Even worse when I saw people make the connection that the "whistling" sound you hear when Melina picks up Torrent's ring, is probably actually Torrent's death throes as the ring burns away, betrayed by its chosen rider (you)
Kales dialogue in the catacombs is from a cut questline I think. Such a shame. The VA does an excellent job and I would have loved to have more interactions with him. It also adds to the frenzied flame ending.
This is about the frenzied flame ending and I'm not sure one ending is more canon than the others. It's the only ending in wich Melina doesn't have to die but she hates you for it and she will hunt you and try to kill you with destined death. Yeah I think his regular switching of outfits for the player character is more confusing in this than his other videos. I think that's mainly because his character looks like Edgar and later he wears Vikes armour. I think he chose to do that because Shabriri also uses the bodies of others to spread chaos and Vikes armour is very symbolic as vike tried and failed to do what you did. But still those choices don't help in making the video more understandable if you haven't dived into the lore.
In addition you can cheat this ending in a few ways. You can for example burn Melina and then aquire the frenzied flame which will result in her not being able to hunt you down. You can use the flame to burn the tree with the flame and then get rid of it with Miquelas needle and do one of the other endings. Technically this is the best ending as you spare Melina but also don't burn down the world. Also frenzied flame is the worst ending in my book as you burn even Torrents ring whistle aka kill Torrent and no ending where you are that ungratefull to the best boy is acceptable.
Hello, have you watched more general lore videos before that one? You seem to lack some understanding of the lore for this video to be more impactful. Basically this is a story about one of the ending, when you the player character inherit the flame of frenzy, that allows you to spare Melina and to burn the Erdtree yourself but you become the lord of Chaos in the process and you burn the whole world to the ground in this ending. Melina hates you for this, she warned you against the frenzied flame, and in the last scene we see her with her eye finally opened revealing her ties to the Gloam Eyed Queen, and now she wants to kill you with the power the GEQ once wielded, Destined Death. It's the player character you see fighting Vyke and talking to Shabriri, i agree he made his character kinda look like Edgar, the father of Irina and its a little confusing. And Shabriri is an agent of Chaos, i dont know exactly what he is but he uses appearances of dead people to guide people like Vyke and yourself on the path to become lord of frenzied flame/chaos. Hope this helps. 😅
Hahaha, nope, this was my first one and I only ever got the "Age of the Stars" ending! Now it makes a lot more sense, oh god, thanks for that! Especially now that you mention that it's actually not Irinas father LOL I feel I gotta dive more into the lore
Melina is the glumed eye queen,her soul became part of Marika's and split away as Marika's daughter,Melina as the glum eye queen was tasked to put an end to every asended like Marika but Marika sent her own shadown -Maliketh the black blade- or Maliketh the dogo Marika did not kill the glum eye queen fully,instead she wished to make her own age continues with souls going to the erdtree,bodies to furtilies it and rebirth of the same souls but within new bodies but Marika after long search finds that her existance is nothing but a prison she created herself. Marika's finale affort is to guide Melina to burn down the Erdtree and something else(we do not know but maybe- it was what Melina made us do after) Sending us to Malkeith to get the death rune to put it back into the Elden ring. My specillation was from the game and dlc The greater will is like any outer power in the stars like the crusables,The formless mother,the Rot...etc The crusables age was with the hornsent but within their own murbide actions of Making,Marika's people ((the shamens)) to be stuffed into pots after being whipped with sharpen rotten teeth whip that split their skin open to cause them to enfuse with hornsent sinners to be saints -It is like your uncle find out of you drinking so in order to make you good boy or girl,He turn you into a centipede with a man or a woman of god- (it is morbide after all) the hornsent what so ever did not know if that would work really,spoillers: it did not at all,instead the shammens now is in agony as their body became a mix of flesh latshing on their own real body,We do not know what those hornsent sinners did really but imagin walking with thief or a murderors body trying to bust out from within your own skin daily.the worst part though the shammens do not have signs of knowing what they are