Eastern Bronze was brought from the Ural Mountains, Seima and Ananjino Cultures. Most common bronze tool was axe, they've found several axes and dozens of axe molds, so they also casted them here locally. Bronze was commonky used in jewelry.
Well done. Btw here in America during the frontier days we covered the dead in stones for 2 reasons. 1 they died in winter & ground was too hard to dig & secondly to keep wolves & other scavengers from digging them up. IDK if this applies to the ancient Finns but i suspect it could.
It totally could - I don't know and can't say for sure but it does make sense. The climate back then was a little warmer but winters well still snowy and frozen. Thanks for watching!
Man kiitos!!! This shall be shared we all newcomers coming to live to Finland. Will create a better connection for those living here. Uskon että se voisi auttaa myös ihmisiä opin Suomen historia.
Haha thanks! The name literally translates to basic Finns which is quite fitting. But to all their voters, rest assured that no party is safe from jokes.
I was taught that the Hungarian, Finnish and Estonian languages make up the bulk of the Uralic languages. What is the main scientific consensus on that in Suomi? Great video, kiitos!
Kiitos uudelleen. Sä puhut saamelaisista paikannimistä etelä-suomessa ja mietit, voisiko Päijänne, joka alkaa asuin- ja opiskelupaikkani jyváskylästä Lahteen, olla yksi näistä.
Ei mitään käsitystä 😅Wikipedia tiesti kertoa, että "Päijänteen (järvi) nimi on Suomen vanhimpia paikannimiä. Ensimmäinen kirjallinen merkintä siitä on vuodelta 1472 kirjoitusasulla Peijnde. Nimeä on käytetty jo kauan ennen kuin se on merkitty asiakirjoihin. Sen alkuperä ja kieli on kuitenkin tuntematon."
@@JakeonkuningasI wish I remember where, but I have seen it called a Sámi place name by a Sámi source. I remembered it bc it reminds me of someone's last name that I grew up with but I don't know where I read that information. They said peijnde was a misspelling - though spelling was not consistent - it changes the meaning. So Sámi speakers would know but 😂 again I don't know which of the Sámi dialects.
Hieno video. Itselläkin on pari kosketusta varhaismetallikauteen, ensimmäinen vaatimaton metallinkappale myöhemmin varmistuneelta varhaismetallikauden asuinpaikalta ja toinen on varhainen pronssikirveslöytö nk. Laakakirves.
Iron wasn't really cheap before the industrial revolution, but bronze was in an altogether different ballpark. You were definitely a big name in your community if you could afford it.
@@Anttimation Itse en saamea yhtään osaa, mutta mitä telkarista oon kuullu niin Nuuksio vois kyllä saamelta kuulostaa. Täytyypä kartasta vähän kattella paikannimiä.
It is around this time when Uralic people arrived from the east and mixed with the indo-european hunter gatherers inhabiting Finland to create the ancestors of modern day Finns.
Hyvin homman hoidit! (Just keep on truckin' dude!) (Btw, I have a theory that unites "Finland" and "Suomi" but it would take an unusually long comment to relate.) Moi!
@@Anttimation Well, that's an interesting suggestion but, as interesting as it may be, video is not a form of expression that fits me very well. What would be more likely is writing it out (which I keep forgetting to do) and then posting it on my blog. I could then just put a link to it in the comments of whatever is your latest video at the time.
