Salton Sea Documentary 2015: California's Sea: A Date With Destiny
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- Amidst the nationwide focus on the drought in California, a major environmental and public health concern has once again been set in the shadow for the law makers of Sacramento. But for the Salton Sea - California’s largest lake and home to more than 425 bird species on the pacific flyway, time is running out. Time is ticking until 2017, when water allocations in accordance with the Quantification Settlement Agreement (2003) are significantly reduced and directly affect the Salton Sea. The Salton Sea is already more than 25% saltier than the Pacific Ocean, and with reduced water and rising salinity this region will no longer be able to support environmental life. To make matters worse, as the water level reduces and exposes years of agricultural runoff, giant dust storms have the potential to plague areas as far as Los Angeles, San Diego, and Northern Mexico. This surrounding region already has some of the worst rates of asthma in the state, and the socioeconomic suppressed immigrant working communities are suffering and have nowhere to move. This issue is not just about international bird populations and the environment, its about social justice, and rights to clean air. California is running out of time after decades of political indecisiveness and costly studies, something has to be done now to “Save Our Sea”.
A short film project by Alex Cooke & Chris Norwood from Pitzer College Spring 2015.
I live in the area of the Salton Sea and I never really realized how big a problem it has been up until finding this video by accident.
I have lived in SoCal all my life and never knew the history of the Salton Sea. The Government keep it from us. I was told as a kid, by Family, that it was a large Salt Lake but not health to visit...that was over 30yrs ago and the Government has done nothing. Damn shame on you California!!!
The salton sea is one of my favorite topics to talk about
I would like to discuss it.
Why?
it fascinates me for some reason.Prob the only beach I could afford but I hate bad smells.
Me too, I talk about it all the time
Dumping sea water into a freshwater lake is stupidity. "Filtering" the water to reduce the salt entering the lake is impractical.
Everyone that keeps screaming out "Save the environment" has no practical solution whatsoever. This is why no cares about this lake, and want to see it dry up.
There are 2 things that are key: 1) The lake has enough water to survive; 2) Reducing the salt levels in the lake. The beach is littered with bones and rotting flesh, with phenomenal amounts of salt.
Here's one idea: Plant Saltbush along the shores of the lake. Saltbush is a plant that is native to Australia. It thrives on extremely salty land, absorbing and feeding on the salt. It is also edible and tastes similar to spinach. It is commonly used in Australia to restore land that has been devastated by extreme salinity. Bushland was cleared, raising the water table and forcing natural salts to the surface, causing widespread salinity.
A+
Great idea. Of course California will spend more money on the environmental impact study than actually doing something would cost. Then they will conclude 2 things:
First - the Australian plant isn’t native to California so they can’t use it
Second - they spent so much money on the environmental impact study that not only do they not have any money for any projects that would fix the problem but they are now going to raise taxes to cover the cost overrun of the study.
Result - Salton sea still dying and more businesses leave California to get away from the high tax rate
Upside - the study discovered a unique type of algae that has 9 different genders and is now listed as an endangered species
Result - more studies being conducted that there is not enough money for so they raise taxes again to cover the new costs and more businesses leave the state
Finally - illegal aliens flee California because taxes are so high that nobody has enough money to hire them anymore and they are now paying coyotes to smuggle them back into Mexico
Finally finally - Border patrol agents making more money smuggling people back into Mexico than they do from their actual job
First time hearing of salt bush but seems legit!!
Reminds me of that old story about bringing in the snakes to get rid of the rats.
The Salton Sea salinity level is 25% higher than the ocean, and rising. Amazingly, filling it with ocean water would reduce the salt content.
Swilly, I am not poking fun at you but you do know the Salton Sea is way more salty than the ocean right? Your Very first sentence indicates you don't but the rest of your rant show you do understand it's a very salty lake.
I grew up going there in the 60s. It was a thriving place then, Camping and fishing. But even back then you could see nothing lasts forever. And for people wondering, Corvina fish were very delicious back then. Thank goodness I have only the fond memories.
