Well twelve year old me loved the title screen music! That jumbly tune kinda made me think of an electric guitar solo gone crazy... and yes, in hindsight, it did remind me of Zappa once I found out about his music.
Wow thank you very much for your answer M. Sanger ! It's a great pleasure to hear about the story of the creation of Rad Gravity music, as I play this great NES game since my childhood (and I'm also composer, specialised in film music) and as I'm preparing a video about Rad Gravity on my channel LORD PADDLE (about retrogaming), I made a part of the video about your music, I'll probably add a bit of your video if you give me your permission please ! Thank you very much, this was very interesting, and I'll always continue to hear your work ! See you later. PS : I'll send you the link of the video when it'll be online, of course, the next week ! :)
@@GeorgeASanger Thank you ! Your anecdote about the 12-tone row is just great! I am a french composer, I studied musicology at the faculty in France, I studied Schoenberg, Berg, Webern, twelve-tone and serial music (I also studied some "serial" film music like Leonard Rosenman's THE COBWEB, the Main Titles from Jerry Goldsmith's PLANET OF THE APES, and some serial music from Goldsmith's THE ILLUSTRATED MAN) but I had never made the connection before ! It's great. Well seen for the influences of Devo, Frank Zappa, Led Zeppelin and Rocky and Bullwinkle ! Frankly this intro is superb, this one and that of "Planets" tune marked me for life since my childhood. Thank you for all the wonderful info and again well done for your wonderful work on "Bright Star" / "Rad Gravity" ! We'll talk about it and mention your video in our video on Rad Gravity next week. I'll keep you informed ! We keep in touch ! See you soon Mr. Sanger ! ;)
Yep...thanks! and thinking about it today, I remember/realize that the melody has some "Peter and the Wolf" DNA- that's another one that Dave W. encouraged me to aspire to.
the manic rocky and bullwinkle theme was always one of my favorites, and hearing it was one of the inspirations for the rad gravity theme (which i took an immediate liking to) makes all the more sense
I'm really glad that TH-cam recommended this video to me! I enjoyed listening to you talk that whole time! Also, I never knew that Red Gravity, a game I enjoyed so much growing up, was considered to have the "worst game soundtrack ever", which is weird because I can't agree with that at all lol I hope you see this comment and have a great day 😊
I love the music in Rad Gravity! As a kid and as an adult. Maniac Mansion and Swords and Serpents too. Games I played so much as a kid with a friend. The Rad Gravity intro used to make us laugh because it's instant controlled chaos and fits the game. It's funny how much impact these tunes made on me. Just hearing them inmediately takes me back to those (better) days, bringing a smile to my face. Thank you for that! Super cool to hear how Rad Gravity's intro theme came to be. Greetings from the Netherlands!
Haha! Wonderful and extremely gratifying to hear from you. Thanks so much! Yeah, I had faith that there would be a few good ears out there, thirsty for that kind of craziness. Again, thanks to Dave W. for encouraging that. You've given me inspiration as I go into my next gig to risk maybe getting a bit edgy again. Maybe 20-30 years after it comes out I'll get another message from you?!? :D And I'll be all "yep, I thought so." Have a great weekend!
@@GeorgeASanger Haha getting curious now. Keep us posted on your channel and I'll get back to you in 20 years! ;-) Keep writing that legendary stuff! Have a great weekend!
Thanks for the breakdown. I loved this game as a kid and I always thought the music was cool. Also has anyone ever told you that you look like Ed Begley Jr.
:D Glad you like it, Sam! And...no Ed Begleys yet, this is #1. Let's see if the floodgates open and the rest of the Ed Begley comparisons start rolling in.
