Awesome Cardboard Spool Hack For Bambulab X1 Carbon
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2024
- How to move your Cardboard Spools over to Bambulab spools for easy printing in the AMS.
Links:
Scotch Exterior Surface Weatherproof Painter's Tape: amzn.to/3XAUu7L
OVERTURE PLA Matte Filament: amzn.to/3lIOYCV
Bambu Reusable Spool: us.store.bambu...
FoodSaver Vacuum Sealer (Updated Version): amzn.to/3XzA5jn
Vacuum Seal Freezer Bags: amzn.to/3IuoSfQ
Cardboard Spool Ring for Bambu Lab AMS: www.printables...
I didn't mention this but you can also add these adapters into the cardboard for a tighter fit.
Overature: www.printables...
Polymaker: www.printables...
Unofficial Filament Spool Compatibility Spreadsheet: docs.google.co...
Just to add: this trick only works with spools that are exactly the same width. Sadly, the cardboard spools I have are less wide so for me the best option was to use electrical tape and wrap that all around the edges of the cardboard spools. Works like a charm.
yeah i found that the hard way the cardboard spools are not same width
@@sgt.miningdrill2680 Oh no.. I hope you managed to recover at least part of your roll? :-||
@@MarinusMakesStuff i made my own spool holder that can be put in drill chuck
then i just needed to slowly roll everything back on
i made it with two aluminium can bottoms, bolt and 2 nuts
Yep, I almost ruined a 1k roll this way trying to transfer Jayo 😢
Coming from a guy who runs pretty much exclusively Polymaker Filament, this is seriously the best. I have trouble with Polymaker’s cardboard spools all the time.
I think for someone like you thenpolymaker spools can be really annoying in the ams, but the cardboard makes problems in so many other spool holder types... I just like the replaceable spools of bambulab a lot more.
@@Pidrittel can agree. I’ve been printing up reusable spools to start moving rolls over from the cardboard spools using this technique now.
They are really bad when the spools are full, the AMS gets stuck all the time. I am planning to replace all the spools and this is indeed a nice trick I'll give a try.
Happy to be subscriber #6
1. Had no idea the bambu rolls could be reused like that 😳
2. 100% trying this out
All Bambu filament comes spool-less... So they sell the reusable spools, it if you get an AMS on its own, it comes with 4 reusable spools. 1 high temp 90C and 3 regular 70C..
@@joeturczak5656 Bambu sells filament with a spool as well.
The Bambu printable spools also work well. I was surprised they would print so great. wiki.bambulab.com/en/knowledge-sharing/Links-to-STL-models
@@joeturczak5656 only comes with 3 spools now dont get white anymore
@@jamesharris9894 well that sucks...
What a great hack. Also very well explained. I used Frog Tape and my first try executed PERFECTLY!
Thank you.
This is a great solve for the cardboard spools issues. I put my tape sticky side out and laid the start of the filament on that, then wrapped around the filament. Then the only sticky bit is on the end of the filament after you remove the tape.
Thanks for the great hack!
Great video, thank you for this. The tape idea was the ingredient I was missing. One additional step I would suggest, cut the discarded cardboard spool sides and use as jambs to hold the plastic spool snug against the cardboard center.
This is a great idea, I just had an issue where the cardboard center was slipping on the spool when there wasn't much filament left and the AMS was trying to retract the filament. I might measure the distance between the spool and the cardboard so I can create a reusable jam so that it won't slip at all.
You can print plastic inserts to fit inside the cardboard spool to make it a perfect fit.
glad my post helped some folks out.
I like the way your AMS sits next to & not on top of your printer. 👍🏼
Unless you need the counter space.
I run Polymaker exclusively and I hated the idea of ripping cardboard from the spool and potentially wasting that whole spool. However, with the tape, this changes things quite a bit. Thank you for sharing this tip and I'm definitely going to be doing this going forward!
What a great video! I'm getting ready to purchase the X1C so this trick will come in handy. I am surprised how easy the cardboard spool comes apart. Great innovation there sir!
Overture filament is phenomenal
OMG you saved me today with this video!! Thanks!!!
Wish I saw this last week. I lost 4 hours of my life rescuing a new real of Support G filament switching between reals. Sounds like you’ve had the pleasure!
Outstanding video. My P1S is still in the box and about to set it up. I was excited about the refill roles and using less expensive filament. Your video was the best I've seen on the process of loading those roles. Thanks for sharing.
