Good video. A lot of it is generational. There is a difference between the early Upstate SS of the late 80s/early 90s and the SS of later generations. Things evolve over time - which isn’t unusual. To some degree you’re both right - it’s just you’re more accurate because you’re speaking on the here and now and more recent history. I will say for me personally, I have said many times that I do think Northerners not rooted in Northern CA and Southerners not rooted in Southern CA are odd - I don’t mean that disrespectfully or to suggest one is more or less “down” based on where they’re from. Fact is there are 2 organizations which created the North and South label and *they* decide who is and isn’t a member not anyone else. I have heard a couple SS from So Cal speak negative about Upstate SS but again this was 25 yrs ago - and it was only a couple - but you’re right that *today* I don’t hear any SS having the same critique. I have said and will continue to say you have a valuable voice in this space - I’ve learned some from you and that’s more than I can say for most channels in the prison / street / gang genre ✊🏼
Are you talking strictly gang territory or geographical? Anything north of Oxnard probably isn’t So Cal for some but would we expect those areas to be Norte? All the areas of Central Cal from Coast to the Central Valley aren’t really north or south. I know gang wise it’s a bit different but the reality is those areas in between have influence from both sides.
Bro trying to clecha homeboys up that are from out of state is odd for real and that “flame” isn’t in most of them Truthfully. That’s because they’re no generational or geographical ties to the actual cause
@@UpstatePOVaye bro I appreciate you GOING IN ON PANOCHO. I sincerely dislike him. But Im not a creator so I can only leave comments But ALL THE SHlT you said on here is literally verbatim all things I've told him on his comments section and he never responds cuz he knows I'm right .. hell respond to others who leave him unfavorable comments but never me cuz he knows I'll make him cry fasho And what you said about how he was turned down when he was down here and that's Pretty much how he made all the friends he made that ALWAYS TRIES TO BRAG ABOUT (that prob wouldn't claim or recognize him at all in 2024) ... I think IS TRUE TO. I'VE SAID THAT TO HIM OVER A DOZEN TIMES.. and again he never responds or defends his position. Just keeps repeating his lies over and over. I really wish y'all content creators who are in this space that speak up on him CAN SERIOUSLY JUST CONTACT THE UNDERAGE GIRLS he was harassing when he worked for the city of Santa Rosa so everyone CAN FINALLY HAVE A GOOD ENOUGH REASON TO KICK HIM TO THE CURB and possibly get stomped out. Lol . Cuz all he does is take up space .. and deadass he's just a punchabIe face and like lefty said HES THE TYPE THAT ID LOVE TO PACK OUT AND PUT IT ON CAMERA JUST TO HUMILIATE HIM. bro sells big woof tickets i just wish all y'all could band together for one collective hit piece based on his deviance with minors. And get him deemed ALL BAD so he can just leave TH-cam and we don't have to deal with him
The older I get the more I admire the SoCal Sureños, they conduct themselves righteously. Never seen them posting disses to the north or spreading lies of their invincibility. They are too concerned with bucking at their enemigas or slammed with football sentences, booking foos. Any non upstate who reads this, notice next time who is stating disses and lies, you’ll see. A chicano born and raised down south, born into the Sur13, a chicano born and raised in the North14, are the exact same perfect English speaking ethnic mex-Americans. Only difference being colors and geography.
The older I get the more I admire the SoCal Sureños, they conduct themselves righteously. Never seen them posting disses to the north or spreading lies of their invincibility. They are too concerned with bucking at their enemigas or slammed with football sentences, booking foos. Any non upstate who reads this, notice next time who is stating disses and lies, you’ll see. A chicano born and raised down south, born into the Sur13, a chicano born and raised in the North14, are the exact same perfect English speaking ethnic mex-Americans. Only difference being colors and geography.
I think I can speak on this.. I'm From Dallas Tejas aka "Upstate Texas"... So we got "norte" and "Sur" (at least in my time) We recognize where the "lifestyle" came from and pay respect, but we're PROUD of where WE from!!. It's similar but Not the same, nortes mostly claim Black as their color and couple varrios even claim 13 for the 1300 block of their side(ndv13, vns13) and we got "Barrio 13" that claims red but don't claim norte or Sur.. We were introduced to the "Sureño Lifestyle" by 3 older Homeboys that came from East Side Longos 13 and they would be flamed up sometimes... we only got 2 norte gangs that claim red and 14 both from the same varrio "Maham"... As far as that nino guy, he from the country, Odessa and Midland are in the middle of nowhere... Send mines from Upstate Tejas 🇨🇱🤞🏾👈🏾🇲🇽
It’s true. Born in Nor cal, claiming a Nor cal city but saying you are a sureno? Talk to an upstater and a down south cat and you can tell who if from Nor cal. Should have just started their own thing like BB did.
Lots of dudes who are born on so cal Move to nor cal and become northsiders , vice verse . look up gangster gucci he was born in LA but became northsider in San Jose
Nel The 13 been Upstate since the 60s, The homies are from Socal Norcal Cencal East-Cal West-cal buster you name Califas belongs to the Eses from San Diego to Pelican since day 1 pinche buster and you aint finna do nutin but cry on youtube to try nd get the LA foos to take ya side 😂💥💥💥Busta as chap
When LEFTY SAID "PANOCHO man that's the type of fool ... you wanna just pack out and catch it on camera ...Just to laugh more at his weird ass". ....I FELT THAT.
