Dawn Brancheau Death - Lyndsey Schemm Tells Full Story
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- ROACH SHOW - Dawn Brancheau death. Lyndsey Schemm tells the full story. Former SeaWorld Trainer Lyndsey Schemm talks about the death of Dawn Brancheau who was killed by a whale 10 years ago.
Lyndsey and Dawn were best friends and worked at the theme park together. Show #0100
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Many people have described Dawn as their "best friend". It takes a special kind of person to be that for others. By all accounts she was a source of joy in so many people's lives. Although I don't believe these animals should be in captivity, the trainers don't have a say in that. They are there to take care of the animals as best as they can and I'm at least happy to hear that the trainers are so passionate about giving them the best lives possible despite the circumstances. I hope Dawn's passion and work ethic has inspired other trainers to do the best they can for the remaining whales.
First of all I loved hearing her speak about Dawn. Their friendship seemed really special and it's such an honour for Dawn's friend to speak about her so highly and poetically but we all know that NO GOOD comes from killer whales being contained at Sea World. How many people have to lose their life to prove this?! Also, you can't compare owning a cat or a dog to whales being held captive. That's a nonsensical argument that shouldn't have even been brought up. The Blackfish documentary is one of my favourites and I've watched it many times. It does a fantastic job at explaining why the isolation and frustration of these whales being contained and forcefully separated from their mother's and children causes them to experience intense grief. She admitted herself just how intelligent and social they are. At the end of the day if these majestic animals were so happy and content in captivity then people like Dawn would still be alive. The whale's life expectancy would also match the ones living in their natural habitat and they wouldn't self harm or suffer from depression. Watch the documentary as it explains everything so eloquently. It even has previous trainers from Sea World explain how they're duped and brainwashed to believe that they're actually helping and the whales are there for their own good. It's all lies and I hope this lady realises this one day and no more humans are mutilated and killed. I mean, surely she doesnt want more trainers to die?? Tilikum alone killed three in his lifetime. After all, not one single human death has ever been caused by a whale living in the ocean. That's the only proof we need that the environment is not good for them. It destroys them in the end.
Also; The whales don't breed naturally in these facilities which she said means they're happy. They're frequently artificially inseminated which is how come Tilikum was able to father hundreds of children before he died and this was their concern because he always showed threatening tendencies and they worried his predatory responses could be genetically passed on.
Recently watched Black Fish and am struggling to even listen to this ignorant woman trying to rationalise the reasoning behind keeping these creatures in captivity. I don't care how much good you think you are doing with them or how much you want to try to convince others that your job is in their best interest, it isn't, period. These creatures do not belong in captivity, they are in captivity due to human greed and ignorance. You will never be able to justify removing a calf from its screaming mother no matter how hard you try and if you think you can then you are disgraceful, immoral, and lacking any common sense or emotion. To justify this behaviour by commenting that the animals are merely living a different life in captivity as opposed to a worse life is possibly one of the most uneducated comments I have ever heard. Just ask a human who has been incarcerated if they appreciate being locked up for 23 hours a day, they have food, shelter, and books to read to enrich their minds so they should be grateful and blissfully happy. This woman and anybody else who condones these magnificent creatures, or any other animal for that matter being treated in this way should be embarrassed and ashamed. They are not caring people with a goal to protect and love these animals, they are destroying them. We as human beings do not have the innate right to take and control everything we see. Just leave them alone, in the wild, where despite what this uneducated, opinionated woman is trying to convince others, is where they belong, and where they want to be.
Yeah, one second she claims SW is learning day by day how to care for whales, next second they're the experts. She twists things to her convenience🤢
Thats great nonsense:
"Just ask a human who has been incarcerated if they appreciate being locked up for 23 hours a day"
This creatures are not made in the image of God - only humans are, so killer wales as all other animals are not feel ashamed and dont care if we are looking "all times" after them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Animals have freedom of action, man only has free will, and therefore only man is ashamed of his (bad) actions (sins) and when he always is observed...
Animals dont have "such problems"....
@@Y-Z-G She is paid off, for good kind words.
I agree . The beginning of this video I was open to hear what she had to say. However , she sounds so ignorant. She says , killer whales ate the top of the food chain in the ocean and that they are extremely intelligent. Then later she is standing up for sea world and saying that killer whales and other animals in captivity live happy lives and well taken for. No wild animal should be kept in captivity unless it’s at a wild Sanctuary where the animals are unable to be out in the wild for medical reasons. Tilly was stolen from his family in the wild and then Auctioned off for profit. It’s disgusting to watch her go on and on about defending such a horrendous company. She obviously doesn’t want to admit what she did and what she continues to support is wrong. Someone should threw her in jail for 3/4 of her life and see how she likes it .
Dawn paid the ultimate price thinking it too was ok to train and swim with Killer Whales, for public entertainment.
I'm sure they would've preferred to be home with their dang family.