The Salton Sea was formed from an engineering disaster in the early 1900s. It was a dry desert basin before and will return to being a dry desert basin.
Ha "average temp 70 degree "no mention of 120 in the summer
The average is the difference between the lowest temp in the winter and the hottest in the summer. So 40 and 100 is an average of 70. You gotta love statistics lol. You can make them say anything you want. 90% of the people who enjoyed reading this comment liked it lol
@@prepperjonpnw6482 LOL, exactly what I was thinking!
70 degrees probably at winter time.
Palm Springs, Indio, Rancho Mirage, La Quinta. This entire valley was once a vast inland sea, that was not man made.
millions of years ago.
Yes, the current lake was indeed man-made. That doesn't mean it hasn't flooded before.
115 when I went in the summer. I have never felt so close to death. The moment we pulled up to the sea and got out of the car, that mix of sulfur and blistering heat- it felt like we were trapped in an oven. Unforgettable.
Should have gone for a swim. :P
I lived 30 minutes away in La Quinta and we could always smell the Salton Sea in the summer.
I lived in Brawley.
Em Dee stfu I live in Coachella and I cant smell it
I live in coachella and i cant smell it.
Its smells like the congo
I live in La Quinta too and yes some days are awful with the smell
I love how this was all about the environment and than you have some kid has to bring up racism. Wtf seriously this isn't about oppression get over it.
Dwalk22 boss gotta shove race in anywhere they can.
There's always gotta be at least one
They are bums that want free stuff. It's their fault they lived in a shitty place.
Tus nalgas are oppression
Didn't you know?? Racism is somehow included in every single subject imaginable!!
How this turned into a 'brown oppression' campaign is what loses its traction. To gain attention, you attempt to convey it as a form of racism, and ignore the fact it would cost literally billions to fix this disaster area. This whole race card game people play is beyond irritating. The cost of what it takes to 'fix' this situation that should have never happened, is the limiting factor. You live in a country where 85% of the public bridges are on the verge of collapse, but you selfishly think this is more important, for the very limited population that CHOOSES to live beside a disaster.
Ryan Tookey 85%???
85 % lol
Ryan Tookey did you just pull these numbers out of your ass?
The generalized number of 85% is not even close to the point the OP was trying to get across. /whoosh
@@shadowdemon7770 Yes he did
My uncle and I planned to stay for 2 hours.
*WE WERE THERE FOR LIKE 28 HOURS*
Great documentary until you get to the mouth breathers bringing up bogus claims of racism.
You lost my support when you pretend it is a racial issue. It is not about "brown people, people of color..." as the one kid said. It is about humans. Good luck getting support by being divisive.
Same
yes
Don't let that one kid ruin your opinion, the dust storms are still gunna happen with or without your support.
Ikr I lost all concern for Salton Sea when that racist piece of shit claimed he was oppressed while living here illegally and leeching off systems he never paid into and has no right to use...
Hard to believe any amount of water in the desert isn't considered precious. The lawmakers should recall what the Russians did to the Aral Sea
Wow. I just visited Salton sea and only knew a little about it's history. This is fascinating.
Let's see how fast something gets done once the issues start spreading out of the fields and into LA and Palm Springs... :-(
Carolyn's RV Life lets see what century u get off your fatass and do hard labor yourself for a day in your 2000 lifetimes rather than sit in front of a tv asking why everyone else doesnt do it so u can drive around and see stupid shit in a rv all day
Wow, way harsh!
@@ShawnJonesHellion wow .....just wow.
Omg I was not aware of this problem, and parable of our State this country is in. Shame on our government Shame on the researchers who took a profit. As God as my witness if we don't fix what we(humans) broke God's punishment will be a bigger than this current situation.
That lake is a mistake. It was never meant to be there in the first place. THAT needs to be taken into consideration when it comes to trying to save it. Those chose to move there, they can choose to leave. The wildlife there wasn't there 100 years ago because there wasn't a lake. It's not unreasonable to allow the land to return to it's original state.
