1) Rip is not Yosemite Sam's great great grandson. He is Yosemite Sam's grandson. 2) Joe Rogan thinks Chris Cuomo was lifting a real dumbbell. He believes this because he probably rarely uses a >60 lb kettlebell. He needs Rip. 3) pablum = good word 4) If you *must* run, go to a track and sprint the straight-aways and walk the curves. 5) I started dicking around with weights when I was 20. I just turned 50 and the only thing I have found that I can count on to successfully hold my depression at bay is weight training. It's also been the only thing that I have been consistent with because it is the only thing that consistently delivers exactly what I put into it.
Lifting helps, but WINNING and lots of girlfriends tends to help better. A man complaining about depression.. come on. Have you heard Donald Trump ever saw he was depressed for even a minute?
There is no solid argument against cardio, though. You don't have to run if you hate it, you could go swimming or biking or something. Cardiovascular health is more important in the long run (no pun intended) than strength. If you have to choose, you should choose cardio. The best is to do both, however.
Think there's a difference between "running" (which people would think of long distances) and middle distance (running max a single mile at a time, but more short bursts). Think there is more benefit to the shorter faster runs versus slow jogs, and as Rip says in this video he does this himself.
No one NEEDS to run...no.one needs to squat either, etc etc.... You stretch the heart muscle doing cardio...that's not a bad thing....honestly Rippetoe gets annoying. He has SOME decent advice, but he spews his opinionated crap over everyone elses.
@@ChadWilson I thought Rip said he wasn't really into cannibalism. Even though Vegans tend to be pretty high in protein, I don't think I'd ever eat one.
I'm a 65 yr old lifetime runner who has experienced almost every possible running-related injury. Anyone who runs a lot of mileage will eventually experience multiple injuries over the years but can drastically reduce the chance of injury by getting stronger. "Running poorly" is the result of weakness somewhere that the body attempts to compensate for. Example: a knee injury can result from week lower legs and/or weak glutes/core. The answer is strength training the Starting Strength way! Regarding osteoarthritis, it has more to do with genetics than with running or other physical activity, but the prolonged physical activity is what will generate the pain and inflammation. Regarding using physical activity as a way to relieve mental and emotional stress, I find great peace and joy while running as it takes my mind away from the problems of the world and serves as a time for prayer. The solutions to many problems enter my mind while I am running. I think the same is true for any prolonged physical activity such as swimming, cycling, and now weight lifting. Thank you, Rip, for carrying your message to the world and never relenting. I wasted years on "exercise" before having my mind and eyes opened by your program.
I am a 54 yr old male, 6’1” at 205 Lbs. Now at an intermediate level the training has given me another gear in the sports I engage in. I hike one or two 14ers in Colorado every summer and don’t do a lot of walking or running as training. The squats have taken care of that. I also found this past summer by getting my squat over body weight and deadlift to at least 1.5 times body weight it has made my slalom water skiing a sub maximal event. Thank you
Hi Greg. Interesting post. How much has your slalom doing improved? I'm 56 aways skied ok 4@30mph ! I Cycle and run ,all the things Rippertoe hates !! But I have aways believe in weight training. Now because of age I'm lifting more following Rip ! Feeling great !! He's very funny ! Cheers Martin , UK
@@martindownward9253 the improvement in slalom I mentioned was specifically about just getting up behind the boat. I haven’t skied bouys since high school. Our boat throws too big wake to do a course so I just free ski at this time. Btw since I posted this a year ago Bw is now 215 with squat in the 270 range. Hoping to hit a 300 single by end of year. And that is with doing the program poorly missing a week here and there.
This is one of the best intros....we actually heard the staff and what they had to say that, IMO ,really is as much apart of the show as Master Rip's microphone.
I can't recommend Starting Strength more! I was a runner and ultra heavyweight BJJ competitor. 6'4" 220 heavyweight division. I would run 5-8 miles a day, roll 5 times a week, and did not lift weights except for goofing around in the gym, throwing around kettlebells, and isolation exercises. What nagged me was how the ultra-heavyweights (over 220lbs, usually in the 300s) would throw me around like a little kid. I always new that the psychology of self defense recognizes someone bigger and stronger would actually pick a petty fight or try to mug an individual. The reason being that an attacker subconsciously seeks an individual he can physically dominate. At 6'4'' and 220, only a very large attacker would qualify for this. Considering this, I ceased running, BJJ was cancled due to quarantine, and My wife and I began strength training in February 2020 on the NLP (Yes I trained my wife). The squat began at 125, deadlift 205, bench 95, press 75, I could do chins due to BJJ . Finished the NLP 395x2 squat, 405x4 DL, 230 Bench, and 190 press. Chins stayed the same- BWx6 strict (guessing that is because of the weight gain). I gained 65lbs. Went from 220 to 275! Yes I gained some fat, but a ton of muscle. My gut grew, sp I stopped drinking beer every day like during quaratine and now it is melting away. Instead of fighting to stay lean while burning tons of calories from cardio I seemed to rebound by violently gaining muscle due to the calorie surplus and change in training. We generally eat a starch based oil free diet, so moderate protein. I did take Creatine monohydrate before training. I planned to add more protein and some occasional meat, but the weight kept going up on the bar, so it never was necessary. Some extra benefits were 1. Bilateral infra spinatae injuries healed up due to pressing. I did three years of rehab before beginning SS NLP. Today both shoulders are pain free, and strong. 2. Torn labrum in my hip healed up by squatting. Now it is pain free. I am trying to add strength by continuing to squat. My advice. READ THE BOOKS, and DO THE PROGRAM. Granted, I did not follow the gallon of milk a day. If one reads the book (which most haters will not), he will find that Rippetoe gives a more nuanced answer than just drinking a gallon of milk a day. Macros are the important thing. For the record: I am not a vegan. I did no cardio other than normal work and yard chores. Thank you Mark, and the Starting Strength Staff. Sincerely, -BR
@M B No one mentioned a gallon of milk a day. The protocols are far more complicated than gallon of milk with no cardio. I recommend you read the book. Listen to the SS podcast on the two factor training model. The distinction you are drawing is a zero sum and far too simplistic. You also fall into the mistake of thinking that because one author has exchanged the enjoyment of food for high blood pressure therefore he does not accurately describe the subject of exercise science. A valid scientific theory is not disproved by one's failure to perfectly apply it to one's own benefit.
@@jackepples2811I have bad shoulders. Multiple injuries and chronic pain. Bench is still lower than most people who finished the NLP. I have a hard time with pushups too.
47:12 Heh. Jujimufu has a video of a few different guys trying to do an 8min mile. None of them practiced running. Might be interesting watch for some curious folk.