Can you imagine being taken from your mother, family and home to be put in a tiny pen.
Excuse me, my dog isn't in a tiny pen and has a choice if she wants to go outside and she has alot of room, she can turn around easily. She can eat fresh food, not what what u guys feed them.
Aren't u guys doing this for money though?.
U guys will NEVER GET IT. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY, RIGHT ?????
Stop going to these parks, plse ppl.
She seems very passionate about her job and her friend, but it's really disgusting to hear them rationalizing keeping whales in swimming pools.
What do we call it when we keep a human in a confined space not that much bigger than their body? Prison.
I'd like all these SeaWorld people to go live 30 years in prison and see if they like it.
Well said Linsey!!! Makes my blood boil, so when a trainer gets killed/seriously injured, I'm amazed people are shocked. What do they expect????? Caused by greed, it's disgusting.
@@serenityflies1462 Yes I agree. Unbelievable these people
Dey Need Too & Get Attack/Killed by 1 so dey can See how it feel
Well said
Some of the whales actually kill themselves by ramming their head in to the walls repeatedly, until they die. They shouldn't be kept in the pools for that fact alone. There's tons of other issues that happened to the whales that are kept like that, and she didn't mention it at all. There's some other ex-trainers that started speaking out against SeaWorld, you should watch some of their interviews.
Some accounts said that Tilly didn't want to give Dawn's body up before he was so attached to her and he had no toys to play with. It's a morbid thought, but he saw her as a toy at that point. It's horrible.
"Enrich, stimulate the animals and improve their lives". Yeah, that's what the ocean is for.
yeah for wild animals not captive bred animals bud
@@lauren3266 they shouldn't have been bred in captivity to begin with "bud"
😄 RITE
@@lauren3266 y
I totally agree...their poor dorsal collapse and their skin was getting sun damage...but I will say I'm sure this womans and the man who had previously DID work hard, did care about the animals, and did really try to give the best life....I dont agree with everything they're saying but I think we need to look above...these people are ta the bottom doing the dirty work probly not making much money from it...the ones at the tops making millions are to blame...they cud have expanded the pools and provided better lives...but they chose to pocket the money or add rides...I see what the trainers feel..but they have to take in account that the people way above the CEOS etc...should have stepped it up because those pools look pitiful for a killer whale.
“The grief can’t overcome the love.” That is one of the most profound things I’ve heard and effected me deeply. As anyone who loves animals, and has struggled with their loss this is one of the most poignant things I’ve heard and helped me.
The same goes for the close family members that have passed. ❤
Terrible that she defends SeaWorld and basically it's best to have animals in captive, so their lives are easier, that's what she is saying. No animals should be kept in captivity. Sanctuarys for wounded animals that are unable to be released is different.
She is totally covering for Sea World! She says she’d love for it to go back to the way it was..so she must be okay with taking these animals from the ocean because how else will this continue besides breeding them in captivity?
up to 7-10 generations are still wild even if born in captivity... these orca may retain this regardless, as they cant actually be isolated from their wild friends... they can hear and communicte with wild orca, whales and dolphins.
They don’t breed naturally.. they are artificially bred .
This woman hasn't learned a damn thing over the tragedy of her best friend. YOU do NOT care about animals, If you did you would know how horrible Tilikum, or any whale's life was. They lived in a small pool as opposed to an enormous ocean. Whales stay with their mothers their whole lives; you took him when he was just two. Noone, SeaWorld, you or Dawn thought about the happiness of the Whales. Separating them from their family, their home and leaving them day after day to work and make SeaWorld look good, and those trainers, but not caring what would make these beautiful creatures happy. You annoy the shit out of me, The interviewer is so clueless, with no opinions of his own until their guest has an opinion first. Lady, really learn about Whales, go read, learn, study......Then you would know how cruel the treatment of these animals was. Shame on all of you. R.I.P Tilly.
I wonder how much seaworld paid her for this bs
Seaworld paid nothing for her so-called” BS”. She worked with Dawn and is telling her story. That is it.
Her saying that she’s there to enrich their lives ?!? Well gee Thanks but that’s NOT a job that should be done!!! They are wild animals !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Treat them as such and leave them in the sea !
But there are a lot of wild animals kept in captivity. Are you angry about horse owners? People that keep horses in stables? What about goat farmers, llamas, and other animals we keep in captivity? Are you angry about that as well?
@@randyrauch Any animal that is suffering because it’s being imprisoned by humans is a problem.
im so glad someone else said that.. its like she think she deserves a gold star for it.. !!
That’s not her fault. If they’re gonna be there, why not help make it better?
That incident was an appropriate catalyst to end that particular industry.
These whales are committing suicide and killing each other at these parks and he said he can’t ignore the good sea world is doing!!! Is he serious?!?
They're dumb
Brainwashed
No whale has committed suicide.
That part pissed me off
I have to agree. Although SeaWorld does do some good conservation work in the oceans, what they're doing with the whales is just wrong and sad.
