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I LOVE seeing the lesser-known Cosmic characters like Oblivion! I want to see more of The Elders Of The Universe (Whatever happened To The Runner or The Contemplator ?) Firelord, The Stranger, Kronos (The God Of Time .), etc. Hickman, make me proud .
I agree. So many cool godly characters are just being forgotten. Such as scrier, Manthing, the Devine Creator, job Burke, Mr Termineus (who may be part of oblivion), Prodige, The Entity, etc…. The listen could go on.
It’s actually crazy that somewhere in the marvel comics that the one above all can only be harmed by love not the being but they said it was the feeling of love
There are 5 being that represent the 3 faces of the Living Tribunal: Necessity - Eternity (Time & Life) & Infinity (Space) Equity - Galactus Vengeance - Death (Time & Life) & Oblivion (Space) Eternity represents the continuation of life & time, while Death is the end of them. Infinity represents the universe & its expansion, Oblivion represents the void surrounding it & its shrinking.
Nah, the One Above All has been stated to be the creator of everything. Meaning he is the creator of Oblivion. Now the One Below All is the destructive aspect of the One Above All.
No that is incorrect. Didn't you listen to 6:28? No one has created Oblivion. Oblivion(the avatar of his true form) himself even stated that "everything comes from Oblivion's loins".
clearly you dont know what you are talking about and did not watch the video. try again. heres a nice example. I (TOAA) enter the room and want to create a drawing but there is only a table (oblivion). So I (TOAA) put down a blank paper (marvel universe) on the table (Oblivion). Now i draw on the paper (things come into existence inside the multiverse) on the table (Oblivion) Once im done i (TOAA) take my creation (the multiverse and all my creations) i throw it away and leave the room. All thats left is the table (oblivion WHERE IT ALL STARTED)
Oblivion is literally the canvas that the writer wrote on. Only the writer can be above the canvas. TOAA, is made within the canvas. How could he be above? That would make him the writer which he is not. He is the literal end.
I feel like Oblivion is the space or format in which art is conceived. He's the blank piece of paper. He's the empty film reel. He's the fresh wall ready for some paint. He's the blank document.
7:20 - Given that all dimensions in 616 exist inside of either Overspace, the one that most dimensions, including Earth, exist, Microverse & Underspace, the Outer Void seems to be where dimensions that orbit the universe, like the Dark Dimension & Agamotto's Dimension, exist. 9:10 - False! Oblivion is only 1 aspect of the Living Tribunal, 1/2 of Vengeance.
Whats interesting is in my own universe i created, my god of time and space (two gods) are considered the most powerful because Oblivion is just one side of the same coin as time and space. You can think of it as if there is nothing then you have Oblivion, but you can also say there is always time and space so a person can easily say a time and space god will always exist.
@@quentinfogger5755 Good question. Since Oblivion controls the Void, one can argue that Oblivion can use Sentry as a herald and control him. Thing is we just haven't seen this in the comics yet, but sure can happen in my opinion.
I still believe TOAA is THE most powerful. I mean, he is Marvel itself, right? He created Oblivion, the Living Tribunal, Eternity, etc. I don't know. It's the writer behind this comic, but looking at the characters as a whole. There is a hierarchy. Oblivion, according to Variant, is the most powerful among his siblings. I argue that regardless of Tribunal not being able to deal with Oblivion physically, I think TOAA would have no problem since he is omnipotent and omnipresent personified
TOAA created the Marvel Universe within Oblivion. The void is an area of absolute nothingness. No light, sound, height, width, time, space etc. TOAA can't create nothing.
So why doesn't Oblivion take the throne? If the literal God of MARVEL created every character, even Oblivion who is the abstract/construct of nothingness. Look at the power set and tell me otherwise. I personally think he can create nothing. Since nothing had no voice, no body, nothing. The dude literally gave nothing something: a avatar.