This song is very dissonant and reminds me if Fredrik Thordendal from Meshuggah were to do an 8 bit guitar solo. Not sure if you have heard of Fredrik Thordendal from Meshuggah but he does very dissonant guitar solos and his solo album is quite the trip of djent, jazz, and dissonance. It's called Special Defects - Sol Niger Within th-cam.com/video/KLhSFATOhW0/w-d-xo.html
I think I may have said this on Facebook a while back, but I don't think it was the composition that was the issue so much as the translation of the encouraged weirdness to the NES sound chip. Or maybe more specifically the reusing of his Maniac Mansion "instruments", or whatever the correct term would be here. Like, if you compare Rad Gravity to his version of the MM opening, you can definitely hear the similarities in instrumentation (again, this is probably not the right word). Had they been adjusted a bit (maybe less release on the melody?) it probably would have been just fine. This is one of those cases where I really would love to hear what it sounded like before you handed it over to him. Especially after you told me years ago about how the process worked, and given how historically good Warhol was at translating what you did, this one's always been a head-scratcher for me- albeit one I appreciate more now that you explained it.
Believe it or not...I FOUND THE MIDI FILE yesterday. I normally used an MT-32 to guide my composing, but the patch numbers don't make sense on MT-32. I am thinking I might have been experimenting with a Proteus sound module at the time and may have used that for reference.
exACTly. WONKA I had to test you, Charlie. And you passed the test! You won! GRANDPA JOE Won what?! WONKA The jackpot, my dear sir! The grand and glorious jackpot!
DUDE. I'm so happy you came forward to make a video about this. All my life I've been hearing people talk shit about your songs in this video game. But I absolutely love them and I could still hear them in my head on demand today 30 years later. Well done. And I've been comparing it to Frank Zappa all these years and I'm glad that you just mentioned that
@@shipped_my_pants_3000 www.mobygames.com/person/119/george-alistair-sanger/credits/ is a pretty good take on it. This one was a little more under my control and may be more accurate for that period web.archive.org/web/20170808105730/www.fatman.com/faqs.htm
Honestly I liked the overworld theme and the boss theme more than the title screen music. I'm curious about the voice "FAREWELL TIL' WE MEET AGAIN!" Did one of the staff who made the game just shout that and put that in? XD
Interesting. I always thought the music was very different. I don't know if I think it was bad. The music absolutely makes me laugh, and in a funny way, not a bad way ^^ it's a good way to hit someone with something very different ^^ the ending theme is really good. Definitely talented. Video game music has always been a big part if my musical life and I think a lot of video game music is overlooked and underappreciated. Not to me though, at least.Thank you for making this video.
Weird yes, but in an understandable way, unlike the many chinese bootleg NES games with terrible music. Maybe this was partly in the back of my mind when composed this song for a modern NES game: th-cam.com/video/Ch-1r7PwG4k/w-d-xo.html - it's definitely less crazy but definitely not a "normal" sounding track either.
Hi M. Sanger ! There's the link to our new video about "Rad Gravity", featuring a part of your video. Good viewing and thanks for your participation ! See you later ! th-cam.com/video/06Own-8omls/w-d-xo.html
@@TrailHaunter Dave W. was my connection to the gig; I basically worked for him on that one (and as always it was a pleasure). MobyGames has him listed as a composer. Actually, now that I look on Moby Games, I am thinking maybe I didn't have Team Fat yet, just me and Dave Govett working together. And I see that Chris Grig composed on it, too--we became pals years later. He was in the notoriously irrepressible artistic band Negativland.
@@GeorgeASanger I didn’t realize Team Fat was around that far back. I thought you formed that right around the same time as The 7th Guest came out. That’s pretty rad that you guys went back that far.
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Well twelve year old me loved the title screen music! That jumbly tune kinda made me think of an electric guitar solo gone crazy... and yes, in hindsight, it did remind me of Zappa once I found out about his music.
Well, thanks! From 12 year old me!!
immediately recognized how brilliant this tune was when I first heard it. It always reminded me of the dissonant riffs that Voivod would play.