I mean, she keeps calling it an accident...but it wasn’t an accident, it was an attack.
It was self-defence. That whale was abused every second of every day.
Basically, Tilly got to see all the other whales get to play....and he couldn't figure out why he was an outcast. It's so sad, all around.
It is sad, in some case its just like a child when they're showed favoritism and their sibling see it and feel it they become upset and sometimes aggressive. Also in the wild they probably eat more and she know she wrong sitting on this show lying knowing damn well it's wrong for them to be in a small pool. She can't possibly think that's ok just because you have a bond with a whale. She should be atleast encouraging them to create a bigger space for the Whales as much money they made off of them. The only worried about that billon dollar company and what amuse the people just sad.
I'll be happy to spend my money at SeaWorld next month.
Tilly had a really traumatic life since the moment he was captured…he had to watch members of his family be die in a net and then have big rocks tied to their tails and then sunk…he was bullied at the first park he was at and place in a metal steel box with the same two whales that bullied him…the box was also used as discipline when behaviors wasn’t done right and if he was placed in it he wouldn’t be feed..he killed his first trainer there and then was sent to sea world. By the time he got to sea world he was already angry and then the things he had to go thur at sea world🥺🥺R.I.P
@@Living_EDventures The world is full of people like you, take solace in your thoughts. ( I'm not one of them. by the way.)
If she loved animals she wouldn't support stealing intelligent animals from their families 💔
That’s not true. The Dolphins are already there. Yes. Killer whales are dolphins. They’re just there helping them. They love those animals.
Anytime you swim with a Orca there’s a chance it could go sideways and humans are helpless if a Orca decides its had enough of your shit
Just like driving a car, you could die in an accident any day.
Expecially if they are confined to a tank! Orcas get bored in captivity they swim 100 miles a day in the wild
@1:47 She says she's always loved animals but she felt okay with getting paid for having them caged in a pool instead of them being in their natural wild environment.
Amazing how delusional these trainers are convincing themselves they are doing good when in reality it’s completely EVIL
It’s sick
KEEP WHALES IN THE BLOODY SEA NOT IN SMALL TANKS - HAVE YOU ANY IDEA HOW FAR THEY SWIM A DAY AND YOU COOP THEM UP AS PRISONERS!!! If you think what the lock down from covid feels like, imagine this for the rest of your life (not been able to come out of your room!!!)
Imagine that for people and jail or prison. You probably could care less about that though right?
I wonder if they think it's like for the whales having to swim only so many feet or in a circle all day. I think that the whale had just had enough !
@@Living_EDventures
Yeah, I could care less .
I would rather be slaughtered as a whale than live in a fish tank for 36 years or or until I died
This 2 statements make my stomach turn. I can't even watch this anymore. Humans are so arrogant and her statement is such a double standard because if she really believed the things that she was saying then she wouldn't have been "forcing" her training mechanisms on them because a pool is not natural to killer whales and what's important to them is not swimming around in a pool @16:58 You want to go with what is natural to them and @17:05 by paying attention to what's important to them
I think that these trainers are truly wonderful ppl and no doubt these amazing creatures have changed their lives, but I do agree that these types of places are better if they are shut down once the last generation of whales pass away, they should stop breeding the whales (which often is done through artificial insemination).
She’s right when she says the animals can’t be released into the wild, they won’t survive but they are put in a situation where they are living partial lives. Yea they get fed and there are no predators or dangers to them physically, but they deff are not living their lives to the fullest. They are built to survive in the wild, they’re not in need of rescue or anything, they’re not endangered they thrive in their natural habitat. They can’t be compared to pets that require far less space and share the same living environments as we do. Dogs and cats etc. can thrive in our environment, whales can’t thrive in our environment. That being said I also don’t agree with exotic pets of any kind.
But either way I enjoyed this interview, I think you are both caring ppl who care for humans and animals alike, but I think there’s always room to demand a better life for these creatures we love so much :) RIP Dawn she sounds like a wonderful human being
Great thoughts and comments.
Well said
Could not have said it better. 100 percent agree.
But they aren’t trying to place them in the wild in that way…they want them to be place in sea pens that would be located in the ocean..It would be more space they would have fish swimming in for them and they would live the rest of their lives in the ocean and they would have the honor of dying like a orca is suppose to not being thrown in a dump or harvested like they are nothing
But the difference between the boorish boss and the animal is that the boss chose to be there. Confining orcas in a tank is like confining a human in a bathtub. What a PR snow job. Dawn sounds like a truly amazing person, but I think her "person" here is dishonoring her memory by covering over the truth about SeaWorld and display shows like it. th-cam.com/video/cy0VPVynB3Q/w-d-xo.html
I'm sorry but I think the whale had just had enough ! I wonder what they think about the whales only being able to swim so many feet and swim around in a circle 24/7. It's so sad what happened to Dawn cause you could tell she loved her job and really loved the whales. It is also sad about Ken Peters and the two other trainers that died. The whales are meant to be in the ocean where God intended them to be.
