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Liverpool 2018/19 - Premier League's Greatest 'What If'
Liverpool 2018/19 - Premier League's Greatest 'What If'
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Centurions, invincibles, continental double....😭What a team though....glad we got the league done in 19/20. Awesome video.
Yeah kind of relieved you won it in 19/20, the squad deserved that
And we now know that the team that handed them their only loss that season, took 5 total points off of them that season, and won the title over them that season (and were the only centurions in league history the year prior) were rampantly cheating the entire time!
This isn't just a "What If." As far as I'm concerned, this team *is* all of those things and this is the greatest season ever put together by a (non-cheating) team!
The question now is, will the league agree once the investigation and trial against Man City is over? Will Man City be found guilty (let's be clear, we *all* know they *are* guilty - even crybaby fans of the team pretending they don't know that - the question is whether the league will *officially* rubber stamp that fact!)?! If found guilty, what happens? Do they only get punishments that affect their future, or do any of their illegally won past accolades get retroactively removed? If their past accolades get retroactively removed, then what happens? Do *any* of those get re-awarded?
To be clear, Cup competitions likely can't be re-awarded, because there's no good way to know, for example, if the cheating team's semifinal or finals opponent (both of which were eliminated by the cheating team) would've won on that particular day in a hypothetical finals matchup. But *league* competitions - it's tough in some cases, but in *multiple* cases, a clear winner *can* be awarded. Liverpool that season were *25 points ahead* of the next closest team (3rd-placed Chelsea with 72 points), and they *very obviously* win that season if the cheating team doesn't exist. Seasons like that and the 2011-2012 season (where Man City and Man United tied for 89 points, with 3rd placed Arsenal a full *19 points* behind them) should almost certainly go to the team that *clearly* would've won if the cheating team had not participated.
But then, another question should be asked. What about individual matches? Liverpool played Man City *twice* that season, drawing at home, and losing away (a total of 1 point out of a possible 6). That loss was their *only* loss of the season. And that draw was one of only *two* draws at home (the other was a 1-1 draw with Leicester City, a team they defeated in the away fixture. To put it simply, Liverpool got a *minimum* of 4 points off of *every* team that season *except* Man City)! If you replace Man City with any hypothetical non-cheating team, Liverpool gets a *minimum* of 4 points off of them and reaches that centurion mark!
So, in other words, it took *literal cheating* to prevent this Liverpool team from *not only* winning a PL title, but going *undefeated* and reaching the *centurion* mark as well, all in a season where the team *won* the Champion's League! To me, there's no debate by anyone being truly objective! *That* 18/19 Jurgen Klopp Liverpool squad is the greatest single-season squad of all-time! And I doubt that they will ever officially get recognized as such on the official record, but if the record were ever corrected to account for Man City's cheating, it would show that!
Stones clearance was one of the most if not the most important clearance in pl history
Football history debatably in terms of a clubs seasonal achievement
Stones is one of the most underrated players in football.
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liverpool 21/22 was an even greater what if, that would've been the greatest season anyone's ever had if not because of just 2 matches where we lost
the spurs 1-1 draw at anfield cost them big time.
Theres a what if inside of this what if. Basically in the 2019/2020 season Aston villa was playing a game against Sheffield United. Sheffield United sent in a free kick and the goalkeeper catches it but then fell back into his net but no goal was given even though it clearly crossed the line. That game ended 0-0 and without that point Aston villa would’ve been relegated and Bournemouth would’ve stayed up. Because of the relegation, Nathan ake left and went to man city. During the 2021/2022 season during a game vs Arsenal he made a goal line clearance and that game would’ve ended 2-2 if arsenal scored there and Liverpool would’ve won the league
Absolute facts. It’s actually insane how just 2 games of prevented an unprecedented, historic, legendary and absolute epic tale that would not have been repeated again anywhere for a good while if ever.