anymore,Their mind became one with all of those within them and every single pot holds from 2 to 4 bodies even in some cases there are those with 10 shoved inside one pot. The shammens devotion within the crusables was simply being one with nature after death,Like munkes in budisem as you can find Marika's Grandmother's body (figurtively or phsically) became part of a tree. Marika goes on to make the hornsent to pay for their own actions by turning them on each other in a way,She instructed them to make the gate that would lead them to connection with the outter space powers (the gate of divinity) by sacrifices of other hornsent bodies,She seduced someone or something but she killed it,after walking out of the gate of divinity we do not know what was the thing she married,seduced or whatever but the birth delivered messmer a body with red hair and snake curse from within or maybe that was the curse of Marika killing that thing that had power to complete her own divinity,The whole world of the land between always has that notion of alot of outter powers waiting their turn to rule over by makine vessels within certain people. Messmer-the epssmol serpant Malenia-Rot Moghwin-the formless mother Ranni is a maybe with the moon ohh Ranni killed Godwin her choosen husband by the fingers,Why? well Radagon her dad broke her mother's heart and her mother became nothing but a lost soul hardly resambling herself. Godwin was either favored from the greater will or from the fingers for his achievements and strength in both mind and power. Ranni also realise the same situation of the fingers and becoming a vessel for outter power making her a prisoner so she made the move of killing her husband in soul and herself in body. Ironically she refused the rune of rebirth that allows you to "born a new" and that rune was left by Radagon to Renalla the queen of the full moon,That what i think though when it stated that Ranni. casted out her rune because the bosses we defeat all the time must be a child from either Radagon or Marika that holds the great runes or shard of the Elden ring, i kinda doubt that we did not see Ranni's rune because we get to see the curropted ones of Moghwin and Malenia blad of Miquella,Miquella's rune as well we get to have even after being broken in the dlc
Even worse when I saw people make the connection that the "whistling" sound you hear when Melina picks up Torrent's ring, is probably actually Torrent's death throes as the ring burns away, betrayed by its chosen rider (you)
Kales dialogue in the catacombs is from a cut questline I think. Such a shame. The VA does an excellent job and I would have loved to have more interactions with him. It also adds to the frenzied flame ending.
This is about the frenzied flame ending and I'm not sure one ending is more canon than the others. It's the only ending in wich Melina doesn't have to die but she hates you for it and she will hunt you and try to kill you with destined death.
Yeah I think his regular switching of outfits for the player character is more confusing in this than his other videos. I think that's mainly because his character looks like Edgar and later he wears Vikes armour. I think he chose to do that because Shabriri also uses the bodies of others to spread chaos and Vikes armour is very symbolic as vike tried and failed to do what you did. But still those choices don't help in making the video more understandable if you haven't dived into the lore.
In addition you can cheat this ending in a few ways. You can for example burn Melina and then aquire the frenzied flame which will result in her not being able to hunt you down. You can use the flame to burn the tree with the flame and then get rid of it with Miquelas needle and do one of the other endings. Technically this is the best ending as you spare Melina but also don't burn down the world.
Also frenzied flame is the worst ending in my book as you burn even Torrents ring whistle aka kill Torrent and no ending where you are that ungratefull to the best boy is acceptable.
Hello, have you watched more general lore videos before that one? You seem to lack some understanding of the lore for this video to be more impactful.
Basically this is a story about one of the ending, when you the player character inherit the flame of frenzy, that allows you to spare Melina and to burn the Erdtree yourself but you become the lord of Chaos in the process and you burn the whole world to the ground in this ending.
Melina hates you for this, she warned you against the frenzied flame, and in the last scene we see her with her eye finally opened revealing her ties to the Gloam Eyed Queen, and now she wants to kill you with the power the GEQ once wielded, Destined Death.
It's the player character you see fighting Vyke and talking to Shabriri, i agree he made his character kinda look like Edgar, the father of Irina and its a little confusing.
