More Than Twice the Tone? Why You Should Be Using Dual Compression

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  • @sweetwater
    @sweetwater  ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What’s going on your pedalboard now that you’ve unlocked the secret to dual-compression tone-crafting? Let us know in the comments and be sure to grab your compressor (or two) from Sweetwater 👉 sweetwater.sjv.io/CompressionAndEQPedals-PAQCLYwqi24

  • @ThomasHope73
    @ThomasHope73 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I’m actually using an MXR M87 “Bass Compressor” on my pedalboard, and it works great with guitar.

    • @scottbecker3485
      @scottbecker3485 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great to hear, since I was about to order one of those for use with guitar, too. :-) MXR just isn‘t get enough attention. I already have their reverb pedal, and it works great, without any tone suck (unlike tons of other reverb pedals).

  • @senorchivo90
    @senorchivo90 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I would also shout out Source Audio's Atlas Compressor. It does everything these two pedals do and then some, albeit digitally (56-bit). I really wanted a Cali76 Stacked, but couldn't resist the lower price tag and MIDI capability of the Atlas. It's been amazing.

    • @joeymc5272
      @joeymc5272 ปีที่แล้ว

      You should have paid the extea price tag i just got my stacked and its much better than the deluxe and source audio. Sorry bud but you made a grave mistake. Only downside is no midi other than that ill take the tone control over midi

    • @XxXHardcoreshredderxXXxxxxxxxx
      @XxXHardcoreshredderxXXxxxxxxxx 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do u think it's better than the UA Max? ​@@joeymc5272

  • @Alexholbert
    @Alexholbert ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mitch you do such a stellar job on these reviews! You keep it straight forward as well dive deep into the complexities without going over our heads!

  • @roscius6204
    @roscius6204 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I run a Cali 76 and a Compadre, sometimes in parallel sometimes in series.
    at different positions in the chain. All are valid.
    If you've tried compressors but not bought it, experiment, I guarantee there will be a setup where you take out the compressor and suddenly realize the value.

  • @mr.d.572
    @mr.d.572 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have an MXR Dynacomp. It's good, but I would like something more versatile, like one of these pedals.

  • @ThomasHope73
    @ThomasHope73 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great presentation Mitch 😎👍

  • @Giovy-Perez
    @Giovy-Perez ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can use UA MAX for my voice! and add another pedals!?

  • @Dream-Academy
    @Dream-Academy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How good is it compared to the Cali76 Stacked Edition which is the benchmark imo.

  • @twozero9
    @twozero9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    stanley clarke has been doing this since the 1970's. one compressor into another.

  • @drydreams8513
    @drydreams8513 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have been been running two comps ever since I discovered Demonfx pedals with their low prices I bought a Cali76 for $72 and a dark glass super symmetry for $68 . I didn’t intend to use them both at the same time never was my plan but I was messing around and hooked them both up at the same time and accidentally found out that it sounded pretty dam good and never took them off my board again. Also started buying alot of Demonfx pedals they are dirty cheap n sound amazing

  • @stevesalazar9658
    @stevesalazar9658 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really can't name a single chicken picking player I admire who ever used the Dyna? Only singer songwriters who were not that great at lead. I always remembered it being used by blues or rockers back in the day or country guys who basically strummed electric & used it to help balance the sound when strumming to create a more acoustic type of sound before there were emulation pedals. I remember the Boss Compressor as the more go to for the chicken picking players.

  • @markinthemix6055
    @markinthemix6055 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I really like the MIX or BLEND dial on my XOTIC SP compressor. Seems like ALL companies would offer this feature. Why not?🤔

    • @jessevandendoren
      @jessevandendoren ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is exactly why I use the Ego Compressor, you want both the compressed sound for more sustain but also the clean tone for the dynamics.

  • @RobertFisher1969
    @RobertFisher1969 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I feel like this didn’t really deliver on the promise. Just demonstrating tones out of context and talking abstractly about the application didn’t really help me understand the application. It would have probably have been better to show a part in the context of a tune/track to demonstrate the “problem” without any compression and then show how one compressor doesn’t do the whole job. Then show how adding the second compressor completes the solution.

