Big Jay Oakerson: Anxiety Ridden Time Bomb Of Self Loathing | Ari Shaffir's Skeptic Tank Episode 429
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 มิ.ย. 2021
- Standup comedian and host of The Bonfire and Legion of Skanks (in that order) Big Jay Oakerson talks about his struggle with anxiety disorder with comedian and host of nothing Ari Shaffir. Jay really went through it, man. He was fine and then one afternoon, he wasn’t. He couldn’t breathe, he couldn’t think straight, and the walls started crashing in. Ari has always been intrigued by mental disorders and this is the first time he has been able to really take a deep dive into anxiety. It was a very revealing and interesting discussion.
I’ve known Big Jay for a long time. We became really good friends when we did the Nasty Show in Montreal together for two weeks with Jeff Ross and Anthony Jeselnick. We would all hang out and smoke pot for hours and just shoot the shit. It was a great, great time. Am I still friends with Jay? 6 months ago it woulda been an easy answer: Yes, I’m friends with Big Jay Oakerson. But today after finding out that he considers Avenged 7evenfold his all-time favorite band, I’m not so sure.
Check out Big Jay Oakerson every week on the Legion of Skanks podcast. Ari Shaffir is the President of that podcast. Shane Gillis is the Vice President. Big Jay holds no office.
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CHAPTERS:
00:21 - Ari Shaffir Owns This Song
01:02 - Intro
29:39 - Commercial Break
32:55 - Ari Shaffir's Skeptic Tank Episode 429 Starts Now!
02:08:33 - This Song Is Owned By Ari Shaffir
02:09:09 - Outtro
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For more Big Jay:
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Editing: Marisa Pellegrino - @marisa_pellegrino
Episode artwork photoshop: Steve Torelli - @torellipics
Music: "Ari Shaffir Owns This Song"
Vocals: Raelyn Nelson @Raelyn Nelson Band
Written by: Pepper Goins - Rushmore Podcast
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Lots of love
Tell Jay that he didn't experience the full effects of LSD exposure from your trap because the Lexapro chemical and its vast buildup in the brain very seriously renders many of the most common, and most commonly exploited, neurotransmitter levels, functions, and junction activities very closely controlled and essentially inert.
A standard dose of psychedelics / hallucinagens for individuals recently exposed to antidepressants in even small quantities (let alone large ones like with Jay's chronic buildup) is almost always completely or partially disaffected and completely powerless and useless.
Similar effects of blockages are common with the chemicals found in "molly" (i.e. MDMA, MDA, MDMC, etc.) So Jay inherently requires more Molly to adjust his neurotransmitter ratio such that he approaches the effects of empathogens or entactogens. And he never experiences the full effects; hence his desire to use compulsively and his ability to avoid or recover from the post-session depression and brain drain.
Ultimately, you could call this Lexapro impairment a shield. Or you could call it a waste of fun with chemicals. You decide.
-Top 1% of my graduating class:
Enrolled in the world's absolute premier (or runner-up ranking depending on the year) graduate institution for neuropsychology, biochemistry, organic chemistry, abnormal psychology, psychometrics, Psychiatrics, Medical Schooling, Medical Research, University, Corporate, and Classified Public Laboratory Institution Experience, Real-world Application of the Sciences, etc.
-Firsthand experience with chemical exposure experiences for over a decade.
-Undergraduate, Graduate, and Post-Graduate Doctorate Research, Education and Professorial experience exceeding ten years.
-Similar experience of fandom of LoS (~10 years).
-Lifetime fan of comedy - Including George Carlin HBO Specials at age 3 (that I know of, maybe earlier) and George Carlin narrating Thomas the Tank Engine tapes since my first weeks of life; well before my first birthday.
Obviously I digress... The takeaway is that you have a world-class professional, as well as recreational, Neuropsychology and Biochemistry professor and doctor in your corner, and your content is definitely funny. Keep up with the good times Ari; hopefully our paths will cross soon. I'll think about bringing... Er, "showing" you "info on" some exotic samples. Only if you're interested, of course.
Until then... Xanax, Valium, Methadone, and Fentanyl to feel better and have fun; Soma to relax the muscles; a bit of Adderall and Dexedrine to go to sleep (yes this is the correct order); and a few more secrets to keep me busy.…
...Stay safe, yeah?