You’re not wrong but that’s 2 whole games where in this example it’s 11 millimeters that could’ve been all the difference, both still mental
We almost had the quadruple man only if Aston villa would’ve beat city and we just beat bitch ass Real Madrid
As a Liverpool fan it's just heart breaking. Coming twice to win trophies and just by 1 point twice. It's painful.
With history record-breaking points and points that would have won us the league almost every single season in history history as well. The sheer misery is immeasurable 💔 especially due to how unique this all is. It practically doesn’t happen at all. So it wasn’t just any ordinary missing out or heartbreak.
Madrid just had to add to that pain too 😭😭😭
At least you won UCL in 18/19. As a Barcelona fan it still pains me how we blew it in Anfield.
As a CSKA Sofia fan I know how this feels😭😭 2019 and 2023, missed penalties in the most decisive moments and 1 point away from the first place…🥺
Especially given that the team that denied those historic titles was cheating the entire time!
I hope that one day the *official* record will be corrected - especially for this 18/19 season!
A quick summary: against the other 18 *non-cheating* teams, Liverpool got 96 points across 36 matches, and got a *minimum* of 4 points (out of 6 possible) against *every* team across both fixtures with that team during the season. And if you don't believe that, there's a quick way to know it's true. Again, against the other 18 teams, the *only* team to prevent Liverpool from winning at home was Leicester City (a 1-1 draw), whom Liverpool *won* the away fixture against. Against the other 18 teams, Liverpool lost *zero* games out of 36 total games, and there was *no* team that achieved a draw at Anfield who also achieved a draw at home - therefore, Liverpool got *at least* 4 points (a win and a draw, and/or two wins) against *every* other team that season!
That brings us to the Man City matchups. Liverpool drew at home and lost away (a total of 1 point out of 6 possible across both fixtures) to the team we now know was rampantly cheating! Replace that team with *any* random hypothetical non-cheating team, and Liverpool gets a *minimum* of 4 points (remember, 4 points was the *bare minimum* they achieved against *every* other non-cheating team that season)! Do the math, add those 4 points in those two fixtures to the 96 they achieved in all the other fixtures, and they achieve 100 points and go undefeated, and win the PL title, all in the same season they won the Champions League!
Oh, and as an added bonus, the only other team to reach the centurion was those same Man City cheaters the year prior!
If the *official* record is ever rightfully correct, *that* is what it will (or at least *should)* show! Yes, there are other aspects of correcting the record that I won't know how to properly correct, but *this* is one where it's *beyond patently obvious* what happens if the cheaters don't cheat!
But yes, even if the *official* record fails to note that, hopefully everyone can see now that that official record is wrong, and can now see the *actual* historical significance of that 18/19 season! By far the greatest season ever put together by an English team in history! It took *literal cheating* to prevent this 18/19 Liverpool team from going undefeated and reaching a centurion to win the title, all in a season the team *won* the Champions League!
The Kompany goal vs leicester hit like dagger to the heart in 18/19. I dont think there is a team who had alot of what if moments like liverpool. As recent as villa vs city in 2022.
Sticking with the Liverpool and what if themes, I feel like the Rodri handball in 2022 is worthy of a mention. If that’s given and Everton score the pen and all other results stay the same as they were, we win the league. Similarly, the Sterling offside goal for Liverpool against city in the 13/14 season, clearly onside and if he scores and the game ended 2-2 instead and all other results stayed the same, then we won the league that season too.
Liverpool aren’t very lucky are they?
