Andrew, I have seen a couple of other people on youtube flush setting, but, as detailed and informative as your version was, I still can't help thinking there's sorcery involved. I'm going to have to have a go and find out. Brilliant video. 🙌🙌🙌
I also love using a ball bur. I actually prefer to use a carbide ball bur and skip the setting bur for smaller stones. They stay sharp for so long. Thank you for sharing this view. Always nice to see how others work.
Excellent as always, this is the first place I look when I need to freshen up on my jewellery making techniques. Its really easy to understand, to follow along and to use the right tools to make it easier. Thank you!
hey love the video! i've been trying the flush setting but I can’t get the stone to sit tight, so when I go with my burnisher it dances sideways. Any tips?
Thanks for sharing your knowledge, it’s so important to see different ways people set stones. Also, I have had customers complain if the bottom of the stone is poking through a pendant, it can rub against their chest and cause irritation. Not criticizing, just throwing that out there
I now have pendant motor set up on a stand, and have started drilling on a piece of silverplate-I have to sharpen my burnishers before I try setting-steel has got to be more difficult??Will the flush set hold over time? I would guess if I do it well on the steel/silverplate, it would likely hold indefinitely, but how do you determine how well you have flush set in sterling on a blind hole?Is it okay to use jewelry grade epoxy-just a drop? if you want to ensure stone will not ever get lost? Or is that just not done for some other reason?
many thanks for this very clear video! I will try the flush setting soon, its a real challenge for me but my favorite kind of setting stones , thanks a lot for your help!
Mr Berry , as always I absolutely love your videos. Flush setting is my favorite. I have a challenge for you. Could you please do a video on flush setting a fancy cut. I know this might be advance for most viewers, but I want to learn. Can't wait until April 16.
I'm glad to see you saving the shavings. I wondered why I hadn't seen this before. With all the shavings, they add up at the end of the day. I work with metal clays. When I save the shavi gs/filings I get to make more clay to work with. You can melt yours or bring to refiner for money.
Can this method be used in brass? I work mainly with brass and would love to incorporate flush set stones in my designs, but I am not sure if thte burnishing would work on brass since brass tend to harden very fast by any kind of pressure put on it. So maybe I need to fully anneal it after the hole is ready?
How would the depth needed change if the surface of the stone is rounded (flat backed cab) instead of a stone with a table? Thanks so much in advance!!
Hey Andrew I hope you read this because I know you dont make cuban links or anything but I want to make them and eventually want to put diamonds in them. I would start off with using garnets and such but it would really help a bigger variety of jewelers if you did something like putting cubic zirconias in a silver chain link or something similar to get the point across. Id love that and I know a lot more people would, even if you did two links, to get the point across. I love watching your channel and I learn something new every time I watch a video from you. Thats why I’m asking you if you could make a video like I said earlier. It would help me out tremendously!!!!
Great tip about size of stone determining depth to set in relation to surface of metal (i.e. with larger stones don't aim to be flush with metal). I've had trouble getting larger stones secure, perhaps I've been trying to set them too deeply. Thank you!
You make it look so very simple. I’ve tried a lot of times but disaster. So I’m going to try again and focus on stone size. I’ve bought those magnifiers. So cross your fingers. Fab detailed video as usual. Kathy.
Would it be possible to show a before and after of the stone in place then after burnishing please? It is such small detailing that I can’t quite see the difference.
I’ve been meaning to try flush setting for years, bought all the tools, and then got scared. Your videos pushed me to try and I’m happy to say I successfully flush set three 3mm CZs yesterday! Today I tried a 1.25mm emerald. I did manage it, but it was fiddly. Do you have any tips and tricks for setting smaller sized stones? Thank you, your videos are really great!
thank you so much for this - you're a fantastic teacher! i just had my lesson in flush setting earlier today and absolutely killed my hand - 4 hours later and 2 fingers are still numb, but your hand positioning makes a lot of sense so i'll definitely be trying this :) you also make it look so effortless!