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@@sephiroth2847 While true, he talks about dropping mushrooms with Luis and Dave before he was on Anti-Depressants, having no effects. He also uses molly regularly while on AD and it works (MDMA is dulled by AD also). People are effected diffrently by diffrent drugs, e.g. I've never had visual effects on halluciogens, only auditory.
Hi Ari
The Big Jay pods are some of my favorites
Jay is the best
Best storyteller in the game don’t @ me
Everything with Big Jay is my favourite
Big Jay for president
This was a great episode, it definitely helps hearing people open up about these struggles.
@@AgendaInMind did you read that or just copy and paste it
@@kmdudich lol
Man dude ima glad i clicked on this podcast cause ive been feeling like jay for about a year now and i could never pinpoint why. Thank god you guys talked about this.
never heard someone have same issues as me glad he knows himself so well helps me a lot ty
Same glad to know im not the only one ha were not alone
You have the running up stairs thing to thats me as fuck haha
Big Jay is one of the best. So relatable. So funny.
Jay's description of anxiety like being terrified of dying so you know when those weird self-loathing thoughts arise, its a brain fart" is unreal dude. Helps a lot.
That was the best 20-something minute "Better Help" ad ever
Looks like Ari lives in the Ghostbusters basement where they keep the containment system.
Im so glad someone else thought the same 😂
And he's a pencil neck too
They're at Jay & Christine's in this one; but, you're right about Ari's place.
I'm gonna do so many more intros in this place! As soon as I found it I was like, "This is a perfect moronic spot to record."
Holy shit. You nailed it
Anxiety attack feels like dying. Ive been very catastrophically high on all sorts of drugs and anxiety attack is the wildest shit by a mile
Yo a high anxiety attack is no fun..
Yeah it's almost like ego death, fuck that shit.
This ep. should be titled Dudes taking drugs like theres no tomm. and wonder why they have mental issues.
@@nyuzoo ari had issues before all of his drug use.
Am I the only one who walks around singing This Song Is Owned By Ari Shaffir all day? Cause it gets in there and I bop to it for days....
You are not. That song is so catchy I'll have it stuck in my head until at least Wednesday.
Reminds me of the song on euro trip “Scotty doesn’t know “
Days later it'll pop in my head & I'll catch myself singing it...d'oh, got me again Ari!
I've finally learned to skip it otherwise it's 2 days of the jingle in my head.
Two of the All Stars right here.
this just made me feel so much better i’ve never listened to big jay but hearing him talk about this just made me feel okay, i’ve had these exact feelings for years i thought i was literally out of my mind 😂
thank u for this discussion. u comedians help me 24/7 when i listen to ur podcasts
Just saw Big Jay in Indianapolis this past weekend!! He killed on that stage for the entire time he was up there...truly!
👏✊⭐️🥳🤣🤣🙌
Hard to believe someone who can kill on stage like that can also feel anxiety ... you would not have never known other wise.🤔
Thanks for sharing your experience, Big Jay!! You are not alone.👊💕
Thank you for being so open. You are amazing.
Ari's had some fantastic podcasts dealing with depression and mental illness. His episode with Brodie while he was going through his manic episode is legendary. RIP.
This intro is exactly what I needed to hear right now. Funny how that works.
Always nice to start with a new special at the beginning of every episode
Jay's 4some story on This is not happening is legendary.
Jay was person 1,2 @3 in that scenario
Bacon cheeseburger! That's what I'm gettin!
holy shit.. I started lexapro during this bs and it is a real game changer... symptoms exactly the same as big J. thanks for sharing dude glad it's not just me!
Hell yea, Tons of Anarchy, and the Jew King it’s a must watch!
Great work!
yo i love this real talk shit it's exactly what i needed but didn't realize lol
I've recently started taking Lexapro too and it's helped so much
Ari is so slept on. These are amazing
Can you just tell like 3 or 4 million people to subscribe and listen?
@@arishaffir wish I could man, I'll do my part though!!
@@arishaffir lol ari
It was cute when Big Jay had no hesitation checking his buddy for ticks. Lol
Thanx Dudes and Crewz
Great day for podcasts today! Mondays rule.
Loved this episode. Definitely have had the same issues as Jay has and this is literally the only time I’ve ever heard someone describe exactly what I’ve dealt with. Bravo 👏🏼
Love big Jay I've battled depression for 20+ years. It's hard to do what hes doing. I bury it because I'm irish.
Same
Great ep!