@@Hungry_Hungry_Hippo except he did as he’s the writer and we’re watching a video about him being in a comic written by a writer 😂 Like I don’t know why people keep trying to quantify the most powerful being as that automatically makes them not the most powerful 😂
Chaos King oblivion is Beyond powerful he's out of versatile strong he destroyed 98 of the Marvel Multiverse instead of destroying 100% of it wildness chaos King is truly broken with his armies of monster minions
@@ksmikari1045 They did not create Oblivion. Read the comic panels before you spread disinformation. Oblivion secondary form has already stated that "everything comes (or is born) from his loins"
@@Jspore-ip5rkTHE ONE ABOVE ALL IS THE SUPREME CREATOR OF THE ENTIRE MARVEL COLLECTIVE AND EXISTS OUTSIDE OF IT VIEWING EVERYTHING WITHIN AS NOTHING BUT FICTION, this includes the likes of Oblivion who is the concept of nothingness within the verse. Of course this new comic could retcon this but whatever.
About time someone explains him in a clear manor. You CAN’T create nothingness lmao. I swear people are so dumbfounded when It comes to Oblivion. TOAA can’t create nothingness. He was there BEFORE creation an will be AFTER it. Idc what the power scaling is but definitely a good Character!
Ive always thought of Oblivion as being the forces outside of Marvel that are influencing Marvel storylines, so more powerful than the one above all as the one above all represents Marvel writers and editors.
Oblivion is the 3rd most powerful Marvel character. Behind (2nd) The one below all and (1st) The one above all. Or he's the 2nd most powerful, because Toba and Toaa are one being. I want to see all the aspects of Oblivion. I only know 2, Black Winter and Chaos king (Mikaboshi or something, can't pronounce the name). I think Mrs Death (literal death, abstract being and lover of Thanos) is one of his aspects too. But I'm not really sure though
Well i saw a scan of comic where oblivion with living tribunal eternity death and infinity were kneeling down to phoneix force. And fulcrum is the 2nd most powerful being.
I respect and love this channel but you are wrong in several instances. Oblivion first appeared in Iceman Vol.1, #3 of a 4 issue mini-series. That was it's first appearance. 2ndly, Oblivion is Eternity's equal and it's brother. The two cancel each other out in all reality. Same as Infinity and Death do in the same reality.
Oblivion makes no sense to me because concepts cannot die or end unless it’s forgotten so idk how the concepts will die,isn’t everything basically just concepts? Like if oblivion is nothing then there must be a concept a god outside of marvel universe that’s called “something,” it only makes sense that oblivion has an opposite and equal side of him that’s like death and life.
Bets on the other Ur Divisors? Maybe the King in Black, The Pheonix perhaps. Cant be the One Below All as it is literally one aspect of The One Above All. Just maybe the being the represents the cycle that is an ultimate survivor/ destroyer we see in Galactus and Franklin Richards.
Arris, you have great taste in baseball teams. Let's Go, Mets!!! Though I don't necessarily expect the Mets to be a great team this year, the future is bright. Provided Oblivion doesn't destroy existence first, of course.
People who think TOAA is the most powerful character do not know anything about comics. Their ignorance is a headache. Rob from Comics Explained, other well informed comic enthusiasts on TH-cam and finally Variant have confirmed TOAA is not the most powerful character. That title goes to Oblivion, or at least his true form.
It’s not really a matter of ignorance. Which god is most powerful in this instance really depends on your belief system and worldview perspective. Which is what makes it an interesting discussion, and why Marvel has not confirmed the ranking one way or another.
@@variantHere's my take: Oblivion's very nature and what he represents makes him the most powerful character in my eyes. I remember he even states that all of existence stemed from his loins and will eventually return to him. He is nothingness and conversely encompasses everything.
@@sabreeemneelyAnd I don't care about the writers for this particular matter. The very concept of this entity and how powerful his avatars are is enough evidence that he's the most potent being ever.
@Jspore-ip5rk How do you not care about the writers? If it wasn't for them, there would be no books. So they are the ones who decide whose the most "powerful".
There's, no point at all. How, would you add a Lesser physical being in Marvel? Even, Eternity appearing in Thor Love & Thunder is a big thing, which is a universal threat.
What about TOAA ? Because every week we get new most powerful Character Enigma, Oblivion, TOBA and other characters. But isn't TOAA represent the writer so how these character be more powerful than the writer?
Why not just make another back story that the 4 sibling oblivion is just a personification of the main one who is the strongest of above and below all maybe new title one beyond all
This series feels very DC, I guess it’s the very magical aspect of it, I feel dc is more magic while marvel is more scientific, and of course you have your Dr. Stranges and your Cyborgs but idk what it is…rant over ig…
I have a character that I believe is just as powerful. A different kind of power. Evil can not perceive this character. Darksied, The King in Black, Emperor King Doom, Doomsday nor The one below all are capable of attacking this character.