So far i have just wrapped the cardboard spools with electrical tape. I like this better. You could print the bambu spools in diffrent colors or even modifiy the spool size to be wider if needed.
WOW, you even make a google doc to help everyone out! Great work!
If you print the cardboard ring adapters in PETG at 95.9% and stretch them on it will work with the cardboard spools in the AMS
Good video. Just use a strip of card to wrap around the filament with 2 releasable lock ties. Saves you loads of money in tape.
Just what I was looking for. Carboard spools are cool and good for the environment (in the long run) but honestly I have grown afraid they will ruin my AMS. The rings do work when the spool is not full, but they are not a good solution. I just noticed the AMS works perfect with plastic spools no matter if they are Bambu spools or not. Polymaker spools are a pain for the AMS, at least until they are about half way empty. I guess the weight and the force of the AMS pulling on them just makes a sort of spring system that fails and the AMS gets stuck, not good for its gears. Will try this as it definitely saves a lot of time and effort respooling while I can keep buying filament in carboard spools.
I just use the cardboard filament as they are. If they aren't bent, they work on the AMS fine. Haven't had a problem with just cardboard at all
Super clever. I've been printing the "adapters" but this is lean and mean. Thanks so much!
This is a seriously innovative idea! Great video!
I like this idea. I tried to get a cardboard spool onto my reusable spool and well now it's a big spaghetti mess that l just print from a PVC pipe I claimed to my desk. Lol.. I'm going to try this next time.
Ive just been putting electrical tape around the rim of my overture and Polyterra cardboard spools. Been working fine for me. Electrical tape naturally contours the rim so it's easy.
Does it work well untill the end of the spool ? I read comments saying that cardboard spools were lighter and that they would slip when almost empty. Some people add descicant in a printed holder in the center of the spool to add mass while also keeping the humidity down in the ams.
@@ockay16 it does work all the way to the end. That's all I've been using. The spool does bounce a little towards the end still. I haven't added a dessicant weight to it yet, but I might. I do have dessicant in the AMS and it's been staying at 10% humidity.
As the electrical tape wears down you'll likely get into the adhesive and that adhesive will ruin your rollers.
lol, nah@@tysoncolley8110
Very good tip, thank you.
Thanks so much for this presentation. New Bambu user this was extremely helpful.
Good solution. Thanks! Those cardboard rings are not reliable enough and touch the ams case sometimes. I was going to re-wind the entire roll onto a new spool. This is better! Thanks for the video!
This is great. I don’t think you need the tape so much but I haven’t tried this yet so can’t say for sure.
Great job! Just got my AMS today with 4 spools and looking at the tower of shame in the corner of my room, I couldn't be happier to start buying just the refills.
I missed the bit where you talk how the filament start is attached to the cardboard roll and how to transfer that to plastic. Must watch again.
Good tip and video for others that use filament on cardboard spools. I do the same thing but all that tape isn't necessary and it's just wasteful. Simply tape down your loose end (start) of filament and rip once of the cardboard sides out. Then you slide on the one half of the Bambu reusable spool, flip over and do the same. My two cents ;-)
Really wish I had seen this anytime before last night when I literally respond an entire thing of filament onto a bamboo lab spool😮
Awesome. Just did this and it worked perfectly. Thank you.
not a bambu user, and I had a lot of plastic spools till recently (finally using up a spool of filament or two). I thought about the plastic rings to reinforce the spools, but maybe I'll work out something like bambu's two part spool to swap the filament from a cardboard spool.
Just wondering if the tape leaves any residue on the filament, and if it does could it one day cause an issue ?
The painter’s tape to hold the filament is a great idea, I would have never thought of using it to secure the roll. Why the outdoor painters tape over the blue indoor? Thanks for sharing!
I have Elegoo spools and there is a cap for elegoo spools which fits great, I also have the esun caps which work great to.
I'm so glad my favorite filament works perfectly in the AMS.
Edit:
Esun.
Some great ideas here! Thanks!
nice. i have had problems with some of my cardboard rolls getting stuck. Will definitely be trying this.
Nice idea but all my cardboard spools seem the wrong size. My Eryone ones don't fit at all and my eSun ones look to small too. the overture ones fit but they are wider and seem loose.
what stops filament from moving on the spool mate? im sure u noticed bbl filament refills come with a notch u align with the spool. might be worth mentioning for those new to printing ✌
Cardboard spools work fine for me in the AMS.
