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We are blessed to have the gracious giant intellectual genius of David Starkey! I love listening to his wonderful arguments about history, particularly Tudor and English history, law and conservatism. I am American and we are again blessed that our government is so close to the English government!!
Why are you both so blessed? It brought you Trump and Boris Johnson. Two of the biggest and greediest liars ever who in reality did not care two hoots about the problems or suffering of their people. Personally I would prefer Macron or Merkel anytime.
Dr.Starkey welcome back! Please don't be gone for long we all need your thoughts your intelligence we learn SO MUCH whenever we have the privilege of listening and seeing you!❤❤❤
That is true in some ways. However, I think European nationalists would do quite well to adopt the language of decolonisation and simply turn it around on them. The so called "decolonisation" movement which seeks to unseat the Western canon could be described as a form of cultural colonialism on the part of the recent settlers and their allies after all.
“We’re fools to fight them on their own ground.” Exactly right. For God’s sake do not ever apologize for this Western culture or attempt to let those who aim to destroy it off the hook.
Aafife - Yes , We have more democratic human rights , children's rights , labour , animal rights than any other time in human history . More science , technology , public programs than at any other time . All of this was the result of the English / Scottish Enlightenment . These neo marxist woke fools have nothing to offer but vandalism , bullying , shuting down of academic discussion, academic quackery & the destruction of a culture , heritage and national identity . They even try to make neo marxist woke words sound similar to Enlightenment values . .
It is so very important to understand the incredible power of brainwashing as used by the left and these bad actors in our midst. They understand that brainwashing using the msm, culture, education etc literally takes over people's minds to such an extent that it is physically painful for them to even consider an alternative reality. Even when faced with total unchallenged proof they will still cling to their delusions. The evil people using these methods know this fact of course which makes it far worse. We must understand fully what we are up against! Yes fight on our ground..which is commonly known as the TRUTH.
Dr David Starkey is one of the last profound and brilliant european historians who dare to truly love their own country and who sees things in their historical prospective. A predominate trend in schools and universities now is a self-hating, self-blaming and self-denouncing approach to the history of Europe and a whole Western civilisation. And who profits by it?
If Murray, Hitchens or Bindel had the binary choice between lab/tory or an ethno nationalist party they'd all vote for the status quo. None of these, including Starkey, are willing to embrace the Jewish question
@madforit2 are you psychic? Because I can't imagine how you could know who any of them would vote for. There is no "Jewish question". Stop dreaming about Nazi Germany. Jews are as much a part of Britain as any other citizen.
What an age we live in. You can get access to a mind like David Starkey for free on TH-cam whereas you pay for a substandard education at university. There is still hope
As a white westerner, now 70, ex RAF, taught Maths and Science in multicultural schools worked abroad teaching non-western students, married an Asian lady and brought her kids up and, a student of history - with such a background in a way I can see the logic and why we are now seeing this attack on Western civilization. At its most simplest, it is a case of revenge, history always repeats its self i.e. the fall of the Roman Empire, wanting what we created i.e. technology and science but the anger in them knowing (as shown so well in South Africa) that without us, they can't achieve it themselves and the realization they can't get on with each other and so look to us to protect them. Sadly and is really obvious that especially here in the UK and America our days are numbered to another Dark Ages.
I agree and I add that when Rome fell the barbarians were already living in the city as economic migrants. My entire extended family has moved to rural Australia. I often say we did so, so that we could go back to the Middle Ages on our own terms.
When did your history books begin, because history is anything but one sided, it was one long continuous battle from all sides. What we are really seeing is success vs failure. And neither is the fault of the West. When it was the time for the Arabs, Ottomans, African kings, etc, they don't seem to complain about that. They pick and choose. And only a fool would believe the West is destructing. Infact, we shall do the opposite. This only reminds us to reaffirm who we are and to clsoe the gates on those who want us to be destroyed.
@@grannyannie2948 Oh yes, currently re-watching the two seasons of ROME and unlike the first time I watched it, now have the ability to watch the many TH-cams about the making of it. Which includes very much the historical fact that ROME had a very large migrant population that even though could not hold the rank of being a citizen and were barred from certain buildings and events, still very much played a central role in the running of the city - sounds familiar? Both my father's and mother's family who had by all accounts been Londoners most likely for centuries, seeing what was happening around they ddi what your family but to Southend where collectively being the first grandchild and the only to be born in London, ended up with 27 cousins, of which a good number moved to A|ustralia that over the years, I lost all contact with. Sad really. Not surprising and may well have not been down of malice due to that most Roman migrants had lived and even been borne there, as is now happening in our cities. Thus and quite naturally, if you know the enemy is at the door, are you really going to how the same loyalty, desire to fight or resist as an indigenous citizen of that city or country. No you are not, and as such, when Rome fell starting about 200 AD. and did about 476 AD by German chieftain Odoacer it was very much due to the assistance by migrants. I suspect the same for us but in a much shorter time periodand is what is going to happen to us by China and I am so glad I will long time gone,.
Its telling that David should talk about the West's selfdestruction, just on the day when the UK announced it would introduce gender neutral titles in the armed forces
You’re not seriously saying that titles in the armed forces have anything to do with the west’s self-destruction? Do you have any evidence whatsoever that this argument is in fact, a logically valid deduction? Or are you relying on some unspoken premises you are assuming to be true? Given we’ve exhausted deductive reasoning without apparently demonstrating anything, am I to assume you are relying on some unspoken inductive reasoning which remains unclear. Can you help me follow your argument at all, please? Y’see, David is sticking to rational argument as defined by valid deductions and the avoidance of accidental inductive leaps without justification, though he does sometimes take liberties in this latter respect.
@@Dreadtower Well all empires became decadent and self destructive towards the end of their days. The Roman Empire is the best example. Not only that of course. Its the continuous giving up of Western values: Religion, democracy, tradition. The biggest debate is now revolving around gender issues, which is not only unscientific, but also shows how the priorities have changed. The gender issue is an artificial bone for us to chew on, while the West is steadily losing its leading role in the world.
