Okay these pricing is beyond craziness. With the new 16kw LG you can do so much more and pay allot less. Even the old 10 KW LG's we were selling for $7,500 in Costa Rica and that included a 32% tax 🤯.
That's $1,915.70 per kWh at the 40 kWh price discount! Batteries are headed toward $100/kWh for vehicles, and that will be available to other industries by late 2022.
This is honestly the biggest thing holding me back from buying a home backup battery system. The price per kWh is insanely high vs the rest of the industry. I’m more inclined to get an EV that has vehicle to home capability to get the best value for my money and a higher capacity battery.
I already have an 11.1kW Enphase (IQ7) system installed on my house. You talked about how much it would cost to install a complete turnkey solar PV array WITH Encharge battery back up. What I want to know is how much it would cost to install a minimal (but scalable) encharge system on my existing PV array.
These prices are hilarious, even at the supposed discount. You can DIY a 10 kw PV system with 30 kwh worth of battery and 20 kw worth of inverters for $20-25k. That is some impressively inflated install and profit overhead.
@@enkrypt3d Not for enphase batteries, they're expensive, but you can do a PV system using enphase micro inverters for a reasonable price. The batteries are the most expensive part of the system but there are much cheaper options available.
@@Son37Lumiere Just built a 15.3kwh LiFePO4 bank for $3500. 13kw split phase UL certification inverter $ 2400. 9.5kw inverter generator for standby $2200. 8.3kw PV $3,600. It’s out there, you just have to hunt and know what you’re doing. Not that hard to do. Completely off grid
Why did you do the pricing like that? You did a whole system not just the battery which made it really hard to see the pricing difference of just the battery… especially for people who already have solar.
Your company are charging roughly $11,500 for each additional Encharge 10. I can purchase that same battery for literally $6720. Do you really bring an additional $4800 worth of added value to the job for every additional battery? If you’re already there to do one why is scaling up the job so cost prohibitive?
Well… if there weren’t other components needed to install the battery and you’re not taking into account labor or reasonable profit, then I guess you’d make sense. The truth is that 11,500 for an encharge 10 OTD is a killer deal and the solar companies aren’t even really making that much money from them. Batteries are more being used as an area to prove you’re an expert and to help get the solar contract.
@@Superiorsolarconsulting I just got a quote using all Enphase converters and a single encharge 10 battery and the company wants 14.8k to install the single encharge 10 battery. Tesla wants 17k for two powerwall+ units if I buy their panels. The Tesla battery is at minimum 30% better specs of the encharge 10. I'd have 26kWh vs. 20. Installation cost of a battery system should be 2-3k. So I'd expect 2 encharge 10's for about 15-6k all in is a fair price still leaving profit for the installer.
@@peterlaporte4878 the Tesla Powerwall may have slightly more capacity but is far inferior in battery chemistry. What entails going into the battery install is a lot more than the just the battery which you’re not taking into account. I’m doing Encharge 10 installs for between 13-14k and there is not a lot of money being made.
I'm just a consumer who tries to do as much homework as I can. Both Encharge and Tesla have similar battery warranties. Actually Tesla is better with 10yr/ unlimited cycles so tell me what the battery composition with Encharge gets me for about $5k more per battery. I honestly think both over engineer so it's likely they go past 10 and maintain a decent capacity. You know more about the install, BUT as a consumer if I get one battery installed, the second battery should be much cheaper to install. At least they are with power walls where they stack them. I was just quoted $25k for two encharge 10 batteries. That's $12.5k per battery. It's $14k for one. If someone could explain why that is, when I could buy the battery for $7k on the encharge site. How much is labor and how much is other product needed to install the battery? $250 x 8 is $2000. Does it take 8 hours to install batteries? Does it take double the effort and double the product for two encharge batteries? Enlighten me please.
Do you work with the California PACE program? I have solar with Enphase microinverters and I'd like to add a battery backup system soon. My next project! Thanks.