It's simple logic... IF OBLIVION is strongest then he would have been able to prevent ANY and all creation in the first place! I agree he is an omniversal constant and will always exist but he couldn't stop someone from creating life and time! So....
TOAA has some power or influence over Oblivion, but I don't think it's much. I think it's mostly some ability resist the Void trying to crush the universe.
Since you did the history of Midnight Man, Are you going to do history of other Moon Knight villains like Arthur Harrow, Shadow Knight, Bushman, the Zodiac Cartel, Stained Glass Scarlet, Moon_Shade and the Sun-King?
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Well done!
Heck Yeah!
Please do a history of scorpion
It feels like lately there is a new "most powerful" character in Marvel and DC every other month
I feel like it’s been worse with Marvel lately
Oblivion is an old character lol
Oblivion isn't new
@@DesX42SEnigma
This guy doesn't read comics' books!!😂
I LOVE seeing the lesser-known Cosmic characters like Oblivion! I want to see more of The Elders Of The Universe (Whatever happened To The Runner or The Contemplator ?) Firelord, The Stranger, Kronos (The God Of Time .), etc. Hickman, make me proud .
I agree. So many cool godly characters are just being forgotten. Such as scrier, Manthing, the Devine Creator, job Burke, Mr Termineus (who may be part of oblivion), Prodige, The Entity, etc….
The listen could go on.
So if creation turns back to Oblivion at the end of time, does The One Above All also return back to Oblivion?
So he ain't renji's bankai
@@johnlawful2272more like renji bankai is him
Yes
no, oblivion is an aspect of the one above all
@@nesseihtgnay9419No he is not, read the comics before spreading nonsense. Oblivion was present before TOAA created the multiverse.
It’s actually crazy that somewhere in the marvel comics that the one above all can only be harmed by love not the being but they said it was the feeling of love
It's interesting he got his start in an Iceman comic.
Fun fact, The Great Evil Darkness was DC's answer to Oblivion from Marvel.
which came first if I may ask
Do you mean the Great Evil BEAST?
oblivion came first@@emmanuelben1393
Thought Pralaya was?
@@khaosking2937 maybe 🤔, let me research
Marvel sure has a lot of "this person was the first to exist characters" 😅😅😅
Especially lately.
that's what happens when comics that share one continuity are written by 1000 different writers. Tons of inconsistencies
But by changing origin of old characters
The first firmament as well
There are 5 being that represent the 3 faces of the Living Tribunal:
Necessity - Eternity (Time & Life) & Infinity (Space)
Equity - Galactus
Vengeance - Death (Time & Life) & Oblivion (Space)
Eternity represents the continuation of life & time, while Death is the end of them.
Infinity represents the universe & its expansion, Oblivion represents the void surrounding it & its shrinking.
Your actually making this make sense not gonna lie
@@matthew-nz8ky I just do my research and make conclusions based on that.
Always fun to listen to people talk about the Big O.
I still feel like TOAA is still the most powerful. The writers are just adding more stuff.
Lmfaooo
Nah, the One Above All has been stated to be the creator of everything. Meaning he is the creator of Oblivion. Now the One Below All is the destructive aspect of the One Above All.
Facts! 👍👍👍
No that is incorrect. Didn't you listen to 6:28? No one has created Oblivion. Oblivion(the avatar of his true form) himself even stated that "everything comes from Oblivion's loins".
@@Jspore-ip5rkFacts!
clearly you dont know what you are talking about and did not watch the video. try again.
heres a nice example. I (TOAA) enter the room and want to create a drawing but there is only a table (oblivion).
So I (TOAA) put down a blank paper (marvel universe) on the table (Oblivion).
Now i draw on the paper (things come into existence inside the multiverse) on the table (Oblivion)
Once im done i (TOAA) take my creation (the multiverse and all my creations) i throw it away and leave the room. All thats left is the table (oblivion WHERE IT ALL STARTED)
@@ModMonitorWell done.
What would be the antithesis to oblivion? "Possiblity"?
Creation
antithesis to nothingness is simply something or anything.
he is the non-existence so the existence is his opposite.