I always laugh when British anti-monarchists say they want a Republic. They already live in Europe’s, and perhaps the worlds’s, oldest republic! A republic is a political system that has elected representatives to speak for the majority of its people. So long as the elections are honest, that is. Republics don’t have to have no monarch, be liberal or radical, or anything else except have elected representatives. The British sovereign has no legal powers, so what’s the problem? I can understand the value of having a ceremonial, apolitical, head of state, at least if they’re as great as the late Queen was. Whether or not to have a monarchy is up to the people of that country, not others to decide.
They obviously haven't read up on their British history either. The monarch was ousted once, a civil war between the Royalists and the Roundheads. The Roundheads won and things went so south afterwards that after around 10 years of just parliament control, the people proclaimed Charles II King again. So there was 10 years of civil war where many died, 10 years of new found authoritarian government, and then the public decided it was better how it was before and re instated the King. It seems historically when a mob is wound up by certain groups to enact change, things go bad, mobs are easily fooled by simply offering them dreams that target their selfishness or self preservation. But even when their is an organic uprising within the masses, the uprising is co-opted and manipulated by groups that want power and money (any Communist uprising for example)
@@kingcosworth2643 The education level's of the public at the time was considerably different to today, additionally communications are much improved so now you have a totally different result! The monarchy is dead it will shortly be buried.
The west seems to be in the same condition as the Western Roman Empire of around 425-450 A.D. They could not see what was coming. We can. Indeed, some of us are actively encouraging it.
Dr. Starkey is the famous “high-church atheist”, in his words. May appreciate the history and beauty of the Anglican or Catholic Church services without being believers.
Actually, the great bully of the world is a British product. Take a deeper look into the history of British foreign policy for the past four hundred years and you will understand the deeper relationships between England and the US. USA is a continuation of British imperialism and the two nations cannot be culturally separated. It is very obvious when we observe their ambitious military endeavors. It becomes even more obvious when we examine the very close financial ties that have been established across the Atlantic. It is all one unified corporate entity pretending to live separate national identities ruled under the dual-party dichotomy that is making a mockery of democracy. In the Anglo-American world it is all about keeping the official discussion within certain bounds and narratives. Great Britain is by no means the only bullish and aggressive nation in human history. A whole range of European nations have a lot of blood on their hands having raped and enslaved other nations and cultures to extinction for the past five hundred years. But the British became the most successful in maintaining their kind of superiority and cultural indoctrination over much of the rest of the world. The creation of USA became, in fact, instrumental in the next step to maintain this control and cultural influence over the world after the British empire had fallen. British culture and ways of doing business is still very much the order of the day across the world. The multinational corporate elite of today draw much of their perceived rights to exist from the established order produced by Great Britain. So, when we hear representatives of British society complain about western values and culture being under attack we must understand where these people come from and what position in the world they like to keep and not loose. Arrogance is always the greatest hindrance to true understanding and insights. Arrogance knows many ways to portray its own superiority and infallible qualities. It knows its ways around eloquent speech and persuasive talk. The arrogant knows well how to maintain the control over the narrative and the direction in which they think development and progress should proceed. But when they feel that their authority is threatened or under scrutiny a very aggressive response emerges very quickly. One of the most commonly used tactics used to deflate an undesirable development or discussion is to conjure up a new threat or reawakening an old enemy. How many wars during the past hundred years haven’t we seen being started for reasons that just doesn’t make sense, unless we understand whose controlling the world? It doesn’t take much scratching the surface to see what’s going on underneath. Who’s calling the shots? Right now all attention is on a group of military criminals called the Wagner group, meanwhile no-one seems to care about the very extensive and clandestine operations taking place, under our noses, by a the secretive US agency called BlackRock. And they like it to stay that way. Making us looking elsewhere while they continue to operate their sinister schemes for world dominance. Believe it or not, there’s a whole world out there that doesn’t want to be ruled by the British and their culture of elitism, hypocrisy and false righteousness.
Also multiculturalism is a wilful minsomer for the reality that is multinationalism, to which those cultures are directly attributed. Multinationalism is universalism/globalism. The literal piecemeal eradication and replacement of the nation state.
I HAVE GAD SUCH AN INCREDIBLE EDUCATION LISTENING TO THIS BRILLIANT GENTLEMAN ; IVE BEEN BINGE WATCHING HIS LECTURES AS IM OBVIOUSLY IN GREAT ADMINISTRATION OF HIM
The most important point Dr Starkey has ever made is what separates England from the rest of the world: we do not want to _tear down_ institutions, we want a part _within them._ The importance of this point is difficult to put into mere words, it is an instruction from the past of how we do things that is evidently useful.
I'm American and that's literally why there are these groups that want to take the Monarchy down because it is stable and can work in many different forms. Please don't get rid of it
"Universal Rights are a nonsense....unless you believe in God". Well, yes. For the record, I love England. My character has been formed from English values of reticence, fair play, "doing the right thing", adventurous enterprise, being a good sport. "The ultimate product of PPE is Matt Hancock.". Now, THERE is a remark that resonates, for its depressing truth, and amuses at the same time.
" English values of reticence, fair play, "doing the right thing", adventurous enterprise" I love that English lie. Sell it the masses and ignore for yourself (the English). Fair play? Loot. Reticence? Inner perversions and Victorian whorehouses. Being a good sport? Fight only when you have an advantage. The English are the worst of the Europeans and one day when it is overrun, it will be fair play.
I take comfort and security in the fact that our leaders, executive, legislative, and judicial, are bound by a written Constitution which sets forth the limits of power of men. It's not a perfect system, nor are men angels, but the written Constitution defining three subsets of government, keeps men who would grab power in control. Starkey is defending a British Constitution created and defined by a thousand years of history. And his Constitution still lasts. I think that has something to do with the British people, who are mostly homogeneous, and largely virtuous. That we Americans are not, we are multicultural and often lacking in virtue, must constitute a danger the country.
