The APOCALYPTIC GOD Locked Behind BLACKHOLES - Star Wars Legends

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  • Today we take a closer look at ABELOTH, and specifically her origins, and how she was locked behind blackholes by the Celestials, and specifically the Ones. All that and more on today's Star Wars Legends videos!
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  • @owhamdvid7837
    @owhamdvid7837 3 ปีที่แล้ว +268

    Star Wars in 1977: haha funny laser sword go brrr
    Star Wars today:

    • @Snagabott
      @Snagabott 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The longest journies always start with a single step.

    • @Ixe2077
      @Ixe2077 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dude the first Star Wars was never really humorous unless the bantercounts, other than that it is ominous and like discovering an unknown entity. Everyone liked it apparently. Then we got ESB and by then Lucas had planned out the other previous 3. Ah, what a time to he alive. Infact I would like to add to the lore with a small scale comic. I'd like to test my drawing and storytelling skills after years of watching film and media.

    • @Nollic15
      @Nollic15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Planet of billions go boom lol

    • @Spritzkrieg
      @Spritzkrieg ปีที่แล้ว

      They really DO go brrr!

  • @frozarburst6350
    @frozarburst6350 3 ปีที่แล้ว +416

    I still love the fact that this huge story for Legends actually involved the Clone Wars. That show did so much

    • @pwnorbepwned
      @pwnorbepwned 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      It’s actually based on that Clone Wars episode. The first mention of Abeloth in Legends came after the Mortis episodes in Clone Wars.

    • @humptusdumptus4123
      @humptusdumptus4123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@pwnorbepwned wait for real?

    • @tarfeef101
      @tarfeef101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@pwnorbepwned did they actually mention abeloth at all? Thought it was just the father, daughter, and son mentioned

    • @Quake3131
      @Quake3131 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@pwnorbepwned Thank you for educating me, this blew my mind! Looked it up, the Clone Wars episode Altar of Mortis released on 04/02/2011, and Fate of the Jedi released on 13/03/2012!

    • @Malte21400
      @Malte21400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@pwnorbepwned are you sure about that? The clone wars episodes aired 2011, the legends novel series aired 2009-2012

  • @Duchess_Van_Hoof
    @Duchess_Van_Hoof 3 ปีที่แล้ว +226

    Pity she will not be developed further, the concept holds great potential.

  • @michaelramon2411
    @michaelramon2411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +172

    I personally interpret Abeloth as serving as an "anti-Force." The Son is the Dark Side of the Force, the Daughter the Light Side and the Father is a balance between the two. But Abeloth? Abeloth is DEATH. The end of the Force through the end of life itself. That is why she is one of the only common enemies between Jedi and Sith - they disagree on how to serve/use the Force, but neither of them want to end it.

    • @asonofhoruslegionary
      @asonofhoruslegionary 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Then it’s a good thing Abeloth never met Kreia.

    • @Nollic15
      @Nollic15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@asonofhoruslegionary maybe kreia is a disciple or even an avatar of her.

    • @RicardoPerez-rz8pu
      @RicardoPerez-rz8pu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      The idea of Kreia being a student or a Disguise of Abeloth is scary

    • @AAhmou
      @AAhmou ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Frick it makes too much sense !

    • @calebskillin2694
      @calebskillin2694 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Kriea however makes a statement where she says she does not want all life to end, just the force. She saw weakness in reliance upon it, and tyranny in its guiding hand. She wanted Nihilous stopped because he would inevitably consume all life, counter to her own goals

  • @tarfeef101
    @tarfeef101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    Man every time I think about fate of the Jedi I wish they'd let EU authors continue that continuity in parallel... I bought these as they came out, and was so sad when the mara jade series that came next was nixed with the rest of the EU

    • @blackshogun272
      @blackshogun272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Why they can't just make an alternate Canon timeline for the EU and profit off/please the fans is bewildering to me...

    • @ozgreatsage5266
      @ozgreatsage5266 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@blackshogun272 They won’t because it would outsell their new novels and make them look bad. They don’t care about money. Cara Dune was one of the highest selling new characters and they are cancelling all her merchandise. #FireKathleenKennedy. #BringBackTheEU.

    • @blackshogun272
      @blackshogun272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@ozgreatsage5266 I've known since jump that if even a single animated movie or series based directly off events in the EU/Legends universe, then it'd blow any of their previous NuCanon content out of the water. All the attention would be on what's coming next after "that" series. And what Disney and this poisoned Lucasfilm group hate more than being disagreed with is being ignored or worse; ridiculed...

    • @matternativ
      @matternativ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wait, Mara? I thought the Jaina Solo series "Sword of the Jedi" was supposed to be the next big thing.