Infinity is opposing force of Oblivion
anything
TOAA
Oblivion is literally the canvas that the writer wrote on. Only the writer can be above the canvas. TOAA, is made within the canvas. How could he be above? That would make him the writer which he is not. He is the literal end.
I feel like Oblivion is the space or format in which art is conceived. He's the blank piece of paper. He's the empty film reel. He's the fresh wall ready for some paint. He's the blank document.
Good stuff. That’s the wrong Mirage tho. Anybody remember Noprizes?
Why did you never complete this series? I would enjoy a completion of this series.
7:20 - Given that all dimensions in 616 exist inside of either Overspace, the one that most dimensions, including Earth, exist, Microverse & Underspace, the Outer Void seems to be where dimensions that orbit the universe, like the Dark Dimension & Agamotto's Dimension, exist.
9:10 - False! Oblivion is only 1 aspect of the Living Tribunal, 1/2 of Vengeance.
Is the Fimbul Winter/Black Winter an aspect of Oblivion?
You should do a video about the The Many-Angled Ones
Whats interesting is in my own universe i created, my god of time and space (two gods) are considered the most powerful because Oblivion is just one side of the same coin as time and space. You can think of it as if there is nothing then you have Oblivion, but you can also say there is always time and space so a person can easily say a time and space god will always exist.
Yeah and technically Oblivion is an aspect of space since he’s the aspect of nothing being in space
Is oblivion more powerful than sentry?
That's a very good question. One would presume he is way powerful than Sentry, because he controls The Void.
lol. sentry would be like below 1 percent to oblivian.
@@mass-1128I hope so
Could Oblivion use Sentry as a host?
@@quentinfogger5755 Good question. Since Oblivion controls the Void, one can argue that Oblivion can use Sentry as a herald and control him. Thing is we just haven't seen this in the comics yet, but sure can happen in my opinion.
I still believe TOAA is THE most powerful. I mean, he is Marvel itself, right? He created Oblivion, the Living Tribunal, Eternity, etc. I don't know. It's the writer behind this comic, but looking at the characters as a whole. There is a hierarchy. Oblivion, according to Variant, is the most powerful among his siblings. I argue that regardless of Tribunal not being able to deal with Oblivion physically, I think TOAA would have no problem since he is omnipotent and omnipresent personified
TOAA created the Marvel Universe within Oblivion. The void is an area of absolute nothingness. No light, sound, height, width, time, space etc. TOAA can't create nothing.
So why doesn't Oblivion take the throne? If the literal God of MARVEL created every character, even Oblivion who is the abstract/construct of nothingness. Look at the power set and tell me otherwise. I personally think he can create nothing. Since nothing had no voice, no body, nothing. The dude literally gave nothing something: a avatar.
@@Hungry_Hungry_Hippo except he did as he’s the writer and we’re watching a video about him being in a comic written by a writer 😂
Like I don’t know why people keep trying to quantify the most powerful being as that automatically makes them not the most powerful 😂
I agree. How u beat nothing? By making stuff.
Matter can't be destroy ,
I mean, the writer has to have a blank canvas to create stuff. Writer = TOAA, blank canvas = Oblivion. TOAA = W.
Enigma enters chat
He can't affect me
First Firmament : hold my beer
Oblivion was there before it
Chaos King oblivion is Beyond powerful he's out of versatile strong he destroyed 98 of the Marvel Multiverse instead of destroying 100% of it wildness chaos King is truly broken with his armies of monster minions
and the chaos king's power is only a infinitely small slice compared to true oblivion
W keep of good work ❤🎉
The whole point of being TOAA is that there's no one more powerful than you. I don't think that oblivion is more powerful than him.
Toaa/Toba are the most powerfull beings in marvel, they literally created nothingness (oblivion) by giving it a avatar, a voice and free will.
@@ksmikari1045 They did not create Oblivion. Read the comic panels before you spread disinformation. Oblivion secondary form has already stated that "everything comes (or is born) from his loins"
@@Jspore-ip5rkTHE ONE ABOVE ALL IS THE SUPREME CREATOR OF THE ENTIRE MARVEL COLLECTIVE AND EXISTS OUTSIDE OF IT VIEWING EVERYTHING WITHIN AS NOTHING BUT FICTION, this includes the likes of Oblivion who is the concept of nothingness within the verse. Of course this new comic could retcon this but whatever.
