I had all my gradings from white belt to 3rd Dan personally graded by Master Kanazawa...what an instructor, gentle , kind, with such presence and technical knowhow....
@Mistabutts If you have a chance to meet, train, test with Master Kanazawa, then you are very fortunate. If any human can truly master karate, he is the example. More importantly is his admirable character, a master of karate-do. In a world filled with brutality and banality, he is a rare example of a gentleman with great personal power. I keep his picture on my wall and his example in my heart.
I had the honour of training and grading with Kanazawa, Enoeda, Asano and Prof Morris (Jiu Jitzu) Looking back now, it seems like a dream! But.. There could only ever be one Hirokazu Kanazawa!
For Riyania: I trained with both starting in the 1960s, lived with Kanazawa Sensei. Enoeda was a high rank in another style, started all over in Shotokan, training very hard. Kanazawa has an astonishing mind, which gave him a strategic edge over many masters. In college, he slept 4 hours & spent much of the waking hours training. No one trains quite so hard now. Also, he was the most charismatic man of high character I have met, & that includes the 14 Japanese masters I've trained with.
I train Goju Ryu and found this video very interesting. Sensei Terry O'Neill came to our dojo yesterday as crazy as it sounds as he has had much one on one training with sensei morio higaonna and sensei Enoeda was his primary teacher. I gained a lot from what he had to say about Ippon Kumite and his stories regarding the past in general. Great Upload!!
One of the great rivalries in the martial arts world. Enoeda the blood line samurai and Kanazawa the commoner. Diametrically opposed in their personalities and attitude. Kanazawa the technician groomed to be the new head of the JKA and Enoeda the aggressive intimidating power house reported to have the hardest punch in japan and promoter of the fighting spirit. Kanazawa broke his arm while preparing for the 1st ever all Japan JKA karate championship, they disguised the fact that his arm was broke and he fought anyway using the broken arm as a faint to become the 1st every all Japan champion. (He reported that it felt so easy as if his opponents were all moving in slow motion) 2nd year he won it again but found it much more difficult. (the others had cottoned on and studied and trained in order to beat him) 3rd time he lost to Enoeda. Listening to Enoeda after a few drinks in the bar you could feel his underlying resentment that Kanazawa was always the higher ranking elder of the two. And to Quote Enoeda's words in the bar that night "in the end... I BEAT HIM !" As a child in the early 1970s I trained under Asano and my elder brothers took their ShoDan grades with Kanazawa and idolised him. As a adult After Kanazawa had quit the JKA to form SKI i trained with Enoeda and he graded me up to SanDan. And I proudly still wear the black belt with his name on it that he gave me. When they 1st came to England Kanazawa was the elder yet again and as the head of the JKA in England he had London while Enoeda went to Liverpool to develop the Red triangle with Andy Sherry, Terry Oneal, Bob Poynton, Billy Higgins and Bob Rhodes. ( the Liverpool Elite) So when Kanazawa Quit the JKA, Enoeda moved down to London to claim the spot of the JKA's chief Instructor for England and then eventually Europe. Enoeda... the only man I knew who could make you laugh and scare the hell out of you in the same sentence.
Thank for the so useful & beautiful information , i got examed for shodan and a year before he wn i was 1st kyu he referied me to the finals of 65 kgs against a sandan of wado r, 1 of my bigest regrets in life i stop karate due lifes obligations
I trained under Enoeda and Kanazawa at our Manchester dojo when they visited for gradings in the mid-60's. Kanazawa was the master technician and we watched spellbound at his Kata demonstrations. Enoeda... what can you say. He was power personified and had an uncanny aura. It was scary to see him snap a punch or kick at one of our unfortunate instructors and miss by a hairs breadth! I went on a course to Cullercoates held by Kanazawa, Enoeda and Andy Sherry and came back fitter than I have ever been in my life
@@geraldsanjuan884 I'm now an old boy of 73 Gerald. How time passes! I just wish I had kept up with all the stretching exercises we did when I was practising Karate
I first met Sensei Enoeda when I was 14, 45 years ago. at Dinner one night he mentioned this fight, he always had the utmost respect for Sensei Kanazawa and said this was one of the hardest fights he ever had.
I had Enoeda shihan as a teacher and long time later as examiner for my sandan. there are no gentlemen in karate. Enoeda was a warrior. may god rest his soul
This looks like a video made in London 1965, during a tour of 4 JKA masters, including these masters. I think it is an exhibition not a real competition kumite. Both senseis are great, legends (if you want to). There is no referee also stopping the action.Any how, if it is just an exhibition or not is beyond the point. I admire the technique and the quality of these two human beings.
This is a treat seeing Kancho Kanazawa execute his Tai Sabaki to his advantage. The SKIF Sensei I was under for a short time taught these drills which really helped in my timing. In this video both sense are equally fast, but Kanazawa uses space and distancing more effective.
@@Iloveyouverymuchkissandlove Many people trained with Enoeda. I did at a summer camp in the early 1990's. All the big JKA guys used to come to the US for various camps, and still do. And it is not unlikely to have trained with Kanazawa as well. I personally never did, but know of a number of JKA karateka who trained with him in Europe. He certainly would not have kicked you out of a dojo because you were JKA and not SKIF.
