She wants to be miserable. Nicole needs years of in depth exploration as to why she self sabotages because I guarantee this is not the first time she’s done something self destructive
I dated an Egyptian Muslim who moved to the U.S. for a bit, and even met his conservative family. They suggested that even if I wanted to convert to wait at least 5 years first so I really understood the religion and the expectations. They implied that converting without understanding would also be somewhat insulting to them and their faith. I wonder if the family in this show is put-off by how casually Nichole seems to be treating it.
yes, though really I think the one behaving most offensively to islam there is mahmoud for talking her into converting without understanding anything. he basically proposed a fake conversion.
Sorry but to be honest, I think Nicole is extremely naive. Why would anyone convert to ANY religion without knowing anything at all about it? I just think Nicole is really, really inexperienced and naive.
I totally agree with u!! I think she ONLY converted to impress her new husband/and his family....she is a very immature and naive woman who does things without thinking!! And that is SCARY!! She is not ready to be a wife/or his wife/a Muslim or a citizen of that country!! She is in a dream world and she seriously needs to return to reality!!
It’s bad enough when these American women (who don’t convert) get into relationships with middle eastern men and do no research on the culture and religion. How do you convert and know absolutely nothing about the religion?!?! I have no sympathy for her at all.
He’s never gonna find a hotter piece of A. She has nothing going on for her, no friends, no career, no other guys which makes her less likely to run away like the other Americans the show. He should do everything to keep her, it’s only a clothing issue.
Nicole is elegant and has a unique sense of style. She has major “Vogue” vibes. I hope she gets a job offer as a designer through exposure from the show
She has a fashion sense (wich is very rare) but being exposed this way, so vulnerable and probable having a very public mental breakdown/being in a relationship that is maybe abusive*, is probably ruining her chances to be taken seriously by professionnals... It's sad... * I think i've seen something about him being arrested for dv and in general he's just talking about himself, seeing things from his perspective and wanting to force it on her when he's not giving anything in return. And she seems very submissive and lost, she kinds of react like an abused person from time to time, coming back to him after he guilts trip her, etc
@@traceyarnaud8433 Mahmoud is a hypocrite. He said his faith requires them to dress modestly, but that if they lived in America it would be different. Oh, really? That's hypocritical. Because if modesty one's faith, then it applies everywhere one lives. Also, he required her to be completely covered to swim in the pool, but he took off his shirt. That was immodest of him to go half naked with other women around. How about the woman in the burka at the pool in the heat? I bet that was uncomfortable.
@@jenniferlloyd9574 The amount of hypocrisy on these shows from men who proclaim to be faithful Muslims is astonishing! From having sex before marriage to wanting a woman to cover herself completely while it's seemingly okay for a man to go shirtless in a public space...the list of cherry picking through the rules of Islam is endless. No wonder these folks look miserable and imprisoned with each other lol.
I think her idea of modest fashionable clothing is genius. I'm sure the demand outweighs the offer, as she said modest clothing is virtually impossible to find in America. I always thought Nicole's clothing style was unique, now I understand she made it all. She's a genius when it comes to clothing. That's 100% her future.
I think there almost certainly is a lot of that on offer in egypt and any other muslim-majority country. muslim women practically everywhere try to dress nice within whatever limitations there are. this is absolutely not a novel thing nicole invented.
@@hashbrown4me How is Nicole oppressed by any means? She converted to Islam by herself. She knew what se was signing for. And although I do not know much about the Quran or Islam, I've met plenty of Islam women who feel empowered by their religion and their clothing choices so I do not think Islam is oppressive in nature.
@@hashbrown4meislam is not oppressive in nature... its people who weaponize the religion to oppress women that is the problem. women can choose to wear face coverings, hair coverings, etc, depending on who you talk to. educate yourself before you start shitting on a religious system.
Problem is the uncle said he was not going to do the clothing. I don’t think many people caught it because he said it quickly and immediately went into the why isn’t she wearing a scarf. He isn’t going to help her the women in this family are expected to stay home period, oh and do whatever the men say.
Its not the religion thats the problem. Its the culture. Particularly HIS families culture. A lot of Egyptian muslims are very liberal even in their country. She just happened to choose a guy whose family is ultra conservative. Huge MISTAKE!!
It is the religion. One believes in Christianity and the other does not. One believes in the Lord Jesus Christ and one does not. Marry a Muslim, say good by to God and Gods Son
These men are respected on their ability to completly control their wife. The uncle gets the maximum because his wife is in a burka. His brothers wife wear a hijab so he gets some respect but not as much. So because she won't cover her head at alll he feels like he has no respect because he can't control her. It's all about control.
Why did Mahmoud marry a strong, independent woman if he just wanted a wife who stays at home and has no friends? Everyone is blaming her for being naïve, but he is just as bad.
Muhammad Married Aisha at 6. Sahih al-Bukhari 5134: "that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that `Aisha remained with the Prophet (ﷺ) for nine years (i.e. till his death)." Pedophilia was normalized in the middle east (even in Judaism and Christianity) whether you want to believe that or not.
@@justinaacuriouswanderer1496 seriously bro? Why are you quoting the wrong verse? As a matter of fact he never consumed her. She remained a virgin till death. Please check up the facts before spreading false information about Islam.
@@Top5-i6b5l read the Hadiths. He visited her when she was "too little" to "consume" and when he arrived and she was playing with other little girls, those little girls were sent out of that room and he spent time alone with her (the not ready yet young baby wife), then they/those who were there could testify (if a fact of the life of the Prophet is in the Hadiths, it means that it was testified by more than one person, perhaps 5 persons directly, so, because was testified it could be officially into the official biography of the Orofets, which are "Hadiths", Hadiths that can be considered like the Vangelo/biography of Christo from the Catholics and Christians... ) that he went out from that room with wet trousers.. So, it depends what is considered "consume" Then why to be left alone with the baby wife, and why that "wet"...
To be fair, Nicole always looks miserable and uncomfortable. Even when she was telling people she was going back to Egypt. She wasn't even particularly friendly delivering that pizza at the beginning. I just think she's a miserable person and nothing will ever make her happy and everything is everyone else's fault.
Ok that seems a bit harsh, everyone is looking for happiness, seems like the lady dont know her self jet. To me Nicole seems to be driven by her feelings and emotions. Maby this is the first time that her impulsivenes had a impact on other people. She needs to learn to commit to something or choose freedom and find like minded people. The problem with that is that she probably also want the family bonds and the security with that. Life will never be perfect
Tbh who is happy to be delivering food for a living? Seems like she romanticized the whole idea of moving to Egypt (i think she was manipulated by this dude too and that’s part of the fantasy she had), so she thought she could escape her life. Idk if she is impulsive, just wasn’t being realistic and wanted desperately to have an out for her life in LA. I dont see why she cant get a better job though that’s not in fashion since she doesn’t like working in that field. Seems like she doesn’t really believe she can have more but I understand as people get older i think they start believing they don’t have any options.
I wish she knew how beautiful she is, how polite she is, how well behaved she is, how soft spoken she is, how much patience she has, how much glamour she has, how much of a lady she is, she is like Royalty (Kate vibes). Its not often you see such people.
Mahmoud’s complete inability to understand Nicoles emotions or communicate with her is a good example of what happens when you segregate men and women. If a man grows up never even really meeting any unrelated women, let alone getting to know them, then it’s obvious that they’d struggle to empathise with them or even communicate properly. You can see how well he expresses himself to the camera man when alone, but as soon as Nicole’s so much as in the same room as him his brain just forgets how to function. To him women are a completely different species and, like a horse, you have to tame them, lead them & make sure not to spook them. It’s complete nonsense, but it’s what happens when you grow up that way.
Egypt almost doesn't have any segregation... the problem is with Mahmoud for bringing an American who doesn't know anything about Islam, forcing her to convert and changing her lifestyle to his liking without compromising
@@LeenKhalidJ what make you say that Egypt doesn’t have segregation? Most Egyptians practice a strict form of islam which always segregates the sex’s. Starting from puberty women aren’t allowed to socialise with men other than their own family members. If you have a look at any of the socialisation/entertainment type areas (other than tourist spots) such as cafes or events you’ll see the crowd is 99% male because women aren’t really suppose to leave the house to do anything other than shopping or tending to family/kids. It’s a great place to go if you’re a man, historical cultural landmarks everywhere you look & a wonderful street culture. If you’re a woman though then you’re not allowed to be apart of many of these events or go to some of these places. It’s also got extremely high levels of sexual assault and rape so leaving the house without your husband or a brother is often out of the question (depending on where you live).
