Post Calpheon Ball Clarity | Old Moon Podcast Ep. 77

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  • @pernodxd
    @pernodxd 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +55

    blond makes a really good point about the lore, unfortunate that blue was so dismissive

    • @quintyss1290
      @quintyss1290 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

      Blue is too impatient.

    • @theblackishboy1105
      @theblackishboy1105 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

      I was thinking the same thing if you look at that one TH-camrs videos about the lore of bdo its actually really interesting but the problem is the way they feed the lore to the player is literal garbage.
      I will say now that i finally am doing loml part 1 its actually way better than the original stories i played through, the main problem i have with loml is that it has almost nothing to do with the main story, it feels like a filler arc so although its fairly well done it has no real effect on the main events up to this point so it's hard to care about, and i have been reading all of the loml stuff. Idk if part 2 connects more or not tho I'm almost done with part 1 rn
      Another huge problem is that people THINK the story is mainly in dialogue that they skip through the quests, that's actually not true, a lot of that crap is filler, at least in the original story, the best lore parts believe it or not are in books you read. Remember those quests where they tell you to read a bunch of random books in a room or something like that? Yea those books actually have a crap ton of lore about people like hadum and illezra, caphras, etc. but who the hell is gonna read that crap especially when you've skipped 90% of what is happening up to that point.
      A codex would go a LONG way in this game, and i think they should have lore cards or some kind of nodes around the world you can collect and the black spirit or something with decipher them and tell you about events that happened in that area or how they came to be etc, that would help a lot and lore youtubers would love that and break it down for people who don't want to read all of it etc, not to mention it would make the lore more interesting because you'll have stuff to speculate on between updates and stuff like that

    • @TheOfficialMyk
      @TheOfficialMyk 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@theblackishboy1105 the loml 1 was the first time i payed attention to the story in the main questline

  • @medic7chaplin
    @medic7chaplin 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +25

    I am disappointed in you blue, talking over someone because you are so focused on being right you aren't even listening. That's childish and makes me think the poor emotional control you display for entertainment isn't just an act.

    • @bluesquadronlive
      @bluesquadronlive  13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      its incredible to me how people argue because it is a podcast and having different opinions with a discussion is literally the point. No one started yelling, both sides talked their peace and explained their point, everyone was calm and we are all friends. The only person emotional is you, and the people like you my friend are why I am considering putting the podcast down. People just cannot handle the arguments even though that is literally the point of the content. Having a discussion with different opinions on the game. Christ.

    • @bluesquadronlive
      @bluesquadronlive  13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@dwaynedontlike4638 Huh?

    • @medic7chaplin
      @medic7chaplin 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@bluesquadronlive Talking over someone when they have a different opinion than you is disrespectful. Threatening to put the podcast down because someone gave you constructive criticism further proves my point about the emotional control. Take a step back from the ego and listen to some of the viewers. I get as a content creator you get a ton of negative feed back and that takes a toll on your mental but I like your content and I don't want you to spiral. You are an intelligent guy and I hope you can realize that criticism when its constructive is meant to help you improve.

  • @Levis_Manifesto
    @Levis_Manifesto 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +22

    I've seen your Jordine Saga streams, Blue and you started mashing "R" basically immediately after you started. You didn't give it an honest try IMHO. I think the only cinematic that you've watched from start to finish was the one with Freharau's daughter (the floating girl at the end) because of booba, based BTW, but still I think you should give it a chance. It's not a "Citizen Kane" or anything but as far as MMO's storries go it's pretty good and it's a massive step up from what PA gave us before.

    • @Keldrath
      @Keldrath 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      That’s how you know he’s a true BDO player. Reading is against TOS.

    • @bluesquadronlive
      @bluesquadronlive  13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Don't you feel like a story is a lot about how you feed it to the player? Part of what makes a good story should encourage the player to want to pay attention. Too much text from NPCs you don't know anything about and aren't invested in and people disengage. That is what makes the story bad.

    • @kevintunaley5079
      @kevintunaley5079 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@bluesquadronlive I tried so hard not to smash R on mountain of eternal winter but found myself in a rush to get threw it. We have a small attention span now due to so much being thrown at us from all directions now.

