Solid video. Making chairs has always been a daunting task for me, definitely a market for the one-stop-shop experience though. I learned from your video that there is no substitute for templates and jigs when batching these things out. Thanks for sharing!
Really nice build quality on the chairs. Well done. Also, when you're talking about the mortise/tenon's around 10:20, you're basically making a mortise and tenon. Just instead of cutting it all from one piece, you're inserting it in the form of a dowel. Same principle. Cheers!
Yeah dowel versus mortise and tenon are very similar. Both joints are strong but if I was intentionally making a visible joint, I would definitely make a mortise and tenon.
I am watching chair making videos to prepare to make a set of dining chairs for my home. Thank you for this video - the best at explaining the process I’ve watched. You have a gift for explaining complex tasks in easily accessible terms. One question, did you consider contouring the seats?
I used red oak for everything. Also I have digital templates and plans available to make these same chairs. It may seem overwhelming looking at the whole chair, but when you break it down piece by piece it’s relatively simple.
I currently do not have the plans for sale but I have seen some interest so I will likely put together some plans for purchase in the near future. Check in at a later date on my website or email me about it.
I wonder how those chair backs and legs hold up over time, being cut into curves instead of bent. Never built anything like that so it makes me curious if the grain splits over time and use.
I doubt the direction of the grain will affect it. The radius is not tight enough to compromise the pieces. If it was a tighter radius you may run into problems in certain scenarios. In situations like that steam bending or gluing and forming laminations into the pieces makes more sense.
Beautiful chairs and nice video. One question, how did you attach the chair seat? I saw a glue bottle come out in your assembly but I couldn't tell if you glued it in or if there were dowels too?
The seat was glued on and also has a total of 8 pocket screws holding it tight to all the supporting pieces. No dowels are really needed. It’s not a sheer load on the connection. Only sheer load points are the connecting points on the legs.
My son and I just spent the $35 to get the plans. I appreciate the templates, but was surpised there was no cut list, an indication of board feet needed or any instructions. How do you make the curved cuts on your templates?
The document you purchased has a rough dimensions cut list for each piece on the last page. Because it depends on what material you buy the board feet needed can vary. It may be hard to find lumber in certain dimensions in different areas so I give you the option to buy whatever wood is easily available to you. Depending on what tools you have you can cut the radius with a jigsaw and clean it up with a sander to make your templates. An alterative if you have a drill press or regular drill you can get a small drum sander that you can chuck into a drill. If you need help with anything or aren't sure you understand something you can send me an email.
@@pinerowfurniture Thank you for your prompt answer. I was completely wrong and I apologize for taking up your time. I only saw the first page of those chairs plans, so that is my fault. The document is extremely well done and I appreciate it - it is EXACTLY what we need! Thanks, also, for the suggestion on those curved cuts. As we all know, a new project is always a good reason to get a new tool! :)
Some people have asked and now you shall receive. I have the digital plans and templates for the chair available now on my site. www.pinerowfurniture.com/product-page/dining-chair-plans
As someone with hearing damage from being overseas, seeing you using the router without hearing protection made me cringe. You'll regret this later. But the build, is absolutely amazing! Great job.
I have hearing damage from being in the trades too, mostly from powder actuated tools. That router isn’t that loud with a flush cut bit. But if I throw in a giant raised panel bit in there that thing screams like a banshee. I’ll wear hearing protection when doing that though haha.
Maybe I could do a video comparing similar sized joints with dowels and mortise and tenons. I have a small hydraulic press but I need to find a pressure gauge of some kind. I am curious as to what the difference would be.
@@pinerowfurniture its more the glue surface area than strength, on the long Grain side the dowel has complete glue strength, when you drill across the grain there is only a sliver of long rain glue surface, there is mostly some part of end grain if that makes any sense. the mortise has a flat surface that when cut properly has a lot of end grain, and when I build a chair I will double them so I double the glue surface area,
@@adamchesis7443 Yeah increasing the glue surface area is one of the key points to a strong glue joint. 95% of the time any joint failure is just the wood cracking or breaking away from the actual wood glue. It usually leaves a thin layer of wood stuck to the glue itself. The wood will break before the glue itself cracks.
I love your table.
Thoroughly enjoyed this video, loved your woodworking purist comment! Lol ... Looking forward to Part 2
I’ll hopefully have the other video uploaded shortly.
Well done! Been wanting to make chairs and the use of templates never occurred to me. Thank you for pointing it out!
For consistency it can’t be beat.
Super set. thanks for video.
Solid video. Making chairs has always been a daunting task for me, definitely a market for the one-stop-shop experience though. I learned from your video that there is no substitute for templates and jigs when batching these things out. Thanks for sharing!
Having a template or jig is definitely a must for accurate repeatable cuts and pieces.
Oh uh
Please get a starter pin for your router table, it will help you control going into it and to handle kickback better.
I do have a starter pin and it would have likely made my life easier. Most of the time I forget that I have it.