@@Vizeh in recent times, nah not really haha. However we do have the Garcia ghost goal on our side against Chelsea in the CL semifinal in 2005
Wolves got cheated against City that season too. City got given a penalty for "handball" when it clearly hit his armpit
@@Lythgoemania yeah I had forgot about that but now you mention it I do remember it. Never a pen. Moutinho had his arm in the air but like you say it clearly hit his armpit and not his arm
@@naD_32 It's not like there weren't some dodgy decisions for Liverpool during their PL winning season. Some you get, some you don't pal
I remember that final day when Glenn Murray scored to put Brighton 1-0 up, gave me hope for a few minutes
Man city literally scored a minute later
The biggest 'what if' I've ever witnessed is from the 18-19 season as well. Newly relegated Deportivo La Coruña (my beloved team, LaLiga winner and UCL semifinalist not so long ago) had the chance to be promoted a year after, playing the playoff final against Mallorca. In Spain, promotion playoffs are two-legged. On the first leg, in our delightful Riazor Stadium, we won 2-0, playing a brilliant football and being very close to returning to the first division. Unfortunately, the second leg was a dissaster. Our manager planned a ultra defensive style that was not effective. We lost the match and the whole promotion run, we lost 3-0.
However, in the last minute, our defender Pablo Marí (later a Flamengo and Arsenal player) had the perfect chance to score the 3-1 and win the promotion due to the double values of away goals. Well, he missed the perfect header with the whole goal empty. The match ended then and we lost that opportunity.
The following year, we got relegated to the third tier, where we are set to start our fourth season in a row. Many disgraces have happened since; maybe scoring that missed goal could have changed it all. Since then, Mallorca has been brilliant in the first division, has sold players to PSG and this season looks like it's going to compite for entering in Europe.
I encourage you to look at Deportivo's situation, it could be a massive video. Greetings from Spain!
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I hear so many stories about Deportivo La Coruña. The club must go through so much
Sorry to hear that :(
I remember the times when I was a kid and Super Depor was a scary team at La Liga (I think the 00s was better time for the spanish league, much more competitive and interesting) and playing UCL regularly, unfortunately I don't have many memories of watching their matches (I'd play with them a lot on Winning Eleven/PES though lol)... maybe the epic comeback against Milan but that's about it. I hope y'all come back someday, good luck
Yes I definitely think a video should be done on them, got curious not long ago when I played a really old fifa game and was surprised when I saw they were one of the highest rated teams in Spain and spent hours reading their history after that lol
@@EhhebeneheurbebeneTikTok’s ruined your attention span bro😂😂😂
This pains me to see this as a LFC fan. Amazing video, mate ❤
Wish you well mate❤
Chelsea better
@@EhhebeneheurbebeneChelsea spent more last season than lfc from 2017 to 2021 and got 12
@@TCCC_MADSCOUSER Caicedo and lavia chose Chelsea for a reason 🤷♂️
What is so special about 2019 liverpool?Yes they won the champions league but they didnt even win their domestic league also liverpool have reached the final of champions league many times 2018 and 2022
Honestly in my time watching football and as a Barca fan I have to go with that 18/19 game at anfield. I’ve seen 2012 messi, I’ve seen 2009 messi, I’ve seen 2015 messi, 2019 messi I think was the greatest individual season of all time. Carried the whole team to a la liga, copa del Rey, a super cup, and semi final of champions league where unfortunately Barca chocked 3 goal aggregate. But just that season was a Messi revenge tour after the 2018 World Cup. Still think about that Wednesday night man.
My favorite What ifs are the Monaco and Ajax UCL runs in 2017 and 2019 respectively. The chance for the latter to be in final instead of Juve and Spurs who were both outclassed.
In the 21/22 season, Fabinho had an open goal in the match vs City at Anfield towards the end of the game and it got cleared off the line. Obviously you have the missed handball against Rodri but I think that moment sticks out more to me
Broooo I remember that 😂
I could see this becoming a series.
My what if is also with LFC. The Gerrard slip. What if Liverpool won the league? Rogers would probably stay as manager. Klopp would probably end up somewhere else. Would they win the UCL?
The width of your pinky finger nail stopped Liverpool from having the greatest season in English football history. Still unbelievable to this day. Great video Vizeh mate
What if Nathan Dyer hadn't put his body on the line to score that winner for Leicester against Aston Villa in the 2015/16 season?
Looking back, that was such a big goal. It was still only September, there was no talk of a title challenge yet. The objective for the Foxes was still avoiding relegation at that stage.
