Commodore Amiga CD32 - Fifth VideoGame Generation Recap - Adam Koralik
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This is a discussion topic video about the fifth generation of videogame consoles. This will be part two of my seven part mini-series. Here we will discuss the Commodore Amiga CD32, the second entry in to the fifth generation of game consoles. - เกม
"You don't have to be named Nintendo to make a buck in the industry"
Tiger electronics proved that for us.
Homer sams HA, that is so...so true.
The ironic thing for me is I could never find a boxed CD32 in the UK and ended up buying one from Canada :D
hey i watch your vids.
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Thanks dude :) Hopefully you like them too!
“It looks exactly how the 80’s would’ve depicted the future” 😂
The Amiga line of 16 bit computers was actually hugely popular in UK and Europe, as popular as the Megadrive and SNES. In fact I sold my Megadrive for an A600 in the day. Great video btw, Commodore really could have been a big player if they were ran properly, their tech was often ahead of the curve.
Also as someone else has posted being basically an Amiga1200 with no keyboard and CD drive this console had many many developers on side and also a potentially huge startup games library sitting there for conversion, shame it went to soon😔
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That's true. Many people here in Germany had an Amiga Computer. Also the C64 was very famous here. In my schooltime when the SNES and Mega Drive were famous the kids also shared floppy discs with Commodore 64 games in break time.
In Poland this was the S**T! The thing is that due to the whole iron curtain business there were practically no consoles here, so we missed the Atari and the NES (however we got a certain superb famiclone), and gaming on computers was huge, especially C64, Speccy and Atari XL/XE. But the queen of them all was the Amiga. The Amiga was the wet dream of everyone who had any interest in computers. And then this thing came out, and me in my cousin were drooling so hard over the ads in magazines, but unfortunately we couldn't afford one, and then of course commodore got themselves out of business and everyone switched to Windows PCs. But if I had the money, I would SO have gotten one of those... ah, good times...
+matzieq funny cuz pc gaming is still really popular in that part of Europe. thats what i hear anyway lol
True :) powiedziałeś jak jest, niczym mariusz max kolonko
While you imagine the CD 32 being the third person in the console wars, I'll keep thinking about how the turbografx 16 could have been a success if it was released in America around the same time of its Japanese release and not 2 years later.
I remember seeing this in the shops in the uk and wanting one. We had no idea of the troubles of Commodore USA at the time. Over here Amiga was king over snes and megadrive/genysis i couldnt believe when they went bust and ended up with a 3do from my parents. Now i retro bought an a1200 because of the great memorys of the a500 i had back in the day.
Gamester81 has an NTSC Amiga CD32. Of course he does.
Plus Gamester81 talked about the Easter egg in the system. You can change the video signal from PAL to NTSC using the Amiga Mouse.
I guess I'm lucky that I had one of these as a kid. We live in the UK and my dad love amiga PC's, so did I. Great console.
Loved this console... I had a paragon SX1 module for it, where you attached a keyboard, mouse AND floppy disk drive to it, so it could fully function as an Amiga 1200.
Defining games which were designed for the console were Microcosm and Liberation. From what I remember, both were ported to the A1200 but they were originally designed for the CD32. Good times with those two!
As a Amiga user I’ve wanted a CD32 for years
When I was living in Maple Ridge, BC around 1993 I actually did see a CD32. In a bank. It was being used to run some kind of multimedia presentation that was looping on the TVs in there. Regrettably I was still a kid at the time so I can't really remember what the presentation was about. And that was the only time I ever saw one.
Or should I say, I saw the CD32 *logo*, every time the video reached the end, before it looped back to the beginning. What a mysterious console.
Boy I'm addicted to these generation recap series Adam good stuff brother I learned a shitload of stuff. Thanks for this.
Recently found your Chanel and been binge watching it! Love the history’s for each console and company thanks so much dude
As a new CD32 owner I enjoyed hearing your thoughts on the system. Neat that the NTSC conversion is nice and simple
Thanks for watching!
MN12bird was the first gaming channel I subscribed to when I made my account in 2008
Me too.
The amiga cd32 is a fascinating system alot of the great game developers from the UK started their early careers with the amiga and the games were playable on the cd32. Such a shame commodore ran out of money and couldn't keep the system going.