It's so clear. You're right.
I don't care how you try to put it,
These whales Swim freely in the ocean 100s of miles and they hunt and eat live fish, seals etc.
They live 3 times longer ! Their fins bend because of the lack of exercise to swim ! When they brought
The whale at two he screamed and his mother was killed right in front of him ! You can't tell me that that is what is best for these animals!
Why not put humans in their tubs and make them do tricks!
These whales suffered from sunburn
To the point they had to cover .
Tilikum was scrapped and
Bloodied by the females and at night he was put in a dark tank so small he could barely turn ! Other whales were not given food if another whale
Did not complete the trick !
Each whale comes from a different
Pod snd each pod has a different
Language ! This man tried explaining how smart they were and he said , this attack was premeditated! This cage drove him insane . Shame on you for
Endorsing this institution!
You may be distrustful look at the records for that day and the confusion in calling 911 .
I'm sorry for Dawn and her family
But that whale was stolen and
Forced to completely change his way of life !
They shluld have had a tranquilizer gun for just that reason ,because once you were in the water with Tilly he was not going to let you out !
This interview is sickening and I have to give both credit. The host for bringing someone from SW to talk and for her speaking the truth. What she doesn’t realize is she speaks the truth but doesn’t realize the words that are coming out of her mouth are not ok. She is rationalizing what she has been apart of. I’d respect her if she would have reflected on what she used to believe but that she has grown and understands that the wrongs to the orcas need to be rectified. Period.
I think it's just deplorable that people used her accident for there agenda she died doing what she loved and will be missed by many .
Absolutely! These same people whining probably own pets that had parents as well. Nothing worse than hypocrits.
@@Living_EDventures Are you seriously comparing a killer whale to a domesticated pet? That's like saying you deserve as much jail time for stealing a candy bar as you would if you robbed a bank. You should really learn about nuance and incorporate some critical thinking into your point of view on this subject.
None of the trainers that spoke out used her "accident" to further their agenda. They were trying to make changes so no one else gets killed and for the whales to be better off. There's a difference between the two.
@@antthomas7916 That's my opinion. If you don't like it tough. Who the fu*k are you?
@@antthomas7916 Actually people get different sentences for the same crime all the time. I know people who got more of a sentence for a lesser crime on more than one occation. You also can see the same with a little research.
I find it interesting that she doesn't even mention the way the whales are penned in at night...in the dark in a tiny tiny pool.She lost my respect after all .
because they aren’t lol
@@Orcinois actually they are you dumb bitch
Because they aren’t. You’re talking about the “module” you saw in Blackfish that existed at one park in B.C decades ago. A park not affiliated with SeaWorld at all.
What was sealand not seaworld
Have u been to SeaWorld at night? They are in a pen aka tank.
Awful analogies with cats or dogs, who are domestic animals for crying out loud!
What buying kidnappeed whales and leaving these smart beautiful creatures to pine away bored and one, putting chemicals in the water, making them sick,they are imprisoned.
Just an accident? A fender-bender is just a accident. That poor woman was brutally killed.
no animals should be kept in captivity
When you swim with nature’s apex predator sometimes things don’t go as planned it is a wild Animal and therefore unpredictable and dangerous to Interact with them it’s a assumed risk
Shut down these places!! Free the orca ,at least let the ones there live until no more. Then shutter down!! And yes I think this so called interview was disappointing sounds to me these trainers turned there heads the other way ,the trainers know the horrible truth in this. They were yes people and received paychecks! You might be a young person getting in to this type work because you don't know any better... but several years you know what's going on!! #lovethewhales #shutthemdown
Lyndsey nailed it. This was a devastating event. It destroyed so many lives, human and whale.
The way the world is going, Seaworld and zoos will be the only place to have exotic or rare animals for people to be able to see them in person. No, not as big as the ocean, but the majority of the whales were born at Seaworld. The trainers love these animals and devote everything to care and perform with them. Accidents can happen anywhere at anytime. It wasn’t Dawn’s fault. It wasn’t Tilly’s fault. It wasn’t Seaworld’s fault. It was a tragic, heartbreaking accident. Dawn loved those whales like they were her own kids. She would be heartbroken to see the trainers get pulled away from the whales. How confused they must have been when their human friends stopped playing with them in the pool. The rise in whale deaths increased shortly after that.
I agree with everything you said.
Why do you think humans are entitled to see certain animals in person? Why is extreme animal torture something you’re alright with? Any whales born at sea world were born into an awful life. People like you, enablers, are to blame. What the fuck is a slave going to do with the “love and dedication” of their torturer?
