The Infinitely Merciful and the Question of Hellfire - Mohammad Elshinawy | YM Youth Conference 2017

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  • @abdul-rahmandauda7224
    @abdul-rahmandauda7224 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    May Allah make us die as good Muslims🙏

    • @anderskristian6220
      @anderskristian6220 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      you prolly dont care but if you are bored like me atm you can stream pretty much all the latest movies on InstaFlixxer. Have been watching with my brother for the last couple of weeks :)

    • @marshallbrixton8683
      @marshallbrixton8683 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Anders Kristian Definitely, been using instaflixxer for months myself :D

  • @sameerawarsi827
    @sameerawarsi827 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i’ve struggled for many years with feeling or being hopeful of Allahs mercy, despite hearing about it and reading about it countless times. but this talk actually penetrated into my soul and allowed me to actually absorb *something* of how intense and how expansive Allah’s mercy is subhanAllah. may Allah bless this sheikh, his family, the ones he learned from and all of our scholars.

  • @YusufEstesIslam
    @YusufEstesIslam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Salam alaykum. Listen to Mohammad Elshinawy explain Allah's Mercy carefully, analyze the intelligent way he explains and keeps our attention. Then share his video with as many people as you can - Muslims and those who are not yet guided. He really keeps us engaged. By the way, when I first met Mohammad, he was only 15 years old. His older brother told me to "Take him aside and get him to practice Islam" . . . 2 years later, he was sitting next to me in a fundraiser for the Youth Center on Bath Avenue in Brooklyn, New York - they asked him to speak first about the need for the youth center. His talk was so strong, from the heart - and none of the rest of the speakers (including me) wanted to speak after him. He comes from the heart and the mind of a real Muslim. Make dua for him and his whole family and SHARE . .

    • @therandomnomad435
      @therandomnomad435 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i am sorry,but he hasnt really solved the paradox sir. the paradox os this-if God is infinitely just or infinitely merciful-if he is infinitely just and punishes someone for outrightly denying him(assuming it accounts for infinite sin for the sake of argument), then his infinite mercy is outlawed here. (God is said to be infinitely merciful,compassionate and forgiving). in other words,there is a limit to his "mercy",and it doesn't account for an infinite crime/sin. That is NOT adressed here.

  • @RubinaMerchant
    @RubinaMerchant 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    MashaAllah. So beautifully and gently explained. Jazak Allah Khairan.

  • @anwarsaleem7283
    @anwarsaleem7283 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Subhanallah, Allah swt doesn't put people into hell fire people choose to go to hell fire because they reject Allah swt rahmah and Paradise.

  • @lightupwithshua
    @lightupwithshua 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wonderful talk. THank you!

  • @mhaniff5369
    @mhaniff5369 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Assalamu alaikum. Ya Allaah, we are eternally grateful to you even when we forget to acknowledge your mercy. Allahu akbar🙏🏽🕋

  • @anwarsaleem7283
    @anwarsaleem7283 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Salamualaikum everyone, please, read Surah Al-Mutafiffin for some understanding. May Allah swt give us the best of Dunya wal akhirah. Ameen

  • @buckyfester6771
    @buckyfester6771 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Ma'sha Allah beautiful speech, but I fear you did not address the ultimate question.
    People aren't disturbed by the fact that the Most Merciful could punish someone. Lookit, even our own parents punished us in the name of love and decent upbringing.
    The problem, the real issue is; how can a *finite* amount of sin be awarded with an *infinite* amount of punishment. This is the problem. A valid question. People who wish to disbelieve ask it - then never seek the answer. They just try to justify their own disbelief with valid questions. But the answers exist.
    The solution is time: Or rather; the _lack_ of time.
    It's kind of hard to wrap your head around this idea of timelessness when all you're used to is time. Experiential learning has confined our minds to the limitations of linear time. But didn't Einstein prove that time itself is relative. It changes its "duration" relative to the viewers circumstances. He was once asked to explain it in laymens terms. He said it's like this: Time moves very slowly when you're holding a hot coal, and moves very fast when courting a pretty young lady.
    Remember falling off your bicycle? How time slowed right the way down. Well, imagine if it stopped altogether, but you still fell anyway. That's just how it's going to be.
    Time is precious. It's all we have. Allah azza wajal said in a hadith qudsi that man curses time, but that He Himself is time. I don't know what that means, but I do know that Allah the Author has created this thing call time that moves in one direction and that unfolds, page by page. When it concludes. The book will be folded up and the great sorting out will take place.
    Use your time given to you to put something forward for that day of Judgement.
    I hope any seeker who had trouble with this issue of infinite hell vs finite sin has been satified by the will, guidance and gift of Allah.
    I write this with the aim of pleasing Him. and if He chooses to guide another of His servants to it to satisfy them then all I have to say is - Hi =)

