Boise State beat UNLV who beat Kansas and Houston, two BIG 12 Teams, on the road. Boise State beat Washington State who beat Texas Tech, a BIG 12 school. Boise State and BYU were in a conference together for a really long time before BYU got to the BIG 12 and during that time it was Boise state that had the better head to head record against BYU. There is no gap between the Boise State program and BYU. IF anything, it’s Boise State that’s been the better program the last 25 years. It’s really sad to see all the BIG 12 talking heads now try to take shots at Boise State, a program that has literally been the definition of underdogs it’s entire existence. It’s not Boise State’s fault that we live in a POWER 2 era and that most people outside of BIG 12 country don’t think the BIG 12 Is a good conference. If you want to change how people view the BIG 12 conference then don’t have teams get murdered 65-7 in national championship games. When your conference champ loses 65-7 in a national championship game to an SEC school then your conference is closer to the group of 5 then it is to the SEC. BIG 12 if you want respect then focus on actually winning playoff games, bowl games, and big non con games. This punching down trying to trash Boise State ain’t it. This is the whining that turns people not in BIG 12 country off from BIG 12 football. I’m an ASU alum saying this.
Boise State strength of schedule is truly weak. CFP committee is only ranking them higher because they have a heisman candidate. If they played any of the top 4 big 12 teams they would lose. Seems questionable they could get a bye while a Big 12 champ with two losses would have to play Ohio State as the 12 seed.
@ ummmm no they would beat any of those teams ask BYU Boise state owns them and I know you want the big 12 to be good but big 12 hasn’t been good since the real teams left…Oklahoma,Texas Nebraska, Texas A&M those are the teams that built the “big 12”. This big 12 is another Mountain west non power 5 conference
Couz are you telling me that you are just now realizing that the media looks at just one player on teams??? It has been going on for a very long time. It is rediculous because football is a TEAM Sport. It is not golf. But this has been going on for a very long time.
This video isn’t about the media. It’s about the college football playoff committee. It’s a group of A.D.’s and executives that should not be looking at just one player.
The main argument for Boise is that their only loss is to the #1 team by a small margin. This is not even a discussion if Boise lost to Oregon by 40. The difference between a 1 loss Boise and a 2 loss B12 will be razor thin. The B12 teams have some good wins that Boise does not have, some of them also have bad losses that Boise does not have. It will be interesting to track.
@@CouzsCornerSports BYU fans are coming to Boise's defense about how tough it is to play in Wyoming this time of the year. They have played Wyoming for over 100 years, and the winter time this time of the year does go against the opposing team.
The Big 12 wasn’t complaining at the start of things when the rules were put in place. Because, I’m sure they believed there wasn’t a chance they wouldn’t get a bye. Not that there’s no clear Plath. The Big-12 is crying about it. How come these team didn’t do a home and home with Wyoming. Because, nobody wants to play Wyoming in Laramie in late November.
The Big12 needs to get into the CFP & win games. The rest of the schools need to destroy teams in their bowl games to get people talking about the Big12. Get to them to see the Big12 is better than they thought. If they can win convincing against other conferences, maybe it can earn some respect going into next season. The Big12 needs to go into the bowl season with a chip on their shoulders & run up as many scores as they can. MAKE A STATEMENT!
UNLV did that with wins over Kansas and Houston. Boise State beats UNLV, UNLV beat Kansas and Houston, Kansas beat Iowa State, BYU and Colorado. There is no discussion that Boise State should be ranked higher than the Big 12 teams. There is talk that Tulane should be ranked ahead of the Big 12 because they lost to 3 to Kansas, and lost to Oklahoma by 14, and Oklahoma smoked Alabama.
College football never ceases to amaze me. Can you imagine if the NFL was ran like this? A beauty padjent with what the network wants to see. This hole CFP perception is almost becoming a joke of sorts. I am hoping someone with comin sense will make some unbiased decisions going forward.
First everyone in here smash the like button COUZ does some of the best content on TH-cam for college football and I’m not even a big or West Virginia guy Totally agree, couz
@@RockandRant1 by the way, what do you think about the Canes’ OC Shannon Dawson? I think he could be an under the radar HC candidate for a program at some point.
@couzscornersports I think he is a very good but not necessarily elite OC. He got a lot of crap last year, but that was all about not having a quarterback and this year. I think he’s not getting enough credit because Cam Ward is so special but if you watch the all 22 videos they get out there. There are many times where wide receivers are schemed completely open. The cam choose it to go somewhere else or misses them entirely in a lot of places that are not just about ward freestyle doing crazy things. I’m torn whether I think he or Lashley was the better offensive coordinator over the last 20 years for Miami but I do think lash stuff was very simple and very predictable and I think Dawson‘s play calling this year even with the magic of ward has been pretty remarkable. Some Miami fans might not want to admit it because of the yo-yo of the two years, but I would be bummed that he left but kind of already assumed that he might.
It's not what you think. It has to do with money. If by chance Boise State wins their conference championship, they would be hosting a game in a much smaller stadium. By giving them a bye. Boise State doesn't get to host a game. It's about money. I think at most the stadium at Boise State holds 36,000 people where as a fiesta bowl can hold 100,000 people. I know it doesn't seem fair but I think the rash now from the cfp is it's about money. But don't put the broncos down.
Not if Boise St gets a bye. They will most likely play in the Fiesta Bowl. Someone from the Fiesta Bowl conmitee said it just makes since from a Regional perspective.If Boise St wins out they will be either the 4th or 12th seed.
That’s an interesting angle I had not considered. I really hope that’s not a reason for voting the way they did. My intention isn’t to put Boise down but to compare resumes. BSU is a good team and deserves a CFP spot.
Preach to me... I'm a Tech Grad and fan of all Tech sports. But I love the way you break down football! Boise State wouldn't even be considered for a bowl game if they were in the BIGXII.
That is what they said when Boise State Joined the Big West (dominated). That's what they said when We joined the Mountain West (dominated). Our History Is strong so Invite us then we can dominate your Conference as well.
No one seems to understand Boise State typically beats those big 12 teams. And they also play up or down to their opponents. BSU can hang in there with any team in the top 10.