@@thomaskwiatkowskiesq.328 Mas allá de la politica y mas alla de todo prejuicio! Un verdadero maestro de la vida! Y tecnicamente uno de los mas grandes! Oss
The most beautiful karate kumite I've seen bar none. This is more than a fight, you can clearly see that they exchange feelings in each of their moves. Truly this made me want to practice shotokan once again, even after all these years...
Train with Kanazawa and Asano in the 70s. Kanazawa was easily the best ever from Japan. Won the all Japan title 5 times. One of them without losing a point.
@MariusWM Yes, Mr. Enoeda trained in Japan with another school and received a fairly high rank. He then observed Shotokan / JKA and decided to start over. Mind you, the first school where he trained was far better than so many of the modern "schools" in many locations throughout the world today. Still, he saw were scientific, stragetically practical karate was higher quality than various "styles" that people have come up with. He later proved it on more than one occasion defending himself.
I was graded 2nd dan by enoeda when I was 20 I'm now 64, this is true fighting not the bobbing about and only usin reverse punches, what's happened to true karate? It's all competition now what a shame it's all gone downhill
My first experience of training under a Japanese sensei was with Enoeda on a weekend session in 1965 at the Manchester Sports Guild. There were just a few of us and he had us doing throws on a concrete floor. This was real training without all the health and safety crap of nowadays. I was graded to temporary 8 kyu. I gave up over 40 years later due to health problems. I was also dissolutioned with the way Shotokan had become namby pamby touch if you dare sport orientated.
I"m old school also,,and have to admit,I"m envious of you,being able to train with these guys,I had the privilege to get my,San dan through Tsuroka,and had one summer camp with Sensei Tabata,,scary stuff,but something I will never forget
Enoeda sensei was my sensei and my godfather. I hold a 2nd dan. Kanazawa san and Enoeda San held a deep respect for each other. Rivals they were but when it comes down to legacy... both men enabled Shotokan Karate to become a force .. Enoeda, the tiger... literally due to his roar of a kiai and devastating mae Geri oi tsuki combo. Combined with a devastating ashi Barri mawashi combo. Powerful.... Kanazawa was tactical and fluid. Oss.
These men are truly the embodiment of karate-do. In the '60's they would visit and guest instruct at Mr. Nishiyama's dojo in LA where I trained which we certainly appreciated. While I have great respect for the memory of Mr. Enoeda, he was scary at times and his skills did not always match those of Mr. Kanazawa. Mr. Enoeda accidentally broke the jaw of one of our students while instructing one time and became personna non grata at our dojo - he was a very powerful man.
Doh! The side kick thrown by Kanazawa at 46 sec' BRILLIANT! Quality sparring. I read thar Kanazawa sensi won the Japan championships with a broken arm...throughout the whole tournament! Amazing.
@danzinnyman: That was interesting to me too, he attempted a takedown, it failed, so he rolled with his fall and turned the guy over so that he had a dominant position even after his failed attempt. Shows a very flowing mindset.
i trained at the red triangle liverpool during the sixties with sensei andy sherry bob poynton and terry oneil were only brown belts then although they would get involved in training i still have my old license with grading signatures from sensei kanazawa sensei enoeda and sensei sherry of which i am very proud
Yes. Kano invited Funakoshi to do a demonstration in the Kodokan. He also offered a job to Funakoshi by proposing an Atemi-Waza department in the Kodokan too. But Funakoshi politely declined because he wanted his art to flourish on its own. Some of Funakoshi's students trained with Ueshiba as well, such as Koishi, who founded the Shindo-Jinen -RYu school (Ryobu-Kai). Otsuka, founder of Wado-Ryu Karate-Do became a student of Funakoshi when he was already a respected Jujitsu master in Tokyo.
:34 I don't know which one was which, but that takedown was awesome! I love seeing the techniques under actual pressure! It gives you confirmation that this stuff is real! Excellent footage.
I had the privilege of training with both sensei's in this video, I preferred sensei Kanazawa to sensei Enoeda, he seemed less frightening, and as was mentioned previously, is a perfect gentleman. I recall one grading day at Carlton Forum, which was Asano sensei's honbu at the time, one guy had driven all the way from Scotland to Nottingham, to show up late after training had started, and Enoeda sent him home! A similar thing too, when he saw one guy yawn, he sent him home!
Kanazawa was the Chief Referee for my Championship Match Ozawa Cup. Mikami was a corner judge..... Never took a exam,Seminar or trained personally under Kanazawa but have strong lineage to Kanazawa.
I "trained" a little with them when they were conducting some gradings back in the days at Marshall Street (nr Carnaby Street in London). I actually found Sensei Kanazawa to be the scary one, rather more aggressive (in a good way) with his directions, whereas Sensei Enoeda was more the "elder statesman" who was a little quieter. But these were low level gradings and I never made it past 2nd Brown so I don't know how they were with advanced students.
+Tanel Kagan Kanazawa was 4 years older than Enoeda, and is, at the time of this writing, still alive, at 86. I had never been trained by either of them, but from what I read, Enoeda was rather charismatic. As to Kanazawa, I have not read about him being charismatic, but that he is very humble. So both masters had (has) something which people remember them for, besides their highest levels of skill.
