I was a young professional deer culler in the New Zealand Forest Service in the early 1960's. I saved very hard to buy a Sako .270. No scope until I could afford a Nikko 4x40 much later. The best rifle for the job and to this day, in my 70's, I still use a Sako .270.
Had a Sako 75 in 7mm Remington Mag. The best rifle I’ve ever owned. Action was smooth as butter. Flush fitting quick release 5 round magazine. One of the biggest mistakes I’ve ever made as getting rid of it.
My Tikka t3x light in stainless 270 Winchester is awesome, with a Burris Fullfield 4.5 - 14×42mm . Everything I have tried so for in 130 grain as been great. Federal fusion, Norma,Winchester power point all work the same Winchester extreme point shoots a little higher but the bullet shape is more aero dynamic. I feel real comfortable out to 300 yards with a light breeze. The rifle just fits like a glove.
I visited the Sako factory in the 90’s and was shown the machine in which ALL Sako and Tikka barrels were made. I own a Tikka Popular in .30-06 since and do all my hunting with it. Up to 200 meters I get one shot kills, all lying om the spot. Used to have a Sako in .270 Winchester before that. Accuracy was the same, Sako has just a more luxerious finish.
I have that same heavy barrel tikka chambered in .243 Winchester doesn't seem to matter what factory load iput thru it.... it shoots amazing. I'm talking 5 bullets touching at 100 yards, 1/2 inch group. Couldn't be happier with this rifle and highly recommend it.
I have a Sako 75 finlight in 270 WSM and love it. I found a new Sako 75 finlight with a new ss barrel in 280 ai. I is a custom upgrade but all new (new delivery to custom shop that ordered the 280 ai) and they didn't pick it up. Love the rifle! only have 16 rounds down it yet, but working on its final. Love it.
I have a Sako in 25 06 that I absolutely love. The machining precision shows up in the bolt, trigger, extraction, magazine fit. You can tell that they invested a lot of time and money into the build.
I've got a Sako 85 Finnlight in .25-06 and it's a gem! I've had a heck of a time finding ammo for it over the past 6 months though. I've killed a good many deer with Federal Premium 115gr Nosler Partitions, but they are scarce!
Not much difference between the 2 rifles, the sako has an extra lug on the bolt and a metal magazine with a metal trigger guard, that’s basically it, but the price difference is substantial, tikka gets value for money in my humble opinion
I have the Sako 75 hunter in .308 but ive swapped the stock to a black finnlite. Awsome rifle & i reload my own rounds, Iam a Uk stalker but have used this rifle to excellent effect in Sweden on moose with 180gn Sako hammer head factory cartridges!
Nice groups for box bullets. I have 4 Tikkas and with reloads I can put 5 in the same hole at 100m. Have shot 1.5 inch group at 600 yds. It was an exceptional day for me.
Great shooting! Both rifles are awesome. I have a Tikka T3 lite 30-06 and LOVE IT! It’s a deer and elk slayer. Very very comfortable to carry around out there. I’m in my late 60’s so weight matters. I’ll deal with the extra recoil when sighting in before season … after that it’s basically one shot per animal. I’ve never even noticed recoil when taking a shot while hunting. Other things to concentrate on I guess. Thanks for the video.
I worked at a sporting goods store and held both sakos and tikkas everyday, the money is clearly spent on fit and finish and looks and feel, but the barrels are the same and are both free floates, so I went with the tikka t3x and bought a really nice scope and still saved over $700.
Nice. You are right, the bolt, barrel and action come off the same machine. Sako vs Tikka is the same man, one with tailored clothes, the other off the peg.
They are the best rifle in the market in their price range hands down the best! I would know because I have owned hundreds of rifles in the 69 years I have been hunting and collecting
@@Rubeless not out of the realm of possibility at all. 69 years worth of collection, that's like 2 or 3 per year. I'm 26 and have owned over 100 when you factor in trades and upgrades and whatnot.
Sako is more refined and alot more money. Tikka will shoot just as well any day for half the cost. Maybe less than half the price. Depends on the size of one's wallet. If you are looking for straight up value, Tikka is the winner, all day, every day. In fact I'd say Tikka rifles are the absolute best bang for a man's buck that can be had in their price range. In fact you might have to pay 3 times their price to get anything that might out shoot them. Never seen one that wouldn't shoot!!
As a Finnish hunter both a good riffles.You can not find any difference in factory ammo .It depends moore how good you shoot or what kind of optic do you have.Personally i have both in 9.3 x62 Mauser for moose. Two decade back i had 308 Win Tikka Continental but it was little small caliber for moose and still too heavy to walk in forest with dog.I have not tried your caliber yet. Thanks.🇫🇮Ps.Sako s look moore fancier and bling,bling , you know....
Best done on shooting bags front and rear for a proper supported test but think both rifles are very good really down to what brand you prefer to use .