  • @yobaby14
    @yobaby14 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mitch, back in the 90's I had two ties with the same pattern as the shirt you're wearing in this video. The only difference was that their base colors were brown and black instead of blue. Good stuff!

    • @MajorSeventh
      @MajorSeventh ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Paisley pattern. I had a paisley shirt in the early 90s that was tan/brown/red. Nice to see it back in fashion.

    • @yobaby14
      @yobaby14 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MajorSeventh We're showing our age. LOL

    • @yobaby14
      @yobaby14 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MajorSeventh At my 8th grade graduation I wore elephant bells and platform shoes. Do you go that far back as well? Ahhh, the good old days Hahahaha!!!

    • @ramencurry6672
      @ramencurry6672 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Back in the 60s sneakers were rare. Every guy wore leather shoes.

  • @MrDaigoRiki
    @MrDaigoRiki ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmm I don’t like compressor but I have a lot of pedals in the chain, I use it for a boosting purpose. I use a boss cs-3 and not gonna invest in on just a compressor pedal.

  • @loopdawgg
    @loopdawgg ปีที่แล้ว

    wish i had this guys job

  • @chrismcdermott7766
    @chrismcdermott7766 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If only they had put xlr/1/4" ins and outs on the max it could change the whole market

  • @hailmaryrecordings8255
    @hailmaryrecordings8255 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would this be good to use with a microphone in a project studio?

    • @3rdStoreyChemist
      @3rdStoreyChemist ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not really, there are some nice rack options that cost around the same as these pedals and are designed to work with that type of signal chain. Plus better meters for GR metering is hugely useful when recording vocals and plenty of other sources for that matter.
      It’s not that a guitar pedal won’t work, but should really be because you have no other choice.

    • @hailmaryrecordings8255
      @hailmaryrecordings8255 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@3rdStoreyChemist That’s what I thought initially. Thank you for the breakdown. ☮️

  • @jasoncheshire6153
    @jasoncheshire6153 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    can I run 2 cali76 compact deluxes on the same board?? Maybe one up front and the other in the back? Thanks

    • @sweetwater
      @sweetwater  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi, jasoncheshire6153. You could certainly do that if you wanted to. Like anything else with pedals, there are no rules and if it helps you achieve the sound you want, everything is fair game.
      Thanks for your interest!
      Charlie Davis, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1320, charlie_davis@sweetwater.com

  • @kennethcohagen3539
    @kennethcohagen3539 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where would you place it in the pedals train. Before or after distortion?

    • @sweetwater
      @sweetwater  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi, kennethcohagen3539. The most common place you see compression used is first in the pedal chain. Since it’s main task is smoothing out the dynamics of the guitar, this is best accomplished when it receives the guitar signal before anything else. That said, some people will use compression after distortion to mimic the feel of a cranked amp that is started to compress on its own. This can be very effective if you have a great sounding amp but can’t run it loud enough for it to be in it’s sweet spot. Like with all pedals, there are no rules and it’s whatever works for you and what you’re trying to achieve.
      Thanks for your interest!
      Charlie Davis, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1320, charlie_davis@sweetwater.com

  • @fotografiacotidiana
    @fotografiacotidiana ปีที่แล้ว

    Is his voice captured by that tiny lav??? It looks like a high end shotgun mic above

  • @kevinbrianjohnsonmusic
    @kevinbrianjohnsonmusic ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool. I accidentally bought two... forgot I entered an auction and found a good deal on another the same day at my music store 😅. Now I'll just put it on my board I guess...lol

  • @MajorSeventh
    @MajorSeventh ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looks like a winner from UA. This and a Strymon Flint and I'd be good to go.

    • @EJH-jn6mo
      @EJH-jn6mo ปีที่แล้ว

      Why? Because it has more knobs and flip switches?? You’ll find actual users of both prefer the Cali.

    • @XxXHardcoreshredderxXXxxxxxxxx
      @XxXHardcoreshredderxXXxxxxxxxx 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@EJH-jn6mowhat makes you say that?