Freaking cool tip! Thanks!!
Might want to also remove the RFID tag on the Bambu spool - so it stops loading it as support filament. :)
I like it... thanks 👍🏻 just wish Bambu had the empty spools back in stock.
They did today (2023-03-15) and I bought a few of them.
My guy thanks! I’ve been using my drill to transfer it and it’s so time consuming.
Would taping the spool where cardboard contacts the rollers be easier instead?
Hey, thank you.
Is the end of the filament secured to the inner cardboard hub? Never tried this, but I would think the end needs to be secured to the spool for ams rewinds towards the end of the filament.
Amazing, I cant to wait to get rid of all of my Elegoo, Overture cardboard spools!
Thanks! Great hack!
Nooooooooooo way!!!! Hey hey thank you so much!!!
if I needed to do that for every spool i buy I need to hire some guy for a full time job lol. i dropped all cardboard spool companies cause of this. I recently had the problem with Polymaker PC Max on cardboard and used the original printed adapter for AMS. Files made by polymaker. Even then it not fit really. Unfortunately it is one of the better PC filament you can buy. On normal PLA and PETG I avoid to buy cardboard spools.
Thank! Great idea!
Once it comes over the edge of the
inner core you're screwed. 😆- Good idea with the tape.
Great content Sir
So smart, that you do everything with THE BACK TO YOUR CAMERA
Those orange rings work for inland spools?
why did i print a 15hour spool changer when its so easy.... thank you
Given that moisture is the mortal enemy of 3D filament. And given that cardboard is likely a moisture sponge. Isn't it a bad idea for the industry to be standardizong on cardboard?
Will this work with Eryone brand? Eryone starts to ship with cardboard spool. Thank you
Make sure the cardboard insert is the correct size before you try this, I’ve wasted an entire roll of filament because the inner spool was to small to go over the bambu spool
Finally a video of this. I’ve heard rumors of this but nothing showing exactly what to do to prevent birds nesting. Does the cardboard feel snug on the center portion of the spool or does it feel loose?
Been doing this since day 1 and gone through 2 spools of polymaker without issue. The printed remixed holders also work. Don't even need tape, just rip one side off, insert and flip, repeat.
I just did this and unfortunately the cardboard will spin a bit. While the spool is full there's enough filament to hold it snug against the sidewalls, but once the filament is mostly empty it's going to spin. I'll open it halfway and stuff some wadded up paper in between the cardboard roll and the plastic roll, to give it a bit more friction.
@@MrNeek69 I used the cardboard from the discarded spool sides as jambs.
Well Done! Thanx
Thank you!!!!
Would this work with elegoo rolls
Which cardboard spool are you using? I have heard Extrudr spools would fit well
But the notch on the Overture cardboard spool core does not lock into the nub on the plastic Bambu spool core like their own refills do, so it could easily spin in the AMS without pulling the filament out when the AMS Unloads during a filament change. The Overture cardboard core is much larger than the Bambu refill cardboard cores. Overture would need to match Bambu's core diameter for your plan to work. I like your idea, and it would be nice if they did, but they don't. 😂
In the description for this. There is a spool adapter for Overture. I plan on making a updated video showing the spool adapter. It still works without it but works better as you are saying with the adapter as it had the notch.
Great 👍🏻
What do you do for polymaker rolls that have a bigger inner diameter? I did this with a couple of my polymaker rolls buy for some reason my black polymaker roll had a bigger inside diameter and would spin inside the bambu spool so I had to cut some cardboard up to fill the air gap so it was snug
the inner carboard from a bambu refill slips perfectly inside a polymaker center hub.
Nice, gonna try this out with polymaker.
What are you doing about the NFC tag showing the AMS it's the other type of filament?
The NFC tag is part of the roll that get removed during this process. Once its removed you need to manually select the type of filliment for the AMS
@@timpmcfadden Oh perfect, I didn't realize this and though the tag was on the spool holder. Thanks!
great idea but it does not work with a proto-pasta spool. the core is to big.
You will need a spool adapter to make it work. I plan on making a follow-up video. cults3d.com/en/3d-model/tool/bambu-lab-protopasta-spool-holder-for-ams
thank you i'll be printing these asap!
Doesn't work with all cardboard spools. The inside diameter on some is not the same and the Bambu spool won't fit inside.