This article says fen/fin means bog in Norse & the Scandinavian proto language & that suo means bog in Fino-Ugric languages like Suomi. & It doesn't have to mean swampy. Bog can mean areas with a lot of lakes & streams, & a bog in Ireland is like that and those lands were once connected, & still are similar... So I wonder if that is it. In Ireland (& bc of contact, words get shared) people who long lived in such areas are named things like Finnegan but have no Finnic DNA or lineage. When you're walking through a bog in Ireland, your feet aren't wet unless you step into a low point. The old old meaning of bog isn't swampy. It's a kind of soil that's capable of holding onto a lot of water, which sinks, it's not on the surface & peat moss grows there, & grows fast, relatively speaking as to soil forming bc the roots are so intertwined & it hold onto tannins & the old layers of moss, as it rises but some places are wetter, lower, closer to the water table or pools or streams. Scotland has this type of land & Scandinavia does but Finland had a lot & after the last ice age it was wetter, all that melt. That's the word though that shares a meaning in both languages. Link www.gofinland.org/finland-or-suomi/
Well I don't really mean soil. Earth. But made of 99% organic material that's really not decomposed bc the tannins preserve it, & it's not got ground up stone, sand or clay or anything like that except maybe little bits near the edge. Irish people cut it into brick shapes, stack it, dry it, & burn it as fuel. They call that a turf fire. It's peat roots. & Other plants can grow on the surface. So bog & swamp are not the same & I see people elsewhere thinks ng someone assumed. I'm betting they didn't have bogs so didn't have a word for it, & when told of it pictured it swampy instead of the moisture under the surface except after a heavy rain. I know it's not the same place. But the words & prefixes fin, & fen show up in both places tied to the land, both are described as swampy AND as bog lands in various sources, with bog used by local & educated sources & swampy by outside sources. & They're the same to be in. So then if fin & fen are the same meaning as suo wouldn't they both be describing the land as many ancient place names do, & the people of that place by that description? I'm not a linguistic expert, but they'll be who translations of those root words came from bc they're in multiple encyclopedia & dictionary entries too.
Wow! Europe is ancient. I used to work at a graveyard here in the US one Summer. I doubt if there was a headstone there before 1870 as the town was established in 1865.
In the States the ancient buildings are Hohokam, Anasazi, proto-puebloan cliff dwellings & trade centers & dry stone castle-like buildings, in the southwest. Then the Mound Builders in the Ohio Valley & a few stone lookout towers in the NE. Except the Puebloans who just had stone to work with (& who had Aztecs, Toltec, & Olmecs raiding them for human sacrifices so I'd build a stone castle too!) & the Pacific Northwest tribes who had wooden houses, most of the indigenous people here shared values & beliefs with the Sámi & Algonquians share DNA with them. Those beliefs include that nature, & the land, all living beings depending on the natural world are sacred, so they didn't make permanent structures & early on, migrated so resources don't get used up in one place forever. (We have areas that are overgrazed in the States & a "dust bowl.") Migrating tribes had, have, tipi poles & covers in the Plains like the Sámi have lavvu, same shape & portability. Where people had denser resources near lakes in woodlands, at eastern shores, they built wigwams & longhouses just like a Sámi goahti. They used saplings of trees that bend easy or stay strong but are light weight, of types that grow too close together to thrive, like maples. So, they left no trace bc the land was to be cared for & disturbed as little as possible. We have L'Anse Aux Meadows too, in Newfoundland. And we have Northeastern grave stones from the early 1600s & a few houses still, from the late 1600s, & you're right, except the first contact places like the SW & NE, most traces of people begin late!! There are a couple of runestones near the Great Lakes bc Anishinaabes (Ojibwe, Chippewa) still take care of them & have oral history of Norse coming through the lakes & rivers & camping nearby for awhile & getting along with the people there. They didn't fight like the Beothuk tribe & Miqmaw did, with the "boatsmen." It's really cool to see buildings hundreds of years old, let alone thousands! Or standing stones, neolithic works.