And Shabriri is an agent of Chaos, i dont know exactly what he is but he uses appearances of dead people to guide people like Vyke and yourself on the path to become lord of frenzied flame/chaos.
Hope this helps. 😅
Hahaha, nope, this was my first one and I only ever got the "Age of the Stars" ending!
Now it makes a lot more sense, oh god, thanks for that! Especially now that you mention that it's actually not Irinas father LOL
I feel I gotta dive more into the lore
Niiiiice that you react to his Lore videos :D
Melina is the glumed eye queen,her soul became part of Marika's and split away as Marika's daughter,Melina as the glum eye queen was tasked to put an end to every asended like Marika but Marika sent her own shadown -Maliketh the black blade- or Maliketh the dogo
Marika did not kill the glum eye queen fully,instead she wished to make her own age continues with souls going to the erdtree,bodies to furtilies it and rebirth of the same souls but within new bodies but Marika after long search finds that her existance is nothing but a prison she created herself.
Marika's finale affort is to guide Melina to burn down the Erdtree and something else(we do not know but maybe- it was what Melina made us do after) Sending us to Malkeith to get the death rune to put it back into the Elden ring.
My specillation was from the game and dlc
The greater will is like any outer power in the stars like the crusables,The formless mother,the Rot...etc
The crusables age was with the hornsent but within their own murbide actions of Making,Marika's people ((the shamens)) to be stuffed into pots after being whipped with sharpen rotten teeth whip that split their skin open to cause them to enfuse with hornsent sinners to be saints -It is like your uncle find out of you drinking so in order to make you good boy or girl,He turn you into a centipede with a man or a woman of god- (it is morbide after all) the hornsent what so ever did not know if that would work really,spoillers: it did not at all,instead the shammens now is in agony as their body became a mix of flesh latshing on their own real body,We do not know what those hornsent sinners did really but imagin walking with thief or a murderors body trying to bust out from within your own skin daily.the worst part though the shammens do not have signs of knowing what they are anymore,Their mind became one with all of those within them and every single pot holds from 2 to 4 bodies even in some cases there are those with 10 shoved inside one pot.
The shammens devotion within the crusables was simply being one with nature after death,Like munkes in budisem as you can find Marika's Grandmother's body (figurtively or phsically) became part of a tree.
Marika goes on to make the hornsent to pay for their own actions by turning them on each other in a way,She instructed them to make the gate that would lead them to connection with the outter space powers (the gate of divinity) by sacrifices of other hornsent bodies,She seduced someone or something but she killed it,after walking out of the gate of divinity
we do not know what was the thing she married,seduced or whatever but the birth delivered messmer a body with red hair and snake curse from within or maybe that was the curse of Marika killing that thing that had power to complete her own divinity,The whole world of the land between always has that notion of alot of outter powers waiting their turn to rule over by makine vessels within certain people.
Messmer-the epssmol serpant
Malenia-Rot
Moghwin-the formless mother
Ranni is a maybe with the moon
ohh Ranni killed Godwin her choosen husband by the fingers,Why?
well Radagon her dad broke her mother's heart and her mother became nothing but a lost soul hardly resambling herself.
Godwin was either favored from the greater will or from the fingers for his achievements and strength in both mind and power.
Ranni also realise the same situation of the fingers and becoming a vessel for outter power making her a prisoner so she made the move of killing her husband in soul and herself in body.
Ironically she refused the rune of rebirth that allows you to "born a new" and that rune was left by Radagon to Renalla the queen of the full moon,That what i think though when it stated that Ranni. casted out her rune because the bosses we defeat all the time must be a child from either Radagon or Marika that holds the great runes or shard of the Elden ring,
i kinda doubt that we did not see Ranni's rune because we get to see the curropted ones of Moghwin and Malenia blad of Miquella,Miquella's rune as well we get to have even after being broken in the dlc