Exactly. This is a DESERT! There's not exactly an excess of fresh water in the region as it is. With a huge and still growing population of several tens of millions living in a naturally arid region, any fresh water is hotly contested by the region's various population centers and the industrial and agricultural clusters accompanying them (doubly so because of the current drought period). And they're suggesting taking a substantial amount of that already scarce water, plus tons of other resources and several billion dollars to try and save a toxic toilet that shouldn't even be there in the first place??
We need to get this crazy notion out of our heads that there is anything sustainable about populations of several millions existing in what is essentially a desert.
Technically this was formed naturally in the desert by the Colorado River. We diverted it's flow so the sea no longer sustainable. This was a human caused problem.
No doubt this is a hopeless situation. Especially given prevailing anthropocentrism.
Just a small amount of simple research by anyone able to press a few keys on a keyboard these days will enlighten them that the Salton Sea has continually, naturally, cycled through periods of being filled and drying up due to the Colorado River changing its course in the flat region surrounding the Yuma, Arizona area (which happens to be the location where man made his "mistake", which AGAIN allowed the Colorado to run free into the Salton Sink.)
So, the lake is not exsctly a mistake. It would have continued its cycle of filling and drying for quite some time into the future. And, I suspect, will again do so after mankind successfully annilhates themselves through selfishness, greed and ignorance of how to responsibly steward our industrious ability to suck up and absorb resources from the planet, our life boat in space.
Additionally, the birds are more dependent upon it than these posts naively contend. During dry cycles, they had the option of the coastal wetlands from San Diego up to Santa Barbara. One guess as to whether or not this long strip of habitat is still available for their use today.
The bottom line is actually not water use, scarcity, seas, birds, fish or educating oneself through the internet or having solid plans for remediation of this issue. It is plain and simple human breeding out of comtrol within his environment. Like Agent Smith outlined to Morpheus in the original Matrix movie; humans breed out of control like a common virus and destroy their host. Basically man satisfies his owm selfish desires and lusts and nary stops to think about the consequences let alone a responsible plan for harmony. With each other or the environment he finds himself in.
Draining the lake would be viable under normal circumstances, except that it would release enormous amounts of toxic gas and dust into the atmosphere. The lake bed is heavily polluted with rotting fish, fertilizers, and pesticides, and the only way to suppress it is to cover it with water. We would end up with another Owens lake. Owens lake was drained in the 1920's to provide water for LA and to date has cost Californians $1.3 billion (to pour millions of gallons of water on it) and is the largest source of man-made toxic dust in the US. This lake may have been a mistake, but for the sake of our health, it better stay.
Byron Arachnicus besides the dust issue that is mentioned throughout this video and how it will effect all of southern California, there is a wildlife issue, migratory birds actually, I know you think they will just fly off somewhere else, but there isn't anywhere else in southern California or Mexico, we have drained the wetlands and turned them into things like Newport bay, we concreted the rivers and pretty much took all natural feeding areas and turned them into an asphalt jungle. I am by no means an environmentalist but the birds come just as the video said from European, Asian waters and obviously north America, the birds are a very big part of an eco system so if we have taken their prime fishing areas how will they survive with out this man made oops that just happens to have the potential to make imperial county (who is poor) and Riverside county a lot of money through tourism and increased activity in the area. This isn't an assumption either this is facts by looking at history from 59+ years ago.
SAVE SALTON SEA.
It seems to me that it should be relatively easy to save the Salton Sea. As it is far below sea level we could just build a siphon system to bring water from the ocean to it. It's salt water anyway, why bother to try and bring the fresh water from the Colorado to it?
when they blame the shrinking of the salton sea on race profiling lmao
... if the word ‘racism’ invested by the jews , intended to be used against ‘whites only’ , did not existed , everyone on the planet would be very happy in their communities . 👍🏻🇬🇧💪🏻❤️🍻🤯
....but hey , there are a lot of mugs and schmucks out there , sad really is it not ? 😑🤨🧐😕
It's always the white man's fault. Never mind that the brown people mentioned are here illegally.