Per the numbers in this video, it’s a $5000 difference, old to new given a simple 10k battery system. Now I know this includes other items that are also lower price, but still seems decent.
That $41,910 is for a complete "turn-key" solar system including the solar panels. That's why you don't see the price double when you double the number of batteries.
Pricing provided is also worst case installation scenario for the battery backup portion. We’ve had several 2xE10 projects with 10kW solar systems for around $50k.
I've been quoted $14,500 installed by Gold Rush Energy for the Encharge 10. Also, please verify if you can. They are claiming that when the power grid is down, the grid forming feature of the battery, when the Enphase microinverters are installed on the panels, allows the output of the battery to increase by up to 1 amp per panel (when the sun is shining).
If you have an existing system in place, no. But if you don’t then yes, you need additional equipment. But the key thing is software, consumers can’t commission the systems only Enphase Ensemble Certified technicians can
You're 3 times higher the price I received from 2 weeks ago on an Encharge 10 ($15,500). You won't sell very many at that price. And the original company that installed my 29 panels a year and a half ago quoted me a price of $17,500 turnkey for an Encharge 10, last week. As of 1 week ago now a solar company in OKC OK will install an Encharge 10 financed through them for $15,300 OR it's $12,000 cash installed (you could finance it your own way and use the cash option). Don't forget the 26% tax credit!!!
With the current iQ7 microinverters customers do not have ability to produce power (directy from PV system) ; with one Enphase 10 battery does it contain the NEW iQ8 microinverters installed and allow the PV to function grid down sunny day while keeping the battery full saving battery energy for sundown/grid down time? I believe many people, including myself are holding out/waiting for iQ8 PV microinverters release. But, if customer goes with older iQ7/cheaper inverters (when 8's releaseed) and plans to immediately add Enphase battery, would customer not get the same affect just by adding current iQ8 installed battery backup making the PV iQ8's a moot point?
You need both the battery AND the Enpower switch for the PV system to function if the grid goes down. In other words, with just a battery, you can't go off grid.
IQ8 in the battery can provide the frequency and voltage reference for the IQ7pv to function in a grid down environment. The beauty of IQ8PVapor wear is it’s supposed to not need a battery to provide off grid power when the sun is shining.
As I understand it, in an off grid system the number of operational IQ7s in your system is limited by the number of IQ8s in your battery. So if you have 20 IQ7s and 12IQ8s in your battery, the Ensemble system will shutdown/throttle 8 of your IQ7s when the grid goes down so that the IQ7s don't "overpower" the IQ8s.
@@Taedrin The ratio is no more than 150% IQ PV MICROINVERTERS to battery IQ8 INVERTERS. See page 10 of the following tech brief. store.enphase.com/storefront/en-us/pub/media/productattach/t/e/tech-brief-planning-ensemble-technology-system-en-us_compressed.pdf
Maybe I can slowly scale up. Annually. 1st yr. Some solar only. Then 1 battery. Next year some solar. Next 2nd battery. So on so on... so annually I can apply for green federal and state and city local rebates
Question.. Where do you show the total KW system size attached to these batteries? obviously, this isn't a battery-only price. The only way I can analyze your video data is the total equation. Regardless, the knowledge yall spread is second 2 none. Much appreciated.
Wow sticker shock ! My system has 56kwh's chevy volt batteries, 16000w of used panels and 18000w of inverters all for a $30k investment. I'm 5 years off grid with my system now old 1.5 y to pay off.
I just had a 36 panel 340 watt each install through infenergy solar! So it is a 12.3kw system! they talked me out of a battery back up system! I now want a enphase battery installed. Yes it will cost me more at first but, I will not have to pay duke energy for the electricty we consume in the evening while we are home using the most electrcity!
Affordable... Ha! Thanks for the info. You have convinced me stay the hell away from Enphase. This explains why the guy trying to sell me on Enphase inverters keeps trying to tell me I don't need battery backup and doesn't even want to give me a quote for batteries. Just keeps saying I can add later.