@@LeenKhalidJ no I’m not Egyptian but doesn’t doesn’t mean that my point of view is based on stereotypes, that’s a false binary. I have researched various cultures, mainly Islamic cultures but also various native cultures as well. So unless you have some evidence/sources that contradict what I’m saying (and if you do I’m more than happy to stand corrected) or are in fact an Egyptian woman yourself then I’d suggest that you do some further research before arguing with a random stranger in the TH-cam comments.
Here's the thing. It's not Islam. It's not the Koran or the Islamic faith as a whole that's imposing these rules. I grew up in Dubai. I hated Islam when I was a kid, and then I grew up a bit and decided that instead of having what is essentially ignorant bigotry, I should actually read the Koran and try to understand the faith. Side note I'm an atheist and was raised an atheist, but I know there's more to the religion than the cultural status quos. The fact is, HE should've told her what was expected of her in HIS family's faith because the same rules don't always apply, and it doesn't mean you're not a true Muslim. The Muslim faith is like any other faith. In Christianity there are the Church of the East, Oriental Orthodoxy, Eastern Orthodoxy, Roman Catholicism, Protestantism, and Restorationism. They all have different "rules." Some are more strict than others. Then, outside those individuals and families practicing, there are different levels of strictness. Just because Nicole converted doesn't mean she could have POSSIBLY known what the rules in his family would be. It was HIS responsibility to make it clear to her. He KNEW she DIDN'T KNOW what she was getting into.
You made an insightful comment. As a person from Central Europe it's difficult for me to comprehend Islam. Christian analogy works well in this context. Now I better understand the core of their problems. Thanks.
👏👏👏 Whilst Nicole should have done her research, Mahmood is too immature to understand how to help his wife and is impatient and annoyed by her questions.
It literally says in the Kuran that women are not to be exposed. Islam is a misogynistic religion at heart. This is the real Islam, don't try and downplay how evil it is.
Actually what happens when you convert to any religion is that you suddenly get a download on all of the religious and cultural expectations you're supposed to follow. 😂
And there it is, if you don't convert I won't marry you. That should have told her to have a good think about what her needs are and if she is comfortable giving up her own faith for another. Before anyone dies that they should formally research that faiths book of faith in depth, read the Qur'an know what it entails first.
The fact that for him, it was more important to impose a headscarf in her, before teaching her how to pray, says loads about his character. It’s almost like he wants to be perceived by his society a certain way, and that messed his priorities up. Even those who are born into Islam are taught prayer first and then Hijab, the verse for Hijab came 10 years into the introduction of Islamic faith… I just think that had he been less concerned with his image and more into showing her the core values of this faith, she could’ve had a better chance accepting Hijab
The uncle is a hypocrite. Mahmoud cannot marry her if she doesn’t convert this isn’t allowed in the religion. So her covering her hair is the same thing. Yes it’s expected in the religion but only when she truly wants to do it not when he’s pestering her to do it. His uncle talks nonsense and no person has the authority to dictate rules and speak only god so she needs to refer to the Quran the holy book and before all that she should understand the religion before going on a whim to convert. It’s very clear that she has no understanding of religion and converted to please him which is wrong. He wants to control her and really is a hypocrite himself as religion is much more than that. He is just seeing her as a burden really and he comes from a certain background where the men in his family control their wives. She should honestly divorce and forget about all this. She is too naive and uneducated about this subject and country.
honest question, why is Nicole even there? I don’t watch the show, so all I know is recaps on youtube, but it genuinely doesn’t seem like Nicole ever wants to be there at all? Do they ever show clips of them enjoying their relationship?
I don't know why Nicole said that there isn't modest clothing in the US. Hasn't she been to Google were she can search many Muslim stores especially in Michigan, Pennsylvania and New York.
If she actually wants to learn how to dress Islamically, Shaeeda is not a good example. I know it seems she is from a western non-Muslim perspective, but the modesty dress code in Islam is very clear and she doesn’t adhere to it. Proper hijab isn’t just covering hair, it is fully covering the head, neck and chest, not wearing any clothing that shows any shape of the body or is too eye-catching and not wearing visible makeup in public or around men who aren’t your husband or direct blood relative. You also must not follow or mimic ‘fashion trends’ of non-Muslims, in order to set yourself apart.
@@pinkdiamonds9137 thanks for educating me! i didn’t realize that it was like that as a set rule, I thought it was only certain cultures of Islam! hopefully Nicole either makes it work, or leaves because she should respect the expectations of the religion she chose to join!
help her to be a bitch and hung out with men and find herself in 50 years in old bar drinking , stop that shit , islam give value to the woman , what the value they give you there ? making you naked and have sex with your boss and fuck , wake up and stop lying to yourself
Those rules you're describing are already a very conservative interpretation of the religious texts, wich means that there's a lot of other ways to practice/define it. It's just very absurde tbh, just look at the local folklore and traditonnal clothing for women in muslim countries you'll see that it's way less restrictive than this in most cases. So were they all "not modest enough" and "traditonnally" not abiding by their religion ? No. It's just that it was interpreted in a l'ESS conservative way ironically.
Nicole is stunning. She could be a Hollywood actress. Her voice is so cute and feminine.Her frame is so wonderfully slim and fragile. I wonder how their love life is together like she probably took his virginity. And why they never had kids?
I'm not defending their behavior, but as far as I see they would have accepted her decision to not wear a veil, if she had remained a Christian (because in her religion she doesn't have to). Unfortunately she chose to convert to Islam, which changed the whole situation, because now she is expected to wear one (as she has to follow the rules of her new religion).
Exactly. Is it a choice, or is it compulsory? We can't have it both ways. Even in the case that she converted, her actions to her own body are between her and god.
@@summeretry251 You're right, her actions to her own body are between her and God and the family of Mahmoud shouldn't pressure her into wearing the veil. They're conservatives, which makes it again harder for Nicole. You acne argue whether wearing a veil is compulsory or not, many scholars debate on this issue. And from region to it can be very different. Many Muslim women don't wear the veil and still practice there religion. The issue with Nicole and Mahmoud is that they didn't educate Nicole and that she still does not educate herself about her "new religion".
@@adaroez was she even a Christian? Just because she's an American doesn't mean that she's a Christian. True Christians don't usually convert to Islam, although Muslims convert to Christianity after they learn about it.
this shows the parents that she doesn't care about religion at all , may it be christianity or islam , or else she wouldn't have left the first so hastily nor converted to the latter impulsively . didn't she say in the show that she was still "finding herself" or something ? she puts herself into that mess. conversion to islam ( or christianity) is not an obligation to marriage unless one of the spouses put it as a condition . my best friend's parents are french ( the mom) and morrocan ( the dad) , they've been married for more than 40 years , the mom never converted to Islam , she still goes to church today , my friend is atheist , only the dad and his two little sisters are muslim , many many couples are like this "bireligious" . convesrion is always a choice regardless of the religion , it's just that in some conservative religious circles , people put that condition themselves, which is their right ( example , muslim man will only marry a muslim woman or a woman who converts to islam , he's not forcing the woman , just saying, "this is my standard" . you also have parents who refuse their children marry non muslim , it's on the parents themselves. as a roman catholic, i don't know what the future holds for me but if a fall in love with a muslim man to the point of accepting to marry him , i will however not part from my catholic faith . that would be my condition ( because you can't control who your heart falls in love with )
Why are y'all attacking Mahmoud?? when the truth is, she voluntarily converted to islam without doing her research?! she could've run away as early as possible, what are y'all thinking?? trash opinions.
