Leslye Headland explains some of her "The Acolyte" creative choices | New this week in Star Wars
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The witch chant is some Terrence Howard level math we can't understand.
😂😂😂 1 x 1 = many
@ojizarco-nu5fj 🤔
Was good op 😂
@@roadhouse24762 + 2 = 22, that’s just logic. /s
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I'm not creative enough to write my own original ideas, so I went to Star Wars and put my piss poor ideas into a franchise everyone loves because that's the only way my 3rd grade level writing gets seen.
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Don't ask about the name of the Headless Cantina? Um... I see how it is Naboo. I SEE How it is....
ATTENTION! IT CONTAINS CRINGE
Lucas's Star Wars had directly borrowed themes and techniques from Kurosawa's Samurai films, even entire shots in sequence from Hidden Fortress. We all loved that Samurai flavor and it was done with care. Now Disney will bring the master's name out every time they need a character reference for PR . Ryan Johnson had a rain scene in TLJ and they said "it's like Rashomon!" Current show has a potentially unreliable POV narrative and what's on every Ad media headline...''it's like Rashomon!''. We've seen ''Rashomon sequences'' in dozens of non SW projects that never begged the comparison. It's got twins too I guess it's also inspired by Ivan Reitman? It strains credulity to make these connections. It's just... lipstick on a pig. Even if it's true midway through shooting a episode director mentioned she should watch Ran sometime..
It's exactly lipstick on a pig, same as quoting Kill Bill or Fight Club. But you are right, quoting Rashomon is particularly jarring, and frankly offensive at this stage.
I get what they’re trying to go for with the Chant: we’ve only ever seen Jedi and Sith acting as individuals or in master/student pairs. These “witches” use the force as a group. (With feminist overtones of the “patriarchy” views the Force as a force, power - while the matriarchal witches view it as the Thread that connects us.
They’re borrowing (or blatantly ripping off) the Wheel of Time where the men are individually more powerful than nearly any female, but the women can link together to become geometrically more powerful.
The problem is that they’re doing it _badly._ The Jedi have been around for over TEN THOUSAND years at this point and some of the first Jedi _were_ women and have always held power on the Jedi council. Just because we haven’t seen Jedi cooperating together to use the force on screen (we have in the comics and novels) doesn’t mean they don’t. We just haven’t seen it.
And the dichotomy in the force between light and dark isn’t what you do with the force, but _why._. Are you using the force selflessly or selfishly? Are you using the force to help others or to get what you want.
The problem here is that feminism, as the Leslie Headlands of the world understand it, believe power is a zero sum game, any power you have is at _my_ expense; any power men have is power women don’t (and since men only use their power to oppress people, they shouldn’t have any anyways). So she’s making a show about “power and who has the right to use it” and Star Wars has ALWAYS been about “how are you using the power you have: in the service of others or in service of your own interests?” Because we all have different amounts and kinds of power. Some of us have the force and some of us have the Millenium freakin’ Falcon and some of us have stone tipped spears.
I'm glad to see someone put perfectly, what I have been thinking ever since I heard the witch mum say "this is about power and who is allowed to use it". Its something that always bothered me, because surprise surprise, much of Palpatine the main antagonists character, is about being given power that he SHOULD not have. But the key that Leslie and many like her miss, is the reason WHY. Writers like Leslie are always asking the what's. They always present us with surface level and basic information, but never take the time to think WHY that thing is the way it is. It doesn't matter WHY the Jedi, the Sith or anyone in between uses the Force, what matters is simply that you have it. And that tells me that Leslie is not an individual wishing to solve the problem, because that requires her to not only acknowledge something as an issue, but to understand why it is one in the first place. She simply wishes to replace George's original conception of the Force, without considering the reasons he wrote it that way
Also the whole referring to the Force as the Thread is copied from Wheel of Time too. Remember the Aes Sedai describe using their powers as weaving.
The best we could do at this point is just completely ignore the acolyte. If everyone ignored it after episode three that would be worse than everyone keep talking even negatively about it.
I hope that happens as the season goes on… but it seems like this show and all the marketing and interviews around it are designed to farm outrage and keep people talking. They’d rather use division to drive attention than quality products. I think that’s how low lucasfilm has stooped.