One of my friends back in the 90's had one in the USA. From what I have gathered, the units sold in Canada were mostly sold out to Americans. He got his from a Canadian Commodore reseller, this may be why you rarely see them in Canada itself. Also, many of the games released for it were of course Amiga 1200 games, but many also added CD audio tracks, usually just the regular tracker music recorded on CDA. StarDust on the CD32 is a must get! If only for the sound track, that you can easily rip to MP3.
I love these recaps Adam. It's fun hearing the history of consoles both familiar and unfamiliar to me. Keep up the good work buddy!
Thanks for watching!
I still enjoy playing on my CD32 from time to time. I use it much more than my CDTV.
Some CD32 games I recommend: Chaos Engine, Alien Breed: Tower Assault, Worms, Cannon Fodder, Lotus Trilogy, Superfrog, Beneath a Steel Sky.
I remember I bought an Amiga in 1989 then sold it for a good price then bought a slimmer version in 92. New Zealand story I remember well and Sensible Soccer. Thanks for the effort you put into these videos, they really bring back so many memories.
Great video, man! I'm really loving these Generation Recap videos. Keep up the good work!
Thanks!
Another great video. These series have been my favourite videos on TH-cam
Thanks!
Saying it just "did okay" in the UK is a bit rude. It was the best selling CD system by miles, the only thing that limited it's success was they never had enough to meet demand. Shops would get a delivery of like, five units. And they'd be gone by next day.
Adam and Americans in general are clueless when it comes to Commodore's success in the UK, Europe and Australia.
THe Mega CD sold well in the UK.
@@maniacsatwork and Brits are clueless about the video game crash and that the nes saved the industry at the time
Exactly... so it did ok. Just because it was popular doesnt mean it did as well as it could.
@@maniacsatwork he was correct though. Think most americans know commodore was a big seller since the c64 did so well in the states. The amiga wasnt a smash over there but its pretty common knowledge even to americans that it was a top seller everywhere else.
I knew a micro play here in Cambridge Ontario Canada that had a CD 32 on display. They also had a virtual boy and it was pretty cool to see
...I'm a 70's baby, so I basically played through every generation. I owned and learned how to program on a Commodore 128. There was a time where my dream was to work for Commodore since I'm from Pennsylvania. I never could afford an Amiga computer, but had several friends in college that had one and it gave me an opportunity to play a system that I always wanted to own. Thanks for reviewing this rare gaming system you really brought back a lot of memories...
I just love your videos soooo so much man,I find your channel randomly and before I knew it,I was hooked up watching video after video of yours till 4AM,I also love your dreamcast series,with the dreamcast being my favorite console ever.
Trelos Gauros Coincidence? It is 4:09 now here.
I thought I knew my gaming history, but I swear I just heard of 3 consoles for the first time in watching a few of your videos today.
Amiga CD32, Sega CD Model 1, and Sega Wondermega
Glad I could teach you something. :D
Cool stuff Adam! I never knew much about this console so thanks for the history lesson!
Thanks for watching!
These videos are great. Very concise and informative, nice stuff man
Cool vid!!! I remember reading about this console In the early 90s, I thought it was gonna be a success because of the hardware based on the Amiga computer and the Commodore brand was popular back then, heck I even started coding and gaming on a C64.
Ahh the good ol' days.
Great video as always.
This is the one console I don't have but really want, you're not kidding about them being rare.
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Very interesting video, enjoying your posts. Keep up the great work Adam.
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Love your channel Adam!! I know this is an old post, but I checked out gameplay of some games, and D/Generation looks like an AMAZING GAME! It's too bad we never got a release here! :( anyway, keep up the great work! I look forward to more videos daily!!
trevorbozeman Thanks!
my brother had the cd32...man I loved that controller!! it fascinated me totally
OMG just jumped on ebay and the game collection for this machine is amazing, some of my favourite titles as a kid are there
I fell in love with the aesthetics of this console when I first saw it in one of the video game museum articles. Although I could have swore I saw a lighter colored one. It's very "Back to the Future".
YES! That's a great way to put it. I think that's what I was laboring to say in the middle there. Well put.
Love ur stuff dude, its really nice to just sit down and watch. KEEP GOING! :D
Thanks!
