Think Different Challenge - The Apple PIIe - Part 4
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When Dad joins in on a project and fixes everything you did wrong
Thanks Dad
Thanks Dad.
Exactly what I was thinking.
Thanks dad
Bahahaha so true!!
Think Different Challenge: Make your own mod!
David: *Im going to remove everything*
It had to be done... hot glue? bunch of amateurs.
@@jgg75 yeah he absolutely roasted them lol these amateur
That's what happens when you know what you're doing but then then Pro joins the project.
@@sorrenblitz805 What?
he removed substandard work
Techmoan: installs a tube amp system.
there's certainly plenty of room left in that case and a tube amp would be ultra cool - probably would need to have active cooling for the case interior introduced though
more like nixie tubes and VU display/meters
Could have a vent in the top to see the glow of the valves, that'd be really neat.
And a Mini Disc drive.🤣
Don't forget: a MIDI port (DIN)
"about 8 hours later my packages arrived" If my amazon could be that fast I would never go shopping again
I was thinking the same!
2 hours here in chicago.
I have 1 day shipping
"Same day shipping" takes about 3 days for me... Ive never had one take less than 2
If you have Prime, it can be delivered the same day AFAIR. Of course in some locations, not in a middle of fking nowhere, Gobi Desert or Detroit.
Dang, David was BRUTAL on these guys and their hot glue work. I was cracking up.
LOL he was almost as harsh as Lord Voultar would have been 🤣
Imagine Voultar getting a hold of all of this hot glue mess... he'd be all like ohh.... My god. And dammit hot glue this and Jesus Christ hot glue something else
Hot glue and twisted wire connections are just one step above breadboarding. They allow you to transport your machine without immediate malfunctions!
David is always passive aggressive like that lol
I love this idea. Gonna go check out the other parts now.
Many thanks! Enjoy! 👍🕹️
Next, Send it to LGR! Wood grain the entire thing :P
So... planning to go to London for a hamburger?
I read this in your "Duke" voice
Wood grain it :)
I hope Perifractic recovered from all the burns he received in this episode. 😂
"If I have to buy 1 thing from Amazon I might as well buy everything from Amazon" . Dude, that's why all your favourite shops are closed.
Yeah I’m trying to buy less stuff from them and more from other merchants. It’s a tough habit to break.
Eh, retail is garbage. competing based on location was never really proper competition, it was inefficient, everyone working in it hated it, get rid of it. yeah amazon is fucked and monopolies are fucked, but we would have been fine with something like ebay replacing most physical stores.
I would more than rather to just walk into a store to get something than wait for days and have to pay a bunch of people extra that shouldn't get much money in the first place to have them fuck it up and throw it at my door. But also I wish the stores would just have what I needed. You always see stuff that nobody bloody buys or even wants to buy. If stores just sell shit that people need instead of stupid idiot accountants/purchasers stocking what they like we'd have more people buying in shops.
Fry's killed itself. Buying 10 bucks of things won't stop a bad CEO
Am I the only one who saw "Part 4" and thought there were three 8 bit guy episodes I somehow missed?
I did too 😂
Same.
This is a collaboration project between youtubers and the result will be presented in a giveway.
Very cool. Right?
If only!
the rest of the episodes are NOT on this channel
lol, hello friend from Gaming Garbage. :)
Greetings, 9-bit guy!
😂
An extra bit for parity!
Now with a patity bit.
The 8-bit government won't approve this
1 bit is reserved for parity
"I really like this little 7 port USB hub..."
Ladies and gentleman, that hub is nicknamed "the Mac killer", as it backfeeds 5volts into the USB type B port when used with an external PSU.
th-cam.com/video/Uh6iKilgtG0/w-d-xo.html
Oof
I killed one xbox 360 joystick, one apple keyboard and one usb port on my iMac because of that sucker! The use of a 9V psu could have helped too... ^^
Dump Radioactive Liquid Inside Its Gonna Overheat And Catch On Fire
And Also Dump Liquid Fire/Sulfuric Acid On the Computer It Will Melt Everything
@@DespairMMX3030 wat
@@DanTDMJace this hub is. The bomb!