@@darth_bagel yes! You nailed it!
Someone should respectfully ask her what the heck she was thinking.
She thinking thoughts ☻️🤣
She cannot create her own original IP, so she has to go to an existing franchise and inject her ideas because no one will watch her content.
@@Infamous1892 But she HAD a show. I never watched it, but I heard it was a hit. Go ruin that!
Anyone even hinting at “grey” has no idea about the Force, balance or Star Wars. This cast and especially Headland are completely clueless about SW canon. If the mother actress is saying such nonsense you know who even put those ideas there.
Pushing for this “grey Jedi” to become canon is the worst thing you can do
People already don’t like the prequels but they also tend to scoff at the moralism of the Jedi and the emotional conditioning they undergo
If they manage to maintain a force user that wields abilities both sides of the force, kills in anger and holds down a marriage all without consequences that will confirm that said conditioning was never necessary and will therefore confirm the Jedi as being bad guys hung up on a dogma like they’re labeled for(yeah, I know: run on sentence)
Same.
Witches in Star Wars whether they are the Acolyte's witches or the Dathomir's witches, no force user is in the middle.
I’m not saying everything about the Night sisters was perfectly planned, though. There's a lot about them that doesn’t make sense, but assuming they are *not* using something separate from the Force, it's obvious they're darkside.
They worship the Fanged God who's with them when they take life and eat (seems like the Son), and the Winged Goddess who embodies growth, fertility and life giving (like the Daughter), and they accept both. From that, it makes sense they have necromancy, as they might see the Fanged god (Son) as a source of power. Plus, they have dealings with the Sith (maybe for their protection), they exclude men in every aspect of society (there is no evolutionary advantage to this), and don’t seem to discuss conservation (not taking the Son's values to far), which could be the dark side's influence.
But again, it's likely not every aspect was intentional. There is no evolutionary advantage to the gender segregation, it's likely just a subversion. Or the green mist highlighting their control of an object. Does the mist effect come from within Nightsisters? And that's not to say I don't like Merrin.
They don't get it, and never will. Smh... good vs evil is what it's about. I wish Headland was never brought to LF...
I'm assuming you didn't like Andor or Rogue One? Or huge parts of the EU/Legends?
I'd actually argue that Andor is more "grey" than this show will turn out to be.
@@BugRib This is about everyone's interpretation but to me you have two layers of star wars. Force and non-force based. Where regarding force it is black/white and fight against good and evil. And the non-force is about the lives of different people in this world. Oppression, rebellion, war, boubty hunting etc.
Andor is very grey because it was about little people having to use the weapons of their enemies and how they suffer under a regime. Acolyte should be more black and white and I think it will be.
@@BugRibyou are soooo gay
And even then, even when you get into Andor that brings light to the morally ambiguous matters ultimately the dilemma usually steers back to good and evil, the moral high ground and what not
@@KRobinson-ko1ne Yeah. I feel thats the whole arc of Luthen and Mon Mothma. To what ends are you going to go to fight evil.
Did she say season 1? As in they are planning to make more of this? Oof
Yes they have planned 3 seasons and a potential Kotor Show with Kreia (still waiting to be greenlit), according to Leslye in a written interview.
@@MysticTrolloh fuck no
I don't recall anyone complaining about Ra's subtitles in Stargate...
I watch everything with subtitles so that argument is silly to me 🤣🤣🤣
no one complained during Shogun either
@@pineapplepapercraftswhy do you do this to yourself tho?
So the backstory was set in stone before the writers started to reshape it around Rashomon, and they set that stone background on fire to make it a mystery...... That's where the inspiration for setting a stone building on fire came from.
it's obvious there is no planning, that's why it's so expensive
@@khal7702 oh yeah absolutely. Thays why there haven't been any major plot hooks (aside from the "who started the fire" bs question mark) layered into each episode and everything is vague and when asked the answer is "you'll have to decide for yourself" which just screams 'we weren't able to wrote something interesting enough so we left it open to interpretation and were gonna let the audience figure it out for us'
all references to Rashomon is a bullshitscreen to sound clever - its like saying because someone died in your movie - it's because you have a great love for Shakespeare
No, its not. Rashomon has a very specific and uncommom game of perspectives. Death is a common theme in all stories.