I think most people in the anglosphere have the same basic values and virtues but i see generations coming up behind me that are not taught the same. The USA was made up of mostly europeans (natives notwithstanding) with the same values but the populations of both countries UK and USA are changing so values will change, i can honestly say the country i live in today is not the same one i was born in.
Very interesting conversation. Starkey brings T.S. Eliot into it but does not acknowledge that The Four Quartets is Eliot's great religious work and at its heart is the Anglo-Catholic perspective. Eliot''s thoughts in Little Gidding were awakened by the place "where prayer has been valid." History in England is rooted in her thousand year history as a Catholic country, so devoutly Catholic that she was known as "Mary's Dowry." "The intelligentsia always know enough about religion to distort it." Bishop Fulton Sheen.
The protocols of the Catholic Church are diametrically opposed to the Bible. Britain was truly Christian before Augustine tricked the church in handing the reins of control over to a Pope (itself a title not found in Scripture but in paganism) who in turn held Europe in darkness to a millennium and a half. The birth of the Reformation was in England with Wycliffe's translation of the Bible into English - something banned by Catholics. England prospered as it was not as controlled by Catholicism as other European countries.
The coronation script struck me as completely divine-right, too. As did not inviting parliament. Charles focused too much on the emotional aspects and inclusivity.
The fact that that "National Conservatism" outfit uploaded online every major speaker's speech bar Starkers' - which is the one every1 wanted to listen to - indicates what type of body it is in terms of intellectual seriousness.
@@evolassunglasses4673 The conference was organised by an outfit called 'The Edmund Burke Foundation', based in Washington DC, it's apparently funded by American-Israelis. There's a link to them supporting Trump's bag-of-hot-air nonsense as well. Seems they didn't dig what Starkers' had to say. Possibly they want Capitalism/"Conservatism" without any ethnicity orientated thinking (other than Zionism, which they appear to have a financial interest in intellectually advancing), & Starkers crossed a red-line with them in that speech they blacked out.
I would love to hear David's thoughts on the Okd Testament. I was honoured to have studied at New College and opted for OT and Near Eastern studies. I was fascinated to learn about the polemical content of the OT. I again was honoured to have studied in the original languages of Hebrew Greek and Ugaritic.
Disagree with Starkers' novel point about the nature of a Republic not inherently excluding a monarch, it does. England isn't a Republic it's a constitutional monarchy, where the Crown has always operated under the constraint of law & custom going back to the origins of the English before they crossed the North Sea in the 5th Century. See Tacitus' Germania' (A.D. 98) for the nature of this system, and how the tribal kings' power was qualified by interaction with the people in meetings (called "moots"), which in turn follows thru in due course in England to the 'Witan' constitutional system. This system was suppressed for a while but not successfully eradicated by the Norman kings, and reappeared in the form of the Parliament at Westminster after they had passed into history.
Similar as Elective Monarchy in Polish-Lithuanian Kingdom. Monarch accepted duty to guarantee freedoms, mostly for nobles but nobles numbering whopping 10% of population
Dr Starkey: What you have omitted in your analysis of the Coronation, is that it was - first and foremost - the Coronation of the King of ENGLAND! The crown used, by the Primate of all ENGLAND (a jealously guarded prerogative!) was St Edward's Crown (THE 'Crown of England'). Scotland and Wales have their own crowns. Charles III receives homage as King of England. He then retires to the Shrine of St Edward the Confessor, where - without ceremony - the Crown of England is exchanged for the, lighter, Imperial State Crown of the United Kingdom; which is what is worn in that splendid procession, and return to Buckingham Palace. St Edward's Crown will not be used again; until the Coronation of William V.
@@davidpnewton According to the official guidebook to the Crown Jewels, two new crowns were commissioned in 1660; a replacement St Edward's Crown, and an Imperial Crown. The latter was always much more embellished with "more and larger gems" than the Coronation Crown. But the Imperial Crown reflected the sovereignty over Ireland, and other territories. The present ISC was commissioned in 1937; and was a re-modelling of Victoria's. Suyre, they're both the product of English craftmanship; but 'THE' Crown of England is the coronation crown; 'St Edward's Crown'.
@@Mark_Dyer1 you misunderstand "imperial". It has nothing to do with anything other than England. Imperial in that context means vassal of no one. Nothing to do with Ireland. Nothing to do with the British Empire.
@@Mark_Dyer1 irrelevant. I have told you what the word imperial means in this context. You have ignored what I have said and continued to make false claims. There are only a limited number of conclusions which can legitimately be drawn about your actions. None are flattering for you.
I would love to hear more about 1603 and 1707. I read that it was a Scottish noble who married an English aristocrat in Essex who sold Scotland to the English monarch. An announcement took place outside Holyrood. I don't know much more therefore that's why I am asking. Thank you.
I like Starkey but why does he always misquote Jefferson. “All men are born free and equal.” Jefferson never said that. Or at least, the Declaration of Independence doesn’t say that.
When an "expert" strays into an area where you have knowledge and says what you know to be untrue, you should be skeptical of what they say about things outside your experience. Mangling the American declaration of independence and then publicly criticizing what it does not say is inexcusable for a historian.
The French don't seem to sit as still for it as the British do when their political class and business leaders walk all over them. Who is the modern French version of Thatcher?
The only thing we do well here is the black market. A-PTG without a manufacturing base means importing substandard goods to undercut our own exporters. hs2 is fraud written as law but the poor shoplifter who is hedging against inflation just like the city does deserves life without parole for 3 offences. Your hubris is a great source of amusement btw paying yourselves like masters of the universe while being unable to build a short stretch of railway.
