Building a DIY Minimoog
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 พ.ค. 2024
- Come and see how I built my DIY Minimoog clone! I had a blast working on this project. It was certainly my most intensive project to date. I hope that this video can provide inspiration, education, and entertainment to all who watch it.
Sources:
FantasyJackPalance - www.fantasyjackpalance.com/fjp...
Inaptly Crafted - inaptlycrafted.blogspot.com/2...
Fourty Seven Effects MIDI Library - github.com/FortySevenEffects/...
My Enclosure - www.circuitspecialists.com/ra...
Oscillator Board Repairs - drive.google.com/file/d/16hPk...
Oscillator Tuning Guide - search.retrosynth.com/ah/searc...
My Bill of Materials - docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
MIDI Control Board Design Files: drive.google.com/drive/folder...
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:38 Oscillator Trade-Off
2:35 Ordering Parts
3:54 Component Matching
5:57 Board Assembly
7:14 Enclosure
8:16 Mounting & Wiring
10:54 First Test
12:07 Fixing Bugs
13:10 MIDI Controller
15:04 Tuning
15:37 Final Demonstration
18:22 Outro - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
Bruh. Amazing. You've basically made a $7,000 synth for $700. And you explained everything so well in just 20 minutes. This is TH-cam at it's finest. Well done. Very, very, very well done.
For $700 Behringer made the Poly D with paraphonic voicing.
Today, $7,000 gets you a Moog One. ;)
You don't make your own synth to save money, you do it to learn and to revel in making something yourself.
@@johnd7564 I assure you, if you are making a Moog clone for $700 you are definitely saving money and that's likely the main point. Of course the experience is cool too, but most people don't have $7,000 to spend on one synth. Let's be real.
@@oldowl4290 Fair enough! But I don't think he did it to save money, I think he did it to do something awesome. And to that I say, mission accomplished!
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but we shall not forget that the $700 are only for the HW/expedition cost, the labor time (weeks) hasn't been counted here... 😉
This is a really cool video. Thanks for sharing.
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Speaking as an electronics engineer who used to design and build analogue synths and other music tech back in the 80s, I congratulate you on a first-class recreation of one of the all-time classic synths - it really DOES sound just like a real Minimoog, with that distinctive deep multi-oscillator bass (the so-called "Moog sound"). Kudos sir - you've earned my subscription to your channel and I look forward to seeing what else you come up with in the future.
What did you work on?
Yo dude this is sick! The analogue sounds are awesome. I admire your intelligence and perseverance to take on a project like this. Well done!
Thank you so much!
Hear hear
14:46 is like a 2001: Space Odyssey moment. Can't imagine your goosebumps when you hear these tones coming from something you built with your bare hands
Sounded more like Teenage Wasteland to me, just waiting for Entwistle's bass to kick in.
You have an incredible future designing synthesizers, if you choose… Immense respect for you
I mean, he copied the designs and the BOM and bought the PCBs ready made. Not so R&D when you're bragging about your masters degree in the intro.
Nice video though.
@@graffie as a 26 yo electronic engineer who is working now in an audio company I have to tell you that copying an existing schematic and making it work like that is far from easy and not attractive for any musical instrument developing brand. And yes, he really has a bright future ahead of him if he wants. You can have the best grades, but if you don't have this kind of patience and passion they don't mean a thing. This is impressive, and nothing can be taken away from the work he has done. Also, copying is the most important thing to do when you start: you learn so many things and then, after years, you can think of doing your own thing. Imagine this guy in 20 years. There is no limit on what he can achieve
When people ask why I pay so much for gear I will refer them to this video. The work you did is amazing!!!
facts. Quality is worth paying for. it really is that simple. i know we're thankful that people like Mr. Boggs here still believes in it as well
You turned your theoretical into practical. Bravo. Not as typical as one would think.
This is nuts. A side-by-side to an actual Minimoog would be amazing.
That detuned 5th patch sounds right on the money to me!
If it was a clone made for selling, yes, a comparison would be interesting.
In this case though, I think this synth speaks for itself. It sounds amazing, and the video is testament to the hard work and craftsmanship that went into the project.
I'm not sure two vintage minimoogs would even sound identical. They were hand-built too. They have lived different lives, exposed to different temperatures, humidity and use. Maybe they had repairs made to them, just like any vintage instrument.