The beyonders have killed every cosmic entity except for the one above all. And the one below all.
Wrong
@@shinstorm3473 prove it to me, I'm wrong.
Sure if you have time to go through every marvel comic. I'm retired my pleasure
About time someone explains him in a clear manor. You CAN’T create nothingness lmao. I swear people are so dumbfounded when It comes to Oblivion. TOAA can’t create nothingness. He was there BEFORE creation an will be AFTER it. Idc what the power scaling is but definitely a good Character!
hi.. just wondering who is the very first marvel character? Or who created oblivion?
Oblivion can’t die. Deadpool “hold my forth wall breacking writers pen”
Cringe
Ive always thought of Oblivion as being the forces outside of Marvel that are influencing Marvel storylines, so more powerful than the one above all as the one above all represents Marvel writers and editors.
In the beginning, there was nothing, and in the end, everything will become nothing
How will this affect Void? Can he be used as an Avatar for Oblivion? Void is void right and a void is oblivion.
So nicely Explained..cool
Dope crown 👑 G
Oblivion is Marvel answer to the pen that is One above all. Oblivion is the eraser.
Also does oblivion actually exist in the mini angled one dimension for all the heroes are undead
Oblivion is the 3rd most powerful Marvel character. Behind (2nd) The one below all and (1st) The one above all. Or he's the 2nd most powerful, because Toba and Toaa are one being. I want to see all the aspects of Oblivion. I only know 2, Black Winter and Chaos king (Mikaboshi or something, can't pronounce the name). I think Mrs Death (literal death, abstract being and lover of Thanos) is one of his aspects too. But I'm not really sure though
Well i saw a scan of comic where oblivion with living tribunal eternity death and infinity were kneeling down to phoneix force.
And fulcrum is the 2nd most powerful being.
@@Name-b3z5t wait one below all and fulcrum arent both as aspect of one above all?
Even in the current hulk comics there was a being tht existed before Toaa came the mother of horrors
I respect and love this channel but you are wrong in several instances. Oblivion first appeared in Iceman Vol.1, #3 of a 4 issue mini-series. That was it's first appearance.
2ndly, Oblivion is Eternity's equal and it's brother. The two cancel each other out in all reality. Same as Infinity and Death do in the same reality.
Is Oblivion older than First Firmament?
Yes. He watched the creation of the first firmament. Hence Oblivion birthed it.
Much older
Oblivion makes no sense to me because concepts cannot die or end unless it’s forgotten so idk how the concepts will die,isn’t everything basically just concepts? Like if oblivion is nothing then there must be a concept a god outside of marvel universe that’s called “something,” it only makes sense that oblivion has an opposite and equal side of him that’s like death and life.
Bets on the other Ur Divisors? Maybe the King in Black, The Pheonix perhaps. Cant be the One Below All as it is literally one aspect of The One Above All. Just maybe the being the represents the cycle that is an ultimate survivor/ destroyer we see in Galactus and Franklin Richards.
Arris, you have great taste in baseball teams. Let's Go, Mets!!! Though I don't necessarily expect the Mets to be a great team this year, the future is bright. Provided Oblivion doesn't destroy existence first, of course.
Can we get a Origin of Thunder boy Superman's sidekick. Thank you
People who think TOAA is the most powerful character do not know anything about comics. Their ignorance is a headache. Rob from Comics Explained, other well informed comic enthusiasts on TH-cam and finally Variant have confirmed TOAA is not the most powerful character. That title goes to Oblivion, or at least his true form.
It’s not really a matter of ignorance. Which god is most powerful in this instance really depends on your belief system and worldview perspective. Which is what makes it an interesting discussion, and why Marvel has not confirmed the ranking one way or another.
@@variantHere's my take: Oblivion's very nature and what he represents makes him the most powerful character in my eyes. I remember he even states that all of existence stemed from his loins and will eventually return to him. He is nothingness and conversely encompasses everything.
@@Jspore-ip5rkUnless he's lying. I don't care who the "most powerful" entity is. The writers get to decide.
@@sabreeemneelyAnd I don't care about the writers for this particular matter. The very concept of this entity and how powerful his avatars are is enough evidence that he's the most potent being ever.
@Jspore-ip5rk How do you not care about the writers? If it wasn't for them, there would be no books. So they are the ones who decide whose the most "powerful".
