Honest 2nd Review of the Disney Wish - Disney Cruise Line
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- Join Tom Corless and Eric Morton for an honest 2nd cruise review of the Disney Wish. Tom's previous review promised a second follow-up visit, and we did it.
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What is your favorite Disney cruise ship?
Will answer this after they build the Cygnus. "Fun to the Max!" ...imillian.
@@fifthrider I would go into crippling dept for a chance to go on a Black Hole themed cruise! Also for a Muppet Treasure Island one, which is a huge missed opportunity to actually use those characters in a significant way.
The current / last / next one I'm on.
The Disney Magic remains my favourite of the DCL fleet.
Magic. Aqua Dunk is a blast for all ages, great itineraries in Europe, small size, less crowds, and personal favorite is Keys bar.
I always love how you guys talk about both the perspective of someone coming from a distant place, another country and etc, as well as the perspective of someone who lives nearby. A lot of other ppl forget either one or the other. I know it's a small thing but it just makes the review feel so much better knowing you're considering all that.
Can we please have more reviews with Tom and Eric?? What a great duo!
"where the changes were mostly focused on money" - what a great summary for everything Disney has done over the past few years
Focused less and less on a good guest experience and more on the cash "rake."
Riviera of the Seas was a perfect way to describe what this new ship sounds like. Thanks guys.
I like the updated thoughts and the additional perspective on the boat. An experience like this can be significantly impacted by who you travel with and a few high or low events so I liked that you were open to having new thoughts with the second trip
I have Covid and I am so miserable and cranky and this video is bringing me so much comfort. I could listen to you two talk about anything. Thank you, Tom and Eric💗💗💗
Our pleasure. You got this!
Your review of how they choose what goes on at the bars sounds like it would fit a lot of Disney projects in general. There isn't a concerted effort to sculpt the most impressive outcome possible, it's more like "let's throw this at the wall and see if it sticks." That works with food experiences, architecture, ride development, merchandise, shows and so on. Sometimes you review something small but end up with a review that reveals a template for Disney corporate thinking overall. If you're walking into a bar where their drinks are "Meh, serve this to the people and see if they complain" then you've just peeled back the curtain to observe the man at the controls making the decisions.
It is clear that they made the ship much easier for the crew, and I am fine with that. If I have to check the map ahead of time to see which way that I need to go, that is not a big deal to me. I always enjoy my cruises. I am thrilled to be on a ship where I can relax and not worry about anything. I plan on having a great time on my upcoming Wish trip.
just keep talking guys. my family and I just lost our pet of 9 years, and in this moment, you two talking about the ship and disney stuff helps. thanks guys
Great review! I still cannot get over seeing footage of one of the head people who designed the wish saying that have zero experience with designing ships.
Eric is such a delight.
Another thorough review! Love the dual review. I always felt the Dream and Fantasy were to the Magic and the Wonder as Disney World (pre Chapek) is to Disneyland. This ship seems like it’s just our current version of Disney World- it’s still fun, but we know it could have been better because we already experienced better from them in the past.
Hey Tom and Eric! I was on the cruise with you guys (said a Hi while in line for the Frozen dinner....thank you for being so gracious). This was my family's second Disney cruise. My kids loved it. My wife and I enjoyed it very much, but we were not blown away like on our first cruise. Not sure if this was problems with the Wish, or just "the second cruise isn't as novel as the first." We are going on the Wish again later this Fall with my sister and her family. They've never been on a cruise before, and so it will be interesting to see what their experience is. Also, I'm looking forward to going again, and seeing what's been improved. (Food at Marvel, please).
1923 was a huge failure for us. The room was horribly cramped and the kitchen was terribly slow. We were still getting food when they had already turned up the lights (the clue to "get the hell out of here")
Yikes
What you said about the movie theaters would make sense if Disney actually used the two theaters to show different movies. However, they show the exact same movies at the same time, with a 15 minutes difference between the two, completely negating the necessity of having two separate movie theaters. On our four night cruise there were only five movies shown the entire time!! Thor, Dr Strange, Zombies 3, Lightyear and Encanto. That’s it. All day long in both theaters simultaneously.
