regimen not always reliable unless to trying to configure Lennox Lewis's uppercut science
Is this the reason kyukushin and Thai dont use punches on face? Not to brake hand? Kungfu use mostly open hand hits for the same reason? We see kyokyshin trainers breaking woods and keramics by punching, what about this?
Thai people do punch to thr face because they wear gloves. Kyokushin doesn't punch to the face due to safety and legal reasons in competitions. It is to protect the face, not the knuckles. Historically, they used to punch to the face, but due to injuries, influence of the government and public appearance they decided to remove face punches in competitions.
@@m96920 Enforcing the rule is not about completely removing incidents. It is a sport after all and any sport has a chance of injury. The rule is employed to reduce the frequency of injuries. You could imagine with bare knuckles to the face allowed, the frequency of cuts, broken teeth, torn lips and noses would be higher. This kind of sport was not promotable to the public nor was it approved by the post war japanese government.
Yes, punching bare knuckle to the head can easily damage, and permanently weaken, your knuckles. If you look at a lot of the classical Karate kata that are still close to their Chinese lineage, punches are used sparingly and there is a lot of open hands ( though they often represent forgotten grappling moves). Breaking is more a test of the spirit than conditioning; when I was a child training TKD in Korea back in the '60s, we were introduced to breaking before we started hand conditioning. The conditioning only goes so far because hand injuries usually happen because of how the fist is held upon impact, particularly on an unexpectedly moving target, though one tends to hold the fist improperly when it is in pain as well.
Sorry, bare knuckle punches on the street does not hurt the knuckles, it rarely happens. When will people stop perpetuating this? I mean martial artists??? When intense focus is behind the punch and adrenaline is pumping and the fist is tightened, what you feel when hitting skull, is an impact "pinch" on the knuckles, not much else. You will never find videos of people breaking knuckles, it never happens, it's even rare in boxing called boxer's fracture where the small knuckles get hurt because some boxer's don't know how to punch without the glove (embarrassing). Now especially martial artists doing knuckle pushups and makiwara, oh please, nothing will ever happen to the hands; this is what you should promote, conditioning of knuckles and wrist, not not using the knuckles.
It sounds like you are trying to make an argument against someone but I literally see nothing in the comment section or the video that contradicts anything you say.
Very true. I had to defend myself a couple of times. I punched the attacker in the face on both occasions. Both times apart from a very tiny cut about 2mm there was no damage or injury to my hand. We used to do a lot of push ups on the knuckles and punching pads which all helped.
@@prvtthd401 it's the guy in the video who said he broke his hands punching bare and is now saying it doesn't happen. He is trolling himself. He challenged me to a spar after I tried offering him help. The guy is a menace.
My friend its not Rare Iron Mike Tyson broke his hands when he fought Mitch Green in a street fight try Kyokushin so you know what its like to throw proper bare knuckle punches
This is karate punching, not just kyokushin. Also, the end music blasted out my ears after all that soft talking. Much love guys.
I need to start Kyokushin ASAP, this is coming from a guy that did Muay Thai and Boxing for decades!
The martial art Kudo looks like a blend of this KyoKushin and Judo
My two main striking styles are Shuri and Muay Thai. I got bored of the "proper way to punch on the street" etc. For those who know, the Shuri styles use a special fist wherein the index and middles finger are made to protrude say as to strike with those knuckles (like the Kyokushin guy is saying). It seems a plausible concept even on the makiwara and does well... until you take it to a significant target ie a heavy bag. As for MT, the gloves hinder a proper straight line punch and people always tend to punch "upwards" and even "slap" with hooks. While in in a border city of Thai and Burma (Myanmar) I saw some bare-knuckle fights between Thais and the Burmese and was astonished and how hard these guys hit (even jabbing) without so much as a hand wrap. I watched their form and noticed how the punches are thrown (elbow up kind of like your leaning on a bar\table-top) and the fist is flat all the way across with the force directed in the middle which actually evens it out across the fist. I took this to the heavy bag and worked on it until it was as a solid as I had seen in the fights. I realized that the Shuri fist is to exaggerated and isn't really a practical concept because fighting is not that intricate, and without gloves, the MT\western boxing punch is prone to bad form. My advice, take the gloves off, abandon the fancy fists and strike a solid HEAVY bag.