I was a regular at marshal street, training with Sensei Enoeda,Andy Sherry, Bob Poynton ,terry o'neill and training there was among the best I ever had
@leocmen What text did you get that from? Why is this story, which can't be backed up by real, researched material always being passed around? Please let me know. Some of he credible resources I have are: Shotokan: A Precise History by Harry Cook. Karate-Do, My Way of Life by Gichin Funakoshi, Okinawan Karate-Do by Shoshin Nagamine, so on and so forth. They all say otherwise, so what are your sources. Gichin Funakoshi himself says that Jujitsu and Karate-Do are not the same.
@CLEVELEFS Yes, japanese jujitsu does have strikes. When people think of jujitsu they think only submissions, however it has strikes, submissions, holds and pressure point strikes.
Karate - do is from India, by way of China, by way of Okinawa, to be further refined in Japan after Funakoshi brought it over. Jujitsu is organic Japanese, as is Judo, Kendo.
I trained under Grace Millet and Shiro Asano used to grade us and I was in the Scotland squad and I also had the privilege to do courses under kanazawa also and they both were very nice and actually had a great sense of humour and although they look for perfectionism they also appreciated you trying your best.
BEST ANSWER on this subject: I do not like to get in the habit of saying one style is better than others. In regards to karate as a sport-I believe tournament compeition, that while it has some benefits, it does create a mindset and habits that will not work for actual combat. I also agree that when you can not attck the joints, eyes, throat, fingers, groin, etc that a true martial artist would not be able to effectively use their style. pomminsu 1 month ago
@123UncleRuckus Not to mention that Wado Ryu, one of the big four, is considered Jujutsu by the Shindo-Yoshin Ryu of Jujutsu, who consider it a descendant art of their Jujustu, due to a Jujutsuka creating it. And Goju Ryu has hefty Aiki-Jujutsu influence. And being more Japanese than the other styles, Shotokan Ryu has many throws shared with Judo. All Karate has plenty of grappling. And most Karateka wrestled anyway.
I would agree with ROCKY44. Both schools teach Japanese Shotokan Karate & both these fighters were JKA members at the time of this video(1974). JKA was founded in 1955 by Funakoshi. Kanazawa broke away & started his own organization in 1977(SKIF). So much depends on the quality of the instruction at the dojos near you as to which would be preferable. I started training JKA in the 60's - Kanazawa & Enoeda were 2 of many quality karate-ka produced by the JKA.
I was at a 3 day training session in The university with Asano, Kanazowa and Enoeda that was in the early seventies. i trained in Clifton under Harvey ( only name i ever knew him by ?)
When the opponent attempts a take down, it is very efficient to use your force when going down to tthrow him. I succeeded in doing so at my nidan grading 1½ years ago. By the way supervised by Kanazawa. :)
originally i did brazilian jiu jitsu then after that i was a very succesfull wrestler...so my fav part of this video is at 00:15 when you see the takedown to reversal thank you for posting this video
@danzinnyman: That is a very good point about clothing in street fighting. Every once in a while, martial artists always need to practice in what they wear in every day situations.
@ndileonardo I do have four of Funakoshi's translated books: Karate-Do Kyohan, Karate-Do Nyumon, Karate-Do: My Way of Life, and his first book, To-Te Jitsu. I'm a history student and I love Karate-Do history, not just Shotokan but the other styles as well. I think its important not to generalize things, especially in the martial arts because the work and recognition of many great teachers get diluted and forgotten, along with valuable lessons such as kata application and its real purpose.
Thank you for your many comments ,I have much to learn. I trained under 1 of Shihan Dover teachers in New Zealand many years ago. 1 class I attended their were 6 Master's, 1 master that came to train us was 1 of the 100 fighting monks of Kung Fu. I was trained in Okinawa Te Karate many years ago. I still have my old black Gi n the old stories told to me.
@ndileonardo To say Japanese Karate came from Jujitsu would be wrong. Jujitsu may have some influences over Karate , after it was introduced to Japan. The Okinawans had there own knowledge of grappling (most evident in traditional Okinawa styles like Goju-Ryu), but Funakoshi himself explicitly differentiates both in his book, Karate-Do My Way of Life. Otsuka and Konishi were both early students of Funakoshi and masters of Judo/Jujitsu, but they did not control Shotokan curriculum.
this is actually jiu kumite and not competition, enoeda sensei is amazing like always i love him but kanazawa is kanazawa he was always the best and here is very clear his superiority
@stefrees10 both organizations are Shotokan. JKA is the first Shotokan organization, and Kanazawa was part of it until he was hit with the proposal to become chief instructor of SKIF. I train with two instructors in my town, one who has 4 dans in JKA, and the other 2 dans in SKIF. Whit the JKA instructor we do almost just kumite and kumite techniques. For a beginner I would not recomand that. From kumite you can't learn form and you don't develop strenght and mobility.
I read about Enoeda and Kanazawa asking for training Yochoku Higa (shorin ryu kyudokan founder, 1910-1994, and he refused Enoeda for his characterial actitude). took this from Mark Bishop's Okinawan Karate book.