    • @Levis_Manifesto
      @Levis_Manifesto 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@bluesquadronlive True but storytelling improved as well. In Kama storyline for example you didn't have cutscenes or voice acting at all. And you were learning about events and people that have already happened long time ago as a 3rd party so there was very little motivation for you as a player to care. The translation was pretty rough too, honestly.
      Jordine Saga has VO, cutscenes and gives old characters (like Al Rhundi) clear motivations and personality. So like I said it's already a big step up from what we had before.

    • @Levis_Manifesto
      @Levis_Manifesto 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@bluesquadronlive Oh and one more thing. You gave Vanilla-WotLK WoW storyteling as an example. Most of the storyteliing in that game was also walls of text, the cutscene that you've shown was the exception not the rule, a cherry on top for slaying Arthas. You're playing WoW right now tho, so you should know that.

  • @TheLilPorkChop
    @TheLilPorkChop 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

    Blondebear is right about the plot stuff. The dungeon questline lets us know her plan. Her contempt of gods and desire to use the weapons of Ataraxion to cause a new 3 Days of Darkness like she did in Mediah of the past. WE already know who she is and what she wants. Illezra is the final boss of Ataraxion. Caphras is in Edania and we will probably meet Hadum after fighting Jordine there (because Jordine became an avatar of Hadum in Mountain of Eternal Winter)

  • @GubrikGaming
    @GubrikGaming 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    00:14:53 The most spectacular thing about this scene, and something many people don’t realize, is that this story arc began in a real-time strategy game and ends in an MMORPG. One story, two different video game genres. The old, long-gone Blizzard was truly legendary.

  • @TheOfficialMyk
    @TheOfficialMyk 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    If they decided to have unskippable cutscenes for the main plot ppl would know more about the storyline, but also we would complain about being unskippable 😂😂. Maybe a force cutscenes for the first time and then just make them skippable

  • @Mr_Shabok
    @Mr_Shabok 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +11

    Post bald clarity

    • @NekoNeko88
      @NekoNeko88 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      yes

  • @Rukkingaround
    @Rukkingaround 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    The only positive thing we got for PVP since the ball is the lack of J's whiteboard

  • @DrSwazz
    @DrSwazz 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    “Having no damage reduction as deadeye”
    Deadeye users getting the maehwa treatment 😂

  • @ApolloOfTheSun7
    @ApolloOfTheSun7 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    I don't think Deadeye was forced. You have horses, you have flint lock pistols, you have sniper guns, there's robots and magic. How does this not make sense?

    • @theblackishboy1105
      @theblackishboy1105 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      I think they're mostly referring to the isekai stuff that was pretty forced and kinda stupid imo and i have been asking for a gunslinger for years.

  • @betlogboy3
    @betlogboy3 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    BDO's Lore is actually really good compared to other MMOs.. my entire first 2 weeks of the game was all focused on the story.

  • @nel6307
    @nel6307 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    1:37 The Calpheon Bald - BlueSquadron

  • @quintyss1290
    @quintyss1290 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Guild master burn-out and the subsequent death of a guild is the number one game killer, in my opinion, not a lack of PvP. People will stay if their guild is fun, active, and a healthy environment.

  • @disoriented9299
    @disoriented9299 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    Time Stamp 26:30

  • @Roxst1905
    @Roxst1905 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I never complaint about them giving free stuff for new player. I'm a veteran. Those who are ahead still are still ahead. New player catching up is good news for nodewar pvp guilds keep getting fresh players

  • @thequacken2659
    @thequacken2659 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Would be nice if you link the featured art in the video description.

  • @johnrussellamado4483
    @johnrussellamado4483 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Finally my favorite podcast back in the town.

  • @clayton-georgereid7280
    @clayton-georgereid7280 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Being honest didn't login for free stuff, friends didn't login for stuff. Guild members didn't login for anything

  • @Xanza
    @Xanza 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I get what Blond is trying to say about the lore but let me direct a question right to him; When we all get to the very last segment of lore for BDO do you think it's going to be enough to satisfy people that all of the lore is only tangentially connected? Is anyone really going to be happy with that?
    It's like reading a book for 10 years and finding it ends on a cliffhanger. It's such a ruined orgasm, its insane.