If you were considering having solar installed, please think carefully before signing with Soleria Solar Or or Enphase. My system has been installed since September 9 months later and it still does not work. They've been out here and worked on it several times and it still doesn't work. Now I get some of the highest electric bills I've ever had and and a loan that I'm making payments... They don't ask for phone calls or return messages left.. I don't know if they're messing with me or just Incompetent......
There's some misinformation here what about generacs during a power outage that's a DC coupled the battery doesn't pick it up the solar system does if it's during the day.
I need a new solar plan set made, I used solar wholesale and it turned into a nightmare. My plans are wrong due to the main panel and I need to pay to get new ones. I have enphase micro inverters on my 5kw diy system
Way to expensive ... just use the grid as your battery or get the BYD LFP Batteries and by a hybrid inverter. Great system enphase but it is way out of reach due to supply and price.
The smarter individual would *maybe* let you install one battery like the 3.3 then purchase the remainder on the open market. You are over charging your customers for Encharge.
That’s a great idea but homeowners will need to go through an Enphase certification course to commission the system. Furthermore we do over estimate in our videos as a pre-caution as we’re designing for worst case over complex installations. That’s why we emphasize getting a quote.
You forgot to add that only your installers have access to install soft ware . I want to install micro invert system I bought second hand enphase installer refused only interested in new install (more money )so regular installer could not install. same with battery bought second hand charged to check and install it has never worked properly enphase not interested . If you purchase this system you are at the mercy of enphase . Not surge protected as my battery burnt out after power surge. 2 yrs after install
These MSRP numbers + solar installer tax + labor are crazy. You will never see stuff like this go mainstream when the low-tier option is more than half a year's pay for most people. I know the wholesale prices vs. MSRP hurts the credibility of solar installers. I bought new in-the-box IQ8M inverters for 33% less than MSRP from an installers surplus on eBay, and they still made money. It also does not help that even in this video, he is constantly trying to sell his installation service when most people are looking for just pricing information on the batteries. All solar information seems to just be out to be an advertisement.
Overall informative but LiFePO4 are not new...and have been the dominant lithium ion battery for 20+ years. Tesla and others used a Lithium ion cells with a more expensive higher voltage cathode for the last 5 years. High voltage more capacity but more expensive, shorter life and not as safe. Keep up the good work
With the current cost of my rural electricity I would still NEVER break even on the system in my lifetime and at the end of ten years you most likely have to buy what appears to be another $30-$50K worth of batteries. At this market point Solar will never be more than a convenience for the rich.
In 10 years you'll probably see triple to 4x times capacity at that price point. meaning todays battery will cost far less. oil and gas prices keep going up.. the difference between solar and oil.. is oil takes a lot longer to be generated by the earth than the 8 minutes it takes for the sun light to travel to earth.. honestly the price is prohibitive for me.. but there are resources i'm looking into that help mitigate it. fingers cross your electricity stays low in your life time my guy,
@@totesmagoats1985 Once again the 8 minutes is not the issue!! That is the greatest gift it is the hours of labor, research, and cost of natural resources (just like for oil) it takes to make the panels and batteries and keep replacing them that is the complete puzzle. If sun light was 24/7 your argument would be valid but it is not so for a fair comparison power 24/7 has to be part of the puzzle. I envision a simple over night power storage like a tank that solar fills with water over night and then a highly efficient turbo generator (with friction free magnetic bearings) that uses the potential energy in the water to generate power overnight as the water is fed back into a tank at a lower elevation. Pump and tank size could be matched to demand over night. Greed with always increase the cost of ANY power source. Eliminating the resources you have to purchase to use power is the key to freedom from greed to get energy. Buying panels every 20 years and batteries every ten years is still keeping you tied to a resource flow that can explode in price once you have no other choices.