And never mind that they willingly moved there long after, decades after, the problems were well-known.
More like when they are too stupid to understand whats being explained on the screen... lack of proper education maybe?
Jesus you people are dumb. Nowhere was the shrinking of the sea blamed on "race profiling", but somebody mentioning illegals is already good enough to start this circle-jerk about how awesomely superior "white people" are, how Jews are to blame for racism, and how these "brown people" are at fault for living there, completely ignoring the environmental catastrophe that's unfolding.
How about you guys use your awesomely superior white intellect to do something about *that* ? Once this thing dries out, these toxic dust storms won't care what color your skin has, they will make *everybody* sick all the same, you need to be a complete and utter idiot to *not* understand that.
How are the people in this comment section not understanding that whether or not it was man made its still there and it drying up will just continue to hurt people who dont have any resources to move away lest they become homeless?
Exactly.
Can we get some divers to give an account on underwater life at Salton Sea (Bombay Beach)?
What does it look like? What kind of fish and other water creatures is in the water?
Bombs and airplanes under there
Corvina fish thrived there back in the 60s. It was a nice place. Very sad to see how bad it is now.
I think only a diver with a death wish would be willing to dive in the Salton Sea.
@@georgesouthwick7000 ....and yet ppl eat the fish that they catch. Heard someone say that the tilapia is good. Don't remember if it was in this video or a different one but I heard it.
@@salgaltrixie8265 There are no fish left there except some pupfish. Nothing worth eating, nor is it safe to eat.
Doesn't seem this place is worth saving. Not to mention the billions of dollars it will cost to try and fix it. As for the birds they'll be fine they will find a new place migrate to long before the lake drys up like they always do.
Pointing out that the massive dust storms will reach much further than Socal might help, but probably not when you consider the people of this country don't care about the environment or their neighbors anymore. Part of what will be lost will be the agriculture and people who foster the agriculture in that area. So go ahead and enjoy your imported, expensive fruits and veggies or just stick to McDonald's as usual!
My family still ownes property there because my great grandparents thought it would be a good investment. We have been there a few times.
Is there anything they can do about the smell? If they could do that... it might help a lot. Some might move back.
Average temperature of 70 degrees? Uh, no.
torputube uh yes! You do know what average means i hope. Take the temp once an hour for an entire year. Add them all up, divide by 24 and divide that by 365. If you get to 70 degrees that is one hot bloody place!
torputube for comparison the average temperature for san diego is 63.65 degrees.
But the video was very old. Back then, temperatures were not that high often like nowadays
@@oscara.9265 Wrong. The graphs they use to trick you into thinking that have been carefully selected. Take a look:
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Sorry, but a drop in elevation of 230 feet over the distance from the Pacific Ocean to the Sultan Sea would not produce electrical energy. Remember, it isn't a straight line drop from one to the other, it goes up and down and up and down and left and right etc. The pumping stations required to move the water would require thousands more times the energy than could possibly be produced. Without going into the costs of the infrastructure, land purchases and right of ways, the maintenance, etc etc it would be a lose lose situation. Give your head a shake!
absolutely true... i can't believe its actually even mentioned
"Average temperature of 70 degrees"....maybe in the winter months. Obviously the narrator had never been there in the summer! God awful heat in that part of the state. Been there MANY times....
Great video, super well done! Judging by these comments, I think racism effects way more than some people realize. Agreed on the lack of education. Bravo!
This video has nothing to do with racism. Please take that nonsense elsewhere and leave this discussion to the adults.
Muh racism? Seriously? Lost me at that point.
good - fuckhead
@@OutSideDeMatrix you really are a classless pig.
WOW!
A 20 foot in diameter pipe going from the ocean to the Salton sea could theoretically be used to fill it, as well as create hydroelectric power. It could pay for itself in a couple of decades. It would also create a "shovel ready" project for some awesome temporary employment, and abate the serious problem of heavy metal contaminated dust storms that are inevitable once it dries up!
