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I do the same thing with the float, another thing i found is that if your weight ever snags the bottom and you lose it. the bobber will stay on your line because the bobber stops below it! tight lines good vid
Good setup Rod, does all round and if you hook a big tank you got the back bone to work with. For the float stops you can also add a bead to prevent the stoppers from getting damaged and sometimes slipping inside the float. Another thing you can try is adding a single stopper above the sliding weight, I don't know if you have noticed but sometimes when you fish deep areas, the weight will slide up the line and when it comes down the line giving a false "down" or "bonk" to the float.
Rod, in one of Kitty's float fishing videos I had asked how to prevent the bobber stop from getting stuck in the rod guides. Just wanted to thank you for your advise to use the string style bobber stops because it has worked beautifully. Thanks for the videos!
Hi Mustafa, these float stoppers are not ideal for getting onto the spool, particularly the baitcasters because they’re too big to go through the rollers etc. If you’re going to set your float that deep, it’s better to tie your own float stoppers by using thick braided line. I’ll try to do a tutorial on that soon. Thanks for watching the videos on both channels! 🙂
For Kings in the river, I will stick with my SAMR1265C its a 10'6" rated 10-40 lb line, power is heavy, action moderate. My 5th Loomis rod. $375.00. From sm brook trout to steelhead, halibut, saltwater salmon mooching & now floatfishing, crankbaits, superbaits. I love these rods. Pricey but worth it - they really are like surgical instruments. You really do feel the difference. My saltwater mooching rod - when mooching on the bottom with frozen anchovie on a 6 oz banana weight - you can feel the salmon tail slap the bait b4 they take it & run - no joke. With braid these rods are like eyes in the water.
Excellent choices Jim. I also have quite a few G.Loomis rods from the lighter 6-12lb setups for coho to the heavier ones you mentioned. They are at a higher price point, but what an enjoyment they bring when catching fish on those rods....
I can't wait to get in on the action... the pictures of all the fish being caught are making me a little anxious! Nice Rod that Technium. Looks up online $200, so not crazy price either.
@@FishingwithRod Exactly and now it is only one more day. Monday morning! I'll have to drag my butt out of bed though. This 17 shifts in a row is zapping my energy.
Yes, but you should try to move the stoppers up and down more slowly, or carefully one at a time. If you try to slide them too fast, they may "split" the braided line.
Hello Rod! Love watching your videos. I'm from the midwest stateside and have grown up on using braid for mainline when float fishing salmon. What exactly do you use for mainline and does that effect mending of the line compared to using braid?
Hi Mark, thanks! Funny that you brought up the main line. I recently started trying PowerPro (20lb test) as my main. So far I'd say I'm feeling pretty neutral about it, don't hate it but also haven't been that excited about it either. Up until now, I usually use 12 or 15lb Maxima Ultragreen as my main.
Can't wait to fish the Technium! I have been fishing the Shimano Compre and it's best rod on the Market I have used for under $100. Hope you get to use the new Shimano Mastiff Flourocarbon, I have a feeling Santa 🎅 will leave some in your mailbox.
Hello there Rod, I have a good friend of mine who is new to Canada and loves your videos. I too, love your videos very informative. Do you live in Chilliwack Rod?
Hi Rod, great tutorials! What size of swivel and snap swivel do you use for this setup. I’d like to use a snap swivel under the weight then tie the leader to a swivel for easy change out?
Hi Rod, know you prefer to use lighter floats when possible but have you ever tried throwing 2oz rated floats (with corresponding 2oz sinker) on the 106M Technium? Wasn’t sure how strict the lure rating is for this rod as the stated max is 1.5 oz.
I personally don't really enjoy fighting a big chinook salmon on a single action reel but that's just personal preference, mostly due to some finger joint issues.
Love the rig Rod! Wondering if you can weigh in on something: is there a rod length recommendation you can make for someone who doesn’t want to buy separate poles for drifting/floating/throwing spinners?
One option you do have for both is a 9' long baitcasting rod and a low profile baitcasting reel. It's long enough for float fishing in most situations, and short enough for casting and retrieving lures comfortably. I used to do this pretty often.
Yep, check out Shimano Clarus CSC90H2D, 9' long baitcasting rod, rated 10-20lb. That's more than enough for chinook salmon, and can be used for both float and casting lures. My only suggestion is to not get a huge baitcasting reel to go with it, otherwise it'd be too heavy to cast lures all day with.
Speedbird I use my spinning gear for casting and retrieving lures (spoons, spinners, jigs). This specific bait casting setup is used for float fishing in rivers for salmon and steelhead.
I just got a baitcasting reel and having trouble casting with a few bird nests that take a while to untangle and leave me frustrated. Wondering if you can do a video tutorial on casting with a baitcasting vs what I learnt with a spinning reel.
Hey Kailey! Yep I will add that to the to-do video list for sure. There definitely is a learning curve on casting the baitcasting reel. I think my first suggestion is to try casting with slightly heavier weight than you would normally use, which makes it easier. Tighten up the tension of the free spool a bit when casting with the heavier weight, then gradually lower the weight and loosen the tension, and learn how to use your thumb to control how fast that spool is turning when casting. They key is to stop the free spooling when your weight hit the ground/water to prevent the birdnest.
Hi Allen, those particular sliding weights are from Taiwan, brought over to Canada by my father whenever he visits the country. You can use any sliding weights really, they all do the job.
Nice video I'm thinking of buying that tranx 300 reel boss but just curious what gear ratio is ideal for salmon? That comes im the 5.8:1 and the high speed 7.6:1 just confused on which ratio to fish salmon with bobber just like in your video. Thank you.
20g is about 0.7oz. The weight given is just an approximate amount that you should use to balance the float. Every brand has slightly different weight estimation. I would try to test the float you want to use out with different weights until you find one that balances it nicely.