@leocmen Correction to my original post... The student was Konishi, who was a captain of his college boxing team, as well as a Jujitsu practioner, before he started learning Karate-Do from Funakoshi. He later trained with Ueshiba and learned Aikido. He started the school Shindo Jinen Ryu (Ryobukai) which is also part of the Japan Karate Federation (JKF)
@CLEVELEFS I know, you make a valid point about the ground game on the streets, and of course no one is expecting to hit kimura when on the streets (hopefully) unless they really know they can do it. However, I've played tapout with a few BJJ guys and let me tell you it is annoying as hell. You have to be tentative, and once they get going, they smother you and it feels like you are being suffocated. It's an eerie feeling and that's why you see all the videos of Karate practitioners
It's interesting how, through the lack of big gloves and the danger of the takedown, the guard seems to naturally have dropped considerably lower than what you would see in boxing, kickboxing or muay thai. Which is kind of something you also see in MMA here and there.
These guys could land lethal strikes. You combine that with the ethos of 'one punch kill' and 'no first move' and you end up with very quick exchanges. There's lots and lots of good karate in that I think, although I'm only a novice I admit. Besides, what reason would these guys have to stage kumite? It's not like they're afraid of being hit or anything...
Not to split hairs with you since most people don't care about these details but before I replied on this subject I checked the SKIF website & it says that Mr. Kanazawa founded SKIF in 1977. The SKIEF website says that Kanazawa & others incuding Mr. Asano founded SKIEF in 1974.
@torro454 Enoeda Sensei did Judo, not Jujutsu, and Enoeda Sensei has a posthumous 9th dan, not 10th dan, you don't get an automatic 10th dan when you die. And Kanazawa also did Judo, not Jujutsu. I was incorrect in stating they only had Karate experience, because they studied Judo at school.
Dude...read Funakoshi's own books. The martial arts we practice today came from the Shaolin temple, where the monks were trained by an Indian warrior. The styles moved eastward and integrated with LESS FORMAL fighting styles . From there, the styles evolved on their own. Do not get too hung up on dogma. Martial arts are martial arts...
The problem with that is that the jujitsu fighter has to FIRST get his hands on one of them. Back in this time, karate students were taught enough ground fighting techniques to get back on their feet.
@ndileonardo I know what Bodhidharma did in China, but to say Chinese fighting systems would not evolve without his influence is too much of a broad speculation. Despite what Funakoshi had said, its hard to trace it to India simply through its ties to the origins of Shaolin. If I mix boxing, BJJ and Karate, which I had learned in America, do I say that the history of my style comes from different countries, or from America? So to say Karate came from India?
@sfkcbf I'd say the mma and kickboxing pros train extremely hard everyday for years and years. Most of the hardcore dedicated people moved away from karate into the contact arts starting in the late seventies when Karate went more mainstream.
@R0CKY44 He was not as small as many Japanese men either,as was the case with Asano sensei, whereby Kase, Kobara, (sometimes spelt Obara ) Kanazawa himself, and many other visiting sensei, the names of whom escape me at the minute, were of a slighter smaller stature. Odd that I recall all of them whose name began with K,,,,,,,,,,
This was in no way intended to discredit Mr. Enoeda but only to show the intensity of the man and that even a master can make a mistake and how we all need to be careful. While the power and intensity of Enoeda was scary at times it was also inspiring - this was a man you definately did not want to fuck with. The Japanese at that time came from a very brutal karate environment - they trained hard and injuries were common.
I had all my gradings from white belt to 3rd Dan personally graded by Master Kanazawa...what an instructor, gentle , kind, with such presence and technical knowhow....
@Mistabutts If you have a chance to meet, train, test with Master Kanazawa, then you are very fortunate. If any human can truly master karate, he is the example. More importantly is his admirable character, a master of karate-do. In a world filled with brutality and banality, he is a rare example of a gentleman with great personal power. I keep his picture on my wall and his example in my heart.
I had the honour of training and grading with Kanazawa, Enoeda, Asano and Prof Morris (Jiu Jitzu)
Looking back now, it seems like a dream!
But.. There could only ever be one Hirokazu Kanazawa!
For Riyania: I trained with both starting in the 1960s, lived with Kanazawa Sensei. Enoeda was a high rank in another style, started all over in Shotokan, training very hard. Kanazawa has an astonishing mind, which gave him a strategic edge over many masters. In college, he slept 4 hours & spent much of the waking hours training. No one trains quite so hard now. Also, he was the most charismatic man of high character I have met, & that includes the 14 Japanese masters I've trained with.
In his college years... wow. Im imagining Kananzawa san being a youth now, training hard that image is very moving and encouraging.
I train Goju Ryu and found this video very interesting. Sensei Terry O'Neill came to our dojo yesterday as crazy as it sounds as he has had much one on one training with sensei morio higaonna and sensei Enoeda was his primary teacher. I gained a lot from what he had to say about Ippon Kumite and his stories regarding the past in general. Great Upload!!
One of the great rivalries in the martial arts world.
Enoeda the blood line samurai and Kanazawa the commoner. Diametrically opposed in their personalities and attitude.
Kanazawa the technician groomed to be the new head of the JKA and Enoeda the aggressive intimidating power house reported to have the hardest punch in japan and promoter of the fighting spirit.
