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I'm glad you showed the statues. They arent really in public so to speak..one has to choose to enter if you will. They are exactly where they should be in my opinion. Speaking of which, one of the things I love most about your channel is your lack of bias. While your passion is clear, you dont get in the way of presenting what happened. Thank you for that and for taking us on your adventures and teaching us along the way.
Absolutely loved seeing the “General” my grandfather was an engineer for Southern Pacific early in the 1900’s but unfortunately he died before I was born and way too soon - he was in his ‘40’s and died of pneumonia. His route(s) were in south central Texas mostly. I love history, mainly WWII cause I was born in 1943, “smack dab in the middle of the war.” I had a couple of friends who were like my extra sisters who taught school on army bases in Germany for about 15 years each and I would go visit in the ‘80’s and we would travel around Europe. My favorite countries are Austria, Germany, and Switzerland primarily. Love your videos. My husband and I will be married 60 years on Veteran’s Day this year and he finally was able to make the trip over with me in 2011 where we rented a car for a month and drove - wonderful trip of a lifetime. Keep up your great enthusiasm and speaking voice!
We love watching your historical videos. They are always interesting and informative. I am a civil war buff even though I am a Canadian. Some of my ancestors served on the union side but that was when our borders were open. My father and mother took me and my sisters to Gettysburg in the summer of 1966. I took my wife back there July 3,2013 on the 150th anniversary of the battle. We were in the house where Jenny Wade was fatally shot and went down into the cellar exactly 150 years to the day went she was wrapped and laid down. It was a very awesome experience that brought history to life. Your videos do the same....thanks so much!
History needs to be remembered no matter what the history may be. Most of the truthful history is horrific no matter how you look at it. If you don't remember the mistakes in the past from history, you will keep repeating the same mistakes your predecessors did before you.
The CSA Civil War display looks interesting, excellent ! I have since nice a child and yet today enjoy the CSA side of the War ! Uniforms, weapons and battler sites, museums ! The HO Scale train displays was neat !
If you go to the Atlanta History Center, you can see the Texas, which chased (and ultimately caught) The General. It also survived and has been restored to mint condition.
Believe it or not but the general actually last ran under it's own power in the 1960s the Louisville and Nashville Railroad pulled the engine from display in Chattanooga for the 100th anniversary of the great locomotive chase in 1962, and they restored the locomotive and it was put on mainline steam tours, it even retraced the route it took a century prior when it was stolen.
This Western and Atlantic RR. locomotive is in such great shape because it was rebuilt in Louisville, Ky. in 1961 by the L&N RR. to working condition. It traveled around the L&N, NC&StL system under its own power (pulling a couple of vintage cars) for the 1961 centennial of the War Between the States, It had been on display in Chattanooga before the rebuilding. When it was supposed to be returned, the state of Georgia sued to get the locomotive moved to Kennesaw in Georgia. The case went all the way to the US Supreme Court for a decision as to who owned the locomotive; the state of Georgia won. We in Tennessee call this the case of the locomotive being stolen for the SECOND time.
My 6 year old history lover is obsessed with your channel. Thanks so much for doing this, you’re showing him so many things he may not get to see for years and years otherwise.
I'm so glad! That's exactly why I created this channel to begin with. Feel free to share it out if you think that there might be anyone else who would benefit.
I am a retired band director, and one of the students favorite pieces to perform was "The Great Locomotive Chase", based on this story. It was a wonderful way to introduce students to this bit of history. Thanks so much for your video. It brought back a lot of good memories of teaching music and history together to the next generation. Keep up the great work!
I respectfully offer my opinion regarding these moments in history. If not marked and remembered, then humanity will forget the lessons to be learn from history. Thank you for sharing historic adventures 👍 🇺🇸
That is definitely on my top list of neatest museums I have ever seen. To stand there and actually have General in front of you is almost breathtaking to know how much of vital piece of history it is. Awesome video!!
Wow! The General. I was a boy when Disney did the Great Locomotive Chase with Fess Parker as Andrews. The early silent film "The General" is a good movie too. Thanks for this.
Wow, wonderful conservation. Like the way you tippy toed through the sensitive issues, not going to get political, but, our history is like a puzzle and if pieces are omitted the puzzle isn't complete. Nice that they looked at the time through the different perspectives. Good tour. Thank you for the short escape today. Be safe and take care.
KFC was a real eye catcher, very unique LOL. Being a Sanders, {not related} I get, "are you related"? all the time HA! Yes my Grandfather was born in Kentucky. Really enjoyed this tour, many things of interest. The patterns made for molds is fantastic, it's amazing how they did this, not an everyday thing you would even think of. You did good thanks.
This museum is actually in Kennesaw, not Marietta. When I was little, we would visit Chattanooga and the General was on display at the L and N train station there. When the Civil War Centennial was held from 1961 thru 1965, the General was totally restored and toured the country under its own steam. They had to change the width of the wheels to accommodate modern train tracks. I was in high school when it came thru my hometown. We have old 8mm home movies of that event. Everyone in town turned out to see it. After the Centennial, it was retired and placed in this museum at Kennesaw. The Texas was the train engine that the Confederates used to chase and eventually capture the General. ThevTexas was recently restored and is currently on display at the Atlanta History Center. They tried to get it to display alongside the General but Atlanta wouldn't give it up. Maybe someday they can be reunited. We haven't been to see the General in several years, but after seeing your video I want to go to the museum and see it again. Really enjoyed your tour of the museum. Thanks for your videos that you have done on this area that has so much Civil War history. 😊😊😊
Good job. I have visited many battlefields and looked at many statues of prominent civil war participants from both armies. I have perused many many pictures of soldiers, some posed for family keepsakes, some for use on a carte de visite and of course as a historical record of battlefield casualties. All very moving. A cultural observation struck me one day years ago and it has consistently proven true including being reinforced by this video. There was virtually NO obesity problem in the armies of the 1860's. Lots of walking, lots of digging, and rations of questionable nutritional value by today's standards made for a thin soldier. Even pictures of generals in camp who led comparative lives of leisure (rode everywhere, officer's mess, beds to sleep in etc.) all save for a few had flat bellies. Just a thought. Keep up the good work.... And I challenge you in your travels to find a statue of a fat general! LOL
I’ve been going there sense I was a little girl about 45 years. Back when this museum was the general train and a video only. Many great memories of my grandfather he loved the General he came from a long line of engineers from Georgia. Thanks for the memories.