Also, as someone who cruises for the onboard activities, Luna and Triton are just awful…Luna is way too small for the activities they hold in there, and the upstairs seating is ridiculous, because if you get stuck up there you’re not part of the event at all, there’s no way to participate up there, as opposed to the much bigger venues on the other four ships where everyone can be part of the fun.
The Triton space in tiny, and every activity I went to there had guests standing and crowding the entrance due to minimal seating.
Regarding animation classes onboard, while on the other ships it’s a great experience with a CM teaching you how to draw, on the Wish it’s a CM pushing play on a video…so you’re sitting in front of the equivalent of a TH-cam video.
Encanto was only added on after there were complaints. They had two showings of it back to back on castaway cay day.
Agree same shows 15 mins apart was pointless
Wow Eric, we’re you really in the Marines? Wow! Thanks for filling in on the cruise. It’s a tough job but someone has to do it.
I think it was a mistake to get rid of the virtual portholes for the inside staterooms
Tom, your ability to recognize music is amazing! The entire reason I started listening to WDWNT years ago was because of the Super Obscure Show!
Thank you for your review. My family and I actually loved the ship. We have also sailed on the Dream. My wife is not a big Disney fan and after sailing on the Wish she was sold onto booking another cruise. I do think there some things Disney can easily fix to make the ship better like the Elevator bottoms and more shows in the lobby. More digital artwork finders. I did miss the miniature golf course but I actually liked the lounges and cafe salt and peppered all over the ship. Made the ship feel festive an alive. I think construction techniques has gotten much better over the years. On the Dream there a lot of uneven floors were you can tell were the sections were welded together. I actually think the Oceania Club is better on the Dream because their more play structure areas besides empty rooms with exterior walls with props or buttons. My biggest complaint is there no Boys theme area. I have 10 girl and 5 year boy. They're really not much to do for Boys if you think about it. All the floor theme is princess. Why not incorporate both like Tarzan and Jane for a cabin theme or maybe Pinocchio, or lion King or something if you want to keep it to Classic. I also think their a lot of empty space that can be utilized better like the table tennis room, they can add some arcade games or seating booths.
Thumbs up. A reservation to get into the bars, the bars spread out, stand in line to make the reservation,, nahh not for us.
The Elvis coffee was amazing LOL
I don’t care who you are, Tom is a BAD ASS 🫡
I 2nd this! 💕😂
The Wonder is and will always be our favorite.
I am sorry if I missed it, but was the boat more show ready on this sailing as opposed to the previous sailing? The only thing I noticed between the two was that your Olaf animatronic was working this time versus the last time when it was not. Also regarding the staff shortages, I have to wonder if a large number of the crew are coming down with Covid as restrictions are lifted, and as you know it is impossible to avoid crowds on this ship in particular.
We rode the Wish in October amd spoke with the main host at dining whose been a Disney Crew Member for years. He said Disney did not cover them during COVID so many of the crew got other jobs and were not keen to go back to a company that dropped them so easily.
I don't understand why their are no magic portholes it's such a werid omission since they are so popular
I’ve sailed on the Magic. I’ll sail on the Wish in April. Thank you for comparing ships! I look forward to taking your suggestions!
"I didn't like that they didn't use a straight razor."
"You're on a seagoing vessel!"
I'm picturing a new dining option: Mrs. Lovett's Meat Pies.
Thorough, enjoyable, informative. Thanks y’all!!!
Your review is dead on. Old fashioned tasting was marvelous. Lounges are too small for most activities. Concierge staff were inattentive due in part to the large number of Concierge rooms and cruises are short
How do you feel about the Disney Treasure that will be debuting next year being like the Disney Wish but with some changes like the dinner shows and more?
I get the feeling that the wish is called that because you wish it was better.😁
Can't wait to see your Enchente review!
