How to Flush Set Round Gemstones - A Detailed Look
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 พ.ค. 2020
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Andrew demonstrates and goes into great detail how he flush sets a round stone.
Any questions about flush setting then please comment below and Andrew will do his best to answer them.
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That is the clearest and most complete tutorial on flush setting I have seen….thanks
As usual you give us all the details we need and show us the finer points, like hand positions. You are a fabulous teacher.
Andrew, I have seen a couple of other people on youtube flush setting, but, as detailed and informative as your version was, I still can't help thinking there's sorcery involved. I'm going to have to have a go and find out. Brilliant video. 🙌🙌🙌
You’re such a great teacher!
He is a great teacher. I love his videos.
Thank you for being so thorough! Very helpful.
I've watched many flush setting videos and this is the best so far, thank you Andrew!
Hands down the best flush setting video I’ve watched! Thank you so much!
Thanks Andrew. Just the detail I needed.
I also love using a ball bur. I actually prefer to use a carbide ball bur and skip the setting bur for smaller stones. They stay sharp for so long. Thank you for sharing this view. Always nice to see how others work.
Thanks! Very clear descriptions.
Thank you for your the demonstration: you are a very good theacher and explains clearly and shows it well
Fantastic tutorial, thank you Andrew!🙏🌸
I loved it! Thank you for sharing!
You make it look so easy. Thanks for the demo
Thanks Andrew, this is the video I've always wanted. All I need now is pavé and micro pavé.
Thank you for you Videos and for your Time
Oh man... You did it again! Thanks.
Thank you! So helpful!
Excellent as always, this is the first place I look when I need to freshen up on my jewellery making techniques. Its really easy to understand, to follow along and to use the right tools to make it easier. Thank you!
Hello. Many thx for videos! Wery good and professional! Good job Andrew !
Fantastic tutorial, thank you
Thank you for doing this video! This is so hard for me, but I'm ready to try again.
Thank you from Brazil!! 🇧🇷 It was such a great and helpful lesson!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻💎
thank you for the brilliant video. now I know why to use a ball bur before using the straight side to seat a stone. great explanation
Hi, great lesson. Many thanks!!!
many thanks for this very clear video! I will try the flush setting soon, its a real challenge for me but my favorite kind of setting stones , thanks a lot for your help!
that's amazing thank you!!
Great tip about size of stone determining depth to set in relation to surface of metal (i.e. with larger stones don't aim to be flush with metal). I've had trouble getting larger stones secure, perhaps I've been trying to set them too deeply. Thank you!
Thanks Sir, great explanation how to set this flush setting stone.
Amazing video!
good job thanks for teaching
thank you so much for this - you're a fantastic teacher! i just had my lesson in flush setting earlier today and absolutely killed my hand - 4 hours later and 2 fingers are still numb, but your hand positioning makes a lot of sense so i'll definitely be trying this :) you also make it look so effortless!
Thanks for sharing your knowledge, it’s so important to see different ways people set stones. Also, I have had customers complain if the bottom of the stone is poking through a pendant, it can rub against their chest and cause irritation. Not criticizing, just throwing that out there
Very helpful!
Great Video ❤❤❤
So cool. Hopefully one day I’ll be able to do this!
Thanks for sharing
You make it look so very simple. I’ve tried a lot of times but disaster. So I’m going to try again and focus on stone size. I’ve bought those magnifiers. So cross your fingers. Fab detailed video as usual. Kathy.
Great video
Hi, thank you ;)
Thanks, nice to know how its don !!
thank you
Thx a lot!
Okay,...you've inspired me to try this again.
Mr Berry , as always I absolutely love your videos. Flush setting is my favorite. I have a challenge for you. Could you please do a video on flush setting a fancy cut. I know this might be advance for most viewers, but I want to learn. Can't wait until April 16.
Very inspiring, will be trying this soon. 😁 Would like to see a vid on pave setting please.
I'm glad to see you saving the shavings. I wondered why I hadn't seen this before. With all the shavings, they add up at the end of the day. I work with metal clays. When I save the shavi gs/filings I get to make more clay to work with. You can melt yours or bring to refiner for money.
Bel video, complimenti
Hi Super Andrew, thanks again for yet another awesome video.
May I suggest to show a) other stone settings b) other cuts. please!
I am moving from 3d bullion art to TEMPORARILY making a 25th wedding anniversary ring for my wife. Thanks for the tips.