If the Proto-Sámi language was the first main language, in the areas of modern Finland, and later the Baltic Finnish language was added. Could it be that these people speaking the original Baltic Finnish language moved to the areas of South and South-West Finland directly from Estonia? (where Baltic Finnish is still spoken to this day language)
I can't really answer but Proto-Sami and proto-Finnish have a common ancestor, and the Baltic Finnish people in Finland certainly got a lot of influence from modern day Estonia
According to the modern consensus in comparative linguistics (to the extent there is one), strengthened by ancient genomics particularly, agrees that all Finnic languages are very likely relative new-comers to the area. Some important constraints are simply the facts that the split of languages from Proto-Uralic (basically as far as you can go with scientific methods) cannot be dated much earlier than around 2000 BC and that happened way further east, and eg. that the larger spread of Proto-Saami (from a very small area maybe around Lakeland Finland or further east to all over Northern Fennoscandia and most of modern Finland) must have been pretty recent as well, like during 300 BC - 500 AD or so (you should check Ante Aikio's more precise timeframes from his "Essay on Saami ethnolinguistic prehistory"). The modern consensus also tends to be that the ancestral forms of the languages leading up to modern Finnish and Proto-Saami probably split quite early on and certainly not in the area of modern Finland, but rather likely taking different routes to the area to start with: excluding some quite northern ones, there are basically two very natural waterway-based routes to here from the east, one going north and one south of Lake Ladoga. Modern Finnish and Estonian (among a bunch of smaller languages that branched off at different points) are both descended from what is often called "Baltic Finnic/Finnish" (itämerensuomi), which was more of a dialect continuum, of course, spoken mostly around the nothern Baltic coast. Some speakers of a later dialectical form of this ancestral language (which Valter Lang, see Homo Fennicus, thinks had been around modern Northern Estonia for up to 1000 years by then, interacting heavily with early Balts and later also Germanics) started crossing the Bay of Finland likely into SW-Finland particularly, starting not much earlier than around 0 AD. Then they started spreading all over from there, probably preferring waterways (like before) and first expanding elsewhere to the more arable Southern and Western Finland. The shared language connection between the Estonian side was cut for good only around 500 AD. Of course, Finland was and had been definitely inhabited several times over already by then, and they were just the latest and pretty much the last population wave with significant effects on the composition of the modern Finnish population. At that point, of the people that had managed to make it here that far (eg., I think many believe the Battle Axe people had just taken a hike back or something because of earlier climate issues, not leaving a genetic trace!) there was pre-existing Germanic/Proto-Scandinavian inhabitation on the coast, which was likely swallowed up by the Finns. More inland and into the north and beyond, there were the Saami of course, although their density was a lot lower because of their mostly HG lifestyle. It's plausible that a lot of the southern Saami admixed with the Finns in one way or another, some maybe taking up the territorially more efficient Finnish ways of sustenance wholesale.
Itärajalta löytyi merkki muinaisesta asumuksesta, joka mullistaisi rakennushistorian: "Suomen oloissa aivan ainutlaatuista" mielenkiintoinen uutinen luettavaksi jos kiinnostaa 😄
Just dropping an algorithm comment for Ukko.
Spreading the gospel of Ukko!
Have faith in Jesus to be saved, turn from sin and live life for God who created you, God bless!@@Anttimation
Have faith in Jesus to be saved, turn from sin and live life for God who created you, God bless!
@@thetornadocrusader968 thanks 👍
Thanks
WOW! Amazing! Thanks so much John!
@@Anttimationhow did you get that emoji?
@@Powys6732 it's for the channel members and can then be typed with : ukko : minus the spaces before and after 'ukko'
As a lover of archaeology Finnish culture, .dry punny humor and metal music, this video is top notch!
Haha great to hear, thank you! 🤘
Eastern Bronze was brought from the Ural Mountains, Seima and Ananjino Cultures. Most common bronze tool was axe, they've found several axes and dozens of axe molds, so they also casted them here locally. Bronze was commonky used in jewelry.
7:07 i just love the dry delivery and honestly. But to be fair those shirts look pretty cool
Hahaha thank you!
Them puns in this video :D
Well researched and put together video!
Cheers! Perkele, it takes quite some time to make sure I say mostly other than male cow manure.
I love that you advertised your merchandise with humour.
I'm uncomfortable even joking like here, but statistics show that advertising/mentioning will lead to more sales 🤷♂️
Well done. Btw here in America during the frontier days we covered the dead in stones for 2 reasons. 1 they died in winter & ground was too hard to dig & secondly to keep wolves & other scavengers from digging them up. IDK if this applies to the ancient Finns but i suspect it could.
It totally could - I don't know and can't say for sure but it does make sense. The climate back then was a little warmer but winters well still snowy and frozen.
Thanks for watching!
Fantastic! You are so talented in conveying history and show it in your amazing drawings !
Thank you very much!
Finally new video on my favourite channel 🖤
Thank you! :)
This is brilliant. Thanks for creating this wonderful series!
Thanks for watching! More episodes in the making 😎
Man kiitos!!! This shall be shared we all newcomers coming to live to Finland. Will create a better connection for those living here. Uskon että se voisi auttaa myös ihmisiä opin Suomen historia.
Thank you!
Your dropping Part 3 lead me back to Part 2; it’s so good! And once again, I left a loud at your casting shade on the Finns Party.
Haha thanks! The name literally translates to basic Finns which is quite fitting. But to all their voters, rest assured that no party is safe from jokes.