  • @AllelujaYourMother
    @AllelujaYourMother 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I love the Jinx Deadeye. Why didn't I think about it...

  • @theblackishboy1105
    @theblackishboy1105 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Im so hyped for the male gunslinger i hope he has a magic focus instead of just the guns, like a dosa gunslinger kinda that would be dope and i hope he's ascension too ik it's a but common now but it just feels fantastic

  • @picturemerollin6751
    @picturemerollin6751 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Illezra wanna destroy black spirit itself with the help of the ancients (knowladge, machines)so you can even call her hero of this world, what destroying black spirit in BDO means you can answer yourself.

  • @Seeeelhoom
    @Seeeelhoom 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Surprised to see people who are actually interested in this games lore.

  • @ken5040
    @ken5040 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I know no one really cares about console, but I will say we had a surge in the player base. RBF is somewhat full once or twice a day node wars are populated and so are sieges
    A couple months back Velia and such were ghost towns
    We do have a bunch of events going on most of which until April by then we should be getting our next GEN update so fingers crossed I think console bought itself another year
    Big disclaimer I highly doubt it would ever happen, but if there was ever a console and PC merger, we would actually have some of the most geared players, even though we are so far behind, which is crazy

  • @Robert-ms2xs
    @Robert-ms2xs 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    even the worst modern WoW dungeon is better than the current dungeons in BDO.

  • @PotKun
    @PotKun 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    I will say you cannot compare Kraven and Venom to other Marvel movies when they’re made by Sony and are not MCU.

    • @Daniel-nk3re
      @Daniel-nk3re 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      They're the same level of slop, so they're fair game.

  • @vxdroid32
    @vxdroid32 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I like blondes perspective, I still agree with blue that the story is complete dogshit, but I like hearing blondes points

  • @jameschester4242
    @jameschester4242 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    blue always dismisses because hes hot head hes not a bad person he just has a hot head and is not patient.... well derp him the only reason anyone watches him is because of the rage and doom culture that is it

  • @Haru777-rs5ru
    @Haru777-rs5ru 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    As a new player getting all these handouts is kind of lame, my biggest sense of progression is not playing and just getting things for free (by far). Getting power and other quality of life is the content. I don't think its a good way of going about things. If they want to close the gap between new players and vets. Just rework and make it easier to get high-end gear and horses. But now I just get these things for free and don't really learn anything and have very little connection or care to these things.

  • @deviantfamily2522
    @deviantfamily2522 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    So delusional to think that catchups will make new players get ahead. You still need to grind to stay on top, 10k crons is like a day of grinding, not game changing. I hit 760 in 4 months with loads of swiping and hours grinded. Thats not average timmy getting handed 10k crons and a T10. Wrong take. Without these handouts, endgame would be dry, no one would touch pvp at all, they flag up once and get oneshot by anyone causing them o feel demotivated. Catch ups are healthy, and they are not enough to compete with people putting in hours and still are ahead.

    • @TheOfficialMyk
      @TheOfficialMyk 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      True.
      Also take into account that casual players dont play the game 3-6 hours a day. If u work/study or have some sort of time constraint you wont be grinding and playing bdo for 6 hours a day. Getting to 760gs takes a lot of time if u dont swipe nor play like its a 9 to 5 job.

  • @AilzTheOne
    @AilzTheOne 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Thank, nice!

  • @TwiceNice
    @TwiceNice 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    These kinda of rewarding system only makes me login,prepare imperials, give them in and afk, once i hoard enough silver from imperial and rewards i tap some manos and as long as i have enough for tapping i am playing. once i am out, i just logout and wait for rewards.
    hoarding items and stuff, logging off for 1month to get free 15d value pack for removing ah tax and getting some space. its just not worth grinding, theres no end-game content that differs from out of season anyway.

  • @sealofapproval601
    @sealofapproval601 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    that shai literally has a J Face or am i seeing things?