I had an Amiga 500 and it was great. It was my gaming machine for a lot of time.
I remember when this came out in the UK, the launch made the news as they used celebrities to introduce it at a party ( in London I think). Chris Evans ( not Captain America Evans sadly lol) the TV presenter was part of it all. It was heavily marketed as the first 32 bit console ( lack of the internet meant we didn't really know better). We really thought this was going to be successful but most of the games were already available on the extremely popular Amiga computer line for less money.
My friend had one day of release and bought it around my house which is I think the only time I played one, I remember the D pad on the controller wasn't great.
Playing games on it kind of felt like the Amiga line hadn't moved on and Amiga fans were not going to give up there computers or games library to convert over and nintendo & Sega owners were loyal to those brands, I still see the odd CD32 from time to time.
I had an Amiga CDTV ( it was basically a Amiga 500 with a CD drive that went under your TV, a bit like the CD-I & 3DO concept but could be upgraded with a mouse, disk drive & keyboard to a more computer style if wanted ) and that played most of the Amiga games I want too.... not sure if you covered that machine but I will check out your channels video list 🙂. Cheers for another great video !
Adam, this recap was honestly really good! Please do more if you can!
EDIT: And you're friends with the ToyRatt? Dude that's awesome that place has all my PS2 needs.
Thanks, there will be more.
Yep, he's my buddy. I've done a bunch of videos at the store and he mentions my channel all the time in his videos.
I had an Amiga CD32 as a kid, when Commodore went bust, it became nigh on impossible to find games for it though. You had to search through the bargain bins of video game shops to find any. Then my mate got a PS1 and it just made the CD32 look terrible. The console and all the games ended up going in the bin, in the end.
One game you must try, is Liberation II: Captive, probably the best game released on the CD32.
Would like to make a few points though:
As far as I'm aware, the reason no one has heard of it in Canada or seen one, is because even though Commodore planned to sell it there, the whole US inventory was kept in a warehouse up until they went bust. Commodore was in a huge financial mess even before the CD32 and the lawsuit. There's a rumour, that hundreds of CD32s, for the American market, still sit abandoned in this warehouse somewhere.
The CD32 was the companies last rushed attempt to turn a profit, as you said in the video, it was basically just an Amiga 1200 in a different case.
The reason Commordore and Amiga were having so much trouble is because they failed to improve their hardware enough. Back in the mid 80s, when the first Amiga 1000 was released and the cheaper 500, nothing in the computing world could compare to its graphical performance. It really was an amazing piece of kit . In a world where everyone thought computers were only capable of green text with a black screen, or only a handful of colours, Amiga come along, and show off a computer which is capable of processing a red and white ball, moving around the screen. Not only that, but the 1000 and 500 came with an operating system. You didn't have to memorize countless lines of code, or exe. paths to load anything. You either clicked on a icon, like you do in windows now, or you put a floppy in before starting the machine and it did everyone else for you.
But Amiga basically kept the same graphics processor throughout its history and by the 90s the rest of the world had caught up, and a few years after that, the Amiga's graphical capabilities was obsolete. Everyone had moved on from Amiga and were buying PCs or buying consoles for the fraction of the price, which had better, brighter, graphics.
I remember playing one of these in Dixons (defunct electronics store in the UK) and I loved the the Controller! It was expensive in comparison to Sega and Nintendo and Amiga fans were happy with their 500s using a Megadrive controller.
Another console on my want list thanks for making all these console generation vids!!!!!
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Didn't know much about this system before i watched this.
Very informative !
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Cool review. I do enjoy these generation reviews
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I used to have a cd32 unit that was used in a kiosk in a museum it was pretty cool.
word up for the MN12Bird plug!!! One of my staple channels in the YGC from some years back!
I had one of these when they came out in 1993 . I remember Zool , the Alien Breed games, Sensible Soccer, James Pond , D-Generation, Beneath a Steel Sky , Bubba and Styx ,Cannon Fodder , Gunship 2000 ,Simon the Sorcerer,Heimdell 2 , Lemmings (oh no) , various pinball games ,Simon the Sorcerer,The Lost Vikings , Soccer Kid, Subwar 2050 and UFO Enemy Unknown all being a lot of fun . I still used it every now and then even (mostly to play the pinball games) after getting a ps1 in 1995 but eventually ended up giving it away in 1999 to a friend of mine who was living in this grotty little bedsit without a penny to his name when I last saw him in 2012 he still had it and by that time he was married and his kids were using it . Must have been a hardy little machine to last that long .