Just watched this again, I am in the process of setting 12 2mm Sapphires, I cheated I used my newly acquired watchmakers drill press to drill the holes and cut the seats it worked very well
Hello, Andrew. Thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge with us, greatly appreciated. Regarding the GRS block you use for securing the silver plate , I found it too expensive. Of course, I understand that's a special tool, but can you show us an alternative?
He did. Like he said you can use a ring clamp. You can also use a vice or you can just hold your piece if it’s big enough, on a drill able surface. The GRS system is lovely, but it’s not cheap, and it’s not necessary.
Great video. Thanks. Could you set a 7mm stone if you’re happy to have the table sitting proud of the metal surface? And if so, would you then call it a “burnish set” vs flush set?
If setting into a half round/round ring is it the same process or is there anything else to consider ? Just wondering as two sides of the metal would be a fraction higher than the others ?
Hello Andrew, First of all, Thank you so much for your helpful videos. I really love and enjoy watching your precise steps of making jewelry. I would like to have some advice which I am having some trouble. I am following your steps but for some reasons my stone is not staying in. The stone I am setting up in a 16 gauge metal is 2.20 CZ stone . I followed your drills sizes , I am using a size bud burr 023 and using a setting seat burr 020. Then I burnished around and when I tested as per your video it seems to stay but when I pocket from the back the CZ comes off. I will appreciate your help or any suggestions or advice. Thank You 😊
Thank you so much! I find it really difficult to measure the height of a stone. I don’t have one of those nice gauges like you have. Can you recommend one that is not as expensive?
Fantastic video. 2 questions, Is this a general procedure in the sense that it is used for any stone and any metal? I ask because I am studying watchmaking and want to know if this technique can be used to set the jewel bearings into the base plate of the movement?, (synthetic sapphire into brass). Second; what is the name of the rotating vice used to hand engrave the rim/countersink around the stone and where can I get one?.
Andrew thank you for your excellent video’s, I’ve been doing custom jewelry for some 50 years, and as a quote from Michelangelo , “Ancora Imparo” (“I am still learning”), I find this to be true everyday! In my work I find that I just about make everything from scratch, I started the old way,before a lot of stuff was being manufactured!! I find myself still working this way today! I was only going to ask you a question, and here I’ve written you a letter, I’m setting (flush setting) some rubies in an item that after setting them I want to solder it onto a larger item, do I have to worry about the setting rim melting away, since it’s so thin around the stone?? If you could give me a heads up on this, I would greatly appreciate your knowledge and input, Thank You in advance!! P.S.,it seems I almost always pick up some little tidbit from the video’s I’ve seen!! I’m Frank Kurz (USA) caught the first one from RIO Grande , my main tools & material supplier , Thank You for listening to me ramble on & on & on , Bless you & yours in these most unusual times!!😎🌴🌴⛱👀
hi Andrew when making a wire or prong setting what gauge wire do you use in relation to the size of the stone please, I did this once and it looked bloody awfull all over the place natural to say it wound up on the scrap..
Hi, Andrew! Thanks for this very detailed demo on flush setting. May I ask where you source these very thick discs of silver? I've only found sources that sell up to 22g. Do you mill them and cut them? I'm in the US. Thanks.
Hi Andrew, thanks so much for this, I successfully flush set a stone after watching this three times, I would like to learn star setting and so I purchased your Star Setting Part 1 on your website but I cannot find part 2. Please help?
That is the clearest and most complete tutorial on flush setting I have seen….thanks
As usual you give us all the details we need and show us the finer points, like hand positions. You are a fabulous teacher.
Thank you for your the demonstration: you are a very good theacher and explains clearly and shows it well
Thank you Andrew, I can’t wait to try this out !
You’re such a great teacher!
Hands down the best flush setting video I’ve watched! Thank you so much!
Thanks Sir, great explanation how to set this flush setting stone.
I've watched many flush setting videos and this is the best so far, thank you Andrew!
Andrew, I have seen a couple of other people on youtube flush setting, but, as detailed and informative as your version was, I still can't help thinking there's sorcery involved. I'm going to have to have a go and find out. Brilliant video. 🙌🙌🙌
Be lovely if you could show how to flush set a square, pear shape , and oval stones. Please 🙏
Yes please please plllleeaaaassseee do this!! NO BODY (THAT I KNOW OF) HAVE A VIDEO DOING THIS....anyone know of one??