Was just today trying to convince my brother who’s an ICU doctor to start barbell training. He declined. I’ve experienced chronic back pain caused by L4/5 disc bulges since being in my late teens. The only exercise I did in my 20s was commuting by bicycle, which generally controlled the back pain. Over the years I’ve seen countless physios and chiropractors, tried yoga during flare ups which would leave me lying down a few days and in discomfort for months (a good condition to be in for you to hand money to various back ‘experts’- found the chiropractors to particularly dishonest). After moving close enough to my work to walk in each day about 4 years ago I joined the local gym, started messing about. Think the first or second session went to the squat rack tried 40kg for 10 reps- with form I invented on the spot and fucked up my back for a good month- thought ‘can’t do that with my back’- did upper body stuff and the occasional dumbbell lunge, bit of HIIT never made much strength progress. Then I got to Starting Strength via Stronglifts- Found Rippetoe to be more convincing. Here’s the problem with barbell training- Without decent instruction the risks of aggravating or causing disc injury is high- due to people using poor form. Medics don’t advise it because statistics demonstrating this are high. My brother told me this- not seen the figures myself but trust him and it would echo the reason Doctors and a few neurologists I’ve seen have not recommended heavy lifting. The data they’re working on will not be good enough to factor in form. After 2 years I’ve only just started NLP properly the last 7 weeks. Before that I’ve put myself off work a couple of times squatting incorrectly but kept coming back to it and finally though I’m sure forms not perfect I’m progressing through lifts and I’m really happy with how my spines responded- no pain at all- flexibility in my hams. There’s a load of new muscle around my low back and hips that’s keeping my spine stable. So many people could benefit from this but would need decent instruction- PTs, physios a lot of them don’t seem to do so which is a shame. If Rippetoe wanted to spread the word Rogan would probably help globally but reckon I’d end up having to queue for the Squat rack. Stuart McGill is also the other guy that's help me hugely reduce back pain.
The running portion of the military PT tests are a proxy for the ability to carry equipment long distances. When I was in Marine Infantry School we rarely ever ran. Every other day we marched with a combat load between 20 and 40 miles. When it was over, I could run much faster. But the people who administer the PT tests are too lazy to have troops don their combat gear and speed march 25 miles. (It would also fail all the women)
Walking has been the standard way animals move long distances since the dawn of time, from deer to elephants to even the inherently weaker at running bipedal that is the human.
Farmers carriers (with a lighter weight, longer distance than what we typically see in strongman competitions) would be a better alternative for PT tests.
Yeah I was in ITB in the winter of 2009, we did not hike that much, and we ran almost every morning. 20 miles was our longest hike. Even in the fleet I never hiked more than 20 miles
@@MrPtrlix Problem with that is time. It's easier to check how fast someone can run 2 miles than to have them walk for an hour. A person that can run 2 miles within a reasonable time can walk for hours without problem.
Thank you so much Mark. This has really answered a lot of questions I had. I've gained a lot of muscle since 2020 and recently got back into running and want to be competitive. Now I know to never stop my strength regimen. God bless
I'm used to cycling as I get around the city and buy my groceries with a bike as well. I tried to run the other day for the first time since years, assuming that my already-good cardio would carry over to running. Oh boy, running uses completely different body parts than riding lol. Now I have a bad case of shin splints.
Rip: " running will make you only better at running" Truth- running will make you better at running, cycling, boxing, MMA, basketball, soccer, jumping Truth- squatting 400 will just make you better at squatting 400
Great coverage. I agree with this message. I’m a natural 52 year old lifter and have been training since the 80s. I can pass for my 30s because I’m natural and don’t have the typical leather face of someone on gear. I don’t follow Sam because I can’t relate to him and don’t think I can learn anything from his channel
How is pulling yourself up somewhere not a basic human movement versus pushing something overhead or away from you? I don't understand why SS doesn't include pulling yourself up. You can do it progressively, carrying loads.
@@brianmcg321They pay lip service in the book and then all of their videos ignore it when they talk basic movements, except when you say it, they go, well it is in the book, so it doesn't matter that every time we talk about it, we never include it. The book is very convenient way to say they address something without ever actually talking about it.
35:34 Seems a lot of people take what you say out of context. I'll add I don't think “running” during NLP is necessarily bad, but we have to define “running“. If someone wants to do some 100m intervals once a week, I don't see that as a horrible choice. It could be useful for someone that occasionally finds themselves chasing after a bus. And honestly if someone wants to run, it's like you said. Let them run. And do NLP. Maybe NLP won't be “optimal”, but who cares? It never is anyway. As long as the running isn't excessive then fuck it. It's their time.
Recently I stupidly decided to get back into running. I hadn’t run constantly in 5 years when I was wrestling in high school. But at that time I weighed 168 pounds. Well after getting serious with lifting I now go 250. But was convinced the only way to get my cardio up was to run. Well that was 6 weeks ago. And I haven’t run in 6 weeks. I haven’t squatted or done any deadlift either. Stress fractures in my fibula in my left leg don’t allow it. I won’t be able to squat again or deadlift again until November. The moral of the story is running fucking sucks
it only sucks for people who don't know how to do it .i run 8.5 km regularly every 14-21 days thats the only cardio i do .rest of the time is spent in lifting heavy .i have had zero issues .been running for 6 years and lifting since 16 years .having good cardiovascular capacity helps a lot during recovery .the additional benefit would be having a lower heart resting rtae and low bp .i weigh 209 pounds at 5'9" and i can tell you it has never interfeared with my lifting .
Ajay Konnur I do know how to run properly. But 250 pound body weight plus flat feet made a nasty combination. I believe in having good endurance too. There are other ways to achieve it though. Ways I will have to pursue in the future
@@CrashMetaReligion1996 good to know that.i had flat feet and bent spine too until i completely corrected them .i suffered for 3 months from almost constant shin splints muscle pulls and injuries as i transitioned to minimalist running .3 months later they vanished completely that was in 2013 .still running and lifting and i can see the difference it makes
The moral of the story is that you are a jackass who went in too hard. At 250 you should have known better and started with walking. And lose weight before actually running any real volume. Don't tell me that those 82 pounds of weight you put on over your wrestling body which was probably already athletic is all muscle. You are probably like 200-205 lean at most (that would be a remarkable result after 5 years of lifting, assuming you are natty).
My only concern is cardio health at 50 yrs old. I don’t run because I don’t like running, but how can I maintain cardiovascular health while strength training without the cardio exercise competing with the strength training?
actually the first marathon was 24 miles. a marathon became 26.2 miles in England when the queen of England wanted the race to start and finish in front of her
As an unregistered nurse, the only time you should squat is when some life or death emergency forces you to do so. (See how that works? Pretty dumb, isn't it?)
I always had a love hate relationship with running. Even ran an impromptu Marathon just to say I ran a marathon. HOWEVER,now since I'm wrestling, I have no need to run because I can do other things that gets my cardio up... Like Wrestling
Okay, now he’s claiming there are no psychological benefits to running?? My mental health improved VASTLY when I started running 5 days a week. Huge mood boost. More so than lifting has ever given me, as much as I love lifting.
" but im a doctor " Appeal to authority is a logical fallacy. I work in IT and i know enough about computers to know that there is FAR too much for any one person to know it all. I wonder why doctors cant realize this is the case with the human body as well?
Because they are conmen who have to sell their services. It is a business and literally everything they say should be taken with a grain of salt and most of it is bullshit. Just like the guy fixing your car who wants you to do 15 maintenances a year when it probably just needs 1.
Lifting will only make you a better runner in specific contexts. For example, if you are coming from a sedentary lifestyle, in which case any physical activity will make you a better runner. Or giving one more power over short distances, e.g. enable runner to power up hills more efficiently. Or as a means of injury prevention, e.g. help avoid muscle imbalances that will result from a running-only program. In virtually any other scenario, lifting will not make one a better runner, and in most cases, be a detriment to one's ability to complete a run as efficiently as possible. The bottom line is, unless you are a competitive athlete(in which case you should be practicing your sport and supplementing it with some lifting), you should be doing both strength training and endurance training, as they each provide their own unique benefits to human performance and health. And any program that doesn't contain both is inherently flawed.
You need to be able to move and keep on moving for a long time in the military. What many seem to have forgotten is that these days you do so with 120lbs on your back.