KB Quinnell That's kind of splitting hairs about a console that didn't manage to last a year dude.
+AdamKoralik I'm 100% positive I've seen these in the US. Back in the early 90's they were being sold at a Costco in Michigan and I asked my mom to get me one... I crap you not. I had a C64, loved it, and wanted one of these sooo bad.
+banjodawgsofjupiter Michigan borders Canada, possible some one imported them. But they were never given a national distribution.
That must be it... I know costco is in Canada as well. Distribution mishap? Whateves... Really digging the vids. Great work!
+banjodawgsofjupiter Thanks!
+AdamKoralik i saw one in a thrift shop in gurnee ya know 2 hours from chicago
+Manos B Thanks for watching! Also, enable replies bud.
Great video Adam. Gotta be in my top 3 youtube channels. can't wait for the N64 episode!
My uncle had one here in Iceland, i loved playing it.
It's nice to be up to date with your channel because I've been catching up on your videos the last three months. I listen to your opinions over other people because I feel that your thoughts are very neutral. You point out things a company is doing wrong to correct them instead of doing it to just hate them. Being 14 years old and ignorant of the past generations I enjoy hearing your thoughts on them because I wasn't there to experience them. So thanks for having an awesome TH-cam channel!
Thanks dude!
AdamKoralik Wouldn't be saying it if it wasn't true.
Love the videos man ! great work.
Thanks!
Love your format and how you explain the history of less common hardware. A down to earth discussion of awesome hardware. Keep 'em coming! Only suggestion is to put some cloth or sound absorbing things on your walls. There seems to be a slight reverb / echo in the room that you record in, so your voice isn't as crisp/clear as it could be.
Thanks. Yeah, I get that complaint a lot. There's a reason it's the "quick shoot series." My film school teachers would cry if they knew I did it this way.
I guess I could overlook the reverb if you would consider reviewing something awesome like.... oh i don't know... A Sega TeraDrive? j/k you have a great thing going here, it is a delight hearing fresh and modern takes on classic consoles and console history.
mb7756 Thanks. If I had one, I would. I did show one once, briefly. Check out my Super Tomato Tour video.
AdamKoralik Oh! Very cool, didn't know about that, will do! :)
I remember finding one of these consoles in Buenos Aires Argentina in middle 90s.
Pinball Fantasies was one of my first PC CDROM games! EPIC!
Thanks for the vid and for the respect you show to CD32!
I had an Amiga 500 as a kid that was passed down to me from my older brother so I love the Amiga and I think Amiga was popular in the UK. I never had an Amiga CD32 but I will defo get one eventually.
One game I loved on the Amiga CD32 was called liberation. It was a First Person Futuristic RPG/Shooter a little like Deus Ex. Spent hours in that. Shame the U.S. Didn't have a this console as it could have been a hit given that Amiga in Europe was huge at the time
Glad I've still got mine (Sydney Australia :)). Had it since the mid-90s.
yea i rarely see stuff for this console.. when we found those games in newark, that was the first time in ages ive seen some, so that was lucky. i'll keep my eye open for you tho.
great vid, im glad you are doing vids for the lesser consoles too. its all interesting history of the industry we love.
Thanks dude.
My biggest regret in life is selling all my old consoles as a kid. I had an Amiga CD32, Amiga 1200, Action Max, ZX Spectrum, various Game Boys and Game Gears, and many, many more.
I remember playing the CD32 fondly. Cannon Fodder, Rise of the Robots and The Chaos Engine were in constant rotation.
I remember as a youngster (maybe about 7-8) playing on one of these on zool 2 and just couldn't work out why it was so so much more expensive than megadrive and looked absolutely the same on cross platform games. I don't know anybody who had one at the time of launch or even now. Amiga was huge in UK but this in my area (Bolton Manchester) it wasn't any major stores.
Wow cool video, never heard of it. I found a JVC X'eye recently at a flea market and forgot how cool they were in the early 90's, but amazed how hard they are to find in North America these days without a wad of cash.