Agree bipods are not the best for accuracy, often get a bounce. I've got a tikka 222 varmint that shoots ragged one holers straight out of the box. 52grn Sierra hpbt and 20 grains 2207.
I always factor in my shooting errors....so you take that, mix it with some factory ammo, and that's still a pretty good piece of shooting and some kill shot groups. I read someone else mention body position, and someone (my Uncle) told me the same thing when I first started. It's just like shooting pool, adjust just your body, before aiming and taking the shot. Good stuff though. I'm excited about my new Tikka.
Hello, I like to shoot with an open sight. Now I'm choosing what to buy. Tell me what to choose? Or is an optical sight better for these rifles? The usual distance for hunting is no more than 300 meters.
I have both sako and tikka i do like a more refined rifle and love my sako’s, both shoot better than 99.995 % of people can manage so no argument from me, i just wished they still made a 204 ruger. i just bought a sako 308w stainless varmint. With my hand loads ELD match it shot a 16 mm 5/8” group at 100 metres, at 200 metres it shot a 26 mm group 1’....... Not bad for a factory gun with no special bedding or tricks.
I have a lovely little sako L461 in 17 Remington cracking little shooter I did have a sako 85 in 3006 got rid of it was disappointed with quality still like the sako and tikka I probably go for tikka now much better value for money
I have Tikka t3x 243 and super accurate on high arctic in extreme winter and it's also accurate on summer time good Hunting rifle for big and small game even for polarbear.
Nice shooting for sure. Nothing wrong with those groups. What type of camera do you use? Just curious. It looks like good quality. I like those tactaCam's too.
Would have to agree on that, to a point. If i have to choose between 2000 Dollar + Tikka and Sako, Sako gives more bang for the buck. Then again in that point we enter to complete different line of rifles anyway what in SAKO specializes in and Tikka doesn't. In the end, they are one and the same company.
Since I have own 3 of each rifle right now and have owned close to s hundred of this brand the Tikka is a great value for the price and will do anything you ask if it and will shoot more factory ammo under an inch in its price range they any other gun in the market Period!
I've talked to many reloaded about my groupings with my sako 85 7mm rem mag with factory ammo. Sometimes I've had flyers like your first left grouping and swear I've made a good shot. These reloaded say it's probably factory ammo as they all get under a dime size grouping at 100m with the right custom load with no flyers. I believe with sako and Tikka your groupings are dependent on the ammo. With that said, my Sako 85 22-250 gets about a 1inch grouping at 300 yards with factory Hornady ammo.
I bought a Tikka Model 695 in 7mm mag, that gun is by far the best shooting gun. My buddy wanted to trade me a Weatherby 7mm mark 8 (I think) even up, oh I rattle canned my gun n scope in olive green too, long story mountain dew n barrel bluing don't mix!!! I told him not a chance, it might be part of the gun , but the confidence I have in that gun allows me to shoot like I know what I'm doing 🤣, I wish Tikka would of never went to the T3 series. I bought 1 thinking it might be as good or better, nope it's close to a model 700 lol. For the money Tikka forsure, u spend at least 300-500 more for a sako. Heads up u find a good condition Tikka M695 buy it immediately!!
There isnt much difference between the 2 rifles, the sako has an extra lug on the bolt and a metal magazine and trigger guard were as the tikka is plastic, the main difference is the cost of around an extra £500 for the sako so value for money goes to the tikka in my opinion
Thanks for this ... curious as to what the camera setup is that you have showing thr impacts as they hit (not the scope cam). Reminded me of those old Pepsi/Coke challenges! No wrong answers as between the two, which didn't preclude passionate arguments !
@@harleyrider883 it doesn’t have the best zoom it was much closer than 100 meters. My old Panasonic hc v770k was better in terms of zooming for hunting.
I shot both rifles in 300 win mag opening day 2020 Montana Elk season. Both are smooth handling. Tikka has 2 problems. The Tikka can NOT top load. Only magazine fed. The magazine froze inside the rifle overnight. The sako AV although being 15years older is clearly a better hunting rifle in my opinion.
Depends on the model. When you get to the high end of each others counterparts, you can't really tell the difference. Since Tikka is SAKO's subdivision, they don't really compete against each others, but Tikka do have lower price range lines than SAKO has. Also Tikka is specializing more to civilian markets where SAKO is specializing more to military markets. For example you can't find 10 000 Dollar sniper rifle from Tikka but you do from SAKO.
If those guns shoot that tight with factory loads at 150 that's about all you can ask for. Good shooting! The only way I've got them to tighten up, was a bull barrel with the Boss system. Even than you have to adjust depending on the manufacturer of the ammo.
I don't think you could go wrong with either. The Tikka is an excellent rife and a far better buy for what they "lack" over a Sako. If money if not a concern- buy what you like.
I know you replied to others about the bullet each rifle shot best but it would have been great to see both results to get an overall picture of their accuracy, especially if these factory offerings are most common. As a SAKO owner myself, i am partial to believe the 85 shot better.
