Wow that is the first cracked board cartridge game I have ever owned. Good ole ebay. Thanks for all your help John. I am glad the board can at least be used to keep future projects alive.
Riggs propped a company that makes replacement cart PCBs... maybe he could talk really really really nice to them and they will make a replacement pub for your N64 game.
For anyone who would really really like to fix this game, the easiest way would be to swap out the ROM chip. I now shall put a list of the 11 games that can be used as donors for this game, although the first 4 would make more sense to use as a donor: 1080 snowboarding MLB ken griffey jr. Wcw/nwo revenge Wwf: wrestlemania 2000 (The rest are too expensive to use as a donor for a cheaper game, but do as you please) Harvest moon Ocarina of time Mario golf The new tetris Ogre battle Resident evil 2 Super smash bros. And of course F-zero, but im sure you guys can figure that one out. Hope this helped someone out there! Thanks john.
Damn...I couldn't see it and thought maybe it was the cap. It looked a little misshapen. Once the board is cracked the only thing you can do is transfer the ROM to another broken cart and hope it works.
Enjoyed the video, BTW. I would start changing out the Electrolytic capacitors. Ideal conditions lifespan is about 15 years, if not changed they can leak acidic fluids which will corrode the traces and short out stuff. Pay attention to the polarity as listed on the capacitor. The capacitor is probably 15 cents using a name brand like nichicon, rubycon, cornell dubilier, panasonic, united chemicon, Nippon Chemi-Con. Avoid ebay get them from mouser, digikey, and or Jameco. Might as well replace the batteries as well they are dying don't forget to apply a voltage before d/cing the battery so you don't have memory loss. Along with what Mark said below you can always etch a new pcb you don't need fancy stuff like laser printers, just use a perm. marker and etchant. very simple but as you said beyond economic viability can be an issue unless your learning something from it then it's priceless experience. When you throw your hands up and bin it you learn nothing from it. Also from an earlier video there is a datecode on those chips which give you an idea when it was made usually week/year so 5284 52nd week 1984. Even NES company branded chips should have a datecode.
I would put a fine metal plate or similar, glued with epoxy on the solder side across The Whole pcb to give support to the cracked part and wire every gold finger to the corresponding component on the pcb, using another f-zero x cart as reference, , might work xD . Or look out for a cheap game that uses the same pcb. F-zero X is one of my favorite games on the system
Not over the masking paint of the pcb. Although between the metal plate and the pcb will be a layer of epoxy so it won't make a short, a sturdy piece of plastic also can do the job
Hey Riggs. Would the F-Zero X parts work on a Wrestlemania 2000 board by chance? Also, do you still need Wrestlemania 2000 for your "one of every wrestling game" collection? I love F-Zero and this got my wheels turning because i have an N64 coming to me.
thats so weird , i bought an fzero x off eBay a month or 2 ago and it has a crack on the board just like that and i ended out just buying another one, but i did get my money back for the first
he does swap out pieces if he knows what to do or what's wrong. He won't risk messing with it if he doesn't know what is wrong as he may make it non-repairable. In this case, the board was cracked, and you'd have to replace the entire board to fix it.
but if it is broken what is wrong with trying something new, i have never seen him buzz out the traces or any other fault finding except a quick visual inspection.
that is fair enough, i m not having a dig at him for not being able to fix some games, i just think it should be renamed to something that describes what he actually does, like 1-UP card cartridge cleaning!! open cart surgery is a very cool name, but it is a bit misleading. anyway, Riggs if you are reading this, i actually love your vids and the ones you have done with metal jesus, i have had many an hour playing hidden gems that you have suggested.
while i agree to an extent that he mostly doesn't fix games (about one in three) this reflects the *reality* of cart repair.. in this case there are maybe like three things he could have done to repair this, and the only long term repair would require hacking out the entire cart connector and Frankensteining a good one in, re-connecting every trace, and then using glue and something else to reinforce the connection... so yeah, that's not hard or anything.
Wow that's terrible, I bet the person who was selling the game is a scammer for money. People work hard for their money and people just don't seemed to care. Good thing is he did get his money back.
Wow that is the first cracked board cartridge game I have ever owned. Good ole ebay. Thanks for all your help John. I am glad the board can at least be used to keep future projects alive.
Riggs propped a company that makes replacement cart PCBs... maybe he could talk really really really nice to them and they will make a replacement pub for your N64 game.
**plays TAPS for another fallen cartridge** That seriously hurt, seeing such a fantastic game meeting such a terrible fate.
You got to start this over with," You got Riggs Here.
For anyone who would really really like to fix this game, the easiest way would be to swap out the ROM chip. I now shall put a list of the 11 games that can be used as donors for this game, although the first 4 would make more sense to use as a donor:
1080 snowboarding
MLB ken griffey jr.
Wcw/nwo revenge
Wwf: wrestlemania 2000
(The rest are too expensive to use as a donor for a cheaper game, but do as you please)
Harvest moon
Ocarina of time
Mario golf
The new tetris
Ogre battle
Resident evil 2
Super smash bros.
And of course F-zero, but im sure you guys can figure that one out.
Hope this helped someone out there!
Thanks john.
Damn...I couldn't see it and thought maybe it was the cap. It looked a little misshapen. Once the board is cracked the only thing you can do is transfer the ROM to another broken cart and hope it works.
I would love to see a board swap on a N64 game.