Leicester had been 2-0 down to a Villa side that were, by a distance, the worst team in the league that year. But they completed a great comeback, rounded off by Nathan Dyer throwing himself to get his head to the ball to score an 89th minute winner.
Without that, Leicester would have dropped points in 4 of their first 7 games, and the mentality and expectations for the season would have undoubtedly been different.
Dyer got absolutely clattered by Brad Guzan, and needed treatment for the hit he took to the head. But he put the ball in the net, and the rest is history.
Whilst Leicester won the league by some distance in the end that year, I believe that comeback against Aston Villa was when it first started to feel like there was something special happening with that team.
What if the Augero goal never happened
That's why Football is Phenomenal game! 11mm could be a difference maker!
I am not a Pool fan, but I really would love them to win the title in those 2 seasons (2018/19 and 2021/22) because IMO their performances truly deserved it, but City was just too good. Had they played in another league, they would have totally dominated it 😢
"What if Todd Boehly never came to Chelsea?" would definitely be an interesting exploration. It could have gone better or EVEN WORSE.
Liverpool fan here, the intro saddens me immensely
That season overall was one of the best in the premier league history I feel
That year, Barcelona was a bigger what if, in my opinion. If not for the freak losses vs. Liverpool and Levante, they would've won an invincible treble.
Yeah Messi was completely unplayable in that season.
As far as I can remember Oxlade-Chamberlain barely played that season as he was injured for most of it. He could have made a difference against Man City that night. Even though he didn’t play at all in the UCL that season he still deserved his winners medal based on his previous season’s performances. He’ll always be a club hero and his influence will be missed
My only issue with the assessment of that Liverpool squad was the dismissal of Gini Wijnauldum as a role player that was rotated constantly. He was the V12 engine of their midfield, a true box 2 box CM that was crucial to how Klopp wanted to play. They thought players like Naby/Thiago/Arthur could fill the void after he left, but his level of play for the entirety of his time at Liverpool was simply world class and not easily replicated. I’m an Arsenal supporter so this is only from my neutral vantage point and the amount I respected him while on Merseyside.
i love these types of videos, god bless you bro!
That season was wild szn with highs and lows like getting knocked out on away goals by Tottenham but then vinnie screamer stones clearance and the incredible league run to win it made that szn special to me
My favourite is What If Agüero had missed
What if escobar never scored that own goal
Horrible event that
I don't know if it is my biggest what if, but the first thing that comes to mind is Neymar's transfer to PSG. What if he stayed at Barcelona and became a legend there? What if he went to a team that would both play him and win? Would he be in the GOAT conversation with CR7, Maradona, Pelé, Messi, R9? Did he have that potential?
R9 never getting injured is the greatest player 'what if' and forever will be. Man would've been above Pele, Maradona, Messi and CR7, all of them if he just didn't get injured.
What if Barcelona paid attention when that corner was taken quickly…
😂
Adriano is the greatest what if in football history
Ronaldo better
1 pen was the difference between a 14 goal conceded invincible and 26 clean sheets
Another Vizeh video, another great day.
Thank you mate!
What if Brian clough had gotten the England job
Top top shout
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One of The biggest “What If” , is from Brazilian Football
In Brasileirão 2014, Last round
The table was like this:
Criciuma and Botafogo were already going Down
Bahia was fightingto get out of the zone, by winning their last match against Coritiba (and the other teams losing or drawing)
and Palmeiras and Vitoria were fighting too
the Table was like this:
Palmeiras had 39 Points
Vitoria 38
Bahia had 37
Last match would be
Vitoria X Santos
Palmeiras X Athletico Paranaense
Bahia X Coritiba
All the games were very difficult, but Bahia lost 3-2 to Coritiba
So It only had Palmeiras and Vitoria, one of them would survive
Palmeiras were tied 1-1
And in the last minute of the game Thiago Ribeiro, Player from Santos scored, relegating Vitoria and saving Palmeiras (Santos Rivals)
After surviving relegation, Palmeiras got a new sponsorship with Crefisa, and started investing heavily in the team.