@@Doncorleone44 It is well known or assumed that SAKO and TIKKA use the same barrels but NOT the same actions. They also cannot interchange between stocks.
You being to hard on yourself m8, thats good shooting and good rifles, there is a lot of people would be very happy with these groups from factory rifles and factory ammo
I really don’t like the scope that you have on the Tikka. The cross hairs are much too fine for my liking. I have a Tikka T3X varmint in .223 with a Meopta Meopro 6x42mm. Definitely no complaints from me about the rifle. Very accurate. Greetings from Australia 🇦🇺
Thank you for the video, both guns did great. I would agree the shooter is usually the problem, as these are two very well-built rifles! I saw you shaking quite often which is very normal for people to do! I’ve had many sako rifles in my life, lots of experience shooting them, I can tell you you pay for what you get. In my opinion they are the best rifles ever made, I would never have any other hunting rifle even if I had $1 million I would always buy a Sako rifle!!! I have never had a Teaka but I have heard nothing but good things about them as well. They’re not made from the same factory, and they are a little cheaper built cheaper parts here in there, but I have heard nothing but good things and they are deadly accurate as well. Either one would be great guns and I believe both these companies areheads and tails above every other company there is. However, if you’re willing to spend the extra money I would go with the Sako!!!
@@Vanalos They are not from the same factory, do your research. Tikka‘s are very nice, but they are not even in the same league as Sako, as far as build quality and actions. It’s quite obvious when the price difference is as much as it is. Tikkas are fantastic guns, but they’re not Sakos!!!! Not even close
@@wesleyhobbs9 Research? You mean like the clip from Sako where they tour their factory and show Tikkas being made there? You talk a lot for a guy who didn't even know how to write the name properly.
I have 3 Sako’s and 3 Tikkas and they both shoot amazing! You are correct about the Tikka’s and even though they are a great rifle they are not a Sako! I have owned hundreds of rifles over the 69 years I have been hunting reloading and collecting and Sako is by far the best rifle on the market other then a custom which I have owned many of also!
@@edwardabrams4972 Thank you for the reply and backing me up. It’s always nice to hear from another sako owner with knowledge and experience:) ever since I saw what my fathers rifle could do and was capable of, I have never looked back ! The functionality, the beauty and the mechanics are just simply priceless :-) I’ve never owned a custom rifle, but I’ve had some extremely top-quality rifles and handguns in my time, so I have complete confidence with my opinions. whenever I take my Sako Forrester out to the range or have it out hunting , it always intrigues people and I get lots of questions and compliments. People want to see it and shoot it and see how it performs. No matter what other gun is being shot at the range as far as rifles go, people always seem to be more intrigued with my gun. They are always amazed, when they hear about the amount of wildlife it has taken and the size of the wildlife that it’s has taken! Most seem to never believe a 243 is capable of what my father and I have proved it to be capable of. Sako rifles are truly phenomenal in every sense of the word. They are expensive, but they are well worth the money and the performance, build quality, and beauty, is “second too none” in my opinion!!! The sako 100 rifle that is coming out soon, Has intrigued me and it has caught my interest. I’m nervous about the price though because I know what blaser charges for their system rifle that is very similar! I don’t know that I could ever afford one and I really don’t need one, as I have what I need but I bet it will be a true beauty. Especially the carbon fiber version. Thanks again and enjoy your Sako rifles, as there is nothing like them!!!
This video has brought out a lot of TH-cam critics but I have a FFP on the Sako now so will do a repeat, with both shooting both 32 and 40 grain someday
As far as I know the barrels are the same, produced on the same machines. As the barrel is the last thing the bullet touches before it starts it’s flight there should not really be a difference, and it shows in the shooting. I own a tikka t3x lite in 223, with hand loads and Vmax 40 gr, it’s a 0,5 MOA rifle. Don’t own a Sako. I gues the tikka is probably a bit more plasticy…. But who cares, as long as it does what it needs to do. Nice shooting by the way in not so ideal setup with factory AMO. Was the different AMO tested for each rifle before this test?
You are right. Sakos are basically a premium version which use way more metal (etc metal mags which cost 160€ when tikka plastic mags cost 45€) and a different bolt/reciever design. Sakos fitment with parts are also better, but in terms of raw performance they are pretty identical.
tikka has fine hard to see reticle and sako has chunky reticle - hard to see target. This will have impact on group besides your abilities. Was looking at a used sako 85 sv 20" in .204 to replace a rem 700 20 practical or giving up .204 and going with .223 cz 600 - still undecided. Hence why i am watching. Good work - Thanks Brandon.
@@edwardabrams4972 Hello and thank you for comment. As not sure about a used sako 85 I have ordered a new .223 tikka t2x stainless hb (est 9 months wait) and given up .204
I have a sako 75 in 300 win and a sako 85 in 270 they both cloverleaf when l am on lol but with both of them if you have to hot of a load you are luckily to hight a sheet of plywood cheers
Both have the same barrel , sako is more expensive do to the stock and name . When anyone trying to match any two rifle must use same ammo and grain . Both rifles are great tikka is made with a less expensive stock then sako .there is no real different .