Hi Rod, Great video. Two follow up questions. What type of swivel do you use ie crane barrel? My second question what is the shortest rod you would use for the baitcaiting rod ie 9 foot?
I personally use a barrel swivel. No particular reason, just personal preference I think. I usually go with a size 10, or 12. For drift/float fishing, the shortest rods I use are 9'. They work just as well as the longer rods most of the time. The disadvantage comes in when you're fishing in a much wider run where you need to pick up more of your line between the rod and the float.
Very helpful info. What is the difference between the old and new technium? I asked couple people from the different tackle shop and no one could tell me. Also can you talk about centerpin setup in a future video please? Many video find on TH-cam are centerpin fishing in east, and the have slow current rivers and lakes, but we have very different environments. Thanks
Hi Mitchell, no this is not an ideal rod for casting spinners. You could, but you'd also end up with pretty sore arms after casting with it all day. It's too long and heavy. Watch this video for spinning setups: th-cam.com/video/KaAnYJSwqS8/w-d-xo.html
I adjust my float depth regularly to make sure it’s a foot or two off the bottom all the time, but not too far off so it’s still within the fish’s Strike zone.
@@ryderoakes7345 Yep Cabela's would have Shimano products. If you can't find them there, I'd go to another local retail store and they'd be happy to order one in for you.
Hey Rod. Great vid. I was looking into using that rod for sturgeon where I'm from. We usually never catch anything larger the 6'. Do you think that would work for me?
Thanks Nelson. This is not a rod for sturgeon, but Shimano does have two sturgeon rods in the Technium series. One is $200 (same price as this one) and it’d be pretty ideal for what you’re going for.
It’s not really a setup for casting lures if you got the rod in this video. Curado 300 is also quite big for casting lures. I was just using this setup today actually, for float fishing. A shorter baitcasting rod or a spinning rod would be better for lure casting.
@FishingwithRod oh believe me when I say sir it's the lightest combo I have lol any recommendations for a good affordable baitcasting rod for lure casting?
I don't really use a baitcasting setup for lure casting anymore, just stick to spinning setups these days for it. That said, my favourite baitcasting setup is a 9' long rod, rated 8-12lb, paired with a Curado 200.
Thank you, sir! Watching your videos helped me a lot especially the old ones on how to lure cast for pike minnows that was awesome. Tight lines and fish on good sir!
Hey Rod! This question isn't directly related to Salmon fishing, but sometimes in your videos I'll see you carrying a knife at your hip. I'm just wondering what brand it is. Thanks for always making such enjoyable content!!!
Hi Keith, that is a North Arm Knife. Here is the link of that particular model: northarmknives.com/product/lynx-hunting-knife-with-kydex-sheath/?c=e38de74562d1 Thanks for watching the videos! 😊
I always use center pin reels however never tried bait casting reels. How is it fighting a fish on those bait casting reel in regards to using it’s drag? Also fighting a chinook has to put more pressure on your arm using a bait casting reel doesn’t it? Egg loop knot is great for skein at least that is what I call it. Great info and maybe I will try that setup some day. Happy fishing.
Both reels are fun, but it really comes down to personal preference. I use both but I do find myself using the baitcasting reels more often. Mostly because it is a lot more efficient, and I have issues with my finger joints so I find the handles a lot easier on the baitcaster etc. One great thing about the centerpin is when river current is slow to absent, it allows you to drift more freely and naturally, something the baitcaster would never be able to achieve regardless how good the free spooling is.
With a baitcaster you can set the drag relatively loose and use your thumb on the spool as a drag. That way you have instant variability by applying more or less thumb pressure- for example if you need to try and stop a fish, or let it run. Baitcasters are by far the best reels for fighting fish, IMO.
Hi Rod, this techium rod is a med power. I can only locate the techium in med - heavy. Is that going to cause issue performance wise. Should I get that one , as no medium power are available. Thanks.
Hi James, the medium heavy model (TNC106MH2A) is rated 12-25lb, which is fine if you are only targeting chinook salmon with it but it'd be a pretty beefy rod for coho or even chum salmon. I already find the medium one (TNC106M2A) in this video pretty heavy and can handle just about everyhing I hook (here in Southwestern BC). Have you asked the stores to see if they can bring in the medium model?
I just got myself a baitcaster reel, the shimano curado K 201HG, and I have a 9'2" okuma gsp rod. I know it's on the smaller side but do you think it's fine to do float fishing in the Vedder? Previously I have been using my 9'6" spinning setup to do it, but I want to learn baitcasting now.
Have u fished smaller fast moving rivers such as the Cap. I lose at least a hook an hour on the rocks and submerged wood. It’s urggghh. Do u adjust this setup at all. Where are those nice stoppers found?
I don't fish fast moving sections of the river, there just isn't any point. Those aren't holding waters, fish are constantly moving through and you're basically attempting to hook one by accident. I would look for holding waters instead. Those float stoppers are available at all fishing tackle stores. Highwater Tackle in North Van, Pacific Angler in Vancouver should all have them.
Hi Rod Looking to buy a tranx 300 I am right handed and am wondering if I should buy a right or left reel? Also where do you recommend me buying the reel from? Thanks
If you cast with your left hand, then you should get a right handed reel. If you cast with your right hand, then go with a left handed reel. :) If you're in the Fraser Valley, Fred's Custom Tackle has the largest selection of Shimano gear.
Rod, It was from your other video I had to zoom in on the sliding weight to go look for it at Cabela’s, Bass Pro and Canadian Tire; couldn’t find it. At Berry’s Bait, staff said they were out of stock and the weight typically very popular in the states. So was wondering If I was to look for it on Amazon, what’s the name of that type of weight and what size of that weight I should buy?
The amount of weight you use depends on the size of the float. The bigger the float is, the more weight you add. You want to add enough so only the top coloured part of the floats sits above the water surface. You can use whatever style of weights you want actually, as long as they’re streamlined and don’t affect the drift.