Tip: Stick a magnet tot the case when drilling or Dremeling. It will prevent the metal pieces to fly around the case and cause shorts in your electronics.
The IIe backpanel is aluminum alas.
If you need to make clean holes in panel aluminum nothing beats a two-part punch die. Motorheads use these all the time, so do Test & Instrumentation guys and A/C guys and marine electricians to name a few. They are thirty to two hundred bucks and they cut clean holes in two steps faster than it took to trace that nickel with a Sharpie. There are TH-cam videos on the commoner sorts. They even come in D-sub patterns and keyed holes nearly impossible to approximate with a burr.
And magnetize your drill bit ;)
The 9-BIt Guy! Like the 8-Bit Guy but with parity.
He has an extra bit, in case something "goes missing" :P
It's The ECC-Bit Guy!
@@unlokia wtf why u are here... nokia phone unlocker...
Error corecting code = ecc
this is why i love certain comment sections.
(2:31) _"The 9-Bit Guy"_
When you're last in the chain, you one up everyone. *^_^*
one for parity
Part 5 - Linus Tech.
Put a Nvidia Card on it.
Liquid cooling. :P
RGB.
Tons of it. And a custom water loop
@Matt Diazepam hE'S uSING a cOMMODORE 64>
NO!! HE WOULD DROP AND BREAK IT! hahahahhaahhahaha
@Matt Zilog No. But you are.
Built-in analog audio on RPi isn't great, since Pi doesn't have proper DAC.
That's probably why USB audio device was connected.
Considering that the original Apple II had a speaker connected to an address decoder (so it would click whenever this memory location was addressed, to produce 1 but digital audio), the Raspberry Pi's built-in PWM audio is, paradoxically, probably too good for an accurate emulation. It is much more straightforward to the 1 bit audio with a proper DAC.
😁 Totally reminds me of every project me and my grandpa did together. I would come up with some idea and jerry-rig everything, hot gluing shit all over the place, just making a total mess of stuff (I'm definitely not saying that your guys' work was that bad, I was just giving an example of my work), and my erstwhile grandfather would stay up half the night cleaning up my mess and generally making everything look neat and orderly. While I had the dream, it was my grandpa that brought it to life. Thanks granddad.
lucky you
The gentle ribbing between these TH-camrs was extremely amusing. Thank you!
We probably deserved it 😂🕹️
sisterhood of the traveling piie
I thought you had typed "PILE" - I was gonna agree.
11:56 up until this point in the video, I was wondering the whole time "when is he gonna start retrobriting everything?" lol
Gotta make sure it's the right color.
Such a great job I love the tidiness and cleaness of all, you were the only one to do things with quality so everything stays in place working for years.
Thanks for finishing this project in your inimitable way! Very nice work sir! And sorry for the hot glue and single screw situation. Glad you fixed that. :)
Still a fan of your work!
👍🏼
We need more colab like this. Jan your a master !
It seemed like the right thing to do at time
was still awesome.
Says “ That sucker is NOT moving.” *rocks the sucker back and forth* *the sucker moves*
it's moving up and down a little, but not side to side
HAHAHAHAHAHA
The only thing that moves is the whole plate it is mounted to, ergo it isn't going anywhere.
Man, you're really talented! And with the passion level you do the things you do.. astonishing connection. That attitude is a state of the art, inspired me a lot, thanks!
When connecting L and R to a single speaker I would put a small resistor between them.
how come?
Resistance is futile.
I love how you basically cleaned up the mess and even retrobrote it for the aesthetic
Neat! I’d say you beefed it up quite a lot in terms of appearance and solid mounting. 💪🏼👍🏼😎
2:33 Somewhere out there is the 9Bit Guy, depressed and dealing with rejection.
Sad
18:03 “The 8-Bit Governor”
Even though David rocked it as per usual, I can’t help but feel bad for all the work the other gents put in when he got it and was like “nah y’all”
i see some people disagreeing with how he had a "heres how its done" attitude, but i cant blame him. why was hot glue used in the first place? why was the stuff seemingly placed at random? as far as i see, 8bitguy is the only person who actually decided to put effort into this..
I assume they went with a temporary mount with hot glue so it could be moved as other TH-camrs added their mods and sigs to the case.
