Claudia's Vampiric Birth (IWTV Season 1 and Season 2 Comparison)
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The way jacob delivers the "she asked if I was an angel" line is devastating. Despite how selfish and fucked up it is, I can't help but feel for him. I just love how they keep adding layers and nuance to these characters. Show of all time
I paused for a sec thinking "why would he think that's weird? He's a really nice guy"
Then I remembered he's a pimp turned thug turned some rich white boi's trophy husband... That's probably how he sees himself.
Louis's self esteem is always pretty low 😢
And that's how he becomes a "battered spouse".
I cannot emphasize enough how important it is that we get Lestat's version of the story. So far we've only seen Lestat through the eyes of Louis, Claudia and Armand, and they all succeed in painting him out to be a monster. I feel like getting Lestat's side will humanize him in a way. Can't wait for season 3 ♥️
It was really eye opening to see a bit of truth about Lestat. I like him even more now. He is a monster in terms of Louis, but not as much as Louis made him out to be. I found it interesting to see the “evil” side of Louis and the much more human, caring and loving side of Lestat. Really well done by both actors.
True @@starkgamescharmbracelet
So true
@@starkgamescharmbracelet I couldn't agree more. Lestat isn't perfect. But he's also not as cruel and heartless as Louis and Armand have made him out to be. And why does no one talk about the absolutely cruelty of Louis and Claudia trying to kill him?!!!
Lestat would have never EVER hatched a plot to kill Louis or even Claudia despite their problematic relationship. They did him really dirty
@@juanitamutisa1817 I slightly disagree with the killing of Lestat bit you mentioned.
Claudia knew she would never be able to leave, and that her whole purpose was to be there for Louis. Lestat was also at times, a cruel man toward her. He verbally told Claudia that he would “turn her bones to dust” if she ever left again. She just tried doing it to him before he could do it to her.
He resented her (which now that I know more of the whole truth about Lestat’s role, I don’t blame him quite as much) and treated her like a burden. (Ex; He told her, “We endure eachother for Louis’ happiness.” after she said “You don’t want me. You made me for Louis.”)
With that being said there were definitely multiple times where I somewhat agreed with Lestat treatment of her as a parent, simply because she needed a hard parent that she couldn’t get one over on. Examples: her unaliving spree where she sloppily left bodies all of the place, her unaliving that boy she liked (cruel treatment of forcing her to watch the boy burn, but I kind of understand it. She needed to see and remember what happened when she did things like that)
Seconds before Lestat found out that they were successfully able to kill him, he tried to kill Claudia, and held Louis there to watch.
He also beat Louis up when Louis wanted to leave, and dropped him 2 kilometres from the sky. But again, now that I know Louis told Lestat that he’d unalive Lestat before the sky fall… Louis being only beat up and not unalived must have said to him that Lestat loved him and would have never unalived him, but it must’ve been hard to see considering the severity of the beating.
Also, there’s the big factor that started it all: Louis was taken advantage of by Lestat when Lestat turned him. Louis is the victim overall. Lestat saw an attractive and interesting man who was depressed, friendless, lonely, familial and city outcast, who was a victim of racial oppression and turned him into a vampire.
Not only did this not make things better for Louis like he promised, it made them worse.
So I definitely can see a love/bond so strong they could never unalive Lestat, but also a hate so strong that they just had to because they were suffocating.
I like how not only Sam’s portrayal makes the mood of the scene totally different, but his whole look is softer due to the gorgeousssss hair, different lenses and makeup. It truly feels like a different POV
yes! in louis's pov he looks angry and stiff and his hair is frizzy and a mess. but in lestat's own pov he looks softer and calmer and his hair is smooth and longer. It really makes you think about where else did louis portray lestat as angry and mean when in fact he wasn't! I CANNOT wait for season 3!
Most definitely! "A daughter!? "A daughter?!" Same lines. Delivered differently.
The first is laughable. The second is heartfelt.
SAM.IS.A.GENIUS!