Awesome!!!! When you entered the room with the General in I said WOW!! It's fantastic that they have that there. Makes me want to make a trip to Georgia.
Its called "The Big Chicken" by us locals and is used as a landmark for giving driving instructions to travelers by the locals. The old one was replaced a few years back when they redesigned the restaurant and we all love it.
I had no idea the General was still around! When I saw her, I actually said "Wow!" That is the coolest thing I've seen in a while. Thank you SO MUCH! -- BTW, if you ever get the time, watch Buster Keaton's The General. His best silent movie in my opinion. It's a very good watch. Funny and entertaining! His stunts are incredible!
Yes, that's called "The Big Chicken," and it is a major landmark in the Atlanta area. It's actually in Marietta, and is used to give directions to people, all the time, i.e. "We're one mile north of the "Big Chicken." Glad you toured this museum. It's the "Southern Museum of Civil War and Locomotive History." I would have included the full name in your title. The Glover Machine works shut down and for many decades the old building never used again. When they went to check it out, they found all these molds and machinery left behind from ages ago and transferred some of them to the museum. When they updated and expanded the museum, it tripled in size, partly to accommodate the stuff from Glover. Statues are fine in Museums. NO ONE should be opposed to it. It's part of our history and should not be forgotten. Now, taking them down from display the middle of cities is fine, but don't tear them down and destroy them. Again, it's part of history. You know the old saying: "Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it."
I am definitely going to make a trip to visit that museum. I first learned of the raid and the train chase was in high school in the 60's but had forgotten all about it. Thanks for jogging my memory. I seem to recall the leader of the raid was not awarded the MOH because he was a civilian. Thanks for another great video.
Martin J. Hawkins is one of the raiders. He is buried in Woodlawn Cemetery here in my home town. To see the very train he help steal and rode on is amazing. Stripping the mementos of our presence demeans all those of the past, and what they did. Sad.
History tells us where we came from to get where we are today and a guide in where to continue in the future with the knowledge not to repeat many of the mistakes we have been through. I have subscribed to your history videos a few months ago. I thoroughly enjoy them learning much I didn't know.
Thank you for this video ! I am John Robert Pittenger , the Great Great Nephew of William Pittenger of Andrews Raiders . He wrote the book “ Daring and Suffering “ that the 1956 Walt Disney Movie about the raid was based on .
Another great video! The fact that these items are still here is fascinating. I get to travel all over the place and never have to leave home.🤣😂 Thanks, JD!
The General was almost lost to history. After the war it continued in service and was eventually retired. About 1892 someone discovered it abandoned on a railroad siding. He knew its history and saved it from being scrapped. He probably didn't realize what a great thing he had contributed to history.
Luckiest day in a long time that I happened to stumble upon your channel!! So enjoyable. I especially like all the artifacts. Thank you for your time and patience doing these vids for us!!!!
Sunday I drove through a small town called Apple Creek Ohio and they have a monument there dedicated to William Knight. Love how history comes around full circle!
Amazing that it survives. The story of how it was saved all these years would be interesting I am sure. Thanks for showing as much of the museum as you did. I think the statues are in a appropriate venue. I like the fact that they show both Union and Confederates.
Cool video and the General was amazing! I've always been fascinated how heavy objects were manufactured and moved around in the 1800s. Here in CO there's still a fair amount of really heavy mining equipment from the 1880s+ in the middle of nowhere - such as big boilers and stamp mills. It's incredible. Thanks for another great pice of art JD.
Wow that was amazing what great museums there are in Georgia I never knew was there. I would love to see that train. I have to go down to Georgia to see all these places. How amazing thank you for showing us
Thank you for a very informative and interesting article on the General and the Raiders ! Take care , stay safe and healthy wherever your research or adventure takes you ! Doing well here in Kansas .
Love the video. My great grandfather is William Bensinger when I was a young boy my mother and father took me down to see the General. What a great experience just wish I was a little older so I could really understand what I was seeing. Thank you for your video
Lee actually respected his horse much more so than other generals or people in general. He was a brilliant man with a good heart. Not every confederate was for slavery or destruction.
@@rhythmannblues1182 Lee was a slave holder and a traitor just like every southern politician and general. Lincoln was the best friend both sides would have had after the the war but the Confederate secrete service assassinated him and tried to kill his cabinet members . The confederates were no better than Caesar in Gaul or Stalin in the Ukraine.
I live just up the way in Chattanooga and our history in linked to Marietta by Andrew's Raiders, as you mentioned. I love seeing people visiting Marietta and send people down there to get more information all the time. They have the original general, and Chattanooga has a replica. Interestingly, Ringgold is very walkable to the downtown Chattanooga area. They were *so close.*
Thanks! I really do appreciate that. As long as people are getting some history, I’m happy. With that being said, I’m wondering if it’s possible to hit 100K by the end of the year.