As a muslim,tjough from a more lenient Pakistani family,tbis familys strictness and the atmosphere makes me uncomfortable .Nicole can't adjust,and why would she want too.ugh
Nicole is 38 years old. Maybe she has a style, but she is extremely naive and doesn’t want to do anything to improve her life and marriage. Being married for 4 years,she didn’t bother to learn a language , traditions ,religion. Of course she is not happy….She was home all day( in one room) .We didn’t see her to do any housework as well . I think she had a lot of possibilities for improvement,but she didn’t use them. I came to foreign country without language,went to school. It wasn’t easy at all..at 36…After one year went to college…start to work. When you have family to feed , it’s not much room left for endless discussion about modesty clothes…
I think it was something like: -they wanted to fuck -he said only after marriage -he said marriage only after conversion -so they fast-tracked conversion and marriage to fuck
Why is Nicole using Mahmoody? You know why... Ask Liz + Darcey what the TLC cameras, fame, clout and money have done to their lives. Nicole won't have to deliver Poppa John's 🍕 or drink canned wine again.
They do know that a relationship shouldn't be this hard from the beginning, right ?? Like they know this would be a constant state and they won't just " get through a rough patch "
She self sabotaged , if she didn’t convert there would be 0 problems I agree!!! She could’ve stayed trued to her own beliefs and continued to have a relationship with him. With probably a lot less problems.
Nicole should have researched the culture, but Mahmoud keeps setting her up to fail. He is at least as blameworthy for all the problems, and some think he is trying to self destruct the relationship so he can be with someone else. The “Mary & Ama” channel did an insightful commentary about this from a Muslim perspective.
Nicole is from a country that supports her autonomy and her pursuit of life liberty and happiness. Women in Egypt do not have that benefit. She does not understand the difference between an America woman and a muslin Egyptian woman. She needs to run for her life. Pray for women who do not have the autonomy we are guaranteed at birth. BTW Islam is one of the most beautiful religions in the world. 🙏 I do love it and keep it separate from the abuse that religion often pairs w...
It is ultimately on Nicole that she converted to a religion she knew nothing about. But this is why if you convert to Catholicism as an adult you'll be in classes and participating in various milestones with a Godparent to walk you through any questions for at least a year before you can be baptized and confirmed. You absolutely know what you're getting into if you convert to Catholicism.
I've spent a good portion of my life studying Islam, and the last 10 years, trying to understand the relation between culture and their spiritual path. A lot of people manipulate religions to make them believe that everything is compulsory, and when the entire foundation of the faith is your free will to choose, do you follow this path, do you not follow this path, if people force people to do something in a religion, they're not coming of their own volition, they're afraid. It doesn't matter if it's true or not to somebody like me, they believe or from what is written in their own scripture, their God knows. He knows the deepest part of their heart. For something like the hijab, it is a very personal choice to make, especially for somebody that did not grow up in a society where hijab was in normal way of dressing. I appreciate that these Muslims in this video, the ones in his family, are curious but kind, I mean we can look at this historically, it's never mentioned in the Quran, it was the style at the time to wear a hair covering. It is customary in a lot of countries, and my ancestors ranged from Catholic to polytheistic, and I remember hair coverings throughout history. Women war headcoverings, and it wasn't about oppression, it was about style. And of course there would be times when it would just be a pain in the butt depending on the kind of style, there would be times when women wore no head covering. But generally speaking it kept the hair from blowing into their faces. But it was not necessarily about modesty, and the prophet had to ask his wives to please wear a covering, because he was a center of a lot of attention, and as societies do, they would gossip and they would wonder about the wives of the prophet. I mean they were human beings, this didn't happen in some spiritual bubble with nothing but Islamic vibes, this was a change in culture, a change in future traditions, it is an important time in history, you don't have to be Muslim to research this. The prophet did say that men and women should be modest, they should cover themselves, but this was because people were looking towards the wives and wondering, and I guess people didn't want men looking at their wives and wondering anything, thinking about anything, she's a blank slate, she's covered up, she has no individuality, she's a tool, she's a vessel, but the prophet loved his wives on some level, even if it wasn't romantic, it was more of a guardianship anyways, but he cared for these women, or at least most of them. It's a conundrum to hear Muslims today talk about everything they want to do to oppress a woman, and so when families like this come about, it's not about oppression, this is what being a Muslim means to them, so a lot of things change, subtle changes, feelings, or is, it can look the same to the outside but once you're inside of it, there's all these complexities of life that we have them all around us as well. To somebody like me, it would feel like oppression, even though it was never meant to be that. Becoming a part of this faith, this is what they believe, if you don't believe it, if your ideas about the kind of person you are and this religion is standing over here and they want you to step into the box of that religion, and you're like whoa, I can't step all the way in, then you're not following their faith. And yeah we're all about freedom of thought and freedom of religion and freedom of so many things that we feel entitled to have and we take that entitlement all over the world, for those that live in a democracy, I'm not just talking about my own country, there's so many other countries where religion is not a force, but if you go to a culture and it's one thing if you can't fit into their culture but if you can't fit into their religion and they're very religious, it's two different levels. This is what he believes, and is it way over the top to somebody like me, absolutely, but it is his life, his breath, his belief, and very few people are like this. I may not agree with the faith, I may be just completely utterly different but I absolutely appreciate their devotion to what they believe. Are they absolutely perfect? I don't even know what that is. I think of the families I know around me, and what makes them them and I see the same elements, but I really appreciate just the authentic devotion to their life. I understand this woman, and I don't think badly of her, I see her for what she is, she's flaky, she's a little damaged, I think she has a really good heart, but she's just a little bit of a space cadet, and she's good with that, like it's quirky and fun and sweet, and it seems like she thinks a whole lot, but she's not understanding the deepness of the kind of connection you need when you marry somebody. And granted, people do what they do, but to marry into a different culture, a different lifestyle, a different religion, these people believe this with all of their souls, even if it's more tradition than spirituality, this is the normality and it's a good normal for that culture. I hate that so many people out there give these kind of people such a bad name, I'm sure the same is what we reflect outward as a country too. I think of what our normal looks like and it's brighter to me, it's more free, but it's possibly more dangerous, we're getting bigger, we're expanding our enlightenment, but there's a price to that, as much as we see violence in these other countries, they seem to start to signify everything everywhere, and I wonder if we look like that to them. The negative stereotypes of what the world sees any country like, from the outside looking in. I don't even know what normal is anymore in this country, but I know what I want the world to be like, and my path in life is dedicated. I want the world to be a kinder place, a more understanding place, I can't tell the difference between seeing somebody's ego and seeing their hatred or their racism, xenophobia, on and on and on and if I didn't say any of the missing wars, I feel bad because there's just too many to list all of them. These shows, these people, most of the time, it's like watching a train wreck, I like seeing the other cultures, I see parts that I didn't know existed, and then we get to know people and for whatever it is, when we get to understand a part of somebody else's culture. And I don't know how many shows are like this out here, but it always feels like an American train wreck to me. I don't know if they represent my country anymore, it makes me sad, and embarrassed, and it's not about the people, and it's not about the country, it's all around that you hope that if this is what represents us, and if it doesn't horrify you on some level, just I'm not talking about all of them being just the worst, it's just normal, I want normal, I want to see what normal people are doing. I can't imagine doing the things that these people do, the lack of thought, the lack of understanding that you're not the main character, and that's what it feels like America has right now. That whole main character syndrome. Every alien movie, like seriously, every once in awhile we get like a sidekick or something, somebody else gets to star with us, but we are going to be the bigger star. Unless it's a true story, true stories have everybody, I don't know what our true stories are right now. I don't know if he's a real example of like what is normal nowadays for their society, religion if it's a huge deal to you, and you meet a woman who obviously has no clue, and she wants to convert, shouldn't it be your responsibility to make sure she knows what she's getting herself into, because if you're not educating her, about what it is, and you love her, you're going to want her to know everything there is to know about this one thing that you're going to share together, neither of them seem to think very deeply about each other, so maybe they both are normal for some people, but it's not funny to me It's sad, he should have thought about all of this and talked about it, people can fall in love, I just wish they'd be a little smarter about how to go about it. Like what does love actually mean to anyone? I don't know why people either can't feel it or share it, but I don't know what relationships are even supposed to mean anymore when I see stuff like this. I don't enjoy watching this, but it's like a person on person train wreck.
I don’t see how both of them thought this would work. She did not research at all. Why would you keep moving back to a place you’re not happy? From being isolated being around his family and she’s an introvert, to hating the way of life, what will be her last straw to realize this will never work?