@@norcal3696 lefty? Na ....iono if you see it cuz you're norteno and not feeling him...but bro solid and stand on business. Ya... he goes off and says what he says but he ain't never not once backed down or apologized for anything he's said. So at the end of the day.. he's standing on what he says. Now if he was out here disrespecting and then apologizing the next day that's some hoe SHIT. But just cuz he speaks his mind and not afraid to say what he feels...that's not a negative in my book. So long as hes not backing down or turning down SHlT. He can say and do what he feels ..and so far he ain't turned down SHlT. 🤷🏻♂️
@@p__kingg Nothing personal, just from his first interview with negra my impression was he had feminine mannerisms. Thought I was tripping, but ppl in the comments were saying the same thing. On top of that I don't get the appeal of his music, do you hear him freestyle and think man bros gassing? I hear him repeating the same lines, weak bars....And not because he from the South. Chito gasses, heard some Raza from Dago gas. Shit king lil G go hard. Maybe I'm getting old and this is the new thing, but damn even his live shows I've seen on TH-cam, the crowd is watching like WTF is this .
They didn’t last in my city. Sacra had a few Sur hoods, or cliques I should say. They were strong and known to put in work in the 90’s and early 2000’s. But since 2010-2015 are non existent. Sacra Sureño free 2024.💯🚩🫡
In Corcoran shu 4B1R 2013 the ss from down south used to clown on g/gangster from howe park telling him he mind as well be from organ..hes from the north etc lol wtf u talkin about
I'm from the Town so you know what it is over but I speak with respect you did keep it a hunnit 💯 through the whole vid. I got fam from LA too tho.lol.
I’m from East San Jose and grew up in the 90s. I very rarely seen a sureño around and if I did they were always paisa type guys. Mexicanos. I knew there were sureño sets, mostly in heavily Mexicano areas, but rarely out n about if u will. The fact that there is homeboy type dudes (gang affiliates) in San Jose that are from San Jo repping Sur is a total trip to me… again, I’m from the 90s. However I do see how it can happen. Either where u were raised as far as neighborhoods go… u kick it with ur childhood/neighborhood homies and whether u are born in San Jose or not, if that neighborhood is Sur… I can see how u will affiliate with them. The reason I say it blows my mind is because now I think all Norteños and Sureños kind of look the same to pedestrians like me, not gang affiliated and older, so to me they all just look like homeboys from the same hood. Never occured to me that some are sureños. Ever. Gangsters don’t dress like in the 90s and aren’t all flamed out like before… well not as much at least. Any who… I like the non bias and I am the same even tho of course I’m born and raised here in San Jo. I say let’s keep it classy and peaceful if possible. ❤ ty for reading
Tell the real 408 San Jose nortenos that lost family members and friends killed by Sureños they will tell you different lots of blood shed in sj streetz
Vatos from down south give respect to the homies once they move north y miran como esta el pedo aca , the haters never been more than a block from their Barrio, saludos from sssj
@@M6family You vatos forget it’s Guerra in Sur SoCal, blue on blue warfare, Sureño vs Sureño. You think they respect or consider you upstate vatos on red light status.
They been saying that ain't nun new 😂😂 I like to say if we ain't real because we ain't from LA then what about homies who aren't from Cali tryna be Sureńos or norte they even from Cali so they must be not be real at all huh ?? 😂😂 🤡 thinking from them
If u outta state n ur big homie don't pay taxes or talk to real big homie u just a wanna be. N dats at da very least to b considered a real sureno. Other then dat a southsider in LA county more sureno then an outta stater.
Idk about North and South but I know guys look silly claiming Bloods or Crips outside of Cali 😂 Wiz Khalifa was claiming Crip in Pittsburgh and that shit was comedy to me 😂 Pittsburgh don’t even get down like that
Upstaters are definitely real ones im a norteno from san jo and the surenos out here are definitely real ones and ive been to the joint and uostaters have way more hands when it comes to catching a fade no disrespect but the upstaters have better hands than the surenos down south facts doesn't matter if you from the north or south if your repping yiur cause thats all that counts
The only people qualified to answer the question are Southsiders. Anyone else is just speculating. My opinion as a Northerner is that upstaters got just as much heart as any southsider from Los. In the 90's we slept on upstate hoods in San Jose and now they're thriving in places that used to be northern strongholds. Homies aren't gonna like this comment but I'm just stating facts. We used to say "they're not real Southsiders and the ones from Los dont respect them anyway"... Tell that to the homies that are now getting packed out by upstaters because they've gotten so deep in SJ.
thats what your homies get for behaving like chismosas and spreading fake propaganda like you said now they getting their issue, Thats what happens when you lie
Look bro, I like your videos and all and don't mean any disrespect at all but I'll tell you like this; I'm from LA and have lived in the IE and San Diego as well, I have never EVER bumped into a "downstate" Norteño... see how silly that sounds?....
Im a N and since the 90s i have heard of southsiders/surenos from So cal treat the nor cal surenos/Southsiders different they would usually put them on Frontline status etc etc im sure Im sure it's not all the vatos from so cal That feel like that but their is plenty that do feel like that tho
lol poncho should ask those real southsiders from LOS about the IE CAR or the other cars. Nothing but respect from real ones to my city and its recipricated pobrecita man bun that’s highly educated. Acts like a high schooler still
@@WestLosSalviLokz blazphemy. How can u b from a set u ain't ever been from? I've never understood how people can want to bang a hood dat ain't from they city. To want to b from another person's hood is crazy! Idk we rep home team all day where I'm from.