He relates the Wyoming game but forgets about UNLV beating the crap out of Houston and beating Kansas. Boise State beat UNLV Oh and Kansas beat Colorado. Houston beat Iowa state. By transitive property BOISE STATE IS BETTER THAN EVERY BIG 12 team. If your best argument is that Boise won a game tight that was on the road in late November. Then your argument holds very little weight. By the way I am not the transitive property type but since that is your metric that is what I am using to show you Boise State has the better resume. Also, lets just wait and watch the games first because Boise State is going to have some trouble with Oregon State and UNLV. These are Two HOT teams right now. Oregon State is just like Kansas. Oregon State has everyone back on their team from injury now. If Boise State beats both of those teams they deserve a 1st round bye. VERY Difficult task in front of them especially because Boise state is missing 5 starters.
When UNLV beat Kansas who beat Iowa State, Colorado and BYU, and get smoked by Boise State tells you that Boise gets more respect. Boise beat two top 25 teams in UNLV and Washington State and came close to beating Oregon. When your top teams getting beat a Kansas team that was below 500 in wins? Than you are in trouble and could lose the 5th champions spot if Arizona State, Colorado, BYU and Iowa State loses again. Tulane could sneak in and take that spot.
All I say is that you don't look at the whole picture when it comes to conference game. Whether your second through last place in the conference they are always going to the top team as their championship game. No matter what conference your in. Case in point Colorado was the odds on pick to win over the Jayhawks, but the Jayhawks played with nothing to loose. Same goes for ASU over BYU. Then you have to look at the team and venue in case with Wyoming high altitude and also playing in November not an easy task to do. Finally the game is played on the field not on paper so the record shows Boise state as 9-1 which is better than 9-2 or 8-3. Also a reminder Boise State has a good track record of knocking of the high a might. So I would say that Boise State deserves the respect that the committee is giving them. Let the game be played on the field and the chip will land where they may.
It's simple to me. BYU, Kansas State, Iowa State, and Iowa State were all warned about what bad losses could do. The same way the 2 loss SEC teams were warned along with Texas. The same for Indiana, Penn State, Notre Dame, Army, Miami and Clemson. BYU and Colorado controlled their destiny until they lost. And that applies to just about every other team who hasn't already earned the benefit of the doubt.
I am an Ohio State fan. Alabama should not get the benefit of the doubt with 3 losses, 2 to unranked teams. OSU hasn't lost to a unranked team since 2018. Alabama and Ole Miss got to be out of there period.
Off topic Couz, Princeton will hammer North Marion then probably Hoover as well (they just beat us by 7). I want to see Princeton vs Bridgeport and will if Indy makes it there too.
Well no duh!!! Boise St doesn't play in a P4 Conference. They have played WSU and will play Oregon St. You have to be delusional if you think a G5 school needs to schedule a P4 team for every Non Conference game. Also, games are scheduled years in advance.
I think im placing a bet on baylor winning the conference championship. Not convinced that the big 12 is a power 4 team other than in name. Hay stop finding ways to loose
I bet the committee is just hoping Boise State will loose either against Oregon State or UNLV. Boise states play in their last 4 games have revealed a lot of vulnerabilities. They haven’t been that great. I don’t think they’ll make it to the playoffs so this whole argument will be moot
SOS and Style points dont matter in the group of 5. Our rules is this: The highest ranked group of 5 is in. Why? We have to beat out 5 confrences while the Big 12 only has to win 1. If you don't like those rules than let Big12 teams move to a group of 5 confrence. The time to fight the rules is before the season starts not at the end of the season because your teams don't make it. The other point is that there is a good chance that UNLV beats BSU in the MWC Championship game. If that happens than this dispute is null and void. BSU beat Wash St that was ranked and UNLV and if they beat UNLV again that would beat 3 ranked teams, they lost to the number one team in the country in the last second of the game. When Texas and Oklahoma left you lost your power status.
Dude a big 12 team from last year is at the top of the sec, Oklahoma just beat Alabama, these guys follow this retoric just to get a leg up and the inside track to a cfp
Boise state football historically has been at minimum comparable if not dominant of big 12 teams, how about losing the hate and sending the invite i bet BSU would not join the maybe pac12 over the big 12
The only way to fix the controversies is to give every conference champion an automatic bid into the CFP. Then it becomes simple... In order to get into the playoffs you have to win your conference championship. Rankings become immaterial. If you're not a champion you don't deserve to be in the playoffs. I get so tired of hearing that the SEC is so much better than the rest of the nation. Well, put your money where your mouth is SEC. Instead of trying to set up your own little club game and calling it a national championship, how about you actually beat the other champions. Here's the premium example: 2008-2009. Y'all refused to give Utah a chance at the championship when they were undefeated with a strong schedule. End result... the only undefeated team that year was Utah because your number two beat your number one. Now mind you, I am not a Utah fan. I've been a BYU fan since I was 10, and a Boise State fan since I served with the 116 CAV boys in Iraq in 2004. But fair is fair. All 12 positions in the cfp should come from conference champions. If you choke and can't beat your in conference competition, you don't deserve to be in the CFP.
@tarheel7406 Maybe.... but if K State, Utah, Oke State, Kansas, or Arizona would've been pretty good this year, they'd easily be top 10. If WVU was 9-2 right now. They'd be top 10. The issue you're saying needs to be something the ACC worries about as well. Because what it looks like is I'd Wake Forest and Syracuse were 9-2. They'd be on the outside looking in. And worst case scenario for the ACC is if SMU Wins. Miami loses a second game. Then Clemson wins the conference title. And you may be looking at Boise in the 3 spot over 2 P4 champions. All because they lost by 3 to Oregon. It's something wrong with that metric. I get the brand argument. Even though it's nonsense on the field. But this whole thing is gonna bite someone in the rear. And it's only gonna hurt the Big 12 a d ACC. Perspective....... A G5 school losing to a Big 10 school by 3 is so much more valuable than the Big and ACC. That playing one game against the supposed P2 erases the fact that you play a G5 schedule. And leaps you over P4 champions, not in those two conferences. That is a major problem. Let me say that again. Because this is not about whose better between the ACC or Big 12. A lose to a top Big 10 or SEC school is so valuable. It lifts a G5 schools G5 schedule above P4 champions. If you don't understand. That means it doesn't matter what brands yiu think you have in yiur conference. If you don't have a patch from those conferences. You better not have more than 1 loss. Or you'll get left out possibly. Um..... that means horrible things for the next version of this CFP and beyond. And long-term. Fans have 5-10 years and the break off will be official. You don't do things like that, sending those statements if you have any intentions of letting anyone, but those 2 conferences play Big Boy football. The ax is coming.