@@FishingwithRod does it matter on using the heaviest weight the float can support just to get the bait underwater as fast as possible so that it could drift?
+Fishing with Rod thanks for the video Rod! What size bead should I be looking for that you put on after the weight? 4mm/6mm? Want to order online. Thanks.
I have questions been trying to fish in Vedder river for quiet a while but never had any luck. I would like your guidance towards that cause I’m getting frustrated, thank you.
hi, I arrived in Vancouver 6 weeks ago, I live on the UBC campus, what is the closest spot to me where I can do some offshore salmon fishing? Also, you didn't discuss the bait, will jigging work for salmon btw?
Welcome! The closest place for you to go to is the Capilano River. You should head down to Pacific Angler, a fishing store in Vancouver where they’d be able to help you out more.
@@FishingwithRod thanks a lot for the reply, I wonder if you can be more specific as to the location, I can go there by bus, I used to fish for walleye in Montreal that's why I asked about jigging! if I need other baits / tackles I can check out this store! do you fish with live bait or or artificial lures?
Actually it's possible to catch them at towers beach right on campus. Go at high tide when the salmon follow the surf smelts in to shore. Cast way out with buzz bombs and a single barbless hook.
Thanks for the video, I want to buy this rod, but I found two model number in different store websites, TNC-106M2 and TNC-106M2A, are they the same? Or different model year? Thank you so much for your help
@@FishingwithRod thanks for the information, I will just go and check. by the way, is there any bass fishing spot in or near lower mainland? If yes, could you please make a video on that? Love your channel
Quite a few locations for bass. Sturgeon slough, Nicomen Slough, Sumas River, Mill Lake, Pitt Lake area marsh, all have largemouth bass in them, as well as smallmouth bass in Cultus Lake now.
I still see pictures of people flaunting a bonked salmon with what seems to be an adipose fin. Am I missing something in the regs? The fish clearly have an extra small fin but people are keeping them?
It depends on the species. Here in BC, only 10% of hachery chinook salmon are adipose clipped so the regulations permit anglers to retain chinook salmon with or without an adipose fin.
Do you have any tips for casting with longer rods? I've never used a rod longer than 7' and when I tried casting my 10'6 I was't ready for it and I found it too bulky to properly cast it properly. Is there a different technique to casting longer fishing rods? Thanks
@@danielashjazadeh6165 Ahh ok Thanks!! Will I still be able to cast 20-40 meters swinging my rod? I am also new to baitcasting and have yet to learn how to cast with it too haha. I didnt birdsnest but I also couldnt cast further than 20 meters cause of my settings
@@brennanyu ya, with practice you will be able to cast very far, for instance I have ran out of line before (140ft). Just get your reel settings dialed in, (spool tension should be set to where the spool doesnt move horizontally), and use adequate amounts of weight.
Ok thanks, yeah thats what i've been doing, juist need more practice. Also, should I set the tension so there is absolutely no movement in the spool? or is a little movement with no audible spool movement ok?
@@brennanyu it's more personal preference, but for a beginner, I would set the spool till there is no movement, until you learn how to feather the spool, and making it tighter will majorly cutback on birdsnests.
Hey Rod! I’m looking to find a float fishing setup that I can use for all types of BC salmon. I know it’ll probs be a heavier set up as chum and chinook can grow quite big. What are your thoughts on a 10’6 Shimano Convergence medium-heavy 12-25lbs with a baitcasting reel. What are your thoughts on this rod paired with something like a kastking royal legend or abu Garcia black max baitcasting reel. Would something like this be ohkay for targeting several types of salmon ranging from coho to chinook? I know you like to use smaller and lighter rods for your coho fishing but I don’t have the funds right now to buy another rod strictly for coho. What are your thoughts on this rod and reel setup for general salmon float fishing and what kind of mainline/leader would you run. Thanks again for your time! I appreciate all you do for us new fishermen! Cheers- Paul
It’s cause I was gifted that brand new convergence (don’t want it to go to waste) and I was wondering if I could roll with that rod for the meantime to float fish the various species of salmon, then buy a lighter rod like the clarus down the road haha
ah ok. the 12-25lb test is fine for whatever drifting you wish to do, even for coho salmon, but you'll find it quite heavy/tiring to use over time compared to lets say a rod that's rated 8-12, 8-17 or 10-20lb. The 10-20lb like this one in the video is adequate enough to handle most chinook salmon, and still light enough for coho salmon.
@@FishingwithRod Yes, 20lb seaguar invizx. Line sensitivity to me isn’t so important when floating. Chucking spoons and such, braid with a bumper. When I was float fishing with braid I rarely got bites. Swapped to fluoro and it was non-stop this year.
Awesome video! Can't wait to get out there this October! I have a few questions about your setup 1) what do you think of the cigar floats where the line wraps around the float? 2) how do you adjust the float depth when you have that many float stoppers on? 3) I sometimes use a buzz bomb bumper instead of a bead to protect the knot from the weight. I thought the bead would transfer the impact whereas the bumper absorbs the shock. What do you think of that?
Thanks Adam! I personally don’t like to wrap line around the float because eventually the line will cut into the foam. It’s easy to adjust the depth just by moving those float stoppers one at a time (it’s actually a lot less time consuming than it sounds). The rubber bumpers would totally work too! Good idea. With the beads, they do shatter at times from impact after awhile.
The hook and line are what’s connecting you and the fish, so I personally like to invest and get what I think are the best for me to minimize my chances of losing them.
Great vedio ! But ,You didn’t show us the total connection up to the swivel after you had tied the hook ! Wish you had shown us the complete set up …. Newbie here !!
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I saw on another comment you mentioned a shimano clarus would be good all around budget salmon rod. I see there are several versions of that rod. Which would you recommend? I was thinking CSS96M2D because I have a spinning reel. Thanks!