@@pabloj.garcia2559The unreliable narrator is an extremely common theme in stories as well. Rashomon is just a legendary example of it.
@@CedarHunt Rashomon is not only unreliable narrator, its different narrators telling the same events. Is is less common than you say. If not, could you tell me stories with that theme released in the last 5 years?
@@pabloj.garcia2559Different narrators telling their perspective is a form of the unreliable narrator. Rashomon is a fantastic example of the style. This show doesn't even follow the Rashomon formula.
No it's not. The premise of the movie is the point. It's an unreliable narrative told from multiple perspectives. Rashomon is one of the biggest examples of this idea. And a lot of people know what it is
All I care to hear from Leslie is, "I'm so sorry" and "I quit the entertainment industry forever"
Mae was already falling by the time Sol arrived. Osha was the only one to save. And as Sol said in the previous episode he would've saved both if he could.
"I'm just gonna shoot my shot"
Apparently she got the aim of a stormtrooper
Gross
“It’s about power” turns the Force into a metaphor for wealth redistribution. The Jedi are “hoarding” the Force by being strong individuals instead of sharing it with everyone and working collectively.
Which is so fucking dumb
The Jedi are the not-so-secret allegory for real-world social and political institutions that Progressive activists like Headland believe need to be torn down and rooted out entirely, because they were flawed and corrupt from their inception and thus irredeemable.
Marxism.
It's just one line from one particular character who (very explicitly) has her own particular perspective.
It's not rewriting the lore or whatever. I think people are hugely overreacting to the smallest things.
At least, that's how it seems to me. 🤷🏻♂️
@@BugRib The "thread" and the entire 3rd episode rewrites lore you loon
1:30 - my problem with this backstory-Episode
We barely learned anything new. And the new stuff was mostly disappointing
The whole "Yord hoard", "Sol Patrol" thing feels like pre-planned Disney astroturf marketing campaign that is extremely inauthentic.
This show isn't popular or well received by fans. It feels completely fraudulent that there would be cult fan groups around characters who have barely had any screen time in an unpopular show.
Yes please do a house of the dragon review 👍
Have you seen Star Wars Theory's updated version of Palpatine and Anakin about Plagueis. Check it out he added in the witches nicely😂
Yes to branching out to do reviews of other shows.
Being the “shill” commenter from your last lightning response, I can still confidently concede the witches chant was the dumbest crap I’ve seen in a while
Someone really needs to tell Leslie those glasses ain't doing her any favors
Going for the grandma look
@@NZealand My grandma looked way, way cooler, rest her soul.
She used the Force to make herself a futanari
So I changed the dub to turkish to maybe make it sound better and they still played the chant in english😂
Hahaha!! Really? So incredibly dumb
acolyte doesn't need spoiler warning, no one wants to watch it
It was spoiled when they made it.
I think House of the Dragon content would be cool as a supplement. Especially i have a hard tim caring about the acolyte.
I don't think it's as bad as say Kenobi. It at least looks better. I appreciate the practical effects even when they look corny over CGI. But i still really really dont care about and haven't been given a reason to by the story.
Referencing Rashomon is very cliche and it’s something film people do to try and sound smart.
All the apologists trying to defend what Headland is doing... then she comes out and demonstrates just how idiotic she is.
That's Hollywood!🤦🏽♀️
I just want to know why that mantra had to be recited in English. I think they should have made up a language.
100%
Its all been shit since Disney. I don't know why you bother. This is by far the worst.
The show sucks
I'd love to hear your take on House of the Dragon
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...this isn't about Good or Bad CONTENT, it's about "Yord Hoarding" IPs & who has the "Unlimited Power" to STREAM it...
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《The Wynd in the WILLOW: Cancelled & Removed》
#embarrassing
The witches are not of the light or dark side, they belong fully to the cringe side of the force.
My opinion is that this show is trash.
My head hurts from the explanations.
1) I love Night Sisters. So I did a rip off.
2) I love my rip off. That's why I killed them.
3) Roshomon = 1 past crime, recounted by 4 unreliable narrators, all of whom contradict each other. Acolyte = several narrators who don't contradict each other, chasing a girl who wants to commit several more future murders. How is this Rosho...