Totally awesome video.History good and bad is still our history.Getting rid of statues doesn't change a thing.Literally stupid cancelling a t.v. show.It seems we have more to worry about than trying to change history.Thank you for the great adventure.☺💟👍🇺🇸
Yeah, the Dukes of Hazzard thing was a bit much. Hopefully we can all grow a little thicker skin and appreciate the good and not so good parts of history.
Just brilliant! The Andrews Raid (what one author describes as 'a footnote on the pages of history') was the first story of the US Civil War that I ever learnt, and I've loved it ever since. As she stands today, I doubt little of the original 'General' remains bar the name plates - apart from damage during the burning of Atlanta, she was rebuilt several times during her active career - the same is true of most preserved steam locomotives in fact. None the less, she's still beautiful. Being slightly pedantic - the General, the Texas and their brethren are not 'trains', they are locomotives. The train is the rolling stock which runs behind them. That apart - brilliant, a real treat!
Great episode and wonderful museum! Just a thought about a good trip one day maybe fort Sumter and the H.L. Hunley Museum. Keep up the great work buddy.
Oh, man! I'd like to see that museum and just explore that area! The General, what an awesome artifact! The Medal of Honor! Wow! If you ever get a chance watch the Buster Keaton movie "The General" it is a funny and fanciful telling of the incident. Thank you for the journey! Another great job!
Contrary to popular belief, the Un Civil War was NOT fought over slavery. "The War of Northern Agression." Just found your channel, good coverage here Sir.
Well, that was part of the plan until I was threatened by a less than awesome security guard. I'm going to try and make a contact there and make a return trip. It was a pretty cool place for sure.
When I first saw this video title I figured this was in regards to Andrews Raiders. Very cool... Most never heard of this story and the first Medals of honor came out of it. Another cool fact.. I’m pretty sure 19 servicemen have won it twice... crazy.
I used to have an old record that had sound recordings of the steam pump, bell and whistle of the General during its 1960's restoration. During the locomotives restoration it was converted over to burn fuel oil instead of wood. A display of wood was placed on the locomotives tender to cover up the oil bunker. There have been a couple of movie remakes of the great locomotive chase one of the better ones was produced by Walt Disney and featured a similar locomotive to the General called the William Mason from the B7O roundhouse museum in Baltimore Md.
Papaw lived down the road from the KFC there in Dallas. Used to love seeing that place as a kid on visits. Videos are awesome I never realized how big kennessaw mtn battlefield was.
My maternal grandfather was Harold Wollam, WW I & WW II Navy submariner and a grandson or great grandson of Pvt. John Wollam,, Ohio Infantry, one of the recipients of the M of H. John Wollam is also listed at the US Army Infantry Museum, at Ft Benning, Ga, in the Medal of Honor recipients section. I was able to visit there 3 years ago. US Army Viet Nam medic, ‘69-‘70
@@glennwhittaker197 it isn't as action packed or as exciting as sone others of his but I like it because its a silent movie and apart of history. Keaton, himself, was an interesting man and had a rough life before and during his stardom. However, it is pretty cool that this video gave you the idea to at least watch the movie.
Gonna start sending you a bill for gasoline if you keep showing me cool things in places I’ve been. Gotta step up my research game when I go to these places. Another great video. If you ever get to Harrisburg PA, go to the National Civil War museum, Grants saddle box, only known surviving surgeons wagon, piece of the fence rail from the union line during Pickets charge, just to name a few things.
That is really cool! I love history, both sides and just history in general. Moat people dont atop and think about the good that came out of a bad situation. Andrews and his men were amazing and really crazy for kidnapping a train. I have seen several silent films on the General, to include Buster Keaton's movie but I never thought it was still in that great of condition and on display. I love those that prefer to share their travels with those that can't get to sites, this stupid virus or not. Thank you!! Btw, I grew up watching The DoH and there was NOTHING controversial about it. Never any indication of favoring of color or whatever so, I think people are just sore and attacking everything for any reason they can think of. It was a great show and had morals in it. As opposed to some of the stuff on tv today that encourage much worse than running around in a car. Anyways, I have enjoyed watching several of these videos and will pass them along as my step dad is also a history buff. THANK YOU!!!!
Before everyone had a GPS they used the Big Chicken as the main landmark for directions. I grew up in Kennesaw but my Uncle's restaurant was just off the Marietta Square across the street from the Court House
I really really like your videos of history. I like your presentation and the music that you choose. If I could afford to become a patron I would. Thank you 😊😊
I used to live about an hour from Kennesaw. I've been atop Kennesaw Mountain a number of times. I've also been to Cheatam Hill, which isn't to be missed if you're a Civil War nerd or just like being in the woods. I'm both. You think Murrieta is hot? Try Macon. Worse yet, try Valdosta or Savannah. Savannah also has bugs. LOTS of bugs. GA is still a beautiful state and well worth a visit.
Imagine if the Southern Confederate States had 25% of the Manufacturing that the Northern States had and more manpower for troops things could have gone another way in our Civil War. In 2022, I think there is too much elimination of some of the Southern Confederate Historical Memorability even though it represents a Sad Period of our history. I hope the current 'Retribution' doesn't go to the point in closing sites like these shown today. I don't support the "Lost Cause" Movement, nor do I condone the Slavery of a Proud Race of People from Africa. Their contribution and presence in this Country had been hidden and undervalued too long. We must Acknowledge, Remember & Learn for our Future. A New Englander. Another Great Video. Never disappoint. Thank you.