Kanazawa broke his arm while preparing for the 1st ever all Japan JKA karate championship, they disguised the fact that his arm was broke and he fought anyway using the broken arm as a faint to become the 1st every all Japan champion.
(He reported that it felt so easy as if his opponents were all moving in slow motion)
2nd year he won it again but found it much more difficult. (the others had cottoned on and studied and trained in order to beat him)
3rd time he lost to Enoeda.
Listening to Enoeda after a few drinks in the bar you could feel his underlying resentment that Kanazawa was always the higher ranking elder of the two.
And to Quote Enoeda's words in the bar that night "in the end... I BEAT HIM !"
As a child in the early 1970s I trained under Asano and my elder brothers took their ShoDan grades with Kanazawa and idolised him.
As a adult After Kanazawa had quit the JKA to form SKI i trained with Enoeda and he graded me up to SanDan. And I proudly still wear the black belt with his name on it that he gave me.
When they 1st came to England Kanazawa was the elder yet again and as the head of the JKA in England he had London while Enoeda went to Liverpool to develop the Red triangle with Andy Sherry, Terry Oneal, Bob Poynton, Billy Higgins and Bob Rhodes. ( the Liverpool Elite)
So when Kanazawa Quit the JKA, Enoeda moved down to London to claim the spot of the JKA's chief Instructor for England and then eventually Europe.
Enoeda... the only man I knew who could make you laugh and scare the hell out of you in the same sentence.
Thank for the so useful & beautiful information , i got examed for shodan and a year before he wn i was 1st kyu he referied me to the finals of 65 kgs against a sandan of wado r, 1 of my bigest regrets in life i stop karate due lifes obligations
I trained under Enoeda and Kanazawa at our Manchester dojo when they visited for gradings in the mid-60's. Kanazawa was the master technician and we watched spellbound at his Kata demonstrations. Enoeda... what can you say. He was power personified and had an uncanny aura. It was scary to see him snap a punch or kick at one of our unfortunate instructors and miss by a hairs breadth! I went on a course to Cullercoates held by Kanazawa, Enoeda and Andy Sherry and came back fitter than I have ever been in my life
@@transcol4 how young are you?
@@geraldsanjuan884 I'm now an old boy of 73 Gerald. How time passes! I just wish I had kept up with all the stretching exercises we did when I was practising Karate
My Sensei’s father was a pupil of Enoeda and Kanazawa with the Red Triangle Club of Liverpool.
I first met Sensei Enoeda when I was 14, 45 years ago. at Dinner one night he mentioned this fight, he always had the utmost respect for Sensei Kanazawa and said this was one of the hardest fights he ever had.
I had Enoeda shihan as a teacher and long time later as examiner for my sandan. there are no gentlemen in karate. Enoeda was a warrior. may god rest his soul
This looks like a video made in London 1965, during a tour of 4 JKA masters, including these masters. I think it is an exhibition not a real competition kumite. Both senseis are great, legends (if you want to). There is no referee also stopping the action.Any how, if it is just an exhibition or not is beyond the point. I admire the technique and the quality of these two human beings.
This is a treat seeing Kancho Kanazawa execute his Tai Sabaki to his advantage. The SKIF Sensei I was under for a short time taught these drills which really helped in my timing. In this video both sense are equally fast, but Kanazawa uses space and distancing more effective.
Wow. Two of the greatest of all time in the ring together...!
not to be funny...... but my dad actually trained with Enoeda.... and he said that he was a machine!!!
I trained with Enoeda Sensei, he was a machine in the sense that he was unparralleled. I also trained with Kanazawa Sensei, he was unparralleled too.
@@zoelake8573 as if
@@Iloveyouverymuchkissandlove Many people trained with Enoeda. I did at a summer camp in the early 1990's. All the big JKA guys used to come to the US for various camps, and still do. And it is not unlikely to have trained with Kanazawa as well. I personally never did, but know of a number of JKA karateka who trained with him in Europe. He certainly would not have kicked you out of a dojo because you were JKA and not SKIF.
Enoeda Sensei is said to have had the most powerful gyaku zuki in Japan at his time.
Really he is a machine.
@@thomaskwiatkowskiesq.328 Mas allá de la politica y mas alla de todo prejuicio! Un verdadero maestro de la vida! Y tecnicamente uno de los mas grandes! Oss
The most beautiful karate kumite I've seen bar none. This is more than a fight, you can clearly see that they exchange feelings in each of their moves. Truly this made me want to practice shotokan once again, even after all these years...
Hell yes, how it should be done! Love the sutemi near the start
Thanks for posting this rare footage... Look how high they start off... the down to business! Great stuff!
Train with Kanazawa and Asano in the 70s. Kanazawa was easily the best ever from Japan. Won the all Japan title 5 times. One of them without losing a point.
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@MariusWM Yes, Mr. Enoeda trained in Japan with another school and received a fairly high rank. He then observed Shotokan / JKA and decided to start over. Mind you, the first school where he trained was far better than so many of the modern "schools" in many locations throughout the world today. Still, he saw were scientific, stragetically practical karate was higher quality than various "styles" that people have come up with. He later proved it on more than one occasion defending himself.
I was graded 2nd dan by enoeda when I was 20 I'm now 64, this is true fighting not the bobbing about and only usin reverse punches, what's happened to true karate? It's all competition now what a shame it's all gone downhill
This bobbing makes Karate look funny.