Well, SAKO and Tikka are one and the same company too, they just have different areas where they specialize in, not that it matters to anyone before you mean to invest more than 3000 Dollars to the rifle.
I grew up with Sako rifles here in the states and got spoiled on them. There's lots of great rifles these days but back in the 70's and 80's they were several notches above anything you could get that was made in the USA. I'm proud to shoot a rifle that is made in a country of riflemen and played such a big role in keeping that country free.
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I was a young professional deer culler in the New Zealand Forest Service in the early 1960's. I saved very hard to buy a Sako .270. No scope until I could afford a Nikko 4x40 much later. The best rifle for the job and to this day, in my 70's, I still use a Sako .270.
Its SAKO not Seiko.. SAKO Like taco🙂.. greets from Finland⚔🇫🇮
Lol I know but I learned how I say it and now can’t change it! Nice rifles u guys make over there
It’s not a Watch! sounds like
Saw- co
@@BrandonandStacyHunt which Sako rifle is it exactly?
@@crvenicetg1128 T3X Varmint stainless
@@crvenicetg1128 www.tikka.fi/rifles/tikka-t3x/t3x-varmint-stainless
I have a 35 year old sako AV in 6.5x55 that shoots half moa with Sellier & Bellot 156g soft points , absolutely awesome rifle !
I have a Tikka t3 Hunter in 6.5x55 that shoots half moa or better with hornady superformance 140 sst’s
Had a Sako 75 in 7mm Remington Mag. The best rifle I’ve ever owned. Action was smooth as butter. Flush fitting quick release 5 round magazine. One of the biggest mistakes I’ve ever made as getting rid of it.
I have a Sako 75 in .375. Holding on to it bro.
My Tikka t3x light in stainless 270 Winchester is awesome, with a Burris Fullfield 4.5 - 14×42mm .
Everything I have tried so for in 130 grain as been great.
Federal fusion, Norma,Winchester power point all work the same Winchester extreme point shoots a little higher but the bullet shape is more aero dynamic.
I feel real comfortable out to 300 yards with a light breeze.
The rifle just fits like a glove.
I visited the Sako factory in the 90’s and was shown the machine in which ALL Sako and Tikka barrels were made.
I own a Tikka Popular in .30-06 since and do all my hunting with it. Up to 200 meters I get one shot kills, all lying om the spot.
Used to have a Sako in .270 Winchester before that. Accuracy was the same, Sako has just a more luxerious finish.
I have that same heavy barrel tikka chambered in .243 Winchester doesn't seem to matter what factory load iput thru it.... it shoots amazing. I'm talking 5 bullets touching at 100 yards, 1/2 inch group. Couldn't be happier with this rifle and highly recommend it.
Nice that your test really reflects
Hunting conditions of the bipods.
Good job on the shooting.
I have a Sako 75 finlight in 270 WSM and love it. I found a new Sako 75 finlight with a new ss barrel in 280 ai. I is a custom upgrade but all new (new delivery to custom shop that ordered the 280 ai) and they didn't pick it up. Love the rifle! only have 16 rounds down it yet, but working on its final. Love it.
Just shot my tikka T3X in .243 today for first time. 80gr remingtons were all I tried, but right at an inch at 100.
I have a Sako in 25 06 that I absolutely love. The machining precision shows up in the bolt, trigger, extraction, magazine fit. You can tell that they invested a lot of time and money into the build.
Had same. Hand loaded 0.25 > 0.5*. Beautiful rifle.
I've got a Sako 85 Finnlight in .25-06 and it's a gem! I've had a heck of a time finding ammo for it over the past 6 months though. I've killed a good many deer with Federal Premium 115gr Nosler Partitions, but they are scarce!
Not much difference between the 2 rifles, the sako has an extra lug on the bolt and a metal magazine with a metal trigger guard, that’s basically it, but the price difference is substantial, tikka gets value for money in my humble opinion
I have the Sako 75 hunter in .308 but ive swapped the stock to a black finnlite.
Awsome rifle & i reload my own rounds,
Iam a Uk stalker but have used this rifle to excellent effect in Sweden on moose with 180gn Sako hammer head factory cartridges!
Nice groups for box bullets. I have 4 Tikkas and with reloads I can put 5 in the same hole at 100m. Have shot 1.5 inch group at 600 yds. It was an exceptional day for me.
0.25 MOA 😮😮😮
Pretty hard to call. Both excellent rifles! Great comparison video. Take care
Thanks guys
Both guns are made by Sako and are good ones..