It was seaworlds fat 100%
Ofc it was SW’s fault lol 😂
Dat was Not an accident da Way He Killed Her, Dat Was Intentional. She's just Coverin Up for Sea World
He asked where she was when this accident occured. Why did she go on about being a new mom. That is legitimately completely irrelevant and did not answer the very direct question he asked.
"Where were you when this accident occured?"
"Funny story, so I started a new hobby and I was on a weight loss journey, I also enjoyed some bowling and lounging"
I mean what????
And then she goes into the last thing she said to her?
It was a VERY direct question. WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THE INCIDENT HAPPENED. ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PARK???? PLAYING WITH THE SEALS??
WHAT?!
how do work with killer whales that you can't get in the water with..
Humans might have a tough time to let go. But they have no any excuse to harm and let other species go for their moneymakingl and personal purse. What a cheap interview that has been. Shame on both of you
well, the first half was interesting, but in the second half, the cognitive dissonance is so deafening it frankly hurts to listen to. the argument is obviously a lot deeper than “but they live in a tank” vs. “well but the documentary has an agenda”, and to be honest both these people should know that. alas, a bit of a wasted opportunity at a nuanced conversation. maybe orcas really are smarter than humans after all.
A very interesting (and likeable) woman. I can tell she cares about the orcas. But she is getting very defensive when talking about orcas in captivity and I believe this is because she knows this is cruel and selfish. Nobody gains anything of value from seeing an orca in a pool - I’ve never seen an orca in person and don’t need to, I can watch them online or on TV in 4K in their natural environment.
the comparison to domesticated animals like pets is so foolish and obviously inaccurate it’s almost hard to believe they would even try making it. a poodle cannot hunt and obtain food in the wild like a wolf would, because of centuries of domestication and artificial breeding practices. orcas are wild animals that only began to be captured 60 years ago. training does not equal domestication. how on earth can these people possibly be so thick?
Oh really. You’re telling me dogs, cats and horses that are held in captivity around the world are domesticated? So that’s why it’s OK to keep them?
Wild horses are captured every single day and then taken to someone’s home and held in a stable. So they can ride on top of them, have them do work on the farm and even compete with them in competitions. So they can profit off them.
The point of this conversation is to understand that many millions of animals are held against their will and should be out in the wild. So if you’re going to get mad about orcas in captivity, you have to get the same anger towards horses in captivity. That’s the point.
@@randyrauch yes...dogs and cats and horses are domesticated. that is totally uncontroversial. whether or not wild horses are captured and made to work is orthogonal to this conversation. maybe i would come to the same conclusion about those horses as orcas, but that is not the topic here. the truth is there are many serious issues to be raised about many animals that humans keep, but it varies from animal to animal and is beyond the scope of this conversation. the comparison in the interview was between orcas and house pets.
i’m not “mad” about captive orcas, i am saying it’s very dishonest to compare domesticated dogs to orcas because the history of their relationship to humans is wildly different, and many varieties of domesticated dogs have been bred in such a way that they are unsuitable for life in the wild, which is not the case with orcas. it’s very simple.
this happens with animals in cruel captivity sorry feel only sadness for the animals, CLOSE THE DOORS SEAWORLD
I think that may be a bit extreme on your part. Dogs kill 25,000 people each year from dog bites. Should we close down peoples homes after that? Just saying
@@randyrauch this animals are in captivity for entertainment people, it,s a shame visit this cruel shows you pay for animal suffering, this is animal abuse and DISCUSTING.
@@randyrauch dogs are domesticated pets! Not wild animals that are apex predators and swim 100 miles a day in the wild! Your comparison is weak
You are my inspiration Lyndsey! So proud of you for setting the record straight and being so brave to share your story here and with me when I met you. You’re the best❤️
How can you live your life being such an immoral, awful and abusive person?
There’s no denying that fin is always hanging low….. REAL LOW! Humans can’t make killer whales happy. Regardless how much schooling, play time sessions you do. Killer whales are meant to be in the ocean and FREE! NOT being forced to do shows at Sea World for people who will never get to see such beautiful and amazing animals in their own environment! It’s simple, if you want to see killer whales you go to their environment! And if you can’t, sorry! That doesn’t mean lock them up like a prisoner for your own selfish wants and needs. How sad! Poor whales. Those fins aren’t supposed to be laying down! If u look at the whales in the ocean their fins are standing tall and beautiful! This whales fin was nowhere near standing! Horrible! Being in the wild is where they belong. OFCOURSE it’s dangerous but being locked up like a prisoner in a small tank being forced to do shows is more dangerous and more damaging than anything! This is ridiculous.
These Orcas live in a small Prison they need to be FREE in the Ocean with there mother who they stay with for life and family no more captivity for these Orcas leave them alone 💔 RIP Tilikum ur FREE now 🙏 no more prison
No one can tell me whales are healthy living in a small swimming pool. I dont care what nobody say.
About like a person living in a jail cell or prison cell. Nobody cares about that though. They pick and choose what to care about.