Thanks man...I needed this more than I can express
Hang in there dawg
I go oh VM VM B no o
Needed this 😢
Wow... another clue to help me figure these weird symptoms out. Thx for doing this ep big J and Ari 🙏 like it's crazy how relative this is. Big J or anyone if you have this issue like the heart attack/ passing out feeling get your spine looked at, it relieves the symptoms for me at least if I massage/ stretch back. In the process of getting looked at by docs rn. My blood tests were fine, physical, x ray mri next 👍
Or get Lexapro I guess haha I'm gonna try alternatives
Interesting episode. FYI, regarding the 2 min convo starting at 1:50:28 , Lexapro (escitalopram) which Jay says he takes is used as both an antidepressant and an anti-anxiety med. It's a depression med that also treats anxiety. Viva la harm reduction! thank you erowid etc
That shits not safe to mix SSRIs with MDMA, you could get serotonin syndrome.
Dont give up the fight 🎶
Great episode
Ive been getting really bad anxiety lately for the first time in my life. Im 38 years old and never had any issues. Now especially when im at the grocery store i kinda start to freak out in my own head. Its really weird. It feels like im getting a adrenaline rush out of nowhere. My freiends and family tell me to go see a Dr. And take antidepressants. But im not depressed and dont wanna get on some kinda drug. I feel really helpless which i think is making it worse. Nice to get this off my chest.
Prescribing SSRI’s for anxiety is common. They may not work for you but they might help take the edge off. I got put on Zoloft for my anxiety but I didn’t like it, made me very monotone and zombie-like.
@@Scoobay im thinking about trying lexapro
Favorite intro song of all time lmao
much love Ari and Big Jay, really loved this episode. could def hear more on this topic
Damn..Thank you.
Ari is such a good host, letting Jay talk uninterrupted. Still throwing in some jabs here and there. Love these Jews ❤️
I've been waiting on a Big J with you for some time.
How fitting, Jay's favorite movie is the devils rejects and ari looks like sid Haig
Dude that story you told about having a job then getting a new better one, rang so fucking true dude. Thanks ari
Anxiety sucks. I randomly stress about stupid shit that happened 25 years ago
Love you guys
That jab at Jeselnik during the mushroom shirt ad was great
This just in: Edgy comedian moves to LA and becomes politically correct douche.
Anxiety is hard. Got through it now but it really dictated my life for a few years.
1:42:52 lol jays answer and head shake were so real
Ari rules!
I have tickets for OKC. 😀
The Alien movie was Alien Resurrection. I think it's from '97. Came at a time of effects really enhancing movies. The last alien monster in it really freaked me out as a kid.
Thanks Ari 🤘
Jesus christ your intros are like podcasts on their own. Love it.
Way too long lol
I hate it.
"it was like a witch cursed his leg" lmao love you ari. This podcast is great
dope intro!
From Wikipedia
A commonly held but erroneous notion is that Ancient Romans designated spaces called vomitoria for the purpose of literal vomiting, as part of a binge and purge cycle.
" who the fuck would want a kid " lmaoooo I love Ari
This podcast has to have the best format
"Wrong Side of History" was the best.
Unreal jay just how many people have this same thing happen to them and never speak of it.
Big Jay is like a 14 year old emo girl, if her parents fed her Denny's breakfasts for every meal since birth.
Not that there's anything wrong with that
And a pack of spirits
So a 14 year old emo girl?.
Yup it's funny how everyone is a couple deadlifts away from not caring about any of this shit, but they will never happen.
Lmfao very true, but comments like this are probably the reason why jay is the way he is lmfao. It’s a vicious cycle. In a society, that demands perfection…. And so on.
That room in the intro reminds me of Die hard 2
LOVE YOU ARI!!!!!!!!!!!!
01:51:10 Yep.
Jay Rocks
Man I gotta get to one of Ari's shows.. never been to a comedy show before.. man I gotta go check an see where the closest show is to me this summer
I can't sleep unless it's silent (excluding white noise) and dark. My dad beat that out of me, but my anxiety pops in other ways, mostly in my night terrors.
Lol so weird I live on long island and I'm moving to SeaTac tomorrow. I'll be staying at my cousin's then I want to make it to Spokane. And you mentioned all three 🛸
That's so fucked. He was willing to give up cause his therapist gave up on him. That had to be a terrible feeling. Smh
It's so hard to find the right pairing.
.....shrooms legit saved my life after the military. A Marine buddy of mine said, "eating a mushroom is a hell of a lot better for your brain, than eating a bullet".
Better than any therapist I ever had.