Hiya,love all your demos so easy to follow and most off all a really good teacher,i bought some sliver 1mm and d wire ,but to nervous to use it as ive only been doing silversmith for a year now,as the college is closed ive made 2 rings but not confident in case i mess it up 😊
Just try....if u fail ...keep trying! But don't use the sterling silver....it's too expensive to practice on. But your self a cheap copper sheet and practice over and over and you will get it. Believe it or not it's not hard. I have zero schooling or classes ...I just watched a couple utube videos and purchased the supplied and went all in....took only a few tries to master it! That was few years ago and the videos sucked ....it's all about just going all in and try, fail, and try again until you get it! Just don't practice with your expensive silver....get some cheap cz's to flush set in copper! Good luck!! -Toshia
Be lovely if you could show how to flush set a square, pear shape , and oval stones. Please 🙏
Yes please please plllleeaaaassseee do this!! NO BODY (THAT I KNOW OF) HAVE A VIDEO DOING THIS....anyone know of one??
No need it is the same procedure, only difference is you need to cut the seat by hand with a burr
@@pijnto ohh how funny....that actually makes complete sense. I'm going to have to try this....thank you!!
@@pijnto sorry, I disagree. I think you should use a graver
Depends on what the jeweller is comfortable with and what tools they have to hand.
Hey Andrew I hope you read this because I know you dont make cuban links or anything but I want to make them and eventually want to put diamonds in them. I would start off with using garnets and such but it would really help a bigger variety of jewelers if you did something like putting cubic zirconias in a silver chain link or something similar to get the point across. Id love that and I know a lot more people would, even if you did two links, to get the point across. I love watching your channel and I learn something new every time I watch a video from you. Thats why I’m asking you if you could make a video like I said earlier. It would help me out tremendously!!!!
Hello Andrew,
First of all, Thank you so much for your helpful videos. I really love and enjoy watching your precise steps of making jewelry. I would like to have some advice which I am having some trouble. I am following your steps but for some reasons my stone is not staying in. The stone I am setting up in a 16 gauge metal is 2.20 CZ stone . I followed your drills sizes , I am using a size bud burr 023 and using a setting seat burr 020. Then I burnished around and when I tested as per your video it seems to stay but when I pocket from the back the CZ comes off. I will appreciate your help or any suggestions or advice. Thank You 😊
Andrew, I love your videos and your accent. ';o)
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Just watched this again, I am in the process of setting 12 2mm Sapphires, I cheated I used my newly acquired watchmakers drill press to drill the holes and cut the seats it worked very well
Thank you for the instructive video! I see you are working with silver, is this possible to do with 304 stainless steel?
Andrew thank you for your excellent video’s, I’ve been doing custom jewelry for some 50 years, and as a quote from Michelangelo , “Ancora Imparo” (“I am still learning”), I find this to be true everyday! In my work I find that I just about make everything from scratch, I started the old way,before a lot of stuff was being manufactured!! I find myself still working this way today! I was only going to ask you a question, and here I’ve written you a letter, I’m setting (flush setting) some rubies in an item that after setting them I want to solder it onto a larger item, do I have to worry about the setting rim melting away, since it’s so thin around the stone?? If you could give me a heads up on this, I would greatly appreciate your knowledge and input, Thank You in advance!! P.S.,it seems I almost always pick up some little tidbit from the video’s I’ve seen!! I’m Frank Kurz (USA) caught the first one from RIO Grande , my main tools & material supplier , Thank You for listening to me ramble on & on & on , Bless you & yours in these most unusual times!!😎🌴🌴⛱👀
Thank you for the informative video!! I have a question, is this burnishing technique possible with 304 stainless steel as it's a harder metal?
Andrew, can that be done with copper plate to practice on? I have loads of Gemstones, but not a lot of silver to play around with. I have learned alot and would love to try this. Thanks Andrew!
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Fantastic video. 2 questions, Is this a general procedure in the sense that it is used for any stone and any metal? I ask because I am studying watchmaking and want to know if this technique can be used to set the jewel bearings into the base plate of the movement?, (synthetic sapphire into brass). Second; what is the name of the rotating vice used to hand engrave the rim/countersink around the stone and where can I get one?.
I’ve been meaning to try flush setting for years, bought all the tools, and then got scared. Your videos pushed me to try and I’m happy to say I successfully flush set three 3mm CZs yesterday! Today I tried a 1.25mm emerald. I did manage it, but it was fiddly. Do you have any tips and tricks for setting smaller sized stones? Thank you, your videos are really great!
He only does/shows basics, anything more, you have to pay!