There're type of Muslim conservatives One is extreme Another is moderate Third is liberal The problem is not her conversion but choosing her and the family
Honestly, I don't feel bad for Nicole....I think she totally jumped into this marriage, just to be married!! And she knew what that country was like and the strictness of things there isf woman, before she even got married to him!! She doesn't even know a single word in their language!! The smart and mature thing for her to have done would have been looking up the religion as well as the duties of housewife over there (*since it is WAY different then in the states...) And she knew besides the strictness there, that they would be living with his family for a while due to the last time they had an apt together and she totally ran off and left him and the country!! So Nicole basically does things without thinking, and truthfully, that is dangerous!! But I can guarantee:**THIS MARRIAGE MOST DEFINITELY WILL NOT LAST!!
It would be best for them both to make a clean break, get divorced, and move on without each other. Nicole will likely never fully adjust to what is expected of her and Mahmoud will always be frustrated and annoyed by her mood swings and American way of thinking. I don't know what the appeal for either of them was, but they need to just end things before children come into the picture making it a hundred times worse.
Watching these videos has helped me to understand EVERYTHING I did wrong in my relationship with my Moroccan husband, I see myself in Nicole and my ex husband in Mahmoud. I have shown him a video of these two and apologised for everything I did which he felt was Disrespectful. We are dating again and I will do better and try harder to be the wife he wanted me to be in the beginning.
I’ve been to living in saudi arabia for more than 10 years… what i know is that non Muslim female marrying a muslim male, they are allowed to get married even if the woman did not convert… I was just surprised why nicole converted to Islam before the marriage… converting to islam shouldn’t be obligatory. Mahmoud should have explained it to her before they got married, because they could get married in a civil wedding than get married in muslim rights….
People need to actually stop and think before they get involved with certain people. Yes you can be inlove and find eachother attractive, blah blah, but culture and religion really does run a person's life at the end of the day. If you can't see yourself adopting their religion or culture, then don't date them.
She didn't ask what it is to be Muslim. She converted to be married. It was his responsibility to guide her to Islam the right way. Nichole knows the expectations, but is arrogant and entitled so she thinks she can changed the requirements. And acts like she doesn't know what she agreed to.
GOOD LORD she drives me crazy (sorry Nicole)…She’s CREATING problems…not only does she expect Egyptians to be American around her, but she CONVERTED CASUALLY, then complains & cries about HOW UNFAIR Islamic law is!!!! She did that to HERSELF
Sorry but you can’t force anything in Islam. He married her. Made his choice. She is an individual and maybe they need to live away from family. Give their relationship time to BREATHE. But if she is unhappy, she can move on. Life is as simple as that. Belief develops over time but it will never happen in this pressure cooker!
Ugh! The accent is grating... Not a native English speaker but I can't take various UK English accents along w/Aussies & Kiwis. Brit English is like torture to my ears😢
*have I doubt it, his family probably would have been upset. I think there are islamic texts or interpretations thereof allowing intermarriage of muslims and believers of other abrahamic faiths, but that's certainly unpopular in most muslim-dominated cultures.
@@Ass_of_Amalek Muslim men are allowed to marry non Muslims but Muslim women are not. Because men are the head of household and the children will be whatever the father is.
Very good point, you get it very well, the only woman this kind of guys respect is their mom, others are tools like this Nicole, she is a trophee object for him, a blonde that he will exhibit because of his own complex and at the same time she had to follow his servitude agenda to please to neighborhood and his society, to proof he is a man who is in charge, controlling, this kind of men do not consider a woman as such but she should obey him, because he is educated that he is superior a spouse role is to obey and please her husband, never contradict him and in public shut up and follow him like a nice and docile horse as you said.Very good analysis, as a muslim girl I can confirm this segregation because it is what every patriarcal system is promoting and yes, they are afraid of women who had opinion or spoke loudly their mind.
It reminds me of when Sinead O'Connor converted to the Bedouin religion, only to learn that drinking is forbidden! Also, the backward Egyptian should have tried to educate her on the restrictions of the desert-religion before letting the impulsive 40-somerhing take the plunge!
Okay but despite this having nothing to do with any of it, can I just say how pretty she looks with the hijab on? Aw! Anyway, yee she naive AF and he, being so rigid, should have stuck to a girl of his own culture. Though he probably couldn't afford to marry an Egyptian girl.
I gone at to disagree about the not showing up after being late part. Rude? Yes. Just call and explain that you had a fight to your family. Family should want the best for you. And if you are having a couples quarrel your family should okay I understand take your time. No sense in driving in that sort of mood and putting yourself and other drivers on the road at risk (if you are driving) and no sense showing up with anger
It's not going to work! Quit making each other miserable!
That Part
Right!
Exactly! She lives in a muslim country. How would she ever have a life other than her husband his mother. It's a failure from the beginning.
She's doing it for the money.
She wants to be miserable. Nicole needs years of in depth exploration as to why she self sabotages because I guarantee this is not the first time she’s done something self destructive
I dated an Egyptian Muslim who moved to the U.S. for a bit, and even met his conservative family. They suggested that even if I wanted to convert to wait at least 5 years first so I really understood the religion and the expectations. They implied that converting without understanding would also be somewhat insulting to them and their faith. I wonder if the family in this show is put-off by how casually Nichole seems to be treating it.
yes, though really I think the one behaving most offensively to islam there is mahmoud for talking her into converting without understanding anything. he basically proposed a fake conversion.
@@Ass_of_Amalek Good point.
This was great advice on their part. This guy has really high expectations from her. It’s not realistic
Of course it's insulting to wear someone religion like it's a style. It's demeaning to the religion when you don't take it serious.
I actually admire that they were transparent with you and at least explained.
Sorry but to be honest, I think Nicole is extremely naive. Why would anyone convert to ANY religion without knowing anything at all about it? I just think Nicole is really, really inexperienced and naive.
I couldn’t agree more! So naive 😩
I imagine to her it may have been a religion like she was perhaps used to in her own experience which may have been more casual
@@hpoplick1 With respect, I don't believe ANY Westerners consider the Muslim faith "casual".
I totally agree with u!! I think she ONLY converted to impress her new husband/and his family....she is a very immature and naive woman who does things without thinking!! And that is SCARY!! She is not ready to be a wife/or his wife/a Muslim or a citizen of that country!! She is in a dream world and she seriously needs to return to reality!!
probably the most airheaded individual ever seen on one of these shows... well, the fat nicole also is a strong contender.
Does... does Nicole not have access to Google?
Right!!!!!! My goodness!
It’s bad enough when these American women (who don’t convert) get into relationships with middle eastern men and do no research on the culture and religion. How do you convert and know absolutely nothing about the religion?!?! I have no sympathy for her at all.
Apparently not🤦♀️
😂😅😂😅
💯 She is acting like a child with no responsibilities. She can even go to TH-cam and just watch videos so she doesn’t have to read. 🤦♀️
He wants to change her and she wants to change him. It just won’t work.
Exactly !!
He’s never gonna find a hotter piece of A. She has nothing going on for her, no friends, no career, no other guys which makes her less likely to run away like the other Americans the show. He should do everything to keep her, it’s only a clothing issue.
Nicole is elegant and has a unique sense of style. She has major “Vogue” vibes. I hope she gets a job offer as a designer through exposure from the show
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
She has a fashion sense (wich is very rare) but being exposed this way, so vulnerable and probable having a very public mental breakdown/being in a relationship that is maybe abusive*, is probably ruining her chances to be taken seriously by professionnals... It's sad...
* I think i've seen something about him being arrested for dv and in general he's just talking about himself, seeing things from his perspective and wanting to force it on her when he's not giving anything in return. And she seems very submissive and lost, she kinds of react like an abused person from time to time, coming back to him after he guilts trip her, etc
sometimes I feel bad for Nicole but she’s stupid to “convert” without knowing anything
Not Stoopid
She's gotta be on the spectrum
She is stupid. Period.
Especially at 38
I truly, truly believe she is autistic...
I agree. If she'd known anything about Islam, she wouldn't have converted.
Why does Nicole remind me of an old timey archeologist from a movie?! She looks like she's on the hunt for the lost tomb.
Perils of Pauline?
Or she just crawled out of a crypt and is looking around confused
@@traceyarnaud8433 🤣🤣🤣
@@traceyarnaud8433 Mahmoud is a hypocrite. He said his faith requires them to dress modestly, but that if they lived in America it would be different. Oh, really? That's hypocritical. Because if modesty one's faith, then it applies everywhere one lives. Also, he required her to be completely covered to swim in the pool, but he took off his shirt. That was immodest of him to go half naked with other women around. How about the woman in the burka at the pool in the heat? I bet that was uncomfortable.