    • @jowbabadook8530
      @jowbabadook8530 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It took me a solid minute to realize that, in saying EU, you meant extended universe and not European Union

  • @lucasart328
    @lucasart328 3 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    Remember when there was only few art and illustrations of her

    • @danielalbertalexander9064
      @danielalbertalexander9064 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeah you were right....abeloth is still mysterious to me

    • @lilpablo99
      @lilpablo99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I remember eck asking for some art to be done a while back if I’m not mistaken
      These may be fan art for eck which is really cool to me

  • @wezzy9437
    @wezzy9437 3 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    Actually she drank from the font of power like the Brother, and bathed in the pool of wisdom like the Daughter, which caused her to transform into Abeloth.

    • @pizzlepayne91
      @pizzlepayne91 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I feel like somehow abeloth will be ashoka for some reason. it's just in my guts. not sure if anyone else has said this yet or anything, but yea. after watching this video, that's the feeling my guts gave me. thanks guts.

    • @BanesBasement
      @BanesBasement 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@pizzlepayne91 what are you trying to say bud? do you mean ahsoka will be abeloth in canon?

    • @cosmic_sloth
      @cosmic_sloth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@pizzlepayne91 That doesn't make sense considering Abeloth was born 100,000 years before Ahsoka.

    • @jaybird0312
      @jaybird0312 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@pizzlepayne91that is just plain moronic 🤣🤣🤣

  • @toshitajoshi3851
    @toshitajoshi3851 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Abeloth: I am FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE and ready to spread chaos
    Darth Nihilus: Get in line, buddy

  • @Choatemister
    @Choatemister 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Anakin: So what’s the worst thing you’ve heard of?
    Obiwan: *long drag* So there’s this god of chaos. She’s locked behind blackholes and is all powerful. But so long as the embodiments of the force exist we’re okay.
    Anakin: Oh, yeah. We’re finnnnnnne.

    • @jchea1764
      @jchea1764 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Anakin : but if somehow it escapes , you and me can stop it right ? like we always did..

    • @gerrykomalaysia2
      @gerrykomalaysia2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And she was a good friend

    • @snapeinvader6208
      @snapeinvader6208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@jchea1764 Vader, after the clone wars: "Huh, I wonder if that family was the embodiment of the force Obi-wan talked about...eh, not my problem"

    • @fordprefect1587
      @fordprefect1587 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@snapeinvader6208 there’s you’re solution! Put an SEP field around it. (Somebody else’s problem)

    • @Leywaaaa
      @Leywaaaa 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@gerrykomalaysia2and we told her there are No clothes in Space

  • @prehistorichero2755
    @prehistorichero2755 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    If Abeloth was featured in the Star Wars film universe, she would've replaced Palpatine as the greatest villain in the Star Wars franchise.

    • @pyrdacorsrollenspielarchiv3747
      @pyrdacorsrollenspielarchiv3747 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Palpatine and Vader would look like elementary school pupils...

    • @histguy101
      @histguy101 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      At the time, all the book die hards complained endlessly about Abeloth and how she didn't "fit" into the Star Wars universe.

    • @prehistorichero2755
      @prehistorichero2755 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@histguy101 It actually does since Star Wars is about the danger of evil.

  • @charlieo1138
    @charlieo1138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I really liked most of Fate of the Jedi. I listened to it on audible and when Luke and Ben board Sinkhole station is done so well. It's so creepy and I want a horror/suspense movie about sinkhole so badly.

    • @benforden
      @benforden 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The audiobooks are awesome - I love the scene where Grand Lord Vol fights Abeloth on Kesh, so well done

  • @luluflu1140
    @luluflu1140 3 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    I'm so sad that Legend was not continued. We could have had two continuities but Lucasfilm choose to kill Legends even though dedicated fans have been following and buying these stories for years. Their loyalty was not rewarded. 🙁

    • @exarkun9790
      @exarkun9790 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bro there's legit a new legends book coming out in like a month and its the biggest SW Novel yet

    • @exarkun9790
      @exarkun9790 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JediAcolyte94 Thats cos Disney doesnt officially announce anything for Legends because they are done with it but SWTOR is still getting expansions and the Supernatural Encounters Novel is being released in its entirety in about a month
      th-cam.com/video/DEArDNiOaJ0/w-d-xo.html
      here's a vid on it
      but u can read about it here
      www.starwarstimeline.net

    • @exarkun9790
      @exarkun9790 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JediAcolyte94 it most certainly does count its fully licensed and fact checked just because it is only licensed for online publication doesn’t mean it’s not a novel, it’s still the biggest Star Wars book to date and we are getting a ton of content in it, an there are a few other legends books released after the Disney purge namely Skyewalkers

    • @luluflu1140
      @luluflu1140 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@exarkun9790 Never heard of this book before. Thanks for all the information !

    • @josiahzabel8596
      @josiahzabel8596 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      just the opposite- feels like we were punished for it. "SUBMIT TO THE ALMIGHTY MICKEY PEASENTS!"