Great shooting! Both rifles are awesome. I have a Tikka T3 lite 30-06 and LOVE IT! It’s a deer and elk slayer. Very very comfortable to carry around out there. I’m in my late 60’s so weight matters. I’ll deal with the extra recoil when sighting in before season … after that it’s basically one shot per animal. I’ve never even noticed recoil when taking a shot while hunting. Other things to concentrate on I guess. Thanks for the video.
I have a Tikka T3 308 cal. Love it but never shot the Sako...sure I'd like it also. Very nice guns.
Both are excellent rifles but I prefer Steyr and Mauser 👌
The Sako is a rifle that you keep for life and pass on to the next generation. Both of them, the
Sako and Tikka are tac shooters.
Great comparison Brandon, both awesome guns. Shoot almost the same. Like u said, u are the variable.🥇👍
Looking at the results, I'd probably buy the Tikka simply bcz shoots the same at half or 1/4 the price of the Sako
I worked at a sporting goods store and held both sakos and tikkas everyday, the money is clearly spent on fit and finish and looks and feel, but the barrels are the same and are both free floates, so I went with the tikka t3x and bought a really nice scope and still saved over $700.
I have three and they are all amazing from 22, 243 and 308. Magic
Nice.
You are right, the bolt, barrel and action come off the same machine.
Sako vs Tikka is the same man, one with tailored clothes, the other off the peg.
Good shooting Brandon. Both nice rifles.
Few rifles feed smoother from the magazine than the Tikka 595/695 or T3/T3X bolt actions.
A Sako does!
@@larrywhite3786 even though the Sako costs way more, they’re about even in smoothness.
I’ve got a Sako A1 223 that I bought new 1992 that’s in mint condition
I’ll never sell it.
My Tikka CTR Scout in .223 will put 3 60 gr VMaxs under a 1/4” center to center. Love my Sakos but for the price the tikka is extremely good value
They are the best rifle in the market in their price range hands down the best! I would know because I have owned hundreds of rifles in the 69 years I have been hunting and collecting
Hundreds of rifles? Exaggerate
@@Rubeless not out of the realm of possibility at all. 69 years worth of collection, that's like 2 or 3 per year. I'm 26 and have owned over 100 when you factor in trades and upgrades and whatnot.
At the end of the day no matter what rifle you have odds sre you'll hit what your pointing at if you do your job
Sako is more refined and alot more money. Tikka will shoot just as well any day for half the cost. Maybe less than half the price. Depends on the size of one's wallet. If you are looking for straight up value, Tikka is the winner, all day, every day. In fact I'd say Tikka rifles are the absolute best bang for a man's buck that can be had in their price range. In fact you might have to pay 3 times their price to get anything that might out shoot them. Never seen one that wouldn't shoot!!
As a Finnish hunter both a good riffles.You can not find any difference in factory ammo .It depends moore how good you shoot or what kind of optic do you have.Personally i have both in 9.3 x62 Mauser for moose. Two decade back i had 308 Win Tikka Continental but it was little small caliber for moose and still too heavy to walk in forest with dog.I have not tried your caliber yet. Thanks.🇫🇮Ps.Sako s look moore fancier and bling,bling , you know....
Wouldn’t the lighter grain bullets drift more in the wind? So you would expect the rifle shooting the lighter ammo not to have as tight of a group?
Not at 150 yards with little wind
Best done on shooting bags front and rear for a proper supported test but think both rifles are very good really down to what brand you prefer to use .
Agree bipods are not the best for accuracy, often get a bounce. I've got a tikka 222 varmint that shoots ragged one holers straight out of the box. 52grn Sierra hpbt and 20 grains 2207.
Thank you 😊
Great video. Like to see more of these shootouts “pun intended” lol. With different manufacturers but same caliber
I always factor in my shooting errors....so you take that, mix it with some factory ammo, and that's still a pretty good piece of shooting and some kill shot groups. I read someone else mention body position, and someone (my Uncle) told me the same thing when I first started. It's just like shooting pool, adjust just your body, before aiming and taking the shot. Good stuff though. I'm excited about my new Tikka.
Thanks for the video! Both rifles are great to shoot..👍
Thanks Jose, my pleasure
I have Tikka T3 223 Rem. and Sako S20 Precission 6.5 Creed. Love them both :)
Hello, I like to shoot with an open sight. Now I'm choosing what to buy. Tell me what to choose? Or is an optical sight better for these rifles? The usual distance for hunting is no more than 300 meters.
Definitely a scope would be much better at 300 yards!
I have both sako and tikka i do like a more refined rifle and love my sako’s, both shoot better than 99.995 % of people can manage so no argument from me, i just wished they still made a 204 ruger.
i just bought a sako 308w stainless varmint.
With my hand loads ELD match it shot a 16 mm 5/8” group at 100 metres, at 200 metres it shot a 26 mm group 1’....... Not bad for a factory gun with no special bedding or tricks.
How’s the recoil between the two? Sako handle it a bit better due to weight or stock design?
Nothing I notice on such a small caliber.