@@jenniferlloyd9574 The amount of hypocrisy on these shows from men who proclaim to be faithful Muslims is astonishing! From having sex before marriage to wanting a woman to cover herself completely while it's seemingly okay for a man to go shirtless in a public space...the list of cherry picking through the rules of Islam is endless. No wonder these folks look miserable and imprisoned with each other lol.
I think her idea of modest fashionable clothing is genius. I'm sure the demand outweighs the offer, as she said modest clothing is virtually impossible to find in America. I always thought Nicole's clothing style was unique, now I understand she made it all. She's a genius when it comes to clothing. That's 100% her future.
So true !! Sh's really a genius when it comes to clothing !!
I think there almost certainly is a lot of that on offer in egypt and any other muslim-majority country. muslim women practically everywhere try to dress nice within whatever limitations there are. this is absolutely not a novel thing nicole invented.
@@hashbrown4me How is Nicole oppressed by any means? She converted to Islam by herself. She knew what se was signing for.
And although I do not know much about the Quran or Islam, I've met plenty of Islam women who feel empowered by their religion and their clothing choices so I do not think Islam is oppressive in nature.
@@hashbrown4meislam is not oppressive in nature... its people who weaponize the religion to oppress women that is the problem. women can choose to wear face coverings, hair coverings, etc, depending on who you talk to. educate yourself before you start shitting on a religious system.
Problem is the uncle said he was not going to do the clothing. I don’t think many people caught it because he said it quickly and immediately went into the why isn’t she wearing a scarf.
He isn’t going to help her the women in this family are expected to stay home period, oh and do whatever the men say.
Nicole caused this nightmare on herself by converting.The uncle is correct and Nicole needs to figure this out now.
It’s almost like Nicole was born yesterday….LITERALLY . She always look like she’s just lost or woke up in a different reality
😂😂😂 good one. I see it
I think she is doing this for camera….
Its not the religion thats the problem.
Its the culture.
Particularly HIS families culture.
A lot of Egyptian muslims are very liberal even in their country.
She just happened to choose a guy whose family is ultra conservative.
Huge MISTAKE!!
Yes he is simply very conservative, while many people in Egypt are not. Nicole is so crazy. I guess she grew up without ever hearing no
It's not even a problem. They have the right to be conservative. Her entitled behind 🙄🙄
religion is problematic. In my religion drz no gender base rules
It is the religion.
One believes in Christianity and the other does not.
One believes in the Lord Jesus Christ and one does not.
Marry a Muslim, say good by to God and Gods Son
A lot of Egyptian Muslims are very liberal even in their own country? Define "a lot."
These men are respected on their ability to completly control their wife. The uncle gets the maximum because his wife is in a burka. His brothers wife wear a hijab so he gets some respect but not as much.
So because she won't cover her head at alll he feels like he has no respect because he can't control her. It's all about control.
Women are expected to be unseen/invisible "ghosts in a sack" > this is not in the Quran but instead part of their rigidly patriarchal society!
Why did Mahmoud marry a strong, independent woman if he just wanted a wife who stays at home and has no friends? Everyone is blaming her for being naïve, but he is just as bad.
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Muhammad Married Aisha at 6.
Sahih al-Bukhari 5134: "that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that `Aisha remained with the Prophet (ﷺ) for nine years (i.e. till his death)."
Pedophilia was normalized in the middle east (even in Judaism and Christianity) whether you want to believe that or not.
I don’t understand his motives or the motives of other men like him. This is definitely not love.
@@justinaacuriouswanderer1496 seriously bro? Why are you quoting the wrong verse? As a matter of fact he never consumed her. She remained a virgin till death. Please check up the facts before spreading false information about Islam.
@@Top5-i6b5l read the Hadiths.
He visited her when she was "too little" to "consume" and when he arrived and she was playing with other little girls, those little girls were sent out of that room and he spent time alone with her (the not ready yet young baby wife), then they/those who were there could testify (if a fact of the life of the Prophet is in the Hadiths, it means that it was testified by more than one person, perhaps 5 persons directly, so, because was testified it could be officially into the official biography of the Orofets, which are "Hadiths", Hadiths that can be considered like the Vangelo/biography of Christo from the Catholics and Christians... ) that he went out from that room with wet trousers..
So, it depends what is considered "consume"
Then why to be left alone with the baby wife, and why that "wet"...
To be fair, Nicole always looks miserable and uncomfortable. Even when she was telling people she was going back to Egypt. She wasn't even particularly friendly delivering that pizza at the beginning. I just think she's a miserable person and nothing will ever make her happy and everything is everyone else's fault.
She reminds me of Deavan.
Ok that seems a bit harsh, everyone is looking for happiness, seems like the lady dont know her self jet. To me Nicole seems to be driven by her feelings and emotions. Maby this is the first time that her impulsivenes had a impact on other people. She needs to learn to commit to something or choose freedom and find like minded people. The problem with that is that she probably also want the family bonds and the security with that. Life will never be perfect
Maybe there was pineapple on the pizza
Lauren, I agree
Looks like she is the one who has an issue and pins it on someone
Tbh who is happy to be delivering food for a living? Seems like she romanticized the whole idea of moving to Egypt (i think she was manipulated by this dude too and that’s part of the fantasy she had), so she thought she could escape her life. Idk if she is impulsive, just wasn’t being realistic and wanted desperately to have an out for her life in LA. I dont see why she cant get a better job though that’s not in fashion since she doesn’t like working in that field. Seems like she doesn’t really believe she can have more but I understand as people get older i think they start believing they don’t have any options.
I wish she knew how beautiful she is, how polite she is, how well behaved she is, how soft spoken she is, how much patience she has, how much glamour she has, how much of a lady she is, she is like Royalty (Kate vibes). Its not often you see such people.
People who deliberately comes late to appointments is horrible
He’s not sorry ……. He gets angry that he can’t control her …
How about unconvert and divorce
Mahmoud’s complete inability to understand Nicoles emotions or communicate with her is a good example of what happens when you segregate men and women.
If a man grows up never even really meeting any unrelated women, let alone getting to know them, then it’s obvious that they’d struggle to empathise with them or even communicate properly.
You can see how well he expresses himself to the camera man when alone, but as soon as Nicole’s so much as in the same room as him his brain just forgets how to function. To him women are a completely different species and, like a horse, you have to tame them, lead them & make sure not to spook them. It’s complete nonsense, but it’s what happens when you grow up that way.
This!! 👏🏽
Egypt almost doesn't have any segregation... the problem is with Mahmoud for bringing an American who doesn't know anything about Islam, forcing her to convert and changing her lifestyle to his liking without compromising
@@LeenKhalidJ what make you say that Egypt doesn’t have segregation? Most Egyptians practice a strict form of islam which always segregates the sex’s. Starting from puberty women aren’t allowed to socialise with men other than their own family members.
If you have a look at any of the socialisation/entertainment type areas (other than tourist spots) such as cafes or events you’ll see the crowd is 99% male because women aren’t really suppose to leave the house to do anything other than shopping or tending to family/kids.
It’s a great place to go if you’re a man, historical cultural landmarks everywhere you look & a wonderful street culture. If you’re a woman though then you’re not allowed to be apart of many of these events or go to some of these places. It’s also got extremely high levels of sexual assault and rape so leaving the house without your husband or a brother is often out of the question (depending on where you live).
Are you an Egyptian? Or is that a stereotypical point of view that you have
@@LeenKhalidJ no I’m not Egyptian but doesn’t doesn’t mean that my point of view is based on stereotypes, that’s a false binary. I have researched various cultures, mainly Islamic cultures but also various native cultures as well. So unless you have some evidence/sources that contradict what I’m saying (and if you do I’m more than happy to stand corrected) or are in fact an Egyptian woman yourself then I’d suggest that you do some further research before arguing with a random stranger in the TH-cam comments.