  • @RedComet1701
    @RedComet1701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +453

    Abeloth still exists in Canon. They just changed her name to Kathleen Kennedy

    • @T_L_O_S
      @T_L_O_S 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      That can be true

    • @Ixe2077
      @Ixe2077 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Headcanon? Heck yes.

    • @trevorvallo5841
      @trevorvallo5841 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Savage! 😂😂😂

    • @T_L_O_S
      @T_L_O_S 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@trevorvallo5841 Oppress?

    • @trevorvallo5841
      @trevorvallo5841 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@T_L_O_S LMAO!! Good one! 😂😂 👏

  • @mithonig6553
    @mithonig6553 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I had a few favorites durng Fate of the Jedi. The clash on Dathomir or the battle on the sith planet. What caught my attention was how much Luke learned on his journey to understand Jacen.

    • @Tenancy92
      @Tenancy92 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes i loved listening through that journey he took with his son. i just wished it was more of it

    • @lmlmanonfire13
      @lmlmanonfire13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Legacy of the Force and Fate of the Jedi are pretty solid book series. I got into them after reading the commando novels. Karen traviss did a few of the legacy books. People go crazy for thrawn but a lot of the later books were very good

    • @Tenancy92
      @Tenancy92 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lmlmanonfire13 indeed. most of the books are good

  • @permafrost8322
    @permafrost8322 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Yes more legends content I have missed these videos!

  • @Mgauge
    @Mgauge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I always like it when the series is allowed to cut loose and show how powerful the Force really is. That and show that killing the Ones did have a serious impact.

  • @Izzy_Dead
    @Izzy_Dead 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Fate of the Jedi doesn't get the respect it deserves. Such a good series.

    • @epsilon3569
      @epsilon3569 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@khalduras784 Like Splinter of the Mind's Eye was any good lol Literally the first EU book, even more off in left field than any later books. LotF did an amazing job fixing the incoherence of the older books, and FotJ had it back on track with some of the best writers in sci-fi collaborating on an epic story that questioned the very nature of the Force itself, and I was all about. Pre-ordered every book.

  • @ABZB13
    @ABZB13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I would imagine that Centerpoint is working against some a combination of:
    1) The configurations that the black holes have to be in are not compatible with at least stable orbits in the long term, or there are sufficiently many of them that there's no way you're not going to have black holes ejected from the system or merging with each other over the long run, so Centerpoint is doing a combination of station-keeping and orbital corrections.
    2) Abeloth is constantly actively disrupting the orbits of the black holes.

  • @matthewmartinez3907
    @matthewmartinez3907 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can’t with your dog lol that at the end gets me every time.

  • @fgmods
    @fgmods 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think I’ve seen every Star Wars channel do Abeloth at least twice now.
    It’s good to see the quality improves each time.

  • @awesomeantics
    @awesomeantics 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "The apocalyptic god that got trapped behind a black hole " new band name

  • @Raktus
    @Raktus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Would love to see an Abeloth vs Mnggal-Mnggal comparison ;-)

  • @sufianabuahmad7781
    @sufianabuahmad7781 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I thought she drank from font of power and bathed in pool of knowledge? Each separately powered the son and the daughter

  • @BanesBasement
    @BanesBasement 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I know Fate of the Jedi gets a lot of flack, but I did always like how it was one of the few EU series that really connected with TCW and expanded on the most interesting thing it introduced, Mortis. I also greatly enjoyed seeing Luke connecting with his son and seeing Ben grow into his own person.
    Thanks for keeping up the consistent EU content Eck! I feel it’s not broached enough on TH-cam by people who actually have read the novels, so it’s greatly appreciated by its readers like me :)

    • @hiwrenhere
      @hiwrenhere 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I loved it start to finish. Was such a great series.

    • @tarfeef101
      @tarfeef101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Actually my favourite series tbh. Read it at least once a year

  • @ORegan77
    @ORegan77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If only centerpoint station had a "do not move" warning

  • @FeedYourBrainChannel
    @FeedYourBrainChannel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:03 Abeloth also bathed from the Pool of Knowledge, another Force Nexus from Beyond Shadows. The Font was imbued with the dark side and the Pool was imbued with the light, which turned Abeloth into a heinous monster.

  • @ig70000
    @ig70000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Fate of the Jedi series is one of those series that I love going back to every so often is well written and just a general fun time to read idk what it is about the series that keep me so engaged each time I reread it

  • @toshitajoshi3851
    @toshitajoshi3851 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Anakin could control the Son and daughter, so maybe he has a big chance to defeat abeloth
    But alas
    *He ded*

    • @yggunshot8402
      @yggunshot8402 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, he would have to fight her on Mortis since Mortis Anakin is the only version that has that kind of power.

    • @toshitajoshi3851
      @toshitajoshi3851 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yggunshot8402 Yes, so he could lure her there and finish her off

    • @yggunshot8402
      @yggunshot8402 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@toshitajoshi3851 I suppose so, Abeloth is pretty obsessed with the son and daughter so perhaps they could lure her to Mortis.

