Rappler Talk with Boy Abunda and Xiao Chua: Is history like tsismis?
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More videos on Rappler: www.rappler.co... In this Rappler Talk, celebrity talk show host Boy Abunda and historian and professor Xiao Chua sit down to discuss how tsismis or gossip intersects with history and why people think they can be one and the same. They also tackle how we should see and understand history as Filipinos.
As a treat to viewers, the two personalities also engage in a fun rundown - a la fast talk - of historical events and the gossip or fact that surround these. www.rappler.co... Follow Rappler for the latest news in the Philippines and around the world.
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First Rappler show that deserves to become a series... with Tito Boy who is very objective, same way with Prof Xiao.
Just subscribe to tito bhoy's channel, Yung way of questioning ni bagito ay very manipulative sakin at may gustong puntahan, masosoplak ka talaga pag matalino kausap mo kasi gets nya ang hawi mo.
Therefore history is never tsimis... but sometimes a tsismis could become historical once it can be verified by facts and evidences.
Binawasan mo namn. Wag bawasan ng " like". Kasi tsimis na pag may bawas.
So when verified by facts and evidences becomes a history. Therefore its tsismis first before it became history.
This is such an amazing discussion. I feel impassioned listening and want more. I honor both of the guests and proud of them as Filipinos. It would be nice to have a regular show with both of them - academics and application and do this listnthat Tito Boy has. Lets talk about our history for love of country objectively. So that the young people get a clearer picture of who we really are. Please!
I must say these two has brilliant and beautiful mind. Rappler reporter and staff kudos to your team in guesting them. Your viewers learned a lot po. Salamat🙏🙌🙏
I'm a big fan of tito boy. Napaka unbiased, totoong tao. Galing. 🇵🇭
Maraming PERA Pambili si BBM, hindi lang emotion, ignorance or disinformation!!
Ang sarap kausap si Tito Boy. Full of wisdom and humor. Ginaganahan lahat.
I really like this discussion. Comprehensive and interesting.
Thank you so much Sir Chua for very clear explanation po, looking forward for more lessons about history. Thank you very much Rappler. God Bless po.🙏🇭🇰
If listening to the teaching of Chua's Marcos history, well, not accurate.
@@leomeiales4067 pero historian siya mas may alam siya kesa sayo o sakin diba?
@@gamerchannel8078 Sa history nalang ng mga Marcos ay wala na siya. Sa akin pa kaya o sa 31 m umaprub sa kasaysayan ng mga Marcos. Historian din po ako ng aking mga anak at mga apo.
@@gamerchannel8078 chua. chinese ang historian ng pilipinas?
@@kingsatria6483 chua is his surname but I am sure mas may alam siya sa history ng Pilipinas kesa sayo kasi ang pagiging historian ay inaaral yan at need mo ng napakatinding critical thinking jan
Boy Abunda is a Certified Chismosa by day and a Marcos Apologist by night!
Could not agree more.
@@Johnapacible6352 please elaborate
True that. And Rappler could have used another certified chismoso with integrity.
@@bhavanijaydove8361 maybe that’s the reason why they chose tito boy.
@@bhavanijaydove8361 so dahil hindi umaayon sayo ang opinion nya wala na syang integrity?. uneducated ka naman. Mag aral ka naman wag puro rappler
boy abunda very likeable individual.I HOPE HE CAN CONTINUE .HE IS THE BEST5 OF WHAT HE DOES. NO BIASES.
Sana po may segment tayo na tulad nito na pwede mapanood sa fb, tiktok, at syempre dito YT para ma access ng mga filipino. Mas maganda rin meron din sa mga big stations like GMA, TV5 at abscbn
Oo nga eh, para naman madaming ma engage lalo na mga bata.
Ako, tanders nako.. Wala ng mawawala sakin. Pero, mga bata, madami pang mawawala sa kanila
Such a big revelation for me about Boy Abunda,, someone I USED to respect and admire before bec of intellectual and informative discourses.
Now I know whose side he is in this political discourses, and the fight between good and evil.
Kudos to the Historian and the Rappler, They're the real substance of this talk. show.
I agree. He has his own ulterior motive in doing this interview in my opinion …
So true. M
True
di lang umayon sa gusto nyu yung mga sinasabi nya eh...mga ipokrito..