In 2015 They won the Copa do Brasil against Santos in the final
In the next year (2016) they were champions of the Brasileirão, with Santos in 2nd.
Palmeiras started getting stronger and stronger with every season.
And managed to Win the Libertadores Final, against Santos AGAIN in 2020
If Santos lost the game to Vitoria, maybe Palmeiras wouldn’t be what they’re today.
And in this years Brasileirão, Santos in fighting against relegation, while Palmeiras is getting to Libertadores again…
(I’m a Santos fan and this really makes me think sometimes)
I know that my comment isnt going to be like the topic of the video and that im going to be that annoying Messi fan, but this showed why Messi deserved Ballon dor that year, just because of the fact that he almost knocked out Liverpool
I have two greatest what if, two are about Romanian football, first is Romania back in the 1994 World Cup and how they were one penalty away from the semi-final with Brazil. If Dan Petrescu scored Romania could have beaten Sweden and played a semi-final with Brazil, then there's a more recent one in 2003, Romania under Mutu's new generation had to win against Denmark to qualify for Euro 2004, but that was not the case as famous Swiss official Urs Meier refused to end the game and Denmark equalised. Nonetheless brilliant video!
What if Kane scored both pens in World Cup ?
liverpool 2017-2020 era was crazy and to enjoy but it's crazy how they'll get overshadowed by man city domances
Another Liverpool what if is that if covid hadn’t happened in the 19/20 season their pre covid form could’ve continued and I think they would’ve smashed the pl point record
13/14 ❌
18/19❌
19/20 🏆
21/22❌
3 titles all lost to city😭😭
I'm a Liverpool fan, so I'm biased. But our Champions League campaign was one of the greatest sports performances I've ever seen. Our Premier League run as well, but it's truly bitter we didn't win it then!
I disagree I think Liverpool 2005 winning was more impressive that 3-0 comeback An the final with that weak squad
@@captainfalconmain6576 Okay, I can see that! 2005 final was definitely hugely impressive.
@@fiazovi yep
What if Barcelona didn't absolutely shoot themselves in the dick in the second leg of the UCL semi final in 2018/19 against Liverpool? Messi would have gone on to win his fifth Champions League, and his third treble. Incredible stuff.
This PL was crazy
we've just never really been the same since then, we should have invested when we won all these trophies, but we didn't and now were unfortunately playing the price
As a liverpool fan, those 11 milimetres haunt me to this day. Every time i watch football, without a doubt I will think about that clearance and what it did.
but I want to add something.
earlier on that season, liverpool faced arsenal at the emirates and drew 1-1. however, sadio mane had a goal ruled as offside near the beginning of the match, and it was CLEARLY onside.
here are the highlights: th-cam.com/video/NaKAIR3RZuE/w-d-xo.html the goal is at 0:10
if that had been correctly given as offside, we wouldnt have been centurions or invincibles no, but anfield would've been able to celebrate the premier league title. something that even when we did win the premier league the next season, didn't happen.
so when the club is in trouble, a 5th place finish and questionable transfer window behaviour, it brings me back to what could've and should've been.
What if Spurs won the 2018/19 UCL,2015/16 and 2016/17 PL and England won the 2018 FIFA WORLD CUP:Maybe Kane could have won the Ballon D'or
Happened again in 21/22 at least we blitzed them in 19/20
What if Kolo Toure didn’t pass the ball to Odemwingie back in 13/14?
Liverpool would’ve won the game
The Gerrard slip wouldn’t have been important
Liverpool would’ve rightfully so won that title.
The Sterling offside goal v City in 13/14. If he hadn’t been wrongly flagged offside and the game ended 2-2 and all other results throughout the season stay the same, then we win the league.
What about Crystanbul?
I think Liverpool 13/14 was like Arsenal last season. They were great to watch but capitulated at the end. Liverpool in 18/19 didnt capitulate.. City were just better. It wasnt handed to City.