My first experience of training under a Japanese sensei was with Enoeda on a weekend session in 1965 at the Manchester Sports Guild. There were just a few of us and he had us doing throws on a concrete floor. This was real training without all the health and safety crap of nowadays. I was graded to temporary 8 kyu. I gave up over 40 years later due to health problems. I was also dissolutioned with the way Shotokan had become namby pamby touch if you dare sport orientated.
I trained at the MSG as well. Our instructor was a guy called Norman , he had a mate called Tony. Don't know if that rings any bells?
2 PROPER karate legends!
thanks for posting
I"m old school also,,and have to admit,I"m envious of you,being able to train with these guys,I had the privilege to get my,San dan through Tsuroka,and had one summer camp with Sensei Tabata,,scary stuff,but something I will never forget
Kanazawa did my first ever Grading back when I was 6 or 7 years old. His signature has a volcano shape in it. Seems like forever ago now
You're are trully blessed to experience that, now he met his eternal sleep, no one can see him anymore.
Enoeda sensei was my sensei and my godfather. I hold a 2nd dan. Kanazawa san and Enoeda San held a deep respect for each other. Rivals they were but when it comes down to legacy... both men enabled Shotokan Karate to become a force ..
Enoeda, the tiger... literally due to his roar of a kiai and devastating mae Geri oi tsuki combo. Combined with a devastating ashi Barri mawashi combo. Powerful....
Kanazawa was tactical and fluid.
Oss.
These men are truly the embodiment of karate-do. In the '60's they would visit and guest instruct at Mr. Nishiyama's dojo in LA where I trained which we certainly appreciated. While I have great respect for the memory of Mr. Enoeda, he was scary at times and his skills did not always match those of Mr. Kanazawa. Mr. Enoeda accidentally broke the jaw of one of our students while instructing one time and became personna non grata at our dojo - he was a very powerful man.
Always wondered what would happen when two karate legends go at it. Thanks for the post.
Forget who is part of which organisation...both these men were and still are legends in the martial arts world.
Doh! The side kick thrown by Kanazawa at 46 sec' BRILLIANT! Quality sparring. I read thar Kanazawa sensi won the Japan championships with a broken arm...throughout the whole tournament! Amazing.
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@danzinnyman: That was interesting to me too, he attempted a takedown, it failed, so he rolled with his fall and turned the guy over so that he had a dominant position even after his failed attempt. Shows a very flowing mindset.
anticipation, speed, technique, great video
i trained at the red triangle liverpool during the sixties with sensei andy sherry bob poynton and terry oneil were only brown belts then although they would get involved in training i still have my old license with grading signatures from sensei kanazawa sensei enoeda and sensei sherry of which i am very proud
Masterful karate-do. A match between a bull & a leopard. As good as it gets...
O SENSEI É MUITO BOM....
O QUE EU NÃO DARIA PRA TER UMA AULA COM ELE......
Yes. Kano invited Funakoshi to do a demonstration in the Kodokan. He also offered a job to Funakoshi by proposing an Atemi-Waza department in the Kodokan too. But Funakoshi politely declined because he wanted his art to flourish on its own. Some of Funakoshi's students trained with Ueshiba as well, such as Koishi, who founded the Shindo-Jinen -RYu school (Ryobu-Kai). Otsuka, founder of Wado-Ryu Karate-Do became a student of Funakoshi when he was already a respected Jujitsu master in Tokyo.
The Tiger and the Dragon?
I'm Glad that sensei enoeda, sensei mori, sensei kanazawa and many other famous karate names have taught my sensei.
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I don't know which one was which, but that takedown was awesome! I love seeing the techniques under actual pressure! It gives you confirmation that this stuff is real! Excellent footage.
I had the privilege of training with both sensei's in this video, I preferred sensei Kanazawa to sensei Enoeda, he seemed less frightening, and as was mentioned previously, is a perfect gentleman.
I recall one grading day at Carlton Forum, which was Asano sensei's honbu at the time, one guy had driven all the way from Scotland to Nottingham, to show up late after training had started, and Enoeda sent him home! A similar thing too, when he saw one guy yawn, he sent him home!
Kanazawa was the Chief Referee for my Championship Match Ozawa Cup. Mikami was a corner judge..... Never took a exam,Seminar or trained personally under Kanazawa but have strong lineage to Kanazawa.
This shows they were either very good friends or extremely respectful foes, OSU
Sư phụ ra đòn thật dũng mãnh và chắc chắn.
I "trained" a little with them when they were conducting some gradings back in the days at Marshall Street (nr Carnaby Street in London). I actually found Sensei Kanazawa to be the scary one, rather more aggressive (in a good way) with his directions, whereas Sensei Enoeda was more the "elder statesman" who was a little quieter.
But these were low level gradings and I never made it past 2nd Brown so I don't know how they were with advanced students.
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Kanazawa was 4 years older than Enoeda, and is, at the time of this writing, still alive, at 86. I had never been trained by either of them, but from what I read, Enoeda was rather charismatic.
As to Kanazawa, I have not read about him being charismatic, but that he is very humble.
So both masters had (has) something which people remember them for, besides their highest levels of skill.