That is the charm of analog cirquits.
I am a boat builder and furniture builder by trade. I can attest that a one-off build will always be unique, even if you follow the plans and drawings as closely as you can. This is why hand-made things are so beautiful, charming and yeah, expensive.
@@JH-lo9ut I have owned a 1970's vintage and a 2013 Voyager in my career, and they sound different from one another. The other 70's versions I compared to were similar but each with their own characteristics. This one has its own sound, as well. The one I am building from his links and video will also sound unique. I am looking forward to the results. Incidentally, I have an old Voyager case that will be the home of this project.
I love a ‘because I wanted to’ project. So much fun just making noises and what noises they are!
For the temperature drift problem what other companies used to do was to use a matched pair of standard transistors in the long tailed circuit and have their flat sides back to back with thermal paste between them and a brass formed ring tightly pressed around the bodies to encapsulate their environment. I've also had another setup which was that a third transistor was put inbetween the matched pair in the long tail circuit and would be designed to run at a higher optimum temperature (a temperature oven) than the surrounding environment, thermal paste then used in the same way to give a good contact to all three transistors and once again a brass formed sleeve added.
This brings me back from when I worked for Moog in Highschool as an intern. Wiring one of the sequencers took the better part of a week to do.
What an impressive accomplishment!! I've never heard a homemade synth sound better. And perfectly presented. Have you considered publishing the corrected circuit diagrams?
If youre referring to the corrected gerber files, then I put a link to the diagram of all of my corrections in the description. It shows which traces I cut and where I had to make bridges. I havent yet bothered to find out how to edit a gerber file directly to make the changes there, but if I do I will certainly link to them.
@@RyanBoggs Oh, that's awesome that you posted the info! Sorry I missed that before asking. I think you're going to inspire a lot of people to give it a shot. 🙏👍
@@Rompler_Rocco it would certainly be more ideal for people to have people fabricate PCBs based on correct gerbers rather than trying to correct the PCBs post-fab. If I can find a way to fix the gerbers then I will post an update to the description :)
@@RyanBoggs Just find someone who knows how to edit the gerbers. Great video and work.
@@RyanBoggs have you managed to update them yet?
This could be used as a training video for small project management. I am impressed with the planning, execution and troubleshooting that went into this build. As an aside, have you considered building effects into the synth? Reverb, modulation and echo can make a huge difference to the overall sound (although you can achieve the same with FX pedals).
I think I would personally go modular with custom built effects rather than build it in.
When the love for electronics and music collide, magic happens. Congrats! Very inspiring.
The sound is unbelievable.
Wow you are the man! Bob Moog and Keith Emerson would have been totally proud of you for carrying out such an endeavor. Best Wishes
I saw Emerson, Lake and Palmer live at the Isle of Wight Festival in August 1970. Totally awesome performance.
I reckon Rick Wakeman would be impressed too!
Having built the Elektor Formant modular analog myself in the seventies, I can relate to the dual transistor bottleneck for exponential frequency control in the VCO.
Kudos for finding a more avaiable replacement! Key component, period.
Very thorough project planning and well documented and explained, no corners cut!
Now pop a can and enjoy the fruits of your labour ;-)
Hé Roberto! Was just thinking about to share this with you...! Henkus
This is by no means a small feat in the realm of the building process: patience and seeing it through. I own a 1972 Minimoog and feel your synthesizer is definitely in the same range. Great job and thank you for video.
There is a certain satisfaction with doing it yourself. We can buy new and we can buy used, but when you craft something with your own hands and use your sheer determination - you'll have something you can be proud of and it may inspire you in different ways! Well done Ryan!
12:45 The satisfaction you must have felt hearing the machine making the sounds a synth should, Great work.
Really excellent work, dude. You are basically Studio Electronics circa 1987 or so! So far, it sounds spot on. You should find someone local with a Minimoog and shoot a comparison, or send that one to me and I'll do it!
Noooooooooooo madman you send your's 😁 ..... Well done Ryan really happy you got from Zero to Hero 👍😎
when I was a teenager I stumbled upon a "synth" at a yard sale.
It was an Ionic.
It was beat up keys didn't effect the output and it was turned into a patch connect to make sounds.