They're still ridiculously over priced at $41,000 for only 10 KwH. For that much money, I can buy 3 new Powerwall 2 Pluses at the current price of $12,000 each, have them installed for $4,000 and still have $1,000 in my pocket. That would give me 39 KwH compared to just 10 KwH with the Enphase. It would cost over $76,000 to get the same amount of available energy from an Enphase system , EVEN AT THE REDUCED PRICE.
That $41K is for a complete "turn-key" solar system including the solar panels. That's why his price only went up by $11K when he added a second battery to the system and not another $41K.
@@remaininlight6935 No it doesn't. That's just for the batteries. There's no solar panels, or micro-inverters in that price. Just the batteries and equipment needed to connect to the panels, house and grid.
@@btrotta Yes, it does include the solar panels and the micro-inverters and everything else you need for a complete "turn-key" solar system as stated in the video. If just one battery costs $41K, then why does adding a second battery only cost $11K more? I suggest you re-watch the video.
It is for a turnkey solar system using 21 QCELLS 380 and IQ7+ micros. Pricing is a little more generally in our videos to account for more complex battery backup installations. Most customers have and will pay less than what’s shown.
I wish you guys were or had an affiliate in my area!! Great job!! Once again if you could refer me to someone in Jacksonville, NC it would be greatly appreciated!!
1) How do these compare to the Generac Powercell systems? 2) Why don't you tell people the truth, that they don't get those tax credits if their income comes from a non-taxable source.
Okay we can see there's a lot of bias here, let's talk about the stability of the corporation of enphase. Who has a history of almost going bankrupt but had to be bailed out. Why would you build a battery that's only 3 KW when the industry for homes is above 10.
He's a Tesla hater. Every video he does he has to say something bad about Tesla. I'm definitely not a Tesla fanboy, but his obsession with badmouthing them is really annoying.
If you live in a area that has mild weather and do not need a/c and plan on using your most electricity using equipment when the sun is shining, you would be fine with 3 kWh.
Okay these pricing is beyond craziness. With the new 16kw LG you can do so much more and pay allot less. Even the old 10 KW LG's we were selling for $7,500 in Costa Rica and that included a 32% tax 🤯.
I've got 11kw 28 REC 400 with IQ8+ and 10kw Enphase battery which covers until 9 pm most days. How much would an additional 3 kWh battery cost?
Depends on where you live but permitted and installed probably around ~$10,000-12,000
I need to know the battery chemistry.?
This is good news. I have solar with Enphase microinverters and I really want to add a battery system. Time to take another look at pricing.
Do you do East Coast of Florida?
That's $1,915.70 per kWh at the 40 kWh price discount! Batteries are headed toward $100/kWh for vehicles, and that will be available to other industries by late 2022.
This is honestly the biggest thing holding me back from buying a home backup battery system. The price per kWh is insanely high vs the rest of the industry. I’m more inclined to get an EV that has vehicle to home capability to get the best value for my money and a higher capacity battery.
I am pricing the generic natural gas backup. whole house with switch gear s about $6k
I already have an 11.1kW Enphase (IQ7) system installed on my house. You talked about how much it would cost to install a complete turnkey solar PV array WITH Encharge battery back up. What I want to know is how much it would cost to install a minimal (but scalable) encharge system on my existing PV array.
These prices are hilarious, even at the supposed discount. You can DIY a 10 kw PV system with 30 kwh worth of battery and 20 kw worth of inverters for $20-25k. That is some impressively inflated install and profit overhead.
for an enphase system? Or what
@@enkrypt3d
Not for enphase batteries, they're expensive, but you can do a PV system using enphase micro inverters for a reasonable price. The batteries are the most expensive part of the system but there are much cheaper options available.
@@Son37Lumiere
Just built a 15.3kwh LiFePO4 bank for $3500. 13kw split phase UL certification inverter $ 2400. 9.5kw inverter generator for standby $2200. 8.3kw PV $3,600. It’s out there, you just have to hunt and know what you’re doing. Not that hard to do. Completely off grid
@@SkypowerwithKarl
That's really cheap, nice.