I was a regular at marshal street, training with Sensei Enoeda,Andy Sherry, Bob Poynton ,terry o'neill and training there was among the best I ever had
I have feeling like i watch goku vs vegeta...total respect ! I wish i met them...
Legenda!!!! Best karate!!!
@leocmen What text did you get that from? Why is this story, which can't be backed up by real, researched material always being passed around? Please let me know. Some of he credible resources I have are: Shotokan: A Precise History by Harry Cook. Karate-Do, My Way of Life by Gichin Funakoshi, Okinawan Karate-Do by Shoshin Nagamine, so on and so forth. They all say otherwise, so what are your sources. Gichin Funakoshi himself says that Jujitsu and Karate-Do are not the same.
Thank you for the answer. Incredible video! I'm nearly sad that it lasts only 55 seconds.
@CLEVELEFS Yes, japanese jujitsu does have strikes. When people think of jujitsu they think only submissions, however it has strikes, submissions, holds and pressure point strikes.
0:33 freakin amazing ashi barai by Kanazawa sensei
Master Kanazawa And Enoeda, Amazing
i wish karate was still like this.. in america but it would be out of bisness by then :(
well i guess there is still some of them out their
Karate - do is from India, by way of China, by way of Okinawa, to be further refined in Japan after Funakoshi brought it over. Jujitsu is organic Japanese, as is Judo, Kendo.
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wow to see two masters spar with each other!
I trained under Grace Millet and Shiro Asano used to grade us and I was in the Scotland squad and I also had the privilege to do courses under kanazawa also and they both were very nice and actually had a great sense of humour and although they look for perfectionism they also appreciated you trying your best.
BEST ANSWER on this subject: I do not like to get in the habit of saying one style is better than others. In regards to karate as a sport-I believe tournament compeition, that while it has some benefits, it does create a mindset and habits that will not work for actual combat. I also agree that when you can not attck the joints, eyes, throat, fingers, groin, etc that a true martial artist would not be able to effectively use their style.
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@123UncleRuckus Not to mention that Wado Ryu, one of the big four, is considered Jujutsu by the Shindo-Yoshin Ryu of Jujutsu, who consider it a descendant art of their Jujustu, due to a Jujutsuka creating it.
And Goju Ryu has hefty Aiki-Jujutsu influence.
And being more Japanese than the other styles, Shotokan Ryu has many throws shared with Judo.
All Karate has plenty of grappling. And most Karateka wrestled anyway.
My heros....
I would agree with ROCKY44. Both schools teach Japanese Shotokan Karate & both these fighters were JKA members at the time of this video(1974). JKA was founded in 1955 by Funakoshi. Kanazawa broke away & started his own organization in 1977(SKIF). So much depends on the quality of the instruction at the dojos near you as to which would be preferable. I started training JKA in the 60's - Kanazawa & Enoeda were 2 of many quality karate-ka produced by the JKA.
I was at a 3 day training session in The university with Asano, Kanazowa and Enoeda that was in the early seventies. i trained in Clifton under Harvey ( only name i ever knew him by ?)
When the opponent attempts a take down, it is very efficient to use your force when going down to tthrow him. I succeeded in doing so at my nidan grading 1½ years ago. By the way supervised by Kanazawa. :)
Legend Senseis ! 🥋Oss
wow! so incredibly explosive, inspiring to watch, thank you for sharing.
Demo of a sweep and a roundhouse kick with the same leg.
originally i did brazilian jiu jitsu then after that i was a very succesfull wrestler...so my fav part of this video is at 00:15 when you see the takedown to reversal thank you for posting this video
Cool mix with the judo moves ........... interesting
@danzinnyman: That is a very good point about clothing in street fighting. Every once in a while, martial artists always need to practice in what they wear in every day situations.
I trained with Kanazawa whenever I could and received my Shodan from him.
@ndileonardo I do have four of Funakoshi's translated books: Karate-Do Kyohan, Karate-Do Nyumon, Karate-Do: My Way of Life, and his first book, To-Te Jitsu. I'm a history student and I love Karate-Do history, not just Shotokan but the other styles as well. I think its important not to generalize things, especially in the martial arts because the work and recognition of many great teachers get diluted and forgotten, along with valuable lessons such as kata application and its real purpose.
Thank you for your many comments ,I have much to learn.
I trained under 1 of Shihan Dover teachers in New Zealand many years ago.
1 class I attended their were 6 Master's, 1 master that came to train us was 1 of the 100 fighting monks of Kung Fu.
I was trained in Okinawa Te Karate many years ago.
I still have my old black Gi n the old stories told to me.