    • @mrconfusion87
      @mrconfusion87 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If Anakin drank from that fountain and dipped in that pool, yes! But not before then... 🤷‍♂️

  • @stokeswait1984
    @stokeswait1984 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I want to see them make a freaken film on her! Like a love/horror tragedy, mainly horror type film in the Star wars franchise like she is straight up smile face creepy stuff. Based on abeloth! Dude If i had a ton of money, I would so pay off a film crew and a great director to do this!

    • @mrconfusion87
      @mrconfusion87 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hire Eva Green to play Abeloth! 😁

  • @demogorgonzola
    @demogorgonzola 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    ``The Ones existed``... the "ones" hmmm, it really reminds me of a scene in the "Airheads" movie... :)
    _- "The Lone Rangers." How can you pluralize "The Lone Ranger"?_
    _- What's wrong with that?_
    _- Well, there's three of you.
    You're not exactly lone. Shouldn't you be The Three Rangers?_

    • @jrrdwllms88
      @jrrdwllms88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Underrated film.

    • @derrickstorm6976
      @derrickstorm6976 ปีที่แล้ว

      Smfh it doesn't mean "the ones who are alone together" but "the specific ones"

  • @nickidog452
    @nickidog452 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When me and a friend were talking about how to fix the sequel trilogy part of it had ray be a solo and have abeloth be behind everything trying to make ray and kylo ren be the new son and daughter as a form of revenge against Anakin for the death of her family

  • @tba113
    @tba113 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm one of the fans who wandered off during the Yuuzhan Vong War arc, so it and everything after never really showed up on my radar. I had other things to do, and diving into a dozen novels I'd already written off as "the heroes fight, like, Skeletor, but less believable" took a back seat to everything else in my life.
    It's a shame, because I'm a huge Lovecraft fan, so the Abeloth arc would have been pure brain candy for me. Seeing the hints of something truly alien like Abeloth driving Force users insane from beyond the inescapable pull of ravenous stellar phenomena, and finding out that impossibly ancient artifacts like Centerpoint Station and what had been thought of as natural phenomena like The Maw were actually purpose-built systems designed to lock that horror away... That would have been awesome, and I'd have read the hell out of it.

    • @mrconfusion87
      @mrconfusion87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And too dangerous even the Jedi and Sith had to team-up!

  • @Johnny_Rico.You_Know_WhatTo_Do
    @Johnny_Rico.You_Know_WhatTo_Do 3 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    It is wild that we now accept abeloth because of how bad Disney did. I remember when this was considered pure trash. All those early forums. Not a knock at ecks ladder just wild how people now accept abeloth because at least it isn't the sequel trilogy

    • @friendlyfriday3445
      @friendlyfriday3445 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      “but that’s the thing about unhappiness; all it takes is for something worse to come along and you realize that it was actually happiness after all.” I think this best fits what your saying. Try to guess where I got this quote from

    • @friendlyfriday3445
      @friendlyfriday3445 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@EternalEmperorofZakuul yes exactly. The expanded universe showed us that Sith and Jedi are but fraction of what Star Wars really is.

    • @Johnny_Rico.You_Know_WhatTo_Do
      @Johnny_Rico.You_Know_WhatTo_Do 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@EternalEmperorofZakuul It just feels like someone going through the closet of a friend after they die.

    • @Johnny_Rico.You_Know_WhatTo_Do
      @Johnny_Rico.You_Know_WhatTo_Do 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@friendlyfriday3445 It sounds like Stephen King. Maybe IT

    • @friendlyfriday3445
      @friendlyfriday3445 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@EternalEmperorofZakuul do you think other companies would done any better if they bought the right to Star Wars. I believe universal studios made an offer but George was thinking about selling it to Disney or Fox. I believe universal would have actually respected the source material a lot better than Disney has.

  • @Averagejoe-wl9ym
    @Averagejoe-wl9ym 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love all your abeloth content!

  • @mackenziebeeney3764
    @mackenziebeeney3764 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Perhaps the point of the stations wasn’t the keep the Maw together, but rather, apart, to prevent the black hole from drifting too close and making paths of escape or prevent black holes from merging. A black hole is a beast, a cluster of them are an impossibility.

  • @izzyalistair
    @izzyalistair 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always love a good video on Abeloth

  • @HarvestMoonHowl
    @HarvestMoonHowl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Abeloth is one of those things that even gives Palpatine night terrors....