TH-camssa ei oo paljon mitään videoita Suomen historiasta, kiitos Antti näistä mahtavista videoista!
Kiitos! Senpä takia näitä teenkin.
samat sanat!
Enjoyed the animations and dry delivery, subscribed.
Thank you David!
Beautiful animation
Thank you Liisa!🤷
The bop in this video goes hard sooo casually bruh
good drawings. thanks
Thanks!
Tosi hyvä ja mielenkiintoista! Pidän aina sinusta videosta, Antti :)
Kiitos! Uusi video kohta ilmoilla
Another great video, looking forward to the next!
Thank you! A bit different video up next and then back to this series.
G.O.A.T animation!
@@phoenixknight8837 🐐🐐🐐
The section on burial customs was fascinating.
Since we have no written sources from the age, much of what we know/think is interpretation of burials.
I was taught that the Hungarian, Finnish and Estonian languages make up the bulk of the Uralic languages. What is the main scientific consensus on that in Suomi? Great video, kiitos!
I don't remember off the back of my head but sounds about right 😅 thanks for watching!
Kiitos uudelleen. Sä puhut saamelaisista paikannimistä etelä-suomessa ja mietit, voisiko Päijänne, joka alkaa asuin- ja opiskelupaikkani jyváskylästä Lahteen, olla yksi näistä.
Ei mitään käsitystä 😅Wikipedia tiesti kertoa, että "Päijänteen (järvi) nimi on Suomen vanhimpia paikannimiä. Ensimmäinen kirjallinen merkintä siitä on vuodelta 1472 kirjoitusasulla Peijnde. Nimeä on käytetty jo kauan ennen kuin se on merkitty asiakirjoihin. Sen alkuperä ja kieli on kuitenkin tuntematon."
Netistä löytyy Suomalainen paikannimikirja ja siellä mainitaan, että ainakin yksi tutkija on sitä mieltä että tausta voi olla saamelainen.
@@JakeonkuningasI wish I remember where, but I have seen it called a Sámi place name by a Sámi source. I remembered it bc it reminds me of someone's last name that I grew up with but I don't know where I read that information. They said peijnde was a misspelling - though spelling was not consistent - it changes the meaning. So Sámi speakers would know but 😂 again I don't know which of the Sámi dialects.
Hyvä video
Kiitos!
Hieno video. Itselläkin on pari kosketusta varhaismetallikauteen, ensimmäinen vaatimaton metallinkappale myöhemmin varmistuneelta varhaismetallikauden asuinpaikalta ja toinen on varhainen pronssikirveslöytö nk. Laakakirves.
Melko konkreettiset kosketukset siis! Ja kiitos! 🙌
The shade thrown at the Finns party caught me by surprise and made me laugh out loud.😂
Let's go, once again well put video. Wondering if the trolls loved to "take care" of death like wolverines.
That weird Finnish runic text that you use in a lot of your vids what do you call it because I can find anything that it on the internet!
Well you probably can't because I made it up, haha. It's something I imagine somewhat literate people would have carved on wood.
Please make more
Rest assured! Thanks for watching
Iron wasn't really cheap before the industrial revolution, but bronze was in an altogether different ballpark. You were definitely a big name in your community if you could afford it.
Nyt alkoi kiinnostaa, mitä saamenkielisiä paikannimiä löytyy eteläisemmästä Suomesta?
Äkkiä en muista tietenkään yhtäkään... Olisko Nuuksio? Tampere/Tammerkoski on ainakin. Näistä löytyisi varmasti jotain tutkimusta kyllä.
@@Anttimation Itse en saamea yhtään osaa, mutta mitä telkarista oon kuullu niin Nuuksio vois kyllä saamelta kuulostaa. Täytyypä kartasta vähän kattella paikannimiä.
my family looks like the characters in this episode
Maybe your family are from the bronze age
Maybe I used them as inspiration..?
I love this
Thanks Danny!
Nice
It is around this time when Uralic people arrived from the east and mixed with the indo-european hunter gatherers inhabiting Finland to create the ancestors of modern day Finns.
Is the ukonvasara historic, or a modern day invention?
It is historic, but how you might see everyone wearing one as a necklace in modern reenacting might be exaggerated.
Doesnt Seppo mean smith?
It does.
Hyvin homman hoidit! (Just keep on truckin' dude!) (Btw, I have a theory that unites "Finland" and "Suomi" but it would take an unusually long comment to relate.) Moi!