The General is actually in the museum in Kennesaw Georgia just north of Marietta at the area that was known as Big Shanty. The Texas Locomotive which chased the General was for many years in Atlanta's Grant Park in what was the Cyclorama which showed part of the battle of Atlanta in a diorama set in a circular room where you would be placed in the middle of the battle revolving around the painting while a person presenting the history of the Battle of Atlanta was pointing out certin parts of the diorama. The Texas locomotive was more in the basement of the two or three story building. Over the past 40 or so years the city didn't push the presence of the Cyclorama and the items inside of the building were getting into disrepair. Around five or six years ago, the city had plans to change the building for another use. The Atlanta History Center in Buckhead, another part of Atlanta, raised enough money to have the painting removed and repaired. Actually, part of the circular painting was removed so it could fit inside of the Cyclorama and upon relocating it to The History Center it was added back to the painting making it whole again. The Texas Locomotive was also removed and while they were constructing the addition to feature the painting and locomotive, it was gone over and put back in the shape it once was. So now the two locomotives are within about 40 miles of each other to tell of the history of the great event they are known for. Union Station in Chattanooga became the General’s permanent home in 1911 though still owned by the Western and Atlantic railroad. As a concession for a new lease for use of the W&A rail line, the Louisville and Nashville Railroad agreed to return the General to Georgia, but the city of Chattanooga filed suit against its loss. The matter went to the Sixth Federal District Court of Appeals, which ruled that the L&N could do whatever it wished. Chattanooga’s attempt to have that decision reversed failed when the U.S. Supreme Court refused to hear the appeal. In February of 1972 the General was moved back to Georgia and placed in the Big Shanty museum.
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Did you visit Wildman's while you were there? He's a wealth of knowledge!!
I'm glad you showed the statues. They arent really in public so to speak..one has to choose to enter if you will. They are exactly where they should be in my opinion.
Speaking of which, one of the things I love most about your channel is your lack of bias. While your passion is clear, you dont get in the way of presenting what happened. Thank you for that and for taking us on your adventures and teaching us along the way.
Thanks. I try to maintain a neutral position when I’m showing this stuff.
Just showed this to my wife. Like you, I'm a huge Civil War nut...but my kids are in love with Trains. This is going to make for a great destination!
Awesome! I've got a few more videos on here with trains that your kids might like as well. Episodes 74 and 75.
Absolutely loved seeing the “General” my grandfather was an engineer for Southern Pacific early in the 1900’s but unfortunately he died before I was born and way too soon - he was in his ‘40’s and died of pneumonia. His route(s) were in south central Texas mostly. I love history, mainly WWII cause I was born in 1943, “smack dab in the middle of the war.” I had a couple of friends who were like my extra sisters who taught school on army bases in Germany for about 15 years each and I would go visit in the ‘80’s and we would travel around Europe. My favorite countries are Austria, Germany, and Switzerland primarily. Love your videos. My husband and I will be married 60 years on Veteran’s Day this year and he finally was able to make the trip over with me in 2011 where we rented a car for a month and drove - wonderful trip of a lifetime. Keep up your great enthusiasm and speaking voice!
Thanks! Appreciate that.
We love watching your historical videos. They are always interesting and informative. I am a civil war buff even though I am a Canadian. Some of my ancestors served on the union side but that was when our borders were open.
My father and mother took me and my sisters to Gettysburg in the summer of 1966. I took my wife back there July 3,2013 on the 150th anniversary of the battle. We were in the house where Jenny Wade was fatally shot and went down into the cellar exactly 150 years to the day went she was wrapped and laid down. It was a very awesome experience that brought history to life. Your videos do the same....thanks so much!
Oh wow! How cool. I'm in the planning staged of a deep dive into Gettysburg now.
The History Underground it was chilling when you shared one battle and announced that your gggrandfather fought in it.Awesome!
And yet another reason these videos could be an hour in length. Love em
Ha! Thanks. You'd probably get tired of my face after that long though.
History needs to be remembered no matter what the history may be. Most of the truthful history is horrific no matter how you look at it. If you don't remember the mistakes in the past from history, you will keep repeating the same mistakes your predecessors did before you.
The CSA Civil War display looks interesting, excellent ! I have since nice a child and yet today enjoy the CSA side of the War ! Uniforms, weapons and battler sites, museums !
The HO Scale train displays was neat !
Yeah, I thought that it was all pretty interesting.
I cant believe in what mint condition that train is, on this day! Amazing! Thats the pure work of people who love history. 🙏
Couldn't agree more!
Yes and God bless em for preserving history in such a beautiful way! I restore aircraft so i really enjoyed the engine!
If you go to the Atlanta History Center, you can see the Texas, which chased (and ultimately caught) The General.
It also survived and has been restored to mint condition.
Believe it or not but the general actually last ran under it's own power in the 1960s the Louisville and Nashville Railroad pulled the engine from display in Chattanooga for the 100th anniversary of the great locomotive chase in 1962, and they restored the locomotive and it was put on mainline steam tours, it even retraced the route it took a century prior when it was stolen.
This Western and Atlantic RR. locomotive is in such great shape because it was rebuilt in Louisville, Ky. in 1961 by the L&N RR. to working condition. It traveled around the L&N, NC&StL system under its own power (pulling a couple of vintage cars) for the 1961 centennial of the War Between the States, It had been on display in Chattanooga before the rebuilding. When it was supposed to be returned, the state of Georgia sued to get the locomotive moved to Kennesaw in Georgia. The case went all the way to the US Supreme Court for a decision as to who owned the locomotive; the state of Georgia won. We in Tennessee call this the case of the locomotive being stolen for the SECOND time.
My 6 year old history lover is obsessed with your channel. Thanks so much for doing this, you’re showing him so many things he may not get to see for years and years otherwise.
