I was 16 when I first saw this movie and fell in love with Corelli. Three years later I saw him in Fanciulla and got his autograph. So fantastically handsome, so much more that any photographs. Later I saw him in Chenier and Tosca when that "Vittoria" melted me. I couldn't move.
I envy you as well. I never saw these Italian opera movies until just recently as I love them. Franco Corelli is a perfectionist and sets the highest standard in singing and acting. The voice with Power and beauty
Bonjour merci pour ce magnifique cadeau notre beau tenor y est resplendissant tant la voix unique que ce superbe physique bravos et merci vraiment ❤❤❤❤❤
Introducing my husband to opera Corelli was his instant favorite. He said "I believe every note he sings." There are some beautiful voices that lack expression, making them dull. Corelli has both to the ultimate.
I think this film is to see Franco Corelli! I have it on dvd but this looks and sounds better. He was something else in looks and voice. Thank you for this.
Первую оперу я увидел в провинциальном театре во времена СССР. Тогда я был мальчиком и опера не произвела на меня никакого впечатления. Называлась она "Князь Игорь" композитор Бородин. Но если бы я попал на этот спектакль, то навсегда бы полюбил оперу, точно бы плакал и переживал. Сюжет простой, понятный зрителю, по времени недолгий и не утомительный. Пуччини великий мастер, а певцы само совершенство!
This plot is still much more complex then the movies we have today. lol Opera is certainly great when have great voices and good drama to showcase those voices.
Bello Corelli! Grazie per questo grande regalo. Ascoltarlo già è molto ma anche vederlo è meraviglioso! Credo il più bel tenore mai esistito. Una voce unica capace di trasmettere emozioni forti come pochi altri. Film bello tutto comunque. ❤❤❤❤
Wow! Thank you so much!!! This is going to make sharing this opera with friends so much easier-not to mention not having to stick to a libretto until I either learn the opera or Italian! :)
WOW! Love finding these gems! Thank you for sharing. I love also being reminded of singers I know were legends like Guelfi. Forgot all about him and am always impressed by his voice.
Vito de Taranto logró un retrato fabuloso del sacristán, reproduce las indicaciones de la partitura al cantar y hacer el gesto de un hipo. El fue también el sacristán en la versión anterior de la RAI (1955), con Franco, Renata Heredia-Caopnist y Carlo Tagliabue.
Yes, it is also great to have something from Guelfi, that are not that many studio type of recordings from him. And he had an absolutely amazing voice!
I didn't know you're new to opera movies: I've known about them since I saw the shot on location 1976 Tosca movie for the 1st time in 1977 when PBS 1st aired it. Earlier that day I saw a trailer for it; the only one that showed Tosca jumping to her death, during a one minute break between Sesame Street and Mr. Roger's Neighbourhood. I've been a Puccini fan ever since, even if he's not Mahler or Wagner. Keep enjoying opera movies!
What a pity and shame on the producers of this movie they did not obtain Maria Callas for the main part ! She was at the peak of her career at that time, instead we must listen to a soprano long past its zenith played by an affected opera singer. What a nonsense! We could have had at least one documentary of the divine partnership of Maria and Franco. Pity, pity, pity......
Wonderful to see a pretty decent film of TOSCA. All that is missing is Callas but any number of reasons for that I guess. Though one may miss Gobbi as Scarpia Guelfi‘s voice more than makes up for it + the actor who is dubbed by Guelfi is perfectly acceptable for such a definitive operatic melodrama as this. I wonder why they could not use Guelfi in both capacities as he was one of, if not, the most awesome Scarpias during this time, IMO. No one, of course, could match Gobbi for subtlety in characterization but the actor here, like I said, does a decent job & Guelfi‘s voice is the perfect instrument for this role during this period. The actress for TOSCA though is at least sufficiently glamorous which is a + as well. A fine Covent Garden TOSCA with Milanov, Corelli, & Guelfi was presented a year after this film & the sound of Guelfi‘s voice is predictably awesome. Ditto for Corelli & Milanov in one of her best late career performances. Thanks for posting.
Agreed, exactly with your sentiments. I think this is the best Tosca video, if you consider the voices. It is shame someone like Callas could not have been part of the cast. If you can't get Gobbi, then Guelfi is the next best thing, as you said his voice is perfect for Scarpia. My guess is that they didn't use Guelfi because they wanted an older character, and Guelfi was still in his early 30's at this time. That is really the only reason I can think of. Apparently for Franka Duval who plays Tosca, she did not know the role, that is why her voice wasn't used. She did start singing Tosca after the movie. The Covent Garden Tosca is great!