I should already know, but is the concern that BOISE may cover the requirement for one of the top 4 conference champions ~and~ the G5 slot? Which would push out the BIG12 champ and create space for (likely) another SEC team?
@@tarheel7406 not exactly. I'm sure he talks about it, but I'm just starting it. It's the top 5 conference champs period and with the chaos last weekend the Big 12 champ is in. It's the bye week that is a concern, but A&M is still alive for the SEC championship so everything now is just moot because A&M could win the SEC and then the question would be should they get a bye or not as a 3 loss champ.
@@tarheel7406 true, but ND doesn't have to play a conference championship game either so they kind of have a built in bye. I will say this year would probably suck to be the 12th seed because you'll likely play the B1G runner up in the 1st round. So instead of 2 weeks to prepare you'll only get 1.
Because that 1 loss was to the #1 team in the country vs 2 losses vs ..........some ranked and some unranked teams. Sorry a loss to Nebraska isn't pushing the needle. Yes Boise had their worst game against Wyoming, some weeks be like that there is even a term coined for those type of games "trap games". But they found a way to win even though Jeanty got dinged up again and missed some drives and was less effective than usual, in fact the backup was the one that scored the game winning touchdown. Now I would also agree that several 2 loss B12 teams have better wins than Boise. So it seems to come down to better wins vs worse losses.
Does it matter if ASU gets the bye. They’d pay Oregon or Ohio State either way. BYU lost against an unranked team with a loosing record. The panel has dropped ranked teams loosing unranked teams by 8-9 rankings. Ranked vs ranked by a 4-5 rank drop. Top 4 loss to top 4, a 2-3 rank drop. They have been consistent in this. Let’s not forgot that UNLV beat Kansas. Who lost to Boise State. Who did Iowa State, BYU and Colorado lose to?
Wrong ! Boise beat two teams that were ranked currently at the time that they played one of which is still currently ranked and they will have a rematch with in the mountain championship . Cuz stop, hating bro it’s not a good look for you.
Boise\Tulane vs Big XII... too funny since neither of those have played as many Power 4 games as the Big XII teams. Strength of Season? Head-to-Head, etc. Big XII may need to go to 8 conference games and play some cushy games like ACC/SEC, so we can get that extra win? Also Big XII 100% needs their own true Tier 1 Media Partner. FOX has been ok with BIg XII but ESECPN has clearly treated the XII like the mistress.
Then the rules need to be changed to be skewed towards the P4 schools. Make it so that the bye rounds can only go to the four P4 conference champions, regardless of their record. The CFP is mainly for P4 conferences anyway. Then highest ranked P4 runner-ups get 5 thru 8 positions, then the highest ranked G6 school is automatically in at the 9 spot. Then just fill in the rest of the field with whomever, to get to 12. The split is coming between the P4 and G6. The G6 can then come up with their own playoff system to crown their own champion. A P4 champion, a G6 champion. Fair for everyone that way.
the better question is this. had Oregon missed that field goal would an undefeated Boise be the #1 team in the country with Oregon as a 1 loss team? Its all subjective BS. Boise is a distraction. The goal after last year was to break up the ACC and the Big 12. They failed. Boise is the way to Break up one of those as the season ends. What better way to create a "sinking ship". Snub either the big 12 or ACC and we get to hear expansion rumors all over again.
Final Four Appearances, 1st Rd Wins, Nattys (per Wiki 2015-2024. 2020 N/A) ACC: 9-5-3 B12: 5-3-2 (Excludes OK; includes Houston) BIGEAST: 6-4-4 SEC: 5-0-0 (Includes OK) B1G: 7-3-0 (Includes Oregon & UCLA) ACC - Appeared in 7 of 9 Final Fours (6 different teams) BE - Appeared in 5 of 9 Final Fours (2 different teams) B12 - Appeared in 4 of 9 Final Fours (4 different teams)
Say ASU wins out vs Arizona and whatever ranked opponent in the Big12 title game. 3 of their last 4 wins win be against ranked opponents when they played them. Boise? Zero. ASU will jump them in the playoff rankings. Byu, Iowa st will do the same. Big 12 will get the 4 spot.
Only team that I can see jumping Boise St is ASU. If Boise St wins out and faces and beats UNLV, in the MWCCG, if ASU hasn't jumped Boise St. prior to Conference Championships, ASU isn't jumping Boise St. The MWCCG will have 2 ranked teams playing. ASU needs to jump Boise St next week. Neither BYU nor ISU will jump Boise St.
Just to help you see the rest of the picture here. The remaining of Boise state and AZ states schedules are basically the same. Boise plays a 5-6 Oregon state then a ranked UNLV in the conference championship, AZ state plays a 4-7 AZ then a TBD team ranked similar to UNLV in the conferences championship game. With as much of a gap behind Boise AZ state is there is no realistic chance they get past Boise for the #4 seed as long as both Boise and AZ state wins out. Sorry to burst the Big 12 bubble but it just won’t happen.
So, over this argument people make, "because" we have parity that automatically beats us. No offense, Arizona State barely beat Mississippi State (2-10), barely beat Texas State (6-6 an average team), Boise State beat Washington State, who beat Texas Tech who dominated Arizona State. Now lets look at BYU they barely beat SMU (who u claimed is a quality win), that same SMU team barely beat Nevada, now to be fair with SMU, BYU beat an SMU team that changed QBs and looks miles better. BYU should have lost to Utah in a game that saw many many controversial calls go against Utah (and I know you're excuse will be they have injuries), not to mention BYU struggled AT HOME to a bad Oklahoma State team. Iowa State lost to Texas Tech, who lost to Washington State who got dominated by Boise State. Your arguments fall flat when you're not consistent in your approach. You can't acknowledge close wins by Boise State as faults, and then deflect on the bad close wins for the Big 12.