I'm so glad! That's exactly why I created this channel to begin with. Feel free to share it out if you think that there might be anyone else who would benefit.
I am a retired band director, and one of the students favorite pieces to perform was "The Great Locomotive Chase", based on this story. It was a wonderful way to introduce students to this bit of history. Thanks so much for your video. It brought back a lot of good memories of teaching music and history together to the next generation. Keep up the great work!
Interesting! I'll have to look that one up.
Being from Georgia. I can confirm that the big chicken is used for directions....
Ha! That thing was amazing.
’Turn right after the big chicken and continue down until you hear the bees buzzing, you can't miss it.’
@@dragoonTT orrrr, as I overheard one person giving directions say, If you see the big chicken you've gone too far.
@@dragoonTT LOL!
So true, William!
I respectfully offer my opinion regarding these moments in history. If not marked and remembered, then humanity will forget the lessons to be learn from history. Thank you for sharing historic adventures 👍 🇺🇸
Thanks! All history needs to be remembered for sure.
best channel on you tube . you are doing what i always wanted to do. thank you for the content. plan to watch them all
Wow, thanks! That really does mean a lot to me. Feel free to share some of these episodes out if you catch one that you like from time to time.
That is definitely on my top list of neatest museums I have ever seen. To stand there and actually have General in front of you is almost breathtaking to know how much of vital piece of history it is. Awesome video!!
I totally agree! Very cool place. Thanks!
Wow! The General. I was a boy when Disney did the Great Locomotive Chase with Fess Parker as Andrews. The early silent film "The General" is a good movie too. Thanks for this.
Pretty cool to see it in real life. Seems like a modern Hollywood treatment of this would be in order.
I forgot all about that movie. I am a Davy Crockett fan and fess played him too. I will have to find it. Thanks!
Wow, wonderful conservation. Like the way you tippy toed through the sensitive issues, not going to get political, but, our history is like a puzzle and if pieces are omitted the puzzle isn't complete. Nice that they looked at the time through the different perspectives. Good tour.
Thank you for the short escape today. Be safe and take care.
Thanks! Appreciate that.
KFC was a real eye catcher, very unique LOL. Being a Sanders, {not related} I get, "are you related"? all the time HA! Yes my Grandfather was born in Kentucky. Really enjoyed this tour, many things of interest. The patterns made for molds is fantastic, it's amazing how they did this, not an everyday thing you would even think of. You did good thanks.
Thanks! Appreciate that. And yes, that chicken demands that you look at it.
Thrilled you're touring this whole area. Your videos and research are appreciated and valuable to our community! Thank you!
So nice of you! Thanks!
This museum is actually in Kennesaw, not Marietta. When I was little, we would visit Chattanooga and the General was on display at the L and N train station there. When the Civil War Centennial was held from 1961 thru 1965, the General was totally restored and toured the country under its own steam. They had to change the width of the wheels to accommodate modern train tracks. I was in high school when it came thru my hometown. We have old 8mm home movies of that event. Everyone in town turned out to see it. After the Centennial, it was retired and placed in this museum at Kennesaw. The Texas was the train engine that the Confederates used to chase and eventually capture the General. ThevTexas was recently restored and is currently on display at the Atlanta History Center. They tried to get it to display alongside the General but Atlanta wouldn't give it up. Maybe someday they can be reunited. We haven't been to see the General in several years, but after seeing your video I want to go to the museum and see it again. Really enjoyed your tour of the museum. Thanks for your videos that you have done on this area that has so much Civil War history. 😊😊😊
Doh! I'll make a correction about the town in the description. I come from an area where the towns don't merge together. Thanks.
Also, the Lacey hotel was located just outside of the depot. The general was stolen where it now sits. Kennasaw was known as Big Shanty back then.
Mary H. I and other's would luv to see that home movie of the General!
Good job. I have visited many battlefields and looked at many statues of prominent civil war participants from both armies. I have perused many many pictures of soldiers, some posed for family keepsakes, some for use on a carte de visite and of course as a historical record of battlefield casualties. All very moving.
A cultural observation struck me one day years ago and it has consistently proven true including being reinforced by this video. There was virtually NO obesity problem in the armies of the 1860's. Lots of walking, lots of digging, and rations of questionable nutritional value by today's standards made for a thin soldier. Even pictures of generals in camp who led comparative lives of leisure (rode everywhere, officer's mess, beds to sleep in etc.) all save for a few had flat bellies. Just a thought. Keep up the good work.... And I challenge you in your travels to find a statue of a fat general! LOL
Ha! I'll be on the lookout. Thanks!
Outstanding....So much Civil War history ....Great vlog...Thanks....
Thanks!
I’ve been going there sense I was a little girl about 45 years. Back when this museum was the general train and a video only. Many great memories of my grandfather he loved the General he came from a long line of engineers from Georgia. Thanks for the memories.
Thanks for sharing!
Awesome!!!! When you entered the room with the General in I said WOW!! It's fantastic that they have that there. Makes me want to make a trip to Georgia.
Yeah, I was pretty blown away. Very cool artifact.
Its called "The Big Chicken" by us locals and is used as a landmark for giving driving instructions to travelers by the locals. The old one was replaced a few years back when they redesigned the restaurant and we all love it.
That thing was crazy. I can see how it would be a good landmark.
My son and I visited this museum and completed the "Andrews Raiders" tour in 2014. We had a blast! Great job, JD...
Nice! Got a few more Raiders spots coming up in the next few weeks.
Thank you for sharing your experiences with thos of of us that can't do what you do. I love living this through you.