I have a different conception of the exact root of Western Civ but that’s beside the point. My slight problem with his obviously brilliant and renown opinion and his Protestant rhetorical style and approach is that, how can one save a civilization that (supposedly)requires four years of discourse to roughly outline? Do average citizens have that sort of abundant spare time? Maybe he’s far more concise in other presentations… BTW, “Western Civ” was also deeply influenced by Egyptian, Near East, Nordic Uralic and E. Central Asian civilizations.
Just because some radicals in the 18th century called that "the pinnacle of reason" doesn't mean it was. Starkey is a smart man and I like him a lot, but he often only cites the radicals of the side he's opposing, not the moderates or scholars.
The English constitutional system is capable of self-improvement, but also of self-harm. I would argue that it is experiencing a period of self-harm at the moment. Perhaps one of the transplanted and augmented systems - that of Australia or Canada - could be considered to be now superior, and might be copied?
I'm Australian and our constitution is planned to be changed to allow the courts to confiscate private property, by introducing the Aboriginal Voice to parliament.
When our government legislate new laws why do they not seek advice from men like David Starkey who have far more knowledge than some of the hacks they listen to.
Except he argues for the Tudor Revolution from above. Which is a repudiation of the Plantagent establishment, which relied so much for its legitimacy on papal authority. The Tudors aimed to kill every member of that dynasty, even though Henry VII had founded his own legitimacy on his dubious membership in that dynasty. One reason why he was desperate to produce a male heir, since Mary through her mother was undoubtedly of royal blood.
Can universalism be separated from the notion that 'one size fits all' ? Can universalism be separated from the notion of a 'monopoly of ideas' ? Can universalism therefore be seperated from the imposition of a single idea or dogma ? Does it matter if that imposed idea is based upon collective objective reality or personal subjective fanatasy ? aka. The truth vs dogma vs My truth. Especially in the era of the philosophy of the three monkeys as opposed to that of redemption. But I guess that boat sailed with the debates at the very beginning of modern christianity.
I seem to remember a bloody civil war, followed by the return of monarchy which again proved itself too autocratic, followed by the monarch's deposition, and finally the threat of a foreign invasion and the importation of a foreign (Dutch) monarch to establish the laws and the system of real parliamentary monarchy, with the monarch firmly bound by the laws of land which this gentleman would have us believe just grew "organically" and all by itself from the inherently democratic spirit of Englishness. I thought we were all grown ups here.
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the Israelis want nationalism for themselves, but not for the rest of us
@@alanbstard4what are you talking about? How does Israel not want nationalism for anyone else?
@@lewis123417 it tells other nations they should have many immigrants and be multiracial
I still remember you stating that White people became Black in 2011, come out and discuss this..........
@@alanbstard4 since when? And who?
He was in great form for this discussion. Very entertaining and engaging.
I could listen to David all night such an interesting man.
We are blessed to have the gracious giant intellectual genius of David Starkey! I love listening to his wonderful arguments about history, particularly Tudor and English history, law and conservatism. I am American and we are again blessed that our government is so close to the English government!!
Yes both are totally corrupt
Why are you both so blessed? It brought you Trump and Boris Johnson. Two of the biggest and greediest liars ever who in reality did not care two hoots about the problems or suffering of their people. Personally I would prefer Macron or Merkel anytime.
What the heck does "blessed" mean.
Starky is a racist battyman [homosexual]
Could not agree more.
Dr.Starkey welcome back! Please don't be gone for long we all need your thoughts your intelligence we learn SO MUCH whenever we have the privilege of listening and seeing you!❤❤❤
👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏and SO SAY millions of people across the UK would AGREE. 👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏.
If only we had people like Dr Starkey in government and not this woke nonsense.
@@mariamichael1669 what is woke anyways? Nonsense!
David: "We are fools for trying to fight them on their own ground". Excellent observation indeed.
Yes you cant use a corrupt system to deal with the corrupt system. Time to BURN IT ALL DOWN 🔥
That is true in some ways. However, I think European nationalists would do quite well to adopt the language of decolonisation and simply turn it around on them. The so called "decolonisation" movement which seeks to unseat the Western canon could be described as a form of cultural colonialism on the part of the recent settlers and their allies after all.
"A Dane, but a remarkable man..." No one does a back-handed compliment like Dr. Starkey.
What was the Dane’s name?
He's name is Jacob Mchangama, head of the think tank "Justitia"@@BobbyC-be9vy
@@BobbyC-be9vy Same, I want to read the book.
We are so lucky to have David Starkey
We cant even be centrist without being accused of being far right.
“We’re fools to fight them on their own ground.” Exactly right. For God’s sake do not ever apologize for this Western culture or attempt to let those who aim to destroy it off the hook.
Aafife - Yes , We have more democratic human rights , children's rights , labour , animal rights than any other time in human history . More science , technology , public programs than at any other time .
All of this was the result of the English / Scottish Enlightenment .
These neo marxist woke fools have nothing to offer but vandalism , bullying , shuting down of academic discussion, academic quackery & the destruction of a culture , heritage and national identity . They even try to make neo marxist woke words sound similar to Enlightenment values .
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@aafi. Liked your post.
It is so very important to understand the incredible power of brainwashing as used by the left and these bad actors in our midst. They understand that brainwashing using the msm, culture, education etc literally takes over people's minds to such an extent that it is physically painful for them to even consider an alternative reality. Even when faced with total unchallenged proof they will still cling to their delusions. The evil people using these methods know this fact of course which makes it far worse. We must understand fully what we are up against! Yes fight on our ground..which is commonly known as the TRUTH.
Start by staying put of China's internal affairs
David Starkey is a legend!
Dr David Starkey is one of the last profound and brilliant european historians who dare to truly love their own country and who sees things in their historical prospective. A predominate trend in schools and universities now is a self-hating, self-blaming and self-denouncing approach to the history of Europe and a whole Western civilisation. And who profits by it?
Met David Starkey on a train years ago. Intelligent man. Nice to see that he is still drinking the good stuff.
