The Cost of Concordia by Internet Historian | First Chicago Reacts

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  • @NaruSakuIsLovez
    @NaruSakuIsLovez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    Because the crew kept the evacuation on hold so long and they had just a few life boats on use, people had to wait and started to panic. Some decided to jump and try to swim instead but bc the ship was still listing it caused vortexes in the water and took people who didn't have lifejackets underwater. Many died also still inside the ship, at least 10 to 12 people got stuck in elevators and drowned there when they lost the electrics. Saddest for me was the 5 year old girl and her father who were told that there was no room in the lifeboat and that they had to go to other boat in different area. Ship was already listing badly and when they left to find the other lifeboat, they fell into the corridor and drowned.

    • @mckenzie.latham91
      @mckenzie.latham91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Also when they ran aground on the coast they started tilting so far that the lifeboats couldn’t be properly lowered, so those few they had already lowered/launched had to be used as ferries

    • @Fordo007
      @Fordo007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Geez… to die by the same Titanic ‘no room’ issue? How surreal.

    • @k.v.7681
      @k.v.7681 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Fordo007 I mean, 15th century, 20th or 21st, once you loose the electrics you're on the same "boat" as previous centuries. It's a floating things that's sinking.

    • @Alias_Anybody
      @Alias_Anybody 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The issue was that when they started evacuation, the ship was already leaning so heavily the boats on one side couldn't be used any more. If they started only half an hour earlier they could have saved at least half of the people who died.

  • @CassieJo
    @CassieJo ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I know everyone talks about Gregorio de Falco, the Deputy Mayor of Giglio, the poor crew member that died saving passengers, and that brave engineer trying to keep the fan from causing a fire, how all of them were heroes. They were and are still heroes, but there's one person that everyone always forgets in this whole situation: that woman who knew something was up and called her daughter back on the mainland. If she hadn't done that, there would be a lot more dead people in this story. Let's give this woman a W in chat, shall we?

    • @johnarat9618
      @johnarat9618 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh yeah!

  • @mckenzie.latham91
    @mckenzie.latham91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    The part where they mention how the parent company who owned the cruise ship only paid passengers the bare minimum required by law shows you how much they gave a shit about their customers, their tragedy and their safety.

    • @CChissel
      @CChissel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      That goes for 99% of companies and corporations. A dollar is more important to them than another persons life.

    • @nodezsh
      @nodezsh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@CChissel Small niche companies with small clientele just might care about their customers.
      But obviously, if you have enough money to build and manage such a huge ship, you're not small. So cruises are just generally out of the question. Don't drink and drive, kids.

    • @garr_inc
      @garr_inc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CChissel Welcome to modern capitalism.

    • @CruelestChris
      @CruelestChris 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@garr_inc
      Yeah, if it was communism we wouldn't have any survivors to worry about in the first place. They'd "disappear" and within a year it wouldn't have happened at all.

    • @garr_inc
      @garr_inc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CruelestChris
      Don't confuse terms. You assume authoritarian rule is communism, despite it not being the case if you did some research.
      ... Although I don't suppose a simple man will spend his valuable time checking out information that conflicts with his bias. That would be "a waste of time", right?

  • @mysticsalmon
    @mysticsalmon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    You should try and react to "Randy Buys a Bookshelf off of Gumtree" It's a 20 minute video, I think it would be fun!

    • @Oracios
      @Oracios 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Better yet, the entire act it's from.

    • @brycealthoff8092
      @brycealthoff8092 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That bit is the shit

    • @Mortal2064
      @Mortal2064 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeeeeeeesssssssss

    • @babyface214
      @babyface214 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hell yeah

    • @forkittens
      @forkittens 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes please. feltface is great. "walking to sky" is a great book, I highly recommend.

  • @Chloe-it3sf
    @Chloe-it3sf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When they said they weren't enough lifeboats, they meant the port side lifeboats were effectively made unusable due to the ships starboard list (tilt)

  • @jesuszamora6949
    @jesuszamora6949 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    For the most part, you're on point, but they HAD to get that ship out of there. Would YOU want that shit on YOUR beach?

  • @rinslittlesheepling1652
    @rinslittlesheepling1652 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    44:30
    Well, 16 years and 1 month is more than enough for someone of his age. He is 60 now, and he still has to spend 10 years in prison. So he will be a 70 y.o. May sounds cruel, but his live is already past behind. He is old, and I don't think in a good health either (prison, party life style and obese before that as well).

    • @mckenzie.latham91
      @mckenzie.latham91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Actually it isn’t 16 years it’s almost 30, his original sentence was to be 16 years and 1 month until he appealed and the appeal position they took was so bad he got even more time with 26 years

    • @okairo
      @okairo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@mckenzie.latham91 Not quite. The prosecution originally wanted 26 years, but the sentence was reduced to 16 years, and the appeals were simply denied. (Internet Historian goes more into this on his extra details video for this) Assuming he's on good behavior, he can be out sooner or on house arrest at a certain point.