Its more Pokemon.
I gave it 2 episodes.. ep 3 is like Last Jedi. And I despise it. So Leslie, Kathy and the rest can suk my ⚽️⚾️
It's House of the Dragon from here on for me.
Should def cover some House of the Dragon, or at least try it once. Sure there's no "good guys" per se, but it's still a good watch. And you can always just root for the commoners! Stick it to the ruling class!
Leslye Headland with all do respect... is just like my ex wife! ... Just against everything Star Wars! Smh 🙄
Who would have known that Star Wars under Disney would have taken this route?
I enjoy you're PLUS (wife) explainer as well
Night sisters are much better represented in Jedi: Fallen Order and Jedi: Survivor than whatever this is..
One, two, many, lots. That’s how Terry Pratchett’s Discworld trolls count.
I think Filoni is behind pushing a Witch story with Leslye. But of course he don't want her to mess with his witches
Iam to biased against this person who was the personal assistant of Weinstein.
Listening to these two talk about a terrible show rationally is hilarious
I don't care what her reasons are. They're in bad faith.
You guys should talk about HoTD
If people knew of the force was used by witches than it would not be viewed as a positive without Jedi about.
She doesn't understand that.
@@Infamous1892 Too true. I keep wondering how witches were never mentioned in the original trilogy. "May the force be with you" would not be said if people knew of groups of witches and were openly afraid of them.
You know, we’re blaming Leslye, but maybe really we she be blaming Kathleen Kennedy. She’s the one who hired a very woke lesbian and green lit this project with an almost entirely gay cast and crew. Leslye is who she is, a lesbian who makes lesbian content. Kathleen is the one who chose to hire her and put Star Wars in this direction
I blame Kennedy for everything.
If Star Wars was a Marvel, pre End Game success, she'd be the greatest thing ever.
The series is awful
There is a serious rumor stating that Dave Filoni "Nerfed" a lot of Leslye Headlands script. So he got take the blame for this was well.
It’s like Columbo, we know who did it but we don’t know why.
Will We care, by the last episode of the show, though?
@@anthonyyoutubefan7567 Maybe, maybe not 🤷🏻♀️
I heard it was based on Harvey Weinstein’s warm up routine
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I am so glad I didn’t watch this on my lunch break I would have chocked and died on my lunch from laughing so hard at your power of one reenactment.
"Many" means that they can all combine their forces to weave a multi-threaded tapestry.
I guess that's what gives them the power to take possession over other (force sensitive?) people's mind.
Perhaps when Mae died she migrated her personality into Osha, making her act like a split personality.
Now they may become collectively vulnerable when they join forces, so to harm one of them is to harm them all.
The possession 'thing' was developed in GOT where John Snow could shift his consciousness into his dire-wolf.Ghost. Possession is widely associated with witchcraft.
PS. I still think that "Something (gray) stinks in Denmark."
Hey, Thor. What do you think of the theory going around that the mistery would up being a "Fightclub Revelation? I'm not watching the show, but for what I can tell from different reviews, nobody has seen the twins together since the fire.
It's not possible. To me it sounds like people trying to make the story better. But the 2 have definitely been on screen together in a squence.
Because they are twins there has to be some creative editing, that might slightly give a wrong impression. But in the endings sequence of episode 3, other people acknowledge them both in the same scene and one shoots at the other.
If they did that fake out it wouldn't at all make sense
Thor's take on the Osha/Mae save attempt by Sol is...weird. Sol pretty clearly hopes to save them both but can't. He saves Osha because that's who he could save. The kind of decision making Thor describes doesn't make sense, especially coming from someone so adamant that the Jedi really are the good guys. So which is it Thor? Do they try to save anyone they can or are they the type of people who only save the useful people who wouldn't complicate things? Very odd.
as cringey as the witches are, I’m actually glad they didn’t use the Nightsisters… we just saw them in _Ahsoka,_ and I think that’s as much as I’d like to see of them 🤷🏻♂️
but ideally… why couldn’t the twins just have been Force-sensitive sisters born to a regular family, and the Jedi come to take them away and train them, but the parents resist, and some tragedy occurs? or maybe the Jedi only take one sister, and the tragedy is simply splitting them up? and one grows up to be a Jedi, and the other ends up an “acolyte”?