Thanks.
I'm glad I bought one of those when no one gave a shit about them.
Cool Video, as a kid (im 29 now & from the UK) my older brother owned the Amiga 1200 but never the CD32. The Amiga 1200 was an excellent gaming device (I know it's not a gaming console yet I always saw it as one) it had some of the best games, played it with my brothers religiously until I got the Nintendo 64 in 1996. Adam, if you never played the Amiga 1200 / 600/ 500, you should try one day maybe as it had some amazing games for it time, Canon Fodder, Mega Lo Mania, Lemmings, Secret of Monkey Island, Speedball 2, Lotus turbo Challenge 2 just to name a few, great days!
I'll have to settle for the CD32, I can only get so much stuff.
So neat, so interesting, all that could have been, all these systems, all these games that we won't ever even know were being developed.
Bought CD32 at Wonder Computers in Ottawa at release time I had the mpeg decoder Microcosm, Zool and a couple of others it was very cool at the time wish I still had it. So I remember it in Canada also seem to remember using fred fish cd,s for shareware games.
Wow, I thought I knew about pretty much every console that came out. Never seen or herd of this.
I had an A1200 very late its in life and the only place I saw the CD32 was in the Amiga magazine. Nobody in my circle of friends had one. Id love one now just for Chaos Engine :-)
thanks for all the info mate, i really like your videos
miguel gonzalez Thanks!
I’m just replaying mine now
I wonder I never heard anything about this console until today. Too sad the console had no chance. The C64, C128 and the Amiga Cumputer were super famous here in Germany. It means this brand had a big name here already.
i was a big Amiga fan but although I was aware of the CD32 I never saw one till a few years ago when a friend pulled one out of his dads attic and gave me it. Its great for playing discs full of Amiga 500 games but I dont tend to use it for much more than that. Has a nice CD player in it I noticed.
A family friend had this! The controller really was unique. They actually had a lot of quirky systems including this and a CD-i.
I wish I had a CD-i.
AdamKoralik
Me too for nostalgias sake. Hotel Mario was actually pretty good. There was a casino game on it too which wasn't too shabby.
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***** You're on Facebook then? Send me a message! Also, thank you dude, that's really cool of you.
Oh man! The CD32! As an Amiga fan, I followed the unfolding drama very closely during the console's ill-fated launch some two decades ago. That stupid patent infringement bit the company badly. I forget what the exact patent was, but it was something so ridiculously benign. And because Commodore missed the United States holiday season CD32 launch in late 1993, they quickly spiraled into bankruptcy in April 1994. They were banking on CD32 sales to turn the company around - and history has shown the sad reality of its collapse. What if, what if... [sigh]
On a side note, I have an original disc of 'Akira' for the CD32! I used to play it on my Amiga 1200 with a CD-ROM drive connected. Since the hardware was so similar, there was a way to get the computer to play the console games. As much as I wanted the CD32 to succeed at the time, I was never interested in getting one since I already had an Amiga 1200. It'd be kinda retro fun to have one now though. There was even a mod for the CD32 that allowed you to add a keyboard, mouse and hard drive to turn it into an "Amiga 1200" computer.
Great video like always!
Thank you.
Great review, really honest and well researched! I love my CD32, it was my first home console and my introduction to Amiga computers. I even expanded my CD32 with a SX32 module so it has a 4GB CF drive packed full of software and games, 8MB additional RAM and extra ports, so I can go online and browse the web on my TV from my old CD32. In fact it's possible to connect to the net with a stock CD32 and run some basic software with a Workbench CD, using your controller as a mouse. Try and get a copy of Fightin' Spirit, I think it's the best fighting game for Amigas and it's not too hard to find on eBay or online Amiga stores. Oh, and check out the blog site with unofficial CD32 conversions and play Slam Tilt on your CD32, it's the best pinball game!
Thanks for watching! Yeah, Fighting Spirit was recommended to me by a few people, suppose I should do that. Thanks for the tips!
the units that came into the US from Canada are NTSC. The store that i bought my A1200 from also carried the CD32 and that store was located in Sacramento California. it took me years to find one but i obtained a NA NTSC unit last year.
you can actually change the video output from PAL to NTSC by way of an Amiga mouse plugged into port 2. since most (not all) CD32 games are PAL I have to do the PAL mode on my unit to get it to play them properly. but it also helps that i still kept my Commodore 1084s monitor.
