The amazing thing about Super 8 is just how timeless it feels. Like, really the only true giveaway of when your footage was shot was the MacBook in view - other than that, a lot of this looks like it could have been shot even in the 1970s or 1980s. And it just really makes it feel that much more like a memory, especially since the short running time of Super 8 kinda forces you shoot just really quick clips of life but that’s what lots of memories are anyways: just small bits of moments from our lives that we remember.
Back in the 1950’s in Australia cameras and especially movie cameras were out of the average person’s price range: Most people were working hard and it just didn’t occur that memories were worth saving: So so sad. Enjoyed this episode very much thank you
Nothing has changed price wise in Australia, either hey Brian!! Still film, movie film, super 8 is all pricey and scant for places to get it processed. Typical Australia..bloody end of the earth...
@Bender & Xing - Abel Adventures That was really uncalled for bender: I just purchased another movie camera with three films: I have an extensive collection of both film and movie cameras. If you read my comment again you might see I was commenting on cameras when they first came out. So few could afford them: And if I’m not mistaken drug habits are more costly than film development: Most of which I do myself, but not movie film:
@@darkcustomxxx7252 It’s not that bad : Movie film developing is expensive and unfortunately most can’t afford the price, but one now and then keeps the nostalgia alive. All the best
I wanted to get into shooting 8mm film for years and finding your channel made me finally do it. I got myself a Bolex Zoom Reflex P1 standard 8 (or double 8 however you wanna call it) camera and I absolutely love it. In contrast to digital it requires you to be much more conscious about the things you’re doing, the decisions you make and that made filming something special again. I also really like the fact that you get something physical out of it that you can actually hold in your hands. I like to think of it as "materializing memories"
Super 8, it just takes you back in time. Isn't it amazing that the equipment, now around 40 years old, works just as well today. Modern stuff ends up in landfill after a few years. Loved the video, very nostalgic.
I shot Super8 surf movies in the '70s, when I lived in Australia. I used a camera called a Nalcom FTL1000. What was unique about it was you could remove the 10x zoom lens, then with an adaptor attach another lens. I had the adaptor for a M42 (Pentax) screw mount. Attaching a 135mm lens would give you the equivalent of a 500mm+ lens, but you needed a decent fluid head tripod, which were super expensive back then. I always shot on Kodachrome Super 8 film, which included processing. The camera got stolen on a surfing trip, along with my Nikonos water camera. I lent my finished film to a surf club to show, and never saw that again either. I recently bought a couple of them on eBay relatively cheaply, and one even had the Pentax adaptor, which are super rare. Still not shot anything with them because of the usual reason. Too expensive.
A real beauty for a beginning camera. Reminds me of my Bauer C 2 M which didn't have a foldable handle but it had 24fps speed option which was the reason why i wanted it. And it was this camera i used to shoot my first 2 rolls of super 8 film with it. It was back in 2006 when Kodachrome K40 was really phasing out because the Kodak Laboratory in Lausanne Switzerland was to be closed and i shot my 2 rolls over the course of several months. First i tried to see if it even worked, sending the cartridge in these paper bags to Kodak. And then a few weeks later i got my developed K40 back. Then i knew i HAD to get another roll. That time in 2006 was my first ever personal Super 8 experience and i LOVED it :)
Show us more of your super 8 cameras! I’m still way too confused and scared to pick a model to buy and it helps a lot. Buying a super 8 seems a big commitment, specially because there’s no lab to develop 8mm film in my country, so I figure I would shoot several rolls at once before sending it somewhere else to develop them, and if they all came back ruined because of a faulty light meter or something, it would be a huge disappointment... Great video and thank you for all the info :)
Here in the UK we've been in Lockdown for three weeks and have just began another three. Your content has been super entertaining during this time where my photography has been limited. I hope you are safe and continue to make such great and entertaining content. You help me to learn alongside my College (Now University) course and I am so glad to support you on Patreon. Stay safe and keep up the good work💛
This is so cool! I have a bit of a hard time realising that 2013 was 7 years ago and not like a few years ago... Despite the price, I really want to dive into Super 8 film. I was tempted to make something like a short film at home relating to current affairs, but I don’t know about the idea... EDIT: (30/6/2020) I’ve bought a Sankyo LXL-255 and also am gonna try Vision 3 500T soon!
Very cool, I think many people started in the same way you did. They jumped off the cliff, shot one roll of Super 8 and were hooked. It doesn't take long to transition from super 8 to 16mm and eventually 35mm. Heck, I have a friend who owns a 65mm camera and is one of the only privately owned camera systems in the world. My first moving image camera was a sears super 8 camera from the 60's that my dad bought for me from a yard sale in 1987. A year later, we found a Elmo Super 8 camera and projector combo at another sale and that was the camera my entire childhood was shot through. Of course, I was always the operator, so not much footage of me, but it's still great to look back and see the past through the lens of a 12 year old. Sadly, the final year of Kodak sound on film was 1989 and once it was impossible to get sound film anymore (1991 ish), I switched to video. Had sound film existed longer, I probably would have stuck it out with super 8 for longer as well, but I really wanted sound and the cost for used video cameras was dropping in price, so I had many used video cameras. I continued shooting film over the years, but only on commercial shoots. I have yet to make any home movies on film since 1991. Today I own many motion picture cameras, but mostly commercial one's.
I was brought here by film photography, which has become quite a big interest for me in the last year. I like the sense of "responsability" it forces you through, since not only you're, basically, "shooting money", but you can only notice your mistakes long after you've made them. It makes you focus and care for each shot like digital cameras/smartphone would never do...which, in my case, turns into a incredibly rewarding feeling for many of the photos I've taken, even the bad ones. So here I am, after about a week of eBay/webstores and rapid comparisons on Super8Wiki, silently waiting for my Yashica Super 800 Electro, a stock of old Ektachrome 160 cartidges, and the end of the lockdown. Already found a place in Italy that develops/scans Super 8 at a reasonable price, so I guess I should be good to go. Thanks as always Noah, for both the suggestions and your videos, I really enjoy the contents you bring up!