The military just does it to force obedience on people, which is also why they have such shitty uniforms while old european uniforms were awesome. Essentially it is communist bullshit that has creeped into america from the communists roosevelt and eisenhower.
I stopped running as soon as I no longer had to pass a military PT test. Running on pavement is absolutely stupid. Yes we evolved to run farther than monkeys - on grass and dirt, not asphalt pounding your body. If I want to burn more calories or work on my stamina, I'll do the elliptical machine (after lifting).
I'll try to time my 50m freestyle since it should be the best representation of strength in swimming. The last time I have is at the 29's high when I was a teenager. Now, 36 yrs old 5 months on LP, 2x the BW, If I hit the 29's again, it's all good.
Great video, guys! I'm constantly trying to explain this to others. I wish you'd gone into the supposed adaptations that come along with running and "cardio". I'm far from being a biochemist, so bear with my likely out-in-the-woods hypothesis: if I'm not mistaken, animal cells can produce energy in the form of adenosine triphosphate (ATP) by both aerobic and anaerobic processes. That is means contingent and not contingent upon the presence of oxygen, respectively. The aerobic method runs at a limited rate, due to some inhibitive enzymes or something like that. The anaerobic method can run to the extent that the cells' demands for grub have been met. This is allowed by a cycle that has the byproduct of ATP consumption-pyruvate or lactic acid, I forget-become an energy source. The more we tap into this anaerobic process, the more efficient and effective it will become. The limits of it's oxygen-dependent counterpart can't be surmounted. The cells must encounter a sufficiently strenuous workload in order to be signaled to access the anaerobic cycle. Running will never or rarely provides sufficient levels of stimulation. Lifting, particularly with maximal effort, does. Runners believe that they're doing "cardio" to improve the efficiency of their lungs. Whenever I ask them what exactly it is about their lungs that is improving, they've no answer. It's always the case that they haven't an answer to this question. The irony is that a legit way of improving the function of one's lungs would be to ramp the speed with which the lungs' cell use, and recycle energy to perform their FUNCTIONS. Squatting sufficient levels of resistance, not running on the treadmill for eons, will make your lungs work better. Do you think there's any merit to this theory?
Maybe that would explain my understanding as to why sprinting is much better for conditioning than slow-paced jogging for producing more cardiovascular strength and efficiency. Good Post man 👍🏼
Running generates significant fatigue, and lifting weights generates significant fatigue. Pairing the two together is a recipe for impaired progress given the constrained energy model. If you need to do conditioning look at walking, stationary biking, or the prowler. In general the longer the duration, the higher the impact, the higher the intensity the greater the chance of interference. There's a dose dependent response. I walk 6.5k steps per day and that's more than enough "exercise" to keep my work capacity and health up.
Many people hate distance running because it's extremely difficult. It takes a heck of a lot of mental toughness and fortitude. It isn't for everyone. I'd much rather perform a 20 rep back squat to failure than to have to run 5-miles because the set of squats will be over much quicker. I think distance running is important to build mental toughness into people. Because your mind keeps telling you to "stop", and you need to teach your mind to push through the fatigue. This is why soldiers and Marines run. This is why Navy SEALS in training run so much. They're trying to "break" you, and running is the easiest way to break a person.
The solution is simple, get strong, if you're genetically a light guy fit for running you will be a good runner, otherwise you will not be particularly good but you'll be much better than you think.
@@randomnameindeed It was the case with me, now I outrun your weak ass any day without training, be sad and start lifting, sub 180kg squat is never acceptable for a mature man that trains.
@@senselessnothing Hahaha! Sure, it makes sense that someone who never runs can outrun someone who runs all the time! And yes, you've already stressed how your strength enables you to do anything in life! I bet you're so strong that you can levitate if you flap your arms hard enough. When you go to the pool they need to fill the pool up again because you're so strong that you've pushed all the water out of the pool 🤣🤣 We mere mortals can only dream of achieving such high levels of excellence! We're in awe of your perfection! 😂😂
Okay I’d been running my entire adolescence, early to mid 20s. I enjoyed the solitude and meditative aspect, but it did absolutely nothing to my physique. Being raised in a family of doctors I’ve always been a health conscious person so it’s not like my nutrition was the problem. I had to quit running during pregnancy and breastfeed period. It was just too annoying to handle the bounces if you know what I mean. That’s when I started lifting. Life changing, literally. I’m in my mid30s now and I can confidently say my physique has never been better. 3 times of weight training every week is all I do. Zero running involved.
You probably mean you were "jogging". "Running" will do wonders for your physique. Try sprinting full or half gassers. Find a 50-yd hill and sprint up that. The problem is that when many people say they go "running", what they're really doing is a slow and pathetic "jog" with terrible form.
@Celtic Pride Running is certainly not for everyone. Certainly not for a flat footed fatty like me. I lost weight but knees are very bad. I now only run when chased by the police and cougars. Actually, no I don’t run from the cougars but just in case.
Hey Rip, hope you're doing well. I wanted to ask you a question about grip strength. I'm 27 / 5'9"/ 210 and am running the NLP. During my last session, I squatted 270 and deadlifted 315. I'm also one of those guys that does bent-over rows instead of power cleans. My last work sets for rows were at 195 and am also chinning at 145. I fully expect you to give me grief for not power cleaning at 27yo and I probably deserve it haha. My main concern is on the deadlift. My last warm-up set is 275x2 right now and I can barely hold conventional grip for that second rep. Locking out hips and shoulders feels like it will make my grip give out and I can't hold it for more than a second. I've heard you say before that if you can't do your last warm-up set with conventional grip, your grip is not strong enough. I'm wondering if there's any extra grip work I could be doing to improve my performance with conventional grip? I'd love to be able to do my work set with conventional, but I'd settle for feeling more confident about my last warm-up set. Might be appropriate to let you know that I do play music for a living and suffered from RSI in my left wrist as a result of bad playing habits earlier this year. It is much improved now, especially since starting to train, but maybe it has contributed to my issue? Thanks in advance for any answer.
"Persistence hunting was likely one of a number of tactics used by early hominins, and could have been practised with or without projectile weapons such as darts, spears, or slings." "The persistence hunt is still practiced by hunter-gatherers in the central Kalahari Desert in Southern Africa. The procedure is to run down an antelope, such as a kudu, in the midday heat, for up to five hours and a distance of up to 35 km (22 mi) in temperatures of as much as 42 °C (108 °F)."
@@pinksupremacy6076 Good luck "persistence running" in the european forests and mountains. Persistence hunting is evolutionarily low tier desperation hunting, trapping animals has been the evolutionary standard. (note that persistent hunting is not even running, it often includes alot of walking and it's rarely longer than a few miles).
Running and even walking are indeed the best exercise if “best” is defined as time-efficient, doable by anyone at any age, and sufficient to remain healthy and brisk on your feet until the day you die.
Also in my opinion as someone who studied evolutionary biology in college; the upright posture is an adaptation to walking long distances, not to running. Humans are designed to run, but under stress, which is why its more physically punishing.
@@suntzu7727 Hence why I said, "I find it a lot easier" to run. If an activity means I'm going to be out of commission for a couple days until I recover, I am less likely to do it consistently, this is also why I do weight training in winter because it is a lot easier to lift weights in my basement than to try running in a foot of snow when its 20 degrees outside.