Yep, there is one Clarus baitcasting model with the exact same specs as the rod being shown in this video - 10'6", 10 - 20lb. I don't have the model # handy but if you go into the store with that information, they should be able to find it quite easily.
@@DR-nu3jo You certainly can float fish with a 9'6" spinning rod. Does it do a good job? No. There really isn't a good spinning substitute for baitcasting or centerpin setups if you want to float fish. You'd be dealing with constantly trying to leave your bail open and let enough line out so you can create a smooth drift, you'd end up with too much loose line and the hooksets would not be great. Give it a try. If it doesn't work, then you'd have a good rod for spoons and spinners.
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I do the same thing with the float, another thing i found is that if your weight ever snags the bottom and you lose it. the bobber will stay on your line because the bobber stops below it! tight lines good vid
Yep! Save the most expensive part. 😊
Good setup Rod, does all round and if you hook a big tank you got the back bone to work with.
For the float stops you can also add a bead to prevent the stoppers from getting damaged and sometimes slipping inside the float.
Another thing you can try is adding a single stopper above the sliding weight, I don't know if you have noticed but sometimes when you fish deep areas, the weight will slide up the line and when it comes down the line giving a false "down" or "bonk" to the float.
Yep, great tips! Thanks Pete!
Hope to see you around the river Rod.
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@@FishingwithRod cuz if i see you there i know im in the right spot! Haha 😄
Glenn Art Well, that theory wouldn’t have paid off today 🤣
I bought a Shimano Clarus casting rod for Salmon earlier this year and have enjoyed fishing it. Great rod for the money.
Awesome. All the models in the Clarus series are fantastic. I have quite a few of them. 👍
I just moved here to BC, Canada! Loving it here! I am trying to get into this. Hope to see you on the waters some time.
Great! Welcome! You'll have a great time this fall once salmon start showing up in our rivers.
@@FishingwithRod I was watching your videos on set ups. Do you think for a starter like me would go with a bait caster setup rather than centerpin?
Thank you for the wonderful narrative and explaining the setup.
Glad you enjoyed it.
I’m so happy to see another educational video from you Rod. I love all your videos but but these one I can learn and that’s priceless! :D
Thanks Felipe!
Rod, in one of Kitty's float fishing videos I had asked how to prevent the bobber stop from getting stuck in the rod guides. Just wanted to thank you for your advise to use the string style bobber stops because it has worked beautifully. Thanks for the videos!
Hi Mustafa, these float stoppers are not ideal for getting onto the spool, particularly the baitcasters because they’re too big to go through the rollers etc. If you’re going to set your float that deep, it’s better to tie your own float stoppers by using thick braided line. I’ll try to do a tutorial on that soon. Thanks for watching the videos on both channels! 🙂
I toss a bead between the bobber stop and the float. Works well.
Those rods are bombproof. We guided with them up north and have dredged up 80+lb halibut on them when we got them while looking for salmon.
I'm sold lol
Dan B it was the 15-30 mooching rods. I meant that the line of Techniums are bombproof. Haven’t dredged up too many halis in the rivers on mine
Hey Rod awesome video ! With all your tips and advice I got into a jack yesterday on the shimano tranx 300 and the shimano clarus rod . Thanks man!
You went for the Tranx! Awesome.. 🙂 Many more fish to come 👍
Thanks again Rod! Always great to watch your videos.
Thank you!
For Kings in the river, I will stick with my SAMR1265C its a 10'6" rated 10-40 lb line, power is heavy, action moderate. My 5th Loomis rod. $375.00. From sm brook trout to steelhead, halibut, saltwater salmon mooching & now floatfishing, crankbaits, superbaits. I love these rods. Pricey but worth it - they really are like surgical instruments. You really do feel the difference. My saltwater mooching rod - when mooching on the bottom with frozen anchovie on a 6 oz banana weight - you can feel the salmon tail slap the bait b4 they take it & run - no joke. With braid these rods are like eyes in the water.
Excellent choices Jim. I also have quite a few G.Loomis rods from the lighter 6-12lb setups for coho to the heavier ones you mentioned. They are at a higher price point, but what an enjoyment they bring when catching fish on those rods....
SAMR is a great series but make sure you try the new Technium and Compre I think you will find the actions better and the blanks are even lighter
I love all the knowledge in your videos it really helps out
Than you Chris!
Fishing with Rod You’re welcome bro keep up the hard work
Sounds like that reel makes a clicking sound. Awesome fishing.
This reel doesn't have a clicker actually, none of the Shimano low profile baitcasters do. It was probably the button for free spooling.
Thanks. ......and good luck fishing with the new rod.....
Thanks!
Love your channel... wishing you continued success.
Thank you for always supporting the videos. 😊
I can't wait to get in on the action... the pictures of all the fish being caught are making me a little anxious! Nice Rod that Technium. Looks up online $200, so not crazy price either.
One more week!
Dan B No that reply was directed at the fishing doc, because he has next week off to go fishing.
@@FishingwithRod Exactly and now it is only one more day. Monday morning! I'll have to drag my butt out of bed though. This 17 shifts in a row is zapping my energy.
Great informational video Rod. Keep up the great work!
Thanks Corey! 😊
Great stuff as always! Love.
Thank you Jason!
Oh man you posted it so early on a Sunday monring. I'll have to watch after work and then rig up for a chinook!
I would fish with you anytime man. Nice video. Tight lines.
Thanks for watching. 🙂
I like that set up 👍
always like to see the gear thanks for sharing
Thanks Victor!
Nice video Rod 👍 🎣
Thanks Andy!
Looks great! Good luck out there on the gong show! 😂
No worries, it's never a problem to get away from the gong show. :)
Do those float stoppers work ok with braid too?
Yes, but you should try to move the stoppers up and down more slowly, or carefully one at a time. If you try to slide them too fast, they may "split" the braided line.