@@gianlucat996 solo un paio, con risultati discreti. Come per le pellicole fotografiche, però, dioende molto da come vengono conservate nel tempo. Potrei aver avuto semplicemente fortuna!
Your footage just captures a feel that video never will, wonderful. Makes me remember and miss my high school days.....from 50 years ago. Great content. In my senior year creative English class we had to do a creative project. Four of us wrote, directed and performed in a short "film", done on huge early video equipment so watching yours was a great reminder. Thank you
We always find ourselves coming back to your channel for research, currently waiting on our first reels to come back from the lab! Thanks for keeping the channel going!
Damn...makes me wish I had a Super 8 back in my own high school theatre days. Wow. That weirdly brought me back to my own memories from HS man. Nicely done and thanks for sharing!
I absolutely love Super 8 and your channel is one of the main reasons why I finally bit the bullet, I started shooting and I hope I make make something of it down the track. Eventually I would like to own a 16mm camera too.
Thanks for the video. It is really encouraging for new comers in super 8 world like me. Interest on super 8 filming is also growing in young generation. But the big challenge is finding equipments ( specially super 8 cameras) now a days for this hobby. Kodak still making super 8 films. that's good. In last 3 decades, there was no new manufacturing of super 8 cameras . Now in 2021, in Ebay we see most of the cameras for sale are found in non- operative condition ( just sold as parts) . So called " great working condition" cameras also have some problems. Only few late version of S8 cameras are available with high cost. I am afraid, within next few years, most of the working cameras will have technical problem due to aging. Repair shops are hard to find and spares not available. Same situation for Projectors. The most fun and enjoying part is watching your own movie with projector. If we scan the Super 8 film in digital format , it is digital again and no fun and excitement is there. We may be ready to see the death of super 8 era soon if no miracle happens.
I’ve used power geek film quite a lot. Hard to come by now as they seem to have stopped selling it. At least where I am. It seems to be repacked Fuji C200 from what I can gather and judging by what is written on the negatives themselves after I processed them. Great video as per usual Noah !
Loving the footage. It's funny but no matter what the format, but particularly the silent Super 8 stuff, there is always someone mugging the camera. It makes me chuckle.
Love the footage! It had a really cozy feel to it and it brought a big smile to my face! Wish I could shoot super 8 but I still have a backlog of 35mm film that still is waiting for development so maybe I should just stick to that for now lol I've also found that stuff I've done for the first time turns out better then when you do it again after too. It's so weird lol Maybe because the first time you don't expect anything?
I first started shooting film in the late 60's. At the time Super 8mm was at its zenith of technology. But i went with Regular 8mm because it was much cheaper. I could still find cameras and projectors at places like yard sales and pawn shops. Regular 8mm film was cheap especially if I looked for bins at pharmacies with outdated rolls which went for a few dollars. I used the same places to send my film for processing and get is back in a week. Then I discovered mail order companies like Superior Bulk Film which sold film and processing and a lot of accessories. My first films were shot on Kodachrome but I also experimented with unusual stocks such a GAF Sepia. My first camera was a Bell and Howell model 232 which I still have. I eventually moved on to Super 8mm and 16mm. Though I did still collect regular 8mm cameras (from Ebay) as a hobby.
"At the time Super 8mm was at its zenith of technology. But i went with Regular 8mm because it was much cheaper." - me too. Back in the eighties, East-German ORWO Std8 color reversal stock was (also counting in the runtime) three times less expensive than AGFA Super8, let alone Kodachrome Super8. So I went with ORWO for most of the time (for over 100 rolls). Fortunately, I should add, as those ORWO films have kept their original colors, unlike AGFA stock.
The movie looked fantastic, love that bw look.... getting ready to get my first color reversal film in the mail!!!! Can’t wait....to shoot it.... I have two super 8 cameras now and I’m thinking of doing color in one and bw on the other ... if I send them both back to pro 8 at the same time,, will they come back together on one reel?anyway... thanks for another awesome video bud!!!
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Power geek is rebranded Fuji C200 it’s actually alright, my uncle bought me some for Christmas. It’s a shame it’s only 10 exposures as if it had 24 or 36 it would be a great cheap film.
I shot a grainy grungy black and white music video on super 8 back in 2009 for my friends band. I had originally shot it on 16mm but the footage didn't turn out. I documented the whole experience and put a video up about it on my channel. I now own a Canon auto zoom 814 which I bought at the thrift store I was working at Savers which is the american version of Value Village @7:04. I haven't shot anything with it yet but I did get it signed by a bunch of famous directors (Kenneth Anger, Werner Herzog, John Waters, Tim Burton and Terry Gilliam) so even if I never run any film through it it still should probably end up in a museum after my death. But i do plan to shoot with it.
I never used a Super 8 camera. The family movie camera was a Siemens 8R double 8mm unit from the 1930s?. I ran rolls of Kodachrome movie film through it, occasioanlly using it as a still camera, which turned into multicolored mush when projected. Without movie lights, I was limited to daylight use on this clockwork windup motor, manual camera. I did try a Fujica Single 8 camera, but the camera-store-only availability of Fujichrome R25 halted this experiment with polyester-base movie film. The last movie camera I used was something else: a Beaulieu MCR-8G, which sported a 6.5-52mm manual zoom lens and a below-the-lens Selenium cell light meter. By this time, Super 8 and film movie cameras were "doing a slow fade to black" as video cameras using tape cassettes and memory sticks took over. It was an interesting time, but I am a Still images photographer.