He also has the attitude to end the project, like it can't be improved anymore.
Okurka That's fair...he did mention that their were a few additional things he might have wanted to do, and that you could keep modding and improving it indefinitely. Watching the Mindflare Retro's video they had a pretty fun back and forth so I hope that playful attitude means that everyone got along nicely on this project.
Hot gluing a power supply is just dumb.
Those ppl need to get over themselves. There is no excuse for shoddy work. He has a here's how it's done attitude, and he's right too! This is in fact how it's done! Can't blame him for it when he is actually right!
That red video RCA plug really grinds my gears.
Me, watching the stand off mounts be added: "Oh, yeah. That hits the spot. It's been bugging me that they weren't done that way from the get go."
This was a great conclusion to a very fun project. Some quality mounting was done here, sir, and the Retr0brighted case cover was the perfect final touch. Well done! Good luck to the winner of the ApplePIIe!
"I have to go to Amazon to buy one of the parts I might as well buy everything I need on Amazon"
Jeff Bezos: **clasps hands** "Excellent"
no. It should be "Jezz Bezos: *claps hand slowly and mysteriously* "Excellent"
And then he laments over businesses closing down...
@@ErebosGR True - but the fact remains it is less effort & cheaper to just buy it on Amazon(or elsewhere online). You can spend a day driving around looking for what you need and often not finding it - or just buy it online.
@@nondemify/videos That's not what he did. He found some of the parts he was looking for there but he chose to not buy ANYTHING locally after all, because he'd rather buy EVERYTHING from Amazon.
@@ErebosGR Buying anything locally made the whole effort less efficient and more expensive than just buying all the items he needed online. There is no avoiding the fact that making a local effort cost him more money..and time.
It just crazy that you made this one like a factory reset with internal Rasp. Congratulations and that's why I love this channel.
I love that pietism you put into dremmeling thar hole for an RCA jack. Retrobriting the case was also brilliant idea, same with rifling the metal case. I love your attention to details. You're my great inspiration!
>wants to improve computer
>removes features
sounds like apple thinking to me dave xDDDD
Shaneequa Naynay come on that’s pretty funny. Good one.
Go back to your DVD drives and Firewire ports then.
Chad Lipscomb
I see that apple fan boy here is getting triggered over a joke...
SameerSlash I see that you are assuming things
@Carlos Jorge
That wasn't an assumption, that was a fact.
But it does in fact make my eye wattery that you apple fan boys have hearts and look out for each other. 😂
Thank you for bringing my "proof of concept" through the finish line in style. Your work is very satisfying to watch, Dad. I don't love hot snot either, though to be fair it perhaps is a fair temporary choice for a prototype where others will need to move the parts around 🤷♂️ And here's the contest winner!: th-cam.com/video/rKRXfbogW4E/w-d-xo.html See you at Duke's m8 🕹️🍔 - ԹҽɾíƒɾɑϲԵíϲ
🍔
Please keep those wonderfully cringe-inducing puns coming!!!
@@ncc74656m I will never ever stop! 👍🍻
It has been a Marvellous idea if you haven't been told. I'm also sure that it has helped to all of you to increase subscriptors and I'm very happy about that.
You're very talented. Now I want to see what's next ;)
@@tyralexander Put that in your blender, blender
last time i went to solder some leads, i was having a tough time - thx for reminding me that you should 'tin the leads first' - great episode. i like how you up'd the bar on the hotglue mess, and really showed in so many small ways how a project can be improved.
Love this video, not that it was meant it as a big WTF to anyone; but I did love how you mounted everything in a better way. Love this Channel, keep up the good work man. Also then to go the extra mile not only in the mounting of other components, but then the RCA jack mounting, and the retrobright, good on ya mate.
"Amazon. About 8 hours later my packages arrived" wat.
Amazon Prime
Amazon offers same-day delivery to customers that live close enough to a warehouse. 8-Bit Guy is in North Texas and so is an Amazon warehouse.
@@hzzlrp10 I think he uses the same Fry's I use. which just seems wild to me. who knows how close to me he lives?
@@Strawberry92fs heh yes I go to the same one if it's in Plano. There should be one in mesquite but I don't know if that one is still around. Actually I think there's one near the airport too though.