Great Video! keep up the good work
Thanks!
Really nice build quality on the chairs. Well done. Also, when you're talking about the mortise/tenon's around 10:20, you're basically making a mortise and tenon. Just instead of cutting it all from one piece, you're inserting it in the form of a dowel. Same principle. Cheers!
Yeah dowel versus mortise and tenon are very similar. Both joints are strong but if I was intentionally making a visible joint, I would definitely make a mortise and tenon.
I am watching chair making videos to prepare to make a set of dining chairs for my home. Thank you for this video - the best at explaining the process I’ve watched. You have a gift for explaining complex tasks in easily accessible terms. One question, did you consider contouring the seats?
I did consider contouring the seats. I felt that it wouldn’t fit the style really. Could be done after it’s assembled if you wanted though.
I don’t have nearly the skill set it takes to make chairs (YET). Great video. What type of wood are you using? Subscriber #415
I used red oak for everything. Also I have digital templates and plans available to make these same chairs. It may seem overwhelming looking at the whole chair, but when you break it down piece by piece it’s relatively simple.
Hello do you have plans for the chairs or the templates
I currently do not have the plans for sale but I have seen some interest so I will likely put together some plans for purchase in the near future. Check in at a later date on my website or email me about it.
I wonder how those chair backs and legs hold up over time, being cut into curves instead of bent. Never built anything like that so it makes me curious if the grain splits over time and use.
I doubt the direction of the grain will affect it. The radius is not tight enough to compromise the pieces. If it was a tighter radius you may run into problems in certain scenarios. In situations like that steam bending or gluing and forming laminations into the pieces makes more sense.
@@pinerowfurniture sounds good. It's a nice design. Definitely may borrow it in the future 🤔
I have digital templates and plans available if your interested for the chairs. Link is in the description.
Subscriber #154, just saying. Great video
Thanks for subscribing!
Beautiful chairs and nice video. One question, how did you attach the chair seat? I saw a glue bottle come out in your assembly but I couldn't tell if you glued it in or if there were dowels too?
The seat was glued on and also has a total of 8 pocket screws holding it tight to all the supporting pieces. No dowels are really needed. It’s not a sheer load on the connection. Only sheer load points are the connecting points on the legs.
My son and I just spent the $35 to get the plans. I appreciate the templates, but was surpised there was no cut list, an indication of board feet needed or any instructions. How do you make the curved cuts on your templates?
The document you purchased has a rough dimensions cut list for each piece on the last page. Because it depends on what material you buy the board feet needed can vary. It may be hard to find lumber in certain dimensions in different areas so I give you the option to buy whatever wood is easily available to you. Depending on what tools you have you can cut the radius with a jigsaw and clean it up with a sander to make your templates. An alterative if you have a drill press or regular drill you can get a small drum sander that you can chuck into a drill. If you need help with anything or aren't sure you understand something you can send me an email.
@@pinerowfurniture Thank you for your prompt answer. I was completely wrong and I apologize for taking up your time. I only saw the first page of those chairs plans, so that is my fault. The document is extremely well done and I appreciate it - it is EXACTLY what we need! Thanks, also, for the suggestion on those curved cuts. As we all know, a new project is always a good reason to get a new tool! :)
Some people have asked and now you shall receive. I have the digital plans and templates for the chair available now on my site. www.pinerowfurniture.com/product-page/dining-chair-plans
As someone with hearing damage from being overseas, seeing you using the router without hearing protection made me cringe. You'll regret this later. But the build, is absolutely amazing! Great job.
I have hearing damage from being in the trades too, mostly from powder actuated tools. That router isn’t that loud with a flush cut bit. But if I throw in a giant raised panel bit in there that thing screams like a banshee. I’ll wear hearing protection when doing that though haha.
I like how you said from scratch, and started by using templates and jigs!!??
I created the design and templates myself from scratch. Also milled the lumber myself. It’s the equivalent of farm to table lol.
Just a thought, video ( you can probably guess) is a visual medium so we really don't need the running play by play. 😮
dowels are in no way as strong as mortises
Maybe I could do a video comparing similar sized joints with dowels and mortise and tenons. I have a small hydraulic press but I need to find a pressure gauge of some kind. I am curious as to what the difference would be.
@@pinerowfurniture its more the glue surface area than strength, on the long Grain side the dowel has complete glue strength, when you drill across the grain there is only a sliver of long rain glue surface, there is mostly some part of end grain if that makes any sense. the mortise has a flat surface that when cut properly has a lot of end grain, and when I build a chair I will double them so I double the glue surface area,
@@adamchesis7443 Yeah increasing the glue surface area is one of the key points to a strong glue joint. 95% of the time any joint failure is just the wood cracking or breaking away from the actual wood glue. It usually leaves a thin layer of wood stuck to the glue itself. The wood will break before the glue itself cracks.
@@pinerowfurniture if the joint is properly fit and glued yes the wood will break before the joint