I dont take a cruise to see a movie that I can see at home
Tom, the Disney Wish is a horribly designed ship. So much cost-cutting and removing non-revenue spaces. The elimination of the fully wrap-around sheltered Promenade Deck is bad enough but the removal of the midship lifts is a disgrace for a ship that size. And the narrow corridors. It has CEO Bob Paycheck all over it. Even worse is that there is a sister to the Wish on order. Paycheck will remain as CEO until guests start responding with their wallets. Apparently the Disney Board of Directors is quite pleased with him in spite of him destroying any goodwill that Disney had left.
You are correct about he will be in control for a long time because people are still spending thinking they will get the experience of what Disney used to be, until people stop spending, and even then it will take awhile because he will have many excuses before they finally realize the man in control has ruined what Disney was. Sad very sad. We stopped going to Disney a few years ago and go to Universal, we cruise but don’t even consider going on Disney. The money they charge for the experience they provide at parks, resorts and cruises does not equal what you can get with other companies.
Two sister ships to the Wish you mean.
@@mindyschocolate Three Wishes? That is horrible news. I had thought only builds 5 & 6 were Triton-class. Didn't know which class build 7 was, and heard build 8, Disney's Queen Elsa ocean liner to compete with Cunard's QM2, was cancelled later in 2020 during The Blip.
hey tom I was on your cruise nice running into you in arendale
Eric's whiskey knowledge is invaluable.
Hey Tom, first of all, the Disney Wish is a Ship, not a Boat. I have not yet been on the Wish, and actually I have never been on the Dream since we like longer sailings. These three and four day sailings are not worth it to us. We are still big fans of the Magic and the Wonder and have been on both multiple times. Obviously, we have made it to the Platinum level. Not in a big hurry to make it on the Wish. (Going on the Dream next summer in Europe.)
I had an incredible cruise on the wish this past weekend. Only my second Disney cruise, but it was way better than my cruise on the Dream.
I enjoyed the experience, really enjoyed the layout, and had the best service I’ve ever had on a cruise.
I think that most Disney fans freak out when any change take place, and a lot of the complaints are because this ship has changes compared to the others.
We always stay in an inside cabin. It's GREAT!!!
Where did Tom get that MGM Water Tower pen holder?? It's so cool!!
where did you get that oswald shirt?????????????????????
Tip: if you get stuck on the couch request a foam topper…so much better. It was short.
Too many steps to adult area and who thought the ladder into the infinity pool was a good idea🥴 the elevators to 12/13 need to have a separate button. The best pool for adults is chip and Dale on 14…more steps 😩
Every time the elevator was full someone pushed all the buttons. Also no mud ship elevator…ok, but stop blocking the mid stairs 😏
I had a great time but you can tell Disney is cutting back on quality and selling out to those ridiculously large and always empty high end jewelry shops🙄
Love Eric’s Shellback insert. YUT!!!!!!
i personally loved the wish, I thought it was perfectly laid out and easy to navigate. It was only 3 nights but I couldn't have asked for a better experience. I don't understand the hate it gets, I don't think it would be smart if all the ships were carbon copies of one another. It's good that they are all different. if you didn't like the disney wish, I feel so sorry for you because you missed out on an amazing experience.
The Riviera of the Sea. Who is it for? People who want to spend the most amount of money to see the newest thing, which isn't better, but is new, those are the people who should go.
That’s a great viewpoint. Frankly, I don’t know why people like The Riviera hotel. I’ll be sailing on the Wish in April.
We visited the Riviera in early August while doing a Skyliner tour. I was seriously unimpressed other than the artwork in the breezeway to the Skyliner.
The lobby was so bland.
It’s a beautiful ship but my goodness the adult area is just pathetic on the deck. One hot tub on the ship is mind blowing.
Bars like the Bayou don’t make sense being wide open like that. Immersion doesn’t work unless you are enclosed in the theming. It just looked sad in there but would have been so cool as a nightclub tucked away like on the Fantasy
The shorter the cruise, the more you pay per day. Three day cruises are more profitable for cruise lines than seven day cruises.