    • @mrconfusion87
      @mrconfusion87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yup! So much so even his greedy, ambitious ass stays away from her (and we all know he is in a never-ending quest for UNLIMITED POWER and will seek just about any method to get it)! 🤣

  • @MrSoiree
    @MrSoiree 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like Fate of the Jedi a lot. My favorite part *spoilers*
    was when it was revealed that Callista had merged with Abeloth

  • @johnharrington9045
    @johnharrington9045 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Eckhart, if you haven't already you should give Supernatural Encounters a read. It goes into so much detail of a sort of creation myth, including the celestials and how they shaped the universe. Abeloth and the Ones make an appearance

    • @exarkun9790
      @exarkun9790 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its gone under the radar lol, but yeh its coming out in its full glory in about a month, recommend watching this video
      th-cam.com/video/DEArDNiOaJ0/w-d-xo.html

  • @AlbelNox
    @AlbelNox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you've not only covered this you did it better the first time

  • @jfkkkkkkkk4158
    @jfkkkkkkkk4158 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    your vidoes and your content is dope keep up the great work.

  • @Vaelias
    @Vaelias 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    There is A LOT of content that you didnt cover in this video tbh her back story is now fully fleshed out with Supernatural Encounters, you should do some videos covering the new lore, ive heard you say it was canceled before in a previous novel, but let it be known that its not, its coming out fully in like a month and the Wookiepedia article on it is incorrect, check out this video on it, should cover everything th-cam.com/video/DEArDNiOaJ0/w-d-xo.html
    you complained on twitter about SW YT being dry, so there's gonna be a lot to cover for you now, should solve that issue

    • @connorcochran3747
      @connorcochran3747 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Finally someone asked for it i love that story

    • @Vaelias
      @Vaelias 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@connorcochran3747 its gone under the radar big time, and the outdated wookiepedia article sure doesn't help lol

  • @ImperialTrooperProductions
    @ImperialTrooperProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finished FOTJ last week. I love it. Its sad that so much ended open. But maybe one day we are getting an answer

  • @theemperorcat9832
    @theemperorcat9832 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I may or may not lemonade my pants after seeing Abeloth on the thumbnail ._.

  • @massamune70
    @massamune70 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol.. The dog at the end of the video... 🤣🤣🤣

  • @lightspeedvictory
    @lightspeedvictory 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    #askeck Most sources agree that the Vong invaded the galaxy through the galactic north. Yet, the Vong wiped out the Duskhan League in a genocide as well as devastated the Ssi-ruuvi Imperium. So wat was the actual invasion route?
    Versus request:
    Resurgent vs. Starhawk
    Tie Striker vs. New Republic V-Wing
    World Devastator vs. Vong Worldship
    Tie Silencer vs. X-83 Twintail
    Tie Silencer vs. Tie Defender (legends version)
    Keldabe vs. ISD II
    MC90 vs. Nebula class star destroyer
    Nebula class vs. Pellaeon class
    Majestic class vs. Bothan Assault Cruiser

    • @joelmcfly5172
      @joelmcfly5172 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      There is a invasion map of the Vong war. Three actually. The Duskhan League got wiped out after the core collapsed since they are next to each other

    • @emzonik8851
      @emzonik8851 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's stupid that everything in the galaxy happenes like the universe was flat or sth. Why did the Vong have to invade from a direction on the same plane as the galactic map XD?? They could have came from any direction, it's unlikely they'd enter the galaxy from it's edge. They could have started with Coruscant already had they invaded from above/below the galaxy.

    • @lightspeedvictory
      @lightspeedvictory 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@emzonik8851 there’s some form of hyperspace barrier that prevents travel through the edges of the galaxy. Where the Vong invaded was one of the few “openings” that they could enter the galaxy through

    • @emzonik8851
      @emzonik8851 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lightspeedvictory Ok then, thanks.

    • @lightspeedvictory
      @lightspeedvictory 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@emzonik8851 👍

  • @jeremymunsch8592
    @jeremymunsch8592 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Loved that series so much.

  • @FFGuy-eu7hr
    @FFGuy-eu7hr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The part about keeping the black holes together actually makes sense. They were probably held in place at specific locations, designed to prevent travel but also not so close they would fall into each other.

  • @gigamoumantai2696
    @gigamoumantai2696 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think this terrifying god is way more powerful than anything Vitiate ever encounter so far...

  • @mrscary3105
    @mrscary3105 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved the NJO/FOTJ books with her.

  • @teekayfourtwoone4686
    @teekayfourtwoone4686 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TH-cam placed this video right next to "Physicist Brian Cox Explains Black Holes in Plain English - Joe Rogan" from two years ago, and both videos used the same black hole picture in their thumbnail.

  • @jayburn00
    @jayburn00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Theoretically, the black holes could drift apart, albeit in clusters. It all depends on the orbits. The black holes won't simply be attracted to each other as if they are magnets. Unless they are completely evenly distributed, the black holes could end up going in different directions. Also, there is a phenomena that opposes gravity called dark energy. The maw cluster was held together in stable orbits by centerpoint, and without centerpoint, some black holes will be pulled together, while some will "shoot" off. That said, things get very whacky when dealing with multiple black holes. With our current understanding of black holes, you can use two black holes interacting with each other travel back in time!