You make fair arguments. At the end of the day, the Big 12 overall is a stronger conference than the MWC. So, unless their champion has 2 more losses than BSU, they should get the bye. That being said, I do think BSU is capable of beating P4 teams in the CFP. They are a good team.
They didn't just start this because of they playoffs.. you might not be opd enough lol to remember.. WV has always be done like they did BYU in dropping in rankings.. ww was dropped when our only lose to a pitt game years ago as a Big East team orca Miami game went something like a number 1 or 2 to out of or at a top 10 with a one game lose .. Don N. Days we were undefeated and was kept out of national championship Don was on fire .. this is not the first time fir this crap .. Sec and espen than big 10 has always controlled what and who git in what ... They controlled the money .. the Vegas people has always controlled the system to .. no disrespect at all against you look what your show is now it's ran buy who pays you as a sponsor with bet system.. you get your info or have given your info through bet world like your stats .. the industry has destroyed teams for years.. its just now getting out of control.. college is being turned into a minor nfl league , or has been...
@@backwoods7678 the only info I get from BetUS are the betting lines. That’s it. But, I get your point and it’s fair. The people who control the money control the sport.
Once again tv money controls everything in sports which is getting tiresome. Tv wants Boise because they believe the RB will get more views. Sad but true. Same reason WV girls basketball got cheated against Iowa lat year in the tournament with the bogus whistle against us in last few minutes. Garbage but reality. Sports are not the same with money at stake. Always about the money.
Boise State is not a playoff team. Not because they're in the MWC. But because they are really subpar against bad MWC teams. The ACC has some really bad teams this. But they are still P4. It's really kinda offensive for the MWC conference to be compared to any P4 conference. But there's something deeper going on here. Boise getting credit for playoff a Big 10 or SEC team close. That's saying even playing a higher end school in those conferences is worth more than a total conference record in the other P4 conferences. Which is obviously setting up this P2 scheduling alliance. Further diminishing the value of the other P4 conferences to a degree too far. Way too far. But i do believe had the preseason favorites performed. This wouldn't be a topic to discuss. So there's that issue. I'm not sure what to do with that. Either way...... Private Equity is obviously needed. And this does kinda setup a final week Big 12 Playoff.
Boise plays no one, but the media loves them for some reason. I watched them over the weekend and they were lucky to get past.a 2-9 Wyoming team that looked awful....
Boise beat a rank UNLV team that beat 2 Big 12 teams including Kansas, and beat a ranked Washington State team that beat Texas Tech. They beat a winning San Jose State team, and they beat a good UNR team who only lost 5 games by single digits. That is 5 games they could have won. Wyoming is tough to play at this time of the year with the weather and elevation. BYU can tell you that during this time of the year.
It should be strength of schedule and who you have beat , ranked teams ! So they are ranked to high to begin with ! To 25 yes , no way 12 ! Its total bull !
Boise State beat UNLV who beat Kansas and Houston, two BIG 12 Teams, on the road. Boise State beat Washington State who beat Texas Tech, a BIG 12 school. Boise State and BYU were in a conference together for a really long time before BYU got to the BIG 12 and during that time it was Boise state that had the better head to head record against BYU. There is no gap between the Boise State program and BYU. IF anything, it’s Boise State that’s been the better program the last 25 years. It’s really sad to see all the BIG 12 talking heads now try to take shots at Boise State, a program that has literally been the definition of underdogs it’s entire existence. It’s not Boise State’s fault that we live in a POWER 2 era and that most people outside of BIG 12 country don’t think the BIG 12 Is a good conference. If you want to change how people view the BIG 12 conference then don’t have teams get murdered 65-7 in national championship games. When your conference champ loses 65-7 in a national championship game to an SEC school then your conference is closer to the group of 5 then it is to the SEC. BIG 12 if you want respect then focus on actually winning playoff games, bowl games, and big non con games. This punching down trying to trash Boise State ain’t it. This is the whining that turns people not in BIG 12 country off from BIG 12 football. I’m an ASU alum saying this.
@terrencenewman5580 this is great post, this is from a boise state alum
Thank you for defending BSU. Big12 is a terrific conference and is most definitely undervalued but trashing BSU isnt the answer.
Boise State strength of schedule is truly weak. CFP committee is only ranking them higher because they have a heisman candidate. If they played any of the top 4 big 12 teams they would lose. Seems questionable they could get a bye while a Big 12 champ with two losses would have to play Ohio State as the 12 seed.
@@jonathanhartpence7539 ….colorado has a candidate too if the cfb playoff committee really wanted it that way…? 🤦🏻♂️
@ ummmm no they would beat any of those teams ask BYU Boise state owns them and I know you want the big 12 to be good but big 12 hasn’t been good since the real teams left…Oklahoma,Texas Nebraska, Texas A&M those are the teams that built the “big 12”. This big 12 is another Mountain west non power 5 conference
Big12 should just invite Boise State to their conference already… half of the big 12 is from the old mountain west anyway
You would think that would have been an easy fix.
The CFP is a beauty pageant. Can you imagine if the NFL playoffs was decided by who they thought the top teams were to be in a playoff. Unbelievable.
Couz are you telling me that you are just now realizing that the media looks at just one player on teams??? It has been going on for a very long time. It is rediculous because football is a TEAM Sport. It is not golf. But this has been going on for a very long time.
This video isn’t about the media. It’s about the college football playoff committee. It’s a group of A.D.’s and executives that should not be looking at just one player.
The main argument for Boise is that their only loss is to the #1 team by a small margin. This is not even a discussion if Boise lost to Oregon by 40. The difference between a 1 loss Boise and a 2 loss B12 will be razor thin. The B12 teams have some good wins that Boise does not have, some of them also have bad losses that Boise does not have. It will be interesting to track.
@@KeepChoppin definitely
UNLV beat Kansas and Houston, and Kansas is knocking off the top teams while Boise State manhandled UNLV who was ranked at the time.