Thank you! Maybe you can make a video about it? ;)
@@Anttimation Well, that's an interesting suggestion but, as interesting as it may be, video is not a form of expression that fits me very well. What would be more likely is writing it out (which I keep forgetting to do) and then posting it on my blog. I could then just put a link to it in the comments of whatever is your latest video at the time.
This article says fen/fin means bog in Norse & the Scandinavian proto language & that suo means bog in Fino-Ugric languages like Suomi. & It doesn't have to mean swampy. Bog can mean areas with a lot of lakes & streams, & a bog in Ireland is like that and those lands were once connected, & still are similar... So I wonder if that is it. In Ireland (& bc of contact, words get shared) people who long lived in such areas are named things like Finnegan but have no Finnic DNA or lineage. When you're walking through a bog in Ireland, your feet aren't wet unless you step into a low point. The old old meaning of bog isn't swampy. It's a kind of soil that's capable of holding onto a lot of water, which sinks, it's not on the surface & peat moss grows there, & grows fast, relatively speaking as to soil forming bc the roots are so intertwined & it hold onto tannins & the old layers of moss, as it rises but some places are wetter, lower, closer to the water table or pools or streams. Scotland has this type of land & Scandinavia does but Finland had a lot & after the last ice age it was wetter, all that melt. That's the word though that shares a meaning in both languages. Link
www.gofinland.org/finland-or-suomi/
Well I don't really mean soil. Earth. But made of 99% organic material that's really not decomposed bc the tannins preserve it, & it's not got ground up stone, sand or clay or anything like that except maybe little bits near the edge. Irish people cut it into brick shapes, stack it, dry it, & burn it as fuel. They call that a turf fire. It's peat roots. & Other plants can grow on the surface. So bog & swamp are not the same & I see people elsewhere thinks ng someone assumed. I'm betting they didn't have bogs so didn't have a word for it, & when told of it pictured it swampy instead of the moisture under the surface except after a heavy rain. I know it's not the same place. But the words & prefixes fin, & fen show up in both places tied to the land, both are described as swampy AND as bog lands in various sources, with bog used by local & educated sources & swampy by outside sources. & They're the same to be in. So then if fin & fen are the same meaning as suo wouldn't they both be describing the land as many ancient place names do, & the people of that place by that description? I'm not a linguistic expert, but they'll be who translations of those root words came from bc they're in multiple encyclopedia & dictionary entries too.
Nä oon ihan vittun hyviä 👍
Kiitos! Tykkään näitä vääntää, niin hyvä että joku tykkää katsoa 💪
greetings from wales 🏴
@@вяат greetings back! Have you seen any dragons around?
What does Mädätystä mean? 😅
Similar to calling anything one doesn't like "woke BS" for example
@@Anttimation The same discussion all over Europe. I send you my regards from Switzerland 👋🏼
If you want a more accurate term for the trade of bronze and amber of Bronze Age Finland, it would probably be "long distance trade".
Wow! Europe is ancient. I used to work at a graveyard here in the US one Summer. I doubt if there was a headstone there before 1870 as the town was established in 1865.
True. Where I now live in Greece, there are 2000-year-old house, fortress and temple ruins around every corner.
In the States the ancient buildings are Hohokam, Anasazi, proto-puebloan cliff dwellings & trade centers & dry stone castle-like buildings, in the southwest. Then the Mound Builders in the Ohio Valley & a few stone lookout towers in the NE. Except the Puebloans who just had stone to work with (& who had Aztecs, Toltec, & Olmecs raiding them for human sacrifices so I'd build a stone castle too!) & the Pacific Northwest tribes who had wooden houses, most of the indigenous people here shared values & beliefs with the Sámi & Algonquians share DNA with them. Those beliefs include that nature, & the land, all living beings depending on the natural world are sacred, so they didn't make permanent structures & early on, migrated so resources don't get used up in one place forever. (We have areas that are overgrazed in the States & a "dust bowl.") Migrating tribes had, have, tipi poles & covers in the Plains like the Sámi have lavvu, same shape & portability. Where people had denser resources near lakes in woodlands, at eastern shores, they built wigwams & longhouses just like a Sámi goahti. They used saplings of trees that bend easy or stay strong but are light weight, of types that grow too close together to thrive, like maples. So, they left no trace bc the land was to be cared for & disturbed as little as possible. We have L'Anse Aux Meadows too, in Newfoundland. And we have Northeastern grave stones from the early 1600s & a few houses still, from the late 1600s, & you're right, except the first contact places like the SW & NE, most traces of people begin late!! There are a couple of runestones near the Great Lakes bc Anishinaabes (Ojibwe, Chippewa) still take care of them & have oral history of Norse coming through the lakes & rivers & camping nearby for awhile & getting along with the people there. They didn't fight like the Beothuk tribe & Miqmaw did, with the "boatsmen." It's really cool to see buildings hundreds of years old, let alone thousands! Or standing stones, neolithic works.