Nope It's about the 13 Letter, notice how the 13 letter is the M not the S Homies aint banging the S they really banging 13 the Sureno label just comes with it since thats where Eme recruited from mainly they quickly set up shop in Norcal Theres no geographical boundaries for the Trece but dumb busters think its about geography when it really about that money and the cause comes second
First and foremost if you ain’t from Califas you shouldn’t talk about either ranfla. Us sureños don’t talk about the ranfla from up north because there is solid gente up north. From down south to the double S homies up north much respect and salute.
The older I get the more I admire the SoCal Sureños, they conduct themselves righteously. Hardly ever see them posting disses to the north or spreading lies of their invincibility. Real SoCal Sur are too concerned with bucking at their enemigas or slammed with football sentences, booking foos.
Being a south or north sider isn't all about where you live. It's in the heart not in the land. Like Mundo said about white boy Hero Shy, he is Mexican in the his heart.
I kinda agree with you with what you said about in the heart, because I never really agreed with the Nortenos views doesn't mean I'm against them or want to be their enemies
U were on point with this 1...it's true it can be nortenos from Kansas and northerners be like that's right ene😂 forever forward...Also u right, it's always northerners saying down south homies Don't fk with upstate homies, (which is a lie) I never hear or heard homies down here disrespect homies just for being from upstate, if anything it's all love and respect for planting a flag and being Vasily outnumbered
Podcasters dont down talk surenos from up north, PODCASTERS…. but what i come to realize this whole cali youtube prison/street politic genre is all fake. All of em spew bs compared to how it is in the real world. Exept this one, this one makes most sense, i like the non bias
@@Salasixpolerohow he applies his logic to southsiders defeats his own narrative on his northern homies from outta state . Basically outta state nortenos aren’t real 🏝️
Pocho went to college in Southern California he moved back to Santa Rosa and acts like an active hardcore norteno but Santa Rosa park full of Sureños Shout out to the upstate sur rappers Skitzo felons we got Sureños hoods established with the business in every nor cal cities and Southern California 0 norteno free Double SS 13 controla Listo 😂🇲🇽🦈🔵👌💸
So the Norte from Southern California down in Bakersfield are not Norteños? Was the NF not started with MM members? Wasn't the MM running upstate before NF started, so why wouldn't there be OG Sureños upstate till this day? Anybody saying otherwise are hating on the real Gs.
I think people trip on that because to be born and raised in the North, how could a person say they a Sureno? It’s like, say someone was born and raised in the Florencia area of LA, but he told everyone he was a Norteno. Dudes would look at him like TF u mean you a Norteno? You aint ever stepped foot in northern Cali. No disrespect, I get it. Things have changed and expanded
Bro the xivers and the 14ers did kinda have a war and who ever didn’t really want to follow San Jose rules kinda became bulldogs. But from my understanding San Jose always had sureños from the beginning because most northern back in those times were under La eme
Why didn’t sur get accepted in Northern California school system because fools had a hard time speaking English most Norte are fast talking English get down different than wat there familys are doing. Don’t relate to Norte family or Norte individuals in school systems
An OG sureno told Me once the term SKRAP was a term coined for their upstate counter parts and created by down south surenos as a derogatory term towards the upstate. SKRAPZ = the leftovers from the SS ….not saying this is true …but This is what I heard ….
By claiming sur, you're representing southern california, simple. Any one from the northern cali claiming sur are generics . How can you say your sur when your from north side sanfransisco in northern cali? 😂 stay loyal to your soil!
Sur from LA coming up here to click up with upstaters because they curious about our get down they know sur northern Cali aren’t like them plenty of interviews first generation sur has made comments on other sur
How upstaters become. From southern conflict ran north n started back up facts most sur wasn’t accepted by Norte homies in school systems facts I know full family sur n one two or 3 joined Norte because they get down with Norte style can relate. I’m a Northerner wear Dallas cowboys all so played football 5 yrs ain’t about color you’ll learn when u get locked up foolios 😂 it’s about geography n style separating the two that’s how Nf was created. I wear blue walk up to sur in Sacramento tell em I’m Norte n knock oh boi out cold. Ain’t about color. Wats in ur heart. Sur ain’t stopping shit this Norte land sur couldn’t hack it in LA. Most my family members are Mexican mafia members n half my other family are northerners n NR members n NF members. Keep laughing to me I see weakness
@@JG99SC831 I’m the type of person I’ll risk everything even in my life just to have the enjoyment of putting fear in u in person n to know u couldn’t do shitt when u stand across from me. Where u from blood? I’ll address ur concerns anytime any hood Believe u ain’t the first clown head I’d knock off commenting ur two cents but will u agree old school squabble I got nothing but free time blood
Los ramfla got love for everyone including for the norteños facts los angeles car aré the brain of uniting all Raza .. up state title was a mistake .. up North homies thats what it was .why be a shame of using the North words..a sureño must be proud to fully represent whether Is south or North why use up state kids needs to stop being a shame and if you aré from the norte thats what it is tibbs and cuervo nf from ie casper from San Fernando nf they never said down state they were proud of being nf from down south
@@UpstatePOV NORETNO = Chicano from the NORTH sureno = Chicano from the south Simple sit there N think about it don’t keep moving the goal post it is what it is 🤷🏻♂️
@@junioravila-pi8ij noretno ?😂😂 tf . Your statement isn’t making any point . your just like a democrat . northerners hate paisas yet there moms look like a nopal . Southerners don’t .