Parang mga takot kalkalin uli ang history eh, dapat kung alam mo ginawa mong tama ang history kahit saan ka itapon matapang ka dahil me bitbit ka na proof ng katotohanan, magandang debate to pag nag kataon malalaman talaga ang katotohanan!! Cant wait!!😅🍻
I love this discussion in Rappler channel about “Is History like a Chismis” very interesting and very informative make us smart in a ways of many ideas what this topic look like. Thank you Rappler with your extraordinary guest in our country Professor Xiao Chua and Tito Boy Abunda. 💗🙏🏻
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Engaging! Definitely good collaborations between the King of Talk and Mr. Chua. Rappler really gave a good balance with the show. Interesting and nicely done.
Balan! Hahaha! Funded by CIA balan!
Ganito ang mga worth watching na interview.
Worth listening was only mr xiao
No, i think boy abunda has a sense thou xian chua acknowledged the historical distortion🤣✌
@@fernandocruz4877 yes in a sense but i did not agree his final statement
I really admired Tito Boy Abunda,Balanse sya at very professional s lahat ng kanyang ini interview plus he has Respect s mga taong iniinterview nia....💕
This is an educational and smooth conversations... God bless Philippines and all the academic people especially the historians!
Boy Abunda you’re the best to expound Tsismis & History 👏 👏👏👏👏👏👏
Kelangan tlaga siguro irevisit yung history natin. Kasi parang partly tama si Ella. Shoutout kay ella she has become instrumental to a very important discussion.
True, I myself , before the election. I did not focus myself sa one side lang, but nag reresearch ako both sides. Pinagtitimbang ang both sides
Agree!!!
pupusta ako dito meron nanamang mag tatake out of context and nit picking, hindi mo maiintindihan yung point of view nila if pipiliin mo lang yung gusto mo pakinggan i just hope the viewers take this as a whole
You cannot control how other people think and talk coz of a lot of factors.
If one is educated MOST LIKELY ( see, I didn't type ALL) the person will listen to both sides but bear in mind other people have other viewpoints, too, albeit educated or not.
Before I thought, communication is the very important key to understand each person but I realized every time, it is one's ability to listen that makes a difference. One can communicate he/she all he/she wants but if the other person won't listen to you, then every word has no meaning. 😉
Napakagandang segment nito. Sana ituloy tuloy ng rappler. napka simple, nag kkwentuhan sa canteen hahahah
Isa lang masasabi ko I’m not invalidating lahat ng nagawang mali ni FEM. pero napaka injustice naman for FEM na sasabihing wla siyang nagawang maganda sa ating bansa
1st term marami talaga nung 2nd term at nung martial law era dun na nagloko
@@don_2755 That's it... timeline is the answer.
He was punished due to the wrong things he did, not because of injustice. History helps us understand what we must avoid to repeat from past's mistake. I don't believe the "nagawang maganda,"whatever it is, was not included in the history. All projects signed by FEM will always be there. The nation's debt during his term went to his projects and his pocket at the same time. Nutribun and Australian aid which was supposed to be completely free was used by LGUs to be people's income from making roads or other works. People just doesn't want to accept they were victims of corruption and they do not know how to change that. After all, after FEM, people still voted Cory, Erap and FPJ for president although having no background or knowledge about politics. Even senatorial elections, people think popularity and color matters.
@@arinix3618 legit
Tito Boy has always been objective in his judgments. I couldn't agree more with his statement that we have to listen to both sides of the story.
Thats what I did, before the election, I research both sides myself and I found out there is something wrong and right between 2 SIDES. Tito Boy was Indeed right.
He was very objective in different issue kase almost lahat ng bagay na yon is controversial and naipapakalat ng mali kaya he was very objective para malaman natin kung ano ang tama at mali in that certain issue
Wow! Indeed, this is a very meaningful conversation! Sana ay mas marami pang ganitong pag-uusap sa pagitan ng mga katulad nating Pilipino/Pilipina. Maraming salamat Rappler, Professor Xiao at Sir Boy sa isang maliwanag at makabuluhang talakayan tungkol sa napapanahong mga isyu. Mabuhay po kayo! Ang pagpapala ng Katotohanan ang nawa'y manahan sa bawat isa sa atin.
These are the people who should be listened to. Apart from having a name, they have credibility.
Thanks Professor Chua!