It is unbelievable that Caniglia was chosen to sing Tosca, she was out of form for at least 5-7 years before 56, but I can understand,: the depth and the color of her voice is not possible to match, except Maria..
yes, Caniglia was a really great Tosca even though she is past her prime. But the best Tosca was Callas. A Callas and Corelli film would have been perfect.
The AI still needs some work. But this is a very difficult movie to enhance, the lighting within the scenes are constantly changes and original movie had a very high green filter. But hopefully someone else can some day to a better job them me to fix it. Or the AI might improve.
Yes, it is fine. It is not going to be like big production Hollywood movie (thank goodness). The voices are always the most important in opera, and you will not find a Tosca movie with better voices. The costumes at least don't look cheap. In some opera movies the costumes can look very cheap. No historical movies or stories ever have the absolutely correct costumes that corresponds with time period.
That is very true, especially with experienced singers. Singers sometimes cover before the passaggio or slightly later. Experienced singers can move their passaggio a bit, it doesn't have to be set in stone. It obviously helps if you know the singer very well. But the easiest way is to listen to the notes in their vocal range in a sequence, you can much more easily hear where the passaggio is then. Here are two examples: Mario Filippeschi: th-cam.com/video/yUq7RMVvewg/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ZubairHossain Franco Corelli: th-cam.com/video/2NmJ810Qz1U/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ZubairHossain It is somewhat easy with these types of tenors, they generally just cover at F#4. If you are a singer trying to determine your own 2nd passaggio, it is just where your voice will naturally switch over to falsetto. Of course the more experienced you are the more accurate it is. Here is a great example, obviously not opera, but you can clearly hear how the voice breaks into falsetto at G4; th-cam.com/video/u89m1O-C-Yk/w-d-xo.html He sang high notes mostly in full chest voice, that is a very high risky choice for live singing, you will get some occasions, such as this example where the falsetto will overpower the chest voice when you try to go over the passaggio with all of that weight on the voice.
@@ZENOBlAmusic I already know my 2nd passaggio to be at E4, making me a lyric baritone. I somewhat suspected it to be around there even before I started taking voice lessons. Now the reason I asked you how to find others' passaggio was just so that I could have fun in classifying contemporary singers (though most of what I do is opera).
@@bradycall1889 Yes, I used it before because it is a nice example that you will find very rarely. It can be more difficult to hear the passaggio with baritones and basses, because these are more uniform types of voices. Some people obviously believe that basses don't even use their passaggio in opera. The more you listen to many singers the easier it would be to identify the passaggio. But it is much easier to hear the difference when you can listen to the notes in a sequence. You can also choose popular arias or parts where the singer needs to sing a high note, or past the passaggio and you can listen to that part and and note and compare it to others. All baritones will sing Largo Al Factotum, there are G4 notes. It is great that you are taking lessons. A lyric baritone is a really nice type of voice, you can achieve great elegance and lyric baritones usually have great tone of voice.
'Remastered' and gone under water, but okay, we don't live in Afghanistan, anyone may experiment with buttons and random programs and post the 'results' :). So, now we finally have this Tosca in canned audio as an animated video travesty lol. A final (and true) compliment for the great, razor sharp subtitles, I'll give you that 😅
It was my first attempt, so it is not the best. But there was some very big problems with the original film. The original film was very green and dark in colour which was a pain to get rid off. The original sound was completely messed up it was pitched too high. The original sound of this film is completely unusable. The problem is that the sound wasn't exactly a semitone off it is somewhere between a semitone and a full tone. There are two other versions on YT where the sound is also pitched corrected and they also don't sound right. I likely would have been able to something better with the sound today. But I doubt it will ever be much better except if it was done by a real sound engineer. Look at my more recent Pagliacci, I think that it is much beter, although the sound on that one was also a pain to try and fix and it was not 100% fixable. Hopefully my efforts will inspire someone else to do a better job in the future, someone might simply be so irritated that they would do something better. The original; th-cam.com/video/8R7BZbWQx8U/w-d-xo.html
Not much point in substituting actors for singers if they can't act! The Tosca might have been carved out of wood, and Scarpia had the most unconvincing laugh in stage history! The costumes were of course atrocious (what did I expect of the 1950s?) Still, the musical level was pretty acceptable, as was Corelli.
The "actors" they used wasn't really actors, They were all singers themselves, so it is quite strange decision to overdub them. Afro Poli who plays Scarpia was at the end of his career, so perhaps they felt his voice wasn't quite what they were looking for. Franka Duval who plays the Tosca did not have time to learn the role, she did sing the role later on. Maybe their acting would have been more convincing if they had sung themselves. This project was full of strange decisions, but apparently it is the first opera movie done in colour.