My pleasure! Thanks for watching 🙂
I had no idea the General was still around! When I saw her, I actually said "Wow!" That is the coolest thing I've seen in a while. Thank you SO MUCH! -- BTW, if you ever get the time, watch Buster Keaton's The General. His best silent movie in my opinion. It's a very good watch. Funny and entertaining! His stunts are incredible!
I do need to see that movie. Thanks! Glad that you enjoyed it.
@@TheHistoryUnderground How he lived thru some of his stunts without being horrifically maimed or killed is a mystery. My fave silent star!
Yes, that's called "The Big Chicken," and it is a major landmark in the Atlanta area. It's actually in Marietta, and is used to give directions to people, all the time, i.e. "We're one mile north of the "Big Chicken."
Glad you toured this museum. It's the "Southern Museum of Civil War and Locomotive History." I would have included the full name in your title.
The Glover Machine works shut down and for many decades the old building never used again. When they went to check it out, they found all these molds and machinery left behind from ages ago and transferred some of them to the museum. When they updated and expanded the museum, it tripled in size, partly to accommodate the stuff from Glover.
Statues are fine in Museums. NO ONE should be opposed to it. It's part of our history and should not be forgotten. Now, taking them down from display the middle of cities is fine, but don't tear them down and destroy them. Again, it's part of history. You know the old saying: "Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it."
I am definitely going to make a trip to visit that museum. I first learned of the raid and the train chase was in high school in the 60's but had forgotten all about it. Thanks for jogging my memory. I seem to recall the leader of the raid was not awarded the MOH because he was a civilian. Thanks for another great video.
That is correct. I visited his grave in episode 69 (link in the description). Got some more Raider stuff coming up in the near future.
Martin J. Hawkins is one of the raiders. He is buried in Woodlawn Cemetery here in my home town. To see the very train he help steal and rode on is amazing. Stripping the mementos of our presence demeans all those of the past, and what they did. Sad.
Interesting!
Awesome depiction of history again :)! Thanks for taking us along
History tells us where we came from to get where we are today and a guide in where to continue in the future with the knowledge not to repeat many of the mistakes we have been through. I have subscribed to your history videos a few months ago. I thoroughly enjoy them learning much I didn't know.
Thanks!
Thank you for this video ! I am John Robert Pittenger , the Great Great Nephew of William Pittenger of Andrews Raiders . He wrote the book “ Daring and Suffering “ that the 1956 Walt Disney Movie about the raid was based on .
Another great video! The fact that these items are still here is fascinating. I get to travel all over the place and never have to leave home.🤣😂 Thanks, JD!
Glad you enjoyed!
The General was almost lost to history. After the war it continued in service and was eventually retired. About 1892 someone discovered it abandoned on a railroad siding. He knew its history and saved it from being scrapped. He probably didn't realize what a great thing he had contributed to history.
Luckiest day in a long time that I happened to stumble upon your channel!! So enjoyable. I especially like all the artifacts. Thank you for your time and patience doing these vids for us!!!!
Awesome, thank you!
Sunday I drove through a small town called Apple Creek Ohio and they have a monument there dedicated to William Knight. Love how history comes around full circle!
Nice!
The general is a beautiful train !! We have a print of Andrew's Raiders and the General. What a great museum 👌
Agreed!
Going back on the channel to binge watch…I love that the General is on display here! I have Pitinger’s diary. One of Andrew’s Raiders who lived!
Amazing that it survives. The story of how it was saved all these years would be interesting I am sure. Thanks for showing as much of the museum as you did. I think the statues are in a appropriate venue. I like the fact that they show both Union and Confederates.
Glad you enjoyed it
Amazing history here and great to see this after the grave site The train was amazing Thankyou
Glad you enjoyed it! We've still got a little more from Andrew's Raiders in the near future :)
Stumbled on your videos today, Cant stop watching them massive thumbs up.
Thank you! Glad you like them! Be sure to subscribe so that you can catch all of the new stuff when it comes out :)
Thank you for what you do.I enjoy the history.
Thanks for watching!
The big chicken! Directions are given in that area by locals according to the big chicken. "Turn left just past the big chicken."
I had just said to my daughter I needed my JD history fix and there you are...lol
Seeing The General was awesome!!! Another fantastic video 😎
Ha! That is awesome. Glad that I could deliver it up at the right time.
Great video ! The General is awesome looking ! Great Job 👍
Thank you! 👍
It's a part of history ! People need to get over what happened and try to learn from it so that we don't repeat it again !
All history is important.
Agreed
Cool video and the General was amazing! I've always been fascinated how heavy objects were manufactured and moved around in the 1800s. Here in CO there's still a fair amount of really heavy mining equipment from the 1880s+ in the middle of nowhere - such as big boilers and stamp mills. It's incredible. Thanks for another great pice of art JD.
Thanks! Appreciate that. I've been gaining a greater interest in manufacturing pieces like that.
Wow that was amazing what great museums there are in Georgia I never knew was there. I would love to see that train. I have to go down to Georgia to see all these places. How amazing thank you for showing us
I was pretty blown away by everything that they have to see down there. Definitely looking to go back.
Thank you for a very informative and interesting article on the General and the Raiders ! Take care , stay safe and healthy wherever your research or adventure takes you ! Doing well here in Kansas .
Thanks!
Love the video. My great grandfather is William Bensinger when I was a young boy my mother and father took me down to see the General. What a great experience just wish I was a little older so I could really understand what I was seeing. Thank you for your video
Totally awesome, thank you
Glad you liked it!
What a great museum. Love the General!!💕.
outstanding wow that train bigger than I thought thanks for today stay safe and take care.