@ that’s fair and definitely something I glossed over. That being said, I still don’t think that’s enough to vault BSU past a 2-loss Big 12 champ.
@Spitfirethedragon This Kansas team is not that Kansas team and this UNLV team is not that UNLV team.
@@CouzsCornerSports BYU fans are coming to Boise's defense about how tough it is to play in Wyoming this time of the year. They have played Wyoming for over 100 years, and the winter time this time of the year does go against the opposing team.
Awesome video man great break down
@@chasejohnson9639 thanks
The Big 12 wasn’t complaining at the start of things when the rules were put in place. Because, I’m sure they believed there wasn’t a chance they wouldn’t get a bye.
Not that there’s no clear Plath. The Big-12 is crying about it.
How come these team didn’t do a home and home with Wyoming.
Because, nobody wants to play Wyoming in Laramie in late November.
First, Big 12 plays their non-conference games early in the season. Second, ASU defeated Wyoming in Laramie.
The Big12 needs to get into the CFP & win games. The rest of the schools need to destroy teams in their bowl games to get people talking about the Big12. Get to them to see the Big12 is better than they thought. If they can win convincing against other conferences, maybe it can earn some respect going into next season. The Big12 needs to go into the bowl season with a chip on their shoulders & run up as many scores as they can. MAKE A STATEMENT!
UNLV did that with wins over Kansas and Houston. Boise State beats UNLV, UNLV beat Kansas and Houston, Kansas beat Iowa State, BYU and Colorado. There is no discussion that Boise State should be ranked higher than the Big 12 teams. There is talk that Tulane should be ranked ahead of the Big 12 because they lost to 3 to Kansas, and lost to Oklahoma by 14, and Oklahoma smoked Alabama.
College football never ceases to amaze me. Can you imagine if the NFL was ran like this? A beauty padjent with what the network wants to see. This hole CFP perception is almost becoming a joke of sorts. I am hoping someone with comin sense will make some unbiased decisions going forward.
Stop acting like the big 12 isn't mountain west 2.0
It will never ever be fair if you have people voting using their opinions ever
This is just setting the stage for the 8-3 teams to stay in the playoff so that the SEC can have more representation than any other conference!
Probably
First everyone in here smash the like button COUZ does some of the best content on TH-cam for college football and I’m not even a big or West Virginia guy
Totally agree, couz
@@RockandRant1 thank you for that. It means a lot.
@@RockandRant1 by the way, what do you think about the Canes’ OC Shannon Dawson? I think he could be an under the radar HC candidate for a program at some point.
@couzscornersports I think he is a very good but not necessarily elite OC. He got a lot of crap last year, but that was all about not having a quarterback and this year. I think he’s not getting enough credit because Cam Ward is so special but if you watch the all 22 videos they get out there. There are many times where wide receivers are schemed completely open. The cam choose it to go somewhere else or misses them entirely in a lot of places that are not just about ward freestyle doing crazy things.
I’m torn whether I think he or Lashley was the better offensive coordinator over the last 20 years for Miami but I do think lash stuff was very simple and very predictable and I think Dawson‘s play calling this year even with the magic of ward has been pretty remarkable. Some Miami fans might not want to admit it because of the yo-yo of the two years, but I would be bummed that he left but kind of already assumed that he might.
I will bet either BYU, AZ State or Iowa State as Conference Champions. I don't see chaos hitting the Big XII in the final week.
I hope not.
It just seems no matter what conference WVU is in, the bias is obvious. They did the same thing to the Big East conference as well.
It's not what you think. It has to do with money. If by chance Boise State wins their conference championship, they would be hosting a game in a much smaller stadium. By giving them a bye. Boise State doesn't get to host a game. It's about money. I think at most the stadium at Boise State holds 36,000 people where as a fiesta bowl can hold 100,000 people. I know it doesn't seem fair but I think the rash now from the cfp is it's about money. But don't put the broncos down.
Not if Boise St gets a bye. They will most likely play in the Fiesta Bowl. Someone from the Fiesta Bowl conmitee said it just makes since from a Regional perspective.If Boise St wins out they will be either the 4th or 12th seed.
That’s an interesting angle I had not considered. I really hope that’s not a reason for voting the way they did. My intention isn’t to put Boise down but to compare resumes. BSU is a good team and deserves a CFP spot.
@@michaelfloyd1127 agreed! Either circumstance, Boise wouldn’t host the two games. Either a neutral sight or an away game.
Preach to me... I'm a Tech Grad and fan of all Tech sports. But I love the way you break down football!
Boise State wouldn't even be considered for a bowl game if they were in the BIGXII.
@@davidhenry1663 that’s a fair point.
Boise state would win the big12 this year.
That is what they said when Boise State Joined the Big West (dominated). That's what they said when We joined the Mountain West (dominated). Our History Is strong so Invite us then we can dominate your Conference as well.
No one seems to understand Boise State typically beats those big 12 teams. And they also play up or down to their opponents. BSU can hang in there with any team in the top 10.
I think in the future the group of 5 is gonna have their own playoff/league Couz what do you think?
@@corradomascitti88 maybe, but it’ll likely be several years down the road.
He relates the Wyoming game but forgets about UNLV beating the crap out of Houston and beating Kansas. Boise State beat UNLV Oh and Kansas beat Colorado. Houston beat Iowa state. By transitive property BOISE STATE IS BETTER THAN EVERY BIG 12 team. If your best argument is that Boise won a game tight that was on the road in late November. Then your argument holds very little weight. By the way I am not the transitive property type but since that is your metric that is what I am using to show you Boise State has the better resume. Also, lets just wait and watch the games first because Boise State is going to have some trouble with Oregon State and UNLV. These are Two HOT teams right now. Oregon State is just like Kansas. Oregon State has everyone back on their team from injury now. If Boise State beats both of those teams they deserve a 1st round bye. VERY Difficult task in front of them especially because Boise state is missing 5 starters.
When UNLV beat Kansas who beat Iowa State, Colorado and BYU, and get smoked by Boise State tells you that Boise gets more respect. Boise beat two top 25 teams in UNLV and Washington State and came close to beating Oregon. When your top teams getting beat a Kansas team that was below 500 in wins? Than you are in trouble and could lose the 5th champions spot if Arizona State, Colorado, BYU and Iowa State loses again. Tulane could sneak in and take that spot.
