MTG Top 10: Spiders | Magic: the Gathering | Episode 411

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  • @NizzahonMagic
    @NizzahonMagic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    As has been pointed out, Giant Trap Door Spider can only go after non-flyers -- which makes more sense flavor-wise.

    • @joejonnyjeff
      @joejonnyjeff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They're pointing out that you said "However, it does still hate on fliers and can give itself up to take one down that's attacking." Which presumably was a misread of "-which doesn't have flying" since nowadays it's "without flying", so "-have flying" reads as "-has flying" in one's mind. I also misread it at first

  • @elnatanbitensky8314
    @elnatanbitensky8314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Chainweb Aracnir was important for the rogue matchup, as it gave you a way to shrink your graveyard while taking care of one of their creatures.

  • @bkoopa6464
    @bkoopa6464 3 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    Giant Trap Door Spider doesn't hate on flyers, in fact, it can't interact with them.

    • @blakecandesign9628
      @blakecandesign9628 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I’m sure somewhere deep down inside, Giant Trap Door Spider doesn’t really like flyers though. Trap Door probably thinks they’re real jerks!

    • @nathanl8622
      @nathanl8622 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@blakecandesign9628 It hates that it can't hate on them.

    • @chrayez
      @chrayez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It definitely hates flyers though - it never invites them inside.

    • @Cynsham
      @Cynsham 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nathanl8622 He hates on them like an old man shaking his fist at the neighborhood kids saying “get off my lawn!!” from the safety of his chair

  • @christopherb501
    @christopherb501 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    #8 - Fun fact for you young'uns; back in the day, reach wasn't a keyword ability. The effect of it was commonplace, as this list demonstrates, but it wasn't until later in the same block here - in Future Sight - that reach emerged as an ability. As such, it led to a couple of curious rulings with cards like Penumbra Spider. The token it creates could "block as tho it had flying" but it didn't have its own ability guaranteeing that. As such, if it were to lose abilities, like with Snakeform, Ovinize, or the classic Humility, it _would_ be reduced to a 1/1...but it still had *effective* reach, as the capability to block flyers was granted from the outside effect of Penumbra Spider, not from the token's own abilities. If it were made "Humble", and a flyer attacked, it could still intercept it. Same goes for the ol' Marit Lage token that Dark Depths created it simply _was_ "indestructible", it didn't actually have it as a keyword, or even an ability of "This is indestructible" as it used to be handled. Humiliate Marit Lage, they'd still be impervious to Earthquake and Damn(ation) and whatnot. It was _most_ peculiar in hindsight.

  • @AkhierDragonheart
    @AkhierDragonheart 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I wonder if any top tier player will ever start including rotating pool of niche cards in their side board to get their favorite under appreciated creature type enough points to get a top ten here? I would find that hilarious. Like, its a mono green deck but has this random red card in the sideboard that they can't possibly ever play and no one would play anyway just to mess with these.

    • @bfrobin446
      @bfrobin446 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I’d assume that most point-scoring events are competitive enough that if you don’t use all 15 sideboard slots for cards that might come in, you’re cutting into your chance of making the top 8.

    • @worf7680
      @worf7680 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      "Somehow in the year 2023 raging goblin has accrued over 200 points!"

  • @SirGrimLockSmithVIII
    @SirGrimLockSmithVIII 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    You ever thought of doing lists of your personal favorite cards based on different themes?
    Like your favorite zombies or your favorite shamans. This approach would let you shed light on some potentially underrated cards that don't have to conform to the point system.

    • @TheGloriousLobsterEmperor
      @TheGloriousLobsterEmperor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I'm with you, that sounds like some fun videos.

    • @NizzahonMagic
      @NizzahonMagic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I do it from time to time, but mostly I feel like that's content other people are putting out there. What makes mine unique is that I use data.

  • @TheGloriousLobsterEmperor
    @TheGloriousLobsterEmperor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Ahhh spiders, as an Australian I'm very used to dealing with spiders. We actually speak their language, and they all really want "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)"!

    • @nickalasmontano1496
      @nickalasmontano1496 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      And why should we acquiesce to the spiders' demands? So that they may become yet more powerful and bolder?