    • @SephirothRyu
      @SephirothRyu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Better description: A number of facilities, Centerpoint and others included, were basically keeping them in an equilibrium of sorts. The ones that got destroyed first were the ones in charge of the "keeping them together" aspect. Other facilities were in charge of "keeping them far enough apart to not all join as one." Perhaps because this would either weaken the prison to combine them into a single localized entity, or because of some other reason that might have basically been "tl;dr, we need to use a bunch of black holes across a certain area of space in order to preserve the seal."
      Or, in the event that Abaloth was, as per that one theory, a "reset button" more than a terror that the Ones tried to keep away, then perhaps letting all the black holes merge would have actually caused her harm. And perhaps the natural orbits combined with the various functions and alterations put into place by Centerpoint and similar facilities was, in fact, essentially an insanely large mechanical computer/clock which would be set to release her when she is needed. And which may have had a failsafe for in the event that one or more controlling stations were destroyed (which is very much possible given the theory being about her being a "reset switch" for when there is too much war).

    • @jayburn00
      @jayburn00 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SephirothRyu wow. Has some similarities to my idea with the whole equilibrium thing, but I really like your idea of it being similar to a giant mechanical computer. Sort of like a giant Antikythira Mechanism made of black holes and space stations. This would also seem to fit with how the Ones went about things, having their creations often have multiple purposes.

  • @danielalbertalexander9064
    @danielalbertalexander9064 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Her fear of left by the ones makes her to become blind of power make her drank from the font of power and bathed from the pool of knowledge making it to become abeloth

  • @daltonslayton6766
    @daltonslayton6766 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The ones are like Nephilms. The children of angels and humans.

  • @shaneshackleford6960
    @shaneshackleford6960 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Disney should have used Abeloth as an explanation for the singularity known as Rey.

    • @mrconfusion87
      @mrconfusion87 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rey Palpatine as her avatar! 🤣

  • @patchworkfellow4262
    @patchworkfellow4262 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    *If drinking from the Font of Power gives you the power of the Dark Side, and bathing in the Pool of Wisdom gives you the power of the Light Side, but doing both drives you insane, then how did the Father gain his power over both without going insane like Abeloth?*

    • @thirdplanet4471
      @thirdplanet4471 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think the father found a way to maintain balance unlike Abeloth. Though what balance is can be up for interpretation

    • @patchworkfellow4262
      @patchworkfellow4262 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thirdplanet4471 ahhh, thanks :)

    • @mrconfusion87
      @mrconfusion87 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Simple - the Father is a celestial!

  • @novabonk
    @novabonk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Could you do videos on the swarm war and the dismissal of Luke from the Jedi order? These are things I haven’t heard of before...

  • @wigligigly3375
    @wigligigly3375 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    lol I remember the original video that you made. That pin literally gave me nightmares

  • @mrwinterhd5202
    @mrwinterhd5202 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice!

  • @phoenixx913
    @phoenixx913 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And the craziest thing about her is that it took the most powerful jedi and sith working together to defeat her and Luke had to kill her physical body, defeat her mind and then go into the force realm and defeat her soul and she's still not dead he even stated she'll return one day.
    Also she bathed from the fount of power and drank from the pool of knowledge, the overwhelming light and dark side power twisted her, broke her mind and drove her insane in addition to twisting her into a monster.

  • @haltechecu5710
    @haltechecu5710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We did get a book on his quest knights... and what luke thinks could of been mortis..

  • @blaze_mode5934
    @blaze_mode5934 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sweet vid brotha! Do you know if she was in the comics?
    🌙🌙🙏

  • @willlasdf123
    @willlasdf123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if Abaloth is the one that fucked the Ratakan's connect to the force and brought about the ascendency of Man. Talk about chaos!
    That would be kind of a cool thing to explore!

  • @mixartjohnson8968
    @mixartjohnson8968 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    She did not just drink from the Font of Power, she bathed in the Pool of Knowledge. If she just drank from the Font of Power, she would just be a dark side being like her son or dead.

  • @nomadoma9422
    @nomadoma9422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Maybe Abeloth was behind the force plague the Rakatans suffered from

  • @matg919
    @matg919 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love fate of the Jedi, it’s one of my favourite series of books and I was looking forward to the story continuing when Disney killed the EU.

    • @blackshogun272
      @blackshogun272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I wonder if you'd like this new story being finished by this Star Wars author?
      www.starwarstimeline.net/Supernatural_Encounters.htm
      I know it's not complete but he stated it'd be completed by Spring

    • @exarkun9790
      @exarkun9790 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is literally a new EU novel coming out in like a month
      th-cam.com/video/DEArDNiOaJ0/w-d-xo.html

    • @exarkun9790
      @exarkun9790 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@blackshogun272 Its coming out in about a month, gonna be so awesome ive ordered a physical copy, last legends book tho :(

  • @o.n.e-onlinenaturaleducati5597
    @o.n.e-onlinenaturaleducati5597 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Imagine if the sequel trilogy had been about Snoke or Kylo trying to bring Abaloth into the galaxy, and then at the end of Episode 8 they actually do it.