Want one!
Wait.. 8 hours later off amazon? I wish i could get stuff that fast.
It could get down to 2 hours soon for paying prime members.
prime
Amazon Prime Prime.
Amazon prime now is awesome. 2 hr delivery times in major cities.
We have shuttl here in the UK too that offers 60 minute delivery times from local shops, they basically go in, collect your order and drive it to you.
Two Day shipping for me in Maine usually takes 4 days.
8bit guy you totally nailed it, you did everything properly and upped the build standard of the machine, as a worker that ops for quality myself i really like what you did there :)
That actually was pretty cool. I was the cool guy on the block in the day. While residing in my dorm back in the mid 80s, I had an Apple II+ with WP software and a printer. People used to PAY ME to type THEIR OWN papers into my WP, and save it to disk and print. I drank for free for two years. :)
Funny thing, before computers were everywhere and everyone (kind of) knew how to use them, you could genuinely make a business out of word processing. My mother ran such a business out of our house the entire time I was growing up. She also did medical transcription - taking a doctor's audio recorded notes and putting them in text format.
She only ended up closing shop in 2004, and that was mainly because we moved away from all her clients.
Duke Burger? Sounds like LGR‘s kind of place!
LGR Would explode haha
That's what I was thinking lol
Oh, Red Dwarf, very nice!
Just don't mess up my hair!
What a brilliant video! One of 8 bit guy's best. He has so much skill and dedication! Fascinating
So much for everyone elses work on the thing. You had to show em all up by re-doing their work and such.
I gotta admit, I kinda freaked out when you put that tap in your cordless drill. Experience has taught me on more than one occasion to only ever use a hand crank chuck and cutting oil on tap bits. Also, I applaud you decision to solder splice and heat shrink the audio wires along with the sticky back mounts for zip-tying wires!
In the end it looks like a very clean and professional addition to the project! Bravo!
9:02
*_flex tape is super strong_*
Now thats a lot of damage!
@@camilaitor1 * stabs bucket *
camilaitor1 *I sawed some guys boat in half!*
Your intro gives me a warm fuzzy nostalgic feeling. Love it!
8-bit, you are so good. True techie and regular guy at the same time. Thanks for sharing with us.
Awesome work on the mounting. Hotsnot is one of my pet peeves, especially when a bit of patience chuns out a near professional result.
"Next I use my finger to feel around for the hole"
I love your passion to these old beauties ! And I love the project ! Keep on doing the good job !
This feels like a pbs show and I love it
I was hoping to see it in LGR's hands next. That would have been EPIC!
You know damn well clint wouldn’t have added anything electronic and would’ve just slapped a nice woodgrain finish on that thing
Good old Clint would have added wood grain and also the internals of an apple II e
@@daffyduck9562 I dunno... he might have added a scsi adapter and dual Sega Saturn controller ports, as he has done before to other projects.
he would have put in actually Apple ii hardware and woodgrain finish
@Old Games Reviews uyy hasta que veo un comentario en español en estos canales!!
You need to rename the channel to "The 8-bit Guv'nah."
I'm down with that
I, too, am down.
yes
Bad idea, gov'na is too close to the russian word "govno", that means "shit".
Not everything revolves around Russia, man. Поверь мне, я сам из России.
Man. This was the most respectful and constructive critique i've heard of a hardware store... Unfortunately true for most Hardwarestores nearby to me... Gread Vid!!!!
Finishes the project with style.
Anybody critical of you being disrespectful of the others' work needs to pay attention: You left all of their additions intact (apart from the disconnected parallel port) and only modified the setup to be more stable and durable. We should all have as much patience and tolerance for bodges in a long-term product as you had because when you know a project is being finished and given as a prize, you ought to have your best presentation -- and this really is just about the best you could achieve for the work done here.
The series was great and really goes to show how even a shell of an old computer can still be made relevant for modern use, and I think all of you made great additions to the project -- and that you, 8-Bit Guy, did a great job of closing up the project and bringing a professional feel to final product.
I absolutely love this collaboration. Perifractic's fast become one of my favorite channels, and I adore this whole project!