I have a lovely little sako L461 in 17 Remington cracking little shooter I did have a sako 85 in 3006 got rid of it was disappointed with quality still like the sako and tikka I probably go for tikka now much better value for money
I have a Sako 75 in .300 weatherby magnum. My all around hunting rifle.
That’s good shooting and both guns are top notch. I don’t own a Tikka but I have a Sako. 😎😎 best gun I own and I have many
I have Tikka t3x 243 and super accurate on high arctic in extreme winter and it's also accurate on summer time good Hunting rifle for big and small game even for polarbear.
Nice shooting for sure. Nothing wrong with those groups. What type of camera do you use? Just curious. It looks like good quality. I like those tactaCam's too.
Sako & Tikka 🇫🇮👍👌
I have Sako 243 bird rifle and 9.3×62 Tikka Deer rifle🇫🇮👍👌Finns know how to make Good weapons. (Valmet, Tikka and Sako)
Six of one/ half dozen of the other. Both are awesome,very nice 👍
Correct!
Was going for the Tikaa but Cabelas now has the Sako S20 precision on sale $500 off. So botnthat one.
Own both and can say the tikka is best value rifle ever !
Would have to agree on that, to a point. If i have to choose between 2000 Dollar + Tikka and Sako, Sako gives more bang for the buck. Then again in that point we enter to complete different line of rifles anyway what in SAKO specializes in and Tikka doesn't. In the end, they are one and the same company.
Since I have own 3 of each rifle right now and have owned close to s hundred of this brand the Tikka is a great value for the price and will do anything you ask if it and will shoot more factory ammo under an inch in its price range they any other gun in the market Period!
Which tikka bullet you have and what is the telescope use in this video ?
@@carljacob16 I was using 32 grain v max in the Tikka and scope is vortex Diamondback tactical
I've talked to many reloaded about my groupings with my sako 85 7mm rem mag with factory ammo. Sometimes I've had flyers like your first left grouping and swear I've made a good shot. These reloaded say it's probably factory ammo as they all get under a dime size grouping at 100m with the right custom load with no flyers. I believe with sako and Tikka your groupings are dependent on the ammo.
With that said, my Sako 85 22-250 gets about a 1inch grouping at 300 yards with factory Hornady ammo.
I'd say sako has a little bit better clover leaf shap but both will get the job done
I bought a Tikka Model 695 in 7mm mag, that gun is by far the best shooting gun. My buddy wanted to trade me a Weatherby 7mm mark 8 (I think) even up, oh I rattle canned my gun n scope in olive green too, long story mountain dew n barrel bluing don't mix!!! I told him not a chance, it might be part of the gun , but the confidence I have in that gun allows me to shoot like I know what I'm doing 🤣, I wish Tikka would of never went to the T3 series. I bought 1 thinking it might be as good or better, nope it's close to a model 700 lol.
For the money Tikka forsure, u spend at least 300-500 more for a sako. Heads up u find a good condition Tikka M695 buy it immediately!!
If you are doing a head to head, why would you not use the same ammo in both. 40grn in both then the 36grn in both.
Sako shout the 40’s best, tikka preferred the 32’s
Pardon my ignorance. Why different grain bullets?
The Sako shot 40’s better and tikka liked the 32’s
There isnt much difference between the 2 rifles, the sako has an extra lug on the bolt and a metal magazine and trigger guard were as the tikka is plastic, the main difference is the cost of around an extra £500 for the sako so value for money goes to the tikka in my opinion
On the Leupold we gotta leupold😂 thanks for the video
Nice video. Great camera work and editing. Thanks. Just curious, why did you use different ammo in each gun? Are the barrels the same rate of twist?
Same twist but the Sako shoots 40 gr best and Tikka 32 best
The video's title is a bit misleading, since both are SAKO manufactured rifles.
Tikka is just one of their brands / rifle families.
Not really, kinda like saying Camaro vs Corvette who will win? I never said they were different manufacturers. But…. They are two different entities.
Mission impossible? Great camera work!
Thanks for this ... curious as to what the camera setup is that you have showing thr impacts as they hit (not the scope cam). Reminded me of those old Pepsi/Coke challenges! No wrong answers as between the two, which didn't preclude passionate arguments !
Thats a Sony FDR ax700
@@BrandonandStacyHunt Thanks! Have you tried it out further than 100m?
@@harleyrider883 it doesn’t have the best zoom it was much closer than 100 meters. My old Panasonic hc v770k was better in terms of zooming for hunting.
@@BrandonandStacyHunt Thanks! Always looking for something cheapish and easy to help me spot and record at distance. Happy hunting!
@@harleyrider883 yup the Panasonic was good for that but it crapped out on us after a few years.
I shot both rifles in 300 win mag opening day 2020 Montana Elk season. Both are smooth handling. Tikka has 2 problems. The Tikka can NOT top load. Only magazine fed. The magazine froze inside the rifle overnight. The sako AV although being 15years older is clearly a better hunting rifle in my opinion.