Just tried this .. the new bambu spools that are shipped with the AMS, have a smaller core in outer diameter, compared to the cardboard spools inner core... leaving about 1/4 inch of play within the cardboard core.. aka filament rolls freely inside the bambu spools... anyway around that?
Yes, way too loose. I had to design and print a ring to go around the cardboard core as a shim, fitting between it and the Bambu spool. It was a simple design using TinkerCad. Dimensions were 82mm ID, 90mm OD, 55 mm tall.
@@Mike-wc6iy thanks for the info but I made one as well lol
No need for tape on a new spool, it will never move as long as you hold the end of the filament through the spool hole on the other side.
this feels like those unskipable facebook videos that are unnecessarily long to force you to watch the whole thing. At least here you can skip.
I get the vacuum, but why the gas bottle?
Thats part of my welder 😃. Nothing do do with the vacuum or 3d printer.
Does the bambu setttings for generic pla work well for Overture PLA ?
It does. I use mostly Overture matte PLA on the generic PLA setting with zero issues.
Just make some edging pieces that work.
If you're going to go through all this hassle to reuse the Bambu spools, why not just buy refills instead of cardboard spools? Many companies sell refills not on spools, that you can just drop onto the bambo core and roll on. Also, this assumes that you have a bunch of empty Bambu spools laying around...
Tape adhesive residue contaminates the material.
Sadly this doesn't work with ProtoPasta reels :/
Ever had a cardboard spool so wide that the Bambu spool would not lock together? This would be something to be aware of or you could have a big mess on your hands.
Others have had this issue as well. I would be nice to have a list of spools that work. I should have said that you should take an old spool without much filliment left on it and test it first before trying with a new spool.
@@timpmcfadden i have a roll of polymaker cotton white that for some reason is wider and taller than every other cardboard spool i've got including other polymakers. with a plastic rim and a single piece of duck tape for extra security to prevent slippage, it was wide enough to get stuck. hoping swapping the spool to one of bambu's empties will do the trick for me
Super useful but doesn't work with all types of filaments, I tried this using eryone white PLA and the diameter of the center was smaller than the bambu plastic spool and now I have a bunch of unspooled filament 😂
Sorry yeah works with Overature, Polymaker, and Inland. I would recommend testing with a empy spool first.
It is too bad this does not work for Eryone spools.
People do not know what hacks are anymore 🤣🤣... this is not a hack, this is the NORMAL how to, if the spool is similar size, not a hack.
That's alot of work when ypu can just put electrical or duct tape around the edge of the cardboard spool.
I was using the plastic spools rings, same as electrical tape. I created this method when a couple new spools I opened were dented, bent or warped and the rolls were wobbling around in the AMS and was really frustrated and ripped the sides of them. Since I have started using this method for all my spools I have had zero issue with the AMS.
dont be so fucking cheap and buy enough bambu until u have enough rolls
Great video Timothy, Thanks for sharing. I will post this on my group. 3DHP. Subbed to you also.
Awesome, thank you!
This is waste of time. I use many of the cardboard spool filaments on my P1P. You don"t need to transfer it to Bambu lab spool or print the liner. I just use the 10mm electrical insulation tape around the cardboard spool on both sides. It works fine without any problem, and rolls better.
The fact you said it rolls better when it’s not cardboard is the reason to just put it on a plastic reel.
just respool it
creative, but way too much of a hassle for me. If printed rings won't work I would simply switch to another brand with plastic spools. Enough choice on the market. Thinking about doing that for every roll of filament I use is giving me anxiety 🤣
I agree it’s a pain. But sunlu doesn’t have as many colors as overature or polymaker. Also most manufacturers have switched to using cardboard spools.
@@timpmcfadden True, just got a big box of filament from my main supplier...and they have switched to cardboard. A good thing normally, just a pain now with the AMS
There's no way I'm going to that much effort to UNLOAD a Bambu roll - you might as well just print a new spool with the cheapest filament on earth.
Did you borrow your neighbors scissors? (asking for a friend)
This looks like a giant pain in the ass, I hope this doesn’t become the norm.
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Waaaay too much work and material waste.
It is a pity the end users have to spend time and money to make a product released on the market fit for purpose. The AMS unit is a waste of time and money.
I could still see something, maybe turn all the way so we could see all of your back not what you were doing. 🙄😅