The problem with wanting to get into Super 8 or even 8mm camera's is that it is very expensive for the amount of time each film roll gives you, which is approx. 3-4 mins of video. The cost of film and film processing is all dependant on where you live because the cost of a single cartridge/roll of film and film processing can cost anywhere in the region of $40 to $100 and that's just for the film and processing of the film and remember that's for approx. 3-4 mins of film. So $40 to $100 for 3-4 mins of video, is it worth it? What gets more expensive is the medium you want to show the video footage on. Do you want it on film spool that is used on a projector (you have to buy a working projector) or do you want the film processing company to convert the film to digital format. Nearly all film processing companies are able to transfer the film to a digital format but again it comes down to cost. So lets recap, you have a Super 8 camera, you purchase a super 8 film cartridge. You get the film processed and want it in a digital format, maybe mp4 or avi video format. The total cost, somewhere in the region of $60 to $140 for a video file that is only going to be approx. 3 - 4 mins long. The cost can be cheaper but you have to do a lot of searching around for the right price of film and the company who can offer a decent price on film processing.
I got into shooting super 8 because of your channel. I was shooting analog photo-film for some time and through this I found your channel. I watched some of your videos about super 8 filmand was instantly intrigued by it. So I got a used Nico S800. Unfortunately the cover of the battery compartment for the light meter was very worn out and not made for our current coins (I live in Germany so it was designed for D-Mark not for Euros). I tried very long to open it and finally succeeded with the help of a switzer coin. Then the struggle to get a compatible battery began. I tried to use adapters but it did not work out. In the end I used Winecells. Not an optimal solution because they are very expensive and do not last very long. Finally I had a very good time shooting super 8 on a class trip to Lyon (France). After all this I was incredible happy to see the results. (Please excuse any mistakes, I am German as I mentioned before and therefore my English isn't perfect)
Good video is it hard to Develop super eight film.Is the single frame exposure for stop motion animation?That is so cool now you have memories from high school on a super eight film thanks for sharing that amazing footage.
Hello, I just found a super 8 at home. Its a Porst reflex Z. The motor works fine but the second compartment for the button cell is where the move cartridge needs to be put in. I opened the compartment and there are cables tied to the button cell. How do I change it to get the light meter working?
Hi there. Did you ever shot, maybe in a peculiar situation where it was needed to shoot very fast - for example an action sequence, without looking trought the viewfinder but just pointing the camera toward the subject and carefully look at the lens and adjust the settings?
20-30 years ago.. common format? Uh I don't think so xD. 40years is pushing it. But VHS-C, VHS, Video8, Hi8, Digital8, MiniDV in that timeframe, definitely.
Help!!! I’m so confused because I’ve been using one roll and I feel I’ve shot more then 3 minutes which is the length. I don’t know how to figure out if the roll is done? I STUPIDLY opened it to see if the film was done because I watched a TH-cam video and someone said to see if it has moved. I’m stuck confused and idk what to do
I was given an old 16mm camera a five years ago. When I was in high school, I took an editing/production class and learned how to use final cut pro. After that, I wanted to learn how to edit actual film and with the covid-19 crisis, I thought it could be a great opportunity. With that said, I was wondering if you had any recommendations for a reasonably compact 16mm projector. Also, how does one do things like intertitles or subtitles on film? I also have a double 8mm camera that I would like to use at some point so are there any projectors that can project both film formats?
Hey man I really enjoy all of your videos, you pushed me to buy a super 8 camera actually. But I just have one big problem and I can’t find an answer to, I was hoping you could help me. I bought this Halina camera and I just cant figure out what speed it takes. I don’t think it takes different speeds so I’m assuming that it’s designed for 40D but I can’t seam to find that info anywhere, and I’ve really looked everywhere.
Try here! Likely though it is something that doesn't really handle film above 40 very well. But that still means that 50D could probably be used no problem. www.filmkorn.org/super8data/database/cameras_list/cameras_halina/cameras_halina.htm
So Power Geek is a film from Poundland, the equivalent of the US's Dollar Tree or 99 cents store. It was the replacement for Agva Vista, which people were not happy about at all. I'm pretty sure it has been confirmed to just be repackaged Fuji c200
Hey! Great content! One question for you. How did you work around the footage counter problem? I recently got a super 8 camera that has a broken footage indicator. As a result, I have no way to know how much film left for me to shoot. What did you do when you were shooting with your camera?
When I used this camera I would just count or even use a timer on my phone to keep track of shot duration and then total that up as I went through the roll. Not the most convenient of course, but it let me keep track of things!
Hi! My first experience with a LD-6 that I recently obtained resulted (when projected, but with a loupe I can see it’s in the film) in a persistent and annoying vertical black line in a newly shot and developed TriX super 8 film, pretty close to the center of the image. I was wondering if you could tell us what could be causing this, how to fix it. Maybe it’s enough to devote a short video if it’s a common issue?
I bought a super 8 camera (Canon zoom 250 focus matic). It is missing a filter cancellation key, ee compensation adapter and an eyecup. Where do you think I might be able to find those parts for my "new" super 8 camera that I got. Thank You!!!
Not sure about the eyecup, but as for a filter key it’s possible for lots of cameras to use something like a quarter or medium sized coin like that or even cut one from a thick piece of plastic!
@@AnalogResurgence I guess I can try to make one. Many cameras nowadays are missing the filter cancelation key. I think it would be a great idea if you make a video on how to make one. 👍
It was only a few dollars cheaper then the costs are currently. I used Niagara Custom Lab for processing and their pricing can be seen here: niagaracustomlab.baremetal.com/
@@AnalogResurgence Tanks for the Answer, I have the Problem with my super 8 Kamara, which I have, buy it with a Film and it’s a Kodachrome 40, but is very difficult to fiend someone that can Develop them. I have found some lab, but it is really expensive. What film was your first film?