But the unit does work on my regular composite Sanyo TV and i even have some demo discs that used to be included with the CD32 magazines back then. i will have to look into the RGB mod as my 1084s is also an RGB monitor that i use for snes, jaguar and genesis. it's small (13") but produces a really nice picture.
Great vid, got a cd32. Decent machine for sure
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Canadian here, and I spotted one in a gaming store in BC. Couldn't afford it, unfortunately I'm a broke university student, but it was amazing to see. Kind of like a unicorn spotting :P
Awesome! I totally agree about the controller, it is comfortable but that d-pad feel s clunky. I usually plug in my Mega Drive controller when playing games like "The Chaos Engine". Looking forward for the 3DO video, keep up the great work man!
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I'm in Canada and I've never seen one in real life either. I do remember hearing about it back when it came out but that was only in gaming magazines.
I remember seeing buzz articles and even a pre-ad for this in mags and then silence.
nice video review my only suggestion will be can you show us some gameplay footage of this rare system and other upcoming reviews of yours and keep up the great work!
Eh, I wanted to focus more on the story of the console's history. Not so much its actual game playing capabilities. I'll probably do that another time.
Canadian myself and honestly i have never seen one in person! lol!! i kinda remember the Advertisements on TV back in the day oddly enough ha ha but never did get one because the snes and sega/mega drive were still huge at the time and with the ps1 on the horizon i can see why it kinda just died super fast! excelent video and subbed! enjoy your content man!
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6:19 I recently managed to get my hands on one that came up in an auction house here in Canada. The barcode sticker on the bottom is labeled CN which (I assume) indicates that it was made for the canadian market. I've seen ones labeled US, UK, GR, etc for different countries so it was cool to find one here that was actually sold here originally!
As an amiga lover from the uk and an amiga 500 owner. The a1200 was behind the times when it came out. The 1200 and cd32 both had the "puala" soundchip from 1985!!! and the graphics where not much further ahead of the old amigas.
You got remember when the playstation came out it had a very impressive port of ridge racer with it's 3d graphics with textures and wow factor.
great video adam. The fujitsu fm towns marty is actually a very expensive consoles and so are the games, a copy of viewpoint on this system cost the same like on they neo geo for example.
Yeah man, I want one. But I've never been able to justify that price tag.
I literally just noticed the spine of the Sonic 2006 case behind Adam XD
Oh damn, I loved playing Zool on the Genesis. Apparently, it was originally developed for Amiga 1200 and then ported over to everything else.
I got one of these on release day in the UK. Games to look out for: Frontier Elite, Gloom, Pirates and Labyrinth of Time. Oh, and you forgot to mention the FMV VCD expansion port on the back?
Good vid looking forward to next one, i was thinking could you add some sort of specs comparison of main competitors? It is something that could be nice in recap videos at least in my opinion:)
There is a legend I have come across on several forums that Commodore had a warehouse of these things in the Philippines that they abandoned. Cool console. Too bad it is so rare.
Great description - 80's future. It looks kinda like a tape recorder.
I'm confused I just bought one and I am wondering if you can use a Mega Drive Controller on it?
You can not
When I heard of this console, I thought Sega and Commodore paired up to make a genesis,sega cd, and 32x combo system. Like the Sega CDX or the JVC X'EYE. Think about it, CD32 and Sega CD 32X. They sound pretty similar.
I heard somewhere that if you plug in an Amiga mouse into the CD32's controller port and hold down both buttons during the console's startup, it will give you the option to select NTSC or PAL regardless of which region the unit is from. I can't remember where I heard this but if it's true then you can save some cash and not have to mod the console, unless you really want RGB.
+Michael Wolfe This is correct as the Boot ROM was just an updated Amiga 1200 ROM with additional code to add CD (this system could be upgraded to a full computer system if you wanted) the problem though is the system would still initially boot in to PAL (as default) upon power up so the the screen to select PAL/NTSC would be a flickering mess. Also the RF modulator still wouldn't work so composite or svideo only.
Great Video, very interesting.
Thanks!