Maria Caniglia grande soprano, x quanto riguarda Corelli ricordo che ha inaugurato 6/ 7 volte il teatro La Scala e ben 13 volte il Metropolitan di New York, 2 prime le ha saltate x impedimenti familiari sennò erano 15.
Producción italiana, eso explica gran parte lo que mencionas, un technicolor bastante deficiente. En esos años pocas películas a "color" se habían producido en Italia. Franco Corelli un año antes filmó otra Tosca, con cantantes ahora sí actuando, para la RAI, en blanco y negro.
@@FranciscoArvizuH No, no. Me refiero a la restauración. Quien la hizo usó seguramente algún software de correccion con IA sin aplicar ningún criterio y quedó una payasada. El video digamos original que anda dando vueltas por TH-cam es muchísimo mejor que esto. Una lástima
![Bellini: Norma - Callas, Corelli, Ludwig, Zaccaria, de Palma, Vicenci, Serafin (1960) [Subtitles]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/IwiFz7XKJiw/mqdefault.jpg)
I was 16 when I first saw this movie and fell in love with Corelli. Three years later I saw him in Fanciulla and got his autograph. So fantastically handsome, so much more that any photographs. Later I saw him in Chenier and Tosca when that "Vittoria" melted me. I couldn't move.
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I envy you as well. I never saw these Italian opera movies until just recently as I love them. Franco Corelli is a perfectionist and sets the highest standard in singing and acting. The voice with Power and beauty
The handsomest tenor with the most spectacular voice!
Only wish to live inside a house to watch this LIVE, thank you for getting the full movie.
Bravo㊗㊗㊗
Bonjour merci pour ce magnifique cadeau notre beau tenor y est resplendissant tant la voix unique que ce superbe physique bravos et merci vraiment ❤❤❤❤❤
Maravillosa voz Franco corelli me entusiasma bravisimooooooooo
Introducing my husband to opera Corelli was his instant favorite. He said "I believe every note he sings." There are some beautiful voices that lack expression, making them dull. Corelli has both to the ultimate.
King of Kings Correli...
I think this film is to see Franco Corelli! I have it on dvd but this looks and
sounds better. He was something else in looks and voice. Thank you for this.
Первую оперу я увидел в провинциальном театре во времена СССР. Тогда я был мальчиком и опера не произвела на меня никакого впечатления. Называлась она "Князь Игорь" композитор Бородин. Но если бы я попал на этот спектакль, то навсегда бы полюбил оперу, точно бы плакал и переживал. Сюжет простой, понятный зрителю, по времени недолгий и не утомительный. Пуччини великий мастер, а певцы само совершенство!
This plot is still much more complex then the movies we have today. lol
Opera is certainly great when have great voices and good drama to showcase those voices.
❤❤
Bello Corelli! Grazie per questo grande regalo. Ascoltarlo già è molto ma anche vederlo è meraviglioso! Credo il più bel tenore mai esistito. Una voce unica capace di trasmettere emozioni forti come pochi altri. Film bello tutto comunque.
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Finally, this production of Tosca with the corrected pitch! Thank you for posting!
Tosca
C. Gallone nei filmati. Ha scelto sempre splendide voci e personaggi grandiosi bravissimi tutti grazie ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Semplicemente meraviglioso
❤❤ Corelli. Il più grande di tutti i tempi
Bellissimo...
This is spectacular. Thanks a million.
Corelli, bellissimo!
At the time Guelfi’ s power is unmatched!
Meraviglioso !!!
Браво Корелли🎉
Bravooooo!!!!Graciaaaaaaaaassssss!!!!
Wow! Thank you so much!!! This is going to make sharing this opera with friends so much easier-not to mention not having to stick to a libretto until I either learn the opera or Italian! :)
Grazie per la visione di questo film: Tosca. Corelli il
meraviglioso, divino tutto
Muchas gracias por este aporte INVALUABLE!!!
Thank you for writing the subtitles - it makes it very nice to watch!
Che meraviglia! Grazieee😍😍
WOW! Love finding these gems! Thank you for sharing. I love also being reminded of singers I know were legends like Guelfi. Forgot all about him and am always impressed by his voice.
Vito de Taranto logró un retrato fabuloso del sacristán, reproduce las indicaciones de la partitura al cantar y hacer el gesto de un hipo. El fue también el sacristán en la versión anterior de la RAI (1955), con Franco, Renata Heredia-Caopnist y Carlo Tagliabue.