@@FishingwithRod Thanks for that. I will try that this week! Love the set up vids, so helpful:)
The beed is to help save the knot from damage from the weight rubbing on and banging in to it
Yep!
Hello Rod! Love watching your videos. I'm from the midwest stateside and have grown up on using braid for mainline when float fishing salmon. What exactly do you use for mainline and does that effect mending of the line compared to using braid?
Hi Mark, thanks! Funny that you brought up the main line. I recently started trying PowerPro (20lb test) as my main. So far I'd say I'm feeling pretty neutral about it, don't hate it but also haven't been that excited about it either. Up until now, I usually use 12 or 15lb Maxima Ultragreen as my main.
Can't wait to fish the Technium! I have been fishing the Shimano Compre and it's best rod on the Market I have used for under $100. Hope you get to use the new Shimano Mastiff Flourocarbon, I have a feeling Santa 🎅 will leave some in your mailbox.
Great video man
Thanks Seth!
Hello there Rod, I have a good friend of mine who is new to Canada and loves your videos. I too, love your videos very informative. Do you live in Chilliwack Rod?
Thanks, good to hear you enjoy them. 🙂
Hi Rod, great tutorials! What size of swivel and snap swivel do you use for this setup. I’d like to use a snap swivel under the weight then tie the leader to a swivel for easy change out?
Hi Rod, know you prefer to use lighter floats when possible but have you ever tried throwing 2oz rated floats (with corresponding 2oz sinker) on the 106M Technium? Wasn’t sure how strict the lure rating is for this rod as the stated max is 1.5 oz.
where do you get those torpedoe shaped lead weights ?
If you are in Vancouver, First Light Tackle in Burnaby sells them.
Great video... Can you please let me know where you bought the sliding weight at? Thank you in advance.
Those are great sliding weights, I actually had them brought over from Asia.
Nice rod
Rod have you found in most cases a good weight size below the float Thanks
Your weight size depends on the size of the float you're using. Not totally sure if that's what you're asking?
Got it Thanks
@@FishingwithRod
How do you like a centerpin for chinook?
I personally don't really enjoy fighting a big chinook salmon on a single action reel but that's just personal preference, mostly due to some finger joint issues.
Love the rig Rod! Wondering if you can weigh in on something: is there a rod length recommendation you can make for someone who doesn’t want to buy separate poles for drifting/floating/throwing spinners?
One option you do have for both is a 9' long baitcasting rod and a low profile baitcasting reel. It's long enough for float fishing in most situations, and short enough for casting and retrieving lures comfortably. I used to do this pretty often.
@@FishingwithRod any rod recommendations strong enough to handle chinook?
Yep, check out Shimano Clarus CSC90H2D, 9' long baitcasting rod, rated 10-20lb. That's more than enough for chinook salmon, and can be used for both float and casting lures. My only suggestion is to not get a huge baitcasting reel to go with it, otherwise it'd be too heavy to cast lures all day with.
I noticed in earlier videos you were using spinning gear. What circumstances do you use spinning gear vs baitcasting?
Speedbird I use my spinning gear for casting and retrieving lures (spoons, spinners, jigs). This specific bait casting setup is used for float fishing in rivers for salmon and steelhead.
Hay do you have to have braid to fish them
No, you can use mono.
Can you use this setup for casting spoons and plugs
No this is a float fishing setup. I have other tutorials on what to use for spoons etc. :)
@@FishingwithRod thanks! Will check them out. I just got this exact rod and reel. Great content!
Can you do one of these for trout fishing in B.C.?
I sure can, there is also one on my co-host Kitty’s channel already:
th-cam.com/video/YrDo9M6lS0E/w-d-xo.html
@@FishingwithRod thanks a bunch :)
I just got a baitcasting reel and having trouble casting with a few bird nests that take a while to untangle and leave me frustrated. Wondering if you can do a video tutorial on casting with a baitcasting vs what I learnt with a spinning reel.
Hey Kailey! Yep I will add that to the to-do video list for sure. There definitely is a learning curve on casting the baitcasting reel. I think my first suggestion is to try casting with slightly heavier weight than you would normally use, which makes it easier. Tighten up the tension of the free spool a bit when casting with the heavier weight, then gradually lower the weight and loosen the tension, and learn how to use your thumb to control how fast that spool is turning when casting. They key is to stop the free spooling when your weight hit the ground/water to prevent the birdnest.
Hello! I am new at your channel. How heavy weights should be for this setup?
Depends on the size of your float.
Is the mainline mono? What lb test ? Thx
Yes. I use 15lb test mono for it.
@@FishingwithRod thx
what size swivel are you using, Rod? #10?
Yeah.
Hi Rod,
Where do you buy those nice sliding weight? 🙂
Nice set up... Good luck and keep safe!
Hi Allen, those particular sliding weights are from Taiwan, brought over to Canada by my father whenever he visits the country. You can use any sliding weights really, they all do the job.
@@FishingwithRod Any suggestion on size for the sliding weight. Im looking at the Vedder in a few days if that helps
Nice video I'm thinking of buying that tranx 300 reel boss but just curious what gear ratio is ideal for salmon? That comes im the 5.8:1 and the high speed 7.6:1 just confused on which ratio to fish salmon with bobber just like in your video. Thank you.
Great video! Would 20 gram float be equivalent to like a 1 ounce float?
20g is about 0.7oz. The weight given is just an approximate amount that you should use to balance the float. Every brand has slightly different weight estimation. I would try to test the float you want to use out with different weights until you find one that balances it nicely.
Fishing with Rod awesome, thanks!! Your vids helped me land my first Chinook this year!
Hi Rod,
Great video. Two follow up questions. What type of swivel do you use ie crane barrel? My second question what is the shortest rod you would use for the baitcaiting rod ie 9 foot?