"The majority is always wrong: the minority is rarely right". - Henrik Ibsen
This Rappler Talk is very interesting especially with two of my favorite personalities as guests. These two are both astute and very knowledgeable of history . It's indeed very interesting to hear the truth or half truth or tsismis from two very fair interviewees. I hope I get to listen and watch more vlogs like this.
the caption is interesting even though we know that RAPPLER is the least trusted media its a fact
@@shunraico1037 least trusted but still credible.
I love this discussion. It was more than an hour long but I felt engaged the whole time. Both sides were well argued but at the same time, there was no hostility or rudeness. Both speakers are knowledgeable and facilitator did not interrupt unnecessarily or show any obvious sides.
This very conversation is exactly where the problem lies, notice Chismis abunda speaks more than Historian Chua should. #irony
Di nanaman kase pasok sa narratives nyo e. Iyak
Boy Abunda, mahirap pagkatiwalaan kapag history ang pinag-usapan dahil sa buong buhay nya tsismis ang pinagkakaabalahan niya.
agree..i use to like boy abunda but not anymore,there were part na biased siya cuz he is a manager of toni g. and mariel which happen to be the wife of robin..chismis is chismis and history is a history bcuz there's evidence or proof for the fact.
You have a point there. So maybe we should not rely in trust and discover the truth by trying to be more open minded.
I love the spirited discussion. Bright are Prof. Xiao and Tito Boy. Walang nagmura. Walang nagbastusan. Masayang talakayan lang.
I hope Rappler and the rest of the kakampinks will absorb what Boy Abunda have said - that we should widen our perspective and make the ML narrative more comprehensive instead of just looking at the one angle we were born to believe. Boy Abunda slayed the discussion. I wonder if how Pia or Rambo would handle this interview - baka nastroke. Charengg
True hahaha. Yan ang hindi biased sinasabi nya kung ano ang dapat baguhin sa kanilang sistema. Masyado silang naging arrogant kaya ayun talo manok nila hehehe. Anyways bala kau jan mga kakampwet mag dalamhati hanggang gusto nyo bwahahaha babush
ANG GANDA NAEEDUCATE TYO BOTH PARTIES THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY WALA NMAN TYONG PINAAAWAYAN!TOPICS OR ISSUES THAT WE CAN LEARN AND BE CORRECTED AT SA ULI...PILIPINO TYONG LAHAT,TUNAY NA TUNAY!
Apologist should do the same then.
@@ronalynpiano2705 LOL. U just missed the whole point of conversation then.
@@dakilangduca namiss mo rin. Lol
Historians and tsismosas are just the same they are good story tellers it's up for them of how they interpret and research on the topic
I agree
You all did a wonderful job here!
Ilaban Ang kasaysayan Professor Chua!
Boy Abunda is good story teller adept with oral and written skills in narrating important or trivial things.
So ayun na nga, ika nga ni Dan Brown “a widespread acceptance of an idea is not proof of its validity” dapat di lang si marites paniwalaan, mag fact check ka.
Love this discussions, sana may tuloy2x tung mga ganito.
Boy is not a historian, but a gossip expert.
Exactly why he was there. He gives the perspective of tsismis and its possible relation to history. Even the historian agrees with some of Boy's point.
@@jasvex but he should have not said “ tsismis is part of history.”
Saket?😂😂😂
sana me tv program na tulad nito. solid informative.
That's right Tito Boy,more than 30years na walang nangyari sa Pilipinas kya my doubt sa isipan ng karamihan kung bkit noong panahon ng pamumuno niPFEM ay maganda ang buhay sagana sa pgkain napakaraming nagawang project pero noong panahon ni Cory bumagsak ang ekonomia walng magagandang project na nagawa shortage sa pagkain at kung anu ano pa! Kya ms magandang bumalik sa mga Marcos nlng
In 20 years ba namang umupo si FEM in power pag wala pa cyang nagawa ewan ko nalang. 20years vs 6 years sa mga sumunod na presidente. C'mon simple logic para magkumparahan ng mga ginawa. Bagsak ang ekonomiya natin as per record dahil sa laki ng foreign debts natin noon because of the graft and corruption cases of the Marcoses according to news and it is documented kaya nga may mga kaso sila hanggang ngaun dinidinig pa di ba? So I think kahit sing talino pa ni Rizal ang iluklok mo as President, aba e milagro kung mapaunlad nya kaagad ang Pilipinas! Kung may sumunod na presidente after Marcos na napaunlad kaagad ang Pilipinas then maybe isang cyang God! So don't ever compare what Marcos did when he was the president vs the other presidents after him. Konting common sense naman please.