    • @TheGloriousLobsterEmperor
      @TheGloriousLobsterEmperor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@nickalasmontano1496 Because the spiders and the lobsters are friends. You mess with one, you mess with both.

    • @AFnord
      @AFnord 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor Could you not just ask the tigers to deal with the lobsters?

    • @TheGloriousLobsterEmperor
      @TheGloriousLobsterEmperor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AFnord Nah the tigers don't factor into the equation. Just the spiders, lobsters, and turnips.

    • @AFnord
      @AFnord 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor That's what a lobster would say! I'm pretty certain that when a tiger is around, a lobster won't dare to attack or block. Though lobsters do scare lizards, and if there's a lizard around, then the tiger will be paralyzed with fear....

  • @matth9788
    @matth9788 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love the spooky theme for October. Have you done a "sacrifice" video yet? Best cards that require a sacrifice. I think Birthing Pod would be No. 1 but I'd be interested to see what other cards make the list.

  • @crooker23
    @crooker23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    spider spawning was the wincon in my first ever magic deck, a golgari graveyard deck I made on duel of the planeswalkers. fondly remember playing it, always felt good

    • @staggerlee2774
      @staggerlee2774 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah spider spawning was disgusting in limited.

  • @mattblom3990
    @mattblom3990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Early into my time with Magic spiders provided easily obtainable anti-air defence. They were priceless back then, so while I rarely play them now, it's cool to see the tribe get more respected.

  • @flaviocbrangel
    @flaviocbrangel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Someday, Lolth will be on this list

    • @flaviocbrangel
      @flaviocbrangel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe if Wizards bans Alrund’s Epiphany she’ll have a good shot at Standard.
      I’m sorry Nizzahon and other bird enthusiasts, but right now the card’s just too good.
      Which makes me think of a potential revisit of 10 extra turn spells sometime soon? Between Time Warp Velomachus’ brief prevalence in Historic and the egregious way the aforementioned card is shaping the current rotating format, surely the list has gone through some changes.

    • @NizzahonMagic
      @NizzahonMagic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Time Warp was already on that list, so yeah, it has more points, but the list on the whole won't be much different.

    • @hornydolphin1393
      @hornydolphin1393 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      just opened a foil lotlh in a random forgotten adventures booster pack i bought yesterday on a whim

  • @MrAskmannen
    @MrAskmannen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Deadly recluse is my fav spider. Deathtouch AND reach for only 2 mana!

  • @emperornapoleon6204
    @emperornapoleon6204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That chainweb arachnir is no joke. It can kill V clique and Brazen Borrower for one mana. Not too shabby.

    • @jamesgratz4771
      @jamesgratz4771 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good the borrower is a hindrance to many life totals lol

  • @mrhaftbar
    @mrhaftbar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Honestly, not expected to find two ice age cards in this list.

    • @NizzahonMagic
      @NizzahonMagic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You would think such a cold set wouldn't have very many spiders.

  • @georgeducharme2819
    @georgeducharme2819 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the woolly spider artwork. Its actually in my top 3 artworks of all time. I like the retro works.

  • @peterklein3354
    @peterklein3354 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow - so long you have been doing this! Thank you!
    I think I missed the story of mill-decks - I like those too. Can I find it?
    Edit: maybe 'drawing dead' would be more interesting for history. Stasis stuff..... bad memories

  • @SerathDarklands
    @SerathDarklands 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't think it'll make the list, but my favorite spider is the Silklash Spider. It's a 2/7 for 3GG. It has reach and an activated ability for XGG that lets it do X damage to each creature with flying.
    EDIT: Cool! It did make the list! It's at the bottom, but it's still there!

  • @eleronpfoutz7823
    @eleronpfoutz7823 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You know, for as much as it's been printed, not seeing good old-fashioned Giant Spider on here makes me sad.

  • @OmneAurumNon
    @OmneAurumNon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can I just say the hidden Spider flavor text is chilling

  • @yu205718
    @yu205718 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant intro and spooky graphics, absolutely puts us in the Halloween spirit!