@ndileonardo To say Japanese Karate came from Jujitsu would be wrong. Jujitsu may have some influences over Karate , after it was introduced to Japan. The Okinawans had there own knowledge of grappling (most evident in traditional Okinawa styles like Goju-Ryu), but Funakoshi himself explicitly differentiates both in his book, Karate-Do My Way of Life. Otsuka and Konishi were both early students of Funakoshi and masters of Judo/Jujitsu, but they did not control Shotokan curriculum.
this is actually jiu kumite and not competition, enoeda sensei is amazing like always i love him but kanazawa is kanazawa he was always the best and here is very clear his superiority
@stefrees10 both organizations are Shotokan. JKA is the first Shotokan organization, and Kanazawa was part of it until he was hit with the proposal to become chief instructor of SKIF. I train with two instructors in my town, one who has 4 dans in JKA, and the other 2 dans in SKIF. Whit the JKA instructor we do almost just kumite and kumite techniques. For a beginner I would not recomand that. From kumite you can't learn form and you don't develop strenght and mobility.
two tiger, two legend. -amazing
I read about Enoeda and Kanazawa asking for training Yochoku Higa (shorin ryu kyudokan founder, 1910-1994, and he refused Enoeda for his characterial actitude).
took this from Mark Bishop's Okinawan Karate book.
@leocmen Correction to my original post... The student was Konishi, who was a captain of his college boxing team, as well as a Jujitsu practioner, before he started learning Karate-Do from Funakoshi. He later trained with Ueshiba and learned Aikido. He started the school Shindo Jinen Ryu (Ryobukai) which is also part of the Japan Karate Federation (JKF)
i think some of the film was removed, because it's not the same background (it flickered)
Holy crap! Look at the speed of that front kick at :47!!!!
thank you 4 this upload, this is karate at its finest! do u have more footage like this in stock??
Possibly, I need to go through all my old DVDs.
R0CKY44 ok thanks for your answer!
JESUS! WHEN YOU AVOID KANAZAWA'S MAWASHI, YOU KNOW YOU RE GOOOOOOD!!!!!
@CLEVELEFS I know, you make a valid point about the ground game on the streets, and of course no one is expecting to hit kimura when on the streets (hopefully) unless they really know they can do it. However, I've played tapout with a few BJJ guys and let me tell you it is annoying as hell. You have to be tentative, and once they get going, they smother you and it feels like you are being suffocated. It's an eerie feeling and that's why you see all the videos of Karate practitioners
God great, a true legend fight!
It's interesting how, through the lack of big gloves and the danger of the takedown, the guard seems to naturally have dropped considerably lower than what you would see in boxing, kickboxing or muay thai. Which is kind of something you also see in MMA here and there.
Why do you think they let their arms down?
This maybe an exhibition match and are promoting their arrogance which show in their posture
Super amazing！！！
@apogiato, the one who executed mawashi was enoeda, it was kanazawa who dogded.
These guys could land lethal strikes. You combine that with the ethos of 'one punch kill' and 'no first move' and you end up with very quick exchanges. There's lots and lots of good karate in that I think, although I'm only a novice I admit. Besides, what reason would these guys have to stage kumite? It's not like they're afraid of being hit or anything...
Awesome!!!!
when was this taken? what were there dan ranks back then?
Not to split hairs with you since most people don't care about these details but before I replied on this subject I checked the SKIF website & it says that Mr. Kanazawa founded SKIF in 1977. The SKIEF website says that Kanazawa & others incuding Mr. Asano founded SKIEF in 1974.
Do you know when this was? Is it at the JKA All Japan Championship?
@torro454 Enoeda Sensei did Judo, not Jujutsu, and Enoeda Sensei has a posthumous 9th dan, not 10th dan, you don't get an automatic 10th dan when you die. And Kanazawa also did Judo, not Jujutsu.
I was incorrect in stating they only had Karate experience, because they studied Judo at school.
Dude...read Funakoshi's own books. The martial arts we practice today came from the Shaolin temple, where the monks were trained by an Indian warrior. The styles moved eastward and integrated with LESS FORMAL fighting styles . From there, the styles evolved on their own. Do not get too hung up on dogma. Martial arts are martial arts...
The problem with that is that the jujitsu fighter has to FIRST get his hands on one of them. Back in this time, karate students were taught enough ground fighting techniques to get back on their feet.
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@ndileonardo I know what Bodhidharma did in China, but to say Chinese fighting systems would not evolve without his influence is too much of a broad speculation. Despite what Funakoshi had said, its hard to trace it to India simply through its ties to the origins of Shaolin. If I mix boxing, BJJ and Karate, which I had learned in America, do I say that the history of my style comes from different countries, or from America? So to say Karate came from India?
@sfkcbf I'd say the mma and kickboxing pros train extremely hard everyday for years and years. Most of the hardcore dedicated people moved away from karate into the contact arts starting in the late seventies when Karate went more mainstream.
@sfkcbf WHat do you mean Enoeda was high ranking in another style? Did he train something else than Shotokan at first?
In fact Enoeda was a 2nd Dan at Judo before he even started Karate.
@R0CKY44 He was not as small as many Japanese men either,as was the case with Asano sensei, whereby Kase, Kobara, (sometimes spelt Obara ) Kanazawa himself, and many other visiting sensei, the names of whom escape me at the minute, were of a slighter smaller stature. Odd that I recall all of them whose name began with K,,,,,,,,,,
This was in no way intended to discredit Mr. Enoeda but only to show the intensity of the man and that even a master can make a mistake and how we all need to be careful. While the power and intensity of Enoeda was scary at times it was also inspiring - this was a man you definately did not want to fuck with. The Japanese at that time came from a very brutal karate environment - they trained hard and injuries were common.
Who has video of Frank Smith?
In my opinion it wasn't a real fight, more a demonstration.
Nice to see though.