What an honor to meet him!
I could listen to David Starkey talk all day. He his a wealth of knowledge and a national treasure.
Love Starkey! ❤️ Peter Whittle is fast becoming a favourite too.
People like these plus Douglas Murray, Peter Hitchens, Julie Bindel etc give me Hope
Yes it could be called Neurotics and conspiracy theorists are US
Other than Peter Hitchens I agree.
If Murray, Hitchens or Bindel had the binary choice between lab/tory or an ethno nationalist party they'd all vote for the status quo.
None of these, including Starkey, are willing to embrace the Jewish question
@madforit2 are you psychic? Because I can't imagine how you could know who any of them would vote for.
There is no "Jewish question". Stop dreaming about Nazi Germany. Jews are as much a part of Britain as any other citizen.
@@abigailslade3824 Hitchens has the cynicism of an old fashioned hack which keeps him sane !
What an age we live in. You can get access to a mind like David Starkey for free on TH-cam whereas you pay for a substandard education at university. There is still hope
i would love David doing a real true history of England series
As a white westerner, now 70, ex RAF, taught Maths and Science in multicultural schools worked abroad teaching non-western students, married an Asian lady and brought her kids up and, a student of history - with such a background in a way I can see the logic and why we are now seeing this attack on Western civilization.
At its most simplest, it is a case of revenge, history always repeats its self i.e. the fall of the Roman Empire, wanting what we created i.e. technology and science but the anger in them knowing (as shown so well in South Africa) that without us, they can't achieve it themselves and the realization they can't get on with each other and so look to us to protect them.
Sadly and is really obvious that especially here in the UK and America our days are numbered to another Dark Ages.
British stole 45 Trillion dollars and starved millions to death in India.
An American
I agree and I add that when Rome fell the barbarians were already living in the city as economic migrants. My entire extended family has moved to rural Australia. I often say we did so, so that we could go back to the Middle Ages on our own terms.
Yes, look at what they are doing to France. There will be anarchy in the UK next unless people fight back.
When did your history books begin, because history is anything but one sided, it was one long continuous battle from all sides.
What we are really seeing is success vs failure. And neither is the fault of the West.
When it was the time for the Arabs, Ottomans, African kings, etc, they don't seem to complain about that.
They pick and choose.
And only a fool would believe the West is destructing. Infact, we shall do the opposite. This only reminds us to reaffirm who we are and to clsoe the gates on those who want us to be destroyed.
@@grannyannie2948 Oh yes, currently re-watching the two seasons of ROME and unlike the first time I watched it, now have the ability to watch the many TH-cams about the making of it. Which includes very much the historical fact that ROME had a very large migrant population that even though could not hold the rank of being a citizen and were barred from certain buildings and events, still very much played a central role in the running of the city - sounds familiar?
Both my father's and mother's family who had by all accounts been Londoners most likely for centuries, seeing what was happening around they ddi what your family but to Southend where collectively being the first grandchild and the only to be born in London, ended up with 27 cousins, of which a good number moved to A|ustralia that over the years, I lost all contact with. Sad really.
Not surprising and may well have not been down of malice due to that most Roman migrants had lived and even been borne there, as is now happening in our cities.
Thus and quite naturally, if you know the enemy is at the door, are you really going to how the same loyalty, desire to fight or resist as an indigenous citizen of that city or country.
No you are not, and as such, when Rome fell starting about 200 AD. and did about 476 AD by German chieftain Odoacer it was very much due to the assistance by migrants.
I suspect the same for us but in a much shorter time periodand is what is going to happen to us by China and I am so glad I will long time gone,.
Its telling that David should talk about the West's selfdestruction, just on the day when the UK announced it would introduce gender neutral titles in the armed forces
You’re not seriously saying that titles in the armed forces have anything to do with the west’s self-destruction?
Do you have any evidence whatsoever that this argument is in fact, a logically valid deduction?
Or are you relying on some unspoken premises you are assuming to be true?
Given we’ve exhausted deductive reasoning without apparently demonstrating anything, am I to assume you are relying on some unspoken inductive reasoning which remains unclear.
Can you help me follow your argument at all, please?
Y’see, David is sticking to rational argument as defined by valid deductions and the avoidance of accidental inductive leaps without justification, though he does sometimes take liberties in this latter respect.
They have always been gender neutral
Titles as in ranks, Captain etc? Always been gender neutral or am I missing something?
@@Dreadtower Well all empires became decadent and self destructive towards the end of their days. The Roman Empire is the best example. Not only that of course. Its the continuous giving up of Western values: Religion, democracy, tradition. The biggest debate is now revolving around gender issues, which is not only unscientific, but also shows how the priorities have changed. The gender issue is an artificial bone for us to chew on, while the West is steadily losing its leading role in the world.
@@DreadtowerNot a bad Starkey impression.
Any malcontent can tear things down. It takes a society to build things up.
Sometimes things do need to be torn down tho
@@Horizon344 eg UK Fascism
@@SunofYork That's already been done, there are other things that need it tho - like UK Trotskyism
@@Horizon344 Are you a fascist/hitlerist ? Come on and don't be coy or you will never make it to Gauleiter of Essex.....
Burn it down and start again. 🔥
Superb intellectual clarity.
Superb analysis as always. Thank you
Love the Holbein in the background the perfect picture to support the conversation. The message within the portrait is so apt.
I always laugh when British anti-monarchists say they want a Republic. They already live in Europe’s, and perhaps the worlds’s, oldest republic! A republic is a political system that has elected representatives to speak for the majority of its people. So long as the elections are honest, that is. Republics don’t have to have no monarch, be liberal or radical, or anything else except have elected representatives. The British sovereign has no legal powers, so what’s the problem? I can understand the value of having a ceremonial, apolitical, head of state, at least if they’re as great as the late Queen was. Whether or not to have a monarchy is up to the people of that country, not others to decide.