No need it is the same procedure, only difference is you need to cut the seat by hand with a burr
@@pijnto ohh how funny....that actually makes complete sense. I'm going to have to try this....thank you!!
@@pijnto sorry, I disagree. I think you should use a graver
Depends on what the jeweller is comfortable with and what tools they have to hand.
Adding to my favorites... too many little details to end up missing one. Thanks for this tutorial, Andrew!
I also love using a ball bur. I actually prefer to use a carbide ball bur and skip the setting bur for smaller stones. They stay sharp for so long. Thank you for sharing this view. Always nice to see how others work.
That is beautiful. I would like to learn to do that.
Fantastic tutorial, thank you Andrew!🙏🌸
Oh man... You did it again! Thanks.
Excellent as always, this is the first place I look when I need to freshen up on my jewellery making techniques. Its really easy to understand, to follow along and to use the right tools to make it easier. Thank you!
Are you reading our search histories? Or our minds? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣❤️
hey love the video! i've been trying the flush setting but I can’t get the stone to sit tight, so when I go with my burnisher it dances sideways. Any tips?
Thanks Andrew, this is the video I've always wanted. All I need now is pavé and micro pavé.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge, it’s so important to see different ways people set stones. Also, I have had customers complain if the bottom of the stone is poking through a pendant, it can rub against their chest and cause irritation. Not criticizing, just throwing that out there
Fantastic tutorial, thank you
So cool. Hopefully one day I’ll be able to do this!
I now have pendant motor set up on a stand, and have started drilling on a piece of silverplate-I have to sharpen my burnishers before I try setting-steel has got to be more difficult??Will the flush set hold over time? I would guess if I do it well on the steel/silverplate, it would likely hold indefinitely, but how do you determine how well you have flush set in sterling on a blind hole?Is it okay to use jewelry grade epoxy-just a drop? if you want to ensure stone will not ever get lost? Or is that just not done for some other reason?
Hi, great lesson. Many thanks!!!
many thanks for this very clear video! I will try the flush setting soon, its a real challenge for me but my favorite kind of setting stones , thanks a lot for your help!
Mr Berry , as always I absolutely love your videos. Flush setting is my favorite. I have a challenge for you. Could you please do a video on flush setting a fancy cut. I know this might be advance for most viewers, but I want to learn. Can't wait until April 16.
He is a great teacher. I love his videos.
good job thanks for teaching
I'm glad to see you saving the shavings. I wondered why I hadn't seen this before. With all the shavings, they add up at the end of the day. I work with metal clays. When I save the shavi gs/filings I get to make more clay to work with. You can melt yours or bring to refiner for money.
Thank you for being so thorough! Very helpful.
In this case the gem is 2.5mm, what is the size of the ball bur you use, which is the penultimate one?
Can this method be used in brass? I work mainly with brass and would love to incorporate flush set stones in my designs, but I am not sure if thte burnishing would work on brass since brass tend to harden very fast by any kind of pressure put on it. So maybe I need to fully anneal it after the hole is ready?
Hello. Many thx for videos! Wery good and professional! Good job Andrew !
How would the depth needed change if the surface of the stone is rounded (flat backed cab) instead of a stone with a table? Thanks so much in advance!!
thank you for the brilliant video. now I know why to use a ball bur before using the straight side to seat a stone. great explanation
Thank you for you Videos and for your Time
Hello, can you do the same setting with a cabochon?
Can you glue the stone at the bottom for safety?
Hi Andrew can you recommend some burrs for me
Hi, thank you ;)
I loved it! Thank you for sharing!
Hey Andrew I hope you read this because I know you dont make cuban links or anything but I want to make them and eventually want to put diamonds in them. I would start off with using garnets and such but it would really help a bigger variety of jewelers if you did something like putting cubic zirconias in a silver chain link or something similar to get the point across. Id love that and I know a lot more people would, even if you did two links, to get the point across. I love watching your channel and I learn something new every time I watch a video from you. Thats why I’m asking you if you could make a video like I said earlier. It would help me out tremendously!!!!
that's amazing thank you!!