Oh and Eric your beard is awesome!
Can you comment on where the best level and position of stateroom (forward, mid, aft) is preferable on the wish
Thanks for the review. I might try the Dream on my next cruise now.
I could not stay in that type of cabin-too claustrophobic.
I love reviews like this! I’d like to see a review comparing ALL DCL ships by you guys.
Hi, my name is Belen. I am a huge fan of WDW! I watch you from Argentina, and learn a lot of disney culture but i have a recuest please add spanish subtitles!!! It would be awsome.
🍋prettiest lemon I ever saw
What is the equivilent of the Meridian bar from the Dream on the Wish? Where do they have the Whiskey tasting nights?
The Rose is probably the closest, as it's the bar outside Palo/Enchante.
Magic is Amazing
RE: Eric's comment about no straight-razor in the barber shop. Edged blades? Like knives? Eric is saying they don't use straight blades b/c its an edged weapon. I'd think paying thousands for a cruise would root out the nutters, but if so, they can just grab a knife from the food areas? Or are all the knives butter?
My comment was more about safety of using straight razors while underway on a ship,l. mentioning “edged weapons” was more a pirate joke, since we were talking about Hook’s Barbery. Not a concern about it actually being used as a weapon.
“FOOD AT CASTAWAY IS INEDIBLE”
Talk about food snobs
I think any honest comparison between Castaway Cay food and Coco Cay (Royal Caribbean) would show that RC really beats Disney in this area by a wide margin.
For the cost No way is it worth it. They need to bring the price down. We were guests on
it and it is wayyy overpriced...the way the parks are going!
Great review guys!
Glad you enjoyed it!
My wife and I went last weekend (the 19th - 22nd) and we saw the third show, Aladdin, which was excellent. It was the Seas first night (2 shows), then Little Mermaid second night (2 shows), then Aladdin the final night (2 shows). We thought Aladdin was the best, and the Seas 2nd. Little Mermaid was meh for alot of the reasons you said.
Thanks for all the input and advice!!!!! Do you need a reservation for Hook’s Barbery if you just want to grab a drink???
No. It opens at 5:00 and anybody can go in to order a drink.
Was the ship better finished than the first trip? eg: painting done, wrappings off, etc
Tom with Eric is better than Tom alone.
Let him speak!!!
With the Little Mermaid Stage Show on that ship do you think it’s possible not all of the props and such have made it aboard yet? I mean it’s evident around the ship that not everything is completely finished so thinking maybe not everything has made it that should be there for that show?
everything was there, it's just a really poorly staged version of the show. Not even up to a good community theater.
@@batshevanivylerner8582 really? That is how it is supposed to be?
@@kathleensuhy1875 no that's definitely not how it's supposed to be. The Little Mermaid show that used to be in Hollywood Studios was far far far superior to what they have on the Disney Wish.
Disney Wish. One hot tub for 3600 people, with loop sound playing behind you? No thanks.
we HATED the wish
did you guys go to the same world of marvel resturaunt as me?? imo the writing was pretty bad and if they released that on disney plus i'd be pissed.
For hyperspace do you talk to guess service on the app or is it select time choice
I've heard other reviewers saying that the bartenders there were sending people to guest services. That could of course change.
Cruise snobs really bent by hallway walls in concierge is insane
Please go on and on! You guys are great!
Tom,is there any chance that you would appear on The Dis or Pete appear on your show? Thanks, Kevin
I think the ship's security regulations forbid anyone possessing a straight razor. I've had a shave on other vessels, I've never seen a straight razor in use.
They’re not printing out the navigator? Panic attack.
You mentioned that you hardly felt the ship move. I’m very sensitive to sea sickness, and that’s my biggest hesitancy for doing a cruise. Any idea if it’s common to get sea sick on these types of ships?
90% of being sick is a person focusing on it. The best way to not feel seasick is to distract yourself from it. I don't usually feel the ship move unless it really gets moving. I think that looking out at the water makes it worse since your body is doing something different then what your eyes are seeing. If you just focus on having a good time and not feeling sick, that is half the battle. Find some motion remedy that works for you, either pills or sea bands, etc.