Thanks 👍
That was absolutely fascinating!
I love your videos, and I always learn from you.I really appreciate all of your excellent content!
Johnston is on foot while Lee is on a horse.Lee always got the good stuff.
Ha!
Lee actually respected his horse much more so than other generals or people in general. He was a brilliant man with a good heart. Not every confederate was for slavery or destruction.
@@rhythmannblues1182 Lee was a slave holder and a traitor just like every southern politician and general. Lincoln was the best friend both sides would have had after the the war but the Confederate secrete service assassinated him and tried to kill his cabinet members . The confederates were no better than Caesar in Gaul or Stalin in the Ukraine.
Very cool to see The General!
I thought so too!
Can't believe The General locomotive still exists - let alone looking so good! I have to get back to Marietta in '23!
Pretty wild!
I live just up the way in Chattanooga and our history in linked to Marietta by Andrew's Raiders, as you mentioned. I love seeing people visiting Marietta and send people down there to get more information all the time. They have the original general, and Chattanooga has a replica.
Interestingly, Ringgold is very walkable to the downtown Chattanooga area. They were *so close.*
That was an awesome video! That train engine is beautiful!!
Seeing that train must have been awesome! The actual locomotive involved in one of the most thrilling events in all of US history!
I am so happy that your subscriber count keeps going up. You are doing awesome work and I am so happy to be a supporter. Awesome videos.
Thanks! I really do appreciate that. As long as people are getting some history, I’m happy. With that being said, I’m wondering if it’s possible to hit 100K by the end of the year.
@@TheHistoryUnderground You let me know if you're ever in West Michigan (Grand Rapids area). I'd love to sit down and have a beer sometime.
reguardless of opinion , it is history.let us remember that without history,history repeats itself.
Agreed.
Totally awesome video.History good and bad is still our history.Getting rid of statues doesn't change a thing.Literally stupid cancelling a t.v. show.It seems we have more to worry about than trying to change history.Thank you for the great adventure.☺💟👍🇺🇸
Yeah, the Dukes of Hazzard thing was a bit much. Hopefully we can all grow a little thicker skin and appreciate the good and not so good parts of history.
What an amazing museum!
I really enjoyed it.
That KFC is the Funniest & Craziest
thing I've ever seen 😂
Absolutely beautiful
Just brilliant! The Andrews Raid (what one author describes as 'a footnote on the pages of history') was the first story of the US Civil War that I ever learnt, and I've loved it ever since. As she stands today, I doubt little of the original 'General' remains bar the name plates - apart from damage during the burning of Atlanta, she was rebuilt several times during her active career - the same is true of most preserved steam locomotives in fact. None the less, she's still beautiful. Being slightly pedantic - the General, the Texas and their brethren are not 'trains', they are locomotives. The train is the rolling stock which runs behind them. That apart - brilliant, a real treat!
Great episode and wonderful museum! Just a thought about a good trip one day maybe fort Sumter and the H.L. Hunley Museum. Keep up the great work buddy.
Thanks! Those are definitely on the list.
@@TheHistoryUnderground Welcome. Cool deal
I see the statues as markers of history. We need history!
Wonderful video, thank you
Glad you enjoyed it
Oh, man! I'd like to see that museum and just explore that area! The General, what an awesome artifact! The Medal of Honor! Wow! If you ever get a chance watch the Buster Keaton movie "The General" it is a funny and fanciful telling of the incident. Thank you for the journey! Another great job!
I need to see that movie. I kind of think that a modern treatment of it would be cool too.
The Walt Disney version from 1956 is an authentic version of the Great Locomotive Chase
Contrary to popular belief, the Un Civil War was NOT fought over slavery. "The War of Northern Agression." Just found your channel, good coverage here Sir.
Hope you had time to include the Atlanta Historical Society museum on your trip. The Texas is displayed there and it is a very impressive museum.
Well, that was part of the plan until I was threatened by a less than awesome security guard. I'm going to try and make a contact there and make a return trip. It was a pretty cool place for sure.
I would suggest a visit to Cold Harbor battlefield in north Richmond. its haunting... my greatx3 grandfather died there.
When I first saw this video title I figured this was in regards to Andrews Raiders. Very cool... Most never heard of this story and the first Medals of honor came out of it. Another cool fact.. I’m pretty sure 19 servicemen have won it twice... crazy.
I used to have an old record that had sound recordings of the steam pump, bell and whistle of the General during its 1960's restoration. During the locomotives restoration it was converted over to burn fuel oil instead of wood. A display of wood was placed on the locomotives tender to cover up the oil bunker. There have been a couple of movie remakes of the great locomotive chase one of the better ones was produced by Walt Disney and featured a similar locomotive to the General called the William Mason from the B7O roundhouse museum in Baltimore Md.
Interesting!
Papaw lived down the road from the KFC there in Dallas. Used to love seeing that place as a kid on visits. Videos are awesome I never realized how big kennessaw mtn battlefield was.
My maternal grandfather was Harold Wollam, WW I & WW II Navy submariner and a grandson or great grandson of Pvt. John Wollam,, Ohio Infantry, one of the recipients of the M of H. John Wollam is also listed at the US Army Infantry Museum, at Ft Benning, Ga, in the Medal of Honor recipients section. I was able to visit there 3 years ago. US Army Viet Nam medic, ‘69-‘70
Wow! That is amazing.
Hahaha! I’m at this moment on TH-cam, watching “The General”, the 1926 Buster Keaton b/w silent movie 🎥🚂🤣
ha! Nice.
I love silent movies and Buster's were epic! Great movie!