Even from s1, I knew we couldn't trust Louie's pov. He was pissed off at Lestat and plus all the trauma he'd been through. What sealed the deal for me was when Daniel pointed out Louie removed Claudia's journal entries that didn't match with his story and ignored Daniel when he told him Claudia extensively wrote about her anger/hatred for him. Yet Louie continued to act like they were a happy family. Claudia was correct in s2 when she said he becomes stupid when he gets a partner because he was just as delusional with Armand when the ultimate betrayal was in plain sight once the trial began.
I wish Louis could have kept his promise to Claudia: You and me. Me and you. You and me....
@@ananousousI see what you mean, but at some point their relationship became really strained and when Claudia found a companion, Louis took it as the perfect opportunity to kind of break free from that dysfunctionalality while also pursuing a relationship with Armand. It was supposed to be a perfect end to Louis and Claudia. In the end it's Armand who's to blame for what happened to Claudia.
@@juanitamutisa1817 Yea, I don't disagree with you. But I feel that Louis broke that promise well before Claudia had Madeleine too (not that it was unexpected of him)
And yeah, would have been a perfect end to their dysfunctional relationship. What would have been their "final" dinner scene was truly amazing to watch... (tho you know who had to ruin it)
@@ananousous It was a beautiful scene. Louis and Claudia were both happy for the first time in a long time. Armand was so wrong for that
@@juanitamutisa1817 Was Louis truly happy though? He never stopped having hallucinations of Lestat.
I just realized that Lestat was thinking about Nicholas when he was shouting to Louis about loving her and how she'll be miserable, and that it will spiral out of control- perhaps thats how it unfolded with his first love. Nicky probably already had some dormant mental health problems before being turned, vampirism seemed to bring them out, and Lestat could do nothing but watch Nicky decline until he walked into the fire. I cant wait till season 3. So many questions to be answered.
Precisely
@@amandafaye5822 Who is Nicholas?
@@suzygirl1843 Lestat’s first fledgling. He’s in season 2 briefly
Yes! Sam Reid (in an interview) believes this was Lestat’s motivation in this moment. He said he was thinking about Nicky. Nailed it!👍🏾❤️
@@amandafaye5822 Second fledgling. He made his mother, Gabrielle, first (to save her from dying of sickness).
2:07 i love how he's not talking about claudia, he's talking about nicki. "she will be miserable, and you will love her, and it will spiral beyond your reach." nicki was miserable, and lestat's love for him couldn't keep him from his death. and ON THE HEELS of louis bringing up lestat's fear of abandonment right after he's going through the flashback of being abandoned by nicki. "i''ll stay. please, i'll never leave you, ever again," and "please, i'll be anything," and how can he not help but inadvertently repeat his mistakes with nicki, changing claudia, to help them from repeating with louis? season 3 is going to be incredible when we hear more about this
Look at the way Louis *Drags* claudia across the floor. Like a toy or a doll. He had already claimed her as their "daughter", he wanted to , in a way show some kind of control over Lestat. Like he KNEW Lestat would do this for him. Despite what he said. Claudia was just something else to posses.
Because it's like Daniel said at the end of dragon one: he's still a pimp.
And no, I don't mean that in any kind of positive way. F*ck Louis.
I think part of him was clinging to the idea that someone could see him positively. She asked if I was an angel and all that
Now, wait a minute. First of all, don't tell me this! I'm crying again 😭.
Secondly, I do think he wanted to save her. Two things can be true. Remember, Louis felt a fault for the town's people being attacked by an action he did. He did, however, have a selfish motivation because of that. But I think they all mingle together: Feeling guilty about the fire, wanting to save a young Black girl's "life", using Lestat to do it (guilt by proxy from Lestat turning Louis, thereby leading to this incident), family, forgiveness, betrayal. ..all that jazz 😂.
But, yeah, I CRIED 😢😫😥 my eyes out at Louis pulling that poor defeated girl around the room like that. My heart sunk. Never watched that scene again.
how can you see louis, on his knees, begging lestat, telling him, “i’ll be whatever you want, i’ll do whatever you want. i’ll never leave” and think louis is in control? what louis did to claudia is irresponsible and selfish but his relationship with claudia has nothing to do with possession. he feels a deep sense of guilt and this action is done in a desperate attempt at salvation and redemption. he projects onto claudia initially but eventually understands how he wronged her. thats why he turns madeline for claudia.
if this action is so evil, then so is lestat coercing louis into vampirism so he could be his companion when louis was at his lowest and most vulnerable. that action set in motion the deep grief, loneliness and conflict of morality that led louis to make claudia.