Here's the thing. It's not Islam. It's not the Koran or the Islamic faith as a whole that's imposing these rules. I grew up in Dubai. I hated Islam when I was a kid, and then I grew up a bit and decided that instead of having what is essentially ignorant bigotry, I should actually read the Koran and try to understand the faith. Side note I'm an atheist and was raised an atheist, but I know there's more to the religion than the cultural status quos. The fact is, HE should've told her what was expected of her in HIS family's faith because the same rules don't always apply, and it doesn't mean you're not a true Muslim. The Muslim faith is like any other faith. In Christianity there are the Church of the East, Oriental Orthodoxy, Eastern Orthodoxy, Roman Catholicism, Protestantism, and Restorationism. They all have different "rules." Some are more strict than others. Then, outside those individuals and families practicing, there are different levels of strictness. Just because Nicole converted doesn't mean she could have POSSIBLY known what the rules in his family would be. It was HIS responsibility to make it clear to her. He KNEW she DIDN'T KNOW what she was getting into.
You made an insightful comment. As a person from Central Europe it's difficult for me to comprehend Islam. Christian analogy works well in this context. Now I better understand the core of their problems. Thanks.
👏👏👏 Whilst Nicole should have done her research, Mahmood is too immature to understand how to help his wife and is impatient and annoyed by her questions.
It literally says in the Kuran that women are not to be exposed. Islam is a misogynistic religion at heart. This is the real Islam, don't try and downplay how evil it is.
Actually what happens when you convert to any religion is that you suddenly get a download on all of the religious and cultural expectations you're supposed to follow. 😂
But she did know.. He told her she was expected to dress a certain way, that was in a clip as well.
Just a correction, Mahmoud told her he wouldn’t marry her if she didn’t convert, which is the first red flag.
And there it is, if you don't convert I won't marry you.
That should have told her to have a good think about what her needs are and if she is comfortable giving up her own faith for another.
Before anyone dies that they should formally research that faiths book of faith in depth, read the Qur'an know what it entails first.
That hair style doesn't do her any justice
ahe's a barbie girl in an arab world
I like it, it fits her.
Louise Brooks?
Right?! She looks amazing especially for being 38 but that hair style is giving coconut.
@@christinewatson1989 looool, coconut.
The fact that for him, it was more important to impose a headscarf in her, before teaching her how to pray, says loads about his character. It’s almost like he wants to be perceived by his society a certain way, and that messed his priorities up. Even those who are born into Islam are taught prayer first and then Hijab, the verse for Hijab came 10 years into the introduction of Islamic faith… I just think that had he been less concerned with his image and more into showing her the core values of this faith, she could’ve had a better chance accepting Hijab
The uncle is a hypocrite. Mahmoud cannot marry her if she doesn’t convert this isn’t allowed in the religion. So her covering her hair is the same thing. Yes it’s expected in the religion but only when she truly wants to do it not when he’s pestering her to do it. His uncle talks nonsense and no person has the authority to dictate rules and speak only god so she needs to refer to the Quran the holy book and before all that she should understand the religion before going on a whim to convert. It’s very clear that she has no understanding of religion and converted to please him which is wrong. He wants to control her and really is a hypocrite himself as religion is much more than that. He is just seeing her as a burden really and he comes from a certain background where the men in his family control their wives. She should honestly divorce and forget about all this. She is too naive and uneducated about this subject and country.
nicole is one of the few prettiest girls on this show yet
Nobody should give up his/her identity...Big mistake Nicole!!!!!!!!
honest question, why is Nicole even there? I don’t watch the show, so all I know is recaps on youtube, but it genuinely doesn’t seem like Nicole ever wants to be there at all? Do they ever show clips of them enjoying their relationship?
I don't know why Nicole said that there isn't modest clothing in the US. Hasn't she been to Google were she can search many Muslim stores especially in Michigan, Pennsylvania and New York.
“Mah-mood” 😂😂😂😂
Thats the correct way of pronouncing it
I just find it to hard to believe if you were going to live in a culture you wouldn't study it and find out all the necessary requirements.
Unfortunately, a burqa is not as conservative as it gets. Not having a woman be filmed would be as conservative as it gets.
She's lucky he didn't enforce Islamic right of husbands to restrict her from leaving Egypt.
This is the perfect couple: a sadistic with a masochistic. 😂😂😂
STOP TRYING TO MARRY THESE ARAB AND INDIANS WESTERN WOMEN!! WE ARE NOT COMPATIBLE AND THEY JUST WANT TO GET A GREEN CARD. SMH!!!
38? 38??? I thought this chick was literally like 22🤣🤣 dear lord.
His aunt is wearing a Niqab. Not a Burka.
Edit: if she was wearing a Burka you wouldn’t be able to see her eyes.
Both shi look like freaking penguine.
nicole should meet shaeeda from the last season. she is beautiful & so so stylish. maybe shaeeda could help her.
Crazy talking to crazy
If she actually wants to learn how to dress Islamically, Shaeeda is not a good example. I know it seems she is from a western non-Muslim perspective, but the modesty dress code in Islam is very clear and she doesn’t adhere to it. Proper hijab isn’t just covering hair, it is fully covering the head, neck and chest, not wearing any clothing that shows any shape of the body or is too eye-catching and not wearing visible makeup in public or around men who aren’t your husband or direct blood relative. You also must not follow or mimic ‘fashion trends’ of non-Muslims, in order to set yourself apart.
@@pinkdiamonds9137 thanks for educating me! i didn’t realize that it was like that as a set rule, I thought it was only certain cultures of Islam! hopefully Nicole either makes it work, or leaves because she should respect the expectations of the religion she chose to join!
help her to be a bitch and hung out with men and find herself in 50 years in old bar drinking , stop that shit , islam give value to the woman , what the value they give you there ? making you naked and have sex with your boss and fuck , wake up and stop lying to yourself
Those rules you're describing are already a very conservative interpretation of the religious texts, wich means that there's a lot of other ways to practice/define it. It's just very absurde tbh, just look at the local folklore and traditonnal clothing for women in muslim countries you'll see that it's way less restrictive than this in most cases. So were they all "not modest enough" and "traditonnally" not abiding by their religion ? No. It's just that it was interpreted in a l'ESS conservative way ironically.
I love your videos. This is way better than watching the show.
Nicole is stunning. She could be a Hollywood actress. Her voice is so cute and feminine.Her frame is so wonderfully slim and fragile. I wonder how their love life is together like she probably took his virginity. And why they never had kids?
It is bizarre how they want to control her and force her to cover her hair....absolutely ridiculous!!!!
Imagine an American or white family forcing a veiled woman to unveil
I'm not defending their behavior, but as far as I see they would have accepted her decision to not wear a veil, if she had remained a Christian (because in her religion she doesn't have to). Unfortunately she chose to convert to Islam, which changed the whole situation, because now she is expected to wear one (as she has to follow the rules of her new religion).
@@adaroez it’s not a law nor a rule to wear a veil and if so what f up religion is that ? I wouldn’t wanna be part of that either
Exactly. Is it a choice, or is it compulsory? We can't have it both ways. Even in the case that she converted, her actions to her own body are between her and god.
@@summeretry251 You're right, her actions to her own body are between her and God and the family of Mahmoud shouldn't pressure her into wearing the veil. They're conservatives, which makes it again harder for Nicole. You acne argue whether wearing a veil is compulsory or not, many scholars debate on this issue. And from region to it can be very different. Many Muslim women don't wear the veil and still practice there religion. The issue with Nicole and Mahmoud is that they didn't educate Nicole and that she still does not educate herself about her "new religion".
@@adaroez was she even a Christian? Just because she's an American doesn't mean that she's a Christian. True Christians don't usually convert to Islam, although Muslims convert to Christianity after they learn about it.
Nicole has such a unique,timeless beauty to her.Shes like effortlessly high fashion
I think she seems like a kookie head case.
this shows the parents that she doesn't care about religion at all , may it be christianity or islam , or else she wouldn't have left the first so hastily nor converted to the latter impulsively . didn't she say in the show that she was still "finding herself" or something ?
she puts herself into that mess.
conversion to islam ( or christianity) is not an obligation to marriage unless one of the spouses put it as a condition . my best friend's parents are french ( the mom) and morrocan ( the dad) , they've been married for more than 40 years , the mom never converted to Islam , she still goes to church today , my friend is atheist , only the dad and his two little sisters are muslim , many many couples are like this "bireligious" . convesrion is always a choice regardless of the religion , it's just that in some conservative religious circles , people put that condition themselves, which is their right ( example , muslim man will only marry a muslim woman or a woman who converts to islam , he's not forcing the woman , just saying, "this is my standard" . you also have parents who refuse their children marry non muslim , it's on the parents themselves.
as a roman catholic, i don't know what the future holds for me but if a fall in love with a muslim man to the point of accepting to marry him , i will however not part from my catholic faith . that would be my condition ( because you can't control who your heart falls in love with )
Mahmoud has the Koranic right to beat Nicole if she disobeys. Does she know that? Surah 4:34.