@@junioravila-pi8ijyou’re wrong the term Norteño comes from Mexico norteño means people who are born in Chihuahua, Sinaloa, Baja, Sonora etc yall Northern Chicanos lol
Good video. A lot of it is generational. There is a difference between the early Upstate SS of the late 80s/early 90s and the SS of later generations. Things evolve over time - which isn’t unusual. To some degree you’re both right - it’s just you’re more accurate because you’re speaking on the here and now and more recent history. I will say for me personally, I have said many times that I do think Northerners not rooted in Northern CA and Southerners not rooted in Southern CA are odd - I don’t mean that disrespectfully or to suggest one is more or less “down” based on where they’re from. Fact is there are 2 organizations which created the North and South label and *they* decide who is and isn’t a member not anyone else. I have heard a couple SS from So Cal speak negative about Upstate SS but again this was 25 yrs ago - and it was only a couple - but you’re right that *today* I don’t hear any SS having the same critique. I have said and will continue to say you have a valuable voice in this space - I’ve learned some from you and that’s more than I can say for most channels in the prison / street / gang genre ✊🏼
Are you talking strictly gang territory or geographical? Anything north of Oxnard probably isn’t So Cal for some but would we expect those areas to be Norte? All the areas of Central Cal from Coast to the Central Valley aren’t really north or south. I know gang wise it’s a bit different but the reality is those areas in between have influence from both sides.
Gracias g i appreciate it, i just try to be as non biased as possible while keeping things blunt💯
Bro trying to clecha homeboys up that are from out of state is odd for real and that “flame” isn’t in most of them
Truthfully. That’s because they’re no generational or geographical ties to the actual cause
@@Salasixpoleroyou love wire wearing rats ese!!! Fake active Norte !😂 Your opinion is void ese!!! LAME.😂
@@UpstatePOVaye bro I appreciate you GOING IN ON PANOCHO. I sincerely dislike him. But Im not a creator so I can only leave comments
But ALL THE SHlT you said on here is literally verbatim all things I've told him on his comments section and he never responds cuz he knows I'm right .. hell respond to others who leave him unfavorable comments but never me cuz he knows I'll make him cry fasho
And what you said about how he was turned down when he was down here and that's Pretty much how he made all the friends he made that ALWAYS TRIES TO BRAG ABOUT (that prob wouldn't claim or recognize him at all in 2024) ... I think IS TRUE TO. I'VE SAID THAT TO HIM OVER A DOZEN TIMES.. and again he never responds or defends his position. Just keeps repeating his lies over and over. I really wish y'all content creators who are in this space that speak up on him CAN SERIOUSLY JUST CONTACT THE UNDERAGE GIRLS he was harassing when he worked for the city of Santa Rosa so everyone CAN FINALLY HAVE A GOOD ENOUGH REASON TO KICK HIM TO THE CURB and possibly get stomped out. Lol . Cuz all he does is take up space .. and deadass he's just a punchabIe face and like lefty said HES THE TYPE THAT ID LOVE TO PACK OUT AND PUT IT ON CAMERA JUST TO HUMILIATE HIM. bro sells big woof tickets i just wish all y'all could band together for one collective hit piece based on his deviance with minors. And get him deemed ALL BAD so he can just leave TH-cam and we don't have to deal with him
Shout Out to all the UpStaters!
baSURa
Listen closely to the lyrics in, RICO 2 SMOOVE, KEEP IT REAL.
My 💯 honest opinion like I wrote them bars.
@@AlStacks7 FAKE UpStateKILLA
UpState Paisa PlasticoKILLA
UpState fake wannabe SurKILLA
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The older I get the more I admire the SoCal Sureños, they conduct themselves righteously. Never seen them posting disses to the north or spreading lies of their invincibility. They are too concerned with bucking at their enemigas or slammed with football sentences, booking foos. Any non upstate who reads this, notice next time who is stating disses and lies, you’ll see. A chicano born and raised down south, born into the Sur13, a chicano born and raised in the North14, are the exact same perfect English speaking ethnic mex-Americans. Only difference being colors and geography.
3:39 Damn😂😂😂😂
Shout out all my South Siders up north !!! Keep applying pressure. They hate to see it
Listen closely to the lyrics in, RICO 2 SMOOVE, KEEP IT REAL.
My 💯 honest opinion like I wrote them bars.
The older I get the more I admire the SoCal Sureños, they conduct themselves righteously. Never seen them posting disses to the north or spreading lies of their invincibility. They are too concerned with bucking at their enemigas or slammed with football sentences, booking foos. Any non upstate who reads this, notice next time who is stating disses and lies, you’ll see. A chicano born and raised down south, born into the Sur13, a chicano born and raised in the North14, are the exact same perfect English speaking ethnic mex-Americans. Only difference being colors and geography.
Mr. Betterman 😂
LA/UPSTATE/OUTTA STATE🔵
3:39 😂😂😂
Listen closely to the lyrics in, RICO 2 SMOOVE, KEEP IT REAL.
My 💯 honest opinion like I wrote them bars.
It’s an #upstate thang , fuck a buster
Show some respect you sound like a little kid
@@raymondcaudillo3971 or what ?
Cultural brand huh?🤦 Get your life together, between us we know how you slip n slide through Sac trying to go unnoticed.
