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I saw a neat trick once, about the corkscrew: it is a perfect combo with the sawblade. It can be used to cut branches high up, by screwing the SAK to a stick, hold it in position with cordage/adhesive tape and you're good to go
@@urbanknifeguy Actually I do, it was from a fellow youtuber: Channel: TA Outdoors Video: 10 Wilderness Survival Tips | Bushcraft Skills Minute: 9:51 - 11:50
Really useful info. I own both the Soldier and the Trekker but have only used the latter out in the woods. It worked very well for me. While I like the Soldier model layout, I am not a fan of the combination blade. I prefer a straight edge. Looks like I might have to invest in a Forrester.
I do a lot of bushwalking and camping, and I use the one-hnaded version of the Locksmith. It's a real shame they discontinued it as it's a fantastic knife. One handed smooth edge locking blade, really good saw, phillips head driver, and the metal saw/file, which is a really, really useful tool that is sorely underated. It's great for stripping bark when working with wood, and it's an absolutely excellent ferro-rod striker, and I also use it as a foot file on long hikes. Scales have tooth-pick (swapped for ferro-rod) and tweezers (really useful). Got the awl, bottle-lifter/flat-head and tin opener as well (which I do still use on occasion). The bottle lifter locks as well, and I use it for prying things. Overall I prefer the smooth blade. It's incredibly versatile, and as you have a really good saw anyway, it's better to have variety. Also, it's way easier to sharpen.
Another great video! With knives this large, have you considered the Ruike LD series? They are 114mm long. The LD42B adds a couple of tools to the Forester, including scissors and a rope cutter. There is no can opener, but the awl is in line and it has tweezers in the scales. It's a bit heavier with the extra tools and length.
I‘ve got the Soldier, the Forester and the Outrider. The Outrider has the most useful combination if tools, but it is to big and heavy for my pocket. So I have to carry it in a pouch. The Soldier is practical for its one-handed opening, but when using the saw the protruding blade will dig into my fingers and make it uncomfortable to hold. So it‘s the Forester which I‘m carrying the most. I prefer the corkscrew over the screwdriver. For outdoor use it‘s better. And for technical devices a longer and finer in-line Phillips screwdriver (like in the Outrider) is better.
the bump in the one hand blade is in the way of the hand when the saw is being used. the trailmaster is better just for that. The serrated blade reduce the versatility of the main blade and the bump reduce the penetration. My experience... Thank you for share!
I disagree. You can easily tie knots that you can undo, or you can use the awl or a pick or something to undo a knot. The corkscrew is what RUINS 90% of victorinox knives.
I also disagree. You need a phillips to take care of your other outdoor gear. A SAK is a multitool and should include a phillips. I do like how the corkscrew can carry the mini screwdriver though.
The Version you are looking for is the Forester M grip with order code 0.8361.MWC It is just like yours in red but has serrations (combo): one handed opening, serrated blade and cork screw
I like the Forester. It has almost all the tools i would want for bushcraft. I still want the scissors but that’s not a big deal. If not the Forester then I’d choose the one on the left because i hate serrated blades and i would use the screwdriver to punch with in self-defense.
These knives do dull faster than others but you can sharpen them so fast or just keep them sharp with a simple stone or diamond rod. Some harder steels last longer but they can be tricky to sharpen if you aren’t experienced or don’t have a sophisticated sharpening device. Me, I’m very experienced with sharpening freehand, and I have the jigs to sharpen knives also but it is nice to have a blade that can sharpen so easily without much trouble. This is a great bushcraft steel. I just chose to have 30 different knives of all different steels lol 🤦♂️
The SAK Ranger has a metal file which can be used to get to hot items in the fire. Items like Trangia alcohol burner or any other metal objects without burning your hand(s).
I'm in the bush constantly but have never warmed up to the 111 SAK's. The liner lock tabs, especially the pointless one for the screwdriver, create an uncomfortable pressure point when doing heavy cutting. Too, the liner layout is difficult to clean, so I dislike using them for cleaning fish or game. In short I much prefer the comfortable grip and extra blade of the 91mm. Between a Fieldmaster and a hatchet there are very few wilderness problems that cant be solved.
