Nice tweaks, but the 'automatic' height reduction when coming to a stop shouldn't require a button press and should work both front and rear. The TFT needs to boot up much quicker, and the keyfob needs to talk to the ECU/ignition much more reliably. And where is the active cruise control deal breaker? The Tiger could be the best in class but still needs a few more tweaks to catch up the '24 GS and MTS V4S, then surpass them with longer service intervals and solid shaft drive, etc.
"Fitted with My Triumph connectivity which seamlessly enables phone call music operation and turn by turn navigation..." yeah thats a load of bollocks. Still using the rubbish software Triumph? Sure wish you'd learned from the 2022 blunder and ditched the My Triumph app and upped the bikes chipset - such a disappointment.
Mine works quite well now. There have been a few updates to the app. Sena 20s Evo and a Galaxy S20. Rock steady connection. Navigation has also improved. No lag and a different voice (like Google Assistant) that pronounces things correctly.
Triumph missed the opportunity to upgrade the SW for tft dashboard to redesign the layout to have more or customized info on basic screen, also turn-by-turn nav sucks with mytriumph app, phone screen share would be ideal. I would love to have improved low beam light as current is very weak 👎 They should solve the buffeting/turbulence on helmet at higher speeds. Anti-stall system should be improved (revs go up&down when slowing with engaged clutch). And most dangerous are those unexpected and random engine cut-offs when slowing down with engaged clutch. I expect the engine SW updates also for 22/23 models to eliminate this issue dear TRIUMPH!!!
If your bike is randomly stalling, take it to the dealer. Mine did that once and it was quickly fixed with a firmware update about a year ago. No issues with buffeting with my bike. I agree with you on the turn by turn navigation though. It's very basic. Only good for city navigation.
Come on Triumph. Black and white colour options in one model is just going backwards. You have the red but drop the white for a nice metallic blue or green.
Love these bikes, I have 2 Tiger 800's, just cant understand why anyone would want to take a bike that big off road.. how many are Triumph expecting to sell in comparison to the 900's?
Agree completely. I have a Big Cat and will go "off-pavement" but not full off-road. Neither the bike not I have the right specs for that. But I have found it VERY capable for the Touring/Sport-tour genre. Comfortable ergos, plenty of go-go, reasonable mpg, etc. (and they're not common, so you get some looks!) I don't need all the fancy/useless tech, however. ABS is a must, as are heated grips and cruise control for long portions on the slab but the rest is just fluff to me. If you need radar and/or having the bike manage all of your inputs, my suggestion would be to get better training and then practice! It's a SPORT, ffs! Not a hobby. Honor the craft.
is there any improvement in shaft feeling and working. because in the last version, there was a clunk feeling and sound when you throttle off-on, especially in city riding.
STILL waiting for a 1200RS engined SPRINT with a 120 degree crank & a chain drive ! Those T plane crank vibes are far too annoying for the road for us 1050 owners !!! Hurry up Triumph otherwise i'll have to buy a Ninja 1000SX or GSX S 1000GT ffs !
Is the engine still blasting/blowing so much heath on your legs in summer? I sold my 2022 model because of this. Impossible to ride the bike without burning your skin.
Guys I recently brought street triple RS and triumph is one of the worst brand I have experienced when it comes to service, they make great motorcycle but there's no parts available for replacement. I orderd some new parts in authorized service center it's been 2 months and there's no update at all.
@@Kevimoto No, the payment as already been made and its been 4 months they still haven't sent me some of the parts. They sent me half and another half is still in back order something like that. Its annoying to wait for such long time just to get the parts for the motorcycle
That impresife, we like to brand new 2024 tiger 1200 gt pro and tiger 900 gt Explorer, the long destiny adventure bike, and the hardcore off road adventure bike, the tiger 900 rally pro and tiger 900 rally explorer, the big daddy real james bond 007 action movie, it's really great
2 year warranty! come on Triumph even KTM are now offering 4 and why can't we have more road bias tyre wheel choice other than 150/18 rear 😐 and yes I have owned two in the past but wouldn't consider another unless they start to improve I just think it's being surpassed by the likes of BMW / Ducati / KTM ......
Seriously, truimph, you need to do a Bonneville retro tourer based on the scrambler with higher horspower and torque that would sell to lots of people, and you need to increase the HP of the Tiger 1200 to compete with the new BMW M1000XR and Ducati Multistrada V4RS
The engine is the big change. If you watched youtube reviews of the 2022 model, many complained about it stalling at low speeds, and the compression braking pulsing. So they changed the crankshaft weighting.