They obviously haven't read up on their British history either. The monarch was ousted once, a civil war between the Royalists and the Roundheads. The Roundheads won and things went so south afterwards that after around 10 years of just parliament control, the people proclaimed Charles II King again. So there was 10 years of civil war where many died, 10 years of new found authoritarian government, and then the public decided it was better how it was before and re instated the King. It seems historically when a mob is wound up by certain groups to enact change, things go bad, mobs are easily fooled by simply offering them dreams that target their selfishness or self preservation. But even when their is an organic uprising within the masses, the uprising is co-opted and manipulated by groups that want power and money (any Communist uprising for example)
@@kingcosworth2643 The education level's of the public at the time was considerably different to today, additionally communications are much improved so now you have a totally different result! The monarchy is dead it will shortly be buried.
Well said
Brilliant interview.
Many centuries ago, some of the wiser Romans must have seen the end times approaching but felt powerless to do anything about it.
The west seems to be in the same condition as the Western Roman Empire of around 425-450 A.D. They could not see what was coming. We can. Indeed, some of us are actively encouraging it.
Barbarians at the gate.
@theartfuldodger8609 Unfortunately, the barbarians are now inside the gate and are being assisted in their goal by deluded lunatics.
They did and they moved out of Rome. My extended family moved to rural Australia for this reason.
@@theartfuldodger8609When Rome fell the barbarians were already living in the city as economic migrants.
Dr. Starkey is the famous “high-church atheist”, in his words. May appreciate the history and beauty of the Anglican or Catholic Church services without being believers.
Our state is rotten to the core. We have attached ourselves to the bully of the World. We will bitterly regret this
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Not with my agreement and many others.
Actually, the great bully of the world is a British product. Take a deeper look into the history of British foreign policy for the past four hundred years and you will understand the deeper relationships between England and the US. USA is a continuation of British imperialism and the two nations cannot be culturally separated. It is very obvious when we observe their ambitious military endeavors. It becomes even more obvious when we examine the very close financial ties that have been established across the Atlantic. It is all one unified corporate entity pretending to live separate national identities ruled under the dual-party dichotomy that is making a mockery of democracy. In the Anglo-American world it is all about keeping the official discussion within certain bounds and narratives.
Great Britain is by no means the only bullish and aggressive nation in human history. A whole range of European nations have a lot of blood on their hands having raped and enslaved other nations and cultures to extinction for the past five hundred years. But the British became the most successful in maintaining their kind of superiority and cultural indoctrination over much of the rest of the world. The creation of USA became, in fact, instrumental in the next step to maintain this control and cultural influence over the world after the British empire had fallen. British culture and ways of doing business is still very much the order of the day across the world.
The multinational corporate elite of today draw much of their perceived rights to exist from the established order produced by Great Britain. So, when we hear representatives of British society complain about western values and culture being under attack we must understand where these people come from and what position in the world they like to keep and not loose. Arrogance is always the greatest hindrance to true understanding and insights. Arrogance knows many ways to portray its own superiority and infallible qualities. It knows its ways around eloquent speech and persuasive talk. The arrogant knows well how to maintain the control over the narrative and the direction in which they think development and progress should proceed. But when they feel that their authority is threatened or under scrutiny a very aggressive response emerges very quickly.
One of the most commonly used tactics used to deflate an undesirable development or discussion is to conjure up a new threat or reawakening an old enemy. How many wars during the past hundred years haven’t we seen being started for reasons that just doesn’t make sense, unless we understand whose controlling the world? It doesn’t take much scratching the surface to see what’s going on underneath. Who’s calling the shots? Right now all attention is on a group of military criminals called the Wagner group, meanwhile no-one seems to care about the very extensive and clandestine operations taking place, under our noses, by a the secretive US agency called BlackRock. And they like it to stay that way. Making us looking elsewhere while they continue to operate their sinister schemes for world dominance.
Believe it or not, there’s a whole world out there that doesn’t want to be ruled by the British and their culture of elitism, hypocrisy and false righteousness.
Also multiculturalism is a wilful minsomer for the reality that is multinationalism, to which those cultures are directly attributed.
Multinationalism is universalism/globalism.
The literal piecemeal eradication and replacement of the nation state.
I HAVE GAD SUCH AN INCREDIBLE EDUCATION LISTENING TO THIS BRILLIANT GENTLEMAN ;
IVE BEEN BINGE WATCHING HIS LECTURES AS IM OBVIOUSLY IN GREAT ADMINISTRATION OF HIM
The most important point Dr Starkey has ever made is what separates England from the rest of the world: we do not want to _tear down_ institutions, we want a part _within them._ The importance of this point is difficult to put into mere words, it is an instruction from the past of how we do things that is evidently useful.
for 200 years england has torn down countries around the globe. Yers, very useful.
I'm American and that's literally why there are these groups that want to take the Monarchy down because it is stable and can work in many different forms. Please don't get rid of it
@@Zadir09 King Trump would be awesome 🤣.
"Universal Rights are a nonsense....unless you believe in God". Well, yes.
For the record, I love England. My character has been formed from English values of reticence, fair play, "doing the right thing", adventurous enterprise, being a good sport.
"The ultimate product of PPE is Matt Hancock.". Now, THERE is a remark that resonates, for its depressing truth, and amuses at the same time.
" English values of reticence, fair play, "doing the right thing", adventurous enterprise"
I love that English lie. Sell it the masses and ignore for yourself (the English). Fair play? Loot. Reticence? Inner perversions and Victorian whorehouses. Being a good sport? Fight only when you have an advantage.
The English are the worst of the Europeans and one day when it is overrun, it will be fair play.
I felt uncomfortable with Starkey discussing Nuremberg considering his views on the vaccine.
We need reason, emotion, and a story, as I point out in my book St George and the Dragons: The Making of English Identity.