@@Son37Lumiere
Yup. Going to add another 15.3kw. Nice to have extra capacity and the total group will last much longer.
Why did you do the pricing like that? You did a whole system not just the battery which made it really hard to see the pricing difference of just the battery… especially for people who already have solar.
how well does the Enphase solution co mingle with a standby generator for whole home backup?
Enphase hasn't released the update yet for the standby generator, so we're not sure how well it'll work or with what. But it should be pretty good.
How long does the battery last?
Is $6720 still the encharge 10 cost direct from Enphase?
Your company are charging roughly $11,500 for each additional Encharge 10. I can purchase that same battery for literally $6720. Do you really bring an additional $4800 worth of added value to the job for every additional battery? If you’re already there to do one why is scaling up the job so cost prohibitive?
Enphase Store: store.enphase.com/storefront/en-us/
Enphase University: university.enphaseenergy.com/
Install a system: www4.enphase.com/en-us/certification-support-program-guidelines
Well… if there weren’t other components needed to install the battery and you’re not taking into account labor or reasonable profit, then I guess you’d make sense. The truth is that 11,500 for an encharge 10 OTD is a killer deal and the solar companies aren’t even really making that much money from them. Batteries are more being used as an area to prove you’re an expert and to help get the solar contract.
@@Superiorsolarconsulting I just got a quote using all Enphase converters and a single encharge 10 battery and the company wants 14.8k to install the single encharge 10 battery. Tesla wants 17k for two powerwall+ units if I buy their panels. The Tesla battery is at minimum 30% better specs of the encharge 10. I'd have 26kWh vs. 20. Installation cost of a battery system should be 2-3k. So I'd expect 2 encharge 10's for about 15-6k all in is a fair price still leaving profit for the installer.
@@peterlaporte4878 the Tesla Powerwall may have slightly more capacity but is far inferior in battery chemistry. What entails going into the battery install is a lot more than the just the battery which you’re not taking into account. I’m doing Encharge 10 installs for between 13-14k and there is not a lot of money being made.
I'm just a consumer who tries to do as much homework as I can. Both Encharge and Tesla have similar battery warranties. Actually Tesla is better with 10yr/ unlimited cycles so tell me what the battery composition with Encharge gets me for about $5k more per battery. I honestly think both over engineer so it's likely they go past 10 and maintain a decent capacity. You know more about the install, BUT as a consumer if I get one battery installed, the second battery should be much cheaper to install. At least they are with power walls where they stack them. I was just quoted $25k for two encharge 10 batteries. That's $12.5k per battery. It's $14k for one. If someone could explain why that is, when I could buy the battery for $7k on the encharge site. How much is labor and how much is other product needed to install the battery? $250 x 8 is $2000. Does it take 8 hours to install batteries? Does it take double the effort and double the product for two encharge batteries? Enlighten me please.
Do you work with the California PACE program? I have solar with Enphase microinverters and I'd like to add a battery backup system soon. My next project! Thanks.
So what is the new price for an Enphase 10 battery? I just want to buy the battery.
I heard the price dropped by $2,000 for the battery. Not sure what the price drop is for the Enpower switch.
Per the numbers in this video, it’s a $5000 difference, old to new given a simple 10k battery system. Now I know this includes other items that are also lower price, but still seems decent.
Hello I live in miami I ready have solar panels and Hd inverter I need quotes for tesla or en phase battery my system it’s 11.6 thanks
$9000
@@ABC-wz2db plus installation? With installation how much will be cost emphases or Tesla?
$41,910 for 1 Encharge 10?? We charge $14,500 installed, out the door for 1 Encharge 10 in CA.
That $41,910 is for a complete "turn-key" solar system including the solar panels. That's why you don't see the price double when you double the number of batteries.
Pricing provided is also worst case installation scenario for the battery backup portion. We’ve had several 2xE10 projects with 10kW solar systems for around $50k.
Dave: where r u located?
So triple what soloredge or tesla costs and less backup.