@@seauryakumar Personally, I’d have added reverse assist. It’s a beast to roll out of a garage and Triumph appeals to a demographic (ie myself) that could use a bit of assist . . .
these improvements should have already come as standard on the 2022 models, for this reason you are forced to always chase the competitors. In terms of electronics you are behind Honda, KTM, BMW and Ducati where it is possible to adjust on multiple levels. Handling may be improved compared to previous generations but the new tiger remains the slowest in tight mixed terrain. I had the tiger1200 rally pro and I resold it out of desperation, too many electrical and mechanical problems, terrible clutch and anti-stall, the engine is useless and not very usable because it is weak at low rpm and the torque arrives after 7000 rpm /min. Try all the competitors and you will realize how much the Tiger sucks, for me it is the worst in the segment.
Torque arrives after 7000rpm? You must be talking about another bike, cause 65lb-ft to the wheel @3000rpm feels just fine. That's more torque at low rpms than the Africa Twin and Multi V4
@@NicePantsLance Africa twin has 107 nm of torque but arrives at 5500 rpm, Ducati has 125 nm of torque which arrives at 8750 rpm. However, you forget that they are about 10-12 kg lighter than the tiger1200 and while doing the test rides I realized that they have better acceleration. The tiger1200 then, with the double bevel gear pair, loses power in terms of horsepower and torque, in fact the declared data is for the crankshaft, not the wheel. I now own a KTM 1290 SAS MY 2022 and I assure you that it is better than the Tiger1200 in every way, especially on mountain passes where low and medium revs are mostly used and the easy handling combined with the lower center of gravity of the petrol tank make it extremely fun and effective. , the tiger1200 is light years behind.
@@NicePantsLance I'll list all the defects of the 1200 rally pro: Engine weak at low revs and not very usable, anti-stall dangerous when driving, terrible clutch attack, engine shutting down when downshifting using the clutch, delay in throttle response, passenger seat too high compared to the rider which influences the dynamics driving, on-off effect too marked and annoying when driving in the city or with a passenger, noisy cardan during acceleration, delay in the TFT graphics with little information, navigation in the submenus too complicated due to lack of "shortcut" buttons, turn by turn navigation useless and unusable due to continuous disconnection of the phone from the application, lack of fork anti-dive, lack of front radar, no possibility of setting engine braking, anti-wheelie, ABS and traction control on multiple levels. The engine however was a total disappointment and combined with all the mechanical and electronic problems made me regret the purchase. I was passionate about the brand having also owned the 2 previous generations of tiger1200.
@ro1977 th-cam.com/video/dDoD7nRqGuU/w-d-xo.html The dyno tests suggest otherwise. Also the SAS, while a top motorcycle, has a whole 140cc bigger displacement.
I HAVE ΤΗΕ RALLY EXPLORER 2022.IT'S REALLY PERFECT MOTORCYCLE AND BETTER FROM BMW GS.THE ONLY PROBLEM FOR ME IS TOP SPEED WHICH IS (204).BUT I LOVE THIS MOTORCYCLE❤
Nice tweaks, but the 'automatic' height reduction when coming to a stop shouldn't require a button press and should work both front and rear. The TFT needs to boot up much quicker, and the keyfob needs to talk to the ECU/ignition much more reliably. And where is the active cruise control deal breaker? The Tiger could be the best in class but still needs a few more tweaks to catch up the '24 GS and MTS V4S, then surpass them with longer service intervals and solid shaft drive, etc.
Good god Marketing went over-board with the script flannel. Good looking bike though. Where's the Adaptive Cruise?
Agree great bike but these are very minor updates. I've got the 2023 900 GT Pro
"Fitted with My Triumph connectivity which seamlessly enables phone call music operation and turn by turn navigation..." yeah thats a load of bollocks. Still using the rubbish software Triumph? Sure wish you'd learned from the 2022 blunder and ditched the My Triumph app and upped the bikes chipset - such a disappointment.
Mine works quite well now. There have been a few updates to the app. Sena 20s Evo and a Galaxy S20. Rock steady connection. Navigation has also improved. No lag and a different voice (like Google Assistant) that pronounces things correctly.
Triumph missed the opportunity to upgrade the SW for tft dashboard to redesign the layout to have more or customized info on basic screen, also turn-by-turn nav sucks with mytriumph app, phone screen share would be ideal.
I would love to have improved low beam light as current is very weak 👎
They should solve the buffeting/turbulence on helmet at higher speeds.
Anti-stall system should be improved (revs go up&down when slowing with engaged clutch). And most dangerous are those unexpected and random engine cut-offs when slowing down with engaged clutch. I expect the engine SW updates also for 22/23 models to eliminate this issue dear TRIUMPH!!!
If your bike is randomly stalling, take it to the dealer. Mine did that once and it was quickly fixed with a firmware update about a year ago. No issues with buffeting with my bike. I agree with you on the turn by turn navigation though. It's very basic. Only good for city navigation.
Come on Triumph. Black and white colour options in one model is just going backwards. You have the red but drop the white for a nice metallic blue or green.