I personally use a barrel swivel. No particular reason, just personal preference I think. I usually go with a size 10, or 12.
For drift/float fishing, the shortest rods I use are 9'. They work just as well as the longer rods most of the time. The disadvantage comes in when you're fishing in a much wider run where you need to pick up more of your line between the rod and the float.
Very helpful info. What is the difference between the old and new technium? I asked couple people from the different tackle shop and no one could tell me. Also can you talk about centerpin setup in a future video please? Many video find on TH-cam are centerpin fishing in east, and the have slow current rivers and lakes, but we have very different environments. Thanks
Hi Sherman, the changes are a new guide train that will allow for longer casts. A new graphite glass wrapped construction making it even stronger.
Does this rod works well for casting spinners as well?
Hi Mitchell, no this is not an ideal rod for casting spinners. You could, but you'd also end up with pretty sore arms after casting with it all day. It's too long and heavy. Watch this video for spinning setups:
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Awesome, thank you
can i use spoons or spinners with a 10' 6" rod?
You can, but it’s probably not efficient.
Rod ,can you please do a video on what setup you would use , and lures or bait,for a mouth of a river, for salmon,please please 🤞
I will Nicholas. 😊
@@FishingwithRod awesome man you’re the best
do you adjust the float up and down at all or do you keep it next to the weight?
I adjust my float depth regularly to make sure it’s a foot or two off the bottom all the time, but not too far off so it’s still within the fish’s Strike zone.
@@FishingwithRod wow, i didn't expect a reply straight from you. Thank you!
Only top class service for my audience here. 😉
If I use baitcasting rod, should I use 3 or 4 power rod?
You should use rods rated appropriate for the species and size that you are targeting.
Where can I get my hands on those on the island. And is the reel also optional to be left handed?
Any Shimano dealers should be able to order them in if they don't have them at the store. And yes you can get the left handed model for these as well.
@@FishingwithRod thanks. Where I get most of my stuff is at the Cabela’s so hopefully I will be able to get some from there
@@ryderoakes7345 Yep Cabela's would have Shimano products. If you can't find them there, I'd go to another local retail store and they'd be happy to order one in for you.
what's the best set up for fishing at Capilano River regional park?
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Sir, may I ask you , what’s the size of the weight?
The amount of weight used depends on the size of the float. 20g floats require 20g of weight to balance.
Hey Rod. Great vid. I was looking into using that rod for sturgeon where I'm from. We usually never catch anything larger the 6'. Do you think that would work for me?
Thanks Nelson. This is not a rod for sturgeon, but Shimano does have two sturgeon rods in the Technium series. One is $200 (same price as this one) and it’d be pretty ideal for what you’re going for.
I just got a technium rod with a curado k 300. It's my first shimano for rod and reel for I am a penn guy. I find it very hard to cast lures with it
It’s not really a setup for casting lures if you got the rod in this video. Curado 300 is also quite big for casting lures. I was just using this setup today actually, for float fishing. A shorter baitcasting rod or a spinning rod would be better for lure casting.
@FishingwithRod oh believe me when I say sir it's the lightest combo I have lol any recommendations for a good affordable baitcasting rod for lure casting?
I don't really use a baitcasting setup for lure casting anymore, just stick to spinning setups these days for it. That said, my favourite baitcasting setup is a 9' long rod, rated 8-12lb, paired with a Curado 200.
Thank you, sir! Watching your videos helped me a lot especially the old ones on how to lure cast for pike minnows that was awesome.
Tight lines and fish on good sir!
Where you fishing?
Hey Rod! This question isn't directly related to Salmon fishing, but sometimes in your videos I'll see you carrying a knife at your hip. I'm just wondering what brand it is. Thanks for always making such enjoyable content!!!
Hi Keith, that is a North Arm Knife. Here is the link of that particular model:
northarmknives.com/product/lynx-hunting-knife-with-kydex-sheath/?c=e38de74562d1
Thanks for watching the videos! 😊
I always use center pin reels however never tried bait casting reels. How is it fighting a fish on those bait casting reel in regards to using it’s drag? Also fighting a chinook has to put more pressure on your arm using a bait casting reel doesn’t it? Egg loop knot is great for skein at least that is what I call it. Great info and maybe I will try that setup some day. Happy fishing.
Both reels are fun, but it really comes down to personal preference. I use both but I do find myself using the baitcasting reels more often. Mostly because it is a lot more efficient, and I have issues with my finger joints so I find the handles a lot easier on the baitcaster etc. One great thing about the centerpin is when river current is slow to absent, it allows you to drift more freely and naturally, something the baitcaster would never be able to achieve regardless how good the free spooling is.
@@FishingwithRod Thanks for the reply Rod. Thanks for what you do.
With a baitcaster you can set the drag relatively loose and use your thumb on the spool as a drag. That way you have instant variability by applying more or less thumb pressure- for example if you need to try and stop a fish, or let it run. Baitcasters are by far the best reels for fighting fish, IMO.
Hi Rod, I found that rod online. Wondering what that reel would retail for ? So I have a ballpark cost. Thanks I'm in bc.
Hi James, I think the Tranx 300 is around $400.
Hi Rod, this techium rod is a med power. I can only locate the techium in med - heavy. Is that going to cause issue performance wise. Should I get that one , as no medium power are available. Thanks.
Hi James, the medium heavy model (TNC106MH2A) is rated 12-25lb, which is fine if you are only targeting chinook salmon with it but it'd be a pretty beefy rod for coho or even chum salmon. I already find the medium one (TNC106M2A) in this video pretty heavy and can handle just about everyhing I hook (here in Southwestern BC). Have you asked the stores to see if they can bring in the medium model?
Hi Rod, am having trouble finding a Tranx 300 reel. Perhaps they are discontinued, What do you recommend instead? Thanks
I'm pretty sure they are not discontinued. Have you tried to get the store to order one for you?