Do you know when the price drop on the Encharge 10 battery will take effect? Thanks.
Immediately
I've been quoted $14,500 installed by Gold Rush Energy for the Encharge 10.
Also, please verify if you can. They are claiming that when the power grid is down, the grid forming feature of the battery, when the Enphase microinverters are installed on the panels, allows the output of the battery to increase by up to 1 amp per panel (when the sun is shining).
Can I install one additional N10 by myself, or does it require professional installers?
It’s best to have a Enphase certified technician do it as there is more involved then just wiring in a battery.
@@dalerolph Does it also require the purchase of additional devices?
If you have an existing system in place, no. But if you don’t then yes, you need additional equipment. But the key thing is software, consumers can’t commission the systems only Enphase Ensemble Certified technicians can
@@dalerolph Thank you!
You're 3 times higher the price I received from 2 weeks ago on an Encharge 10 ($15,500). You won't sell very many at that price. And the original company that installed my 29 panels a year and a half ago quoted me a price of $17,500 turnkey for an Encharge 10, last week.
As of 1 week ago now a solar company in OKC OK will install an Encharge 10 financed through them for $15,300 OR it's $12,000 cash installed (you could finance it your own way and use the cash option). Don't forget the 26% tax credit!!!
With the current iQ7 microinverters customers do not have ability to produce power (directy from PV system) ; with one Enphase 10 battery does it contain the NEW iQ8 microinverters installed and allow the PV to function grid down sunny day while keeping the battery full saving battery energy for sundown/grid down time?
I believe many people, including myself are holding out/waiting for iQ8 PV microinverters release. But, if customer goes with older iQ7/cheaper inverters (when 8's releaseed) and plans to immediately add Enphase battery, would customer not get the same affect just by adding current iQ8 installed battery backup making the PV iQ8's a moot point?
You need both the battery AND the Enpower switch for the PV system to function if the grid goes down. In other words, with just a battery, you can't go off grid.
IQ8 in the battery can provide the frequency and voltage reference for the IQ7pv to function in a grid down environment. The beauty of IQ8PVapor wear is it’s supposed to not need a battery to provide off grid power when the sun is shining.
As I understand it, in an off grid system the number of operational IQ7s in your system is limited by the number of IQ8s in your battery. So if you have 20 IQ7s and 12IQ8s in your battery, the Ensemble system will shutdown/throttle 8 of your IQ7s when the grid goes down so that the IQ7s don't "overpower" the IQ8s.
@@Taedrin The ratio is no more than 150% IQ PV MICROINVERTERS to battery IQ8 INVERTERS. See page 10 of the following tech brief. store.enphase.com/storefront/en-us/pub/media/productattach/t/e/tech-brief-planning-ensemble-technology-system-en-us_compressed.pdf
Maybe I can slowly scale up. Annually. 1st yr. Some solar only. Then 1 battery. Next year some solar. Next 2nd battery. So on so on... so annually I can apply for green federal and state and city local rebates
that sounds smart
Good information. Thanks
Do a video on the new Meyer Burger solar panels
Question.. Where do you show the total KW system size attached to these batteries?
obviously, this isn't a battery-only price. The only way I can analyze your video data is the total equation. Regardless, the knowledge yall spread is second 2 none. Much appreciated.
Wow sticker shock ! My system has 56kwh's chevy volt batteries, 16000w of used panels and 18000w of inverters all for a $30k investment. I'm 5 years off grid with my system now old 1.5 y to pay off.
I just had a 36 panel 340 watt each install through infenergy solar! So it is a 12.3kw system! they talked me out of a battery back up system! I now want a enphase battery installed. Yes it will cost me more at first but, I will not have to pay duke energy for the electricty we consume in the evening while we are home using the most electrcity!
And the solaredge can have 2 lg Chem new 16 kw batteries per inverter and you can use up to 3 inverters but you knew that .
I don't believe SolarEdge has released the update just yet. They did just update the system to support the RESU 16H Prime battery a week or two ago.