@@Living_EDventures the orcas are innocent though
You can't compare a dog that is a domesticated animal! 🤦 Not a apex predator that swims 100 miles a day FFS stupid comparison 🤦
If any of these trainers really loved the animals and wanted to enrich their lives, they would have done that, not set up a water circus for them to perform. As for them saying the wild is hard for the animals……how many times did she stress they are apex predators for a reason?
Drowning?! He rammed her with bis nose, ripped her skin of the scalp, ripped her arm off. He was attacking like they do in the wild. Which is more then just drowning.
Lyndsey seems like a really smart woman.
She is. :)
She is speaking as a woman who knows these gorgeous animals. This was not the right way to handle this tragedy. Losing Dawn was tragic enough. Taking the trainers out of the pool was another tragedy for the whales.
Orcas don't struggle for food in the wild Theyre literally at the top of the food chain 🤦
it always boil down to not messing with nature
What happened to Dawn was an accident that no one would like to happen. Dawn's dry, swaying ponytail caught the attention of Tilikum, the orca. The hair looks like a toy or seaweed kelp. Orcas don't intend to eat humans but play with their trainers. Orca in captivity has nothing to do with planning ahead for an accident like this. Orcas are innocent creatures that would like to socialize with humans. Orca was given by God resiliency to adapt to different environments, whether in the ocean or swimming pools like in SeaWorld and any weather. God showed us in the "Believe" show that the orca is not only a kind of animal but has new talents that can work with trainers to entertain humans and give everyone an awesome and decent show. Orcas are not rebellious like humans. They have animal instincts but can be shaped by the movement pattern, where the trainer is professional to direct or work with them.
It wasn't an accident tillikum had already killed two people previously before coming to slave world, he was snatched from he's family in the wild at 2 years old! A few adults in that pod were killed! How can you not see an issue in that
Orcas don't kill people in the wild! Only in captivity go figure
It WAS NOT HER PONYTAIL,HE WAS PISSED AND GRABBED HER ARM!!!!!
Eye witnesses dispute the ponytail theory. Another trainer said the Wales were used to ponytails. It was a talking point used by Sea world to subtly shift blame to her. Disgusting.😊
Amen, That It Is All Done In The Glory Of God. Our Lord And Savior Jesus Christ Deafeated Death Forever. It Is All Finished. Not Even Death Can Separate Us. Amen To The Lord Jesus Christ Forever ❤. Rest In Peace Dawn And Tilly, For God Is With You And Tilly Always And Forever. God Bless Dawn And Tilly In Heaven Forever. Love You All Forever ❤
its just about the money! All the animals have to be in the ocean !!!
This trainer is right about these whales being intoned. I recall bringing my daughter to Sea World when she was about 3 years old which was 1999. We were at the underwater viewing area where you could watch the whales swimming. My daughter had a dolphin puppet in her hand and was standing in front of the viewing window where we could see a mother whale swimming with a baby whale next to her. But the mother whale saw my daughter and swam straight on at my daughter, looking directly at her there with the puppet. Then the mother continued by swimming with her calf. But she did a few more passes just like the first. Something about my daughter caught her eye and caused her to interact intelligently with her. My daughter was so excited by that, and I was too. This huge creature was directly in front of us on the other side of the plexiglass.
It was sad for everyone involved I am sure.
Good interview.
I agree
If you listen to every seaworld trainer they loved these whales ! They have no control over these orca being set free, all they can do is do their best to love and care for them ,many do not agree with them being captive,but they do not own those whales. I think the trainers do the best they can to love and care for these whsles.
She said something like they are well taken care of, and I get that bc the trainers took good care of them, but like they had no reason to go there besides a money racket. These aren't injured whales being brought in to save them. They were taken from their homes and families so that some people could make a killing. Stop defending SeaWorld's mission lady, it's not a good one. The trainers may have been good, but the corporation is a disgusting joke. This whale killed THREE PEOPLE before anything was done and not much of anything has been done bc they are still there making money, just can't get that close to the whales anymore. They need to shut the place down. Sorry about your friend, but you need to blame seaworld for their negligence and stop defending them
IM NOT HATING ON THIS LADY
I FEEL REALLY BAD ABOUT WHAT HAPPEN
BUT !!!
Go Watch The
DOCUMENTARY MOVIE
" BLACK FISH "
Then come back and watch this interview I bet
You will feel differently
I'm just saying...
Blackfish has been proven to be a fake and non factual movie. Most of the clips are twisted with the words. And have been called biased. Let’s remember that no one knows more than the trainers do right now.
Exactly! This woman worked there and has a wee bit different story to tell: th-cam.com/video/cy0VPVynB3Q/w-d-xo.html All these other people have been bought off.
@@johnnymorales3725 It has absolutely has NOT been proven to be fake. And any intelligent human being shouldn't need a movie to know how wrong it is to keep these amazing animals in captivity.
@@kathrync8632 when an animal is born into this lifestyle and is only used to this lifestyle i think it’s fine!