If im going to be doing bushcraft type tasks id have a fixed blade and a smaller Victorinox like a Farmer or Camper. If I was hiking and camping, not staying anywhere long one of these knives would be great, the one on the right with red scales would be ideal, harder to loose and the tweezers to extract thorns.
Quality content as always, keep it coming bro! Here in the UK the Trailmaster is the designation for 2 types, the one you have (the black one) and the one-handed version. It's only the Soldier if it has those nylon grip scales in olive green and the date stamp on the blade tang. Also there is the German Army Knife which is the same except that it has smooth nylon scales with the German Eagle embossed on it. I opted for the Soldier as I like European issue and surplus gear but that's just me. In all honesty I reckon the straight blade is better.
Thanks for watching and your regular comments. I think if they offered the Soldier in a straight edge option as well, it will sell well. The US Army version is similar as the GAK but for some reason is much more expensive.
@@urbanknifeguy I never saw the US version on sale, but with me it was a choice between the German and Swiss military issue versions. I prefer European military issue and surplus gear for bushcrafting and camping, mine is a mix of British, Dutch, German and Swiss kit.
I prefer my OH Trekker for all-around utility, tho I also have a Soldier, Nomad, Outrider, and Adventurer in the 111mm line. I haven't had that much trouble using it for bushcrafting, i.e. carving feathersticks, cutting up food and cordage, sawing sticks for campcrafts. It's also handy around the house with the three screwdrivers, for minor repairs, and in the kitchen, where I still have plenty of cans and bottles to open! ;)
My edc is the red scaled one hand opener. My only disappointment was the point on the blade. It could not poke open even a plastic bag the way it was made, so I took my Drexel tool and ground it so it has a sharp point. Otherwise, it is an ideal carry knife. With the ring on the end, I braided some fire paracord, so I have some cordage with it!
You can always use a tweezers to get wood splinters out and I don't see a use for a screwdriver if you are out in the woods without any equipment so I would go with the black handled one plus you are able to put a Ferro rod in it just in case you forgot to bring matches or a lighter.
In the UK, the Huntsman SAK is the best option for camping and hiking. The main blade is less than 3 inches long, is not locking and is thus compliant with UK knife law. I guess the Huntsman is also lighter than the larger SAKs you mention.
My only knock on the huntsman is that it has the corkscrew over the phillips. If you really are hunting, you may need that phillips to work on your gun.
@@pugilist102 in the UK, the vast majority of people will be camping and/or hiking, not hunting. Not many people own guns in the UK and of those who do, only a small minority hunt with them.
You won't need a Philips screw driver out in the woods... I also find the straight blade better than the serrated one... I agree, a Forrester may be the better choice.
I think if one has mechanical gear that needs a Philips head, it will be useful. But for the average user, I agree the corkscrew is infinitely more useful for bushcraft.
i have beenlooking at the two on the right but i want a straight edge knife with a screwdriver not a corkscrew... cuz like i dont think im gonna find any bottles that need opening in the bush
I has a solder knife I use for hunting but prefer my sak that is legal or my schrade barlow knife can't fault a sak they gets job done felix immler on youtube got me into them hes on youtube 👍🦊🐾🇬🇧
Oke wy do not have the army knife not a cork ? Easy the army knife is make to maintain your gun . That is the reason it have philips on it . Reason the real army do not have a sawblade is easy (make for Belgium, Germany and the Netherlands) You do not need it .
@@Oldnose63 no you have models . The last model do not have it. The saw is replace for a knife speciale for Animal to strip the skin of and clean the bones. Model for that one do have a sawblade on it. Thare 1-4 model and i have the model 4.
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I love the Outrider model.
Thanks! Good model.
I saw a neat trick once, about the corkscrew: it is a perfect combo with the sawblade. It can be used to cut branches high up, by screwing the SAK to a stick, hold it in position with cordage/adhesive tape and you're good to go
That is super awesome. Thanks! Do you remember where you saw it?