It's terrible. She's now whining this "important piece of art is being dismantled". Why is it important? It's garage.
I actually don't mind what the head witch actress said because she phrased it that the CHARACTER believes that they exist in a grey area and that the force is not just about good and evil. That is fine, the character is just mistaken, that is how many dark side users have been depicted in Star Wars EU.
I absolutely would love you guys to do a review of house of dragon. It might actually resolve your TH-cam algorithm/funding issue.
That said in house of dragons when the King died and he gave that prophecy to his current wife, that soiled the entire story.
Now hear me out
Before we all knew who the rightful hair to the throne was. And we knew who the usurper was going to be.
We knew motivations and we understood the means. As fans we could understand and empathize with the Queen and the desire to save her children from what she believed to be their impending doom.
When they threw that scene into the story and the Queen said, “I understand”, that gave her cover to ignite the Civil War instead of letting her just be the villain we could understand and empathize with.
Meaning? Is there some deep metaphor buried in it? I have my reservations.
Honestly someone interview her and ask how is it possible to get an almost a wide open ERA of SW to create and couldn’t come up with something creative.
The writing is atrocious. Characters are poorly developed. She relies on contrivances when she writes herself into coners. Since she doesn't stick to her own story "rules" why should she have regard for canon and lore.
Why are you two constantly talk INTO each other instead of letting one speak? xD
So we will see the same scene from a different point view. How clever. I predict that the bad one is and always has been Bart!!! I mean Osha!!!
Oh..don’t look so shocked
I bet filoni didn't want her touching night sisters and potentially interfering with what he's doing
there was jango fett 1 and boba fett 2 and the clones were many! I think I understand now!
Not only was the chanting cringe, but it also it lacked rhythm. 🤢
Lol a little Diddy
The mystery is who trained her
The power of woke.
The power of cringe.
The power of failure!
"I am you, and you are me. Carry that with you, wherever you go." - Big Boss
I'd love some HOTD ramblings 😊
I cant wait to see the post mortem break downs on this show.
nothing creative about that bad show.
Probably a satanic ritual of sorts
My hot take though I haven't watched it at all. There is only one kid. Fight Club type thing. The other one is just in their mind.
If she could be in two places at once, your theory might be plausible.
@AJ-gt6ts lol. Not sure. Have seen any of it yet.
The question to her is "Are you see star wars?"
I said the same thing about the chant. If it was subtitles that chant instantly gets 50% less silly. Change that stupid dance that fits better in CATS than Star Wars and there goes the other 50%. I think the THRED is teh many. One thread breaks, two are stronger but still break. Many threads make an unbreakable rope. HELL, make it based on string theory so you can make it something solid people can actually get behind.
What I'm hearing is that Dave Filoni "Nerfed" a lot of the script that Leslye Headland created. If that is the case then he need to take a lot of the blame for this.
lol she thinks there’s gonna be a season 2
Awesome video, as always
I don't know how long it's gonna take for these people to realize we don't want there star wars we want the already established eu come on disney
Playing swtor instead and the writing is so much better and even that gets corny at times. Still love it because when I play a sith, I feel like a fucking sith. When I play as a Jedi, I feel like a Jedi.
Even the sith emperor with his "the force is both dark and light" thing shows that doing so is a perversion of the force if you do it way too much.
Yay more Acolyte talk?
Cool, never noticed that Leslye Headland has a Donnie Darko tattoo on her left arm
Gayest comment award
Piss off
With Headland, silence is (or would be) golden.
I'm hearing that Dave Filoni "Nerfed" a lot of the script, if that is the case then Dave need to step up and take some the responsibilities for this as well.
HUH?
See, here's the thing: When you have to explain your creative choices, midway in a series...
I'll say this: If, by episode 7, We don't have clarity with regard to WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED...this miniseries will forever live in infamy and obscurity. What could the 8th episode do, that could fix all that came before it?