  • @rfs8194
    @rfs8194 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool, you're awarding points for pauper now! Which events are you looking at for that?

  • @BionMTG
    @BionMTG 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn you Nizzahon... Now I'm mentally going through the old "could I make a viable spider EDH list?" haha
    Great vids, and keep em coming!

  • @SmugLookingBarrel
    @SmugLookingBarrel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes, the amazing intro is back!

  • @SephonDK
    @SephonDK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loving that intro

  • @littlegeek5159
    @littlegeek5159 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lolth waiting room, he even acknowledges it.

  • @milesrinesmith141
    @milesrinesmith141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Silklash Spider was reprinted in M13

  • @akitoemery8651
    @akitoemery8651 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a relatively new magic player blue green pickle is suddenly my new favorite deck

  • @Wack..
    @Wack.. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im surprised rotwidow pack didnt make the list

  • @toddpilling4985
    @toddpilling4985 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you in the show notes include what is a tier 1 event and what is a tier 2 event.

    • @NizzahonMagic
      @NizzahonMagic  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is answered in the video's introduction.

  • @runningtacoforlife
    @runningtacoforlife 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Surprised ancient spider sisters make the list. A staple in my spider deck.

  • @weegeelinguini3704
    @weegeelinguini3704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember you doing this like, 4 years ago

  • @videogamesai
    @videogamesai 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this top 10 because it has Ice Age and Onslaught cards

  • @jajahatman8842
    @jajahatman8842 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What about my boi Deadly Recluse? :(

  • @vincent-antoinesoucy1872
    @vincent-antoinesoucy1872 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pauper is my favorite format, I like the representation here ^^

  • @TotallyTribal
    @TotallyTribal 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Intro was sick

  • @tomaszjackowski1981
    @tomaszjackowski1981 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love that intro.

  • @aliertufekci1993
    @aliertufekci1993 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Giant Trap Door Spider sounds so much like a spoof card :D

    • @fastydave
      @fastydave 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Trapdoor spiders are real, beware

  • @mattparkman3467
    @mattparkman3467 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As always, love the content, but.
    What grabbed my attention is you.
    Looking slim and healthy there mate.
    Whatever you're doing is working.

  • @flobo23
    @flobo23 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    cool, have a nice halloween time!

  • @MrDamojak
    @MrDamojak 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait, there are actually big pauper tournaments?

    • @NizzahonMagic
      @NizzahonMagic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep, on MTGO.

    • @MrDamojak
      @MrDamojak 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NizzahonMagic so dope

  • @virgiliojuarez916
    @virgiliojuarez916 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting video. How about off-colored representative creatures for a future top 10?

  • @latsblaster
    @latsblaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nya Weaver was played in 2015 with Rally the Ancestors? Why no points?

    • @NizzahonMagic
      @NizzahonMagic  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No version running the Weaver ever Top 8'd any remotely professional event

  • @danilzashikhin3591
    @danilzashikhin3591 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    could you do the top 10: modern sideboard cards?

  • @oliverwilson11
    @oliverwilson11 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's nice to see Pauper finally getting "tier 2" events
    But I'm sad for all the points Ninja of the Deep Hours could have accumulated by now if he was given recognition earlier

  • @ROMANTIKILLER2
    @ROMANTIKILLER2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wanted to come up with a clever pun on spiders, but since I wasn't able to, I'll simply comment that it's a pity that a spider-based EDH powerhouse like Arachnogenesis never saw competitive play.

  • @joarsturve7103
    @joarsturve7103 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favourite spider isn't on this list as it isn't legal in most formats. It's Thantis the Warweaver as it is one hell of a fun commander.

  • @edgarthebrave4104
    @edgarthebrave4104 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    magic and spiders, for me two good reason to watch this video :D

  • @keiharris332
    @keiharris332 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Someone must have been drunk when they typed out giant trap door spider lol

  • @KaoticWhisper
    @KaoticWhisper 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need to skip someones untap step, only to use end the turn on them as soon as I have priority :D

  • @jfmedits1577
    @jfmedits1577 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    love the mtg SPOOKY VIDEOS

  • @noctusdoesthings
    @noctusdoesthings 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was hoping Arachnus Spinner would be back

  • @AidanWR
    @AidanWR 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are only two spiders without reach, unless I'm forgetting one, which I might, in magic

  • @Redfoxe
    @Redfoxe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aaah, fuel for my Arachnophobia!