Did you miss 3 times🤣 if your magazine froze, good chance your bolt will too
So the Tikka is just a slightly lower quality version of the Sako?
Tikka has a Sako barrel is my understanding with less frills.
Depends on the model. When you get to the high end of each others counterparts, you can't really tell the difference. Since Tikka is SAKO's subdivision, they don't really compete against each others, but Tikka do have lower price range lines than SAKO has.
Also Tikka is specializing more to civilian markets where SAKO is specializing more to military markets.
For example you can't find 10 000 Dollar sniper rifle from Tikka but you do from SAKO.
Good shooting !!
If those guns shoot that tight with factory loads at 150 that's about all you can ask for. Good shooting! The only way I've got them to tighten up, was a bull barrel with the Boss system. Even than you have to adjust depending on the manufacturer of the ammo.
Both Capable of shooting better not my best day!
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I don't think you could go wrong with either. The Tikka is an excellent rife and a far better buy for what they "lack" over a Sako. If money if not a concern- buy what you like.
I know you replied to others about the bullet each rifle shot best but it would have been great to see both results to get an overall picture of their accuracy, especially if these factory offerings are most common.
As a SAKO owner myself, i am partial to believe the 85 shot better.
Think in the future I’ll shoot both out of each rifle to see where we are at
Both barrels and and actions are the same so in reality this is very doubtful
@@Doncorleone44 It is well known or assumed that SAKO and TIKKA use the same barrels but NOT the same actions. They also cannot interchange between stocks.
You being to hard on yourself m8, thats good shooting and good rifles, there is a lot of people would be very happy with these groups from factory rifles and factory ammo
Thanks Rob
I really don’t like the scope that you have on the Tikka. The cross hairs are much too fine for my liking. I have a Tikka T3X varmint in .223 with a Meopta Meopro 6x42mm. Definitely no complaints from me about the rifle. Very accurate. Greetings from Australia 🇦🇺
Thank you for the video, both guns did great. I would agree the shooter is usually the problem, as these are two very well-built rifles! I saw you shaking quite often which is very normal for people to do! I’ve had many sako rifles in my life, lots of experience shooting them, I can tell you you pay for what you get. In my opinion they are the best rifles ever made, I would never have any other hunting rifle even if I had $1 million I would always buy a Sako rifle!!! I have never had a Teaka but I have heard nothing but good things about them as well. They’re not made from the same factory, and they are a little cheaper built cheaper parts here in there, but I have heard nothing but good things and they are deadly accurate as well. Either one would be great guns and I believe both these companies areheads and tails above every other company there is. However, if you’re willing to spend the extra money I would go with the Sako!!!
They are from the same factory and it's Tikka.
@@Vanalos They are not from the same factory, do your research. Tikka‘s are very nice, but they are not even in the same league as Sako, as far as build quality and actions. It’s quite obvious when the price difference is as much as it is. Tikkas are fantastic guns, but they’re not Sakos!!!! Not even close
@@wesleyhobbs9 Research? You mean like the clip from Sako where they tour their factory and show Tikkas being made there? You talk a lot for a guy who didn't even know how to write the name properly.
I have 3 Sako’s and 3 Tikkas and they both shoot amazing! You are correct about the Tikka’s and even though they are a great rifle they are not a Sako! I have owned hundreds of rifles over the 69 years I have been hunting reloading and collecting and Sako is by far the best rifle on the market other then a custom which I have owned many of also!
@@edwardabrams4972 Thank you for the reply and backing me up. It’s always nice to hear from another sako owner with knowledge and experience:) ever since I saw what my fathers rifle could do and was capable of, I have never looked back ! The functionality, the beauty and the mechanics are just simply priceless :-) I’ve never owned a custom rifle, but I’ve had some extremely top-quality rifles and handguns in my time, so I have complete confidence with my opinions. whenever I take my Sako Forrester out to the range or have it out hunting , it always intrigues people and I get lots of questions and compliments. People want to see it and shoot it and see how it performs. No matter what other gun is being shot at the range as far as rifles go, people always seem to be more intrigued with my gun. They are always amazed, when they hear about the amount of wildlife it has taken and the size of the wildlife that it’s has taken! Most seem to never believe a 243 is capable of what my father and I have proved it to be capable of. Sako rifles are truly phenomenal in every sense of the word. They are expensive, but they are well worth the money and the performance, build quality, and beauty, is “second too none” in my opinion!!! The sako 100 rifle that is coming out soon, Has intrigued me and it has caught my interest. I’m nervous about the price though because I know what blaser charges for their system rifle that is very similar! I don’t know that I could ever afford one and I really don’t need one, as I have what I need but I bet it will be a true beauty. Especially the carbon fiber version. Thanks again and enjoy your Sako rifles, as there is nothing like them!!!
I think the thinner crosshairs on the tikka was the difference. I truely feel they are more closely matched
This video has brought out a lot of TH-cam critics but I have a FFP on the Sako now so will do a repeat, with both shooting both 32 and 40 grain someday
Good stuff as always.