Most people are fine on these ships. A midship inside stateroom on the lowest deck will feel the least movement. Upper deck staterooms far forward or aft will feel the most movement if there is any. Modern cruise ships have fin stabilisers that are like wings to help prevent this. There is almost always movement when sailing through the passage between Port Canaveral and the Bahamas. If you are very sensitive, start taking your meds such ss Dramamine the day before you sail and you should be fine. If it's severe, usually you can get a jab onboard that is very strong!
@@denizalgazi The modern ships have very little noticeable movement. They would have to be in 10 foot waves for a person to tell any difference in ship location. I don't know why people are still saying that there is any difference in locations on these ships.
For me it depends on where I sail from. Sailing from Canaveral I didn't notice a thing. Sailing from Texas and California was not pleasant for at least a day. Bring the patch, and other motion sick medicine options just in case and you should be fine.
When asking a question about sea sickness you have to be careful about who’s answering you, because people who don’t suffer from it don’t get it. My husband and I suffer from sea sickness and love cruising. We wear Sea Bands and they allow us to cruise without trouble for the most part. However, when cruising you do need to take into account that the ship can start rocking depending on the winds and the sea conditions. We’ve been on many cruises where people online swear there’s zero motion but we had evenings where the pool water was sloshing right and left, as were we walking down the hallways. So you have to bring with you whatever helps you battle the sea sickness. We also make sure to only book midship rooms, that’s where the movement will be felt the least, and where possible we’ll book a lower deck.
"show more different things" really? they showed 3 movies the entire time. All they showed was lightyear, thor, and dr strange. Nothing else. just alternating between the two theaters. Really really really really irritating.
Does Tom ever wonder if Chapek has his picture posted with the warning, make this man miserable? He always ends up with much worse experience than others. I do have to say, after seeing a young couple with a small child on The Wish. It looks awesome. Perhaps the idea of the WISH is to cater to the kids and young teens and not the adults.
I would peruse the comments on the first review, most agreed. I don’t see how children would have a bad time, and I don’t know that I said I had a “bad” time, I just said it was my least favorite ship lol
@@WDWNT I don't doubt your reviews and very often most agree agree with you. I just wondered if the cast change things up for WDW. I can certainly imagine Chapek putting a wanted poster with a bounty on your head in the service areas. 😂😂I sometimes think the same for Pete, especially since like you, he doesn't pull any punches with his reviews.
*Disabled* kids would have a miserable time. Privileged/oblivious kids might have fun...
If *ableism* and *discrimination* is Disney's new message... mission accomplished. 🤷
The accessibility fails on board were extensive and appalling, especially for a ship supposedly built for severely ill & often disabled kids (Wish kids, from Make-A-Wish).
YAY! More Eric!!!
Question: what food options were available for free on the Disney Wish? Obviously the Disney Wish has the restruants and buffet which are included in your meal along with the pool deck food and ice cream.
I remember a dessert and coffee bar on the Dream and Fantasy that was included with the cruise. I also remember the pirate buffet and dessert buffet which were included with the cruise price. Anything like that on the wish? Was there a sushi bar like on the Fantasy at Cabannas? What food stood out on the cruise that wasnt an add on cost?
The Cove no longer gives free desserts with your beverage on the Wish, sadly.
I feel like any information about the Wish was so long awaited and then everything was so hyped up by Disney that it was difficult to live up to. I feel like you would want people to be pleasently surprised but it seems expectations are either met or guests are disapointed. I am still looking forward to my trip on the wish but my expectations are a little better managed.
It honestly doesn’t have to do with that. The ship is just poorly designed.
2 dudes one cruise
"Upcharge ship" yet not remotely in the realm of something like The Haven on NCL.
$1200 to sleep on a couch?
Just returned from the wish. Can confirm, food was pretty terrible.
For Hook's, if you have a 1pm appt can you not get a drink?
Correct. The bar does not open until 5:00 PM.
