Excerpt Education: Ginastera Variaciones Concertantes

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  • @sanjostube
    @sanjostube 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow! I never realized how much goes into presenting a musical piece!

  • @SeanOsborn
    @SeanOsborn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    James, I admire you for many reasons, and today especially for having the courage to post a rehearsal where you play less than perfectly!! It is important for professionals and non-professionals alike, particularly those studying difficult music like this, to see that even the best of us isn't always perfect, how we deal with that, and how we improve. Bravo to you!!

  • @jaysparc
    @jaysparc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I was playing in a serious community orchestra, and the first rehearsal was going pretty well, I could sight read most of it. Then came Ginastera: Variaciones Concertantes which has a brutally hard Clarinet variation. The beginning is nasty, and then it gets worse from there. The silence was deafening as it got harder and harder and less and less notes (of those most were incorrect) left my horn, in my mind everyone is thinking "why is this guy here?".
    What I didn't know at the time was this is the most feared excerpt in the orchestral repertoire, and even pros fear it. It's so bad infact, that many clarinettists do it on multiple clarinets

  • @timbecile
    @timbecile ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just discovered these, and they are some of the best, most informative videos about playing in an enemble. I'm sad that there's so few of them. I want more!

  • @pablov1973
    @pablov1973 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ginastera was a fantastic composer and his works always have that kind of virtuoso writting, the clarinet variation in this work is so adictive that I always listen a couple of times when I heard the entire work.

  • @nycsym
    @nycsym 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Having conducted this piece several times I can attest that audiences generally enjoy it. All the solo passages (viola, cello, bass, etc.) are quite demanding. Ginastera is underrated. Thanks for your insights...and I agree with your view that dividing the passage by octave or instrument doesn't serve the composer's intentions well.

  • @saxefoner
    @saxefoner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I preferred it when the Eb played the top of the run. More oomf, more exciting.

  • @johnfrazier5548
    @johnfrazier5548 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bravo James! Thank you for your suggested fingerings, etc..

  • @lenniearr8428
    @lenniearr8428 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Delightful, James! I haven't picked up the instrument in 30 years, but I became a better clarinetist and musician just for watching your video. Your thoughts on collaboration with the conductor and the other players are so very important. All through high school and college I had it drilled into me that not only am I responsible for my own competence but also am to make the players around me sound as good as possible. That philosophy shines through in your work. Bravo!

  • @hudsoncampos2201
    @hudsoncampos2201 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great analysis

  • @ABbeachbum
    @ABbeachbum ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the master class. You are an amazing teacher!! 🎉🎉🎉

  • @GorgiasSanchez
    @GorgiasSanchez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for sharing this valuable material. Bravo!

  • @ambclarinet
    @ambclarinet 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    James, you are a beautiful player and I appreciate that you put yourself out there, warts and all, for the sake of others learning more about this piece. I have had the pleasure/trauma of performing this piece twice in my career and found the experiences to be a great weight-loss program. There were two concerts for each engagement and the same thing happened both times. I nailed it on the first night and was less impressive on the second night. I also played the entire variation on A Clarinet. I have since turned down gigs that program this piece and have not attended auditions that have this on their excerpt list. Too much stress and I agree, the most difficult clarinet part (for me) in the orchestral repertoire. My orchestral days are behind me but I still work on this excerpt and appreciate the analyses you have offered here. I admit I still got butterflies when you started the trill section before the run. Good work!

  • @clarinetchamber7158
    @clarinetchamber7158 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I admire you, thank you really much!

  • @ronodrich88
    @ronodrich88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great analysis, information and wonderful playing. So much fun for you to share some honest diagnostic acumen with. Thank you. The Variciones is on my stand and I am encouraged to learn that it is every bit as difficult as it seems to me and that's @
    quarter note = 110 and slowly progressing. So much fun. Thank you.Now on to 111.

  • @DanisaAlesandroni
    @DanisaAlesandroni 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for your video! It is really useful and helps me a lot to put myself in your shoes with this piece. Im going to conduct this work soon. Thanks again!

  • @MikeMiller-bm7rm
    @MikeMiller-bm7rm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love all your videos. Thank you

  • @darylsol
    @darylsol 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You are fearless! Thanks for sharing your journey even the warts

  • @alexkochoff3729
    @alexkochoff3729 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:39 I played this about 28 years ago. I played it on Bb clarinet. The fingering for the high C# I got from a book by Jack Brymer. The other piece at the concert was Ravel's Ma mère l'Oye. I asked if I could play 2nd clarinet on the Ravel so I could spend more time practicing on the Ginastera.

  • @anneliesklein3469
    @anneliesklein3469 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Allthough i probably will never play this piece, your video is fun and interesting. Thanks. Especially for the fingerings. 👍😘

  • @brownie3454
    @brownie3454 ปีที่แล้ว

    i thought these videos were deleted glad to see them reuploaded

  • @jonathanarp3040
    @jonathanarp3040 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for this performance study! I have to play the second half of this variation for ensemble auditions, and I needed some input on the octave slurs on altissimo G. I got so much more than I expected!

  • @fabriziolillo9878
    @fabriziolillo9878 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pls, another video!!