@@urbanknifeguy Actually I do, it was from a fellow youtuber:
Channel: TA Outdoors
Video: 10 Wilderness Survival Tips | Bushcraft Skills
Minute: 9:51 - 11:50
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Hard to beat the outrider for woodscraft aswell has scissors for trimming and small cutting and a small screwdriver for gear maintenace if necessary
Thanks for your input!
Really useful info. I own both the Soldier and the Trekker but have only used the latter out in the woods. It worked very well for me. While I like the Soldier model layout, I am not a fan of the combination blade. I prefer a straight edge. Looks like I might have to invest in a Forrester.
Thanks! The Forrester is the great IMO!
Been using a victorinox soldier 08 for 13 years. Still my favorite for hiking/ camping/bushcraft and survival
I do a lot of bushwalking and camping, and I use the one-hnaded version of the Locksmith. It's a real shame they discontinued it as it's a fantastic knife. One handed smooth edge locking blade, really good saw, phillips head driver, and the metal saw/file, which is a really, really useful tool that is sorely underated. It's great for stripping bark when working with wood, and it's an absolutely excellent ferro-rod striker, and I also use it as a foot file on long hikes. Scales have tooth-pick (swapped for ferro-rod) and tweezers (really useful). Got the awl, bottle-lifter/flat-head and tin opener as well (which I do still use on occasion). The bottle lifter locks as well, and I use it for prying things.
Overall I prefer the smooth blade. It's incredibly versatile, and as you have a really good saw anyway, it's better to have variety. Also, it's way easier to sharpen.
Thanks for comments and sharing your thoughts! Good points!
Another great video! With knives this large, have you considered the Ruike LD series? They are 114mm long. The LD42B adds a couple of tools to the Forester, including scissors and a rope cutter. There is no can opener, but the awl is in line and it has tweezers in the scales. It's a bit heavier with the extra tools and length.
Thanks! No, I do own any Ruike knives. I will check that one out!
I will with the soldier model!!
I got the Forrester in wood scales. Great knife for outdoors. I personally go on straight blade for bushcraft. All Victorinox knives are great
Nice knife! Thanks for sharing!
I‘ve got the Soldier, the Forester and the Outrider. The Outrider has the most useful combination if tools, but it is to big and heavy for my pocket. So I have to carry it in a pouch. The Soldier is practical for its one-handed opening, but when using the saw the protruding blade will dig into my fingers and make it uncomfortable to hold. So it‘s the Forester which
I‘m carrying the most. I prefer the corkscrew over the screwdriver. For outdoor use it‘s better. And for technical devices a longer and finer in-line Phillips screwdriver (like in the Outrider) is better.
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the bump in the one hand blade is in the way of the hand when the saw is being used. the trailmaster is better just for that. The serrated blade reduce the versatility of the main blade and the bump reduce the penetration. My experience... Thank you for share!
Thanks for sharing your experience!
I have the 110 mm Huntsman. That has two serrated one handed blades & the corkscrew
Nice!
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Nice! Thanks!
While I'm also a Forester fan i think you should still mention the rangergrip line to have a full coverage.
Fair enough! I will when I get one.
The corkscrew is a better option for bushcraft because it can be used to untie knots.
I carry either the 91mm Huntsman or the 130mm RangerGrip 79.
For me too! Thanks!
I disagree. You can easily tie knots that you can undo, or you can use the awl or a pick or something to undo a knot. The corkscrew is what RUINS 90% of victorinox knives.
I also disagree. You need a phillips to take care of your other outdoor gear. A SAK is a multitool and should include a phillips. I do like how the corkscrew can carry the mini screwdriver though.
The Version you are looking for is the Forester M grip with order code 0.8361.MWC
It is just like yours in red but has serrations (combo): one handed opening, serrated blade and cork screw
Thanks! But I do want the straight blade!
I like the Forester. It has almost all the tools i would want for bushcraft. I still want the scissors but that’s not a big deal. If not the Forester then I’d choose the one on the left because i hate serrated blades and i would use the screwdriver to punch with in self-defense.