Why are y'all attacking Mahmoud?? when the truth is, she voluntarily converted to islam without doing her research?! she could've run away as early as possible, what are y'all thinking?? trash opinions.
I just can't understand why people from so different cultures get together. It's gonna create problems.
Don't tell me Nicole is NOT a Robot.
Nicole that was really stupid for turning muslim and going to egypt
As a muslim,tjough from a more lenient Pakistani family,tbis familys strictness and the atmosphere makes me uncomfortable
.Nicole can't adjust,and why would she want too.ugh
Nicole is 38 years old. Maybe she has a style, but she is extremely naive and doesn’t want to do anything to improve her life and marriage. Being married for 4 years,she didn’t bother to learn a language , traditions ,religion. Of course she is not happy….She was home all day( in one room) .We didn’t see her to do any housework as well . I think she had a lot of possibilities for improvement,but she didn’t use them.
I came to foreign country without language,went to school. It wasn’t easy at all..at 36…After one year went to college…start to work. When you have family to feed , it’s not much room left for endless discussion about modesty clothes…
I love the way she dresses. Classy and abstract at the same time.
Why isn't religion ever discussed _prior_ to nuptials? I'm just so confused...
I think it was something like:
-they wanted to fuck
-he said only after marriage
-he said marriage only after conversion
-so they fast-tracked conversion and marriage to fuck
Why is Nicole using Mahmoody? You know why... Ask Liz + Darcey what the TLC cameras, fame, clout and money have done to their lives. Nicole won't have to deliver Poppa John's 🍕 or drink canned wine again.
As someone who is a feminist of the west then Muslim religion is not for a progressive women’s movement
They do know that a relationship shouldn't be this hard from the beginning, right ?? Like they know this would be a constant state and they won't just " get through a rough patch "
She self sabotaged , if she didn’t convert there would be 0 problems I agree!!! She could’ve stayed trued to her own beliefs and continued to have a relationship with him. With probably a lot less problems.
The covering isn’t mandatory it’s a choice and I think people don’t understand that
@@hashbrown4me You are 1000 percent correct.
Stop with your takiyah baby😂
I think the uncle has a point
What point. A woman ought to love her oppression. Wow. Idiots and bullies.
It's okay, in 2 weeks she'll be a Buddhist if she can date Jackie Chan
It's always a good idea to research the culture and customs of your partner before getting married 👍❤️
Nikki should wear beautiful tiny skirts and high heels! 😍
Please please please save me from these two people. Misery!!
I can’t believe she is 38… she looks so young
Nicole should have researched the culture, but Mahmoud keeps setting her up to fail. He is at least as blameworthy for all the problems, and some think he is trying to self destruct the relationship so he can be with someone else. The “Mary & Ama” channel did an insightful commentary about this from a Muslim perspective.
Let me watch it
Nicole is from a country that supports her autonomy and her pursuit of life liberty and happiness. Women in Egypt do not have that benefit. She does not understand the difference between an America woman and a muslin Egyptian woman. She needs to run for her life. Pray for women who do not have the autonomy we are guaranteed at birth. BTW Islam is one of the most beautiful religions in the world. 🙏 I do love it and keep it separate from the abuse that religion often pairs w...
It is ultimately on Nicole that she converted to a religion she knew nothing about. But this is why if you convert to Catholicism as an adult you'll be in classes and participating in various milestones with a Godparent to walk you through any questions for at least a year before you can be baptized and confirmed. You absolutely know what you're getting into if you convert to Catholicism.
I married Muslim for 30 years. I am Christian none asked or pushed me to to convert being a Muslim.
Actually, by marrying a Muslim you automatically become Muslim and your children are born Muslim. Automatically.
I've spent a good portion of my life studying Islam, and the last 10 years, trying to understand the relation between culture and their spiritual path. A lot of people manipulate religions to make them believe that everything is compulsory, and when the entire foundation of the faith is your free will to choose, do you follow this path, do you not follow this path, if people force people to do something in a religion, they're not coming of their own volition, they're afraid. It doesn't matter if it's true or not to somebody like me, they believe or from what is written in their own scripture, their God knows. He knows the deepest part of their heart. For something like the hijab, it is a very personal choice to make, especially for somebody that did not grow up in a society where hijab was in normal way of dressing. I appreciate that these Muslims in this video, the ones in his family, are curious but kind, I mean we can look at this historically, it's never mentioned in the Quran, it was the style at the time to wear a hair covering. It is customary in a lot of countries, and my ancestors ranged from Catholic to polytheistic, and I remember hair coverings throughout history. Women war headcoverings, and it wasn't about oppression, it was about style. And of course there would be times when it would just be a pain in the butt depending on the kind of style, there would be times when women wore no head covering. But generally speaking it kept the hair from blowing into their faces. But it was not necessarily about modesty, and the prophet had to ask his wives to please wear a covering, because he was a center of a lot of attention, and as societies do, they would gossip and they would wonder about the wives of the prophet. I mean they were human beings, this didn't happen in some spiritual bubble with nothing but Islamic vibes, this was a change in culture, a change in future traditions, it is an important time in history, you don't have to be Muslim to research this. The prophet did say that men and women should be modest, they should cover themselves, but this was because people were looking towards the wives and wondering, and I guess people didn't want men looking at their wives and wondering anything, thinking about anything, she's a blank slate, she's covered up, she has no individuality, she's a tool, she's a vessel, but the prophet loved his wives on some level, even if it wasn't romantic, it was more of a guardianship anyways, but he cared for these women, or at least most of them. It's a conundrum to hear Muslims today talk about everything they want to do to oppress a woman, and so when families like this come about, it's not about oppression, this is what being a Muslim means to them, so a lot of things change, subtle changes, feelings, or is, it can look the same to the outside but once you're inside of it, there's all these complexities of life that we have them all around us as well. To somebody like me, it would feel like oppression, even though it was never meant to be that. Becoming a part of this faith, this is what they believe, if you don't believe it, if your ideas about the kind of person you are and this religion is standing over here and they want you to step into the box of that religion, and you're like whoa, I can't step all the way in, then you're not following their faith. And yeah we're all about freedom of thought and freedom of religion and freedom of so many things that we feel entitled to have and we take that entitlement all over the world, for those that live in a democracy, I'm not just talking about my own country, there's so many other countries where religion is not a force, but if you go to a culture and it's one thing if you can't fit into their culture but if you can't fit into their religion and they're very religious, it's two different levels. This is what he believes, and is it way over the top to somebody like me, absolutely, but it is his life, his breath, his belief, and very few people are like this. I may not agree with the faith, I may be just completely utterly different but I absolutely appreciate their devotion to what they believe. Are they absolutely perfect? I don't even know what that is. I think of the families I know around me, and what makes them them and I see the same elements, but I really appreciate just the authentic devotion to their life. I understand this woman, and I don't think badly of her, I see her for what she is, she's flaky, she's a little damaged, I think she has a really good heart, but she's just a little bit of a space cadet, and she's good with that, like it's quirky and fun and sweet, and it seems like she thinks a whole lot, but she's not understanding the deepness of the kind of connection you need when you marry somebody. And granted, people do what they do, but to marry into a different culture, a different lifestyle, a different religion, these people believe this with all of their souls, even if it's more tradition than spirituality, this is the normality and it's a good normal for that culture. I hate that so many people out there give these kind of people such a bad name, I'm sure the same is what we reflect outward as a country too. I think of what our normal looks like and it's brighter to me, it's more free, but it's possibly more dangerous, we're getting bigger, we're expanding our enlightenment, but there's a price to that, as much as we see violence in these other countries, they seem to start to signify everything everywhere, and I wonder if we look like that to them. The negative stereotypes of what the world sees any country like, from the outside looking in. I don't even know what normal is anymore in this country, but I know what I want the world to be like, and my path in life is dedicated. I want the world to be a kinder place, a more understanding place, I can't tell the difference between seeing somebody's ego and seeing their hatred or their racism, xenophobia, on and on and on and if I didn't say any of the missing wars, I feel bad because there's just too many to list all of them. These shows, these people, most of the time, it's like watching a train wreck, I like seeing the other cultures, I see parts that I didn't know existed, and then we get to know people and for whatever it is, when we get to understand a part of somebody else's culture. And I don't know how many shows are like this out here, but it always feels like an American train wreck to me. I don't know if they represent my country anymore, it makes me sad, and embarrassed, and it's not about the people, and it's not about the country, it's all around that you hope that if this is what represents us, and if it doesn't horrify you on some level, just I'm not talking about all of them being just the worst, it's just normal, I want normal, I want to see what normal people are doing. I can't imagine doing the things that these people do, the lack of thought, the lack of understanding that you're not the main character, and that's what it feels like America has right now. That whole main character syndrome. Every alien movie, like seriously, every once in awhile we get like a sidekick or something, somebody else gets to star with us, but we are going to be the bigger star. Unless it's a true story, true stories have everybody, I don't know what our true stories are right now. I don't know if he's a real example of like what is normal nowadays for their society, religion if it's a huge deal to you, and you meet a woman who obviously has no clue, and she wants to convert, shouldn't it be your responsibility to make sure she knows what she's getting herself into, because if you're not educating her, about what it is, and you love her, you're going to want her to know everything there is to know about this one thing that you're going to share together, neither of them seem to think very deeply about each other, so maybe they both are normal for some people, but it's not funny to me It's sad, he should have thought about all of this and talked about it, people can fall in love, I just wish they'd be a little smarter about how to go about it. Like what does love actually mean to anyone? I don't know why people either can't feel it or share it, but I don't know what relationships are even supposed to mean anymore when I see stuff like this. I don't enjoy watching this, but it's like a person on person train wreck.