Thank you so much! That warms my retro heart. All the channels are brilliant. 👍🕹️🍻
No way - I live right next to The Duke in Notting Hill! Can’t believe I probably missed one of my fav youtubers by just a few meters 😭
Whaddayamean "one of"? 😂👍🕹️
Not long until the carnival now eh! :D
God damn dude, you tidied that machine up like crazy.
The idea for this project is fantastic and just a really fun and interesting, I'd love to see more stuff like this :D
I absolutely ADORE your videos, they're entertaining, informative, and super chill. I love it :)
Hi Dave! For future reference, with regard to mounting tape such as was used on the USB sound device: You can saw through the tape with a piece of string.
Also, two emphatic thumbs up for using a flush cutter on your zip ties - it is so wonderful being able to reach into a machine and not have your hands scratched to pieces by jagged edges of zip tie tails....
The award for the name "The Voiceover Guy" is The 8-Bit Guy!
This video properly demonstrates why you're the best guy for the job of building your own console. Excellent job!
Love the neatness of The 8-Bit Guy make-over of that Retro Apple IIe Computer :)
As far as soldering the wires. PLEASE learn how to do a linesmen's splice! There is nearly 0 chance of the wire poking through the shrink, you get a better mechanical linkage, and you also don't have to hold it while you solder.
even better he should've just soldered directly to the speaker.
@Hand Solo I bounce back and forth on pretwisting. I have overall abandoned it, as it seems to make it much harder to get the solder all the way through the connection, as the spacing gets much tighter between the individual strands, and it doesn't seem to... Intertwine, as well.
@@rubusroo68 I will give him a pass on that, as there are a variety of possible reasons why he didn't. Namely being soldering to those tabs can be very tough to do. But... He really needs to learn a better, cleaner way to join 2 wires...
@Hand Solo yup. Have seen this before, but I also frequently has to work with old nasty wire, so didn't notice a trend. I often was scraping the wires to get the built up crap off.
These wires were in factories for 10-25 years, and I was trying to fix the thing they connected.
This was fantastic. Maybe my favorite 8 Bit vid to date!
I realize this was meant to be used as an Apple IIe emulator primarily, but since the case is so huge, there's a lot of really cool functionality that could be added to it. Things I'd personally add:
1. Put an ethernet port on the back of the case in one of those empty holes (the one feature from the first video that no one carried on). I know wifi is easy, but it's nice to have options.
2. Since there's so much room in there, I'd add some USB controller adapters with the ports on the back (using more of those vacant slots). That way you could use official Genesis/Megadrive controllers on those games, SNES controllers on SNES, NES on NES, PS1 on PS1, N64 on N64, etc.
3. I'd use an SD Card extension port so the SD card is accessible from the outside of the case (or mount the Pi itself in a spot that'd make it accessible).
4. I think I'd also possibly relocate the Pi's LEDs to be visible from the front/keyboard area (Most likely re-wire the keyboard's LED to function as the Pi's power LED, and then relocate the SD card LED right next to it).
5. Install an RGB/Component-out hat onto the Pi and make those accessible in the back as well. That way you could play your games in beautiful RGB on RGB CRT monitors/TVs/PVMs/BVMs. Best possible signal for those old monitors.
6. Add a hard drive with even more games. You could put every game for every system the Pi can run at proper speeds on there that way.
There's probably other stuff I haven't thought of yet. I think I might have to build something like this myself. I've seen videos like these in the past, but this one has really got my juices flowing. I mean, there's a chance I'll win this system (a very small chance, judging by the amount of entries so far), but man, yeah. Hrm. Actually, for more power and more systems, it might just be better to forget the Pi and put an actual PC motherboard in there. It would also then be able to use RetroArch's Run-Ahead feature to basically remove input lag you normally get with emulators. Yeah. I don't really have the money to do all this at the moment. But, yes. Something like this needs to exist in my life. :D
Nice essay
One could seriously go all out feature creep.
I would route the audio to the back and have an option for stereo audio thru 2 RCA jacks or mono thru a 3.5mm jack. I would also have a switch so you could switch between stereo,mono,or internal
Why is this the only guy who knows how to do stuff correctly? By the way pealing off hot glue is always satisfying.