    • @fordprefect1587
      @fordprefect1587 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know. Would have been a way better plot line, and most of the material exists already.

    • @mrconfusion87
      @mrconfusion87 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only for her to subsume them! 🤣

  • @GuntherRommel
    @GuntherRommel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    New microphone? Sounds really clear.

  • @puki860
    @puki860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So star wars has it's own mehrunes dagon

  • @ShadySliver17
    @ShadySliver17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    She deserves to be in a movie

  • @Grifffffith
    @Grifffffith 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Are The Ones from this book or from Clone Wars?

  • @PyroMancer2k
    @PyroMancer2k 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well the black holes floating apart might be a result of Abeloth using her powers to slowly push open her cage. The other possibility is that the gravitational balancing act required would be insane as if you have a line of black holes eventually based on spacing and size some are going to move towards each other but that means that others will move away from each other creating larger gaps in some areas and smaller ones in others. Not to mention everything in space is already moving as it orbits the galaxy and everything in space pulls on everything else as star clusters pass by and many other things all move around changing the gravitational balance in an area.
    Orbits in the galaxy are not like orbits in the solar system where everything is on a track and nicely spaced out. Look at our own solar system's history as our current closest neighboring star is 4 light years away but millions of years ago a star that is now like 22 light years away was less than a light year away from us. The galaxy is more like a busy highway with stars moving at different speeds as they pass by each other and shift around in positions. Their all going the same general direction but their not all gonna get there are the same time or same order. And as they pass each other they pull on each other causing some to slow down and others to speed up.
    So yeah black holes getting pulled out of position over long periods of time makes perfect sense as nothing is stationary in space, it's only our point of view that makes it appear stationary. Much like people thought the sun went around the stationary Earth in ancient times because our perspective makes it appear that way.

    • @PyroMancer2k
      @PyroMancer2k 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Side Note: There is this misconception that black holes are gravitationally stronger than other objects. They are not, they are simply more compact as if you were to take a giant star of the same mass it would have the exact same effect gravitational speaking on the area around it. The main different is that because the mass is so compact you can get closer to the center of mass then you could a massive burning hot star. But also because the gravitational effects are so compact it creates a case were gravity won't let even light escape. But if you are say the distance out from it like that of Earth you won't even notice such as if you were to compress our star into a black hole the Earth would continue on it's orbit normally, granted the planet would freeze but in terms of gravitational effects on orbit nothing changes because the mass of the sun doesn't change, only how compressed that mass is.
      It's like that video which weighs more a Kg of Steel or a Kg of Feathers and the guy immediately responses with a Kg of Steel. Then the rest of it is people trying to explain their weight is the same it's just Steel is more sense so we consider it heavier because it has more mass in a smaller area but when you have the same weight amount the objects weight the same by definition.

  • @cloudcleaver23
    @cloudcleaver23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Abeloth and FotJ really made some fantastic chicken salad out of the proverbial chicken shit that was the Mordis arc in TCW.

  • @fordprefect1587
    @fordprefect1587 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hang on: they could make all these black holes surround a planet... but somehow could not grab her with it and chuck her in one. Seems legit.

  • @ArmouredProductions
    @ArmouredProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wait the Killiks? I wonder if any Joiners like Vector Hyllus from SWTOR know about Abeloth then.

  • @negus6383
    @negus6383 ปีที่แล้ว

    Final villain before star wars content is permanently finished

  • @ohionumber1247
    @ohionumber1247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:44 did anybody else say “the Holy Spirit “

  • @Kspice9000
    @Kspice9000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yeah but how would she do against the Flood?

  • @NovexusNui777
    @NovexusNui777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As I am watching this, it's currently 3:02 :3
    *Hopefully nothing spooky happens*

  • @arctrooper7494
    @arctrooper7494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I should not be watching this before bed

  • @Nuetral768
    @Nuetral768 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    More accurately I think the black holes "drifting apart" was more like an illusion, that they would absorb one another rather without something to hold them apart and as they did would form "cracks" between those that were less proximal and those more proximal (and likely affected by Abeloth herself). This illusion may seem more accurate as the black holes were initially pulled together by both stations (however this assumes the stations could only pull them to that point and not from... which is kinda ridiculous). Alternatively it might just be that what kept the black holes from being able to absorb each other or consume Abeloth herself was Abeloth constantly pushing against them with the force (and this would also make sense... within the realm of Star Wars at least).