  • @javierpatag3609
    @javierpatag3609 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    *Starts video* Penumbra Spider, Penumbra Spider, Penumbra Spider. My favorite spider. It's the video image/thumbnail. Hope it makes it!

  • @teamstarpug
    @teamstarpug 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep up the good shit, dawg

  • @theguyfromacrosstheb
    @theguyfromacrosstheb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's a shame arachnogenesis didn't make this list

  • @OmneAurumNon
    @OmneAurumNon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd love to see a top 10 based on card price. For instance, it would be interesting to see the highest scoring cards that now go for under a dollar

  • @officialbusy
    @officialbusy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lolth spider queen is wifu

  • @blaze556922
    @blaze556922 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Arasta is by far the best spider ever printed.

  • @mattisjoey711
    @mattisjoey711 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Next Top Ten, TOP TENS!!

  • @anthonypeters3005
    @anthonypeters3005 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can we get a Top 10 Cards depicting World Champions?

    • @NizzahonMagic
      @NizzahonMagic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There aren't 10 of those. I think you mean Top 10 Invitational Cards -- and I've already done it: th-cam.com/video/0ECAP8eyMzg/w-d-xo.html

  • @nonameimpotantlive9233
    @nonameimpotantlive9233 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel wotc I has arachnophobia wich is why spiders doesn't get good cards :(

  • @crovax1375
    @crovax1375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm going all in and guessing Giant Trap Door Spider is #1 before watching!
    Edit: Dang😦

    • @jesuschrist9677
      @jesuschrist9677 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It does hate on flyers

    • @crovax1375
      @crovax1375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jesuschrist9677 actually no it doesn't...it can't interact with flyers on its own at all

  • @asta5907
    @asta5907 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Early guess? Penumbra spider will be high up

  • @Ryokamen
    @Ryokamen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Long live ishkanah, true queen of innistrad

  • @FishyFLCL
    @FishyFLCL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We need more spiders and better spiders

  • @magiccardmaster9921
    @magiccardmaster9921 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There were good spiders? most are ok or terrible

    • @NizzahonMagic
      @NizzahonMagic  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are still good spiders.

  • @trinidaitobago2
    @trinidaitobago2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Top 10 insects when?

    • @NizzahonMagic
      @NizzahonMagic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Four months ago: th-cam.com/video/H01WHTpLPtQ/w-d-xo.html

  • @jawazilla7199
    @jawazilla7199 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let's go spiders

  • @karlgrylls2406
    @karlgrylls2406 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i hope my silkslash spider is in this!
    edit: YEEEES!

  • @seaweedsoupmeowington9429
    @seaweedsoupmeowington9429 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    skeleton tribal when

  • @catgirllover5859
    @catgirllover5859 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spiders!

  • @alaraplatt8104
    @alaraplatt8104 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so many giant spiders. where are the little spiders in mtg

  • @gerudo4sale861
    @gerudo4sale861 ปีที่แล้ว

    112 comments nah 113

  • @raven1462
    @raven1462 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Shelob is better spider then all of these spiders

    • @NizzahonMagic
      @NizzahonMagic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She didn't exist when I made this video.
      But, she's also got 0 points.

    • @raven1462
      @raven1462 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok that makes sense, but Shelob is a great Commander for a spider commander deck that I've been working on for a year now. Buying separate cards of Amazon instead of picking up a Fat Pack from Walmart

    • @NizzahonMagic
      @NizzahonMagic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @raven1462 Shelob hasn't even been around for a year!
      I did write a deck Shelob deck tech for Card Kingdom a few months back.

    • @raven1462
      @raven1462 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NizzahonMagic please keep the content coming

  • @thesamuraiman
    @thesamuraiman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ew, spiders
    💜⚡