@@suntzu7727 Lifting heavy weights is way more easier than running. Running fast for a long distance is the best test of your willpower. Lifting doesn't require much willpower, most of what it requires is regular training and a good diet, also steroids if you are a cheater and want to lift heavy even with less effort. Contrary to what most people in the lifting community think, lifting and big muscles aren't a measure of someone's manlinnes or "alfamaleness". Try to run a sub 20 min 5km or a sub 40 min 10km for a start and you'll see that you'll give up not only because your body is weak, but because your willpower is weak as well. Lifting doesn't train your willpower.
35:00 If you’re not going to watch this video in its entirety and just talk shit down here in the scum section, at least click on that time stamp and listen to the next 2 minutes.
@@arturpetrovici True, but running is actually a very functional skill. It's important in everything from war and disasters to catching a bus. When will I ever need a 200 kg deadlift?
@@arturpetrovici NOPE!! plenty of very big and strong powerlifters can squat a tonne and cannot run a mile in under 10 mins! I remember Jim Wendler saying when he was squatting 1000LB that he would get gassed just walking up stairs, that does NOT translate to athletic performance where running is required...aka nearly EVERY SPORT!!!! Just cause you can squat well does NOT translate into fast running, sprinting and jumping! A good sprinter will generally have a high front squat: body weight ratio, but a good squat doesn't necessarily mean you are a good sprinter or good at 'running' by any means!
@@dannyboi472 I laughed because those articles don't exist. However, what does exist are tons of misinformed criticisms about Rip's suggestion to drink a gallon of milk for underweight trainees in the first phase of the novice program. Hence, the cow juice squirting out of my nose.
@@Abraham_Kist-Okazaki Yeah? It works. Most people who start ss are under esterseand gomad is an easy technique to put on weight fast. Albeit half a gallon would be better for a slower bulk. Most of these people doing it have no clue about tdee and tracking calories.
@@dannyboi472 I've seen one honest criticism, but the criticism comes alongside it being promoted while comparing it to (I think) Starr's 5x5. The only criticisms are 3x5 may not be enough volume for some and if not, just add a couple sets so it's like 5x5. I don't agree it's not enough for most. Gifted young athletes would obviously be able to do more, but I don't think "it's not enough". The other is Rip's dogmatic stance on the low bar squat. I understand why the low bar is better for strength training and I think it's optimal for SS programming, but it isn't necessary. It's not like if you can't get the grip/arms/elbows right you just have to give up on the whole thing. The last time I did SS NLP I did high bar and didn't do cleans at all. I also only did it 2x's per week. My deadlift lagged a bit, but it progressed just fine. It's not like I couldn't get stronger.
The cardio adaptation is probably on the few weeks range in length, which makes sense since you're not building 10lbs of muscle but a minor amount of tissue
Since SS talks of primal movements such as the squat, deadlift etc - why isn't running considered as one? Walk is. And running is basically walking very fast. And is really cleans and power-cleans considered a primal movement? isnt it just a fast deadlift, followed by a upright row?
My son at 17 years old and 5'11'' 220lbs squatted 500lbs and could sprint and run. On the same day he benched 325x2, did 20 dead hang pull ups and ran the mile in 6 min flat as a challenge for a wrestling workout. Granted he has some athletic gifts and has many college offers in football and wrestling, but suffice to say it can be done! He just did the work!
@@unpluggedbug6744 he also trained at an elite level in wrestling and football with high level strength and conditioning coaching.. People can reach Higher Goals they think they are capable of with the proper mental approach. Most people don't know or understand what it takes.
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1) Rip is not Yosemite Sam's great great grandson. He is Yosemite Sam's grandson.
2) Joe Rogan thinks Chris Cuomo was lifting a real dumbbell. He believes this because he probably rarely uses a >60 lb kettlebell. He needs Rip.
3) pablum = good word
4) If you *must* run, go to a track and sprint the straight-aways and walk the curves.
5) I started dicking around with weights when I was 20. I just turned 50 and the only thing I have found that I can count on to successfully hold my depression at bay is weight training. It's also been the only thing that I have been consistent with because it is the only thing that consistently delivers exactly what I put into it.
Lifting helps, but WINNING and lots of girlfriends tends to help better. A man complaining about depression.. come on. Have you heard Donald Trump ever saw he was depressed for even a minute?
There was a tyop on that dumbbell. It was actually 200 lbs
@@samwest4538 lmfao hilarious
Rogan even called it a barbell. Gave himself away then.
I always hated running and now I have a solid argument to justify my prejudice, thanks Uncle Rip!
There is no solid argument against cardio, though. You don't have to run if you hate it, you could go swimming or biking or something. Cardiovascular health is more important in the long run (no pun intended) than strength. If you have to choose, you should choose cardio. The best is to do both, however.
Think there's a difference between "running" (which people would think of long distances) and middle distance (running max a single mile at a time, but more short bursts). Think there is more benefit to the shorter faster runs versus slow jogs, and as Rip says in this video he does this himself.
No one NEEDS to run...no.one needs to squat either, etc etc.... You stretch the heart muscle doing cardio...that's not a bad thing....honestly Rippetoe gets annoying. He has SOME decent advice, but he spews his opinionated crap over everyone elses.
@@randomnameindeed yeah because repping 325 in the squat is not “cardio”
@@jms0313 You're right, it's not.
Rip is my favorite natty vegan white supremacist.
Rip needs to fully embrace these flaws and start a vegan cooking channel.
@@ChadWilson I thought Rip said he wasn't really into cannibalism. Even though Vegans tend to be pretty high in protein, I don't think I'd ever eat one.
LOL!
Don’t eat vegans they’re carcinogenic from all the seed oils. Stick with grass fed hippies.
@@benrunsacross2935 Thanks for the heads up!
I'm a 65 yr old lifetime runner who has experienced almost every possible running-related injury. Anyone who runs a lot of mileage will eventually experience multiple injuries over the years but can drastically reduce the chance of injury by getting stronger. "Running poorly" is the result of weakness somewhere that the body attempts to compensate for. Example: a knee injury can result from week lower legs and/or weak glutes/core. The answer is strength training the Starting Strength way!
Regarding osteoarthritis, it has more to do with genetics than with running or other physical activity, but the prolonged physical activity is what will generate the pain and inflammation.
Regarding using physical activity as a way to relieve mental and emotional stress, I find great peace and joy while running as it takes my mind away from the problems of the world and serves as a time for prayer. The solutions to many problems enter my mind while I am running. I think the same is true for any prolonged physical activity such as swimming, cycling, and now weight lifting.
Thank you, Rip, for carrying your message to the world and never relenting. I wasted years on "exercise" before having my mind and eyes opened by your program.
I am a 54 yr old male, 6’1” at 205 Lbs. Now at an intermediate level the training has given me another gear in the sports I engage in. I hike one or two 14ers in Colorado every summer and don’t do a lot of walking or running as training. The squats have taken care of that. I also found this past summer by getting my squat over body weight and deadlift to at least 1.5 times body weight it has made my slalom water skiing a sub maximal event. Thank you
Hi Greg. Interesting post. How much has your slalom doing improved? I'm 56 aways skied ok 4@30mph ! I Cycle and run ,all the things Rippertoe hates !! But I have aways believe in weight training. Now because of age I'm lifting more following Rip ! Feeling great !! He's very funny !
Cheers Martin ,
UK
@@martindownward9253 the improvement in slalom I mentioned was specifically about just getting up behind the boat. I haven’t skied bouys since high school. Our boat throws too big wake to do a course so I just free ski at this time. Btw since I posted this a year ago Bw is now 215 with squat in the 270 range. Hoping to hit a 300 single by end of year. And that is with doing the program poorly missing a week here and there.