  • @mr.yellowstrat3352
    @mr.yellowstrat3352 ปีที่แล้ว

    Need a shootout with these two units ASAP

  • @JX3D
    @JX3D ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Even dynamics"? Isn't that more like "no dynamics" or "less dynamics". Nothings wrong with compressors and its effects, its just the "even dynamics" definition that sounds wrong ;-)

  • @mr.yellowstrat3352
    @mr.yellowstrat3352 ปีที่แล้ว

    My LEDs don't change color. Just green the whole time.

  • @waytospergtherebro
    @waytospergtherebro ปีที่แล้ว +70

    99% of guitar players don't understand what a compressor is and you want them to buy two.

    • @darwinsaye
      @darwinsaye ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Maybe if those guitar players opened themselves up to learning more about their craft, music would get better.

    • @amplifier2
      @amplifier2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Haha. Good one.

    • @nohandle_nochannel
      @nohandle_nochannel ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Well, both of these pedals fixes that problem with only needing to buy one pedal to get two compressors? It's almost like they were trying to achieve something and find a solution to a common problem...

    • @basiltiffani8850
      @basiltiffani8850 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Even that 99% number were true, there are millions of guitar players out there. Even selling to a fraction of that 1% would be lots of sales.

    • @chepad1
      @chepad1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂

  • @ritzenhauf
    @ritzenhauf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    could have used some compressed air to blow the gibbles off the top of the pedal in closeups :)

  • @joanarling
    @joanarling ปีที่แล้ว

    Perhaps it's just me, but isn't sustain supposed to come from the instrument? Yes, the hull curve can be shaped, but to me that looks like a rather specialized application.

    • @jdjk7
      @jdjk7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "supposed to" is kind of the operative phrase. Can certain instruments have extremely high sustain on their own? Yes. But what most electric guitarists associate with "sustain" is largely due to compressors used in studio recordings, or the effect of things like tube saturation in amplifiers. One could debate about what an instrument is "supposed to" be all day, but if what you want is "that" sound, these are the types of tools that get you there.
      Plus, compressors affect the dynamics and the resulting harmonic content in a way that isn't possible through technique alone; while a skilled player can be controlled enough in their playing dynamics that a limiting compressor is not needed, the effect of heavy compression sort of defies the physics of the plucked string in a way that you can't get through technique alone.
      FWIW, while I don't think everybody "needs" compression, I find it to be invaluable in certain situations. For example... if you are a bass player who plays slap, everybody who has to hear you through the sensitive PA cabinets will thank you for applying appropriate compression.

    • @joanarling
      @joanarling ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jdjk7 I see. We're talking about different notions, it seems. I like little interference with the "pure" instrumental sound, while you go for all that electronics can give (or at lest express understanding for those who do).
      Well, to each their own.

  • @Pissarrio
    @Pissarrio ปีที่แล้ว

    is there a compressor that automatically sets the thresholds for your compression and also the ratio by examining the input signal. Perhaps an AI based compressor may be in works....

  • @Macmax7077
    @Macmax7077 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why not use 75 compressors? Maybe 150?

    • @Macmax7077
      @Macmax7077 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @user-zv7lm8uk7h Gilmour, the guy who uses my pedals, I think I know who he is, LOL.

  • @masterofreality230
    @masterofreality230 ปีที่แล้ว

    At this price I feel like they should have 4 jacks to run it in two places.

    • @incubusrok
      @incubusrok ปีที่แล้ว

      Why they don't have a loop function is insane to me. Series or parallel, having both compressors in one location is pointless

    • @masterofreality230
      @masterofreality230 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@incubusrok Still searching for the right one, you can do that with the SA Atlas. Think I am going to go analog and get a Cali 76 Compact deluxe, just waiting on my yearly cash infusion from Uncle Sam (taxes).

    • @saggygnaw
      @saggygnaw 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@masterofreality230 that “infusion of cash” is actually the government paying back the interest free loan you gave them by overpaying your taxes on every paycheck. You could just change your withholdings, keep and invest the extra money (with interest), and most importantly set aside the money you will have to pay in taxes anyway. The main point here is that the REFUND you’re receiving is exactly that, YOUR money that you chose to give to the government for free (which they invest and earn interest on).

  • @bille77
    @bille77 ปีที่แล้ว

    Being analog the Cali is way superior to the UA unit. It sounds WAY warmer. The digital UA just sounds very harsh and kinda "cold", if you catch my drift, my lords.