Yes, I like it too! Thanks for watching!
These knives do dull faster than others but you can sharpen them so fast or just keep them sharp with a simple stone or diamond rod. Some harder steels last longer but they can be tricky to sharpen if you aren’t experienced or don’t have a sophisticated sharpening device. Me, I’m very experienced with sharpening freehand, and I have the jigs to sharpen knives also but it is nice to have a blade that can sharpen so easily without much trouble. This is a great bushcraft steel. I just chose to have 30 different knives of all different steels lol 🤦♂️
I carry the Forester, so that's what I choose.
It is becoming my preferred choice too!
I prefer the Outrider and straight blade!
Thanks for your comment!
I like the Rangergrip78 but i also have a Huntsman too. I also have a one handed Trekker and an Alox Farmer.
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The SAK Ranger has a metal file which can be used to get to hot items in the fire. Items like Trangia alcohol burner or any other metal objects without burning your hand(s).
Good tip. Thanks!
I'm in the bush constantly but have never warmed up to the 111 SAK's. The liner lock tabs, especially the pointless one for the screwdriver, create an uncomfortable pressure point when doing heavy cutting. Too, the liner layout is difficult to clean, so I dislike using them for cleaning fish or game. In short I much prefer the comfortable grip and extra blade of the 91mm. Between a Fieldmaster and a hatchet there are very few wilderness problems that cant be solved.
@bushleague3472 Thanks for sharing. I'm currently carrying the 91mm Camper.
My one hand Forester grip has combo blade. It was the common version here in México and mostly all America.
Thanks for sharing!
Very lovely and the intro is inviting.
Thanks so much!
Best is rangerdrip with saw. Big and poweful. Even 111mm forester for frendly picknik.
Thanks for your thoughts!
If im going to be doing bushcraft type tasks id have a fixed blade and a smaller Victorinox like a Farmer or Camper. If I was hiking and camping, not staying anywhere long one of these knives would be great, the one on the right with red scales would be ideal, harder to loose and the tweezers to extract thorns.
Great choices! Thanks for sharing!
I have the soldier knife and it's a nice knife though I wish it had tweezers in it since the civilian knifes in the same form factor manage it.
I think you can buy new scales and tweezers and toothpick (and pen?) easily. I’m trying to find them now
Quality content as always, keep it coming bro! Here in the UK the Trailmaster is the designation for 2 types, the one you have (the black one) and the one-handed version. It's only the Soldier if it has those nylon grip scales in olive green and the date stamp on the blade tang. Also there is the German Army Knife which is the same except that it has smooth nylon scales with the German Eagle embossed on it. I opted for the Soldier as I like European issue and surplus gear but that's just me. In all honesty I reckon the straight blade is better.
Thanks for watching and your regular comments. I think if they offered the Soldier in a straight edge option as well, it will sell well. The US Army version is similar as the GAK but for some reason is much more expensive.
@@urbanknifeguy I never saw the US version on sale, but with me it was a choice between the German and Swiss military issue versions. I prefer European military issue and surplus gear for bushcrafting and camping, mine is a mix of British, Dutch, German and Swiss kit.
I prefer my OH Trekker for all-around utility, tho I also have a Soldier, Nomad, Outrider, and Adventurer in the 111mm line. I haven't had that much trouble using it for bushcrafting, i.e. carving feathersticks, cutting up food and cordage, sawing sticks for campcrafts. It's also handy around the house with the three screwdrivers, for minor repairs, and in the kitchen, where I still have plenty of cans and bottles to open! ;)
PS I've had this one for 19 years, so lots of practice with it!
Nice! Thanks for sharing. Can't have too many SAKs!
My edc is the red scaled one hand opener. My only disappointment was the point on the blade. It could not poke open even a plastic bag the way it was made, so I took my Drexel tool and ground it so it has a sharp point. Otherwise, it is an ideal carry knife. With the ring on the end, I braided some fire paracord, so I have some cordage with it!