I just got myself a baitcaster reel, the shimano curado K 201HG, and I have a 9'2" okuma gsp rod. I know it's on the smaller side but do you think it's fine to do float fishing in the Vedder? Previously I have been using my 9'6" spinning setup to do it, but I want to learn baitcasting now.
Hi Nick, 9' rods should be ok. I've had 9' centerpin rods in the past and actually enjoyed it a lot.
I recently started salmon fishing and i live in chilliwack, where should i go for coho
www.fishingwithrod.com/articles/region_two/chilliwack_river.html
Have u fished smaller fast moving rivers such as the Cap. I lose at least a hook an hour on the rocks and submerged wood. It’s urggghh. Do u adjust this setup at all. Where are those nice stoppers found?
I don't fish fast moving sections of the river, there just isn't any point. Those aren't holding waters, fish are constantly moving through and you're basically attempting to hook one by accident. I would look for holding waters instead. Those float stoppers are available at all fishing tackle stores. Highwater Tackle in North Van, Pacific Angler in Vancouver should all have them.
Hi Rod
Looking to buy a tranx 300
I am right handed and am wondering if I should buy a right or left reel?
Also where do you recommend me buying the reel from?
Thanks
If you cast with your left hand, then you should get a right handed reel. If you cast with your right hand, then go with a left handed reel. :) If you're in the Fraser Valley, Fred's Custom Tackle has the largest selection of Shimano gear.
What could I use instead of bobber stops, would a bead with an elastic band work?
The bobber stops are definitely preferred.
@@FishingwithRod Alright, thanks Rod
mainline is braid or mono???
Mono
What size mainline do you use?
15lb for this particular setup.
@@FishingwithRod Thank you. Most tackle stores try to convince me to go with 20lb main line but I am sticking with 15lb.
20 is fine too, especially if you are targeting Chinook salmon specifically. For my lighter coho setup, my main line is 12lb test.
how heavy is the weight you are using
The size of weight depends on how big your float is.
Rod, It was from your other video I had to zoom in on the sliding weight to go look for it at Cabela’s, Bass Pro and Canadian Tire; couldn’t find it. At Berry’s Bait, staff said they were out of stock and the weight typically very popular in the states. So was wondering If I was to look for it on Amazon, what’s the name of that type of weight and what size of that weight I should buy?
The amount of weight you use depends on the size of the float. The bigger the float is, the more weight you add. You want to add enough so only the top coloured part of the floats sits above the water surface. You can use whatever style of weights you want actually, as long as they’re streamlined and don’t affect the drift.
@@FishingwithRod does it matter on using the heaviest weight the float can support just to get the bait underwater as fast as possible so that it could drift?
+Fishing with Rod thanks for the video Rod! What size bead should I be looking for that you put on after the weight? 4mm/6mm? Want to order online. Thanks.
Depending on what salmon species are spawning since the egg sizes are all different
What brand of float is that Rod?
Top Shelf
I have questions been trying to fish in Vedder river for quiet a while but never had any luck. I would like your guidance towards that cause I’m getting frustrated, thank you.
Have you taken a look at the other Vedder River videos and tutorials on our channel?
Been watching most of your video
Ah.. keep trying. 👍
Thank you
Do you think I'll still get bites if I use my 30lb braided line as the leader? I'm fishing in the San Francisco Bay, the water isn't very clear...
I think the question is, what are you targeting that needs you to use 30lb test leader?
@@FishingwithRod Going for chinook salmon. Just wanted to see if I could save some money and avoid buying leader as I already have 30lb test line.
well, you could try it, but if your rod rating is much lower than 30lb, then it may become an issue.
How much is the weight you put in?
That depends on the size of your float. The float in this video says 20g, so you are using roughly around 20g of weight to balance it.
hi, I arrived in Vancouver 6 weeks ago, I live on the UBC campus, what is the closest spot to me where I can do some offshore salmon fishing? Also, you didn't discuss the bait, will jigging work for salmon btw?
Welcome! The closest place for you to go to is the Capilano River. You should head down to Pacific Angler, a fishing store in Vancouver where they’d be able to help you out more.
@@FishingwithRod thanks a lot for the reply, I wonder if you can be more specific as to the location, I can go there by bus, I used to fish for walleye in Montreal that's why I asked about jigging! if I need other baits / tackles I can check out this store! do you fish with live bait or or artificial lures?
Actually it's possible to catch them at towers beach right on campus. Go at high tide when the salmon follow the surf smelts in to shore. Cast way out with buzz bombs and a single barbless hook.
Thanks for the video, I want to buy this rod, but I found two model number in different store websites, TNC-106M2 and TNC-106M2A, are they the same? Or different model year? Thank you so much for your help
Hi Kerry, as far as I know, there isn't TNC-106M2. Are you sure that it wasn't TNC-106M2A and TNC-106MH2A?
@@FishingwithRod thanks for the information, I will just go and check. by the way, is there any bass fishing spot in or near lower mainland? If yes, could you please make a video on that? Love your channel
Quite a few locations for bass. Sturgeon slough, Nicomen Slough, Sumas River, Mill Lake, Pitt Lake area marsh, all have largemouth bass in them, as well as smallmouth bass in Cultus Lake now.
Morning rod what weight is the egg weight?
The size of the weight depends on the size of the float. My floats are rated 20 to 25g, so that's how much weight I am usually using.
Thanks rod ur one my faves Forsure
Rob so if you have a 20g float with a 20g weight and u put a big chunk of skeen
I won’t have no issues of it being too heavy?
The float is not 20g, it's rated for 20g of weight to balance it.
Lol rod I know!
I still see pictures of people flaunting a bonked salmon with what seems to be an adipose fin. Am I missing something in the regs? The fish clearly have an extra small fin but people are keeping them?