BTW: What about this material correlates with The Clones Wars and the story of The Nightsisters? Again, unlike popular theories, Lucasfilm Ltd. promos, and interviews circulating of late, Mr. Dave Filoni DID NOT have much of a role in the creation and execution of The Acloyte. He was nowhere to be seen, when it was greenlit (in 2018/19), when it was being filmed (via leaked set photos), and when the panels and interviews occurred at SW Celebration 2023. I think, if anything, he was "brought in" during the reshoots, and maybe he tried to refocus what was happening in Ms. Headland's "version" of George Lucas' universe, after seeing how far it had gone unfettered. Ironically, Headland (seemingly) didn't even think to consult, along w/ Dave, George Lucas and Katie Lucas (his Daughter), who was the main writer for the storyline of The NIghtsisters Of Dathomir, inc. the ultimate fate of Asajj Ventress, which got depicted in the novel, Dark Disciple.
P.S. Why am I NOT SURPRISED, that the people involved with this show are speaking of avoiding a binary kind of thinking and being?
hey Thor: I know this is not the Q&A but I saw a video about The Acolyte and thought it'd interest you. A Back Drop episode from Second Wind.
there's a lot of different shades of gray, some quite dark, others very light.
Souls have used the force to grab both of them.
Star Witches
Was her other show Russian Doll any good?
It was cool. It's groundhog day but at a party for yuppy lesbians in NYC. Write what you know
It´s fun that you´re trying to make sense of a religious ceremony.
Every religious ritual has some form of logic behind it. This one does not.
Most religious ceremonies are more inspired and dignified than this...
Don't put modern relevant political problems in Star Wars... The first three movies never did that! HAHAH
The first three movies were good.
They are individuals, so they are ONE.
But they're also twins, so they are TWO.
And in the Force, everyone is connected, so they are MANY.
How hard was that?
😂😂😂😂😂😂 ok
Hey, don't do their homework for them.
I wouldn't say that Star Wars was ever about good versus evil. It seems to me it was more about "Is it a good idea to perceive the universe as a struggle of The Good against The Evil?" In the original trilogy Luke solves this dilemma by deciding that no one is truly evil, not even Darth Vader, somewhat against the persuasions of his masters we should note. That is "original" Luke's answer, presumably lined with the reasoning that it is the deed that could be evil, but not the person - the person is inherently good, while the evil deeds stem from confusion, misguidedness, entrapment and a lack of skills and tools to properly deal with ones challenges. A rejection of the "good vs. evil" worldview is possible on different grounds as well, like those explored in "Andor" ("Noble outcomes are sometimes impossible without evil deeds, noble motivations sometimes bring about evil outcomes"). Then there's the theme of "Is it evil if it's necessary for survival? Does it make one an evil person"? (Han shooting first arguably the earliest example of this motif). And on top of all that there's the jedi who embrace the belief that some individuals are indeed inherently evil - which begs the question whether the phenomenon of "falling to the dark side" is not a direct product of this very belief that one must be either one of The Good or one of The Evil, a self-fulfilling prophecy if you will. Star Wars is about struggling with the dilemma and testing the upsides, downsides and risks of the possible answers, not about kicking evil's ass.
In thought it was a little silly, but the general reaction to it is over the top.
What's wrong with the witches feeling that they exist in a "gray" area? That's just their ideology. It's not meant to be a sweeping statement about the Force or how everyone watching the show is meant to view it.
Because the Force is an inherent feature of the Star Wars universe. It has a light side, and a dark side. You're basically saying "what if gravity was sometimes repulsive instead of attractive?" but that can't possibly be true in the universe we exist in. A "grey" area of the Force can't exist in the universe of Star Wars.
@@BittermanAndy Cool but that's not what I was arguing.
@@Solo13508 ok, so it's what they're arguing, and you're saying it's reasonable. Same difference.
@@BittermanAndy The Bendu also claims to be the "one in the middle". Various other Force groups across both canon and EU claim to exist in a "grey" area. Don't see anyone complaining about them though.
Understanding the yin and yang symbol helps understand the show. ☯️
Light does not contain an equal part darkness. Balance in SW was more Nicomachean Ethics or Having light in a sufficient quantity to proceed forward.
@@stevena.7022 yin is not darkness, that’s a common misconception. Outside of the symbol is the dark side.