Write a fvcking book.
Creator of Islam Muhammad married a little 5 yo child. F Islam
They cover their women to control them....
She’s so pretty why chose a man like this!
I would not give up my religion for love. It’s so complicated.
Wouldn't give up my religion for anything.
I don’t see how both of them thought this would work. She did not research at all. Why would you keep moving back to a place you’re not happy? From being isolated being around his family and she’s an introvert, to hating the way of life, what will be her last straw to realize this will never work?
There're type of Muslim conservatives
One is extreme
Another is moderate
Third is liberal
The problem is not her conversion but choosing her and the family
Honestly, I don't feel bad for Nicole....I think she totally jumped into this marriage, just to be married!! And she knew what that country was like and the strictness of things there isf woman, before she even got married to him!! She doesn't even know a single word in their language!! The smart and mature thing for her to have done would have been looking up the religion as well as the duties of housewife over there (*since it is WAY different then in the states...) And she knew besides the strictness there, that they would be living with his family for a while due to the last time they had an apt together and she totally ran off and left him and the country!! So Nicole basically does things without thinking, and truthfully, that is dangerous!! But I can guarantee:**THIS MARRIAGE MOST DEFINITELY WILL NOT LAST!!
It would be best for them both to make a clean break, get divorced, and move on without each other. Nicole will likely never fully adjust to what is expected of her and Mahmoud will always be frustrated and annoyed by her mood swings and American way of thinking. I don't know what the appeal for either of them was, but they need to just end things before children come into the picture making it a hundred times worse.
@@DarlingNikki2 I totally agree with everything you said!!! 😉
Regardless converting to another faith just for one man/woman doesn't sit right with me.
This is a trainwreck.
Casey Jones woo hoo!
Why is he sooooo limp wristed?!?!?! Its not just once, its frequently. Makes my gay-dar flare up
Watching these videos has helped me to understand EVERYTHING I did wrong in my relationship with my Moroccan husband, I see myself in Nicole and my ex husband in Mahmoud.
I have shown him a video of these two and apologised for everything I did which he felt was Disrespectful. We are dating again and I will do better and try harder to be the wife he wanted me to be in the beginning.
I’ve been to living in saudi arabia for more than 10 years… what i know is that non Muslim female marrying a muslim male, they are allowed to get married even if the woman did not convert… I was just surprised why nicole converted to Islam before the marriage… converting to islam shouldn’t be obligatory. Mahmoud should have explained it to her before they got married, because they could get married in a civil wedding than get married in muslim rights….
He should wear that hijab
People need to actually stop and think before they get involved with certain people. Yes you can be inlove and find eachother attractive, blah blah, but culture and religion really does run a person's life at the end of the day. If you can't see yourself adopting their religion or culture, then don't date them.
Are they allowed to just get a divorce?
She didn't ask what it is to be Muslim. She converted to be married. It was his responsibility to guide her to Islam the right way. Nichole knows the expectations, but is arrogant and entitled so she thinks she can changed the requirements. And acts like she doesn't know what she agreed to.
The obfuscation and lies are what makes people convert. Then they discover the TRUTH.
Nicole didn't want to make any effort by learning about his religion, language or culture!
GOOD LORD she drives me crazy (sorry Nicole)…She’s CREATING problems…not only does she expect Egyptians to be American around her, but she CONVERTED CASUALLY, then complains & cries about HOW UNFAIR Islamic law is!!!! She did that to HERSELF
Nicole is killing me with her indecisiveness 😅, is she a Gemini by chance? lmao jk frfr.
Sorry but you can’t force anything in Islam. He married her. Made his choice. She is an individual and maybe they need to live away from family. Give their relationship time to BREATHE. But if she is unhappy, she can move on. Life is as simple as that. Belief develops over time but it will never happen in this pressure cooker!
I am absolutely in love with your voice, my man, dont even care about Nicole story line lmao
Ugh! The accent is grating...
Not a native English speaker but I can't take various UK English accents along w/Aussies & Kiwis. Brit English is like torture to my ears😢
She didn't have to convert she could of just said she's a Christian and that would of been fine
And if she googled that she would've known...and knowing is half the battle 🫣
@Li Jo she seems to be the type to believe everything anyone says. I doubt she's ever Googled anything. She doesn't seem too bright
*have
I doubt it, his family probably would have been upset. I think there are islamic texts or interpretations thereof allowing intermarriage of muslims and believers of other abrahamic faiths, but that's certainly unpopular in most muslim-dominated cultures.
@@Ass_of_Amalek Muslim men are allowed to marry non Muslims but Muslim women are not. Because men are the head of household and the children will be whatever the father is.
She should have never converted if she was actually a true Christian
Nicole please do yourself an favour. If your not happy just leave Dont think just leave. It’s better for the both of you
You're awesome very interesting my first time here and I subscribe
Why is this girl torturing herself like this!??
Muslims can marry Christian women, Nicole should have known this from the beginning
She just needs to go home already!
Very good point, you get it very well, the only woman this kind of guys respect is their mom, others are tools like this Nicole, she is a trophee object for him, a blonde that he will exhibit because of his own complex and at the same time she had to follow his servitude agenda to please to neighborhood and his society, to proof he is a man who is in charge, controlling, this kind of men do not consider a woman as such but she should obey him, because he is educated that he is superior a spouse role is to obey and please her husband, never contradict him and in public shut up and follow him like a nice and docile horse as you said.Very good analysis, as a muslim girl I can confirm this segregation because it is what every patriarcal system is promoting and yes, they are afraid of women who had opinion or spoke loudly their mind.
It reminds me of when Sinead O'Connor converted to the Bedouin religion, only to learn that drinking is forbidden!
Also, the backward Egyptian should have tried to educate her on the restrictions of the desert-religion before letting the impulsive 40-somerhing take the plunge!
Okay but despite this having nothing to do with any of it, can I just say how pretty she looks with the hijab on? Aw!
Anyway, yee she naive AF and he, being so rigid, should have stuck to a girl of his own culture. Though he probably couldn't afford to marry an Egyptian girl.
@@hashbrown4me To each their own :)
This guy looks so much like the actor who played in ash vs evil dead 🤣
I gone at to disagree about the not showing up after being late part. Rude? Yes. Just call and explain that you had a fight to your family. Family should want the best for you. And if you are having a couples quarrel your family should okay I understand take your time. No sense in driving in that sort of mood and putting yourself and other drivers on the road at risk (if you are driving) and no sense showing up with anger