  • @summertime8525
    @summertime8525 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    And the work was done all by jaykun again…

  • @Mad-marv
    @Mad-marv 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Bruh why is Blue talking so much? Quite a monologue on some topics and why is he interupting blonde so much? A bit more chill please

  • @TommyConlin
    @TommyConlin 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    1:17:00 bruh has never experienced zenless zone zero

  • @xxchillmindxx
    @xxchillmindxx 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    It's sad that people like to do everything easy and sleep on that. I would to if i was on PC. But anyways i guess everyone AFK in games now. But play a hour or two of gvg😅

  • @ken5040
    @ken5040 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Also to add coming from from soft games, all the dark souls when I first played BDO it was my first MMO and the biggest draw was the year thrown into the world. Go figure shit out, so there are plenty of people that enjoy that kind of storytelling.

  • @Otaguinho
    @Otaguinho 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    nah blue never read the dialogues of the game or watch the cutscenes

  • @karenfox5004
    @karenfox5004 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Why is it so hard for PA to let people to choose male or female for some classes with no alternative.

    • @theblackishboy1105
      @theblackishboy1105 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Animations are usually unique so it wouldn't work between classes, and if you make the animations different you may as well just make another class. I will say the ratio is garbage tho, they should at least make it 2:1 not freaking 3-4:1 it's stupid but the simps buy female outfits so we're screwed

    • @karenfox5004
      @karenfox5004 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@theblackishboy1105 so example. a male and female deadeye choices would have different animations? that basically what I was saying. some classes have alternative choices already.

    • @theblackishboy1105
      @theblackishboy1105 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @karenfox5004 yea but what im saying is for example ninja and kuno yes they are different but because they need separate animations it basically requires them to make 2 classes. If they did that with every class it would take significantly longer to add new classes because you are effectively adding 2 classes each time.
      Trust me i hate gender locks but i do understand why they didn't go that route, not to mention all the players are simps

  • @KoreanGeorge
    @KoreanGeorge 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    buff wizard

  • @Copperliquid
    @Copperliquid 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    still wondering why blue hates shai so much

  • @discoocelot9578
    @discoocelot9578 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Im a console player. Im logging in for the rewards. Then Ill uninstall until the nextgen upgrade. If it never arrives well, theres lots of other things to play

  • @NakatsuMegamiOfficial
    @NakatsuMegamiOfficial 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I am only looking at what has been actually dated by Wansu. Life Skills have not been updated in more than a half decade or more, PVP will come after Life Skill updates. One facet of the game does not hold BDO on it own, it is all Symbiotic, they all support each other, when any of one facet gets stagnant, it brings the game down, PVP has received many updates in the past 2 years, Life Skilling had zero in more than 3 years, it was years overdue.

  • @Rokoi518
    @Rokoi518 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Hey Blue! Any chance you'll be doing a tier list for PvE/PvP soon?

    • @bluesquadronlive
      @bluesquadronlive  13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Quendya makes some great PvE tier lists. As for PvP I would make them should they fix the PvP systems in the game

    • @Rokoi518
      @Rokoi518 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @ thanks for the reply. I’ll check his out then

  • @mateusz_dasal
    @mateusz_dasal 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    1:08:37 FFS Let the PA finally stop inventing idiotic new classes that no one needs, focus on balance and new, real content...

  • @seekkira
    @seekkira 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    sometimes i feel like "world" for Blue means = NA. No f's given EU did it in like a week or two, choice did it in a month wow...

    • @seekkira
      @seekkira 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      also that only content creators are to be counted for passing smth xd doesn't matter like 10 groups beat smth but if a content creator does it he's the first in the world lmao

  • @roflization1489
    @roflization1489 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    blue, Please dial down the way you take everything literally.

  • @seekkira
    @seekkira 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    ur mcdonalds ceo bro has no clue about pvp enjoyers pov no rly what a waste of oxygen this guy in the top

  • @louis-philippeturmel1479
    @louis-philippeturmel1479 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Blond is so out of touch, why are you even talking about current WoW if you know nothing about it? Modern dungeons are so far ahead of the old ones and even the worst modern dungeon is better than what BDO has. Hopefully the 4th is more interesting but you cannot make a point that this is not a weak point of the game & make up that these were the "good" days, have a minimum of awareness of your nostalgia.