You could also consider going the DS8 (or even Standard8!) way if black-and-white only isn't a problem. Three times less expensive if you're outside the US.
Super 8 cameras have a counter on them that lets you keep track of how much is left and when you're at the end. Many cameras also have a light in the viewfinder that comes on at the end as well, and when you take out a completed cartridge the word 'Exposed' is printed on the end of the film.
Is there any good way to scan film at home (Specifically motion picture film, I know there are flatbed scanners for still images but the best I could find for motion picture was the wolverine scanner and it gives 720 resolution and nothing more).
Other than the wolverine there's not much in the way of cost effective home scanning (cheaply). If you've got diy spirit you could build your own out of an old projector and a dslr though- I'm currently working on making my own like that. Or there's a number of other ways to do it like here: hackaday.com/2020/04/12/8mm-film-scanner-grows-into-a-masterpiece/
I've been watching through your playlist on Super 8 mate and it's been an absolute joy. I bought my first Super 8 camera in December (a Sankyo Super CM) and was all ready to go making a student project with some friends here in Manchester, England. Covid put that on hiatus naturally, but your video series has really helped me reassess the planing stages for filming, and now feel invigorated for production to begin! Thank you! I do however have just one question, the Mercury Cell batteries are as you say, an old format and particularly hard to find in the UK. Is there a modern alternative, maybe some 1.5V Alkaline button cell battery (my Sankyo requires two for example) or will this affect the aperture of the camera? I'm told Wein cells might be the way to go...
The Bolex DS8 isn't a super 8 camera, but takes Double Super 8! If you're looking for sync sound with super 8 then it's difficult because they're primarily non-sync and also loud. You can seek out models that can be more precise (such as Nizo camera's from the 4-digit series like the 1040, 2056, 4080) and are more likely to be able to sync audio up with longer shots maybe close to a minute (based on some research I've done here: cinematography.com/index.php?/topic/55638-shooting-on-super-8-with-sound/). But for actually getting a full sync sound Super 8 camera you would maybe have to look at very expensive conversions (www.webtfg.com/sync8.htm).
@@Otokichi786 Bolex has never produced DS8 cameras. It's converstions (mods) of their H8 and H8 Rex cameras that shoot DS8. Here's my collection if interested (3 REX and one plain H8 models, all modded to shoot DS8): www.flickr.com/photos/33448355@N07/albums/72157712845936938
I found that NCL does have pretty decent processing prices. Speaking of which, if you live in the U.S.A, always remember that NCL lists their prices in CAD, not USD. I made that mistake once, and I was honestly relieved when I found out the prices were lower than I thought.
Their price for Ektachrome is in line with what you see from most places and in the same range as from LIFT, B&H, FrameDiscreet, Cinestill. Kodak’s price per cartridge is $50 Canadian directly. www.kodak.com/content/products-brochures/Film/Kodak-Motion-Picture-Products-Price-Catalog-Canada-August-2020.pdf lift.ca/product/kodak-ektachrome-7294-super-8mm-colour-reversal-film-50ft-asa-100d/ cinestillfilm.com/products/ektachrome-e100-7203-50-ft-super-8-cartridge-iso-100 www.framediscreet.com/buy-film
Analog Resurgence I almost completely forgot to consider that the prices on the website would be listed in CAD instead of USD. Must be because I’ve always lived in America.
That's right, Super8 is really expensive. I live in Rome and here, if you are lucky to find a lab that develops Super8, costs are forbidden. Just the film costs about 50 to 70€ ! For just 3 minutes of shooting! And then you have to develop it of course (more €€€) and the scanning process also costs really too much, jeez. That's really too much :(
You could also consider going the DS8 (or even Standard8!) way if black-and-white only isn't a problem. Three times less expensive for us non-Americans.
My dad shot a lot of Super 8 home movies back in the last 70's and early 80's. I guess he wanted to be like his father who shot a lot of 8mm film though out the 50's, but with the convenience of the Super 8 cartage. I didn't get my first Super 8 until 2006. -Love the film! Reminds me of fun memories I had with my high school friends. Love the passion you have for Super 8 and film in general. Keep up the amazing work!! :)
Love it! Passing down through all the generations. If you ever want to get that scanned, let us know with a message through our website. Www.framediscreet.com frame Discreet. Happy to work out something for you ☺
The amazing thing about Super 8 is just how timeless it feels. Like, really the only true giveaway of when your footage was shot was the MacBook in view - other than that, a lot of this looks like it could have been shot even in the 1970s or 1980s. And it just really makes it feel that much more like a memory, especially since the short running time of Super 8 kinda forces you shoot just really quick clips of life but that’s what lots of memories are anyways: just small bits of moments from our lives that we remember.
Marty Jackson very well said
That was truly beautiful, human, and magical footage. Just wonderful.
Back in the 1950’s in Australia cameras and especially movie cameras were out of the average person’s price range: Most people were working hard and it just didn’t occur that memories were worth saving: So so sad.
Enjoyed this episode very much thank you
Nothing has changed price wise in Australia, either hey Brian!! Still film, movie film, super 8 is all pricey and scant for places to get it processed. Typical Australia..bloody end of the earth...
@Bender & Xing - Abel Adventures That was really uncalled for bender: I just purchased another movie camera with three films: I have an extensive collection of both film and movie cameras. If you read my comment again you might see I was commenting on cameras when they first came out. So few could afford them: And if I’m not mistaken drug habits are more costly than film development: Most of which I do myself, but not movie film:
@@darkcustomxxx7252 It’s not that bad : Movie film developing is expensive and unfortunately most can’t afford the price, but one now and then keeps the nostalgia alive. All the best
That brought back memories of shooting film as a kid.