I just talked about that in my show actually; the Tulane part.
All I say is that you don't look at the whole picture when it comes to conference game. Whether your second through last place in the conference they are always going to the top team as their championship game. No matter what conference your in. Case in point Colorado was the odds on pick to win over the Jayhawks, but the Jayhawks played with nothing to loose. Same goes for ASU over BYU. Then you have to look at the team and venue in case with Wyoming high altitude and also playing in November not an easy task to do. Finally the game is played on the field not on paper so the record shows Boise state as 9-1 which is better than 9-2 or 8-3. Also a reminder Boise State has a good track record of knocking of the high a might. So I would say that Boise State deserves the respect that the committee is giving them. Let the game be played on the field and the chip will land where they may.
It's simple to me. BYU, Kansas State, Iowa State, and Iowa State were all warned about what bad losses could do. The same way the 2 loss SEC teams were warned along with Texas. The same for Indiana, Penn State, Notre Dame, Army, Miami and Clemson. BYU and Colorado controlled their destiny until they lost. And that applies to just about every other team who hasn't already earned the benefit of the doubt.
I am an Ohio State fan. Alabama should not get the benefit of the doubt with 3 losses, 2 to unranked teams. OSU hasn't lost to a unranked team since 2018. Alabama and Ole Miss got to be out of there period.
The CFP committee has screwed the B12 SO FAR. The B12 SHOULD have at least 2 teams in. A top 4 team and an at large bid.
Off topic Couz, Princeton will hammer North Marion then probably Hoover as well (they just beat us by 7). I want to see Princeton vs Bridgeport and will if Indy makes it there too.
Awesome. Unfortunately, the state title game is on a day I already have plans. I’m disappointed about that.
Let's be real, the reason the Committee loves Boise is their very close loss to Oregon.
That’s a huge part of it.
You're missing one key point. When ASU lost to Cincinnati, ASUs quarterback Sam Levitt didn't play that game.
Fair point.
Like I said on Twitter. A B12 champion will likely have 9 P4 wins while Boise will not have a P4 win. Simple as that
@@HazzardCountyEng yep
Boise seems to have a habit of beating "P4" teams. Been kinda generational. Simple as that!
Well no duh!!! Boise St doesn't play in a P4 Conference. They have played WSU and will play Oregon St. You have to be delusional if you think a G5 school needs to schedule a P4 team for every Non Conference game. Also, games are scheduled years in advance.
I think im placing a bet on baylor winning the conference championship. Not convinced that the big 12 is a power 4 team other than in name. Hay stop finding ways to loose
You do know that Sagarin rankings says the B12 is the 2nd best conference only sitting behind the SEC.
I bet the committee is just hoping Boise State will loose either against Oregon State or UNLV. Boise states play in their last 4 games have revealed a lot of vulnerabilities. They haven’t been that great. I don’t think they’ll make it to the playoffs so this whole argument will be moot
Funny I keep hearing all the hate on a one loss team you should save all that crap for the three lost teams and two lost teams
Simple; BSU handled its business better than Big 12 teams.
College football died the day VT & Miami left for the ACC. Its been shit ever since.
You mean the day the NCAA allowed for a CCG with 12 members in 2 divisions?
SOS and Style points dont matter in the group of 5. Our rules is this: The highest ranked group of 5 is in. Why? We have to beat out 5 confrences while the Big 12 only has to win 1. If you don't like those rules than let Big12 teams move to a group of 5 confrence. The time to fight the rules is before the season starts not at the end of the season because your teams don't make it. The other point is that there is a good chance that UNLV beats BSU in the MWC Championship game. If that happens than this dispute is null and void. BSU beat Wash St that was ranked and UNLV and if they beat UNLV again that would beat 3 ranked teams, they lost to the number one team in the country in the last second of the game. When Texas and Oklahoma left you lost your power status.
We literally still have power status. That being said, your points are valid.
Dude a big 12 team from last year is at the top of the sec, Oklahoma just beat Alabama, these guys follow this retoric just to get a leg up and the inside track to a cfp
Who also lost to Georgia and best win is Vandy. Texas is going to get rolled in the SEC Championship game ....... again probably by GA, again.
Boise state football historically has been at minimum comparable if not dominant of big 12 teams, how about losing the hate and sending the invite i bet BSU would not join the maybe pac12 over the big 12
Big 12 doen"t have a teams, who won a national title in 40 years.
@@zornellm44 I’m talking about 2024. Past games don’t dictate the 2024 champion.
The only way to fix the controversies is to give every conference champion an automatic bid into the CFP. Then it becomes simple... In order to get into the playoffs you have to win your conference championship. Rankings become immaterial. If you're not a champion you don't deserve to be in the playoffs.
I get so tired of hearing that the SEC is so much better than the rest of the nation. Well, put your money where your mouth is SEC. Instead of trying to set up your own little club game and calling it a national championship, how about you actually beat the other champions.
Here's the premium example: 2008-2009. Y'all refused to give Utah a chance at the championship when they were undefeated with a strong schedule. End result... the only undefeated team that year was Utah because your number two beat your number one.
Now mind you, I am not a Utah fan. I've been a BYU fan since I was 10, and a Boise State fan since I served with the 116 CAV boys in Iraq in 2004. But fair is fair. All 12 positions in the cfp should come from conference champions. If you choke and can't beat your in conference competition, you don't deserve to be in the CFP.
The ACC is a joke and is a lot weaker than the Big 12 conference.
Delusional....
Football Playoff Appearances, 1st Rd Wins, Nattys (per Wiki 2015-2024)
ACC: 8-4-2 (Includes 1 of 2 ND appearances)
B12: 2-1-0 (Excludes OK; includes Cincy)
B1G: 12-5-2 (Includes Oregon & Washington)
PAC: 0-0-0 (Excludes Oregon & Washington)
SEC: 17-10-6 (Includes OK & TEXAS)
BCS Runner Ups - Champs (2000 - 2014)
ACC: 4-3 (Includes VATECH, MIAMI, ND)
B12: 0-0 (Excludes NEB, OK, TX)
B1G: 5-2 (Includes NEB, USC, ORE)
PAC: 0-0 (Excludes USC, ORE)
SEC: 6-10 (Includes OK, TEX)
Yeah.... outside of the top 2-3 teams, the ACC is really not that good.