I take comfort and security in the fact that our leaders, executive, legislative, and judicial, are bound by a written Constitution which sets forth the limits of power of men. It's not a perfect system, nor are men angels, but the written Constitution defining three subsets of government, keeps men who would grab power in control. Starkey is defending a British Constitution created and defined by a thousand years of history. And his Constitution still lasts. I think that has something to do with the British people, who are mostly homogeneous, and largely virtuous. That we Americans are not, we are multicultural and often lacking in virtue, must constitute a danger the country.
I think most people in the anglosphere have the same basic values and virtues but i see generations coming up behind me that are not taught the same. The USA was made up of mostly europeans (natives notwithstanding) with the same values but the populations of both countries UK and USA are changing so values will change, i can honestly say the country i live in today is not the same one i was born in.
Very interesting conversation. Starkey brings T.S. Eliot into it but does not acknowledge that The Four Quartets is Eliot's great religious work and at its heart is the Anglo-Catholic perspective. Eliot''s thoughts in Little Gidding were awakened by the place "where prayer has been valid." History in England is rooted in her thousand year history as a Catholic country, so devoutly Catholic that she was known as "Mary's Dowry." "The intelligentsia always know enough about religion to distort it." Bishop Fulton Sheen.
The protocols of the Catholic Church are diametrically opposed to the Bible. Britain was truly Christian before Augustine tricked the church in handing the reins of control over to a Pope (itself a title not found in Scripture but in paganism) who in turn held Europe in darkness to a millennium and a half. The birth of the Reformation was in England with Wycliffe's translation of the Bible into English - something banned by Catholics. England prospered as it was not as controlled by Catholicism as other European countries.
Thank you, that was an enlightening conversation
I love this dude so much. 😊
Dr Starkey's commentary on GB News was magnificent.
Lord Starkey to give him his deserved title
Well done David excellent historian
Great show, thank you very much 😐
The coronation script struck me as completely divine-right, too. As did not inviting parliament. Charles focused too much on the emotional aspects and inclusivity.
The fact that that "National Conservatism" outfit uploaded online every major speaker's speech bar Starkers' - which is the one every1 wanted to listen to - indicates what type of body it is in terms of intellectual seriousness.
Intresting to hear this. I wonder who is funding this movement?
@@evolassunglasses4673 The conference was organised by an outfit called 'The Edmund Burke Foundation', based in Washington DC, it's apparently funded by American-Israelis. There's a link to them supporting Trump's bag-of-hot-air nonsense as well. Seems they didn't dig what Starkers' had to say. Possibly they want Capitalism/"Conservatism" without any ethnicity orientated thinking (other than Zionism, which they appear to have a financial interest in intellectually advancing), & Starkers crossed a red-line with them in that speech they blacked out.
Civic nationalists, like the SNP.
@@smythharris2635 Despite the name SNP are Socialist
I would love to hear David's thoughts on the Okd Testament. I was honoured to have studied at New College and opted for OT and Near Eastern studies. I was fascinated to learn about the polemical content of the OT. I again was honoured to have studied in the original languages of Hebrew Greek and Ugaritic.
Two of the finest speakers in Britain today
Great stuff and stories too.
“A Dane, but a remarkable man.” Nice
Gove the Blair emulator has much to answer for!
This was fantastic
Disagree with Starkers' novel point about the nature of a Republic not inherently excluding a monarch, it does. England isn't a Republic it's a constitutional monarchy, where the Crown has always operated under the constraint of law & custom going back to the origins of the English before they crossed the North Sea in the 5th Century. See Tacitus' Germania' (A.D. 98) for the nature of this system, and how the tribal kings' power was qualified by interaction with the people in meetings (called "moots"), which in turn follows thru in due course in England to the 'Witan' constitutional system. This system was suppressed for a while but not successfully eradicated by the Norman kings, and reappeared in the form of the Parliament at Westminster after they had passed into history.
Is this where the phrases "to render something moot" or "to make a moot point" come from?
@@jeremylindemann5117 Yep
Similar as Elective Monarchy in Polish-Lithuanian Kingdom. Monarch accepted duty to guarantee freedoms, mostly for nobles but nobles numbering whopping 10% of population
Ah, Western Civilization! Mahatma Gandhi was asked what he thought of Western Civilization.
His answer "I think it would be a good idea."
A true English man. Bravo. Sir.
it seems that it is a taboo to question belief systems built on subjectivity over empiricism.
Dr Starkey: What you have omitted in your analysis of the Coronation, is that it was - first and foremost - the Coronation of the King of ENGLAND! The crown used, by the Primate of all ENGLAND (a jealously guarded prerogative!) was St Edward's Crown (THE 'Crown of England'). Scotland and Wales have their own crowns. Charles III receives homage as King of England. He then retires to the Shrine of St Edward the Confessor, where - without ceremony - the Crown of England is exchanged for the, lighter, Imperial State Crown of the United Kingdom; which is what is worn in that splendid procession, and return to Buckingham Palace. St Edward's Crown will not be used again; until the Coronation of William V.
Nope.
All the crown jewels were originally English. The Imperial State Crown is as English as St. Edward's Crown.
@@davidpnewton According to the official guidebook to the Crown Jewels, two new crowns were commissioned in 1660; a replacement St Edward's Crown, and an Imperial Crown. The latter was always much more embellished with "more and larger gems" than the Coronation Crown. But the Imperial Crown reflected the sovereignty over Ireland, and other territories. The present ISC was commissioned in 1937; and was a re-modelling of Victoria's. Suyre, they're both the product of English craftmanship; but 'THE' Crown of England is the coronation crown; 'St Edward's Crown'.
@@Mark_Dyer1 you misunderstand "imperial". It has nothing to do with anything other than England. Imperial in that context means vassal of no one. Nothing to do with Ireland. Nothing to do with the British Empire.
@@davidpnewton David, there was no Empire in 1660; but Charles II was King of Ireland, King of Scots, (and still claimed France).
@@Mark_Dyer1 irrelevant.