This is one of the best intros....we actually heard the staff and what they had to say that, IMO ,really is as much apart of the show as Master Rip's microphone.
I can't recommend Starting Strength more! I was a runner and ultra heavyweight BJJ competitor. 6'4" 220 heavyweight division. I would run 5-8 miles a day, roll 5 times a week, and did not lift weights except for goofing around in the gym, throwing around kettlebells, and isolation exercises.
What nagged me was how the ultra-heavyweights (over 220lbs, usually in the 300s) would throw me around like a little kid. I always new that the psychology of self defense recognizes someone bigger and stronger would actually pick a petty fight or try to mug an individual. The reason being that an attacker subconsciously seeks an individual he can physically dominate. At 6'4'' and 220, only a very large attacker would qualify for this.
Considering this, I ceased running, BJJ was cancled due to quarantine, and My wife and I began strength training in February 2020 on the NLP (Yes I trained my wife). The squat began at 125, deadlift 205, bench 95, press 75, I could do chins due to BJJ . Finished the NLP 395x2 squat, 405x4 DL, 230 Bench, and 190 press. Chins stayed the same- BWx6 strict (guessing that is because of the weight gain). I gained 65lbs. Went from 220 to 275! Yes I gained some fat, but a ton of muscle. My gut grew, sp I stopped drinking beer every day like during quaratine and now it is melting away. Instead of fighting to stay lean while burning tons of calories from cardio I seemed to rebound by violently gaining muscle due to the calorie surplus and change in training. We generally eat a starch based oil free diet, so moderate protein. I did take Creatine monohydrate before training. I planned to add more protein and some occasional meat, but the weight kept going up on the bar, so it never was necessary.
Some extra benefits were
1. Bilateral infra spinatae injuries healed up due to pressing. I did three years of rehab before beginning SS NLP. Today both shoulders are pain free, and strong.
2. Torn labrum in my hip healed up by squatting. Now it is pain free. I am trying to add strength by continuing to squat.
My advice. READ THE BOOKS, and DO THE PROGRAM. Granted, I did not follow the gallon of milk a day. If one reads the book (which most haters will not), he will find that Rippetoe gives a more nuanced answer than just drinking a gallon of milk a day. Macros are the important thing. For the record: I am not a vegan. I did no cardio other than normal work and yard chores.
Thank you Mark, and the Starting Strength Staff.
Sincerely,
-BR
@M B No one mentioned a gallon of milk a day. The protocols are far more complicated than gallon of milk with no cardio. I recommend you read the book. Listen to the SS podcast on the two factor training model. The distinction you are drawing is a zero sum and far too simplistic. You also fall into the mistake of thinking that because one author has exchanged the enjoyment of food for high blood pressure therefore he does not accurately describe the subject of exercise science. A valid scientific theory is not disproved by one's failure to perfectly apply it to one's own benefit.
@M B GOMAD is for 5'10" 120lb twigs who have a hard time stomaching the caloric surplus necessary to make progress with gaining strength.
You benched 95 pounds at 220 6’4?
@@jackepples2811I have bad shoulders. Multiple injuries and chronic pain. Bench is still lower than most people who finished the NLP. I have a hard time with pushups too.
BR Big Runners that’s fair bro. I wasn’t tryna diss, I was just surprised. You’ve made some huge progress, keep at it g
I love finding info that supports my prejudice. Cause I hate running.
@UC1rJjCBKoKhaBHUxoum5UWQ he does run tough.... And I do cardio.
I love short distance runs plus it seems like that person deleted their comment haah
Read the first part and thought you were referring to his SS shirt.
I ran for 20+ years and it wiped out my knees and robbed my gains. It is the biggest waste of time ever invented.
did you read the article "why you should not be running" on his website? lol
47:12 Heh. Jujimufu has a video of a few different guys trying to do an 8min mile. None of them practiced running. Might be interesting watch for some curious folk.
Believe or not but Rippletits doesn't even need to run to maintain his physique.
He's concerned with performance not looks.
Try the starting strength method for one month. Just one month and tell me how much better you feel every day
Rip is starting to look more and more like he could us some running himself.
It’s not about looks here. Wow. People don’t get that.
Because he drinks a lot of alcohol , that's the crux of it
Was just today trying to convince my brother who’s an ICU doctor to start barbell training. He declined.
I’ve experienced chronic back pain caused by L4/5 disc bulges since being in my late teens. The only exercise I did in my 20s was commuting by bicycle, which generally controlled the back pain. Over the years I’ve seen countless physios and chiropractors, tried yoga during flare ups which would leave me lying down a few days and in discomfort for months (a good condition to be in for you to hand money to various back ‘experts’- found the chiropractors to particularly dishonest).
After moving close enough to my work to walk in each day about 4 years ago I joined the local gym, started messing about. Think the first or second session went to the squat rack tried 40kg for 10 reps- with form I invented on the spot and fucked up my back for a good month- thought ‘can’t do that with my back’- did upper body stuff and the occasional dumbbell lunge, bit of HIIT never made much strength progress. Then I got to Starting Strength via Stronglifts- Found Rippetoe to be more convincing.
Here’s the problem with barbell training- Without decent instruction the risks of aggravating or causing disc injury is high- due to people using poor form. Medics don’t advise it because statistics demonstrating this are high. My brother told me this- not seen the figures myself but trust him and it would echo the reason Doctors and a few neurologists I’ve seen have not recommended heavy lifting. The data they’re working on will not be good enough to factor in form.
After 2 years I’ve only just started NLP properly the last 7 weeks. Before that I’ve put myself off work a couple of times squatting incorrectly but kept coming back to it and finally though I’m sure forms not perfect I’m progressing through lifts and I’m really happy with how my spines responded- no pain at all- flexibility in my hams. There’s a load of new muscle around my low back and hips that’s keeping my spine stable. So many people could benefit from this but would need decent instruction- PTs, physios a lot of them don’t seem to do so which is a shame.
If Rippetoe wanted to spread the word Rogan would probably help globally but reckon I’d end up having to queue for the Squat rack.
Stuart McGill is also the other guy that's help me hugely reduce back pain.
The running portion of the military PT tests are a proxy for the ability to carry equipment long distances. When I was in Marine Infantry School we rarely ever ran. Every other day we marched with a combat load between 20 and 40 miles. When it was over, I could run much faster. But the people who administer the PT tests are too lazy to have troops don their combat gear and speed march 25 miles. (It would also fail all the women)
Walking has been the standard way animals move long distances since the dawn of time, from deer to elephants to even the inherently weaker at running bipedal that is the human.
Farmers carriers (with a lighter weight, longer distance than what we typically see in strongman competitions) would be a better alternative for PT tests.
You definitely were not covering the crucible distance with a full combat load every other day at ITB.
Yeah I was in ITB in the winter of 2009, we did not hike that much, and we ran almost every morning. 20 miles was our longest hike. Even in the fleet I never hiked more than 20 miles
@@MrPtrlix Problem with that is time. It's easier to check how fast someone can run 2 miles than to have them walk for an hour. A person that can run 2 miles within a reasonable time can walk for hours without problem.
The shirt is lacking a little pizazz. You should stylise the letters somehow, maybe as lightning bolts...