@@lorenzohaynes3886 The BIG12 has no big football brands. None of the members are considered that good.
@@lorenzohaynes3886 problem is, the top 2-3 in the ACC are perceived as better than the Big 12 because of their brand (with SMU as an exception.)
@tarheel7406 Maybe.... but if K State, Utah, Oke State, Kansas, or Arizona would've been pretty good this year, they'd easily be top 10. If WVU was 9-2 right now. They'd be top 10. The issue you're saying needs to be something the ACC worries about as well. Because what it looks like is I'd Wake Forest and Syracuse were 9-2. They'd be on the outside looking in. And worst case scenario for the ACC is if SMU Wins. Miami loses a second game. Then Clemson wins the conference title. And you may be looking at Boise in the 3 spot over 2 P4 champions. All because they lost by 3 to Oregon. It's something wrong with that metric. I get the brand argument. Even though it's nonsense on the field. But this whole thing is gonna bite someone in the rear. And it's only gonna hurt the Big 12 a d ACC. Perspective....... A G5 school losing to a Big 10 school by 3 is so much more valuable than the Big and ACC. That playing one game against the supposed P2 erases the fact that you play a G5 schedule. And leaps you over P4 champions, not in those two conferences. That is a major problem. Let me say that again. Because this is not about whose better between the ACC or Big 12. A lose to a top Big 10 or SEC school is so valuable. It lifts a G5 schools G5 schedule above P4 champions. If you don't understand. That means it doesn't matter what brands yiu think you have in yiur conference. If you don't have a patch from those conferences. You better not have more than 1 loss. Or you'll get left out possibly. Um..... that means horrible things for the next version of this CFP and beyond. And long-term. Fans have 5-10 years and the break off will be official. You don't do things like that, sending those statements if you have any intentions of letting anyone, but those 2 conferences play Big Boy football. The ax is coming.
I should already know, but is the concern that BOISE may cover the requirement for one of the top 4 conference champions ~and~ the G5 slot? Which would push out the BIG12 champ and create space for (likely) another SEC team?
@@tarheel7406 not exactly. I'm sure he talks about it, but I'm just starting it. It's the top 5 conference champs period and with the chaos last weekend the Big 12 champ is in. It's the bye week that is a concern, but A&M is still alive for the SEC championship so everything now is just moot because A&M could win the SEC and then the question would be should they get a bye or not as a 3 loss champ.
@@joshuatayloe8616 Thanks. Then what's the risk posed by BOISE? No bye is a hit, but not the end of the world. ND can't ever get a bye.
@@tarheel7406 true, but ND doesn't have to play a conference championship game either so they kind of have a built in bye. I will say this year would probably suck to be the 12th seed because you'll likely play the B1G runner up in the 1st round. So instead of 2 weeks to prepare you'll only get 1.
@@tarheel7406 it’s definitely a concern. I just didn’t mention it in this video.
@@joshuatayloe8616 that’s another negative to being the fifth ranked conference champ if you aren’t in the top 11.
Because that 1 loss was to the #1 team in the country vs 2 losses vs ..........some ranked and some unranked teams. Sorry a loss to Nebraska isn't pushing the needle. Yes Boise had their worst game against Wyoming, some weeks be like that there is even a term coined for those type of games "trap games". But they found a way to win even though Jeanty got dinged up again and missed some drives and was less effective than usual, in fact the backup was the one that scored the game winning touchdown. Now I would also agree that several 2 loss B12 teams have better wins than Boise. So it seems to come down to better wins vs worse losses.
Does it matter if ASU gets the bye. They’d pay Oregon or Ohio State either way.
BYU lost against an unranked team with a loosing record.
The panel has dropped ranked teams loosing unranked teams by 8-9 rankings. Ranked vs ranked by a 4-5 rank drop. Top 4 loss to top 4, a 2-3 rank drop. They have been consistent in this.
Let’s not forgot that UNLV beat Kansas. Who lost to Boise State.
Who did Iowa State, BYU and Colorado lose to?
All fair, but they seem to be weighing losses more than wins. I’m not sure I agree with that approach.
Wrong ! Boise beat two teams that were ranked currently at the time that they played one of which is still currently ranked and they will have a rematch with in the mountain championship . Cuz stop, hating bro it’s not a good look for you.
Boise\Tulane vs Big XII... too funny since neither of those have played as many Power 4 games as the Big XII teams. Strength of Season? Head-to-Head, etc. Big XII may need to go to 8 conference games and play some cushy games like ACC/SEC, so we can get that extra win? Also Big XII 100% needs their own true Tier 1 Media Partner. FOX has been ok with BIg XII but ESECPN has clearly treated the XII like the mistress.
Then the rules need to be changed to be skewed towards the P4 schools. Make it so that the bye rounds can only go to the four P4 conference champions, regardless of their record. The CFP is mainly for P4 conferences anyway. Then highest ranked P4 runner-ups
get 5 thru 8 positions, then the highest ranked G6 school is automatically in at the 9 spot. Then just fill in the rest of the field with whomever, to get to 12.
The split is coming between the P4 and G6. The G6 can then come up with their own playoff system to crown their own champion. A P4 champion, a G6 champion. Fair for everyone that way.
Everybody knows the play offs are a joke when the overrated SEC and B10schools get auto beds! How fair is that! NOT!!
the better question is this. had Oregon missed that field goal would an undefeated Boise be the #1 team in the country with Oregon as a 1 loss team? Its all subjective BS. Boise is a distraction. The goal after last year was to break up the ACC and the Big 12. They failed. Boise is the way to Break up one of those as the season ends. What better way to create a "sinking ship". Snub either the big 12 or ACC and we get to hear expansion rumors all over again.
The BIG12 has already broken up.