Three oscillators each having a triangle square and saw output then + - shape, freq. amp.
I could trigger one in to another in to another and on and on.
I came up with some sounds that nature would jump from.
That was in the 70s when Moog was hitting the stores .
This was already done in by some electric junky .
I ended selling it at a swap meet .
One thing I did to it was use a calculator key pad to feed the oscillators to trigger crossovers.
This freed up the patch cord connects.
Have fun with it keep the sound lower save your ears .
I didn't think it mattered then but now I should have known better.
You literally have done what I always dreamed of doing. I’m an EE major hoping to learn more about electronics and make instruments from there. This video gives me hope that it is very possible given a lot of work and persistence! You have greatly inspired me brother! Absolutely brilliant!
Well done, Ryan! Your methods for matching resistors and transistors, designing the board layout in the case, and building a MIDI interface for your Minimoog clone are all brilliant. The end result looks and sounds amazing! I hope we see more content from you on TH-cam in the near future.
Mister Boggs , You have my greatest respect and admiration ! I built a PAIA 2720 synthesizer kit , the hours of soldering , assembly , debugging , and finally to play ! You recorded the experience , all I have is a few polaroid pictures , but the satisfaction of achievement and the smell of rosin core solder will last a lifetime ! Great Job !
Yes! It's sooo rewarding. Its great to hear from fellow synth builders!
13:39 "So, using my brain" hell yeah brother! That looked like a challenge, well done man - was a very enjoyable video, thank you!
This is so cool! Sounds absolutely incredible and I enjoyed watching the process! Can’t wait to see more of your videos.
This is so cool! Definitely a challenging project but you nailed it. Can’t wait to see it
I do dabble in small electronic projects but this was a Mountain to climb and you did it Well Done Ryan Well Done 👌
18:34 so what you’re saying is you’re gonna try tackling an ARP Odyssey DIY build next, right?
Wow, congratulations on this projects man, sounds absolutely amazing!
Fantastic job. As an EE and a synthesist I’m envious. Sounds great.
Hi. *The* David Lovering?
Yes. Got more synths than drums. Job well done again.
@@davidlovering6033 I'm not the OP, I was just amazed to bump into you in the comments for this build about four hours after I bumped into my original cassette copy of _Doolittle_ in a storage box I was moving around. Agreed that the OP's achievement here was absolutely incredible, and fascinating to concidentally learn that you've been an EE the whole time I've been a fan.
Ryan, congratulation. Your instrument sounds incredible. Thank you for taking the time out to share your journey in creating art.
Awesome work, well done! That Vangelis sound at the end is fantastic!
Man, this is completely incredible! It's impressive how you had the patience to build it. I'm really satisfied with this. Thanks a lot for uploading this video!
You must be feeling pretty dang awesome right now, that sounded amazing, thanks for sharing this.
That Nerd Kit you got when younger is really paying off now...lol...Great job man!!
Nerd kit!?! LOL
Great job. That synth sounds awesome!
Incredible project and synth. Well done!
Wow. Each chapter could have been an entire impressive video. I am just blown away at the scope of the project. Good work! Your work is terrific.
Absolute genius!
Must be immensely satisfying and fun to have completed such a project.
I don't have the knowledge, skills or patience to do something like this, but I get so much enjoyment seeing other people such as yourself keeping the DIY thing alive.
Great sounds.
All the best from Rob in OZ.
Respect for finishing this project so well and thank you for the ELE tips. I never thought to highlight the wiring diagram
Wow, amazing!! Kudos to you for taking on such a project and seeing it through, this Moog sounds fantastic!!
super impressive. As someone in their senior year of electrical engineering tech, i can recognize the hard work that goes into this. Just imagine how hard it was to come up with the first synths!
Wow, what an incredible accomplishment! You seem like someone who can do anything they put their mind to!
That is one cool synth you built dude! Hyped to hear more from you!
I really enjoyed this video. The synth sounded amazing!
Congratulations Ryan ! As a former electronic hobbyist I could imagine the hard work you had making it works. Your video took me back .. 42 years before today, when I built a small synthesizer in my student room. What a souvenir ! So I could really appreciate your hard work !
This was truly amazing Such dedication is a true inspiration for all of us. I'd love to hear you play this instrument a bit more! Kind regards from Denmark.