Why bother taking a tank off road same goes to all 1200+ adventure bikes, Triumph is better looking than most of the bunch IMO
Most owners don't.
Love these bikes, I have 2 Tiger 800's, just cant understand why anyone would want to take a bike that big off road.. how many are Triumph expecting to sell in comparison to the 900's?
Agree completely. I have a Big Cat and will go "off-pavement" but not full off-road. Neither the bike not I have the right specs for that.
But I have found it VERY capable for the Touring/Sport-tour genre. Comfortable ergos, plenty of go-go, reasonable mpg, etc. (and they're not common, so you get some looks!)
I don't need all the fancy/useless tech, however. ABS is a must, as are heated grips and cruise control for long portions on the slab but the rest is just fluff to me.
If you need radar and/or having the bike manage all of your inputs, my suggestion would be to get better training and then practice! It's a SPORT, ffs! Not a hobby. Honor the craft.
is there any improvement in shaft feeling and working. because in the last version, there was a clunk feeling and sound when you throttle off-on, especially in city riding.
You can definitely make it clunk, much like the GS does.
Done ✅
All i need is money now😊
Rest all things are cleared👍
STILL waiting for a 1200RS engined SPRINT with a 120 degree crank & a chain drive ! Those T plane crank vibes are far too annoying for the road for us 1050 owners !!! Hurry up Triumph otherwise i'll have to buy a Ninja 1000SX or GSX S 1000GT ffs !
Is the engine still blasting/blowing so much heath on your legs in summer? I sold my 2022 model because of this. Impossible to ride the bike without burning your skin.
Do these come with warranties? Does Triumph actually honor them? How many "known issues" do these bikes have?
How bad is the oil consumption?
1.) Yes. 3 year unlimited mileage.
2.) Yes.
3.) 1. Clutch bleed required on some bikes.
4.) No detectable oil consumption.
@@Kevimoto My Brand new 800XC didn't come with a warranty and it burned oil. LOTS of oil.
@@JayBee-cr8jm why would you buy a new motorcycle with no warranty?
@@Kevimoto Good question. Mine came with one but they refused to honor it. The bike was a pile of crap and it really needed a warranty.
Guys I recently brought street triple RS and triumph is one of the worst brand I have experienced when it comes to service, they make great motorcycle but there's no parts available for replacement. I orderd some new parts in authorized service center it's been 2 months and there's no update at all.
Sounds like more of a dealer problem. I don't have any of those issues.
@@Kevimoto No, the payment as already been made and its been 4 months they still haven't sent me some of the parts. They sent me half and another half is still in back order something like that. Its annoying to wait for such long time just to get the parts for the motorcycle
That impresife, we like to brand new 2024 tiger 1200 gt pro and tiger 900 gt Explorer, the long destiny adventure bike, and the hardcore off road adventure bike, the tiger 900 rally pro and tiger 900 rally explorer, the big daddy real james bond 007 action movie, it's really great
No tpms in a 21k bike is almost criminal.
Mine has TPMS. 🤷♂️
@@Kevimoto is yours an explorer? The GT pro does not have them standard
@@s9779 it is. Is TPMS not an option on the lower models?
I feel as though I should be outraged by this but I don‘t know what TPMS is.
@@woodywood3388 Tire Pressure Monitoring System. It's common on premium bikes now and has been common on passenger vehicles for at least a decade.
TRIUMPH SHOULD MAKE DCT VERSION ( LIKE HONDA AFRICA TWIN ) TRIUMPH IS 1 STEP BEHIND COMPETITION !! WAKE UP !!!
why always beautiful colours are on rally :) Both tiger 900 and 1200
Nice ❤
Really sad to see blue version removed :(
It didn't sell well. Matte khaki was the most popular colour up until the 2023 models.
Maybe they'll bring it back in a year or two when I'm ready to buy. :(
Or I'll just have to find a used 2022-23 model instead.
Why do Tiger models have speed breaker?
Bring Back the Blue
A Streak of Beautiful🔥♥️🐅🔥♥️🐅🔥♥️🐅🔥♥️🐅
So much electric shit to go wrong.
2 year warranty! come on Triumph even KTM are now offering 4 and why can't we have more road bias tyre wheel choice other than 150/18 rear 😐
and yes I have owned two in the past but wouldn't consider another unless they start to improve I just think it's being surpassed by the likes of BMW / Ducati / KTM ......
Mine has a 3 year warranty.
@@Kevimoto Yes, my mistake
👍 Very Nice 👍
Seriously, truimph, you need to do a Bonneville retro tourer based on the scrambler with higher horspower and torque that would sell to lots of people, and you need to increase the HP of the Tiger 1200 to compete with the new BMW M1000XR and Ducati Multistrada V4RS
All this tec. and still couldn’t add a reversing mode ……guys ever tried reversing a fully loaded tiger ……😢
Makes me wonder what can possibly go wrong with all that electronics during the long trip
$23k
😬🤭😬
Bring back the trophy, make it s1000xr style
Cooled seat feature would have been beneficial for long journey.