    • @yourfavoritelawnguy2722
      @yourfavoritelawnguy2722 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      have yet to hear a valid take came from him

  • @Auridae
    @Auridae 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Unfortunately Blonde is absolutely in the wrong about the lore, they way they present it is boring, unengaging and uninspiring. There is close to no cohesiveness in the story being told and everything feels like ''well that just happened'' Like bro you cannot tell me these people are cooking a good story when they made Marni pull a cowgirl baddie from America.

  • @jeffd9658
    @jeffd9658 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ive just lost interest. Plan and simple.

  • @DeusBeelzebubGod
    @DeusBeelzebubGod 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Sure, there wasn't as much drama or any grand world ending events, but having that as every story is equally boring and brain dead. If you just 'r' to skip even the shortest of quests, there's not much point complaining about lore. It's fine to not care. It's fine to like other storytelling styles more. In my humble opinion.

  • @kaikage1573
    @kaikage1573 59 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    BDO’s Lore is great, Story is trash. It’s niche, almost like Elden Ring and old Monster Hunter. Only difference is they didn’t have a fully written story, BDO does.

  • @Abyssgamingrhos
    @Abyssgamingrhos 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Games 11 years old and doesn't give updates often. Not hard to figure out why its dying.

  • @xavieribarra5502
    @xavieribarra5502 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Yo stop putting your face looking dumb in the thumbnail XD, I know you got a better expression blue

  • @gloryplaysgames
    @gloryplaysgames 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Peaks in BDO player counts is returning players coming back for rewards, maybe play for a bit then they quit all over again. BDO doesn't respect your time, and it never has because of rng progression mechanics. Lost Ark only has a leg up because the group content is so fucking good but it suffers the same damn problem. Shit I just logged in after the ball and now have 3 pen blackstar and I've rarely logged in the last couple of years.
    FF and WoW at least have expansion you can go enjoy for awhile just like a new game release then you can leave and come back for the next expansion without feeling like you missed out.
    BDO would be way better if PVP was fixed, sure you get a lot of sweats back but the general public isn't gonna stick around

  • @k-jellrl
    @k-jellrl 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    6 seconds ago is diabolical

  • @yourfavoritelawnguy2722
    @yourfavoritelawnguy2722 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Unless they start handing out like 10k crons a week to us returning players or new players, we aren't catching up. I can barely clear 1.2b an hour grinding, so for just 1ap gain even at my only 300ap, its like 6 hours of grinding just to make sure i dont go down in GS. I made my own pen bs, then made it to a pen sov, i made my own t9 and they gave us a t9 and t10. I am thankful for the free t10 as it lets me travel this huge game alot faster. As a returning player, i dont see a lot of new people, i see people just like me who came back to see whats up and collect the free stuff. Even me at 301ap 370dp i dont really see what i am grinding towards anymore because there is nothing to look forward to, other than a different place to grind mobs at.
    I would love a place to fight people of similar gear over great loot
    Quests need to be family wide so that it can be ordered and followed without having to worry about which toon did what quest lines and jumping back and forth.

    • @on4ho
      @on4ho ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Grind for gear so you can do uncapped pvp or whatever you want to do.

  • @adiennika24
    @adiennika24 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wait pvp is dead. I been seeing guild decs. Fights over arsha. I seen openworld gvg I seen more vets returning to node wars.

  • @seekkira
    @seekkira 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Just disabled when i heard ALL Marvel movies were bad?... that's the level of host you got there
    I can't stand it lol 😅

  • @raptorRI0T
    @raptorRI0T 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    lol. People defending BDO lore really have never played a game with actual good lore. Stop defending bad writing. Only story that was remotely redeemable was mountain of eternal winter and that was still pretty meh. Loml was awful. And no amount of remastering of the old lore is gonna help the old lore. Until BDO puts some actual energy into good writers the lore will always be a messy pile of garbage.