Lol I was gonna same the same thing
Thank you so much Mark. This has really answered a lot of questions I had. I've gained a lot of muscle since 2020 and recently got back into running and want to be competitive. Now I know to never stop my strength regimen. God bless
Hearing that Mark loves Ron Paul makes me love both of them even more.
Mark has been a radical libertarian for some time....
@@dragonchr15 *Nazi
I'm used to cycling as I get around the city and buy my groceries with a bike as well. I tried to run the other day for the first time since years, assuming that my already-good cardio would carry over to running. Oh boy, running uses completely different body parts than riding lol. Now I have a bad case of shin splints.
Idk even after listening to him I can't see how not running is good for you. Even 3 miles a week is good enough imo
This is a top 10 episode
Saying it again, thank you for helping me become better
You Don't Need To Lift | Starting Cardio Radio #77
Rip: " running will make you only better at running"
Truth- running will make you better at running, cycling, boxing, MMA, basketball, soccer, jumping
Truth- squatting 400 will just make you better at squatting 400
@@MikeBarbarossa squatting heavy leads to an increased running efficiency. Thus squatting actually allows you to run faster and/or longer
Great coverage. I agree with this message. I’m a natural 52 year old lifter and have been training since the 80s. I can pass for my 30s because I’m natural and don’t have the typical leather face of someone on gear. I don’t follow Sam because I can’t relate to him and don’t think I can learn anything from his channel
What do you think about yoke walks, sandbag carries etc?
How is pulling yourself up somewhere not a basic human movement versus pushing something overhead or away from you? I don't understand why SS doesn't include pulling yourself up. You can do it progressively, carrying loads.
They do
They do. Read the book.
@@brianmcg321They pay lip service in the book and then all of their videos ignore it when they talk basic movements, except when you say it, they go, well it is in the book, so it doesn't matter that every time we talk about it, we never include it. The book is very convenient way to say they address something without ever actually talking about it.
Running is fun to me. But strength training while running has been great. ✨
Great to have the “haters” back 😃 and some new angle on insults to Rip. Bubble gum Sam.
Rip roaring out "Commentsssss frum thuh hhatterrrss" like that reminds me of the MGM lion at the beginning of a James Bond movie.
I love your voice😍
You would do great as a children's book narrator or doing a cartoon voice.
Where can I get this t shirt?
I've been doing this for 5 months and added 10 lb of muscle just by doing basic workouts mostly. Keep adding weight till I can't push it up.
This was the most informative podcast on starting strength for a while, watching it for the fourth time. My meat is well and truly tenderised.
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Seems a lot of people take what you say out of context.
I'll add I don't think “running” during NLP is necessarily bad, but we have to define “running“. If someone wants to do some 100m intervals once a week, I don't see that as a horrible choice. It could be useful for someone that occasionally finds themselves chasing after a bus.
And honestly if someone wants to run, it's like you said. Let them run. And do NLP. Maybe NLP won't be “optimal”, but who cares? It never is anyway. As long as the running isn't excessive then fuck it. It's their time.
Sept of 2023 and I’m still triple masking when I run outdoors. 👽😷👽
we need "Pink Supremacy" t shirt.
The modern marathon is 26.2 miles due to changes to the course at the request of Queen Alexandra during the 1908 Olympic Games.
still way too much if you weigh anything
@@senselessnothing I don't disagree.
He who wants to run, let him run.
I truly enjoy this show.
you're gay
Recently I stupidly decided to get back into running. I hadn’t run constantly in 5 years when I was wrestling in high school. But at that time I weighed 168 pounds. Well after getting serious with lifting I now go 250. But was convinced the only way to get my cardio up was to run. Well that was 6 weeks ago. And I haven’t run in 6 weeks. I haven’t squatted or done any deadlift either. Stress fractures in my fibula in my left leg don’t allow it. I won’t be able to squat again or deadlift again until November. The moral of the story is running fucking sucks
it only sucks for people who don't know how to do it .i run 8.5 km regularly every 14-21 days thats the only cardio i do .rest of the time is spent in lifting heavy .i have had zero issues .been running for 6 years and lifting since 16 years .having good cardiovascular capacity helps a lot during recovery .the additional benefit would be having a lower heart resting rtae and low bp .i weigh 209 pounds at 5'9" and i can tell you it has never interfeared with my lifting .
Ajay Konnur I do know how to run properly. But 250 pound body weight plus flat feet made a nasty combination. I believe in having good endurance too. There are other ways to achieve it though. Ways I will have to pursue in the future
@@CrashMetaReligion1996 good to know that.i had flat feet and bent spine too until i completely corrected them .i suffered for 3 months from almost constant shin splints muscle pulls and injuries as i transitioned to minimalist running .3 months later they vanished completely that was in 2013 .still running and lifting and i can see the difference it makes
The moral of the story is that you are a jackass who went in too hard. At 250 you should have known better and started with walking. And lose weight before actually running any real volume. Don't tell me that those 82 pounds of weight you put on over your wrestling body which was probably already athletic is all muscle. You are probably like 200-205 lean at most (that would be a remarkable result after 5 years of lifting, assuming you are natty).
What are some good alternatives to running for cardio?
From running I have knee problems. Believe it or not but from squatting I have no issues at all.
My only concern is cardio health at 50 yrs old. I don’t run because I don’t like running, but how can I maintain cardiovascular health while strength training without the cardio exercise competing with the strength training?
It is provided by the strength training
@@JH-dr6doNo, it's not. Strength training is not cardio unless you are extremely out of shape anyways, in which case anything is.
@@suntzu7727 yes it is
@@brianmcg321 Coping.
Beautifull ending
actually the first marathon was 24 miles. a marathon became 26.2 miles in England when the queen of England wanted the race to start and finish in front of her
As a registered nurse the only time you should run is when chased.
As an unregistered nurse, the only time you should squat is when some life or death emergency forces you to do so.
(See how that works? Pretty dumb, isn't it?)
@@denvergriffin5555 you liked your own comment didn't you?
Because being a nurse makes you an authority! 😂
I like this, however, I’d likely be very slow having never run before being chased. Thereby possibly making my run ineffective lol.
Doctors run for your health. Also Doctors stop running it will damage your joints.
Dr. Sullivan's book does this whole analysis of cardio and strength for you Ripp. It's 1/3 of the book.
How can I become a starting strength coach!!?
The last time I ran my arm was stuck in the bus door.
My knees do NOT like running. If I want to breathe hard, I will put on my boxing gloves and work the bag for a few minutes.
Not normal if your knees do not like what human body evolved to do most of the day
amen thank you Mark
I always had a love hate relationship with running. Even ran an impromptu Marathon just to say I ran a marathon. HOWEVER,now since I'm wrestling, I have no need to run because I can do other things that gets my cardio up... Like Wrestling
Okay, now he’s claiming there are no psychological benefits to running?? My mental health improved VASTLY when I started running 5 days a week. Huge mood boost. More so than lifting has ever given me, as much as I love lifting.
Like rip said. If you like running then run. He doesn't care
" but im a doctor " Appeal to authority is a logical fallacy. I work in IT and i know enough about computers to know that there is FAR too much for any one person to know it all. I wonder why doctors cant realize this is the case with the human body as well?
Because they are conmen who have to sell their services. It is a business and literally everything they say should be taken with a grain of salt and most of it is bullshit. Just like the guy fixing your car who wants you to do 15 maintenances a year when it probably just needs 1.