That thing sounds awesome man. Congrats on a project well done.
Awesome job Ryan! Well done!
Fantastic sir. Never part with it, a labour of true passion.
Has to be the best home synth build video I've seen on TH-cam. I haven't the skills/knowledge/ability to even attempt this. I am fascinated by synths and the sounds they can make though. I would love to see you design and build your own creation in the future, a total original.
I bet you have ideas on your own original synth or how a synth could be vastly improved. By the sounds off it, you can't help it, it's in your DNA. So, get to planning and let a polysynth be born.
Great video. Good luck to you in all that you do. 👍👍👍
wow, great job! Your synth sounds fantastic!
Sounds incredible! Amazing work!
Holy cow. That looks and sounds absolutely perfect! (Well, apart from the initial avant garde piece it decided to play 🤣)
Really cool! Nice job!
Awesome to see you here! There were times where I had to listen to a lot of analog synth performances to inspire and motivate myself to keep going with this project. A few of your performances were part of that list :)
incredible work on this. sounds amazing.
So glad you uploaded this!! Been wanting to make an analog synth from scratch since getting into circuit bending and this helps so much
Great stuff! I'd love to do something just like this, I'm always after another project.
Good job Ryan
Those sounds spaced me out!
Mission accomplished
Congratulations, mate. What an amazing project!
This stuff is so easy to do with digital circuits, or just code on a computer. It's hard to understand why you'd want to build an analog one, until you do it. There's something magical about creating sound from analog parts.
"just code"
@@Nuke_Skywalker ?
@@Nuke_Skywalker if you mean that coding isn't easy.. that's true. I guess I was just speaking comparatively.
Is that basically how Look Mum No Computer builds most/all of his wall of modular; with digital controllers (Arduino and the like?) I mean, his stuff sounds wonderful, especially with his musical chops, and it’s hard to tell the difference with bread and butter sounds, but you can really appreciate the quality the authentic analog imparts when he pushes it with extreme modulation. That sonic chaos and uncertainty is hard to fully replicate with 1s and 0s; plus the analog filters just seem warmer and more rounded.
amazing, i have a vintage one and yours sounds perfect. The interior of the original is a work of art in itself, the cables are tied neatly against the lower edge of the chassis. Sometimes mine goes nuts with the tuning, i mean random huge fast pitch drifts, but i still havent manage to find the culprit component. I am amazed by your work there, congratulation!
I actually have a similar issue with mine. It has an issue where if I hit or push on the enclosure, especially the back panel, I will get similar pitch drifts. I have been able to track this down as a problem with the connection between the oscillator board and its connectors though maybe its different for a vintage Moog model. If I put a ohm-meter on one of the board I/O like the pitch input, then I can measure this disturbance as a change in the connection resistance as the board wobbles in the connector.
@@RyanBoggs Ryan, dude if i hit gently (hahaha) the chassis some times it goes away so i was thinking it could be a connection in the board ou between the board and the cartridge connector, but i also think it could be just coincidence when i hit it. Mine have never changed the capacitors so i had that also in mind, but with you experiencing a similar problem, maybe it is the same problem as yours, but what are the odds! your reply was really helpful! check out some of my videos, see if you also agree that yours is sounding very similar!
Dude this is beyond amazing! Like a Synth mad scientist. Super inspirational. Whatever sauce you have keep using it because you sir have a talent!
Pretty meaty sounding, nice DIY build. And thanks for the shout out.
Truly an impressive build. I'll give you a tip, as I did with see on my TB303 video, I made a front panel by having JLPC make me a PCB.
That way you can easily do a screen printing and in your specific case also a wiring optimization, since you can make tracks. It would be a front panel that on one side has all the writings screen printed and on the other side of the tracks that can facilitate the wiring flush.
Thats a fantastic idea and something I could probably still have made and install! I will definitely look into doing that. Sounds easier than working with a local screen printing company help me print directly on the front panel.
Nothing gives more pleasure than combining two interests into one!
When soldering and putting things together, to what degree did you have a mental understanding of how the individual components would affect the final sound?
Great work man! Congrats! Sounds phenomenal.
Nice- the “whatever this is” tones and some of the glitchy ones really show some depth that seems “thicker” sounding than a lot of diy synths I hear. Really awesome job!