    • @mahmudabdullahmahi
      @mahmudabdullahmahi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @bucky fester , 1. question is not finite vs infinite..... real ques is - can the crime done in a very short period of time get prolonged punishment? if the answer is yes then disbeleiver's logic is gone. suppose 1 student in a normal mental condition slapped his teacher then school authority give him T.C forever...look student did crime in few seconds but gets lifelong suspension.... is it irrational??? ofcourse not. samething ALLAH is the Creator and HE knows which act should get what punishment in this system...and HE doesnot do any wrong.

    • @Hashir198
      @Hashir198 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      well if u consider the fact that God has blessed you with infinite blessings, then being ungrateful to Him would amount to infinite sin.. no? In which case the punishment would be justified. The mercy is that even when your ungrateful for most of ur life, if you are grateful even for a small amount of time during that time, God could literally grant u salvation... God knows best tho.

    • @therandomnomad435
      @therandomnomad435 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Hashir198 so, the graveness of the crime is infinite and met with an infinite punishment.
      But if God is inifinitely merciful, would He actually punish someone for all eternity?
      If you opt for infinite (supposed)justice, the infinite mercy factor still remains there, undressed. Stressing on the infinitude of the supposed sin doesn't solve the problem.
      This is like a saddle game-when you try to fix one end, the other end flattens.
      Hinduism adresses this issue without breaking the infinitudes of God.
      We acknowledge the fact that arrogant beings lower themselves down the karmic chain, until they hit the point of no more endurance/resistance and mend their ways and turn to humility.
      In our religion, God's mercy doesn't exhaust in one lifetime. Rather, it goes hand in hand with God's justice throughout births and rebirths-and unlike Islam, the infinitude of God's attributes aren't limited by time factor.
      At that point, God shows them the way to reform.
      Thus, the question of infinite hell doesn't arise- and thus, the paradox Islam faces is dissolved in hinduism.

    • @JJ-cn2ud
      @JJ-cn2ud 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@therandomnomad435 Truly wise and beautiful philosophy. Thank you.

  • @yasminmusse7900
    @yasminmusse7900 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    There is no unlike . mashallah💛😄😍💖💕

    • @thiernondiaye7781
      @thiernondiaye7781 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      the talk is great no matter if someone unlike it or not. May Allah bless this brother

    • @rbkr20
      @rbkr20 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are 7 unlikes from friends of Iblees.May allah Azzawajal Guide them 🤲

  • @malinakinnarath1091
    @malinakinnarath1091 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    JazakAllahukhairan

  • @upquark31415
    @upquark31415 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Keeping aside the philosophical justification, let's do a psychological analysis of the one who is raising this question with regards to his Creator, the One who will take account of his every actions and words one day. The questioner is assuming there is God to whom we are accountable to. He is questioning the nature of that accountability and how it relates to the attributes of God. With regards to the particular question we can assume either of the two attributes of God, 1) He is merciful and just (whatever notion of mercy and justice we might have), or 2) He is unjust and despotic. Now on the day of judgment it will be asked of us, if we assumed that God is merciful then why were we foolish enough to not to look out for his mercy instead of rebelling against him? On the other hand if we assumed that God is vengeful and 'unjust' (may Allah protect us) and using his 'despotic' power to give infinite punishment for 'finite' crimes, then why were we so arrogant to feel ourselves safe from his wrath? We have to be careful of what we assume and say of God, he will interact with us accordingly. As in the famous hadith qudsi in sahih al-Bukhari states:
    أَنَا عِنْدَ ظَنِّ عَبْدِي بِي
    anaa 'inda dhanni 'abdee bi
    I am as My servant thinks I am.
    The bottom line:
    لَا مَلْجَأَ وَلّا مَنْجَا مِنْكَ إِلَّا إِلَيْكَ
    la maljaa wala manja minka illa ilayk
    Verily there is no refuge nor safe haven from You except with You.
    In other words, if we assume that he is merciful then we would be arrogant for not seeking out his mercy. If we assume he is vengeful then who else can save us from his vengeance?