Lifting will only make you a better runner in specific contexts. For example, if you are coming from a sedentary lifestyle, in which case any physical activity will make you a better runner. Or giving one more power over short distances, e.g. enable runner to power up hills more efficiently. Or as a means of injury prevention, e.g. help avoid muscle imbalances that will result from a running-only program. In virtually any other scenario, lifting will not make one a better runner, and in most cases, be a detriment to one's ability to complete a run as efficiently as possible.
The bottom line is, unless you are a competitive athlete(in which case you should be practicing your sport and supplementing it with some lifting), you should be doing both strength training and endurance training, as they each provide their own unique benefits to human performance and health. And any program that doesn't contain both is inherently flawed.
You have to run if you want to be good at anything that involves serious running, which includes many sports
Until the military values strength and endurance over the ability to run fast, I’m stuck running...
I feel ya
You need to be able to move and keep on moving for a long time in the military. What many seem to have forgotten is that these days you do so with 120lbs on your back.
The military just does it to force obedience on people, which is also why they have such shitty uniforms while old european uniforms were awesome. Essentially it is communist bullshit that has creeped into america from the communists roosevelt and eisenhower.
I stopped running as soon as I no longer had to pass a military PT test. Running on pavement is absolutely stupid. Yes we evolved to run farther than monkeys - on grass and dirt, not asphalt pounding your body. If I want to burn more calories or work on my stamina, I'll do the elliptical machine (after lifting).
They say we descended from fish before monkeys. Not enough evolution textbooks in the world to convince me fish turned into people.
stair climber here....
Military PT is maybe the stupidest testing criteria ever devised.
I'll try to time my 50m freestyle since it should be the best representation of strength in swimming. The last time I have is at the 29's high when I was a teenager. Now, 36 yrs old 5 months on LP, 2x the BW, If I hit the 29's again, it's all good.
Did you hit 29s?
Good show↼🔔
Ripp! You are hilarious. Shameless, and hillarious.
Great video, guys!
I'm constantly trying to explain this to others. I wish you'd gone into the supposed adaptations that come along with running and "cardio".
I'm far from being a biochemist, so bear with my likely out-in-the-woods hypothesis: if I'm not mistaken, animal cells can produce energy in the form of adenosine triphosphate (ATP) by both aerobic and anaerobic processes. That is means contingent and not contingent upon the presence of oxygen, respectively.
The aerobic method runs at a limited rate, due to some inhibitive enzymes or something like that. The anaerobic method can run to the extent that the cells' demands for grub have been met. This is allowed by a cycle that has the byproduct of ATP consumption-pyruvate or lactic acid, I forget-become an energy source. The more we tap into this anaerobic process, the more efficient and effective it will become. The limits of it's oxygen-dependent counterpart can't be surmounted.
The cells must encounter a sufficiently strenuous workload in order to be signaled to access the anaerobic cycle. Running will never or rarely provides sufficient levels of stimulation. Lifting, particularly with maximal effort, does.
Runners believe that they're doing "cardio" to improve the efficiency of their lungs. Whenever I ask them what exactly it is about their lungs that is improving, they've no answer. It's always the case that they haven't an answer to this question.
The irony is that a legit way of improving the function of one's lungs would be to ramp the speed with which the lungs' cell use, and recycle energy to perform their FUNCTIONS.
Squatting sufficient levels of resistance, not running on the treadmill for eons, will make your lungs work better.
Do you think there's any merit to this theory?
Maybe that would explain my understanding as to why sprinting is much better for conditioning than slow-paced jogging for producing more cardiovascular strength and efficiency.
Good Post man 👍🏼
Squatting won't keep your heart rate elevated enough for long enough to have a cardiovascular effect for endurance.
No need to run, but you do absoultely need to do conditioning.
Long story short:
-Sprint fast
-Jump High
-Lift Heavy
-Be Conditioned
-Be Powerful
Running generates significant fatigue, and lifting weights generates significant fatigue. Pairing the two together is a recipe for impaired progress given the constrained energy model. If you need to do conditioning look at walking, stationary biking, or the prowler. In general the longer the duration, the higher the impact, the higher the intensity the greater the chance of interference. There's a dose dependent response. I walk 6.5k steps per day and that's more than enough "exercise" to keep my work capacity and health up.
Many people hate distance running because it's extremely difficult. It takes a heck of a lot of mental toughness and fortitude. It isn't for everyone. I'd much rather perform a 20 rep back squat to failure than to have to run 5-miles because the set of squats will be over much quicker. I think distance running is important to build mental toughness into people. Because your mind keeps telling you to "stop", and you need to teach your mind to push through the fatigue. This is why soldiers and Marines run. This is why Navy SEALS in training run so much. They're trying to "break" you, and running is the easiest way to break a person.
The solution is simple, get strong, if you're genetically a light guy fit for running you will be a good runner, otherwise you will not be particularly good but you'll be much better than you think.
Good joke! 🤣🤣
@@randomnameindeed It was the case with me, now I outrun your weak ass any day without training, be sad and start lifting, sub 180kg squat is never acceptable for a mature man that trains.
@@senselessnothing Hahaha! Sure, it makes sense that someone who never runs can outrun someone who runs all the time! And yes, you've already stressed how your strength enables you to do anything in life! I bet you're so strong that you can levitate if you flap your arms hard enough. When you go to the pool they need to fill the pool up again because you're so strong that you've pushed all the water out of the pool 🤣🤣 We mere mortals can only dream of achieving such high levels of excellence! We're in awe of your perfection! 😂😂
@@randomnameindeed write something meaningful next time
Okay I’d been running my entire adolescence, early to mid 20s. I enjoyed the solitude and meditative aspect, but it did absolutely nothing to my physique. Being raised in a family of doctors I’ve always been a health conscious person so it’s not like my nutrition was the problem. I had to quit running during pregnancy and breastfeed period. It was just too annoying to handle the bounces if you know what I mean. That’s when I started lifting. Life changing, literally. I’m in my mid30s now and I can confidently say my physique has never been better. 3 times of weight training every week is all I do. Zero running involved.
You probably mean you were "jogging". "Running" will do wonders for your physique. Try sprinting full or half gassers. Find a 50-yd hill and sprint up that. The problem is that when many people say they go "running", what they're really doing is a slow and pathetic "jog" with terrible form.
I have 2 reasons to prove why running is bad - both of my knees.
@Celtic Pride Running is certainly not for everyone. Certainly not for a flat footed fatty like me. I lost weight but knees are very bad. I now only run when chased by the police and cougars. Actually, no I don’t run from the cougars but just in case.
Go on Rogan
Running just makes recovery harder and burns me out. I never run I just lift heavy and walk
Hey Rip, hope you're doing well. I wanted to ask you a question about grip strength.
I'm 27 / 5'9"/ 210 and am running the NLP. During my last session, I squatted 270 and deadlifted 315. I'm also one of those guys that does bent-over rows instead of power cleans. My last work sets for rows were at 195 and am also chinning at 145. I fully expect you to give me grief for not power cleaning at 27yo and I probably deserve it haha.
My main concern is on the deadlift. My last warm-up set is 275x2 right now and I can barely hold conventional grip for that second rep. Locking out hips and shoulders feels like it will make my grip give out and I can't hold it for more than a second. I've heard you say before that if you can't do your last warm-up set with conventional grip, your grip is not strong enough. I'm wondering if there's any extra grip work I could be doing to improve my performance with conventional grip? I'd love to be able to do my work set with conventional, but I'd settle for feeling more confident about my last warm-up set. Might be appropriate to let you know that I do play music for a living and suffered from RSI in my left wrist as a result of bad playing habits earlier this year. It is much improved now, especially since starting to train, but maybe it has contributed to my issue? Thanks in advance for any answer.