It depends on the species. Here in BC, only 10% of hachery chinook salmon are adipose clipped so the regulations permit anglers to retain chinook salmon with or without an adipose fin.
@@FishingwithRod ah that makes sense I believe they are Chinook.
So you're doing a giveaway of the shimano rod to the 55th commentor? Sweet!
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Do you have any tips for casting with longer rods? I've never used a rod longer than 7' and when I tried casting my 10'6 I was't ready for it and I found it too bulky to properly cast it properly. Is there a different technique to casting longer fishing rods? Thanks
Personally, I always think of casting with a big rod as a swing, rather than a fast push or flick
@@danielashjazadeh6165 Ahh ok Thanks!! Will I still be able to cast 20-40 meters swinging my rod? I am also new to baitcasting and have yet to learn how to cast with it too haha. I didnt birdsnest but I also couldnt cast further than 20 meters cause of my settings
@@brennanyu ya, with practice you will be able to cast very far, for instance I have ran out of line before (140ft). Just get your reel settings dialed in, (spool tension should be set to where the spool doesnt move horizontally), and use adequate amounts of weight.
Ok thanks, yeah thats what i've been doing, juist need more practice. Also, should I set the tension so there is absolutely no movement in the spool? or is a little movement with no audible spool movement ok?
@@brennanyu it's more personal preference, but for a beginner, I would set the spool till there is no movement, until you learn how to feather the spool, and making it tighter will majorly cutback on birdsnests.
Hey Rod! I’m looking to find a float fishing setup that I can use for all types of BC salmon. I know it’ll probs be a heavier set up as chum and chinook can grow quite big. What are your thoughts on a 10’6 Shimano Convergence medium-heavy 12-25lbs with a baitcasting reel. What are your thoughts on this rod paired with something like a kastking royal legend or abu Garcia black max baitcasting reel. Would something like this be ohkay for targeting several types of salmon ranging from coho to chinook? I know you like to use smaller and lighter rods for your coho fishing but I don’t have the funds right now to buy another rod strictly for coho. What are your thoughts on this rod and reel setup for general salmon float fishing and what kind of mainline/leader would you run. Thanks again for your time! I appreciate all you do for us new fishermen! Cheers- Paul
Why don't you just go with the setup I've shown in this video? If the Technium is over your budget, you can go with a Clarus.
It’s cause I was gifted that brand new convergence (don’t want it to go to waste) and I was wondering if I could roll with that rod for the meantime to float fish the various species of salmon, then buy a lighter rod like the clarus down the road haha
ah ok. the 12-25lb test is fine for whatever drifting you wish to do, even for coho salmon, but you'll find it quite heavy/tiring to use over time compared to lets say a rod that's rated 8-12, 8-17 or 10-20lb. The 10-20lb like this one in the video is adequate enough to handle most chinook salmon, and still light enough for coho salmon.
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How much was the reel and rod?
Likely free since he is sponsored by Shimano.
@@Ifish24-7 good point
The rod retails $200 + tax (Canadian) and the reel is about $350~400 + tax.
What is the mainline? Fluoro? 15lb, 20lb?
The main line is 15lb test mono, but I'm considering switching to 20lb test PowerPro braided.
@@FishingwithRod don’t do it! I had waaay more fish this year on 20lb fluoro then 20lb braid.
I just found out 3 days ago who makes powerpro. Hehe.
You run fluoro for your main?
@@FishingwithRod Yes, 20lb seaguar invizx. Line sensitivity to me isn’t so important when floating. Chucking spoons and such, braid with a bumper.
When I was float fishing with braid I rarely got bites. Swapped to fluoro and it was non-stop this year.
Awesome video! Can't wait to get out there this October! I have a few questions about your setup
1) what do you think of the cigar floats where the line wraps around the float?
2) how do you adjust the float depth when you have that many float stoppers on?
3) I sometimes use a buzz bomb bumper instead of a bead to protect the knot from the weight. I thought the bead would transfer the impact whereas the bumper absorbs the shock. What do you think of that?
Thanks Adam! I personally don’t like to wrap line around the float because eventually the line will cut into the foam. It’s easy to adjust the depth just by moving those float stoppers one at a time (it’s actually a lot less time consuming than it sounds). The rubber bumpers would totally work too! Good idea. With the beads, they do shatter at times from impact after awhile.
That seaguar leader is $50 - you think that's worth it?
The hook and line are what’s connecting you and the fish, so I personally like to invest and get what I think are the best for me to minimize my chances of losing them.
@@FishingwithRod Thanks. Why are you fishing! great day before the rains...
Great vedio !
But ,You didn’t show us the total connection up to the swivel after you had tied the hook !
Wish you had shown us the complete set up ….
Newbie here !!
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Thank you Paul!
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I saw on another comment you mentioned a shimano clarus would be good all around budget salmon rod. I see there are several versions of that rod. Which would you recommend? I was thinking CSS96M2D because I have a spinning reel. Thanks!
Yep, there is one Clarus baitcasting model with the exact same specs as the rod being shown in this video - 10'6", 10 - 20lb. I don't have the model # handy but if you go into the store with that information, they should be able to find it quite easily.
Would the 9’6” 8-12lb spinning version be ok? I don’t have any experience with baitcasting and already have a 2500 shimano reel.
@@DR-nu3jo You certainly can float fish with a 9'6" spinning rod. Does it do a good job? No. There really isn't a good spinning substitute for baitcasting or centerpin setups if you want to float fish. You'd be dealing with constantly trying to leave your bail open and let enough line out so you can create a smooth drift, you'd end up with too much loose line and the hooksets would not be great. Give it a try. If it doesn't work, then you'd have a good rod for spoons and spinners.
Thanks rod!
Thanks.... Still working on this 🤣.
Keep going! This season is the one! 🙂
Pair it with Daiwa Luna, and it's the perfect combo!
What's wrong with my Tranx? 😉