Great tip about size of stone determining depth to set in relation to surface of metal (i.e. with larger stones don't aim to be flush with metal). I've had trouble getting larger stones secure, perhaps I've been trying to set them too deeply. Thank you!
So helpful thank you, can I use a ball bit to drill the initial hole and then a setting but instead of a drill bit (if I don’t have drill bits yet)
Sorry a ball bur for initial drilling * and then setting bur*
As opposed to drill bit, ball bur, and the setting bur
Yes that would also work
Very helpful!
Okay,...you've inspired me to try this again.
Great Video ❤❤❤
You make it look so easy. Thanks for the demo
You make it look so very simple. I’ve tried a lot of times but disaster. So I’m going to try again and focus on stone size. I’ve bought those magnifiers. So cross your fingers. Fab detailed video as usual. Kathy.
Great video
Would it be possible to show a before and after of the stone in place then after burnishing please? It is such small detailing that I can’t quite see the difference.
Thank you for doing this video! This is so hard for me, but I'm ready to try again.
I’ve been meaning to try flush setting for years, bought all the tools, and then got scared. Your videos pushed me to try and I’m happy to say I successfully flush set three 3mm CZs yesterday! Today I tried a 1.25mm emerald. I did manage it, but it was fiddly. Do you have any tips and tricks for setting smaller sized stones? Thank you, your videos are really great!
He only does/shows basics, anything more, you have to pay!
Thank you from Brazil!! 🇧🇷 It was such a great and helpful lesson!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻💎
can you flush set round gemstones in titanium flats?
Can I also use diamond bears?
thank you so much for this - you're a fantastic teacher! i just had my lesson in flush setting earlier today and absolutely killed my hand - 4 hours later and 2 fingers are still numb, but your hand positioning makes a lot of sense so i'll definitely be trying this :) you also make it look so effortless!
Thanks Andrew. May I ask what's the radius of the burnisher tip?
It’s an old burr. I used a grinding wheel to taper the tip. It goes down to a top that is about 0.5mm round and polished.
Many thanks.
Amazing video!
Do you never use special glue for silver to set a diamond?
Just watched this again, I am in the process of setting 12 2mm Sapphires, I cheated I used my newly acquired watchmakers drill press to drill the holes and cut the seats it worked very well
Hi Super Andrew, thanks again for yet another awesome video.
May I suggest to show a) other stone settings b) other cuts. please!
can you do this with cabs?
What would you do different to flush set a stone in domed metal, like half round wire, please?
Set the stone lower so the outer edge is a fraction above the girdle and the centre is going to be height so you would need to file it lower
How can this be done with a flat back crystal?
Hello, Andrew. Thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge with us, greatly appreciated. Regarding the GRS block you use for securing the silver plate , I found it too expensive. Of course, I understand that's a special tool, but can you show us an alternative?
He did. Like he said you can use a ring clamp. You can also use a vice or you can just hold your piece if it’s big enough, on a drill able surface. The GRS system is lovely, but it’s not cheap, and it’s not necessary.
You can use thermoset plastic in a ring vise
Thanks! Very clear descriptions.
Awasome video. Can you elaborate did you stick the stone ? I mean how does it remain intact there. Please help
Did not stick it. It stays in place by the metal that is burnished over the edge
Can you flush set other shapes of stones? Oval or pear shaped?
Yes please....is there any videos of this being done in other shapes anywhere on utube?
What bench vice are you using?
Great video. Thanks. Could you set a 7mm stone if you’re happy to have the table sitting proud of the metal surface? And if so, would you then call it a “burnish set” vs flush set?
Yes, after 2 mm the table sits above the metal. Still classed as flush set
I'd like to see you in concert! 🤣🤣🤣
thank you
If setting into a half round/round ring is it the same process or is there anything else to consider ? Just wondering as two sides of the metal would be a fraction higher than the others ?