@@aishah7730 thank u for this reply i feel like everyone is being overly harsh towards louis but as even lestat says "guilt had seized reason." he genuinely loved claudia in the end, i don't think he ever saw her as a possession
I have so many thoughts on Lestat and Claudia's relationship now. 1. He basically prohisiezed what was going to happen - pain ans anxiety will be her only birthright. You will regret this for as long as you live, maybe he was so cold towards Claudia because he new she would eventully self disctruct. 2. Maybe he stopped her from going to Europe because he knew she would be seen as an abomination. 3 Maybe he didn't educate Louis and Claudia on the laws for that reason and selfishly he knew that with knowledge would come distance (like him and Armand)
Lestat was not allowed to talk about the vampire history and laws. Marius forbade it and threatened to hurt him and his fledglings if he spoke.
@@nocontextlestat Ty for this insight!
He also made a promise not to reveal certain secrets. He knew so much but couldn't share with those he loved.
@@ChildOfChaos07 Ty!
Ya know the looks they give Louis, Daniel at 2:39 and Armand at 2:53, feels like they are having the same thoughts on Louis pushing that fate on to Claudia. I think it's one the few times Armand isn't putting on performance either. Both of the knew it was kind of f'd up. It's a strange moment of them being in silent agreement about something tho I don't think they would acknowledge it. Stellar acting from everyone. Especially Sam Reid in both versions as Lestat.
Sam's French accent on English is pitch perfect. His French accent on French would only trip up a native speaker. His face acting? Unparalleled. He is brilliant in this part. As is Jacob, whose voice control is breathtaking.
Perfect editing! They really filmed these seamlessly (other than Sam’s hair being shorter😄)- and Delainey truly picked up beautifully from Bailey❤️🔥❤️🔥
However even the difference in hair can be explained in Louis version that may be how he remembered Lestat but in Lestat version he is seeing it as his current self.
@@sarcasticsid5589 Love that explanation!
In Louie’s pov, he convinced himself he was doing the right thing he was saving her life (out of guilt). But looking back in Lestat’s pov, Louie questions did I really save her or did I just ruin her more?
I mean we see in Louie’s pov, Lestat is a monster (and some of us believed it). But in neutral viewpoint, Lestat did everything in the interest of Louie (to keep him happy)
@@T.Gotabag Exactly what I was thinking. Maybe Claudia was gift from love from Lestate to Louis. Maybe Lestat's not the beast we think he is.
It makes sense for Claudia’s recollection to be disjointed as well. She is literally dying from pain and her burns. It’s a miracle she was comatose enough to journal about it.
was just thinking I wanted to go back and compare the s1 version, so thanks for this. I have to give Louis credit for being willing to admit was wrong/misremembering. A lot of people would never acknowledge it when it made them look worse.
I love the side-by-side points of view in the show and how you show them in the videos. That's why I love this show so much, the writing!
Og : I want some more
New: you want more?😂😂😂
Thank you so much for editing this comparison!! It’s really interesting to see side by side, especially since there was a few months between me watching s1 and s2
Brilliant to have them side by side like this thank you
Omg❤ no matter the motive and the outcome, Louie has Lestat under his magical spell 😢 these two belong together forever 🔥🔥🔥🩸🩸🩸I can’t wait for season 3❤❤❤ thanks for sharing ❤❤❤
No. Lestat deserves better. Louis is sh*t and sh*t is what he deserves.
3:10 when i watched s2e7 i was crying up until this point, i don't know how yall dont burst out laughing it's just so funny how it's PERFECT for the "can i rizz u up" meme
Could you do a vid with scenes playing back to back instead of simultaneously?
no, sorry.
@@nocontextlestatlmao
Does anyone know the name of the music that starts playing around 2:23?