Thanks Steve
I have Tikka t3x varmint .243win and Sako Kodiak .375H&H mag. ❤️ And i wanna bought some old Sako or Tikka .222rem and tikka t1x .17hmr.
Where did you get that bolt handle on your tikka? I want that for my 22-250
In Canada so here.
www.coretacsolutions.com/products_TIKKA_performance_center.htm
@@BrandonandStacyHunt thanks!
@@d-railfpv9315 np. If you’re in states could try here
tikkaperformance.com/product/tikka-t3-t3x-bolt-handles/
I'm in canada, live in the east Kootenays bc
@@d-railfpv9315 right I knew that!
Nice. But if different ammunition was used. Not really head to head. But I do like Sako rifles more.
Sub MOA with a hunting scope, OEM stock and factory ammo is more than respectable.
Wasn't he shooting 150 yards? If so I think he had at least one group make sub moa.
As far as I know the barrels are the same, produced on the same machines. As the barrel is the last thing the bullet touches before it starts it’s flight there should not really be a difference, and it shows in the shooting. I own a tikka t3x lite in 223, with hand loads and Vmax 40 gr, it’s a 0,5 MOA rifle. Don’t own a Sako. I gues the tikka is probably a bit more plasticy…. But who cares, as long as it does what it needs to do. Nice shooting by the way in not so ideal setup with factory AMO. Was the different AMO tested for each rifle before this test?
You are right. Sakos are basically a premium version which use way more metal (etc metal mags which cost 160€ when tikka plastic mags cost 45€) and a different bolt/reciever design. Sakos fitment with parts are also better, but in terms of raw performance they are pretty identical.
Yes the Tikka liked the 32’s and Sako liked the 40’s
Why did you restrict yourself to only using 10x magnification?
10x is more than enough. Most of the time even to much for hunting.
Not using the same ammo?
Same calibre however the different ammo/grains throws variables into question. Not really an even comparison...?
God to see your video mister . But please put the rifle on vise or something to reduce the rifle flitch . Bravo
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tikka has fine hard to see reticle and sako has chunky reticle - hard to see target. This will have impact on group besides your abilities. Was looking at a used sako 85 sv 20" in .204 to replace a rem 700 20 practical or giving up .204 and going with .223 cz 600 - still undecided. Hence why i am watching. Good work - Thanks Brandon.
Yes Tikka scope FFP Sako is SFP
Get the Tikka’s NEVER a mistake! I have owned Remington rifles and they used to be my favorite but there is no comparison with a Tikka or Sako rifle
@@edwardabrams4972 Hello and thank you for comment. As not sure about a used sako 85 I have ordered a new .223 tikka t2x stainless hb (est 9 months wait) and given up .204
I have a sako 75 in 300 win and a sako 85 in 270 they both cloverleaf when l am on lol but with both of them if you have to hot of a load you are luckily to hight a sheet of plywood cheers
Both have the same barrel , sako is more expensive do to the stock and name .
When anyone trying to match any two rifle must use same ammo and grain .
Both rifles are great tikka is made with a less expensive stock then sako .there is no real different .
can someone tell me exactly which two guns are involved here?
www.sako.fi/rifles/sako-85/85-varmint-stainless
www.tikka.fi/rifles/tikka-t3x/t3x-varmint-stainless
Thank you
They shoot as good as the Springfield Waypoint at 1/2 the price. There is no better deal than these two rifles.
What bipod did you choose?
Utg recon 360
hajde malo analitičkog osvrta i na dalekometne kalibre,za početak 6,5 x 47mm,bicemo Vam zahvalni,lep pozdrav
You need a finer reticle on that Sako to make a good comparison
Going to repeat with FFP on both guns and shoot both 32’s and 40’s in both
I have a tika 308 a1 tac with a arcon ep5 scope a wildcat mod and bipod love it and half cost of a sako
Like what you said "most rifles shoot better than the shooters capabilities".
Brother which caliber are they
204 Ruger
Thanks brother
It all comes down to personal choice. And how much you can afford $$$
Would test with a scope that has higher magnification... cannot realise best accuracy when your optics limmit you
I have a Sako a7 roughtek pro
308w its shoots lika a Laser
Nice rifles!!!!
So what caliber was the Tikka>??
204
Need to shoot same ammo
Both rifles made in the same factory ..same barrels..
Well, SAKO and Tikka are one and the same company too, they just have different areas where they specialize in, not that it matters to anyone before you mean to invest more than 3000 Dollars to the rifle.
yep! You have most finland finest rifle you hand.
I grew up with Sako rifles here in the states and got spoiled on them. There's lots of great rifles these days but back in the 70's and 80's they were several notches above anything you could get that was made in the USA. I'm proud to shoot a rifle that is made in a country of riflemen and played such a big role in keeping that country free.
Thats true!