Hook grip
Time stamp plz always
Wait, these aren't Secret Service T-shirts?
sucking semen
Awesome!
Walking is key
Haha 17 minutes in. Love it
If you’re going to run, make sure you do it while wearing a mask.
"Persistence hunting was likely one of a number of tactics used by early hominins, and could have been practised with or without projectile weapons such as darts, spears, or slings."
"The persistence hunt is still practiced by hunter-gatherers in the central Kalahari Desert in Southern Africa. The procedure is to run down an antelope, such as a kudu, in the midday heat, for up to five hours and a distance of up to 35 km (22 mi) in temperatures of as much as 42 °C (108 °F)."
Persistence hunting was never a thing, european humans have been out of savannas for way too long.
@@senselessnothing Squatting 150kg or whatever was never a thing either.
@@senselessnothing I think it was a thing actually. That's far from the only obly culture engaged in long distance running.
@@pinksupremacy6076 Good luck "persistence running" in the european forests and mountains. Persistence hunting is evolutionarily low tier desperation hunting, trapping animals has been the evolutionary standard.
(note that persistent hunting is not even running, it often includes alot of walking and it's rarely longer than a few miles).
@@randomnameindeed You have never wrestled anyone or moved anything around have you?
Running and even walking are indeed the best exercise if “best” is defined as time-efficient, doable by anyone at any age, and sufficient to remain healthy and brisk on your feet until the day you die.
I enjoy running, I find its a lot easier to put on my running shoes and go for a jog than it is to go into my basement and lift for some reason.
Also in my opinion as someone who studied evolutionary biology in college; the upright posture is an adaptation to walking long distances, not to running. Humans are designed to run, but under stress, which is why its more physically punishing.
The reason is not mysterious. Lifting heavy weights is harder.
Sun Tzu LOL, that depends who you ask. For meatheads running is alot harder. That’s why they don’t do it.
@@suntzu7727 Hence why I said, "I find it a lot easier" to run. If an activity means I'm going to be out of commission for a couple days until I recover, I am less likely to do it consistently, this is also why I do weight training in winter because it is a lot easier to lift weights in my basement than to try running in a foot of snow when its 20 degrees outside.
@@suntzu7727 Lifting heavy weights is way more easier than running. Running fast for a long distance is the best test of your willpower. Lifting doesn't require much willpower, most of what it requires is regular training and a good diet, also steroids if you are a cheater and want to lift heavy even with less effort.
Contrary to what most people in the lifting community think, lifting and big muscles aren't a measure of someone's manlinnes or "alfamaleness". Try to run a sub 20 min 5km or a sub 40 min 10km for a start and you'll see that you'll give up not only because your body is weak, but because your willpower is weak as well. Lifting doesn't train your willpower.
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If you’re not going to watch this video in its entirety and just talk shit down here in the scum section, at least click on that time stamp and listen to the next 2 minutes.
Joe Rogan would destroy you with his deadly Taekwondo.
The statement beginning at 34:59 is the most misunderstood statement in the entire program.
2:15 someone clip this
Yeah well thing is being able to move your body powerfully through space aka RUNNING is one of the MAIN aspects of nearly EVERY SPORT!!!!
Nope! ATHLETICISM is. Running is just one of its expressions.
@@arturpetrovici True, but running is actually a very functional skill. It's important in everything from war and disasters to catching a bus. When will I ever need a 200 kg deadlift?
@@randomnameindeed When you want to run quickly, that's when strong glutes from deadlifting will help your weak ass propel you.
Running shorter periods of time is perfectly satisfied by lifting weights.
@@arturpetrovici NOPE!! plenty of very big and strong powerlifters can squat a tonne and cannot run a mile in under 10 mins! I remember Jim Wendler saying when he was squatting 1000LB that he would get gassed just walking up stairs, that does NOT translate to athletic performance where running is required...aka nearly EVERY SPORT!!!!
Just cause you can squat well does NOT translate into fast running, sprinting and jumping! A good sprinter will generally have a high front squat: body weight ratio, but a good squat doesn't necessarily mean you are a good sprinter or good at 'running' by any means!
Please Rip, help Joe's channel!!! I would love to see it.
Injuries is the only thing too look forward if all you do is run.....
Run using the 180 low heart rate method
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The shirt comment made me laugh hahaha
All I hear is privilege, I just don’t see any 👌🏼 classic
38:00 I laughed so hard a whole gallon of milk squirted out of my nose when suggested that there are no logical criticisms of your novice program.
Abraham Kist-Okazaki can you link some please. I’d like to read them.
@@dannyboi472 I laughed because those articles don't exist. However, what does exist are tons of misinformed criticisms about Rip's suggestion to drink a gallon of milk for underweight trainees in the first phase of the novice program. Hence, the cow juice squirting out of my nose.
Abraham Kist-Okazaki oh good. I thought you were suggesting there are lots of logical criticisms
@@Abraham_Kist-Okazaki Yeah? It works. Most people who start ss are under esterseand gomad is an easy technique to put on weight fast. Albeit half a gallon would be better for a slower bulk. Most of these people doing it have no clue about tdee and tracking calories.
@@dannyboi472 I've seen one honest criticism, but the criticism comes alongside it being promoted while comparing it to (I think) Starr's 5x5. The only criticisms are 3x5 may not be enough volume for some and if not, just add a couple sets so it's like 5x5. I don't agree it's not enough for most. Gifted young athletes would obviously be able to do more, but I don't think "it's not enough".
The other is Rip's dogmatic stance on the low bar squat. I understand why the low bar is better for strength training and I think it's optimal for SS programming, but it isn't necessary. It's not like if you can't get the grip/arms/elbows right you just have to give up on the whole thing.
The last time I did SS NLP I did high bar and didn't do cleans at all. I also only did it 2x's per week. My deadlift lagged a bit, but it progressed just fine. It's not like I couldn't get stronger.
If you're strong, who do you need to run from anyway? :/
The cardio adaptation is probably on the few weeks range in length, which makes sense since you're not building 10lbs of muscle but a minor amount of tissue
You think developing eccentric cardiac hypertrophy is simply building a minor amount of tissue?
I would have said a relative of foghorn leghorn tbh
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The first 15 minutes had me rolling and dying laughing
3:28 clip this too
Since SS talks of primal movements such as the squat, deadlift etc - why isn't running considered as one? Walk is. And running is basically walking very fast. And is really cleans and power-cleans considered a primal movement? isnt it just a fast deadlift, followed by a upright row?
haha face-fuck-toe always contradicts him/her/itself
Mark Rippetoe 2020 - Make America Walk or Go by Car Again
My son at 17 years old and 5'11'' 220lbs squatted 500lbs and could sprint and run. On the same day he benched 325x2, did 20 dead hang pull ups and ran the mile in 6 min flat as a challenge for a wrestling workout. Granted he has some athletic gifts and has many college offers in football and wrestling, but suffice to say it can be done! He just did the work!
Those are elite level strength genetics if he's only 17.
A 500lb squat, and 315 bench(for reps) are lifetime goals for most average men.
@@unpluggedbug6744 he also trained at an elite level in wrestling and football with high level strength and conditioning coaching.. People can reach Higher Goals they think they are capable of with the proper mental approach. Most people don't know or understand what it takes.
Hilarious and informative
Haven't been built to run for 90 pounds Have to fight now.