  • @slycooper5278
    @slycooper5278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    1:46 After she said that, I giggled way too loudly.... the foreshadowing

  • @oldgreggsmadmemes4431
    @oldgreggsmadmemes4431 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love how I got a carnival cruise ad for this lol great video guys

  • @MagicalMaster
    @MagicalMaster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The man gets his facts straight and he has a sense of humour, there're worse ways to learn things.

  • @jehoiakimelidoronila5450
    @jehoiakimelidoronila5450 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    They better find and apprehend the helmsman who DOESN'T speak *ENGLISH.*
    He's also accountable for the whole trouble to happen in the first place.

    • @LorgeDelta
      @LorgeDelta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree, but also I think he's the least accountable regardless of him being the one on the wheel. He is essentially a paid servant who was bought by a cheap company that wanted cheap labor. I think full/a majority of the accountability should go to the criminal company that managed to shake the responsibility through a one million dollar plea deal. It's like hiring a child who has no idea what they are doing to build a skyscraper. You can't blame the kid when the thing collapses and kills people. You blame the people that thought it was a good idea to hire cheap labor for an important project.

  • @sandpiperr
    @sandpiperr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There were enough lifeboats for everyone, it's just that by the time evacuation was ordered the ship was tilted so much that some were unusable because they were at too much of an angle to be lowered into the water.
    It's really lucky they were close to shore.

  • @wolfbane7497
    @wolfbane7497 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My anxiety would have flared up immediately as soon as everything started to hit I would have started telling people that we're all going to die

  • @BNuts
    @BNuts ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Scattino was actually a competent enough captain, with all the proper certifications (it's apparently common for those with certification and experience to take on other positions while they wait for captaincies to open up), but he crumbled under crisis. Also, every modern ship would have equipment for measuring depth and distance, but they had to turn those off for the sail-by salute, or they'd also be flagged for performing an illegal move. Finally, the sail-by salute is said to have been a favour for the maitre d (why he was on the bridge), as his sister lived on the island. This was supposed to be a cool favour for them. The results were far less cool. Certainly the bulk of the blame lies with the captain, but all his bridge crew shares some responsibility as well, for not following proper procedures and everything. Crew elsewhere also had some responsibility. Like those who were supposed to sweep the ship for survivors in the case of an evacuation.
    Many lessons were learned, and changes made, because of the _Titanic_ , and a few of those helped to reduce the death toll on the _Costa Concordia_ . But when hubris and pride walk, mistakes will often happen. Costly mistakes. That said, _Costa Concordia_ is far from the worst maritime disaster of the last 50 or so years. Look up the collision between the Dona Paz and the Vector. The Paz was a converted ferry that had been well overloaded. She was sailing without certification, and most of her crew was partying drunk. The Vector was an oil tanker, again without certification, and with a single unqualified intern at the helm.

  • @MuteObserver
    @MuteObserver 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Absolutely love this reactor! I would love to see more of her. 💜🌸

    • @solmoman
      @solmoman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I mean she's quiet, yawning, is barely awake.. Finally I can watch Internet Historian without someone yapping over the video

  • @jakkaphatkaewthong3352
    @jakkaphatkaewthong3352 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I would recommend stupendium music if you haven't already.

  • @derpmcgerp8062
    @derpmcgerp8062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:31 "collaborate and LISTEN"

  • @Ike_of_pyke
    @Ike_of_pyke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    RagnarRox "A love Letter to Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines" & "A (late) love letter to Vampire: the Masquerade - Redemption"

  • @volt8477
    @volt8477 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You guys should react to “why you should watch/read berserk” by super eyepatch wolf.

  • @apollomcdonald
    @apollomcdonald 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sonia is one of my favorite members of Chicago reacts along with Kit.

  • @pazz1239
    @pazz1239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Half life full consequences. A great epic if you ask me

  • @vedantshastri8799
    @vedantshastri8799 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please i want u guys to react to zanny i love you all

  • @Retrovorious
    @Retrovorious 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You guys should react to some JonTron videos. I recommend his video about Dark Dungeon. (Edit: I see there’s a reaction of it already) LoL… so I guess I’m just asking for more JonTron. His video about weird workout videos is also good.

  • @charlie11boy
    @charlie11boy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can Sonia react to oversimplified amercian civil war part 1 and 2

  • @UnlicensedOkie
    @UnlicensedOkie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’ve only been to Chicago once in my life
    Y’all’s airport is way too damn big
    And they canceled our flight
    Did stay in the embassy suites though
    So I can’t complain too much

  • @ramezhachicho1777
    @ramezhachicho1777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just fyi these guys were a serious bunch of clowns. Don't go on cheap cruises. There's a reason why they cheap XD Also there's been cruise problems since the titanic. But NOTHING this bad.