Oblivion predates the existence of the first firnament by FAR
Which country is this?
Okay Oblivion is he the progenitor of knull mentioning he will be here before and after everyone is set an gone
Can you do a how powerful is magneto episode please 🙏?
Premise is similar the American Gods by Neil Gaiman
What would have happened if we saw Oblivion made his MCU debut in the Thor Love And Thunder movie? How do you think he should appear in the MCU?
There's, no point at all. How, would you add a Lesser physical being in Marvel? Even, Eternity appearing in Thor Love & Thunder is a big thing, which is a universal threat.
Who will win
The one below all vs oblivion true form
So who is more powerful?
The Void,
Oblivion,
Knull,
If ghost rider comes in that would be dope
Top 5 MOST POWERFUL COMIC CHARACTERS 1. TOAA 2. Presence 3. Elaine Belloc 4. God Of Stories Loki 5. Oblivion
So is Odin a greater or lesser god?
Lesser
Okay I know everybody mentions Oblivion mistress death and all but why does nobody ever mention Nex the goddess of night
The phenix force should be dominated by oblivion or could be max effective and the only one that can defeat it.
oblivion is an aspect of the one above all
No he is not. That is disinformation
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What about TOAA ? Because every week we get new most powerful Character Enigma, Oblivion, TOBA and other characters. But isn't TOAA represent the writer so how these character be more powerful than the writer?
This was sweet 🎂
Nice
Didn't Oblivion also broke the fourth wall?
Yes he did. He spoke to and threatened the reader lmfao. Dude is extremely broken
Beware oblivion is at hand👏
So would the First Firmament not be stronger?
Not even close
I think Oblivion is also the One Below All
Why not just make another back story that the 4 sibling oblivion is just a personification of the main one who is the strongest of above and below all maybe new title one beyond all
Yup yup
Its the crown now thats top g now
Awesome
Wow ❤
I can’t wait to see the drama oblivion causes
Oblivion is the closest thing Marvel has to DCs/vertigos Endless Death
Probably did create knull
🤩 Damn now that's one overpowered character not even Goku Or Superman could beat anyone like this
Well, He's = to "GOD", but function opposite of "GOD". He wait all thing come to an end, when Beyonder, TLT, & TR Superman dies, they go to Oblivion.
This entity seems like Knull or the Void repackaged.
Nah, he's just Oblivion's cousin.
Both Knull and the Void are avatars of Oblivion, same with the Chaos King
@@tfisepic8373 But, Chaos King is an aspect of Oblivion, not Knull.
Can you do history of the characters mentioned in this video?
Are you going to do history of Oblivion and the other cosmic beings?
Never heard of him.
Yea he’s strong
God Chuck Light, Amara Darkness.
EMPty.
Kerh Amun Ogdoad.
This series feels very DC, I guess it’s the very magical aspect of it, I feel dc is more magic while marvel is more scientific, and of course you have your Dr. Stranges and your Cyborgs but idk what it is…rant over ig…
TOAA, Protege, Beyonder and Living Tribunal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oblivion
Does that make Oblivion Knulls dad
I have a character that I believe is just as powerful. A different kind of power. Evil can not perceive this character. Darksied, The King in Black, Emperor King Doom, Doomsday nor The one below all are capable of attacking this character.
It's simple logic... IF OBLIVION is strongest then he would have been able to prevent ANY and all creation in the first place! I agree he is an omniversal constant and will always exist but he couldn't stop someone from creating life and time! So....
I want to see venom beat null.
Hell yeah
oblivion vs Lucifer
TOAA has some power or influence over Oblivion, but I don't think it's much. I think it's mostly some ability resist the Void trying to crush the universe.
@@cp37373 Any evidence to support your opinion?
Load of infinite BS
Omniscient multiversal story telling hell ya, sounds like life eh?
Since you did the history of Midnight Man, Are you going to do history of other Moon Knight villains like Arthur Harrow, Shadow Knight, Bushman, the Zodiac Cartel, Stained Glass Scarlet, Moon_Shade and the Sun-King?
Hi
You can fill the void.. im just saing
Powers that Be created by the 5th Cosmos.
Natural Order of things created by the 6th Cosmos.
mephistos a God?
It's really lame how Marvel's version of the abrahamic "god" is considered a greater god
Looks like they are finally moving away from that. Has DC yet?