@@footballhipstertv even with Crystanbul (which haunts me to this day) if that offside decision against Sterling hadnt be flagged and he had scored, we still would’ve won the league regardless of throwing away the lead against Palace. I definitely do agree that we capitulated tho. We didn’t have enough experience of title races in the squad and our defence was literally diabolical.
The saddest part about that Liverpool 18/19 team is that it gets compared to the arsenal 22/23 team
22/23 arsenal are small fry to that 18/19 liverpool team
Leverkusen triple 2nd place...they only won a uefa cup and dfb pokal. winning a treble and 2 of those titles for the first time ever would have been insane. the team back then was amazing as well. Ramelow, Ballack, Placente, Lucio, Berbatov, Ze Roberto, Schneider and Kirsten(still 7th highest scoring striker in Bundesliga history) and many more.
Liverpool 21/22
Best ever team
Quadruple
But 18/19
Centurions and invincibles if wasn't ever for John stones clearance
What if Roberto Baggio never miss his penalty vs Brazil?
Can you next make a video about Reading's 06/07 season, when last season, they were the first team to ever reach over 100 points and surprised all. Love the content.
being a liverpool fan is not easy
My "what if" is the Arsenal Red card against Barca in the CL. Completely undeserved and most likely lost is the game
2021/22 they were 2 games away froom the quadruple
I heard once a "what if" about the promotion play-off match between Aston Villa and Derby County. Which Derby lost. They argued that if Aston Villa had lost, both clubs' paths might be the opposite from what they are now so Aston Villa would be in League One and Derby in the Premier League.
mine as a villa fan is what if in the villa v sheff utd game a few seasons bck gds was working
My biggest what if is Bolton wanderers got into the champions league and gave Sam allardyce backing and he kept improving Bolton until they won the champions league
Mad that just the season later (a summer window of £7m spent that including Adrian who lost us the cl himself) they went on to have the best pl season ever of covid didn’t happen. Easily would have over 105 points
Liverpool Would of Had 3 Premier league titles (13/14, 18/19, 21/22) but in each season city always got lucky but I doubt Liverpool will win again because the players are getting old and aren't as energetic as they were before. Perhaps a what if is if they won in 2014 Suarez would have stayed at LFC and another is What if Fernando Torres waited one more year? The list of what ifs just goes on and on for liverpool
As a Chelsea supporter, you know what my answer is going to be. John Terry’s pen in 08. But I’m surprised nothing mentioned Kolo Muani just a few months ago in the WC final.
As a United supporter, would’ve loved to see the revenge final in 2009.
An interesting what if for me was in the 19/20 season with the first game back after lockdown. Villa played Sheffield United and and their goal was disallowed due to a Hawkeye error, but if that had gone in, Sheffield United would have finished above Arsenal that season, and Villa would have been relegated
But there’s more. Bournemouth wouldn’t have been relegated if that happened. Because of Bournemouths relegation, Nathan ake left the club for man city. During the 2021/2022 season arsenal was playing a game against man city and Nathan ake made a goal-line clearance. If he didn’t do this the game would’ve ended 2-2 and Liverpool would’ve won the league
Can you make a video about 2011 Barca side or Real Madrids crazy run in 2022 UCL? Thanks love the content
Johnny, Johnmy Stones! 🔊
If Roy Keane never left Ireland in 2002 World cup
My biggest what if is if Gallas goal had been rightly disallowed against the Republic of Ireland after Henry's handball.
18/19. Liverpool were on the verge of greatness and City were losing their edge until the game at the Etihad. The game that ultimately changed the course of the season. Had John Stones not cleared off the line, Liverpool no question wins the Premier League title. At least they got what they wanted the following season.