    • @michaelshylock8269
      @michaelshylock8269 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The punishment of eternal hellfire is reserved mainly for the KAFIREEN (REJECTORS). Now, let me define the term 'Kafir' first.
      A Kafir is a person who is bent on rejecting the truth knowingly.
      Quran (Surah Baqarah)
      The people of the Book know this (Revelation) as they know their own sons, but some of them conceal the truth which they themselves know. (2:146)
      In the above-mentioned verse, it is quite clear that the message of GOD was manifested to the direct addresses of the Prophet Muhammad (SWS) to such extent that they were left with no excuse to deny it. Read closely, GOD is stressing upon their deliberate rejection and the intensity of their KUFR is also clearly mentioned. After that, they were labelled as 'KAFIRS'.

  • @f.a.m.swirelessconnection1416
    @f.a.m.swirelessconnection1416 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    i think this was 2018 at ICNA in Baltimore... cuz i think i was there

  • @Gog3453
    @Gog3453 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Allah created hellfire because Allah has given man the freedom of choice. KNOW THAT ALLAH IS JUST

  • @dontegardner4735
    @dontegardner4735 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    An incorret premise that many muslims can't reconcile Allah's contrasting attributes of mercy and wrath every muslim accept all of Allah's attributes this is for non muslims

  • @PlanetOfTheApes999
    @PlanetOfTheApes999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is this called a research institute? Nothing new is being developed here. You can't innovate in Islam.

  • @goodperson6622
    @goodperson6622 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These arguments are absurd! How is eternal hellfire just for limited lifetime of so called “disbelief” ?

    • @syedsaad1594
      @syedsaad1594 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's easy .... try to count the blessings of Allah (even if you're a disbeliever, but hear me out). And I mean, every single thing. Every minute detail about your body (limbs, eyes, ears, nose, heart, kidneys, every single organ or bone, their function, microscopic beings, bacteria, enzymes, hormones, proteins, their processes, DNA, genes, chromosomes etc .... a very precise, calculated & intelligent "random accident" all this is, ehhh?) your mind, your conscience, your ethics, morality, your health, your power to use nature for your benefit etc. See if you will be able to count it all. Use every second of your whole life, plus another 100 years, if we're being generous. What's going to be the outcome? It might come as a shocker, but you won't be able to count the blessings and mercy of Allah upon you, even if you spend a million years. No human being or creature can. Infinite blessings, favors & infinite mercy, and after realizing all this, you still reject, turn away and disbelieve ... Then, my friend, you deserve eternal punishment.
      "And if you should count the favors of Allah, you could not enumerate them. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful". (Qur'an 16:18)
      "Say, "If the sea were ink for [writing] the words of my Lord, the sea would be exhausted before the words of my Lord were exhausted, even if We brought the like of it as a supplement." (Qur'an 18:109)
      "And if whatever trees upon the earth were pens and the sea [was ink], replenished thereafter by seven [more] seas, the words of Allah would not be exhausted. Indeed, Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise". (Qur'an 31:27)

    • @goodperson6622
      @goodperson6622 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Saad Ahmed please watch and refer to Hassan Radwan videos as a challenge to your answer, thank you!

    • @maggyhamada2560
      @maggyhamada2560 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Does the same apply to those who had served God their entire life and done good? By your logic, it is also not "just" that a limited lifetime of belief merits eternal Paradise.
      God gave us a whole lifespan to accept and worship Him and He informed us of our fate given the decisions we make. But we chose to ignore His warnings, so there is no one to blame but ourselves for rejecting the Truth.

    • @therandomnomad435
      @therandomnomad435 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maggyhamada2560 which in itself is illogical. The very concept of Eternal afterlife as a 'reward' is senseless.

    • @maggyhamada2560
      @maggyhamada2560 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@therandomnomad435 Who are you to decide if it's senseless or not? Are you God? Just because you don't find something making sense, doesn't mean you now possess the authority to make it false.
      Did you forget your roots? You were once a spec in your mom's womb and you came into this world weak and knowing nothing, so it amazes me how you can muster the audacity to question your own Creator.
      If have a problem with eternal reward, then you don't have to do anything to work for it. But this is the path you chose and you will face the consequences:
      "Verily, those who disbelieved, and died while they were disbelievers, the (whole) earth full of gold will not be accepted from anyone of them even if they offered it as a ransom. For them is a painful torment and they will have no helpers." (Quran 3:91)