I wanted to get into shooting 8mm film for years and finding your channel made me finally do it. I got myself a Bolex Zoom Reflex P1 standard 8 (or double 8 however you wanna call it) camera and I absolutely love it. In contrast to digital it requires you to be much more conscious about the things you’re doing, the decisions you make and that made filming something special again. I also really like the fact that you get something physical out of it that you can actually hold in your hands. I like to think of it as "materializing memories"
I got the bolex p3 and I can’t wait to expose the foma r100.
Super 8, it just takes you back in time. Isn't it amazing that the equipment, now around 40 years old, works just as well today. Modern stuff ends up in landfill after a few years. Loved the video, very nostalgic.
Man that footage is beautiful. Glad your first one went the way it did ;)
I shot Super8 surf movies in the '70s, when I lived in Australia. I used a camera called a Nalcom FTL1000. What was unique about it was you could remove the 10x zoom lens, then with an adaptor attach another lens. I had the adaptor for a M42 (Pentax) screw mount. Attaching a 135mm lens would give you the equivalent of a 500mm+ lens, but you needed a decent fluid head tripod, which were super expensive back then. I always shot on Kodachrome Super 8 film, which included processing. The camera got stolen on a surfing trip, along with my Nikonos water camera. I lent my finished film to a surf club to show, and never saw that again either. I recently bought a couple of them on eBay relatively cheaply, and one even had the Pentax adaptor, which are super rare. Still not shot anything with them because of the usual reason. Too expensive.
A real beauty for a beginning camera. Reminds me of my Bauer C 2 M which didn't have a foldable handle but it had 24fps speed option which was the reason why i wanted it. And it was this camera i used to shoot my first 2 rolls of super 8 film with it. It was back in 2006 when Kodachrome K40 was really phasing out because the Kodak Laboratory in Lausanne Switzerland was to be closed and i shot my 2 rolls over the course of several months. First i tried to see if it even worked, sending the cartridge in these paper bags to Kodak. And then a few weeks later i got my developed K40 back. Then i knew i HAD to get another roll. That time in 2006 was my first ever personal Super 8 experience and i LOVED it :)
Show us more of your super 8 cameras! I’m still way too confused and scared to pick a model to buy and it helps a lot. Buying a super 8 seems a big commitment, specially because there’s no lab to develop 8mm film in my country, so I figure I would shoot several rolls at once before sending it somewhere else to develop them, and if they all came back ruined because of a faulty light meter or something, it would be a huge disappointment...
Great video and thank you for all the info :)
Here in the UK we've been in Lockdown for three weeks and have just began another three. Your content has been super entertaining during this time where my photography has been limited.
I hope you are safe and continue to make such great and entertaining content. You help me to learn alongside my College (Now University) course and I am so glad to support you on Patreon.
Stay safe and keep up the good work💛
Thank you so much!
This is so cool! I have a bit of a hard time realising that 2013 was 7 years ago and not like a few years ago... Despite the price, I really want to dive into Super 8 film. I was tempted to make something like a short film at home relating to current affairs, but I don’t know about the idea... EDIT: (30/6/2020) I’ve bought a Sankyo LXL-255 and also am gonna try Vision 3 500T soon!
Any updates on your film?
@@ROBERTO1OOO i never ended up making it, but I will do something with the film and camera!
@@AeromaticXD good luck ! :D
@@ROBERTO1OOO thank you!
Very cool, I think many people started in the same way you did. They jumped off the cliff, shot one roll of Super 8 and were hooked. It doesn't take long to transition from super 8 to 16mm and eventually 35mm. Heck, I have a friend who owns a 65mm camera and is one of the only privately owned camera systems in the world. My first moving image camera was a sears super 8 camera from the 60's that my dad bought for me from a yard sale in 1987. A year later, we found a Elmo Super 8 camera and projector combo at another sale and that was the camera my entire childhood was shot through. Of course, I was always the operator, so not much footage of me, but it's still great to look back and see the past through the lens of a 12 year old. Sadly, the final year of Kodak sound on film was 1989 and once it was impossible to get sound film anymore (1991 ish), I switched to video. Had sound film existed longer, I probably would have stuck it out with super 8 for longer as well, but I really wanted sound and the cost for used video cameras was dropping in price, so I had many used video cameras. I continued shooting film over the years, but only on commercial shoots. I have yet to make any home movies on film since 1991. Today I own many motion picture cameras, but mostly commercial one's.
I was brought here by film photography, which has become quite a big interest for me in the last year. I like the sense of "responsability" it forces you through, since not only you're, basically, "shooting money", but you can only notice your mistakes long after you've made them. It makes you focus and care for each shot like digital cameras/smartphone would never do...which, in my case, turns into a incredibly rewarding feeling for many of the photos I've taken, even the bad ones.
So here I am, after about a week of eBay/webstores and rapid comparisons on Super8Wiki, silently waiting for my Yashica Super 800 Electro, a stock of old Ektachrome 160 cartidges, and the end of the lockdown. Already found a place in Italy that develops/scans Super 8 at a reasonable price, so I guess I should be good to go.
Thanks as always Noah, for both the suggestions and your videos, I really enjoy the contents you bring up!
Ciao! Hai poi testato lo stock di pellicole acquistate? Funzionano bene anche se scadute?
@@gianlucat996 solo un paio, con risultati discreti. Come per le pellicole fotografiche, però, dioende molto da come vengono conservate nel tempo. Potrei aver avuto semplicemente fortuna!
Your footage just captures a feel that video never will, wonderful. Makes me remember and miss my high school days.....from 50 years ago. Great content. In my senior year creative English class we had to do a creative project. Four of us wrote, directed and performed in a short "film", done on huge early video equipment so watching yours was a great reminder. Thank you
Can't wait to (hopefully) find a super8 this summer when the estate sales fire up. great video. great channel. Nice work!
We always find ourselves coming back to your channel for research, currently waiting on our first reels to come back from the lab! Thanks for keeping the channel going!
watching these vids really makes me want to shoot super 8. keep up the awesome work!