    • @dutchrjen
      @dutchrjen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Or like everything else in the universe the black holes were orbiting each other. If all there was is gravity, then earth would have fallen into the Sun billions of years ago.
      Perhaps the blackholes had orbital velocities way to great to normally be held together by gravity alone. The Maw was artificially created so this could have been done.
      When the artificial controls disappeared, the black holes started drifting apart like two balls spinning in space with a string between and the string breaking.
      With gravitational waves a bunch of black holes orbiting one another should collapse VERY fast... well unless they have an abundance of extra angular velocity and the system is unnatural.

  • @matternativ
    @matternativ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of my favourite parts of Fate of the Jedi was actually the relationship and adventures of Ben and Luke.
    The former had never been all that interesting to me and the latter had his ups and downs but them bonding over the losses of Jacen and Mara served as a strong emotional core of a story that otherwise didn't always hit the nail on the head for me.

  • @yourmom7901
    @yourmom7901 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Bro didn’t you already make a video on this???

  • @jamesmiller1401
    @jamesmiller1401 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What would happen if the Jedi order encountered the Second Foundation?

  • @johnsteiner3417
    @johnsteiner3417 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope this was part of the E.U. that got thrown out.

  • @brucwayn6403
    @brucwayn6403 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This story would make an awesome animated series a shame its not better gone into

  • @timothyrobison640
    @timothyrobison640 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Abaloth was actually killed in the follow up to fate of the Jedi in a single book called crucible.

  • @TheVakama112
    @TheVakama112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Why do I feel like you do a similar Abeloth video every year?

    • @rancidrance875
      @rancidrance875 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think all the star wars TH-camrs keep making them

    • @mrconfusion87
      @mrconfusion87 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is their way of telegraphing their wish for a Star Wars film featuring Abeloth! 🤣

  • @lordvader4089
    @lordvader4089 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    we never got anything after this series because disney said f the fans.

  • @FrantisekPicifuk
    @FrantisekPicifuk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Haha 40k space horrors go brrrrrrrrrrrrrr

  • @DudleyStadler
    @DudleyStadler 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s implied kessel is part of the system also.

  • @Prophetofthe8thLegion
    @Prophetofthe8thLegion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Four dark gods watched from the sky...
    Always plotting how the universe will die...
    A unsuspecting pawn they found...
    twisted she was till she was bound...
    Four malignant energies consumed her soul.
    Rage
    pleasure
    knowledge
    and decay
    was what replaced her soul.
    Four dark gods smiled with glee...
    As the slave of Chaos was unleashed...

    • @FMirage2000C
      @FMirage2000C 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Si if I understand well your theory, Abeloth is some kind of horrifyingly powerful chaos demon, like Be’Lakor?

    • @Prophetofthe8thLegion
      @Prophetofthe8thLegion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FMirage2000C Something like that.

    • @FMirage2000C
      @FMirage2000C 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Prophetofthe8thLegion I like the Idea. :)

  • @somdavarya8078
    @somdavarya8078 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Last of the Fate Jedi Books;
    Also, can You do a vid of Tenebrae (the Sith Emperor)?

  • @Paerigos
    @Paerigos 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just love Vestara Khai...

  • @star_krafter
    @star_krafter 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the link to the guy playing with the corgi.

  • @zombiemaster4525
    @zombiemaster4525 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    uh you already made an Abeloth two part series explaining this lol

  • @o.k.productions5202
    @o.k.productions5202 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    #askeck, is Keo from squadrons force sensitive?

  • @growthpotion5189
    @growthpotion5189 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    After this video was made, I started getting ads for new Star Wars books and comics from legends. Is legends making a comeback?

  • @Im-Not-a-Dog
    @Im-Not-a-Dog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "The Ones are not Celestials....also I am going to immediately refer to them as Celestials."

    • @blackshogun272
      @blackshogun272 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      From what I learned in the last two years, they're just Celestials that needed themselves so they could properly (safely) interact with the beings and things they created; aliens species, animals, plant life, star systems, etc...

    • @exarkun9790
      @exarkun9790 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are Celestials, but they incarnated into Mortal form to come to the Skyriver Galaxy

  • @edmai6451
    @edmai6451 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Darth Nihilus vs Abeloth👀👀👀

    • @exarkun9790
      @exarkun9790 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Abeloth oneshots him with ease lol, Nihilus is so overrated

    • @edmai6451
      @edmai6451 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@exarkun9790 Hah!!! Nihilus would easily drain the Force from You!!!
      🤔
      Then you'll forever be called Exar Prune!!!😂🙊😂

    • @exarkun9790
      @exarkun9790 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@edmai6451 Not really, Traya confirmed Nihilus was only approaching the power of Ajunta Pall, Exar Kun is multiple one shot gaps above Pall thus would oneshot Nihilus lol

    • @edmai6451
      @edmai6451 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂👍😂

    • @exarkun9790
      @exarkun9790 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@edmai6451 your name is truth hurts yet you are disputing the truth to fanboy Nihilus, would you like me to pull up some sources and scaling for you