@@fisty539
Damn dude.... I feel bad for the guy.
What ia Lexapro, a Benzo or SSRI? I know having those around can be useful for snapping out of a bad experience.
@@Tacit_Tern it's an ssri, basically cancels out mdma and most psychadelics, you'll feel something but it's like 40% (i'd guess just from personal), benzos are better for anxiety, sleep, panic etc so they're handy for heavy trips. They also work within 10-30 mins, so very good
i wonder who owns that opening song
Hell yeah!
I’ve never related to big jay more, I went through the exact same thing
Do you also smoke a lot of weed like Big Jay? If so, cut back and thank me later. Very common, many such cases, a lot of people hit 30 and THC starts affecting them differently, has stronger effects regardless of tolerance. It doesn’t help that flower keeps getting stronger and stronger and concentrates more and more popular..
You know what really helps with anxiety. Not doing drugs... I find (not judging anyone) The worst anxiety you'll get is xanax leaving your body. Only liquor withdrawal and benzo withdrawal can kill you...
This is true and you need more likes
I appreciate this share Ari 🙏
Hearing big jay talk about the exact same type of thing I’m dealing with atm is genuinely very helpful a few weeks ago I was at work, I work in a kitchen and the other chef I work with couldn’t come in that day and so I was all alone making food for everyone it was supposed to be an easy Sunday but turned into one of the busiest services of my life I was making food with out stopping for a solid 9 hours before I realised I didn’t have enough dough made to finish the long line of cheques I already had left n that combined with the type of person I’ve been for the past 3 years were I just try to show my strongest side at all times never giving in i just broke n had a full blown panic attack looked like Toney soprano as I slowly hyperventilated into a non conscious state ever since then the shakes n the fear and the panic attacks have been very prevalent on a weekly basis, I have a good understanding of my own mind n what sets it off so I’ve been taking steps to fix it n ease my self up but it’s difficult when I got responsibilities n my body just won’t let me take care of them, but honestly hearing big jay describe all the exact same symptoms n how it affected him has been the most therapeutic part of my week thank you
Intro ranking:
1-skanks
2-matt and Shane
3-broken simulation
4-skeptic tank
Matt and Shane’s is by far the best
Stick cumtown in there…. Scratch that actually is there a way to put cumtown on there without giving Adam and stav any credit? Because anything good on that show is 100% nick Mullen.
Idk if it’s that your brain is sprained or if it’s naturally responding to your environment, relationships, and self worth. Johann Hari’s book Lost Connections changed my perspective drastically on depression
32:55
Oh, thank God.
Podcast finally started.
Ari's Monolouges are terrible, Thank you, Lord Campbell.
It's also in the description.
@@arishaffir I thought I checked. Or I usually do. Thanks, Ari.
@@arishaffir thanks time-stamp guy. I like to watch in the opposite order, interview then monologue.
Man ari shaffir is for the people. A comedian who cares. Thanks for the words of encouragement especially rn. Love you man
Great ep! Big Jay is the best!
This is awesome. Mental health issues need to be discussed more and more. Fuck stigmas
Thank you for talking about this.
He's talking about the vomitorium at Cesarea, not intended for this originally but used as the side alley for a club, but for ancient time they had a name for this alley
I’m the same exact person as big jay as far as everything he’s said in this episode. I’m 2 days clean off drugs today and it’s the most present it’s ever been.. thank you for this episode
Great conversation. Thank you
One thing I’ve learned from TH-cam is this: a vomitorium ISNT a room where romans threw up all they’d binged. It’s the exit of a coliseum, because it looked as though the coliseum was vomiting people out onto the street.
Thanks random TH-cam video!!
👈👈😉
And now, upon scrolling down, someone already said this.
Good job, Andrew... fucking jack off 🙄
Yea....avenged 7 fold would make me question friendships too man😕
Their early shit was good.
I didn't realize part of anxiety was the movie thing he was talking about that's how i am to, this episode is crazy im glad Big Jay was open as fuck cause i feel 100% less alone now I thought i was just weird and crazy running up the stairs knowing no one is behind me lol
GodDAMN this is right on time!!!!
What is he using to record ?
Great episode. Thank you Big Jay. Thank you Ari.
Lol Ari’s eyes at 36:50 when they both try to speak at the same time
Bring back the Chapel boys!! It was a real slamarino!!
up here before my podcast place of choice, no skeptic tanking while biking :(
Ari Shaffir owns this comment.
FINGERLESS GLOVES.
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