I'm surprised the point was not sharp. A Dremel sounds a bit extreme though! Be careful with the blade!
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You can always use a tweezers to get wood splinters out and I don't see a use for a screwdriver if you are out in the woods without any equipment so I would go with the black handled one plus you are able to put a Ferro rod in it just in case you forgot to bring matches or a lighter.
Agreed. Look out for a video later this week that talks about some of the things you mentioned.
Great review. I like the outrider model and also huntsman as well as Swiss champ.
@@user-ul5yu5hk9k All very popular models! I've never handled the Outrider though.
I like the one handed forester I'm left handed and it's the first knife that looks like it was designed for a lefty
Thanks for sharing! Yes I can understand that due to the position of the liner lock.
It wasnt
Straight edge for me and phillips head.
Trail master available with combo blade but it sucks when in a survival situation to re sharp the serrated edge
Yes good point about sharpening a serrated blade outfield!
You could manage to sharpen the serrations off with a river stone if absolutely had to I'd say take few hours maybe less
In the UK, the Huntsman SAK is the best option for camping and hiking. The main blade is less than 3 inches long, is not locking and is thus compliant with UK knife law.
I guess the Huntsman is also lighter than the larger SAKs you mention.
Fair enough! The huntsman is a great outdoor EDC! Thanks for sharing.
My only knock on the huntsman is that it has the corkscrew over the phillips. If you really are hunting, you may need that phillips to work on your gun.
@@pugilist102 in the UK, the vast majority of people will be camping and/or hiking, not hunting. Not many people own guns in the UK and of those who do, only a small minority hunt with them.
@@TheTerryMarsh1 True, though outdoor gear do have screws. In any case, the phillips is vastly more useful than the corkscrew.
@@pugilist102 each to his or her own! 😉
The 111mm ALPINEER Grip has a semi serrated blade and corkscrew but lacks the saw and screwdriver tools.
Thanks. I think the saw is essential for bushcraft.
You won't need a Philips screw driver out in the woods... I also find the straight blade better than the serrated one... I agree, a Forrester may be the better choice.
Thanks for watching and your comment!
The Skipper and the Picnicker From 2003 catalog.
That is retro! I have not handled any of them.
The phillips driver has no purpose in bushcraft, whereas the corkscrew can be used for corks, knots, attaching to a long pole for sawing etc.
I think if one has mechanical gear that needs a Philips head, it will be useful. But for the average user, I agree the corkscrew is infinitely more useful for bushcraft.
You won’t find many corks nowadays though.
@@Oldnose63 I think that depends a lot on location. But it's correct as a general rule.
Outside bushcraft, the corkscrew has little utility...
Great vid!
Thank you!
i have beenlooking at the two on the right but i want a straight edge knife with a screwdriver not a corkscrew... cuz like i dont think im gonna find any bottles that need opening in the bush
The corkscrew is very good for helping to untie knots, just an fyi. Also the can opener can be used on many Phillips head screws.
@@Olyphoto7 i wound up getting the one for the wine drinkers/knot undooers :P
Look out for an upcoming video on this later in the week!
@@sabinekatsavrias4422 good call
I've got the soldiers knife and hacked the sides to add tweezers, toothpick and a pin
Nice!
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I has a solder knife I use for hunting but prefer my sak that is legal or my schrade barlow knife can't fault a sak they gets job done felix immler on youtube got me into them hes on youtube 👍🦊🐾🇬🇧
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Oke wy do not have the army knife not a cork ?
Easy the army knife is make to maintain your gun .
That is the reason it have philips on it .
Reason the real army do not have a sawblade is easy (make for Belgium, Germany and the Netherlands)
You do not need it .
Thanks for your thoughts! Have a great day!
Hey now wait a minute: I have a Dutch army knife (10) and it has a saw… maybe there was a shortage and some time?
@@Oldnose63 no you have models .
The last model do not have it.
The saw is replace for a knife speciale for Animal to strip the skin of and clean the bones.
Model for that one do have a sawblade on it.
Thare 1-4 model and i have the model 4.