@@dalerolph Redstone solar has been Installing the 16 for several months ths . I have 2. 16 kw per inverter so no sir not correct .
with the new pricing it is only double the cost of tesla .. I will keep watching for something competitive
Affordable... Ha! Thanks for the info. You have convinced me stay the hell away from Enphase. This explains why the guy trying to sell me on Enphase inverters keeps trying to tell me I don't need battery backup and doesn't even want to give me a quote for batteries. Just keeps saying I can add later.
If you were considering having solar installed, please think carefully before signing with Soleria Solar Or or Enphase. My system has been installed since September 9 months later and it still does not work. They've been out here and worked on it several times and it still doesn't work. Now I get some of the highest electric bills I've ever had and and a loan that I'm making payments... They don't ask for phone calls or return messages left.. I don't know if they're messing with me or just Incompetent......
There's some misinformation here what about generacs during a power outage that's a DC coupled the battery doesn't pick it up the solar system does if it's during the day.
Smokin the good stuff at $42k! I was just quoted last week $24,5k for two enphase 10k and associated equipment installed. 😂
More affordable? or less of a ripoff?
As of sept22, they are 7k.... not 15k
I need a new solar plan set made, I used solar wholesale and it turned into a nightmare. My plans are wrong due to the main panel and I need to pay to get new ones. I have enphase micro inverters on my 5kw diy system
Why do you need a new plan set? Didn't you already pass inspection?
Skip to 7:17 to see pricing
Well, price reduction is great but your "reduced price" is about 3 times the cost for a DIYselfer.
Are you competent designing a system that works reliably with the micros?
Way to expensive ... just use the grid as your battery or get the BYD LFP Batteries and by a hybrid inverter. Great system enphase but it is way out of reach due to supply and price.
The smarter individual would *maybe* let you install one battery like the 3.3 then purchase the remainder on the open market. You are over charging your customers for Encharge.
That’s a great idea but homeowners will need to go through an Enphase certification course to commission the system. Furthermore we do over estimate in our videos as a pre-caution as we’re designing for worst case over complex installations. That’s why we emphasize getting a quote.
40 grand for a single 10kwh battery? Is this guy sniffing glue? I can find retail prices for this battery for around 8900 bucks.
It was with a solar system, we said that.
Those prices will not work in Australia not never ever.
DIDN’T ENPHASE SCREW UP THEIR BMS AND DAMAGE EVERYONE’S BATTERIES AND NOW HAVE TO REPLACE/ RECALL BMS?
Not something I heard, I do know some installers improperly commissioned batteries causing them to fail and need to be replaced.
You forgot to add that only your installers have access to install soft ware . I want to install micro invert system I bought second hand enphase installer refused only interested in new install (more money )so regular installer could not install. same with battery bought second hand charged to check and install it has never worked properly enphase not interested . If you purchase this system you are at the mercy of enphase . Not surge protected as my battery burnt out after power surge. 2 yrs after install
No thanks, candle will do, and a bucket of ice cream cost less than ten dolls.
These MSRP numbers + solar installer tax + labor are crazy. You will never see stuff like this go mainstream when the low-tier option is more than half a year's pay for most people. I know the wholesale prices vs. MSRP hurts the credibility of solar installers. I bought new in-the-box IQ8M inverters for 33% less than MSRP from an installers surplus on eBay, and they still made money. It also does not help that even in this video, he is constantly trying to sell his installation service when most people are looking for just pricing information on the batteries. All solar information seems to just be out to be an advertisement.
BS, I had one roofer come with nothing similar to what they are advertising....scam.
Overall informative but LiFePO4 are not new...and have been the dominant lithium ion battery for 20+ years. Tesla and others used a Lithium ion cells with a more expensive higher voltage cathode for the last 5 years. High voltage more capacity but more expensive, shorter life and not as safe. Keep up the good work
With the current cost of my rural electricity I would still NEVER break even on the system in my lifetime and at the end of ten years you most likely have to buy what appears to be another $30-$50K worth of batteries. At this market point Solar will never be more than a convenience for the rich.