Plus it would help lower rising sea levels .
You would have to figure on filter
Out the micro plastics out though.
Im thinking they simply just don't want to do it.Not that they cant.
Pipe diameter is NOT the issue. Duh.
That would be a nice place to go someday
This is just a preview of 152 years in the future.
Grew up in the Valley and went to the Sea as a child many times. Lived there with family a while. So sad to lose this because greedy men don't care.
Its more a case of a greedy overpopulated city called L.A. that has an insatiable thirst for more water.
Don’t forget Pelosi. She’s a terrible person who is only interested in making money for herself, yet Californians still vote for her.
PROBLEM SOLVED!! Every local resident runs a hose from their houses into the sea. Everyone. Turn on the spigot and let the fresh water slowly refill the lake. This is a simple way to refill the lake without new expensive pipelines! It is a solution that utilizes existing infrastructure. Yes everyone's water bill will increase but they will help solve the problem. Hell the Mexicans living there are probably getting government money anyway so this is a win win situation.
I hear a lot of 'the time for action is now', without any instructions going forward. Writing congress isn't working obviously. As much as I appreciate these documentaries, without a proper channel for citizens to take action it's pointless isnt it?
It is happening in Yakima washington A old farming community with heavy metals in the soil from the past . When contractors grub the abandoned orchards they release heavy metals into the air .
Contractors get away with not TACKING down loose soils during the construction of subdivisions.
The EPA is supposed to check on this situation making sure the contractors use Hydroseeders to lay a mulch and tack on the loose surface to keep heavy metals from going airborne
But when u call to report No ONE from Ecology or the EPA ever shows up .
Cancer in the Yakima Valley is Ramped. Just read the obituaries once a month and do the math .
We need a new Governor and a Attorney General that will take time to enforce these laws ...
Yeah I live in western Washington over here somewhat near Seattle more in the Kent in Covington Washington so more on the outskirts suburbs kind of country area about 30 minutes away from Seattle but I also love how green it is on this side of the state how much it rains here but I have family that's over there in the Yakima area and it is very sad how it is over there I wish they could do something similar to what they're talking about there with the salt and sea or they could bring in water and also do what you're talking about where they make sure these contractors don't release that stuff into the air the crazy thing is at one time Yakima I heard from my grandparents that was actually the Palm springs of Washington made me kind of wonder if at one time there was much more water there and it was a much different place 70-80 years ago I'm sure if there was more bodies of water even being a desert it would attract more people but yes it's sad even this side of the state is going to s*** because the governor doesn't give a crap and his defunding the police and letting crime one run wild and take over the cities here police won't even show up to a car accident anymore hell I was just in a hit and run a few weeks ago some guy hit my car my baby that I've been building over the past half a decade police wouldn't even show up they said oh if you're not seriously injured we don't come to car accidents anymore we're not funded for that it's ridiculous our governor is s*** I wish I had the trillions of dollars to not only fix the salt and sea but fix areas like yeah come on other places that seriously needed around the world at the drop of a dime and be able to afford to do so and the power to do so
Different story completely. This is an accident that people tried to turn into money. And it hasn't worked.
Dear Supervisor John Benoit,
Thank you for standing with us to protect the Salton Sea. The Salton Sea needs our help to defending what is an ideal treasure or monument to our state. It is reassuring and admirable that the supervisor is helping and defending the communities air quality as well. This could potentially be a strong collaboration that can change what our community suffers around. From respiratory damage to asthma can drop immensely. Let's stand together for a strong AQMP.
, Elijah Cervantes
Elijah Cervantes John Benoit, the Libertarian?
No. Let it turn back into desert and it will heal itself. Like it has down throughout the millions of years. This area is not intended to have a lake. It's nature's overflow pond.
stop dumbing the field runoff in it that's why it is fucked up
The lake was made by man. Dust to dust.
Precisely. Sick of goddamn Californians bitching about how they should get even more water from the river while refusing to build any desalination plants on their coastline.