Slipping and sliding and occasionally ducking. 😂
There called NORTENO SURENOS “Upstate” is a coping word😂
I think I can speak on this..
I'm From Dallas Tejas aka "Upstate Texas"...
So we got "norte" and "Sur" (at least in my time)
We recognize where the "lifestyle" came from and pay respect, but we're PROUD of where WE from!!.
It's similar but Not the same, nortes mostly claim Black as their color and couple varrios even claim 13 for the 1300 block of their side(ndv13, vns13) and we got "Barrio 13" that claims red but don't claim norte or Sur..
We were introduced to the "Sureño Lifestyle" by 3 older Homeboys that came from East Side Longos 13 and they would be flamed up sometimes...
we only got 2 norte gangs that claim red and 14 both from the same varrio "Maham"...
As far as that nino guy, he from the country, Odessa and Midland are in the middle of nowhere...
Send mines from Upstate Tejas
🇨🇱🤞🏾👈🏾🇲🇽
Poncho be tryna show foos his wrestling moves 😂
I send mines! Real shit my boy
I send mine G 💯
A BIG WASSUP TO ALL THE SURENOS UP NORTH KEEP THESE BUSTERS ON CHECK... FROM THE COACHELLA VALLEY 760 SOUTHERN CALIFAS
Listen closely to the lyrics in, RICO 2 SMOOVE, KEEP IT REAL.
My 💯 honest opinion like I wrote them bars.
It’s a💯#Norte Rifa, fuk upstate paisa wannabes, upstate sKrapa K.
Give respect, Get respect, Norteños don’t start ish we end it.💯🫡
@@Mr.NorthSacra916Xfour rico 2 smoove got ko by a sureno in cya there's proof behind it
Respect to all upstate South siders from cv 155$t , there will never be a buster hood in the south side
Damn, and it's all because of super gangsters like you.🤣 Didn't lie, you practice saying fuck busters in the mirror right?
@@Vito-ck5svso any norteño from other states are piratas ? Because they’re not from northern Cali????
@@sombra65613 cali speaks on cali brother. Cali style!
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It’s true. Born in Nor cal, claiming a Nor cal city but saying you are a sureno? Talk to an upstater and a down south cat and you can tell who if from Nor cal. Should have just started their own thing like BB did.
Lots of dudes who are born on so cal Move to nor cal and become northsiders , vice verse . look up gangster gucci he was born in LA but became northsider in San Jose
Nel The 13 been Upstate since the 60s, The homies are from Socal Norcal Cencal East-Cal West-cal buster you name
Califas belongs to the Eses from San Diego to Pelican since day 1 pinche buster and you aint finna do nutin but cry on youtube to try nd get the LA foos to take ya side 😂💥💥💥Busta as chap
@@DukedozzitThat’s not what dude said, you misunderstood or misread important points.
😂 I send mines
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@@UpstatePOVWhy are you saluting this dude?
When LEFTY SAID "PANOCHO man that's the type of fool ... you wanna just pack out and catch it on camera ...Just to laugh more at his weird ass".
....I FELT THAT.
Left light weight got a lil sugar in the tank no?
@@norcal3696 lefty? Na ....iono if you see it cuz you're norteno and not feeling him...but bro solid and stand on business. Ya... he goes off and says what he says but he ain't never not once backed down or apologized for anything he's said. So at the end of the day.. he's standing on what he says.
Now if he was out here disrespecting and then apologizing the next day that's some hoe SHIT. But just cuz he speaks his mind and not afraid to say what he feels...that's not a negative in my book. So long as hes not backing down or turning down SHlT. He can say and do what he feels ..and so far he ain't turned down SHlT. 🤷🏻♂️
@@p__kingg Nothing personal, just from his first interview with negra my impression was he had feminine mannerisms. Thought I was tripping, but ppl in the comments were saying the same thing. On top of that I don't get the appeal of his music, do you hear him freestyle and think man bros gassing? I hear him repeating the same lines, weak bars....And not because he from the South. Chito gasses, heard some Raza from Dago gas. Shit king lil G go hard. Maybe I'm getting old and this is the new thing, but damn even his live shows I've seen on TH-cam, the crowd is watching like WTF is this .
Fuck pocho homies upstate are here to stay
Maybe, maybe not, they are no longer active here in Sacra like they were in the 90’s and early 2000’s. Haven’t even seen 1 in years.
They didn’t last in my city. Sacra had a few Sur hoods, or cliques I should say. They were strong and known to put in work in the 90’s and early 2000’s. But since 2010-2015 are non existent. Sacra Sureño free 2024.💯🚩🫡
Pocho don’t speak for nobody. He’s a bad look for Northern California . We don’t claim him for shit .
Can I? 😂 no mames pocho you have some explaining to do
These foos are fruit loops homie 😂😂
I know plenty homies that have NorCal tatted on them
In Corcoran shu 4B1R 2013 the ss from down south used to clown on g/gangster from howe park telling him he mind as well be from organ..hes from the north etc lol wtf u talkin about
You right on nortenos from the bay vs nortenos from the valley they act different each other. But in the end it’s all one cause 🔴🔴🔴🔴
I'm from the Town so you know what it is over but I speak with respect you did keep it a hunnit 💯 through the whole vid. I got fam from LA too tho.lol.
"We're from Northern California and proud of it" but call ourselves Southerners 🤦🏻♂️
They’re Sureños, which translates to southerners. It’s a lifestyle. It’s not hard to understand if you have a brain.