I have told you what the word imperial means in this context. You have ignored what I have said and continued to make false claims.
There are only a limited number of conclusions which can legitimately be drawn about your actions. None are flattering for you.
I would love to hear more about 1603 and 1707. I read that it was a Scottish noble who married an English aristocrat in Essex who sold Scotland to the English monarch. An announcement took place outside Holyrood. I don't know much more therefore that's why I am asking. Thank you.
I like Starkey but why does he always misquote Jefferson. “All men are born free and equal.” Jefferson never said that. Or at least, the Declaration of Independence doesn’t say that.
He’s dancing around the underlying truth without hitting point
Remember what Voltaire said ?
When an "expert" strays into an area where you have knowledge and says what you know to be untrue, you should be skeptical of what they say about things outside your experience. Mangling the American declaration of independence and then publicly criticizing what it does not say is inexcusable for a historian.
Would like to hear your views on the Blair reforms.
" 800,000 Muslims voted for Brexit" -- to reduce the number of Europeans in the UK presumably.
Superb
Is there a good book on the English Constitution or its legal history. Mr. Starkey's citations are illuminating.
The French don't seem to sit as still for it as the British do when their political class and business leaders walk all over them. Who is the modern French version of Thatcher?
Fantastic
The upper class and civility have barely a nodding relationship.
I didn't get the notification for this video
0:40 Love Edmund Burk "Reflections on the French Revolution".
Thank you for the history ❤
Jesus ❤
Sir Doctor David Starkey. Historian.
Hope someone is willing to learn from the past!
The western down fall of today Mr Starkey is further undermine by the "gay" movement!
As usual absorbing and fascinating from David Starkey ... always ove his analsyes. But the title of this video is misleading isn't it?
As a conservative I have dutifully read Burke. I too found it tediuus.
Money was important in the "glorious revolution" 1689 but this was not mentioned
57:05 most profound portion.❤
The only thing we do well here is the black market. A-PTG without a manufacturing base means importing substandard goods to undercut our own exporters. hs2 is fraud written as law but the poor shoplifter who is hedging against inflation just like the city does deserves life without parole for 3 offences. Your hubris is a great source of amusement btw paying yourselves like masters of the universe while being unable to build a short stretch of railway.
Hello David , how is Ringo?
I wish that a few million was the "views" number- or many. many millions would be better.
I have a different conception of the exact root of Western Civ but that’s beside the point. My slight problem with his obviously brilliant and renown opinion and his Protestant rhetorical style and approach is that, how can one save a civilization that (supposedly)requires four years of discourse to roughly outline? Do average citizens have that sort of abundant spare time? Maybe he’s far more concise in other presentations… BTW, “Western Civ” was also deeply influenced by Egyptian, Near East, Nordic Uralic and E. Central Asian civilizations.
I am a firm believer that all ancient texts have relevance to contemporary life.
All are BORN free. All.
Thank you very much for this insightful interview. Sadly, the interviewer is terribly insecure.
Robespierre was a lawyer.
So was Freisler
Anybody know who this Dane is (whose name he can't pronounce) at 17:17? Trying to follow this talk with citations for further learning, is difficult.
Jacob Mchangama
@@Hesperian1 Much appreciated.
Just because some radicals in the 18th century called that "the pinnacle of reason" doesn't mean it was. Starkey is a smart man and I like him a lot, but he often only cites the radicals of the side he's opposing, not the moderates or scholars.
"won't get fooled again" by The Who is a warning against revolution.
Stop taking orders from the lizard people 😢
Yes, by itself.
The English constitutional system is capable of self-improvement, but also of self-harm. I would argue that it is experiencing a period of self-harm at the moment. Perhaps one of the transplanted and augmented systems - that of Australia or Canada - could be considered to be now superior, and might be copied?
I'm Australian and our constitution is planned to be changed to allow the courts to confiscate private property, by introducing the Aboriginal Voice to parliament.
When our government legislate new laws why do they not seek advice from men like David Starkey who have far more knowledge than some of the hacks they listen to.
Except he argues for the Tudor Revolution from above. Which is a repudiation of the Plantagent establishment, which relied so much for its legitimacy on papal authority. The Tudors aimed to kill every member of that dynasty, even though Henry VII had founded his own legitimacy on his dubious membership in that dynasty. One reason why he was desperate to produce a male heir, since Mary through her mother was undoubtedly of royal blood.
Can universalism be separated from the notion that 'one size fits all' ?
Can universalism be separated from the notion of a 'monopoly of ideas' ?
Can universalism therefore be seperated from the imposition of a single idea or dogma ?
Does it matter if that imposed idea is based upon collective objective reality or personal subjective fanatasy ?
aka. The truth vs dogma vs My truth.
Especially in the era of the philosophy of the three monkeys as opposed to that of redemption.
But I guess that boat sailed with the debates at the very beginning of modern christianity.
Nations are defined by race and ethnicity and religion. Within this comes the ideology.
Nice ring
RIP England. You have been demographically replaced.
I seem to remember a bloody civil war, followed by the return of monarchy which again proved itself too autocratic, followed by the monarch's deposition, and finally the threat of a foreign invasion and the importation of a foreign (Dutch) monarch to establish the laws and the system of real parliamentary monarchy, with the monarch firmly bound by the laws of land which this gentleman would have us believe just grew "organically" and all by itself from the inherently democratic spirit of Englishness.
I thought we were all grown ups here.
How about deprivated тайна переписки?
Whose idea was it to have footage of Peter talking to camera and music playing over him - it looks stupid. Peter is anything but, he deserves better.
The Dane he mentions, what is his name, does anyone know?
He's talking about Jacob Mchangama
@@Hesperian1 thank you
Funny how he aligns with authority absolutely whilst proclaiming to be a democrat.
Income support is a sucure benefit with national insurance number surely I can't be made to change it's all about income support 🙌💯 I'm not a migrant😢