Damn...makes me wish I had a Super 8 back in my own high school theatre days. Wow. That weirdly brought me back to my own memories from HS man. Nicely done and thanks for sharing!
I absolutely love Super 8 and your channel is one of the main reasons why I finally bit the bullet, I started shooting and I hope I make make something of it down the track. Eventually I would like to own a 16mm camera too.
Thanks for the video. It is really encouraging for new comers in super 8 world like me.
Interest on super 8 filming is also growing in young generation. But the big challenge is finding equipments ( specially super 8 cameras) now a days for this hobby. Kodak still making super 8 films. that's good. In last 3 decades, there was no new manufacturing of super 8 cameras . Now in 2021, in Ebay we see most of the cameras for sale are found in non- operative condition ( just sold as parts) . So called " great working condition" cameras also have some problems. Only few late version of S8 cameras are available with high cost. I am afraid, within next few years, most of the working cameras will have technical problem due to aging. Repair shops are hard to find and spares not available. Same situation for Projectors. The most fun and enjoying part is watching your own movie with projector. If we scan the Super 8 film in digital format , it is digital again and no fun and excitement is there. We may be ready to see the death of super 8 era soon if no miracle happens.
Thank you clear my problem
did i clap when the sign said applause? maybe.. i don't wanna talk about it
I’ve used power geek film quite a lot. Hard to come by now as they seem to have stopped selling it. At least where I am. It seems to be repacked Fuji C200 from what I can gather and judging by what is written on the negatives themselves after I processed them. Great video as per usual Noah !
So sentimental, makes me want to get one for myself but it’s way outta of my league. I once saw a wedding shot on super 8 film, it was beautiful.
Super8 brings out the best in people .
Loving the footage. It's funny but no matter what the format, but particularly the silent Super 8 stuff, there is always someone mugging the camera. It makes me chuckle.
Love the footage! It had a really cozy feel to it and it brought a big smile to my face! Wish I could shoot super 8 but I still have a backlog of 35mm film that still is waiting for development so maybe I should just stick to that for now lol
I've also found that stuff I've done for the first time turns out better then when you do it again after too. It's so weird lol Maybe because the first time you don't expect anything?
I first started shooting film in the late 60's. At the time Super 8mm was at its zenith of technology. But i went with Regular 8mm because it was much cheaper. I could still find cameras and projectors at places like yard sales and pawn shops. Regular 8mm film was cheap especially if I looked for bins at pharmacies with outdated rolls which went for a few dollars. I used the same places to send my film for processing and get is back in a week. Then I discovered mail order companies like Superior Bulk Film which sold film and processing and a lot of accessories. My first films were shot on Kodachrome but I also experimented with unusual stocks such a GAF Sepia. My first camera was a Bell and Howell model 232 which I still have. I eventually moved on to Super 8mm and 16mm. Though I did still collect regular 8mm cameras (from Ebay) as a hobby.
"At the time Super 8mm was at its zenith of technology. But i went with Regular 8mm because it was much cheaper." - me too. Back in the eighties, East-German ORWO Std8 color reversal stock was (also counting in the runtime) three times less expensive than AGFA Super8, let alone Kodachrome Super8. So I went with ORWO for most of the time (for over 100 rolls). Fortunately, I should add, as those ORWO films have kept their original colors, unlike AGFA stock.
The movie looked fantastic, love that bw look.... getting ready to get my first color reversal film in the mail!!!! Can’t wait....to shoot it.... I have two super 8 cameras now and I’m thinking of doing color in one and bw on the other ... if I send them both back to pro 8 at the same time,, will they come back together on one reel?anyway... thanks for another awesome video bud!!!
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make sure you have the reels in numerical order if they are being combined onto one reel.
Power geek is rebranded Fuji C200 it’s actually alright, my uncle bought me some for Christmas. It’s a shame it’s only 10 exposures as if it had 24 or 36 it would be a great cheap film.
0:17 So you basically stole a camera. That's also how I started with photography.
Hahaha...reclaimed maybe?
I shot a grainy grungy black and white music video on super 8 back in 2009 for my friends band. I had originally shot it on 16mm but the footage didn't turn out. I documented the whole experience and put a video up about it on my channel. I now own a Canon auto zoom 814 which I bought at the thrift store I was working at Savers which is the american version of Value Village @7:04. I haven't shot anything with it yet but I did get it signed by a bunch of famous directors (Kenneth Anger, Werner Herzog, John Waters, Tim Burton and Terry Gilliam) so even if I never run any film through it it still should probably end up in a museum after my death. But i do plan to shoot with it.
I never used a Super 8 camera. The family movie camera was a Siemens 8R double 8mm unit from the 1930s?. I ran rolls of Kodachrome movie film through it, occasioanlly using it as a still camera, which turned into multicolored mush when projected. Without movie lights, I was limited to daylight use on this clockwork windup motor, manual camera. I did try a Fujica Single 8 camera, but the camera-store-only availability of Fujichrome R25 halted this experiment with polyester-base movie film. The last movie camera I used was something else: a Beaulieu MCR-8G, which sported a 6.5-52mm manual zoom lens and a below-the-lens Selenium cell light meter. By this time, Super 8 and film movie cameras were "doing a slow fade to black" as video cameras using tape cassettes and memory sticks took over. It was an interesting time, but I am a Still images photographer.
The problem with wanting to get into Super 8 or even 8mm camera's is that it is very expensive for the amount of time each film roll gives you, which is approx. 3-4 mins of video. The cost of film and film processing is all dependant on where you live because the cost of a single cartridge/roll of film and film processing can cost anywhere in the region of $40 to $100 and that's just for the film and processing of the film and remember that's for approx. 3-4 mins of film. So $40 to $100 for 3-4 mins of video, is it worth it?