Triumph messed up with T-plane and sxcks. Inline tripple sounded much better and no vibrations.
Basically, same bike with a new seat.
Don’t forget the longer clutch lever lol
And the new colours
I guess you missed the details about counter balancing in the engine.
The engine is the big change. If you watched youtube reviews of the 2022 model, many complained about it stalling at low speeds, and the compression braking pulsing. So they changed the crankshaft weighting.
T plane engine is still annoying & hand numbingly vibey when compared to Triumph's own 1050 triples or even 1200 Speedie !
What's the rally pro wet kerb kilos?
If it wasn’t for Messi, Kane would look brilliant; the Tiger 1200 isn’t bad at all, it’s just not Messi . . .
They should've decreased the price by 10% so people will think twice before just opting for the GS.
@@seauryakumar Personally, I’d have added reverse assist. It’s a beast to roll out of a garage and Triumph appeals to a demographic (ie myself) that could use a bit of assist . . .
What country is it made in?
Thaïlande
EXPENSIVE MODELS ENGLAND🏴.SMALL MOTORBIKES THAILAND
Thank you, Triumph!. Please take my TT12 GT Pro '23 and refine it now. Thanks in advance and I am very grateful to you!
'still breathing...' 🎵
these improvements should have already come as standard on the 2022 models, for this reason you are forced to always chase the competitors. In terms of electronics you are behind Honda, KTM, BMW and Ducati where it is possible to adjust on multiple levels. Handling may be improved compared to previous generations but the new tiger remains the slowest in tight mixed terrain.
I had the tiger1200 rally pro and I resold it out of desperation, too many electrical and mechanical problems, terrible clutch and anti-stall, the engine is useless and not very usable because it is weak at low rpm and the torque arrives after 7000 rpm /min.
Try all the competitors and you will realize how much the Tiger sucks, for me it is the worst in the segment.
Torque arrives after 7000rpm? You must be talking about another bike, cause 65lb-ft to the wheel @3000rpm feels just fine. That's more torque at low rpms than the Africa Twin and Multi V4
@@NicePantsLance Africa twin has 107 nm of torque but arrives at 5500 rpm, Ducati has 125 nm of torque which arrives at 8750 rpm. However, you forget that they are about 10-12 kg lighter than the tiger1200 and while doing the test rides I realized that they have better acceleration. The tiger1200 then, with the double bevel gear pair, loses power in terms of horsepower and torque, in fact the declared data is for the crankshaft, not the wheel.
I now own a KTM 1290 SAS MY 2022 and I assure you that it is better than the Tiger1200 in every way, especially on mountain passes where low and medium revs are mostly used and the easy handling combined with the lower center of gravity of the petrol tank make it extremely fun and effective. , the tiger1200 is light years behind.
@@NicePantsLance I'll list all the defects of the 1200 rally pro:
Engine weak at low revs and not very usable, anti-stall dangerous when driving, terrible clutch attack, engine shutting down when downshifting using the clutch, delay in throttle response, passenger seat too high compared to the rider which influences the dynamics driving, on-off effect too marked and annoying when driving in the city or with a passenger, noisy cardan during acceleration, delay in the TFT graphics with little information, navigation in the submenus too complicated due to lack of "shortcut" buttons, turn by turn navigation useless and unusable due to continuous disconnection of the phone from the application, lack of fork anti-dive, lack of front radar, no possibility of setting engine braking, anti-wheelie, ABS and traction control on multiple levels.
The engine however was a total disappointment and combined with all the mechanical and electronic problems made me regret the purchase. I was passionate about the brand having also owned the 2 previous generations of tiger1200.
@ro1977 th-cam.com/video/dDoD7nRqGuU/w-d-xo.html The dyno tests suggest otherwise. Also the SAS, while a top motorcycle, has a whole 140cc bigger displacement.
@@georgetrillides3859 th-cam.com/video/szC_5W0Iya4/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
sempre bellissime!
😎✌️👊✊💨💨💨
Where's the street version?
You mean the Tiger 1200 Sport with 17 inch wheels and 120 degree crank shaft?
I HAVE ΤΗΕ RALLY EXPLORER 2022.IT'S REALLY PERFECT MOTORCYCLE AND BETTER FROM BMW GS.THE ONLY PROBLEM FOR ME IS TOP SPEED WHICH IS (204).BUT I LOVE THIS MOTORCYCLE❤
This bike need air conditioning and lane departure!)
What about a front radar?
Whatever it is ,it can't beat 1300 gs and 1250 gs
Ai già provato, io si viene che te lo dimostro
No adaptive cruise control?
Great looking bikes. But the sweet spot for me is 700-900cc.