@@rhythmannblues1182 To be honest, if it wasn’t for “The History Traveler” I wouldn’t have given this film title a second thought 😉🚂
@@glennwhittaker197 it isn't as action packed or as exciting as sone others of his but I like it because its a silent movie and apart of history. Keaton, himself, was an interesting man and had a rough life before and during his stardom.
However, it is pretty cool that this video gave you the idea to at least watch the movie.
@@rhythmannblues1182 I take it your name is Ann, you must know about the history of Charlie Chaplin then 😢🤩
I live right by that museum.
I can’t believe you found the great Demon Chicken of GA....We actually use that as a land mark to give directions....I lived there for years
Ha! That thing was awesome.
The General is very impressive!!
Very much so!
Gonna start sending you a bill for gasoline if you keep showing me cool things in places I’ve been. Gotta step up my research game when I go to these places. Another great video. If you ever get to Harrisburg PA, go to the National Civil War museum, Grants saddle box, only known surviving surgeons wagon, piece of the fence rail from the union line during Pickets charge, just to name a few things.
Ha! That’s hilarious. I’m going to put that museum on my ever growing list.
Designer: How cool do you want youre chicken to be?
Owner of KFC: yes
Ha! Biggest chicken I ever saw.
So cool bud .jamie 🇺🇸🏴👍
Thanks!
Verre interesting stuff there. But no daisy dukes on display??? 😁😁😁 on to the next place jd. Keep em coming
Ha! Thanks.
We can't erase history! Only learn from it!
Agreed.
That is really cool! I love history, both sides and just history in general. Moat people dont atop and think about the good that came out of a bad situation. Andrews and his men were amazing and really crazy for kidnapping a train.
I have seen several silent films on the General, to include Buster Keaton's movie but I never thought it was still in that great of condition and on display. I love those that prefer to share their travels with those that can't get to sites, this stupid virus or not. Thank you!!
Btw, I grew up watching The DoH and there was NOTHING controversial about it. Never any indication of favoring of color or whatever so, I think people are just sore and attacking everything for any reason they can think of. It was a great show and had morals in it. As opposed to some of the stuff on tv today that encourage much worse than running around in a car.
Anyways, I have enjoyed watching several of these videos and will pass them along as my step dad is also a history buff. THANK YOU!!!!
Yes, that was absolutely cool💪🏻🇺🇸👍🏻
Glad that you liked it!
This was so good.
Before everyone had a GPS they used the Big Chicken as the main landmark for directions. I grew up in Kennesaw but my Uncle's restaurant was just off the Marietta Square across the street from the Court House
I really really like your videos of history. I like your presentation and the music that you choose.
If I could afford to become a patron I would.
Thank you 😊😊
Welcome to my hometown! And yes we give directions using the Big Chicken 😂
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I used to live about an hour from Kennesaw. I've been atop Kennesaw Mountain a number of times. I've also been to Cheatam Hill, which isn't to be missed if you're a Civil War nerd or just like being in the woods. I'm both.
You think Murrieta is hot? Try Macon. Worse yet, try Valdosta or Savannah. Savannah also has bugs. LOTS of bugs. GA is still a beautiful state and well worth a visit.
Imagine if the Southern Confederate States had 25% of the Manufacturing that the Northern States had and more manpower for troops things could have gone another way in our Civil War. In 2022, I think there is too much elimination of some of the Southern Confederate Historical Memorability even though it represents a Sad Period of our history. I hope the current 'Retribution' doesn't go to the point in closing sites like these shown today. I don't support the "Lost Cause" Movement, nor do I condone the Slavery of a Proud Race of People from Africa. Their contribution and presence in this Country had been hidden and undervalued too long. We must Acknowledge, Remember & Learn for our Future. A New Englander. Another Great Video. Never disappoint. Thank you.
The General is actually in the museum in Kennesaw Georgia just north of Marietta at the area that was known as Big Shanty. The Texas Locomotive which chased the General was for many years in Atlanta's Grant Park in what was the Cyclorama which showed part of the battle of Atlanta in a diorama set in a circular room where you would be placed in the middle of the battle revolving around the painting while a person presenting the history of the Battle of Atlanta was pointing out certin parts of the diorama. The Texas locomotive was more in the basement of the two or three story building. Over the past 40 or so years the city didn't push the presence of the Cyclorama and the items inside of the building were getting into disrepair. Around five or six years ago, the city had plans to change the building for another use. The Atlanta History Center in Buckhead, another part of Atlanta, raised enough money to have the painting removed and repaired. Actually, part of the circular painting was removed so it could fit inside of the Cyclorama and upon relocating it to The History Center it was added back to the painting making it whole again. The Texas Locomotive was also removed and while they were constructing the addition to feature the painting and locomotive, it was gone over and put back in the shape it once was. So now the two locomotives are within about 40 miles of each other to tell of the history of the great event they are known for. Union Station in Chattanooga became the General’s permanent home in 1911 though still owned by the Western and Atlantic railroad. As a concession for a new lease for use of the W&A rail line, the Louisville and Nashville Railroad agreed to return the General to Georgia, but the city of Chattanooga filed suit against its loss. The matter went to the Sixth Federal District Court of Appeals, which ruled that the L&N could do whatever it wished. Chattanooga’s attempt to have that decision reversed failed when the U.S. Supreme Court refused to hear the appeal. In February of 1972 the General was moved back to Georgia and placed in the Big Shanty museum.
I made a correction on the location in the description. Thanks!
Loved this 👍🏻😎
Thanks 😁
I love all the statues
It's a shame that the Cyclorama in Grant Park in Atlanta was closed the General Lee used to be there
The train was known only as the General. The General Lee was the car in The Dukes of Hazzard.