@@johnnymorales3725 Once upon a time, people said the same thing about slavery.
I don't blame tillikum for killing her at all, must of been torment for the poor orcas
I can't even watch this whole thing this woman claims she was dawn's best friend but all she does is defend SeaWorld she is disgusting
It's an insult to her so called friend, she was paid off to say kind words.
It‘s all about the humans … change your point of view and look through the eyes of these animals! 🙁 #don‘tbuyaticket
So humbling, to listen to this very sad end of a friendship. One can only thank them for their best performance, no matter what it may be. 🐋Dream, 🐋Believe or 🐋Dine they give their all. 🐋You could feel the love, 💞the joy & tremendous feeling of just being close with these awesome creations. 👀🙏🙏. Thanks for sharing.
Tells the story good.
And an *accident* is when someone falls and splits their lip. Not when a whale pulls someone in the water and intentionally kills them: "Oops"🙄 Not to mention that Dawn was his *third* victim. Y'all need to watch this: th-cam.com/video/cy0VPVynB3Q/w-d-xo.html
Absolutely right. And anyone who still thinks it is ok to keep whales in captivity is either crazy or not being honest. Keeping these amazing creatures captured is criminal.
What I said exactly he literally ripped her arm off and scalped her. Never in recorded history have they done something like that in the wild it's no accident.
Funny the coroner said her arms were still attached.
What about all that loud music during those daily shows that those whales have to listen to day in and day out over and over and over again that crazy music that's enough to make the poor animal crazy this conversation fails on that level how would you like to perform day in and day out with that crazy music going on
You can plainly see she adored her friend Dawn!..I can understand these trainers becoming so attached to these beautiful creatures , and truly want them to have the best treatment as they COULD have being confined in such a small pool..BUT, in reality , these orcas are living in pure hell!..I can't blame the trainers for their compassion tho how limited with the environment these orcas are forced to endure!..My over all belief of the entire situation at these water parks is all about the owners and their revenue.."MONEY!"..That puts the trainers in the worst position, being so far down the chain of command as to the welfare of the animals..It literally puts them in the worst position!..While the park is bringing in millions for the owners , with no compassion for the orcas OR the trainers...SAD!!!!
This is a awesome person and even though I dont agree with everything she says or everything that was in blackfish for that matter I couldn't help but be impressed by her shes passionate about something she did for a living and the people she worked with just a very smart woman and a loving loyal friend it was wonderful hearing her story thank you for this truly was one of the best interviews I've seen about this situation since its happend!
I completely agree with your comment; it resonates with how I feel. She is amazing, which is why she was one of the closest people to D. However, I believe, like in another comment, that if it is a sanctuary for wounded animals that cannot be released into the wild, no animal should be in captivity. This includes the terrible practice of keeping dogs caged all day while people are working.
I could actually sympathize with this woman and see her side of the story until she started saying that the breeding program was proof of SeaWorld success. She is well aware that they were artificially inseminating these animals and they did not breed because they chose too. As a trainer she would have taken part in that.
These "trainers" deserve everything the animals did to them and more they act so innocent they were working at a puppy mill and they knew it They saw the bad teeth the disease the inbreeding the tiny water cages Nothing but glorified Circus performers Starving these animals for compliance and driving them to insanity
Yes
Why do they keep calling it “an accident”?
Enrich their lives by making them live in a small pool all their lives
Preg o in a wet suit and with a killer whale …? Possibly insane -
Tilikum had to be all alone after this all happened probably not understanding why people stop saying u love these animals that are as smart as us. And be apart of them being in a small prison and away from there mother and real family Tilikum should of been with his natural family in the Ocean he had enough and was stressed out for many reasons then we blame the Orca if people would leave them alone in the Ocean this stuff wouldn't happen RIP Precious Tilikum 💙
interesting, she was under such duress that she misxarried multiple times 😟
why didnt you take maternaty leave?
there is a lot of trauma being hidden in tgese interviews... constantly avoids answering many questions honestly... without diverting subconciously... more than her best friends incident. wow. she didnt trust others working with them.
John the only one and a few other sincerely trying bring light to the truth. I believe they all love these whales but don't change the fact that them being in captivity makes it right
Captivity Means Captive And What Does Captive Mean?? I wonder how much money sea world has payed these 2 off to do this interview i mean poeple cannot be this slow ...
I just watched this interview. I have very high reservations about Lyndsey. She stops & thinks often during the interview. My best friend passed in 2009 & i remember ever single moment we spent together without hesitation when telling a story. I just feel she is doing this for the Defense of SeaWorld. She gets super excited saying SeaWorld will be around for awhile. She speaks of God at time & it is just awkward. One minute she has tears the next she is animated & smiling. Idk how i feel about this.