Look up ancient Lake Cahuilla. The Salton Sea is just the latest version of this huge lake. The Salton Sea is tiny compared to Lake Cahuilla.
why waste fresh water for this accidental lake? - let it dry up. this is pointless
UncleT0ny thats still wastnig dumbass
UncleT0ny
, exactly. California is already struggling to supply fresh water to its population, and will be struggling even more in the coming decades. Where is all the fresh water going to come from, to support a lake that shouldn't even be there?
Save an ecological mistake? I don't think so.
This is a great video. I hope they save the sea
There is nothing worth saving.
My beautiful people and valley, how come no one cares!😥
how can I help.
I was there today. It was more like The Putrid Pond. I could smell it with my windows and vents closed.
Birds from Asia don’t migrate to California. Birds migrate roughly North-South and vica versa, not East-West.
Dust storms, health/ breath problems... this scenario reminds me of the movie Interstellar !
It probably reminds you of some video game also, right? lol
Like your picture, you look like 160 years old.
If you had a chance to watch Interstellar you know what I mean.
I live 30 minutes away from Saltonsea..its a man made PROBLEM 🤔
This is just the start of fighting over water
You cannot compare this to dry ups of natural lakes as this was artificial from the beginning. It was an engineer IMG accident that created it, and it's returning to nature.
Nearly all the fish are dead......most of the birds have found other routes.....the only thing left is for the Mistake Lake is to completely dry up. Only the highly polluted New River goes in there. It's gone - goodbye
The Salton Sea was created by an accident. This is simply nature resetting itself in that area.
It's possible to slowdown the desertification of Salton Sea through permaculture methods and simple Earthworks. Geoff Lawton was able to create a farm in a desert in Jordan by using permaculture. There are plants that are capable of absorbing salt, potassium and calcium. This will reduce the salinity and help other plants survive.
It has always been a desert. Occasionally, it fills with flood water. Then it dries out again. As nature intended.
Never thought I'd see an area that looked worse than East Cleveland or inner city Detroit, but yup, I was wrong.
it looks like someone drew a shaft on your thumbnail
😂 it does!
pipline from the gulf
California is already having severe financial problems, as is our federal government. I just doubt there will be the political will to support the funding of a pipeline to the Gulf of Mexico, or to the Pacific, which would cost approximately $40 billion.
ragusajr100 the Salton Sea too big of an ecological hazard to simply ignore. If we just let it increase in salinity and evaporate off, at some point it will create conditions for massive alkaline dust storms that could potentially pose a public health risk to millions of people throughout the valley.
Much like the lack of sufficient disposal strategies for nuclear fuel rods, the damage control for this man-made beast should be treated with a great deal of urgency and public support.
I’m assuming you’re talking about the Gulf of California?
To save the Salton sea they need to cut it in 1/2. Build a dam separating the southern 1/2 from the northern 1/2. Then they can stabilize the sea level on the southern end. Fresh water will flow into the southern end and any extra now very salty water could be released into the northern end to evaporate.
There is nothing worth saving. It's just a natural overflow pond. Stagnant and nasty at times. That's why no one should live there.
people are dying...?? and they still dont just move away??
Save the mudpots,to hell with the sea. Let it dry up. It wasn't there when we arrived and it doesn't need to be there now.
The agricultural runoff existed before it was washed into this basin. It is easy to say that draining the lake is bad. But unless the lake is drained it can never be returned to its natural state. Unless we recognize that agricultural runoff is caused by poor practices that are not regulated we won't even stop adding to this problem over much of the country. Continuing to deviate water that is now in demand in multiple other places must lead to catastrophic conflict over time. Listening to the idea of bringing MORE salt from the ocean into this basin isn't going to overcome the mistakes we have already made. It just creates a bigger mistake for the future to address.
Correct. It's a little mind-blowing that this doc came from a college, even if it was made by students. Someone should also tell the young idealists about something called "eminent domain". Not as easy as it once was to just jam pipe through neighborhoods and tribal land.