Powerful
I think opera movies are quite fun!
Yes, it is also great to have something from Guelfi, that are not that many studio type of recordings from him. And he had an absolutely amazing voice!
I didn't know you're new to opera movies: I've known about them since I saw the shot on location 1976 Tosca movie for the 1st time in 1977 when PBS 1st aired it. Earlier that day I saw a trailer for it; the only one that showed Tosca jumping to her death, during a one minute break between Sesame Street and Mr. Roger's Neighbourhood. I've been a Puccini fan ever since, even if he's not Mahler or Wagner. Keep enjoying opera movies!
@@Paolo8772 Makes sense
To. Sing Scarpia after Guelfi is not possible
Yes! he is the Scarpia.
Tito Gobbi disagrees
What a pity and shame on the producers of this movie they did not obtain Maria Callas for the main part ! She was at the peak of her career at that time, instead we must listen to a soprano long past its zenith played by an affected opera singer. What a nonsense! We could have had at least one documentary of the divine partnership of Maria and Franco. Pity, pity, pity......
That would have been absolutely perfect. It a shame in general there a very few films of Callas and Corelli.
Wonderful to see a pretty decent film of TOSCA. All that is missing is Callas but any number of reasons for that I guess. Though one may miss Gobbi as Scarpia Guelfi‘s voice more than makes up for it + the actor who is dubbed by Guelfi is perfectly acceptable for such a definitive operatic melodrama as this. I wonder why they could not use Guelfi in both capacities as he was one of, if not, the most awesome Scarpias during this time, IMO. No one, of course, could match Gobbi for subtlety in characterization but the actor here, like I said, does a decent job & Guelfi‘s voice is the perfect instrument for this role during this period. The actress for TOSCA though is at least sufficiently glamorous which is a + as well. A fine Covent Garden TOSCA with Milanov, Corelli, & Guelfi was presented a year after this film & the sound of Guelfi‘s voice is predictably awesome. Ditto for Corelli & Milanov in one of her best late career performances. Thanks for posting.
Agreed, exactly with your sentiments. I think this is the best Tosca video, if you consider the voices. It is shame someone like Callas could not have been part of the cast. If you can't get Gobbi, then Guelfi is the next best thing, as you said his voice is perfect for Scarpia. My guess is that they didn't use Guelfi because they wanted an older character, and Guelfi was still in his early 30's at this time. That is really the only reason I can think of. Apparently for Franka Duval who plays Tosca, she did not know the role, that is why her voice wasn't used. She did start singing Tosca after the movie. The Covent Garden Tosca is great!
Maria Caniglia è stata una grande Tosca.
Not Canigula, CANIGLIA. One of the greatest Toscas.
@@AulicExclusiva yes! Missing something here, esp. missing Callas, is like missing a pebble in your shoe
It is unbelievable that Caniglia was chosen to sing Tosca, she was out of form for at least 5-7 years before 56, but I can understand,: the depth and the color of her voice is not possible to match, except Maria..
yes, Caniglia was a really great Tosca even though she is past her prime. But the best Tosca was Callas. A Callas and Corelli film would have been perfect.
i love this movie and opera but i hate that trippy ai filter thing that just makes everything look like some weird oil painting
The AI still needs some work. But this is a very difficult movie to enhance, the lighting within the scenes are constantly changes and original movie had a very high green filter. But hopefully someone else can some day to a better job them me to fix it. Or the AI might improve.
А что не так с актерами, нормально они играют. Что касается костюмов, то они соответствуют той эпохе.
Yes, it is fine. It is not going to be like big production Hollywood movie (thank goodness). The voices are always the most important in opera, and you will not find a Tosca movie with better voices. The costumes at least don't look cheap. In some opera movies the costumes can look very cheap. No historical movies or stories ever have the absolutely correct costumes that corresponds with time period.
Now how do you determine the passaggio of a singer? Sometimes people’s cover techniques are so good that it’s hard to tell sometimes.
That is very true, especially with experienced singers. Singers sometimes cover before the passaggio or slightly later. Experienced singers can move their passaggio a bit, it doesn't have to be set in stone. It obviously helps if you know the singer very well. But the easiest way is to listen to the notes in their vocal range in a sequence, you can much more easily hear where the passaggio is then.
Here are two examples:
Mario Filippeschi:
th-cam.com/video/yUq7RMVvewg/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ZubairHossain
Franco Corelli:
th-cam.com/video/2NmJ810Qz1U/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ZubairHossain
It is somewhat easy with these types of tenors, they generally just cover at F#4.