Boy Abunda is more credible than the historian! I salute you Mr. Abunda!!!
Agree!
Credible Tito Boy! Matalinong tao at disente yan
Buti nman na educate mo ang nagtatanong and watching as well.
Very well explained. Hindi nka arangkada ang nagtatanong.
Pngbigyn lng c boy mgtanong for courtesy sake in fairness to the host. Boy should have not done that. It was not his shoe
@@Johnapacible6352 naisahan cla ni boy pra ndi nila mamanipulate ang tanong to bring us to being brainwash again. Kung ndi tnanong ni boy un ttanungin ng host un. Novato ung host!😆😅😂😍
Best content of the year! Ang dami ko natutunan galing sa reliable sources. Matalino at tapat ang talakayan pati yun iba't ibang klase ng Chismis nalaman natin. Thank you Rappler for this video. More content like this please.
Boy Abunda is very intelligent, well-read on both past and current events, and very interesting.
well, he tries to be 😂
@@isabellapineda139 Kakampink ako pero look at you, you act like a bbm troll now
Interesting ..Nawa’y magkaron Pa ng mga ganitong pag uusap lalo na sa histories 🥹😇😊
History is never like chismiss. History is based on facts. Kaya nga nsging kasaysayan.Chimiss is like making stories .
Simula palang natatawa nako sa magandang usapan at paglilinaw ng dalawang salita...
Salute Mr Boy Abunda for an intelligently fair discussion. Mr Xiao Chua I suggest some of your sources should be verified due to credibility reasons for you not to be fact checked by critical netizens.
Nice discussion from two learned guests. Kudos to the host for handling it well.
Thank you! :)
History should be analyzed. History should be discussed through evidences. Kudos to Prof. Xiao. History should be discussed the way Prof Xiao does.
Kudos to the guests…I can see they tried their best to be clear with their stand on this particular issue…and their willingness to bring the discouse to a higher level…times are changing…sana we can have a better understanding and a more objective assessments in the events in our history basta magkaroon ng open mind and lahat…
salamat po Prof. Chua, Mabuhay ang mga Historiador
Ang kasaysayan talaga ay my saysay. Ganda pakinggan
This was so good
Very well explained about TSISMIS tito Boy..
Love it nung may shade si prof. Chua nung tinuro niya si boy at sarili niya then "chismis at history ba ito" HAHAHAHA
History is always a fact / evidence-based science while tsismis/gossip is not fact/evidence-based, but once there are evidences that will support the story, then it is no longer a gossip... it is now part of the history.
I disagree - May history na pinalobong katotohanan gaya ng interview ni Maria Ressa na siabi niyang 11M daw ang nawalan ng trabaho nang ipinasara ang ABSCBN.
If the facts are biased, then history based on those facts becomes biased.
Hindi naman history yun. Interview naman yun. Sarili nyang kwento yon. Magkaiba ang interview sa history. Hay naku may masabi lang.
But not all history is a complete narrative, lalo na kung one side lang ang pinagkuhanan mo ng data. Parang sa investigation lng yan hindi lang kuwento ng biktima ang pakikinggan mo, pakikinggan mo din istorya ng kriminal then tiyaka ka magsasaliksik ng mga ebidensiya at mga saksi kung meron man.
@@edwinpamanian21 'The past' is completed and can never be changed, but 'history' is the ongoing discussion of trying to explain the past and is open to change and revision. 'History' relies upon what we know about 'the past', and this is dependent on the evidence available.
We have to understand that tsismis brought life in the study of history for example Apolinario Mabini being accused with syphilis that made paralyzed. Andres Bonifacio being known for his knowledge in several languages like French and Spanish etc and in reality carrying a revolver most of the time unlike being projected in our history textbooks who uses bolo. Cory Aquino as a Dictator when she called for a Revolutionary Government for a year when we already had an existing Congress, Supreme Court and LGUs. However she decided to cancel them and appointed officials while preparing for changing the Constitution.
Yess! Emotional vote - no need for rhyme nor reason. This is what will give our country glory.