That’s called a “Wannabe” a “Poser” no other word or label more accurately fitting.
I'm from Upstate but I love L.A more yeee
STOCKTON TAPPING IN I LIKE THAT INTRO BEAT
I appreciate that G 💪🏼💯
I’m from East San Jose and grew up in the 90s. I very rarely seen a sureño around and if I did they were always paisa type guys. Mexicanos. I knew there were sureño sets, mostly in heavily Mexicano areas, but rarely out n about if u will. The fact that there is homeboy type dudes (gang affiliates) in San Jose that are from San Jo repping Sur is a total trip to me… again, I’m from the 90s. However I do see how it can happen. Either where u were raised as far as neighborhoods go… u kick it with ur childhood/neighborhood homies and whether u are born in San Jose or not, if that neighborhood is Sur… I can see how u will affiliate with them. The reason I say it blows my mind is because now I think all Norteños and Sureños kind of look the same to pedestrians like me, not gang affiliated and older, so to me they all just look like homeboys from the same hood. Never occured to me that some are sureños. Ever. Gangsters don’t dress like in the 90s and aren’t all flamed out like before… well not as much at least. Any who… I like the non bias and I am the same even tho of course I’m born and raised here in San Jo. I say let’s keep it classy and peaceful if possible. ❤ ty for reading
Mms 😂😂😂 that foo a weirdo we Active
This that bideo 🫡 … we gonna talk about this on a live , but upstaters and Norteños don’t want that peace?
Dudes from Texas wished they where from LA
Im from 818 SOUTHERN CALI and i dont call them up state homies they just homies rep that Blue and the 13!!!
My boi Listo 😂😂😂. What's up . 🤝🇮🇪 I'm Dublin Ireland true and true. HOMITO 😂😂
My boy Sean! 🤝🏼💯
Both sides happen to have a similar issue within each movement. We need to get this 💰💰💰💰💰💰.
Pocho the Panocha a drop out from Santa Rosa he from VSP he ain’t good in his hood everyone knows that overhere🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
What your name ?
@@PochoLivePodcast he waz to scared to say.
Why u scared be a man
Got heeeeem 😂😂😂😂😂
Tell the real 408 San Jose nortenos that lost family members and friends killed by Sureños they will tell you different lots of blood shed in sj streetz
How many of yall get smoked daily in the NORTH huh yall still ain’t got back for Jalisco 🤷🏻♂️ N San Jo
SUPER NET BANGER 🤡🤡🤡🤡
Ok ceaser
@@junioravila-pi8ij the two funeral vigils were for dead San Jose nortenos you can think what you want lil jr
@@Bigcarnal123 red on red super net bangin 😿 boi ain’t 🫵🏼 embarrassed yet fake ah NERD 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Bigcarnal123 the biggest NORTENO GROUPIE 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Sureno is a title you earn. ...
Vatos from down south give respect to the homies once they move north y miran como esta el pedo aca , the haters never been more than a block from their Barrio, saludos from sssj
@@M6family You vatos forget it’s Guerra in Sur SoCal, blue on blue warfare, Sureño vs Sureño. You think they respect or consider you upstate vatos on red light status.
Upstate lol ,,,, confused weirdos … Banging “ South Side “ but born and raised in the North 😂😂😂
They been saying that ain't nun new 😂😂 I like to say if we ain't real because we ain't from LA then what about homies who aren't from Cali tryna be Sureńos or norte they even from Cali so they must be not be real at all huh ?? 😂😂 🤡 thinking from them
Are u stupid … u know sureno was meant to be specific to souther California why u think norteno is a thing
If u outta state n ur big homie don't pay taxes or talk to real big homie u just a wanna be.
N dats at da very least to b considered a real sureno.
Other then dat a southsider in LA county more sureno then an outta stater.
You think you area sureño!! If you believe it then you are right?? How ever you know what the Los Angelitos Sureños think about you!!
@@severelychanged3679 what u talking about ima Compton sureno and we got nothing but love for the homies from all over the
Idk about North and South but I know guys look silly claiming Bloods or Crips outside of Cali 😂 Wiz Khalifa was claiming Crip in Pittsburgh and that shit was comedy to me 😂 Pittsburgh don’t even get down like that
Upstaters are definitely real ones im a norteno from san jo and the surenos out here are definitely real ones and ive been to the joint and uostaters have way more hands when it comes to catching a fade no disrespect but the upstaters have better hands than the surenos down south facts doesn't matter if you from the north or south if your repping yiur cause thats all that counts
The only people qualified to answer the question are Southsiders. Anyone else is just speculating. My opinion as a Northerner is that upstaters got just as much heart as any southsider from Los. In the 90's we slept on upstate hoods in San Jose and now they're thriving in places that used to be northern strongholds. Homies aren't gonna like this comment but I'm just stating facts. We used to say "they're not real Southsiders and the ones from Los dont respect them anyway"... Tell that to the homies that are now getting packed out by upstaters because they've gotten so deep in SJ.
I send mine G 🤝🏼💯
thats what your homies get for behaving like chismosas and spreading fake propaganda like you said now they getting their issue, Thats what happens when you lie
That’s why in Houston Texas when the surenos was talking down the 13 here United and become SK 😂. Now that jale ain’t allowed here .