If you are a singer trying to determine your own 2nd passaggio, it is just where your voice will naturally switch over to falsetto. Of course the more experienced you are the more accurate it is. Here is a great example, obviously not opera, but you can clearly hear how the voice breaks into falsetto at G4;
th-cam.com/video/u89m1O-C-Yk/w-d-xo.html
He sang high notes mostly in full chest voice, that is a very high risky choice for live singing, you will get some occasions, such as this example where the falsetto will overpower the chest voice when you try to go over the passaggio with all of that weight on the voice.
@@ZENOBlAmusic Oh yeah didn't you use that in one of your videos about Freddie Mercury?
@@ZENOBlAmusic I already know my 2nd passaggio to be at E4, making me a lyric baritone. I somewhat suspected it to be around there even before I started taking voice lessons. Now the reason I asked you how to find others' passaggio was just so that I could have fun in classifying contemporary singers (though most of what I do is opera).
@@bradycall1889 Yes, I used it before because it is a nice example that you will find very rarely. It can be more difficult to hear the passaggio with baritones and basses, because these are more uniform types of voices. Some people obviously believe that basses don't even use their passaggio in opera. The more you listen to many singers the easier it would be to identify the passaggio. But it is much easier to hear the difference when you can listen to the notes in a sequence. You can also choose popular arias or parts where the singer needs to sing a high note, or past the passaggio and you can listen to that part and and note and compare it to others. All baritones will sing Largo Al Factotum, there are G4 notes.
It is great that you are taking lessons. A lyric baritone is a really nice type of voice, you can achieve great elegance and lyric baritones usually have great tone of voice.
@@ZENOBlAmusic Thanks!
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'Remastered' and gone under water, but okay, we don't live in Afghanistan, anyone may experiment with buttons and random programs and post the 'results' :). So, now we finally have this Tosca in canned audio as an animated video travesty lol. A final (and true) compliment for the great, razor sharp subtitles, I'll give you that 😅
It was my first attempt, so it is not the best. But there was some very big problems with the original film. The original film was very green and dark in colour which was a pain to get rid off. The original sound was completely messed up it was pitched too high. The original sound of this film is completely unusable. The problem is that the sound wasn't exactly a semitone off it is somewhere between a semitone and a full tone. There are two other versions on YT where the sound is also pitched corrected and they also don't sound right. I likely would have been able to something better with the sound today. But I doubt it will ever be much better except if it was done by a real sound engineer. Look at my more recent Pagliacci, I think that it is much beter, although the sound on that one was also a pain to try and fix and it was not 100% fixable. Hopefully my efforts will inspire someone else to do a better job in the future, someone might simply be so irritated that they would do something better.
The original; th-cam.com/video/8R7BZbWQx8U/w-d-xo.html
Not much point in substituting actors for singers if they can't act! The Tosca might have been carved out of wood, and Scarpia had the most unconvincing laugh in stage history! The costumes were of course atrocious (what did I expect of the 1950s?) Still, the musical level was pretty acceptable, as was Corelli.
The "actors" they used wasn't really actors, They were all singers themselves, so it is quite strange decision to overdub them. Afro Poli who plays Scarpia was at the end of his career, so perhaps they felt his voice wasn't quite what they were looking for. Franka Duval who plays the Tosca did not have time to learn the role, she did sing the role later on. Maybe their acting would have been more convincing if they had sung themselves. This project was full of strange decisions, but apparently it is the first opera movie done in colour.
Maria Caniglia grande soprano, x quanto riguarda Corelli ricordo che ha inaugurato 6/ 7 volte il teatro La Scala e ben 13 volte il Metropolitan di New York, 2 prime le ha saltate x impedimenti familiari sennò erano 15.
No quiero ofender, pero el video se ve absolutamente horrible... creo que es una falta de respeto, parece una película animada de Disney...
Producción italiana, eso explica gran parte lo que mencionas, un technicolor bastante deficiente. En esos años pocas películas a "color" se habían producido en Italia. Franco Corelli un año antes filmó otra Tosca, con cantantes ahora sí actuando, para la RAI, en blanco y negro.
@@FranciscoArvizuH No, no. Me refiero a la restauración. Quien la hizo usó seguramente algún software de correccion con IA sin aplicar ningún criterio y quedó una payasada. El video digamos original que anda dando vueltas por TH-cam es muchísimo mejor que esto. Una lástima
@@aosperoni Nunca había visto este filmación porque estaba acelerada en el audio. Ahora sí está en pitch correcto. Había mejor imagen ,es cierto.