My biggest 'What if' is simple. If R9 never got injured
My what if moment would be last season Celtics first UCL gams in 5 years against real madrid and we played them off the park for the whole first half and in the 20th minute giakomakius lays it off and Callum Mcgregor smashes it first time from the edge of the box and it rattles the top of the post and goes out that, goal to put us 1-0 up and with a electric Celtic Park our whole UCL campaign could have turned out so much better but along with that and just not being able to take our chances in the UCL last season it cost us and we finished 4th
Awesome
There were a few "What Ifs" that season. CITY away at Anfield 0-0 Mahrez missing a last minute penalty. 1/4 Final of UCL Spurs' handball goal at The Etihad also in the same match Sterlings VAR disallowed last minute "Goal"
oil fan
The offside was correct. Agüero was a yard off in the lead up to the goal
We're so unlucky man 😭
The biggest what if is if the world cup back then used the current system
Liam could you do an investigative video on why LFC have lost not one but two excellent Sports Directors (Michael Edwards and then Julian Ward)? I don't understand it - why did they miss out on the Caicedo transfer?
As a City fan myself, one of my biggest "What If"-s is definitely our 18/19 season. In that season, we ended up winning the Community Shield, Carabao Cup, FA Cup and Premier League too. The reason I'm calling it a "what if" season is because WHAT IF in that Manchester City vs Spurs Champions League 2nd leg match, Sterling's goal wasn't OFFSIDE and that Llorente HANDBALL goal was called HANDBALL instead of being counted, IMO that goal is the sole reason why UEFA changed the HANDBALL rule right afterwards.
Im not trying to sound biased here or anything, but I believe had we made a comeback that night, we would go all the way and win the competition.
Had that happened, City would've won the Domestic & European treble and could potentially sum it up with 7 TROPHIES, because they would also participate in the UEFA Super Cup and FIFA Club World Cup too.
Dead right mate we were robbed but feck it we won the treble and Liverpool fans only have what ifs 😂😂
You would still need to beat Liverpool again
My “what if” is what if players like R9 and Gio dos Santos lived up to their potential. What would’ve changed?
A big "What If" we may need to grapple with *very* soon (and it relates directly to this Liverpool team and season) is, essentially...
"What If" Manchester City doesn't cheat! And for now, I'd ask we just focus on what is *clear and obvious* would've happened! So ruling out cup competitions, because I'm not even going to *try* to predict who would've won in, say, a hypothetical Finals matchup between the team a cheating Man City defeats in the semis and the team a cheating Man City defeated in the final (and you'd have to do that for *every* round and rework the entire tournament bracket to predict something like that). I'm also not going to predict who wins if the 2nd/3rd/4th placed teams are very close in a season Man City won (for example, in Man City's centurion season, 2nd placed Man United and 3rd placed Tottenham are only 4 points apart and only 2 goals apart in goal difference - and if you remove their games against Man City, they're only *one* point apart and Tottenham as the GD lead. That's close enough across 36 matches that no one can definitively say what two more matches against a random hypothetical non-cheating opponent would land in terms of the final title race).
But there *are* certain things we *can* predict with almost absolute certainty! For example, we can say with almost absolute certainty that Man United wins in 2011-2012 if the cheaters weren't there - given that Man United's 89 points (tied with Man City, only losing on GD) was 19 points ahead of the next closest team, Arsenal (with 70 points). And yes, we can *also* almost certainly say Liverpool wins *this* 2018-2019 season's title, given they were 25 points ahead of the next closest team, Chelsea (with 72 points).
But in keeping with the theme of the video, the *known* affects would go *far* beyond that. As stated in the video, Man City handed Liverpool its *only* loss that season! If Man City doesn't cheat, Liverpool almost *certainly* goes undefeated (and in a season they won the PL title *and* the Champions League)! *That* much *is* known!