Hello Andrew,
First of all, Thank you so much for your helpful videos. I really love and enjoy watching your precise steps of making jewelry. I would like to have some advice which I am having some trouble. I am following your steps but for some reasons my stone is not staying in. The stone I am setting up in a 16 gauge metal is 2.20 CZ stone . I followed your drills sizes , I am using a size bud burr 023 and using a setting seat burr 020. Then I burnished around and when I tested as per your video it seems to stay but when I pocket from the back the CZ comes off. I will appreciate your help or any suggestions or advice. Thank You 😊
How is the vice called you use?
Thanks Andrew. Just the detail I needed.
Do you ever use a? Hart but after you use the setting for. Bur?
Are you supposed to listen for a click? Thank you.
I don’t often use a hart burr. As long as the stone is a tight fit in the hole you don’t need to use a hart burr
Thank you so much! I find it really difficult to measure the height of a stone. I don’t have one of those nice gauges like you have. Can you recommend one that is not as expensive?
Bel video, complimenti
Thanks for sharing
No need to undercut with hart burr.? Does the setting burr alone suffice? Or is a ball burr all that is necessary? Or all aforementioned?
I am moving from 3d bullion art to TEMPORARILY making a 25th wedding anniversary ring for my wife. Thanks for the tips.
Thank you for the instructive video! I see you are working with silver, is this possible to do with 304 stainless steel?
Thank you for the informative video!! I have a question, is this burnishing technique possible with 304 stainless steel as it's a harder metal?
I want to know how to “bust down” grills for teeth & how do you invisible set diamonds on a uneven surface
Fantastic video. 2 questions, Is this a general procedure in the sense that it is used for any stone and any metal? I ask because I am studying watchmaking and want to know if this technique can be used to set the jewel bearings into the base plate of the movement?, (synthetic sapphire into brass). Second; what is the name of the rotating vice used to hand engrave the rim/countersink around the stone and where can I get one?.
How soft is the metal? Does drilling it harden the metal? Anneal first? Thank you for all this info. I love these videos.
@@torstenneuer1560 Ah that would my failure in trying to flush set in brass.
Very inspiring, will be trying this soon. 😁 Would like to see a vid on pave setting please.
How would some go about getting silver or gold diamonds or cz's versus junk from Hobby lobby
How close can you put flush mounts next to each other?
Andrew thank you for your excellent video’s, I’ve been doing custom jewelry for some 50 years, and as a quote from Michelangelo , “Ancora Imparo” (“I am still learning”), I find this to be true everyday! In my work I find that I just about make everything from scratch, I started the old way,before a lot of stuff was being manufactured!! I find myself still working this way today! I was only going to ask you a question, and here I’ve written you a letter, I’m setting (flush setting) some rubies in an item that after setting them I want to solder it onto a larger item, do I have to worry about the setting rim melting away, since it’s so thin around the stone?? If you could give me a heads up on this, I would greatly appreciate your knowledge and input, Thank You in advance!! P.S.,it seems I almost always pick up some little tidbit from the video’s I’ve seen!! I’m Frank Kurz (USA) caught the first one from RIO Grande , my main tools & material supplier , Thank You for listening to me ramble on & on & on , Bless you & yours in these most unusual times!!😎🌴🌴⛱👀
hi Andrew when making a wire or prong setting what gauge wire do you use in relation to the size of the stone please, I did this once and it looked bloody awfull all over the place natural to say it wound up on the scrap..
Thank you! So helpful!
What is that rotating thing called?
Does anyone know where I can buy the burrs to try flush setting? I looked on Amazon and I couldn’t find any like the one in the video
Yes, we sell them www.atthebench.store
Hi, Andrew! Thanks for this very detailed demo on flush setting. May I ask where you source these very thick discs of silver? I've only found sources that sell up to 22g. Do you mill them and cut them? I'm in the US. Thanks.
Rio Grande! Thicknesses to 6 gauge.
Hi Andrew, thanks so much for this, I successfully flush set a stone after watching this three times, I would like to learn star setting and so I purchased your Star Setting Part 1 on your website but I cannot find part 2. Please help?
Hi
Its here www.atthebench.com/stone-setting-star-setting-part-2-2/
@@Atthebench Thanks!
What is that took he uses to grab the stone with and pick it up!?
I call it a boogie stick. It is bees wax mixed with charcoal
Do you need to clean out the Burs after using them?