When I was a kid I was going to peel some satisfying hot glue off of a workbench, but it was still hot and I burned my finger.
Motherboard standoffs for the woot!
Love the Red Dwarf clip, brilliant episode!
Damn. He went Savage on everyone. Bet he's not included in the next project
Technically, he screwed the whole project.
He made everything better all the other are amatours
This is my favorite of your videos that I've seen so far, very well done and enjoyable to watch
Tell Jon St John about that resteraunt! If he's ever there in London he'll likely order the burger with more meat than his mouth can handle.
I'd improve it by adding an extra set of internal USB ports so that the Parallel Port could be used without a clunky looking cable coming out of the case and into the USB ports.
You're a woman, what do you know?
(!)
@@linushyper300 is this a joke or what de heck?
+ Ichspiel lp Shut up you little shit
Your template tip for the power supply was useful for me on a few things I'm working on. Thanks!
I would have loved to be on that project. I love restoration of cars and vintage electronics. Although this is not a traditional restoration, I am still loving this and it's right up my alley. I do Pi projects plenty so I think I may take a stab at this. Love your videos, 8-Bit Guy. They always make me beam with nostalgia.
That dude's voice so smooth, it's the world's roundest object
Next one should be the "Keeping up with the Commodore" challenge (putting something into an Amiga or C64 case) or the "Think" challenge (building a modern PC into an old IBM PC case).
I honestly want to make my own "Lazy Green Giant," albeit running modern operating systems. First, I'd need to figure out how to make a writable 5-1/4" floppy drive. I don't think an integrated PS/2 port should be too much of a problem, though. Right?
I could get into that!
PS/2 ports are still on many modern boards.
WCBROW01 Really? That makes using legacy keyboards easier if that really is the case.
I think the hardcore gamers still use PS/2 keyboards, as it has much less latency compared to USB. That's the reason why gamer motherboards still have at least one PS/2 on them.
You took this to a whole new level than what was previously done to this machine
Awesome job 8-Bit! You put your heart into it!
"Dogs trying to retrobrite their noses"
Well then... XD
the very nice work of all the participants is possible because the Apple IIe was made out of a metal, solid, spatious case, along with STANDARD PC connectors on the back; this shows the importance of building in a non propietary way, as of today Apple uses all integrated one-piece electronics+cases+displays and even the screws are totally non standard (think trilobes and crap like that)
Still doesn't scare Louis Rossmann though
Aww man. David you are a real mercenary - you shat all over them for the glue and the failure to solder the wiring :D That's priceless. A little good natured poke in the ribs never hurt anyone.
A smile that can cut you to pieces :) They won't do that again!! Lol. David is a genius.
I don't see why so many people feel he offended the other youtubers, he just improved on what they did and turned the working but messy mess into a working but properly fixed mess.
This video showing things getting properly mounted is balm for my soul after seeing what arrived! Ty 8-Bit Guy!
So cool! I wish this would happen more often!
8 bit guy rocks it again
Perifractic: everybody should make some improvements to the machine and fix issues, if any.
8bitguy: hold my beer
That's a wonderful challenge and David - you did great. How fun!
8-Bit Gov'nah!
сам говнах!!!
Personally, I would have upgraded to a Raspberry Pi 3 Model B or B+ (they both have 2 extra USB ports, which would let you connect the parallel port internally), but either way, cool video!
I always respect your workmanship. Top notch.
The Pi is such a nice and versital thing, I was realy suprised by things you could do, the Pi-1541 was one of the most suprising to me. The fact you could do something like this is amazing.
That case is in serious need of retrobrighting... Or is it painted metal?
He did retrobright it.
I believe it's metal. So retrobriting doesn't necessarily work as well, also you have to worry about potential rust.
Or both!!!
The bottom is metal and the top is plastic
Bromated plastic. Retrobrights just fine.
At 18:48 the end jumpcut has a single frame of: "(David doing this?)" and someone's apartment
so basically it makes its way to 8-bit guy, and he completely guts all previous guy's work lol
awesome to watch as well
I love how you are the only youtuber doing this job properly up to the point where you grind the metal away with literally every component installed and unprotected. Hotglueing electronics to metal plates is pretty brave but grinding metal chips right next to all the electronics is not much better :D