Above all, "a punch is just a punch." Mr. Bruce Lee
Most important striking "style" imho: fist and wrist tight as a brick, forearms flexed like they're in shock, loose elbows, loose shoulders, tucked chin, semi tense abs, loose lats until impact, loose traps. Otherwise a punch is just a punch. Counter points are welcome, as we are all here to learn from eachother.
The 'one or two knuckles' concept is akin to having a pointed, piercing effect like a spear, especially to soft areas. " Hard should strike a soft area. You can take it a step farther using a "phoenix eye fist" (the first finger knuckle) as in Uechi Ryu karate.
Could you explain more ?
Interesting video, you have a point about the punches.
As though I see in the Kyokushin Zuki from their sides I've been recently developed an Okinawan Punch from Shorin Ryu Karate as apprehended to be the underrated Okinawan Karate Styles,
As though to merge with these type of Uppercut punch or what will be called in the Japanese name were my Biceps did not matters a strengthening forte as my uppercut punch only basically copies by Lennox Lewis or a WingChun variety one,
I've technically concerns my weak Bicep response in order to bypass my own standard uppercut systems into the Lennox Lewis's similarities
accidentally my muscle strengths were comes from the Triceps as though my straight punch even works with apprehended strong ramming battery charging and a biomechanically reliable than to my uppercut regimen not always reliable unless to trying to configure Lennox Lewis's uppercut science
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Is this the reason kyukushin and Thai dont use punches on face? Not to brake hand?
Kungfu use mostly open hand hits for the same reason?
We see kyokyshin trainers breaking woods and keramics by punching, what about this?
Thai people do punch to thr face because they wear gloves. Kyokushin doesn't punch to the face due to safety and legal reasons in competitions. It is to protect the face, not the knuckles. Historically, they used to punch to the face, but due to injuries, influence of the government and public appearance they decided to remove face punches in competitions.
@@prvtthd401 But they allow kicks on the head. Where goes the ''safety'' now?
@@m96920 it's way more difficult to knock someone out with a kick though
@@m96920 Enforcing the rule is not about completely removing incidents. It is a sport after all and any sport has a chance of injury. The rule is employed to reduce the frequency of injuries. You could imagine with bare knuckles to the face allowed, the frequency of cuts, broken teeth, torn lips and noses would be higher. This kind of sport was not promotable to the public nor was it approved by the post war japanese government.
Yes, punching bare knuckle to the head can easily damage, and permanently weaken, your knuckles. If you look at a lot of the classical Karate kata that are still close to their Chinese lineage, punches are used sparingly and there is a lot of open hands ( though they often represent forgotten grappling moves). Breaking is more a test of the spirit than conditioning; when I was a child training TKD in Korea back in the '60s, we were introduced to breaking before we started hand conditioning. The conditioning only goes so far because hand injuries usually happen because of how the fist is held upon impact, particularly on an unexpectedly moving target, though one tends to hold the fist improperly when it is in pain as well.
Sorry, bare knuckle punches on the street does not hurt the knuckles, it rarely happens. When will people stop perpetuating this? I mean martial artists??? When intense focus is behind the punch and adrenaline is pumping and the fist is tightened, what you feel when hitting skull, is an impact "pinch" on the knuckles, not much else. You will never find videos of people breaking knuckles, it never happens, it's even rare in boxing called boxer's fracture where the small knuckles get hurt because some boxer's don't know how to punch without the glove (embarrassing). Now especially martial artists doing knuckle pushups and makiwara, oh please, nothing will ever happen to the hands; this is what you should promote, conditioning of knuckles and wrist, not not using the knuckles.
It sounds like you are trying to make an argument against someone but I literally see nothing in the comment section or the video that contradicts anything you say.
@@prvtthd401 I'm ok with that.
Very true. I had to defend myself a couple of times. I punched the attacker in the face on both occasions. Both times apart from a very tiny cut about 2mm there was no damage or injury to my hand. We used to do a lot of push ups on the knuckles and punching pads which all helped.
@@prvtthd401 it's the guy in the video who said he broke his hands punching bare and is now saying it doesn't happen. He is trolling himself. He challenged me to a spar after I tried offering him help. The guy is a menace.
My friend its not Rare Iron Mike Tyson broke his hands when he fought Mitch Green in a street fight try Kyokushin so you know what its like to throw proper bare knuckle punches