  • @DavidRomigJr
    @DavidRomigJr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In defense of the captain, he had captain qualifications before being promoted and the accidents were not that bad and were dramatized for effect (though they did happen). He did do the sail-by correctly and the correction to miss the rocks correctly and had others not failed the crash wouldn’t have happened. The crash was a failure on multiple layers. Carnival had not maintained the ship leading to one the water-tight door failing, evacuation training for passengers was to-be done the day after the crash instead of before sailing, the third officer was not relaying locations and even spoke over the captain, et cetera.
    However, once it turned into an emergency, the captain was just as bad at that as he sounded. He took all the blame, and he did fail a lot, but there should have been judgements against multiple people including Carnival.
    Cruise sailing is safe. My parents did them multiple times in later life before my dad passed away. This was a fluke of cascading failures. That can happen in any walk of life, though this one was exceptionally spectacular, and sad.

  • @res20stupid
    @res20stupid 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys should watch some funny moments from Judge Rinder (the show featured in the edit abotu lawsuits). It can get hilarious.

  • @Native_Beats_
    @Native_Beats_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was going to say, don't let this video spook you from sailing. but cause of the coof, yeah that's fair. I was gonna say before that this is one of the largest naval catastrophes to ever happen.

    • @CruelestChris
      @CruelestChris 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One of the largest to involve an ocean linear and happen during peacetime. There are some _staggering_ ones related to evacuation ships in WW2, particularly in Russia.

    • @Native_Beats_
      @Native_Beats_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CruelestChris oui

  • @Makser-pm2jm
    @Makser-pm2jm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Please react to Bricky "Frostpunk Review Frostbite. Steam. The British." It would by very nice

  • @Ac7iv3d.
    @Ac7iv3d. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the bikelock fugitive of berkely from internet historian.......
    plz......... pretty plz

  • @latinwolf3348
    @latinwolf3348 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you react to Vlad The Impaler fron Biographics ?

  • @poppag8281
    @poppag8281 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really wish you spoke more and provided commentary during this video "reactios" like this are basicaly freebooting content without adding anything transformative

  • @davidkim0924
    @davidkim0924 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best Sovietwomble video, watch Random Arma Bullshittery (part 9) s'il vous plait.

  • @foxsotired3038
    @foxsotired3038 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You missed the reason why, there weren't enough lifeboats.

  • @kawami_kiden5928
    @kawami_kiden5928 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    can you guys react to more scp its a content mine

  • @TheManKnownAsAi
    @TheManKnownAsAi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    SuperEyePatchWolf's "What the Internet Did to Undertale" would make a hilarious reaction video

  • @luissantiago5163
    @luissantiago5163 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh oof

  • @MagnusMFX
    @MagnusMFX 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    noice

  • @rogueannoyance3489
    @rogueannoyance3489 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should react to Recreyo

  • @TaliZVasTyria
    @TaliZVasTyria 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not to be rude....but she's probably one of the most passive reactor to an internet historian video. Pls get someone else

  • @vjexmixv
    @vjexmixv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    you should watch "the funniest Minecraft video ever" by tommyinnit

    • @solmoman
      @solmoman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      that was the shittiest idea I've seen this far

    • @vjexmixv
      @vjexmixv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@solmoman no criticism, a thoughtless comment that doesn’t help anyone. Be useless somewhere else😊

  • @sz5042
    @sz5042 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Person A: "Why does the USA have such high prison numbers?"
    Person B: "Because other countries legal systems are a fucking joke. Places like Japan refuse to label anything a crime intentionally, and places like EU give 1-4 year slaps on the wrist"
    Person C-Z "I'm not listening!!! LALALALA!!!!"

    • @solmoman
      @solmoman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right, thanks.

    • @Alias_Anybody
      @Alias_Anybody 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not like the US love to lock up wealthy people who commited manslaughter either. The difference in prison populations are not some Captains who crashed something but poor druggies.
      Oh and btw. if the Japanese authorities are actually confident you did something you WILL go down, no chance to wiggle yourself out even with the most expensive lawyers.

    • @CruelestChris
      @CruelestChris 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Alias_Anybody
      Looking at the data, if Japanese authorities are confident you did something you'll confess to doing it, which I'm sure has nothing to do with how long you can be detained without charge.

    • @Anztoxic
      @Anztoxic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      9 months late but, don't like 60% of prisoners in the USA return? because they can't fit back into society due to American Prisons being a joke?

  • @neoxperson7858
    @neoxperson7858 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If your mentality is "I'm not going on a cruise ship, because something can happen" then you shouldn't get into a car because "something can happen" when driving. Or hell, don't even go outside, because "something can happen".
    such a dumb way to think.

    • @vsk2377
      @vsk2377 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      But drowning to death sucks

    • @quantum5661
      @quantum5661 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      yeah but im not gonna fucking drown in a car because cars arent boats

    • @scotthadden9816
      @scotthadden9816 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@vsk2377 So do car crashes, so do plane crashes, so is inclement weather. Her mindset is "don't do X, no matter how safe it is, or at least, no matter how safe it has been made, because bad things might, not will, happen." By that same logic, you shouldn't eat for fear of choking.

    • @vsk2377
      @vsk2377 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@scotthadden9816 nah bro lol

    • @andrewhopkins886
      @andrewhopkins886 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Congratulations, you have discovered something that basically everyone already knows, "not all fears are rational". Now take this knowledge and spread it around because apparently there are still people out there who don't get that.