I'd love to have you show us how you mark your metal if multiple stones are being set in a row.
hey love the video! i've been trying the flush setting but I can’t get the stone to sit tight, so when I go with my burnisher it dances sideways. Any tips?
hi Andrew when making a wire or prong setting what gauge wire do you use in relation to the size of the stone please, I did this once and it looked bloody awfull all over the place natural to say it wound up on the scrap..
I now have pendant motor set up on a stand, and have started drilling on a piece of silverplate-I have to sharpen my burnishers before I try setting-steel has got to be more difficult??Will the flush set hold over time? I would guess if I do it well on the steel/silverplate, it would likely hold indefinitely, but how do you determine how well you have flush set in sterling on a blind hole?Is it okay to use jewelry grade epoxy-just a drop? if you want to ensure stone will not ever get lost? Or is that just not done for some other reason?
Do you need to clean out the Burs after using them?
Brilliant, love watching your video’s, hubby wants to know why I’m watching men 😂
How soft is the metal? Does drilling it harden the metal? Anneal first? Thank you for all this info. I love these videos.
@@torstenneuer1560 Ah that would my failure in trying to flush set in brass.
What bench vice are you using?
No need to undercut with hart burr.? Does the setting burr alone suffice? Or is a ball burr all that is necessary? Or all aforementioned?
If setting into a half round/round ring is it the same process or is there anything else to consider ? Just wondering as two sides of the metal would be a fraction higher than the others ?
Would it be possible to show a before and after of the stone in place then after burnishing please? It is such small detailing that I can’t quite see the difference.
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Can I also use diamond bears?
can you do this with cabs?
Hello, Andrew. Thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge with us, greatly appreciated. Regarding the GRS block you use for securing the silver plate , I found it too expensive. Of course, I understand that's a special tool, but can you show us an alternative?
He did. Like he said you can use a ring clamp. You can also use a vice or you can just hold your piece if it’s big enough, on a drill able surface. The GRS system is lovely, but it’s not cheap, and it’s not necessary.
You can use thermoset plastic in a ring vise
Hi, Andrew! Thanks for this very detailed demo on flush setting. May I ask where you source these very thick discs of silver? I've only found sources that sell up to 22g. Do you mill them and cut them? I'm in the US. Thanks.
Rio Grande! Thicknesses to 6 gauge.
How would the depth needed change if the surface of the stone is rounded (flat backed cab) instead of a stone with a table? Thanks so much in advance!!
Hi Andrew can you recommend some burrs for me
How close can you put flush mounts next to each other?
Great video. Thanks. Could you set a 7mm stone if you’re happy to have the table sitting proud of the metal surface? And if so, would you then call it a “burnish set” vs flush set?
Yes, after 2 mm the table sits above the metal. Still classed as flush set
Can you glue the stone at the bottom for safety?
Awasome video. Can you elaborate did you stick the stone ? I mean how does it remain intact there. Please help
Did not stick it. It stays in place by the metal that is burnished over the edge
can you flush set round gemstones in titanium flats?
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In this case the gem is 2.5mm, what is the size of the ball bur you use, which is the penultimate one?
I want to know how to “bust down” grills for teeth & how do you invisible set diamonds on a uneven surface
Hello, can you do the same setting with a cabochon?
How is the vice called you use?
Hi Andrew, I love watching your tutorials - the detail you go into is very helpful.
My stone is slipping when trying to burnish - does this mean I drilled to large a hole?
if i may.
i feel like you might have drilled a too big a hole, you didn't push the stone into the setting hard enough or you have started of burnishing too strongly. try to rather increase the preassure with every round and start of quit gently.
good luck!
Hi Andrew
Fantastic video as usual. I have one question; would you recommend a Foredom SR or LX for this sort of work? My reading suggest a LX due to the low RPM. But, this wouldn’t be as useful for polishing due to the low RPM.
I have a dremel, but as you quite rightly recognise, these are less than ideal for such fine tasks
Thanks
Chris
Chris Grime Foredom SR every time. Far more versatile
Andrew Berry much appreciated - I’ve been itching to order. I’ve tried to flush set using my 8 year old dremel 3000 and a flexshaft, and whilst possible, is not easy by any means. Do you have a referral link where you earn commission on purchases? Before I splash out £300 on a quick release set, it’d be good to understand if I could in some way contribute to the great work that you do :)
@@mcgrimes No no referral links unfortunately. Try CousinsUK as they are the cheapest (I think)
Andrew Berry thanks for your help!
Great video! Quick question though, will this process work for Rose Cut diamonds?
Quick answer? Yes 👏🏼
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How can this be done with a flat back crystal?
How would some go about getting silver or gold diamonds or cz's versus junk from Hobby lobby