Woah Riviera is not Wish. Riviera actually an improvement by getting a smaller consolidated full resort. Riviera is also not about upcharge basically at all as you don't even have a Spa there and their Quick Service is one of the best at WDW.
Big swing and miss on that comment IMO.
Spot on. We just got off the Wish on Friday. It was our fifth Disney cruise having previously been on Fantasy and Magic. It was not only the worst Disney cruise experience we ever had but the worst cruise experience on any line. Service was sparse and curt, the food was borderline inedible to just passable, the little mermaid show was terrible and there were no other shows and many of the ships features were not available, not ready (Uncharted not ready, Aladdin cancelled, etc.). Many areas with broken fixtures and malfunctioning aspects. Rip off.
Lines for everything even the shops and the taco bar line was to mid ship most days. Aqua mouse was constantly down. They ran out of items in the shops. I will write a lengthy review. State rooms and bathrooms were a nice upgrade. End of list.
More! More!
Is there a review of the buffet?
Not yet, it’s coming
My favorite theme park reviewer did the disney wish and he hated enchante restaurant. personally from what i have seen on youtube even if i was rich i wouldnt do it. for those prices i want to choose what i eat and get an actually meal and not tiny tiny tiny ass pieces of food or that stupid foam
How... seriously off-putting/exclusionary/insulting that "Enchante" dictates the menu with zero options or substitutions... so scr*w everyone who has food allergies, sensitivities, are vegetarian/vegan, celiac, lactose issues, are kosher/halal...
Or simply don't LIKE the enforced dishes.
Who chose to push PORK of all things, with no opt out?
And for The Rose "lounge" to have ZERO alcohol-free options... What a massive failure.
From what we've seen of the two "upcharge" restaurants on the Wish, they are a complete waste of money & time.
What a total disappointment for Wish families too.
We've heard from other Wish families loads of negative feedback about accessibility issues/exclusion/"unavailable" resources that were pointed out/bragged about but NOT FUNCTIONING/and everything for the non-press families was "not working yet".
Disney shorted WISH FAMILIES on the ONE vacation they may have (we're a former Wish family. Most WFs can't take vacations).
To neglect or ignore accessibility features on the Wish, in 2020s is INEXCUSABLE. Wish kids were awkwardly used/exploited for MARKETING purposes - the "launch", but not actually welcome or WANTED on board.
Like the ridiculous focus on the SLIDE from the lobby that a disabled child can't use. Or use the STAIRS. But an elevator? You'll have to hike to the far away elevators.
How ableist.
There's not even a lousy Wish family Lounge, like in the parks, or ANY inclusion of the (supposed) "ship Godparents", Wish kids.
Oh, except a TINY portion of a FEW items for sale.
BIIIIG deal. More USING Wish Families, but not INCLUDING them.
And no shaded deck for strolling or jogging?
What a failure, erasing one of the few remnants of Walt.
For a ship that supposedly wants to "include" sick & disabled kids... the "forgotten" details for the sake of shoving profit... APPALLING.
I don’t get why jaded, grown adults are reviewing something that’s clearly not aimed for them. I don’t have much interest in the Wish because it’s not targeting me.
Is the Easter Eggs video the guided tour one?
The Easter Egg video is still being edited. There are over 300 pictures for the editor to put in there. We expect it to be ready in the next 24 hours.
@@WDWNT holy moly! Ok, thank you for responding. I'm looking forward to it!!
When will the Easter egg video come out?
Soon
Magic
So….who is this ship even for? Too expensive for families and there are MUCH better options if money is no object.
Windowless rooms??!? NOPE.
What about the BINGO!!!
Yeah once I heard him ask "are you even a real disney fan" I'm out. People who believe there are only real fans and fake fans are the type of "fans" places dont need. Idc if someone has been to Disney once or a million times they are all Disney fans
@@buster5661 I'd believe it if it was just said once but then he doubles down saying real fans want to talk about all the details. I dont think that was being ironic
@@buster5661 my first comment explained why