@@Ucant.-fade_us With respect please rewrite and tighten up your post🙏💯 it’s not really understood
Look bro, I like your videos and all and don't mean any disrespect at all but I'll tell you like this; I'm from LA and have lived in the IE and San Diego as well, I have never EVER bumped into a "downstate" Norteño... see how silly that sounds?....
@@EscoThaDon626 so whats that supposed to mean?
@@UpstatePOV im saying that stuff sounds made up. Maybe that's why them dudes hate on "upstate" sureños
Im a N and since the 90s i have heard of southsiders/surenos from So cal treat the nor cal surenos/Southsiders different they would usually put them on Frontline status etc etc im sure Im sure it's not all the vatos from so cal That feel like that but their is plenty that do feel like that tho
Some claim LA hoods met some Nortenos dont even go by california rules some never heard of San Jo or Salinas
It’s the truth tho this upsates had no idea what sureño was
lol poncho should ask those real southsiders from LOS about the IE CAR or the other cars. Nothing but respect from real ones to my city and its recipricated pobrecita man bun that’s highly educated. Acts like a high schooler still
@@ShadowPitt If you’re trying to say you’re from a highly respected upstate city or town. CHALE💯
Aint southerners from da south?
Aint dat da point of a sureno?
It’s a gang name by logic 18 st should only be in 18 st but they world wide
@@WestLosSalviLokz blazphemy.
How can u b from a set u ain't ever been from?
I've never understood how people can want to bang a hood dat ain't from they city.
To want to b from another person's hood is crazy!
Idk we rep home team all day where I'm from.
Nope It's about the 13 Letter, notice how the 13 letter is the M not the S
Homies aint banging the S they really banging 13 the Sureno label just comes with it since thats where Eme recruited from mainly they quickly set up shop in Norcal
Theres no geographical boundaries for the Trece but dumb busters think its about geography when it really about that money and the cause comes second
Xorth in Mexico? now that's an oxymoron
I’ve never heard my homies say they’re southsiders I only heard upstaters or I’m from San jo
are upstate crips not crips
First and foremost if you ain’t from Califas you shouldn’t talk about either ranfla. Us sureños don’t talk about the ranfla from up north because there is solid gente up north. From down south to the double S homies up north much respect and salute.
@@Donmiguelgonzalez Mi RESPETO💯🇲🇽🫡
The older I get the more I admire the SoCal Sureños, they conduct themselves righteously. Hardly ever see them posting disses to the north or spreading lies of their invincibility. Real SoCal Sur are too concerned with bucking at their enemigas or slammed with football sentences, booking foos.
Being a south or north sider isn't all about where you live. It's in the heart not in the land. Like Mundo said about white boy Hero Shy, he is Mexican in the his heart.
Na.
U can't claim to b from a group dat u have nothing to do wit.
Lame excuses, Hollywood ass fake scrap actors!
I kinda agree with you with what you said about in the heart, because I never really agreed with the Nortenos views doesn't mean I'm against them or want to be their enemies
Is Homito a titled earned? Asking for a friend 😮
😂😂
intro song name
I guess him & lazy have some in common 😂
U were on point with this 1...it's true it can be nortenos from Kansas and northerners be like that's right ene😂 forever forward...Also u right, it's always northerners saying down south homies Don't fk with upstate homies, (which is a lie) I never hear or heard homies down here disrespect homies just for being from upstate, if anything it's all love and respect for planting a flag and being Vasily outnumbered
You're right homie shout out to all the upstate surenos.... from the Coachella valley 760 SoCal
Podcasters dont down talk surenos from up north, PODCASTERS…. but what i come to realize this whole cali youtube prison/street politic genre is all fake. All of em spew bs compared to how it is in the real world. Exept this one, this one makes most sense, i like the non bias
It’s all propaganda and opinions
@@Salasixpolero yeah even the comments are that as well. People take this as real life i guess 😂
Appreciate you bro 💯🤝🏼
@@UpstatePOV wtf where my thanks and appreciation
@@Salasixpolerohow he applies his logic to southsiders defeats his own narrative on his northern homies from outta state . Basically outta state nortenos aren’t real 🏝️
I fw the channel. That’s a whackass intro song. Is that you on the track? No barras 😂 keep pushing out the videos shoutout from RWC
Panocha1 just got exposed 😂, only reason he is trying to get relevant is talking about the SUR, but never click on her videos here.
They call them northernK southsiders
The real NKs
Yes sir 14k nk @@SOUTH_SIDE_NK
@@SOUTH_SIDE_NK🤣🤣🤣🤣 U foos are hella gay 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Bigcarnal123same profile replying to yo self is hella funny 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@junioravila-pi8ij we not same person you wierdo lol
TRUMP 2024!!😎
Pocho went to college in Southern California he moved back to Santa Rosa and acts like an active hardcore norteno but Santa Rosa park full of Sureños Shout out to the upstate sur rappers Skitzo felons we got Sureños hoods established with the business in every nor cal cities and Southern California 0 norteno free Double SS 13 controla Listo 😂🇲🇽🦈🔵👌💸
Not mine doggie 🇲🇽 never have 😂 and we are puro raza in my section
@@Decoto47Squad Newark and Decoto smells like a sewer pipe lol you know I'm right crossing that poop bridge 💩 🤣
nortenas from Florida, colorado, and Germany are not real nortays 😂
So the Norte from Southern California down in Bakersfield are not Norteños? Was the NF not started with MM members? Wasn't the MM running upstate before NF started, so why wouldn't there be OG Sureños upstate till this day?