Ryan, you’ve done and amazing job! This is an outstanding video as well!very inspiring! On my channel, I build step sequencers. Thanks to you mention of Circuit Specialists, I have a new place to shop for enclosures, which has been a real headache.
I love how thoroughly, thoughtfully, and clearly you documented and presented this, and your Minimoog looks and sounds amazing! This gave me a much deeper appreciation of analog synthesizers, and I already loved them in a major way.
What an awesome sound of that machine! congrats!
I am absolutely floored. Well done!
This was bad ass. Now time for a Fender Reverb tank clone!
I feel like this might finally inspire me to get off my duff and get started building a few simple Eurorack modules. What an insane undertaking here, and gosh it sounds just great - even when it's glitching out pre-fixes!
this is amazing! I'm sure you will enjoy this project for decades to come :)
I’m speechless. Your skill and perseverance is inspirational. Amazing work !
I am wondering how the oscillators in the grandmother were implemented. It's likely they are very similar to the old moog circuits, but using modern components
The old moogs used more discrete transistor designs for the oscillator like this one. As integrated circuit tech improved, Moog started using ICs for their oscillators. This was one of the differences between the old oscillator design and the new one. The Grandmother more than likely uses ICs as well, but how it approaches temperature stabilization I am curious about myself. I am wondering if Moog has a large stock of uA726s or a similar chip on hand just for this purpose.
@@RyanBoggs Well, the CEM3340 chips have internal temperature compensation and so do most other oscillator chips. But I'm not sure what was used in the grandmother.
Bad ass! Great job, awesome synth and I really enjoyed seeijg the process. What would u name it? 🙂 i know its meant to be a minimoog clone, but. I really liked the sawtooth and fikter, sounds very aciddy and buzzy. But yeah I think you have a future in analog synth manafacturing. With your know how, you could 100%- make and sell those. I will be first in line to purchase one. Have you considered doing this?
Do you understand what it would cost? - in developement?- how much time it would take? - cost versus earnings? - it would cost more than the original!! - he did this as a project, which he also wrote in the description -- to prove to himself and others than he could do it, - and well done!
@@MrKeys57 yeah, I thought about that! And the types of people who actually succeed most, are the ones who do stuff just like this! Look what behringer did!
Maybe behringer was a bad example. But how about somewhere like erica synths? They did it. They have a great brand and their not a big company
@@turfoid7899 what i mean is that i dont think THIS GUY is interested in massproduction of Moog copies, he is very capable, and making a synth like this is an achievment, maybe next time he will make a DIY washingmachine!
OMG love it! Classic DEVO-like tones out of that beast! F A T - sounding oscillators. Smooth filters. Nice work! 👌✨
That unmistakable sound of Bob Moog's filter circuit is just the most wonderful thing ever. Ryan, you did an awesome job on this project. I don't think I'm ready to try something like this but I'm thrilled you were able to build one and share it all with us. I subscribed right away! 😀
Transistors, capasiters and diodes are the key elements to controlling the frequency and wave modulation that creates the sound. Everything a electrician does can be dirrectly translated into sound synthesis.
Incredible work! I Appreciate your care and patience to build this. I'm inspired.
Thanks for showing your work! I’ll add this to the list of projects I may never finish
You got skills! this was such a rad build. I look forward to your future projects.
What an amazing analog synth build. Great work. It sounds absolutely amazing and it's so professional quality because of its oscillator stability. I could understand why you could play it all day! There is no sound quite like an analog synth sound. You've got a real gem! The best 20 minutes I've spent on TH-cam in a long time. 👏👍
It sounds amazing. Great job!!!
Absolutely excellent! Thank you Ryan. 😃
Beautiful sounds from an excellent machine!!
Brilliant, hats off to you Ryan.
Incredible product ! You are patient ! Bravo, continue !
That boss battle music tho.
Amazing, thx for sharing.
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Absolutely outstanding Ryan, not only in the execution of the project but also in the presentation of the video.
Amazing. Applause to your efforts. GREAT job! Thank you for sharing your experience and process through your journey.
I admire your super-organized, clean workflow. Very good overall pacing and explanation as well. Awesome project bro, keep up the good work!
Thanks for sharing your experience and thoughts Job well done.