Now I have fixed much worse on arcade boards and crt boards. It can be saved.
super glue the board back together connect any broken connections and reflash the pins that broke it's doable I did it on a copy of Harvest Moon 64.
It might be a common game, but it's still a GOOD game. What board does it need, isn't there a crappy game that can be sacrificed?
That's unfortunate 😕 What is the background music playing throughout this video?
have you ever tried putting a repro board in a genuine case? im just curious as i know repro cases can be a tight fit.
Enjoyed the video, BTW. I would start changing out the Electrolytic capacitors. Ideal conditions lifespan is about 15 years, if not changed they can leak acidic fluids which will corrode the traces and short out stuff. Pay attention to the polarity as listed on the capacitor. The capacitor is probably 15 cents using a name brand like nichicon, rubycon, cornell dubilier, panasonic, united chemicon, Nippon Chemi-Con. Avoid ebay get them from mouser, digikey, and or Jameco.
Might as well replace the batteries as well they are dying don't forget to apply a voltage before d/cing the battery so you don't have memory loss.
Along with what Mark said below you can always etch a new pcb you don't need fancy stuff like laser printers, just use a perm. marker and etchant. very simple but as you said beyond economic viability can be an issue unless your learning something from it then it's priceless experience.
When you throw your hands up and bin it you learn nothing from it. Also from an earlier video there is a datecode on those chips which give you an idea when it was made usually week/year so 5284 52nd week 1984. Even NES company branded chips should have a datecode.
you might be able to break it off crazy glue it then jumper all the traces lol
I would put a fine metal plate or similar, glued with epoxy on the solder side across The Whole pcb to give support to the cracked part and wire every gold finger to the corresponding component on the pcb, using another f-zero x cart as reference, , might work xD . Or look out for a cheap game that uses the same pcb. F-zero X is one of my favorite games on the system
the metal plate would bridge the connections
Not over the masking paint of the pcb. Although between the metal plate and the pcb will be a layer of epoxy so it won't make a short, a sturdy piece of plastic also can do the job
sturdy piece of plastic i'd agree
my cousin used to slam the carts in. i always yelled at him for it cause i knew this could happen.
What music is playing in the background?
Hey Riggs. Would the F-Zero X parts work on a Wrestlemania 2000 board by chance? Also, do you still need Wrestlemania 2000 for your "one of every wrestling game" collection? I love F-Zero and this got my wheels turning because i have an N64 coming to me.
I'm not sure. I'd rather keep Wrestlemania alive than kill it for F-Zero X :) I do have one, though. Thanks!
OK. Thanks man. Have a good one. I'm off to Gamestop. They're closing the "local" one so hopefully they're clearing stock. Wish me luck.
thats so weird , i bought an fzero x off eBay a month or 2 ago and it has a crack on the board just like that and i ended out just buying another one, but i did get my money back for the first
somebody must have purchased a lot of broken f-zero carts and are flipping them on ebay.
Doesn't bring up Dean Ambrose but brings up Roman?
Daaaaamn someone must really hate Moxley
brasso it and solder/rewire traces then hot glue it together. Or get a part time job and buy another copy.
when this series first started, i thought you would show how to repair games. but all you ever do is clean them, and if that doesn't work you give up.
he does swap out pieces if he knows what to do or what's wrong. He won't risk messing with it if he doesn't know what is wrong as he may make it non-repairable. In this case, the board was cracked, and you'd have to replace the entire board to fix it.
but if it is broken what is wrong with trying something new, i have never seen him buzz out the traces or any other fault finding except a quick visual inspection.
He has said before he knows how to solder and he knows what to look for due to previous experiences, but he isn't by any means a technician.
that is fair enough, i m not having a dig at him for not being able to fix some games, i just think it should be renamed to something that describes what he actually does, like 1-UP card cartridge cleaning!! open cart surgery is a very cool name, but it is a bit misleading. anyway, Riggs if you are reading this, i actually love your vids and the ones you have done with metal jesus, i have had many an hour playing hidden gems that you have suggested.
while i agree to an extent that he mostly doesn't fix games (about one in three) this reflects the *reality* of cart repair.. in this case there are maybe like three things he could have done to repair this, and the only long term repair would require hacking out the entire cart connector and Frankensteining a good one in, re-connecting every trace, and then using glue and something else to reinforce the connection...
so yeah, that's not hard or anything.
BEARD!!!!
I Have That Game For The 64
You could use a donor board to fix this game, maybe a wild Super Smash Bros cartridge would appear near you :)
Wow that's terrible, I bet the person who was selling the game is a scammer for money. People work hard for their money and people just don't seemed to care. Good thing is he did get his money back.
why not just do a board swap
that sucks thank God is wasn't something like a conker or something good video
i like your toshiba tv
Nasty!
Save the roms at least
Looks like he bought it from GameStop. Worst video game store in history.
I actually got it from ebay but still not arguing with your statement.
People can also be a pain on there sometimes. That's for sure.
what the heck was the point of this video??????????? and just so you know that board can be easily fixed. I've done so many times before...
How can this kind of cracks on board can be fixed? I have one cart with the board cracked.
remove the solder mask along the cracked line where the traces are and solder those points
And should I use glue to glue the cracked board?
yes, you can AFTER the solder repair. use some sort of PCB safe epoxy
Thank you Mark! You were very helpful!
Regards!