Great interviewer. Got a new subscriber
Thanks. Great to have you
Orcas are wild, dogs are domesticated
Interesting interview, to hear about what goes on behind the scenes. Sadly some very bizarre comments like enriching their lives, comparing them to dogs & they only breed when they feel safe! If they have enriched lives why do they have worn down teeth from biting at the walls/gates. Why do they attack each other in the pools. They are artificially inseminated not breeding, alot of calves die at young ages. They are bored, frustrated, anxious animals that eventually snap under the pressure of unnatural living conditions. They should all be placed in sea sanctuaries asap.
The irony here is that shelters are at capacity with unwanted pets. Domestic and exotic. Everyone runs out to get a "cool" pet only to abandon it at a struggling non-profit. I can't tell you how many people throw fish in bowls/tanks, lock their dog in a crate 40 hours a week, or clip a bird's wings and keep it in a tiny cage yet simultaneously tell us zoos/aquariums are bad. Look at what covid did to the dog population alone. It's disgusting. Dogs are not accessories but are certainly being treated as such. SeaWorld's animals have world-class care 365 days a year. Time and money are never issues when caring for their animals UNLIKE the households of lay people who are selfish enough to hold animals captive themselves.
I so agree. And there are so many shelter dogs that are unwanted and left to rot. Everybody wants a purebred dog and a puppy. It’s sad. I agree with everything you said.
I am personally against keeping these animals in captivity. Having said that reading the comments of some of these insane and clearly deranged activists makes me feel like I'm on the wrong side. Lydnsey is clearly a nice person and she loves these animals.
loved it 👏❤
This woman Lyndsey for sure has love for animals, I can see that. However, it is still cruel to take those animals out of the wild ( I understood that has stopped because they only breed in captivity now, am I right?), at least in the past they did and that was utterly wrong to start with. Also I find that if the amount of trainers, will diminish, this kind of unhumane practice will at one point cease to exist.At least I sincerely hope so, because however you look at it, however you make it look beautiful, as if it is all ok, in the first place it is a pleasure for the humans.And they use theses magnificent mammals as little dogs in a circus. That to me, is still a cruel practice, although those mammals get used to it. I bet that the first mammals that were captured very much in the beginning of this industrie have suffered tremendously while they were taken out of their native environment! Yes I must admit it looks amazing and it must be amazing to be part of that or even to train them, very special, however the fact remains that they don't belong in a confined swimming pool where they have become like little fish in a bowl. So I sincerely hope this industrie will sizzle out at one point in the near future.
Well I agree with much of what you say. But as long as you’re consistent with all animals. This means people need to release their horses that they keep in stables and show off in horse shows around the world. Not to mention horse racing.
And if we’re going to yell at Seaworld, then people need to let their cats and dogs go free. Because they are not meant to be kept in homes and apartments around the world. Not to mention to profit off breeding and dog and cat shows.
And anyone keeping a bird in a cage also needs to stop doing that.
I don’t have a problem with a few marine parks around the world as long As it’s well regulated and limited. I believe we have learned a lot from sea world in caring and taking care of such magnificent creatures. 😀
@@randyrauch cats and dogs are a terrible example because they have been bred into the breeds they are from wolves and bigger cats, they were never naturally wild. You can see when people try to keep wild species they are often aggressive and hard to control because that's not their nature to be domestic. But i think with orcas not just the fact they travel so far and in big pods to socialise with and can get away from eachother when they want rather than be so close they end up fighting, theyr also intelligent and a tiny pool for them is gne not be stimulating as it gets boring fast.
@@Auron710 thanks for your reply. Really, cats and dogs are a terrible example? Because humans have created new breeds, it’s OK to lock them up in our houses, Apartments, etc. really? How about if Seaworld breeds a new kind of orca whale? Would that be more appropriate and meet your standards?
How about horses that we have locked in stables, corrals and farms around the planet? Should they be freed. Or is that one OK with you as well?
I’m not trying to be facetious. But I am pointing out the hypocrisy of everyone. I think some whales in captivity are beneficial for everyone. Sea world has helped us all love these creatures and appreciate them. I don’t think they should be punished for that. 😀
Same with dogs and cats.
@@randyrauch Spot on! Most of these people pick and choose. Most of them probably have pets they got as babies but complain about something they don't have.
Wonderful women
Amazing girl
Loved this
“When the unstoppable happened.” Did you mean unthinkable? 🤔
Probably very intentional because they could not stop that 3000 pound mammal.
Nobody is to blame on this.
I agree. Everyone always wants someone to blame.
There was one mistake made that day...And I assure you, the whale didn't walk up to Dawn ( My she rest in peace.) Dawn got in to close to the water With Tilikum, and the rest is history.
SeaWorld are to blame! You put a traumatized 12,000 pound apex predator in a fucking tiny pool performing tricks for dumb humans! Tillikum was stolen from the wild at 2 years old! Y'all deluded
how can u compare whales to people in an office
They did nothing wrong.
Very beautiful❇
Broke my heart.