    • @mr.d.572
      @mr.d.572 ปีที่แล้ว

      I watch the video comparing the two and I forget which one I like better...this isn't it but I can't find that video now 😢

    • @jdjk7
      @jdjk7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have an experienced ear and I'm listening on IEMs, and I can barely tell a difference in the quality of the tone. It's close enough that, in a blind test, I would chalk it up to being two performances through the same equipment.
      Digital stuff has really come far. What doesn't tend to impress me is stuff like Line 6s and Zoom boxes that are do-it-all solutions for an entire pedalboard. When you have to have enough processing power to run all the algorithm necessary to meaningfully recreate these types of analog sounds, there are compromises.
      The difference I've seen with stuff like the UA is that because it's dedicated to just a couple of algorithms, each one can get both the development time and the processing power that it needs.
      A great example of this is the new Fender Tonemaster amps. Digital recreations of old Fender style amps. No "get 128 amp emulations in this one box" bs... each model is a dedicated recreation of a particular vintage model. I was at a jam recently where the house amp was a Tonemaster Princeton Reverb. Listening to it, I didn't realize it wasn't the real thing, and a slide guitarist friend of mine who played through it didn't realize it wasn't a real tube amp until he looked at it afterward.
      When the processing can be focused on achieving one goal instead of compromising many goals, it can work very well. Of course this is also dependent upon good programming and quality components, such as the AD/DA converters, etc. But nowadays components usually aren't the issue, and the programming tends to be a human factor. Passionate manufacturers can get it done

  • @john-paulsullivan5543
    @john-paulsullivan5543 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The chair is too compressed and leathery

  • @ToneDeth.
    @ToneDeth. ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All these features and no side chain input 🤦

    • @godot5082
      @godot5082 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is a sidechain option in the uamax pedal, there is a app where you can control different parameters of the compressor and pream.

  • @tshoob
    @tshoob 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Why you should be using dual compression: because it gives us twice the cash."
    - Sweetwater's Wallet-Nom-Nom Department

  • @Dan-gn2xo
    @Dan-gn2xo ปีที่แล้ว

    Why are you holding a guitar? I watched the whole video waiting to hear what it would sound like. Good information but I could have got that off the specs.

    • @Dan-gn2xo
      @Dan-gn2xo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oops watched it again you did play it. I guess I shouldn't have skipped around so much my bad.

    • @rgarcia4412
      @rgarcia4412 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣@@Dan-gn2xo

  • @anniedarkhorse6791
    @anniedarkhorse6791 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I came here to see if you can get the 2 x 1176 'Black Dog' sound from the Max or the Cali76. Wasted my time. I found this video to be completely timid and dull.

  • @dezionlion
    @dezionlion ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can’t tell with PRS pickups

  • @the_poty
    @the_poty ปีที่แล้ว

    "LIKE" 44

  • @everonlyallforthee
    @everonlyallforthee ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Amazing pedals with ZERO midi functionality.

    • @aerialcombat
      @aerialcombat ปีที่แล้ว

      😅

    • @MaxSebastianMayer
      @MaxSebastianMayer ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah welcome in 2023

    • @darwinsaye
      @darwinsaye ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Never needed MIDI in any guitar rigs in 50 years of playing.

    • @Gage409
      @Gage409 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That was my first reaction to the new UA pedals too

    • @vampirepvssy
      @vampirepvssy ปีที่แล้ว +3

      MIDI in a compression pedal 😂

  • @nuendo2496
    @nuendo2496 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Not diggin’ the PRS…..would have been better with a real guitar……

  • @sixslinger9951
    @sixslinger9951 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    want to ruin your tone, use compression x 2

  • @joeymc5272
    @joeymc5272 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I literally just got my cali stacked last week and i will tell you this i would take the cali dual comp over a digi uad dual comp any day.

    • @stephenvale937
      @stephenvale937 ปีที่แล้ว

      If u don't need stereo or the preamp. the cali is a better shout.

    • @XxXHardcoreshredderxXXxxxxxxxx
      @XxXHardcoreshredderxXXxxxxxxxx 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@stephenvale937what's a preamp and what's it good for?