If the Proto-Sámi language was the first main language, in the areas of modern Finland, and later the Baltic Finnish language was added. Could it be that these people speaking the original Baltic Finnish language moved to the areas of South and South-West Finland directly from Estonia? (where Baltic Finnish is still spoken to this day language)
I can't really answer but Proto-Sami and proto-Finnish have a common ancestor, and the Baltic Finnish people in Finland certainly got a lot of influence from modern day Estonia
According to the modern consensus in comparative linguistics (to the extent there is one), strengthened by ancient genomics particularly, agrees that all Finnic languages are very likely relative new-comers to the area. Some important constraints are simply the facts that the split of languages from Proto-Uralic (basically as far as you can go with scientific methods) cannot be dated much earlier than around 2000 BC and that happened way further east, and eg. that the larger spread of Proto-Saami (from a very small area maybe around Lakeland Finland or further east to all over Northern Fennoscandia and most of modern Finland) must have been pretty recent as well, like during 300 BC - 500 AD or so (you should check Ante Aikio's more precise timeframes from his "Essay on Saami ethnolinguistic prehistory").
The modern consensus also tends to be that the ancestral forms of the languages leading up to modern Finnish and Proto-Saami probably split quite early on and certainly not in the area of modern Finland, but rather likely taking different routes to the area to start with: excluding some quite northern ones, there are basically two very natural waterway-based routes to here from the east, one going north and one south of Lake Ladoga.
Modern Finnish and Estonian (among a bunch of smaller languages that branched off at different points) are both descended from what is often called "Baltic Finnic/Finnish" (itämerensuomi), which was more of a dialect continuum, of course, spoken mostly around the nothern Baltic coast. Some speakers of a later dialectical form of this ancestral language (which Valter Lang, see Homo Fennicus, thinks had been around modern Northern Estonia for up to 1000 years by then, interacting heavily with early Balts and later also Germanics) started crossing the Bay of Finland likely into SW-Finland particularly, starting not much earlier than around 0 AD. Then they started spreading all over from there, probably preferring waterways (like before) and first expanding elsewhere to the more arable Southern and Western Finland. The shared language connection between the Estonian side was cut for good only around 500 AD.
Of course, Finland was and had been definitely inhabited several times over already by then, and they were just the latest and pretty much the last population wave with significant effects on the composition of the modern Finnish population. At that point, of the people that had managed to make it here that far (eg., I think many believe the Battle Axe people had just taken a hike back or something because of earlier climate issues, not leaving a genetic trace!) there was pre-existing Germanic/Proto-Scandinavian inhabitation on the coast, which was likely swallowed up by the Finns. More inland and into the north and beyond, there were the Saami of course, although their density was a lot lower because of their mostly HG lifestyle. It's plausible that a lot of the southern Saami admixed with the Finns in one way or another, some maybe taking up the territorially more efficient Finnish ways of sustenance wholesale.
In the early days ppl spoke an indoeuropian language in Finland.
good video for sleep
You found it that boring? 😆
el pibe basado:
basado😎😎
Jees
Jees.
Itärajalta löytyi merkki muinaisesta asumuksesta, joka mullistaisi rakennushistorian: "Suomen oloissa aivan ainutlaatuista" mielenkiintoinen uutinen luettavaksi jos kiinnostaa 😄
Linkkiä?
Löysin googlaamalla :D
@@Anttimation 😄oli vähän pitempi lenkki koiran kanssa niin en ollut näkemässä viestejä
Those ancestors of the Finns party 😂
STONE - Back to the Stone Age (the rhinos rule what you do: your life depends on them)