  • @peterscholesNZ
    @peterscholesNZ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Marcellus does 108bpm, you did great job!

  • @isaiahcollins6643
    @isaiahcollins6643 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this video. Will help me quite a bit with my upcoming ensemble auditions this upcoming school year!

  • @GusR0025
    @GusR0025 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video!! You did a very good job on both concerts!!
    I've had to study this piece for the first time a couple of months ago (sadly I didn't found your video until today) but after a lot of research I decided to make all the part in A clarinet except for "the run", wich I play in Bb because I like more mi high C# than mi high D.
    PS: I liked your analysis and your way of think about the tempos to understand the entire piece and the clarinet variation.
    Greetings from Argentina!

  • @matthewfontana9776
    @matthewfontana9776 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is awesome

  • @caihlen
    @caihlen 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nicely done Lad.

  • @PRL2204
    @PRL2204 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oooh you played it on an A clarinet! I'm telling.. lol! Nice playing!

  • @MegaAndre1977
    @MegaAndre1977 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bravo. Great job!

  • @cljoar
    @cljoar 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video!

  • @PascalbigT
    @PascalbigT 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I appreciate the intro music & production that include the tutti passage from the clarinet variation lmao genius

  • @HappyUke
    @HappyUke 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Video James! Lots of good info.

  • @robkunkel8833
    @robkunkel8833 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    20:24 Watching this from the eyes of an admirer, being nothing close to true clarinet caliber, YES, I see the difference! And feel it. The conductor is a different person in the Second Runthrough. // new topic // You must work very hard on editing these videos, especially searching for that cute stuff that you include. THANKS 🔎👍🏽🦆

  • @quanhoangclarinettist6225
    @quanhoangclarinettist6225 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn you really nailed that scale! I played this piece once before and couldn't reach that highest note. This is really a nasty excerpt for Clarinets.

  • @samueljarzab6364
    @samueljarzab6364 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HaHa Great video!! Crazy (but beautiful) piece!!

  • @jaypeeler2718
    @jaypeeler2718 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the vids!

  • @geanieollman2320
    @geanieollman2320 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The only time I ever had to audition this excerpt, I played it on A and did the trills and "the run" on Eb. There's just enough time to switch, and I don't think they missed the first note of the run in the slightest. ;) #offtheendofthehorndidanybodynotice #cruelandunusual

  • @zhengli5876
    @zhengli5876 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! Where can we get the sheet music?

  • @josiahphiliposian8542
    @josiahphiliposian8542 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The tempo map seems like it would be very helpful. Is it very time-consuming to create this, or is it a separate plug-in that does it? Great video!

  • @medusa210562
    @medusa210562 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have played at this level at my young age.
    There is a secret for you to get it to another level.
    Go to bad early, get up at 4:30 and play the hard parts at diverse slow speeds for one hour. DON'T PLAY IT AT TEMPO, NOT EVEN ONCE AND ABSOLUTELY DO NOT PLAY ANYTHING ELSE IN THIS PRACTICE SESSION.
    Go back to sleep or have breakfast
    Do whatever you usually do,
    Do the same next day etc etc.
    Subconsciously most people aims for a physical virtuosity but don't know how to imprint it litteraly in the subconscious

  • @robertmonie2129
    @robertmonie2129 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's great to know that you used the long fingering for the high Gs, but what fingering did you use for the highest D?

    • @slimzim
      @slimzim 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The fingering is in the video!

  • @mimosa-music
    @mimosa-music 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant video - terrific! I gave two questions: 1. what fingering do you use for the D in the final 4 bars of sextuplets? Is that an open D or a sidekey D? Secondly, I assume you use a harder reed for this piece, is that correct?

    • @kenl5472
      @kenl5472 ปีที่แล้ว

      A harder reed means a poorer embouchure. A good embouchure will play the highest notes on a soft reed. High notes are 'controlled squeaks'. Try double lip for a while and see the difference.

  • @gesamtkuntswreck
    @gesamtkuntswreck ปีที่แล้ว

    GInastera is an italian name meaning the correct pronounciation is the same fricative sound as is Gino Cioffi

  • @slateflash
    @slateflash 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This movement is amazing...when done right and without cheating going to the lower octave.
    Do you take requests? Would love to hear the Bartok Miraculous Mandarin next. All the parts on ALL the clarinets he called for :P (i've never seen that many clarinets on stage at once ever)

    • @slimzim
      @slimzim 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m at the mercy of whatever the Nashville Symphony programs, but if Miraculous Mandarin comes up again, I’ll do it!

  • @jfthiesen2947
    @jfthiesen2947 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    G r e a t ❗😎❗🤣❗😇❗🛑

  • @musokid89
    @musokid89 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do the first half of the excerpt including the run on Bb then switch to A. This video is very old and not the greatest! I'm under tempo but still a little inconsistent with the rhythm but you get the idea haha - th-cam.com/video/wGn3Q76IlFo/w-d-xo.html

  • @clarinetdonn
    @clarinetdonn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've got to play this with Auckland Chamber Orchestra in a month, and it's not the high note that scares me, it's the stuff that comes AFTER that that scares me... Nice work sir!