Nature says No
Need to improve solar heating water to move, process, and power from the ocean. Power used to pump water from the lake and rivers can be looked at in its cost vs increasing underground farms that have the ability to recapture water.
Dude this guy needs 100x its subs now!
How did this video go from science to race?! SMH!
They're hoping white guilt will get money thrown at this long-dead failed "resort".
What is health? Is it go electric or keep the industrial plants going and pumping out pollution. Plus if the salt on sea was supposed to be habitable it would have and still be.
So we accidentally made it. What was there before? Dust, so before we fucked up and made it was there no dust there before?
Me watching this all the way from Tennessee my home state
What a shame if it dries up and the dust storms being...and God knows what happens.
I'm surprised no one blamed global warming. We all know they should!
Interesting how the HAM radio operator guy walks around during his interview portion carrying a coffee cup - outside (and driving) in the toxic dust. I see a coffee addiction....unless there's a lil' alcohol in there.
They drained Owen's lake or whatever it's called right? Well why didn't they grow grass or other crops instead of leaving just a big area of dirt? I'm just asking, I haven't researched anything yet.
Mulholland and the LA water sent bulldozers into the Owen's valley and bulldozed any vegetation. They didnt want people to see what was once there.
Maybe the water could be filtered and the fertilizers removed and recycled
Im fascinated with this sea for some reason and I live in the east.
Let this disaster die, we will all be better off when we get passed the end of this mess. Fish were seeded, and the birds will figure out a way just as they always have. The only issue that will take some work is keeping the dust down, and we know how to do that and it's a lot less than 90 billion to accomplish.
And just an fyi, Owen's lake was known to put dust off even when it existed, which by the way was only 13 inches deep.
Move move move move, the perfectly viable solution is to let it die, it shouldn't have been there to begin with.
Everyone say, Thank you Hoover Dam!
Tear that atrocity out, let the waters flow naturally again and there won’t be all of this Saulton Sea drying up fear.
ajoliver74 do you have any idea how far the Hoover dam is from the salton sea?
@@805NAVE I read a little on it. The Colorado River broke and filled the Salton Sea. That area is full of sea shells. So I could imagine that a man made obstruction would cause this. But it's just a thought.
It was created by idiotic california engineering. Just like everything else in that state... You can't fix stupid.
Sounds like an Aral Sea repeat.
Who cares... it’s an artificial lake. Let the monster dry up.
If you pipe in ocean water you will have to desalinate, but that could be a useful project also,I recently saw where Israel is making strides in this area.
Isnt The Salton Sea Connected To Other Water Sources Up North? How come Water Leaves The State But Doesnt Enter Through The same Pipe That It Came In?
I've lived in S. CA for 65 years and have never been there. No reason to go.
What needs to be done to the Salton Sea is a partition dam with a spill way. One side would become a salt lake, growing fresher over time, fed by ag runoff as always. The other side would become a Salt sump, perhaps the salt could be put to use by industry
Premature developments in the mountains around the sea would create streams and rivers that add clean water to the sea and make 4 crops a year.
useful but an 11minute upload doesn't qualify for 'document' status; maybe 'Concerns of the Salton Sea' or 'Problems of the Salton Sea' etc.
so what now in 2021????? someone make a new documentary on this....
This has been going on for a long time.
Yes, all us scientists look like GQ models.
@6:32
Divert part of the Calorado River again and this Lake will live again......Do it nowwww!!!!!!!!!
It's 6 years later and the clock has stopped, of course. Time's up. But to address the video anyway: the young man talking about solutions seems to think it's easy to build an aqueduct across mostly private and tribal land. Does he think all that land he's showing on the map is empty and doesn't belong to anyone? Of course he makes it sound high-tech: "in-line hydro systems". I'm not sure what hydroelectric power generators have to do with any of this; "creating power" is neither here nor there. Power is not the issue; eminent domain lawsuits are. I feel bad for the birds, too. But the Sea was an accident that was exacerbated by water that it shouldn't have received in the first place that also happened to be polluted by agricultural runoff. Just be glad millions weren't dependent on an inland sea for their livelihood, as in Uzbekistan.