Anybody saying otherwise are hating on the real Gs.
There’s no Norte in Bakersfield.
Also Bakersfield is Central, CA
I think people trip on that because to be born and raised in the North, how could a person say they a Sureno? It’s like, say someone was born and raised in the Florencia area of LA, but he told everyone he was a Norteno. Dudes would look at him like TF u mean you a Norteno? You aint ever stepped foot in northern Cali. No disrespect, I get it. Things have changed and expanded
This is stupid . That means only suerenos from Los Angeles are surenos ?
Shout out to the norteños who bang blue 😂 jk listo no llores vato it’s a joke don’t send lefty on me 😂
Shout out to all the Nachos whose founders are originally from the South.
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Bro the xivers and the 14ers did kinda have a war and who ever didn’t really want to follow San Jose rules kinda became bulldogs. But from my understanding San Jose always had sureños from the beginning because most northern back in those times were under La eme
Why you claim Sur then
Yes they do they claim hoods all over northern Cali like Clanton 14c, in yuba city they claim west Myrtle in the north bay they claim la primera. Etc
A YOU DONT COMMENT BK I HAVENT SEEN ONE
Why didn’t sur get accepted in Northern California school system because fools had a hard time speaking English most Norte are fast talking English get down different than wat there familys are doing. Don’t relate to Norte family or Norte individuals in school systems
I know older homies are calling them self northern surenos sounds better to me to be proud from upstate yet norte hate to seee it or hear it
An OG sureno told
Me once the term SKRAP was a term coined for their upstate counter parts and created by down south surenos as a derogatory term towards the upstate. SKRAPZ = the leftovers from the SS ….not saying this is true …but This is what I heard ….
Topic is stupid cuz outta state Sureños are real sureños ?
By claiming sur, you're representing southern california, simple. Any one from the northern cali claiming sur are generics . How can you say your sur when your from north side sanfransisco in northern cali? 😂 stay loyal to your soil!
You must not have met any of them,cause them cats are down just like the rest of us it's just that the dynamics are different
@Cerebro13 you're on a different topic. Thanks for sharing doh
@Beto-ck5sv if you're just basing your statement on physical location then yes I guess I am on another subject but statement remains true thank you
I THINK YOU ROCKING WHERE YOU FROM JUST SAYS YOU KEEPING IT 10 TOES DOWN ABOUT WHERE YOU FROM,WHY FAKE IT
Sur from LA coming up here to click up with upstaters because they curious about our get down they know sur northern Cali aren’t like them plenty of interviews first generation sur has made comments on other sur
Crash dummies it’s like saying allegedly the black hand members from upstate are not real big homies allegedly
How upstaters become. From southern conflict ran north n started back up facts most sur wasn’t accepted by Norte homies in school systems facts I know full family sur n one two or 3 joined Norte because they get down with Norte style can relate. I’m a Northerner wear Dallas cowboys all so played football 5 yrs ain’t about color you’ll learn when u get locked up foolios 😂 it’s about geography n style separating the two that’s how Nf was created. I wear blue walk up to sur in Sacramento tell em I’m Norte n knock oh boi out cold. Ain’t about color. Wats in ur heart. Sur ain’t stopping shit this Norte land sur couldn’t hack it in LA. Most my family members are Mexican mafia members n half my other family are northerners n NR members n NF members. Keep laughing to me I see weakness
Damn what grade did u get on this foo🤣 wrote a whole a** essay
@@JG99SC831 😂 took the time to read it 😂
@@JG99SC831 I’d 👋 u right now bby boi.
@@JG99SC831 if you were in front of me, what would make you think you can stop me from talking or slapping you just because I can.
@@JG99SC831 I’m the type of person I’ll risk everything even in my life just to have the enjoyment of putting fear in u in person n to know u couldn’t do shitt when u stand across from me. Where u from blood? I’ll address ur concerns anytime any hood Believe u ain’t the first clown head I’d knock off commenting ur two cents but will u agree old school squabble I got nothing but free time blood
this podcaster is a drop out so he couldn't hang !!! pocho not a norteno
It’s all about nortereno F-13 northern bulldog ryders all day ….
Los ramfla got love for everyone including for the norteños facts los angeles car aré the brain of uniting all Raza .. up state title was a mistake .. up North homies thats what it was .why be a shame of using the North words..a sureño must be proud to fully represent whether Is south or North why use up state kids needs to stop being a shame and if you aré from the norte thats what it is tibbs and cuervo nf from ie casper from San Fernando nf they never said down state they were proud of being nf from down south
lol Bs for a reason 😂😂
Who cares lol grow up
All that shit iis just ignorant
Keep it real then yall are a generic version of south siders del NORTE 🤷🏻♂️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 can’t say I’m lyin
You feel the same about your homeboys out of state? 😂
@@UpstatePOV NORETNO = Chicano from the NORTH
sureno = Chicano from the south
Simple sit there N think about it don’t keep moving the goal post it is what it is 🤷🏻♂️
@@junioravila-pi8ij noretno ?😂😂 tf . Your statement isn’t making any point . your just like a democrat . northerners hate paisas yet there moms look like a nopal . Southerners don’t .
@@junioravila-pi8ijyou’re wrong the term Norteño comes from Mexico norteño means people who are born in Chihuahua, Sinaloa, Baja, Sonora etc yall Northern Chicanos lol
@@sombra65613 callate mija we talkin cali politics 🤡