But I would add *one more* "known" effect. And simply put, I'd say, Liverpool almost *certainly* gets to that 100-point mark if Man City is replaced with *any* hypothetical non-cheating team. And I can sum up why with *this* crazy stat: Liverpool got a *minimum* of *4 points* out of 6 possible from *every* home-and-away PL matchup *except* Man City! Liverpool only got *one* point from *both* matches against Man City (because they drew at home and lost on the road)! Remove the Man City fixtures, and Liverpool got *96* points in their other *36* matches! To reach 100 points in the full 38 games, they'd need only *4* points in the home-and-away fixture against that hypothetical last non-cheating team, and Liverpool had *achieved* that against *every other* team that season! Outside of Man City, Liverpool won *18* of their 19 home fixtures - with *Leicester* being the *only* other team to take points off Liverpool at home (and Liverpool defeated Leicester in the away fixture). All of Liverpool's other draws came *on the road* (and they won their home fixtures against those same teams - again, for a *minimum* of 4 points out of a possible 6 against *every* other team that season). Simply put, Liverpool almost *certainly* gets *a minimum* of 4 points (out of 6 possible) in the overall home-and-away fixtures against a random hypothetical non-cheating team that year (instead of the only 1 they got across both matches against Man City), adding *three more* points to their total *at least,* getting them *to* that 100-point centurion mark to go with their undefeated season, PL title, and Champions League title!
Oh, and add to that that if Man City doesn't cheat, they *also* don't reach that centurion mark the year prior, making Liverpool the *only* team in history who would have achieved that (let alone in a season where they were *also* undefeated *and* won the Champions League)!
Simply put, I believe that the evidence is there that *this* was the greatest English team of all time! It took *literal cheating* to prevent them from going undefeated, reaching 100 points, and winning a PL title *all* in the same year they won the Champions League!
The worst part is that we didn’t even need the 11mil and win the game to do all the stuff you said in the video. If we had drawn we would of done it all as wel
As a Spurs fan my biggest what if is what if we beat Liverpool in the UCL final
I'd say a good shout for What If's is Adriano. He derailed his career (not his fault really, he had personal struggles with external factors, you have to feel for the guy) but he was a B.E.A.S.T when he was firing for Inter, definitely could've won at least a UEFA POTY and a couple of UCLs under the right conditions.
What if Kane scored that pen against France
Mine is what if Schalke won the Bundesliga in 2001. How would history for this historic club play out? Would they still be very much on top 20 years later?
Stole this from Reddit:
“Since 17/18, they’ve won 1 PL, 1 CL, 1 FA Cup, and 1 EFL Cup. That’s very, very good, but, If we change just 4 results, that becomes 3 PLs, 3 CLs, including a 100 point unbeaten season, with a double in 18/19, and quadruple in 21/22. 4 results away from complete immortality.”
Greatest what if is what if Everton weren’t banned from Europe in the 80s
Blackpool in the 2010-2011 season nearly stayed up even though they had a League 1 quality squad.
please do make the 2018/19 champions league video, one of the best champions league seasons ever
This man is criminally underated
STOP
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GLAZING
Robben WC 2010 vs spain (casillas)
Robben WC 2014 vs argentina (mascherano)
Narsingh penalty atletico vs psv last 16 UCL 2016
Are my personal biggest what ifs
W video ❤
Arsenal last year and ten years ago. Also England Euros 2020 (2021)
Hey Vizeh! Just curious if you ever plan on making a video on your feelings/ insights regarding JJ Watt and his wife buying into Burnley and what you think about it. I just watched an interview on them and they seem to be in it for real. Just curious
Listen I get it some English central fans like Premier League the most but they won the Champions League, bigger than the EPL, doesn’t matter if it’s 13 games or whatever it’s still the highest pedigree of Club football in the world.
We shoulda had the quadruple in 2021-2022
#whatif netherlands won the WC in 2010. As a dutchman it still hurts
We wouldn't have got the respect even if we won the 11mm season, we don't even get acknowledged as the most successful club in England now getting back to our perch against City's creative commercial activities...
Mine would be, what if Freddy Adu had progressed the way he should've because if he had maybe that would change the perception of how American footballers are perceived today. Another would be what if the Balon d'Or was actually fair and decided down to individual ability and consistency throughout the footballing season for respective positions...would that put unpopular names in GOAT debates today?