Turns out _you're_ the genius!! :D Thanks
Wow thank you very much for your answer M. Sanger ! It's a great pleasure to hear about the story of the creation of Rad Gravity music, as I play this great NES game since my childhood (and I'm also composer, specialised in film music) and as I'm preparing a video about Rad Gravity on my channel LORD PADDLE (about retrogaming), I made a part of the video about your music, I'll probably add a bit of your video if you give me your permission please ! Thank you very much, this was very interesting, and I'll always continue to hear your work ! See you later. PS : I'll send you the link of the video when it'll be online, of course, the next week ! :)
Very good! Feel free to use the video :D
@@GeorgeASanger Thank you ! Your anecdote about the 12-tone row is just great! I am a french composer, I studied musicology at the faculty in France, I studied Schoenberg, Berg, Webern, twelve-tone and serial music (I also studied some "serial" film music like Leonard Rosenman's THE COBWEB, the Main Titles from Jerry Goldsmith's PLANET OF THE APES, and some serial music from Goldsmith's THE ILLUSTRATED MAN) but I had never made the connection before ! It's great. Well seen for the influences of Devo, Frank Zappa, Led Zeppelin and Rocky and Bullwinkle ! Frankly this intro is superb, this one and that of "Planets" tune marked me for life since my childhood. Thank you for all the wonderful info and again well done for your wonderful work on "Bright Star" / "Rad Gravity" ! We'll talk about it and mention your video in our video on Rad Gravity next week. I'll keep you informed ! We keep in touch ! See you soon Mr. Sanger ! ;)
When you break it down like that, it makes you think: that's a lot of decades and genres and styles and influences all mashed together.
Yep...thanks! and thinking about it today, I remember/realize that the melody has some "Peter and the Wolf" DNA- that's another one that Dave W. encouraged me to aspire to.
the manic rocky and bullwinkle theme was always one of my favorites, and hearing it was one of the inspirations for the rad gravity theme (which i took an immediate liking to) makes all the more sense
I would like to hear a Rad Gravity music Chiptune for the TurboGrafx16.
I'm really glad that TH-cam recommended this video to me! I enjoyed listening to you talk that whole time!
Also, I never knew that Red Gravity, a game I enjoyed so much growing up, was considered to have the "worst game soundtrack ever", which is weird because I can't agree with that at all lol
I hope you see this comment and have a great day 😊
Rad Gravity has some of the most interesting video game music I ever listened to! People need to open their ears and their minds.
Well, now, thank you for that. Looks like another good morning, full of kind people with open ears. (sips coffee and smiles)
I love the music in Rad Gravity! As a kid and as an adult. Maniac Mansion and Swords and Serpents too. Games I played so much as a kid with a friend. The Rad Gravity intro used to make us laugh because it's instant controlled chaos and fits the game. It's funny how much impact these tunes made on me. Just hearing them inmediately takes me back to those (better) days, bringing a smile to my face. Thank you for that! Super cool to hear how Rad Gravity's intro theme came to be. Greetings from the Netherlands!
Haha! Wonderful and extremely gratifying to hear from you. Thanks so much! Yeah, I had faith that there would be a few good ears out there, thirsty for that kind of craziness. Again, thanks to Dave W. for encouraging that. You've given me inspiration as I go into my next gig to risk maybe getting a bit edgy again. Maybe 20-30 years after it comes out I'll get another message from you?!? :D And I'll be all "yep, I thought so." Have a great weekend!
@@GeorgeASanger Haha getting curious now. Keep us posted on your channel and I'll get back to you in 20 years! ;-) Keep writing that legendary stuff! Have a great weekend!
Someone should locate those original midi files in Texas so we can hear this piece in its full glory.
Thanks for the breakdown. I loved this game as a kid and I always thought the music was cool. Also has anyone ever told you that you look like Ed Begley Jr.
:D Glad you like it, Sam! And...no Ed Begleys yet, this is #1. Let's see if the floodgates open and the rest of the Ed Begley comparisons start rolling in.
This song is very dissonant and reminds me if Fredrik Thordendal from Meshuggah were to do an 8 bit guitar solo. Not sure if you have heard of Fredrik Thordendal from Meshuggah but he does very dissonant guitar solos and his solo album is quite the trip of djent, jazz, and dissonance. It's called Special Defects - Sol Niger Within th-cam.com/video/KLhSFATOhW0/w-d-xo.html
I think I may have said this on Facebook a while back, but I don't think it was the composition that was the issue so much as the translation of the encouraged weirdness to the NES sound chip. Or maybe more specifically the reusing of his Maniac Mansion "instruments", or whatever the correct term would be here. Like, if you compare Rad Gravity to his version of the MM opening, you can definitely hear the similarities in instrumentation (again, this is probably not the right word). Had they been adjusted a bit (maybe less release on the melody?) it probably would have been just fine.