I only can tell my story during the Marcos era. If some experienced hell during that time, that's their story. We need to tell both sides, the good and bad. It;s a ying & yang.
Tama po kayo jan..😃
Question is...what were you doing then? Have you experienced repression when you took action/redress against it? If you did and never gone to jail, then you were the lucky ones. 😌
Question is...what were you doing then? Have you experienced repression when you took action/redress against it? If you did and never gone to jail, then you were the lucky ones. 😌
galing ni boy abunda magpaliwanag. nakakabilib.
sana magkaron ng part 2 ito.
this is my 2nd time to watch this.
Boy... thank you. As John Green said: we study history to understand our past and make decisions for our future because WE all make history. The real question that should have been asked is: has our history been tsismis? Ang gusto ko Kay kuya boy ay ang kanyang objectivity. Despite na kaibigan Niya si Kris he managed to conduct a decent interview to all of the candidates especially Marcos. Si Boy Abunda ay may malawak na pagunawa sa problema ng ating paglahad ng history. Ayoko Kay professor Ciao kasi may pagka elitista Kung makaasta. Maraming nanahimik na mananakiksik tungkol sa world war 2 na hindi pinaboran ng mga preliminary universities natin dahil macocontest ang pride ng mga tenured historians natin. Isang example na diyan ang pagsaliksik ng Isang babaeng researcher sa mga totoong prayoridad ng USA sa paglupig ng pagsakop ng mga hapon sa Pinas. Palpak ang misyon ng America dahil unang una 2 ang war fronts ng USA noon. Priority nila ang Europe. Pangalawa ay pinadala si McArthur na Isang general na promote dahil sa family connections lang. itinago at nagsinungaling ang mga Amerikano sa firepower na kaya nilang iabot sa atin. Si McArthur underestimate Niya mga hapon, sinalaula ang 10 taong paghahanda laban sa hapon at nung andiyan na mga hapon... anak ng tokwa tumakbo sa Australia, iniwan ang buong fleet at ang kanyang second in command ang sumama sa ating mga kawal sa death March... 😢 Hindi ito sinaad sa ating mga textbooks. May rebulto pa si MacArthur Jan sa Koregidor. So Tama yung bata. Yung tsismis na hero si MacArthur... Naging history.
For an hour-long of discussion, I thoroughly understand the importance of credibility when gathering sources. It is also encouraged us as a nation, to work together to reveal what is the truth behind events and always consider scrutinizing the sources before claiming that it happens.
Maraming salamat Sir Xiao Chua. Mabuhay kayo.
Why does boy abunda keep on trying to defend ella cruz being only a “kid” and not acknowledging the fact that every public figure should be accountable for his/her actions
Boy Abunda is Marcos supporter.
Yes, boy abunda is a Marcos supporter
that’s a shame. I feel sorry for Kris Aquino who considered him as her bestfriend for too many years only for him to support the family that constantly inflicts pain and suffering upon her and her causes.
Boy Abunda had a point, he’s being objective.
And Xiao Chua (if you watch the whole video)na mismo ang may sabi na d nmn masyadong harmful yung sinabi ni Ella Cruz, kung hihimayin mo yung statement niya.
Kakampink ako.
We were wrong to judge to early
@@jairehedselvillapando2110 I agree. There is nothing wrong with her statement since history is simply verified chismis.
The point though is, is her questionable intention behind releasing this comment since she is to star in a film that is known to promote disinformation and history revisionism.
And to counter the backlash with showbiz drama and her being just a “kid” just doesn’t make sense. She’s an adult and should be called out and questioned for her actions and intentions, just like everybody else.
Fyi Mr. Boy abunda talk more sense & well explained. 👍👍👍
Good job Tito Boy Abunda. Very smart and intelligent conversation.
On point! Very informative! 👏👏
Si Sir Boy po is Marcos Loyalist po.
Kc nabuhay c boy nung pnahon ni marcos. Living witness sya s panahon n un. C xiao uhugin p yn nung pnahon ni marcos. C boy rational yn kc nbuhay sya sa pareho pnahon ni marcos at aquino. Kung ngawa lng mgnda aquino at umunlad ang bayan, bk skli p kso ndi lalo lumala at nsalaula bayan. brain washer mga dilawan!