Let's play a game. California needs water for people and for agriculture. Diverting water away from agriculture means people don't have food. Diverting water away from people means they don't have water to drink. And if you have a business that needs water? Too bad. If we let nature have the water the fish and birds are happy but people die. If we let people use the water people are happy and have good lives but lakes dry up and some fish die and birds and other animals move somewhere else. What's the alternative? Reduce the number of people in California so that they need less water, food, and industry that depends on water. What is the actual solution? Have open borders and allow millions of people to come into California thus requiring even more food and water, and instead of solving the problem, bitch and complain and blame the government for not fixing the problem until they raise taxes to pay for this problem, which of course they won't, instead they will divert this tax money to pay for even more people to pour in across the border. California is a beautiful place. I've been there many times. I wouldn't live there for anything. It's committing slow motion suicide. It's sad to watch.
Never been out west really, but as like a 5 month old baby, so never really experienced it or an airplane
I've been throwing around random ideas in YT comments for fixing the Salton Sea. Mind you, I am an IT guy who lives in the Bronx, NY, so I have no skin in this game, just a lot of time to read, watch, and think. One of my ideas is already being worked on, that of filling the Sea from the Sea of Cortex, but using a canal. (I was partial to a tunnel using a TBM, but the geology brings the San Andreas Fault right up and *into* the Salton Sea. Thus a tunnel will not last as long.) Whether using a TBM or canal, the soil has to go somewhere so maybe a berm to further isolate the shores from agricultural run off. Either way, something has to be done. Imagine an earthquake that causes enough of a fault shift to let the water drain faster. Then in five years' time there is no water left and the 30MPH sustained easterly winds blow the poisoned dust all the way to Phoenix. California has been mismanaged for decades and the depth of corruption in places like San Bernardino and Riverside Counties don't help matters much. Bloated, $150,000 civil servant pensions have to be paid out from somewhere. But it's only a matter of time before California's problems become its neighbor's problems. AZ is happy to accept the influx of business capital and brain drain from CA, but eventually it is going to get more than it expected. What do I know? I'm just an IT guy sitting 2,800 miles away. *(5/2/2019 - I'm dating this for when you fvckers start to choke.)*
If they could even just IMPROVE the water.. Not necessarily make it pristine. Just see if a PORTION can be separated) maybe make another lake) clean it up and make it where people could swim and fish. The rest ..maybe put some carp in there and do something about the smell. Surely today's techno can find a solution. Then maybe someone can find the guts to put in a small apartment and maybe a hotel and restaurant. Perhaps a museum and a real nice park to take kids to. Start small and see what happens. Clean up the worst eyesores( leave the artwork and some leftovers from the glory days). It might catch on.
Just put gigantic air pumps (powered by solar)to oxygenate the water that will stop the bad smell and heal the water..
when they yell to washington you know its really gone south.
I've been there. When you look at it from a distance, you see a white shoreline. As you get closer you realize it's all the remains of dead fish. And this isnt just on the surface, this piles up in layers. I go motorcycle riding in ocotillo wells which is not very far from there. Ive had multiple times where I almost got stuck in the salty, sticky mud that it creates. The water shouldnt have been there in the first place, as it's a desert. But there is too much of it to just let it dry and the birds now rely on it. So they must do something about it to take care of it.
Let the toxic dust storms hit Palm Springs..............they will get use to it 👍
avoid the discharge of pollutants, even if it is avoiding the surrounding agricultural activity. What we should ask is the most important. a few farmers or a whole state population. reflect and we will rescue the little that is left of this reservoir. That goes viral on social networks. Although they may not believe certain things can change and it is in our hands.
Very informative
Have none of you understood the process of desalinization?
9:42 Proof of Flat Earth
rayism 24b wrong
How the hell did it turn into salt water?