Couz I love the big 12 easily the best bball conference but are football sucks if the best big 12 teams was in the SEC they would go 7-5 6-6
Final Four Appearances, 1st Rd Wins, Nattys (per Wiki 2015-2024. 2020 N/A)
ACC: 9-5-3
B12: 5-3-2 (Excludes OK; includes Houston)
BIGEAST: 6-4-4
SEC: 5-0-0 (Includes OK)
B1G: 7-3-0 (Includes Oregon & UCLA)
ACC - Appeared in 7 of 9 Final Fours (6 different teams)
BE - Appeared in 5 of 9 Final Fours (2 different teams)
B12 - Appeared in 4 of 9 Final Fours (4 different teams)
Say ASU wins out vs Arizona and whatever ranked opponent in the Big12 title game. 3 of their last 4 wins win be against ranked opponents when they played them. Boise? Zero. ASU will jump them in the playoff rankings. Byu, Iowa st will do the same. Big 12 will get the 4 spot.
@@elche1976 I hope so
Your wrong Boise St will have at least 2 and WSU was ranked for a couple of weeks
Only team that I can see jumping Boise St is ASU. If Boise St wins out and faces and beats UNLV, in the MWCCG, if ASU hasn't jumped Boise St. prior to Conference Championships, ASU isn't jumping Boise St. The MWCCG will have 2 ranked teams playing. ASU needs to jump Boise St next week. Neither BYU nor ISU will jump Boise St.
@@michaelfloyd1127 that Boise jumped 1 spot for what they did against Wyoming is puzzling.
Just to help you see the rest of the picture here. The remaining of Boise state and AZ states schedules are basically the same. Boise plays a 5-6 Oregon state then a ranked UNLV in the conference championship, AZ state plays a 4-7 AZ then a TBD team ranked similar to UNLV in the conferences championship game. With as much of a gap behind Boise AZ state is there is no realistic chance they get past Boise for the #4 seed as long as both Boise and AZ state wins out. Sorry to burst the Big 12 bubble but it just won’t happen.
So, over this argument people make, "because" we have parity that automatically beats us.
No offense, Arizona State barely beat Mississippi State (2-10), barely beat Texas State (6-6 an average team), Boise State beat Washington State, who beat Texas Tech who dominated Arizona State. Now lets look at BYU they barely beat SMU (who u claimed is a quality win), that same SMU team barely beat Nevada, now to be fair with SMU, BYU beat an SMU team that changed QBs and looks miles better. BYU should have lost to Utah in a game that saw many many controversial calls go against Utah (and I know you're excuse will be they have injuries), not to mention BYU struggled AT HOME to a bad Oklahoma State team. Iowa State lost to Texas Tech, who lost to Washington State who got dominated by Boise State.
Your arguments fall flat when you're not consistent in your approach. You can't acknowledge close wins by Boise State as faults, and then deflect on the bad close wins for the Big 12.
You make fair arguments. At the end of the day, the Big 12 overall is a stronger conference than the MWC. So, unless their champion has 2 more losses than BSU, they should get the bye. That being said, I do think BSU is capable of beating P4 teams in the CFP. They are a good team.
They didn't just start this because of they playoffs.. you might not be opd enough lol to remember.. WV has always be done like they did BYU in dropping in rankings.. ww was dropped when our only lose to a pitt game years ago as a Big East team orca Miami game went something like a number 1 or 2 to out of or at a top 10 with a one game lose .. Don N. Days we were undefeated and was kept out of national championship Don was on fire .. this is not the first time fir this crap .. Sec and espen than big 10 has always controlled what and who git in what ... They controlled the money .. the Vegas people has always controlled the system to .. no disrespect at all against you look what your show is now it's ran buy who pays you as a sponsor with bet system.. you get your info or have given your info through bet world like your stats .. the industry has destroyed teams for years.. its just now getting out of control.. college is being turned into a minor nfl league , or has been...
@@backwoods7678 the only info I get from BetUS are the betting lines. That’s it. But, I get your point and it’s fair. The people who control the money control the sport.
Once again tv money controls everything in sports which is getting tiresome. Tv wants Boise because they believe the RB will get more views. Sad but true. Same reason WV girls basketball got cheated against Iowa lat year in the tournament with the bogus whistle against us in last few minutes. Garbage but reality. Sports are not the same with money at stake. Always about the money.
@@j2farmandoutdoors unfortunately you are right.
The Big 12 champion should be ranked higher than Boise State. Besides Orego, Boise Stat hasn't played anybody. Do you agree with me?
@@MrJohn33751 absolutely
The MWCCG could possibly have 2 Ranked teams, so if ASU doesn't jump over Boise St in next week's CFP Rankings, they are not jumping Boise St.
Boise State is not a playoff team. Not because they're in the MWC. But because they are really subpar against bad MWC teams. The ACC has some really bad teams this. But they are still P4. It's really kinda offensive for the MWC conference to be compared to any P4 conference. But there's something deeper going on here. Boise getting credit for playoff a Big 10 or SEC team close. That's saying even playing a higher end school in those conferences is worth more than a total conference record in the other P4 conferences. Which is obviously setting up this P2 scheduling alliance. Further diminishing the value of the other P4 conferences to a degree too far. Way too far. But i do believe had the preseason favorites performed. This wouldn't be a topic to discuss. So there's that issue. I'm not sure what to do with that. Either way...... Private Equity is obviously needed. And this does kinda setup a final week Big 12 Playoff.
Boise plays no one, but the media loves them for some reason. I watched them over the weekend and they were lucky to get past.a 2-9 Wyoming team that looked awful....
@@lorenzohaynes3886 well said
@@richrivers1232 it’s simple. They want Ashton Jeanty on TV
Boise beat a rank UNLV team that beat 2 Big 12 teams including Kansas, and beat a ranked Washington State team that beat Texas Tech. They beat a winning San Jose State team, and they beat a good UNR team who only lost 5 games by single digits. That is 5 games they could have won. Wyoming is tough to play at this time of the year with the weather and elevation. BYU can tell you that during this time of the year.
It looks like they are a playoff team right now
It should be strength of schedule and who you have beat , ranked teams ! So they are ranked to high to begin with ! To 25 yes , no way 12 ! Its total bull !