Di naman porket loyalit makitid na utak. May tama naman kasi sya
I salute you mr xiao. I am disappointed eith what boy said in his final statement that tsismis is part of hidtory.
Tanong mo ke Lourde, tsimis nun history ngayun😂🤣
@@fernandocruz4877 sino c lourde,
@@Johnapacible6352 c lourd de vera. My tv series sa tv5, un ang title.
@@fernandocruz4877 no need, d nmn sya historian, troll un
Further if tsismis is part of history then it is very unfsir to all historians who are presenting us with facts. Pinghirapan nila yun. If there is some addtl info later on to revise it then it is fine but we never say that is tsismis.
OMG never akong makinig ng discussion, Soo amazing both of you 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 thanks 🙏🏽 ❤️
Ang Ganda Ng pag ka explained..mas malinaw pa sa tubig.
Kudos kay xiao and boy abunda sarap makinig sa mga taong matalino na tulad ninyo
So excited when I saw Prof Xiao so I immediately watch this vid. But hearing the thoughts of Sir Boy is kind of refreshing. I don't know why there are other people discrediting him. He may be associated to chismis pero kung iisipin, he has been a very good example of a data gatherer (in research) kung isinulat niya ang mga interview nya it would have been a qualitative research. Maybe instead of denying it, we should take a closer look at it. Study it and be as objective as possible. Maybe a part of an undisclosed history will be revealed (just my opinion).
I also like the professionalism of the moderator. There should be more vids like this❤️
I love the show - Sir host, review mo itong show na ito, you certainly can propel your IS to the next level.
Gotcha!
Totoo ang.point ni boy abunda..i salute you.i respect you.
Boy Abunda cannot hide his being a Marcos loyalist
Totoo naman din ang sinasabi nya lmao
Xiao cannot hide his being a Anti marcos. patas lng..
Yes he is a Marcos supporter but totoo sinasabi niya
Watching from California. I'm so proud of you guys. Maski napuyatan ako ngayong gabi i really focused to listen to your topics at marami akong natutunan though marami din akong nabasa, narinig at nalalaman sa katotohanan. ipagpatuloy nyo po at aabangan ko uli kahit anong topic dahil gusto ko kayo. Mabuhay mga kababayan🇵🇭🙏🇵🇭
A very good conversation
Mas credible ang rappler so smart
Will this be a regular thing it’s nice to listen to
If it's tsismis, it's not history as history is based on facts of actual events. Tsismis of actual events is just that - tsismis or speculations, may be true or completely made-up so it's unreliable information
It’s just either history or tsismis
This is just an opinion
👁👁🧐
Maboboo mo Ang history sa pakikipagtaimisan sa source mo..nga history
Finally I can say the most balanced content from Rappler. We can see the contradiction on both ends but delivered in a very intelligent and professional manner. Kung marami pa kayong mga ganito sana, mas exciting. Kudos to Rappler for this one! 👏👏
Absolutely right sir Abunda
Agree!!!!
galing ni sir Xiao da best
At last Rappler is able to produce an open round table discussion one can listen to...
what brilliant talk..brained and experienced when collided..always clarifies the issues👍👏👏
Pls have it on podcast
Resource person si Boy. His not the host. But he is dirrcting the discusion
Ang sarap panuorin pls. Rappler more content like this.
magandang talakayan, very informative
A very good conversation. It tickled my brain.
ang galing ni boy abunda, mas humanga ako sa kanya kaysa kay Xiao, ang galing magpaliwanag 😄 fan na ako, i love boy abunda
Boy abunda is tagged as king of talk. Malamang magaling sya magsalita. Pero no wag mo syang ikumpara kay prof xiao na inaral ang kasaysayan.
@@marielmelquiades7827
mas magaling si Boy Abunda. Period. Sa kanya ako naliwanagan. Kung Prof ko siya sa college, malamang fav. teacher ko siya at malaki grades ko ❤️
Happy to open this discussions. Now I know they are trying to use trolls, media influencer and media propagandist to make the history like tsismis lang.
Boy Abunda is auditioning for a post in this administration. He clearly is a Marcos apologist.
Thank you at least maliwanagan Ang bawat pilipino
So impressed of tito Boy.... Accepted such humble setting despite his status in life... 👏👏👏
In the first place he should not be guested in this discusdion. He foesnt know what hes tslking.