I was quoted $10K for the newest Enphase 10 purchase and installation.
In 10 years you'll probably see triple to 4x times capacity at that price point. meaning todays battery will cost far less. oil and gas prices keep going up.. the difference between solar and oil.. is oil takes a lot longer to be generated by the earth than the 8 minutes it takes for the sun light to travel to earth.. honestly the price is prohibitive for me.. but there are resources i'm looking into that help mitigate it. fingers cross your electricity stays low in your life time my guy,
@@totesmagoats1985 Once again the 8 minutes is not the issue!! That is the greatest gift it is the hours of labor, research, and cost of natural resources (just like for oil) it takes to make the panels and batteries and keep replacing them that is the complete puzzle. If sun light was 24/7 your argument would be valid but it is not so for a fair comparison power 24/7 has to be part of the puzzle. I envision a simple over night power storage like a tank that solar fills with water over night and then a highly efficient turbo generator (with friction free magnetic bearings) that uses the potential energy in the water to generate power overnight as the water is fed back into a tank at a lower elevation. Pump and tank size could be matched to demand over night. Greed with always increase the cost of ANY power source. Eliminating the resources you have to purchase to use power is the key to freedom from greed to get energy. Buying panels every 20 years and batteries every ten years is still keeping you tied to a resource flow that can explode in price once you have no other choices.
They're still ridiculously over priced at $41,000 for only 10 KwH.
For that much money, I can buy 3 new Powerwall 2 Pluses at the current price of $12,000 each, have them installed for $4,000 and still have $1,000 in my pocket. That would give me 39 KwH compared to just 10 KwH with the Enphase. It would cost over $76,000 to get the same amount of available energy from an Enphase system , EVEN AT THE REDUCED PRICE.
That $41K is for a complete "turn-key" solar system including the solar panels. That's why his price only went up by $11K when he added a second battery to the system and not another $41K.
@@remaininlight6935 No it doesn't. That's just for the batteries. There's no solar panels, or micro-inverters in that price. Just the batteries and equipment needed to connect to the panels, house and grid.
@@btrotta Yes, it does include the solar panels and the micro-inverters and everything else you need for a complete "turn-key" solar system as stated in the video. If just one battery costs $41K, then why does adding a second battery only cost $11K more? I suggest you re-watch the video.
It is for a turnkey solar system using 21 QCELLS 380 and IQ7+ micros. Pricing is a little more generally in our videos to account for more complex battery backup installations. Most customers have and will pay less than what’s shown.
Yup, Still ridiculous
What a f#ckin RIP!
Its guys like you with prices like this that gives solar a bad name and turns so many people off. You should be greedily ashamed.
I wish you guys were or had an affiliate in my area!! Great job!! Once again if you could refer me to someone in Jacksonville, NC it would be greatly appreciated!!
1) How do these compare to the Generac Powercell systems? 2) Why don't you tell people the truth, that they don't get those tax credits if their income comes from a non-taxable source.
Maybe that’s why they’re called tax-credits? 🧐
Generac system is 🗑️
@@guidedbygreen1480 Why do you say that? I was thinking about getting a Generac battery
Okay we can see there's a lot of bias here, let's talk about the stability of the corporation of enphase. Who has a history of almost going bankrupt but had to be bailed out. Why would you build a battery that's only 3 KW when the industry for homes is above 10.
He's a Tesla hater. Every video he does he has to say something bad about Tesla. I'm definitely not a Tesla fanboy, but his obsession with badmouthing them is really annoying.
If you live in a area that has mild weather and do not need a/c and plan on using your most electricity using equipment when the sun is shining, you would be fine with 3 kWh.
A Tesla Model 3 with a bigger battery pack costs less than Enphase 40kwh storage kit. Enphase are definitely ripping people off.
Remember this was for a turnkey solar system not just the batteries.
You talking too much. Very annoying.