What gets more expensive is the medium you want to show the video footage on. Do you want it on film spool that is used on a projector (you have to buy a working projector) or do you want the film processing company to convert the film to digital format. Nearly all film processing companies are able to transfer the film to a digital format but again it comes down to cost.
So lets recap, you have a Super 8 camera, you purchase a super 8 film cartridge. You get the film processed and want it in a digital format, maybe mp4 or avi video format. The total cost, somewhere in the region of $60 to $140 for a video file that is only going to be approx. 3 - 4 mins long. The cost can be cheaper but you have to do a lot of searching around for the right price of film and the company who can offer a decent price on film processing.
I got into shooting super 8 because of your channel. I was shooting analog photo-film for some time and through this I found your channel. I watched some of your videos about super 8 filmand was instantly intrigued by it. So I got a used Nico S800. Unfortunately the cover of the battery compartment for the light meter was very worn out and not made for our current coins (I live in Germany so it was designed for D-Mark not for Euros). I tried very long to open it and finally succeeded with the help of a switzer coin. Then the struggle to get a compatible battery began. I tried to use adapters but it did not work out. In the end I used Winecells. Not an optimal solution because they are very expensive and do not last very long. Finally I had a very good time shooting super 8 on a class trip to Lyon (France). After all this I was incredible happy to see the results. (Please excuse any mistakes, I am German as I mentioned before and therefore my English isn't perfect)
Lots of work, but worth it!
@@AnalogResurgence definitely
You better roll up your sleeves and start processing the B&W film yourself
Nice to see you here too - I tried to congratulate you several times on your 8mm film scans but comments are disabled almost everywhere.
Really neat video!
Have you been in theatre before? Looked like some of those scenes had some set painting and makeup rooms!
Loved it!
Good video is it hard to Develop super eight film.Is the single frame exposure for stop motion animation?That is so cool now you have memories from high school on a super eight film thanks for sharing that amazing footage.
What a dream!
Where can I go to buy an affordable Super 8 camera that is not eBay?
Epic 8mm
Hello,
I just found a super 8 at home. Its a Porst reflex Z. The motor works fine but the second compartment for the button cell is where the move cartridge needs to be put in. I opened the compartment and there are cables tied to the button cell. How do I change it to get the light meter working?
Hi there. Did you ever shot, maybe in a peculiar situation where it was needed to shoot very fast - for example an action sequence, without looking trought the viewfinder but just pointing the camera toward the subject and carefully look at the lens and adjust the settings?
I'd start shooting Super8 again if I could only find my camera, I think it may have gone out in one of my wifes garage sales!
20-30 years ago.. common format? Uh I don't think so xD. 40years is pushing it. But VHS-C, VHS, Video8, Hi8, Digital8, MiniDV in that timeframe, definitely.
Help!!! I’m so confused because I’ve been using one roll and I feel I’ve shot more then 3 minutes which is the length. I don’t know how to figure out if the roll is done? I STUPIDLY opened it to see if the film was done because I watched a TH-cam video and someone said to see if it has moved. I’m stuck confused and idk what to do
I was given an old 16mm camera a five years ago. When I was in high school, I took an editing/production class and learned how to use final cut pro. After that, I wanted to learn how to edit actual film and with the covid-19 crisis, I thought it could be a great opportunity. With that said, I was wondering if you had any recommendations for a reasonably compact 16mm projector. Also, how does one do things like intertitles or subtitles on film? I also have a double 8mm camera that I would like to use at some point so are there any projectors that can project both film formats?
Hey man I really enjoy all of your videos, you pushed me to buy a super 8 camera actually. But I just have one big problem and I can’t find an answer to, I was hoping you could help me. I bought this Halina camera and I just cant figure out what speed it takes. I don’t think it takes different speeds so I’m assuming that it’s designed for 40D but I can’t seam to find that info anywhere, and I’ve really looked everywhere.
Try here! Likely though it is something that doesn't really handle film above 40 very well. But that still means that 50D could probably be used no problem.
www.filmkorn.org/super8data/database/cameras_list/cameras_halina/cameras_halina.htm
So Power Geek is a film from Poundland, the equivalent of the US's Dollar Tree or 99 cents store. It was the replacement for Agva Vista, which people were not happy about at all. I'm pretty sure it has been confirmed to just be repackaged Fuji c200
Hey! Great content! One question for you. How did you work around the footage counter problem? I recently got a super 8 camera that has a broken footage indicator. As a result, I have no way to know how much film left for me to shoot. What did you do when you were shooting with your camera?
When I used this camera I would just count or even use a timer on my phone to keep track of shot duration and then total that up as I went through the roll. Not the most convenient of course, but it let me keep track of things!
@@AnalogResurgence Cool！ I will try it out. Thanks a lot!
I rarely see super 8 shot with a gimbal or a tripod. Always shaky.
Hi! My first experience with a LD-6 that I recently obtained resulted (when projected, but with a loupe I can see it’s in the film) in a persistent and annoying vertical black line in a newly shot and developed TriX super 8 film, pretty close to the center of the image. I was wondering if you could tell us what could be causing this, how to fix it. Maybe it’s enough to devote a short video if it’s a common issue?
Once you start shooting a roll. Can you remove the roll and put it in another camera?
Yes! But the footage counter on your camera will reset so you have to remember how much you've shot.
I bought a super 8 camera (Canon zoom 250 focus matic). It is missing a filter cancellation key, ee compensation adapter and an eyecup. Where do you think I might be able to find those parts for my "new" super 8 camera that I got. Thank You!!!
Not sure about the eyecup, but as for a filter key it’s possible for lots of cameras to use something like a quarter or medium sized coin like that or even cut one from a thick piece of plastic!
@@AnalogResurgence I guess I can try to make one. Many cameras nowadays are missing the filter cancelation key. I think it would be a great idea if you make a video on how to make one. 👍
Can you remanber how much the film cost, and how much the dewellopping?