This is one of those cases where I really would love to hear what it sounded like before you handed it over to him. Especially after you told me years ago about how the process worked, and given how historically good Warhol was at translating what you did, this one's always been a head-scratcher for me- albeit one I appreciate more now that you explained it.
Believe it or not...I FOUND THE MIDI FILE yesterday. I normally used an MT-32 to guide my composing, but the patch numbers don't make sense on MT-32. I am thinking I might have been experimenting with a Proteus sound module at the time and may have used that for reference.
This video is a gem
Yo the Rad Gravity music is insanely good
:D
I just heard it. And I love it. WHAT TOOL DID YA USE!??
exACTly.
WONKA
I had to test you, Charlie. And you passed the test! You won!
GRANDPA JOE
Won what?!
WONKA
The jackpot, my dear sir! The grand and glorious jackpot!
Ohhhh that’s not true, one of my favorite !!!! Really crazy music !!
DUDE. I'm so happy you came forward to make a video about this. All my life I've been hearing people talk shit about your songs in this video game. But I absolutely love them and I could still hear them in my head on demand today 30 years later. Well done. And I've been comparing it to Frank Zappa all these years and I'm glad that you just mentioned that
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@@GeorgeASanger what other NES titles did you contribute music to?
@@shipped_my_pants_3000 www.mobygames.com/person/119/george-alistair-sanger/credits/ is a pretty good take on it. This one was a little more under my control and may be more accurate for that period web.archive.org/web/20170808105730/www.fatman.com/faqs.htm
Honestly I liked the overworld theme and the boss theme more than the title screen music. I'm curious about the voice "FAREWELL TIL' WE MEET AGAIN!" Did one of the staff who made the game just shout that and put that in? XD
Haha...no idea!! It wasn't me. I only wrote the music. And played the game, like, once for ten minutes. :P Glad you liked the music!!!!
Interesting. I always thought the music was very different. I don't know if I think it was bad. The music absolutely makes me laugh, and in a funny way, not a bad way ^^ it's a good way to hit someone with something very different ^^ the ending theme is really good. Definitely talented. Video game music has always been a big part if my musical life and I think a lot of video game music is overlooked and underappreciated. Not to me though, at least.Thank you for making this video.
"The music absolutely made me laugh" feels gratifying to me--thanks!
@@GeorgeASanger Yes, and in a good way :) It is meant as a compliment :)
This is really awesome
I think it's really good
it rocks 👌
Congratulations are in order.
Weird yes, but in an understandable way, unlike the many chinese bootleg NES games with terrible music. Maybe this was partly in the back of my mind when composed this song for a modern NES game: th-cam.com/video/Ch-1r7PwG4k/w-d-xo.html - it's definitely less crazy but definitely not a "normal" sounding track either.
Hi M. Sanger ! There's the link to our new video about "Rad Gravity", featuring a part of your video. Good viewing and thanks for your participation ! See you later ! th-cam.com/video/06Own-8omls/w-d-xo.html
Galg.. i was gonna say it was galg.
Which makes you two, absolutely nothing! #spaceballs
Right on! We were listening to our guru when this comment came in, and he was saying exactly the same thing... :D
@@GeorgeASanger didn’t Dave Warhol do a lot of the music for Maniac Mansion too?
@@TrailHaunter Dave W. was my connection to the gig; I basically worked for him on that one (and as always it was a pleasure). MobyGames has him listed as a composer. Actually, now that I look on Moby Games, I am thinking maybe I didn't have Team Fat yet, just me and Dave Govett working together. And I see that Chris Grig composed on it, too--we became pals years later. He was in the notoriously irrepressible artistic band Negativland.
@@GeorgeASanger I didn’t realize Team Fat was around that far back. I thought you formed that right around the same time as The 7th Guest came out. That’s pretty rad that you guys went back that far.