It was only a few dollars cheaper then the costs are currently. I used Niagara Custom Lab for processing and their pricing can be seen here: niagaracustomlab.baremetal.com/
@@AnalogResurgence
Tanks for the Answer,
I have the Problem with my super 8 Kamara, which I have, buy it with a Film and it’s a Kodachrome 40, but is very difficult to fiend someone that can Develop them.
I have found some lab, but it is really expensive.
What film was your first film?
im considering buying a super 8 camera but the film is so expensive that I'm not really sure if its worth it
You could also consider going the DS8 (or even Standard8!) way if black-and-white only isn't a problem. Three times less expensive if you're outside the US.
hi, how would you know if your film roll is finish? thanks
Super 8 cameras have a counter on them that lets you keep track of how much is left and when you're at the end. Many cameras also have a light in the viewfinder that comes on at the end as well, and when you take out a completed cartridge the word 'Exposed' is printed on the end of the film.
Noa where the hell can i get 8mm film?
You can get 8mm film here: filmphotographyproject.com/
Or Super 8mm film here: www.pro8mm.com?sca_ref=207073.rkNff54PoN
Have you watched Super 8 -the movie?
Is there any good way to scan film at home (Specifically motion picture film, I know there are flatbed scanners for still images but the best I could find for motion picture was the wolverine scanner and it gives 720 resolution and nothing more).
Other than the wolverine there's not much in the way of cost effective home scanning (cheaply). If you've got diy spirit you could build your own out of an old projector and a dslr though- I'm currently working on making my own like that. Or there's a number of other ways to do it like here: hackaday.com/2020/04/12/8mm-film-scanner-grows-into-a-masterpiece/
You can't really expect more than 720p from even the best S8 stock (currently, Kodacolor 40). That is, 720p isn't that big a problem.
I've been watching through your playlist on Super 8 mate and it's been an absolute joy. I bought my first Super 8 camera in December (a Sankyo Super CM) and was all ready to go making a student project with some friends here in Manchester, England. Covid put that on hiatus naturally, but your video series has really helped me reassess the planing stages for filming, and now feel invigorated for production to begin! Thank you!
I do however have just one question, the Mercury Cell batteries are as you say, an old format and particularly hard to find in the UK. Is there a modern alternative, maybe some 1.5V Alkaline button cell battery (my Sankyo requires two for example) or will this affect the aperture of the camera? I'm told Wein cells might be the way to go...
Is 8mm film still produced, I found a cam with spots for 2 spools so if anyone knows, were can I get some?
Yes it’s still produced. You can look on the Film Photography Project site. Foma also produce it.
Lift.on.ca sells it, Niagara Custom Lab will process it and for a better scan ask them to forward it to WWW.FRAMEDISCREET.COM frame Discreet :)
Hi can you get a supper 8 camera that can sink sound thanks
That's spelled "B-o-l-e-x D-S-8."
The Bolex DS8 isn't a super 8 camera, but takes Double Super 8! If you're looking for sync sound with super 8 then it's difficult because they're primarily non-sync and also loud. You can seek out models that can be more precise (such as Nizo camera's from the 4-digit series like the 1040, 2056, 4080) and are more likely to be able to sync audio up with longer shots maybe close to a minute (based on some research I've done here: cinematography.com/index.php?/topic/55638-shooting-on-super-8-with-sound/). But for actually getting a full sync sound Super 8 camera you would maybe have to look at very expensive conversions (www.webtfg.com/sync8.htm).
@@AnalogResurgence Hi thanks for the information .
@@Otokichi786 Bolex has never produced DS8 cameras. It's converstions (mods) of their H8 and H8 Rex cameras that shoot DS8. Here's my collection if interested (3 REX and one plain H8 models, all modded to shoot DS8): www.flickr.com/photos/33448355@N07/albums/72157712845936938
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I found that NCL does have pretty decent processing prices. Speaking of which, if you live in the U.S.A, always remember that NCL lists their prices in CAD, not USD. I made that mistake once, and I was honestly relieved when I found out the prices were lower than I thought.
Their price for Ektachrome is in line with what you see from most places and in the same range as from LIFT, B&H, FrameDiscreet, Cinestill. Kodak’s price per cartridge is $50 Canadian directly.
www.kodak.com/content/products-brochures/Film/Kodak-Motion-Picture-Products-Price-Catalog-Canada-August-2020.pdf
lift.ca/product/kodak-ektachrome-7294-super-8mm-colour-reversal-film-50ft-asa-100d/
cinestillfilm.com/products/ektachrome-e100-7203-50-ft-super-8-cartridge-iso-100
www.framediscreet.com/buy-film
Analog Resurgence I almost completely forgot to consider that the prices on the website would be listed in CAD instead of USD. Must be because I’ve always lived in America.
That's right, Super8 is really expensive. I live in Rome and here, if you are lucky to find a lab that develops Super8, costs are forbidden.
Just the film costs about 50 to 70€ ! For just 3 minutes of shooting! And then you have to develop it of course (more €€€) and the scanning process also costs really too much, jeez.
That's really too much :(
You could also consider going the DS8 (or even Standard8!) way if black-and-white only isn't a problem. Three times less expensive for us non-Americans.
My dad shot a lot of Super 8 home movies back in the last 70's and early 80's. I guess he wanted to be like his father who shot a lot of 8mm film though out the 50's, but with the convenience of the Super 8 cartage. I didn't get my first Super 8 until 2006. -Love the film! Reminds me of fun memories I had with my high school friends. Love the passion you have for Super 8 and film in general. Keep up the amazing work!! :)
Love it! Passing down through all the generations. If you ever want to get that scanned, let us know with a message through our website. Www.framediscreet.com frame Discreet. Happy to work out something for you ☺