Thanks for being here and glad you found it valuable. I made two more videos re: DRZ. one on the desert tank install tutorial and another on how to clean the carb. I do hope you stick around for other 3 reviews in the 650 category still remaining (XR650, Xchallenge, and SXC625), including the new KLR650 (in conversation with Kawasaki right now to get my hands on one). Safe travels and till next time - Nik
It's the middle of February up here in Canada... and I'm messaging a guy that's selling his 2007 DRZ400. I'm about 90% sure I am going to buy it. This video just secured the last 10%!!!
Great to hear it - you'll love it and I am glad this video was helpful in making your decision. Stay tuned for the carb cleaning and desert tank install tutorials for the DRZ. Cheers - and congrats! Nik
I rode one on the TAT (Trans America Trail) it held firm and did just fine. The best part is, it is a rip roaring blast of a fun ride. This motorcycle is awesome.
Oh that sounds like an awesome adventure. Especially on this bike. I am very glad you find the information valuable - thanks for being here and for participating in the conversation. I released a video in the first week of January listing all of what is to come this year so please take a look, and in the meantime thank you for being here and I look forward to hearing from you in the future. Best. Nik
I’ve been researching dual sports and ADV bikes for about a year now. I’ve printed spreadsheets and torque numbers I’ve researched everything form the 250L - Husqvarna 701 and beyond. I have always come full circle to the DRZ400 and every time I say to myself keep researching... I think it’s time to get my first bike and it’s going to be a DRZ400
Have you looked into the KTM SXC625? I ask because although the numbers tell one story, the actual performance can be so very different. I would say try the KTM (or wait from my review - I am in love with this bike and amazed at the performance - same wight but much more powerful). Thanks for being here and for participating in the conversation - I look forward to hearing about what you ultimately chose. Cheers - Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours I will look into this today, I’m an odd ball who actually loves researching bikes etc. I haven’t even heard of this bike maybe an outlier will upset the current choice I’m excited to see :) I appreciate the input!
It’s a great bike for serious off road. The Tenere 700 may be a better value if you plans to spend more time on road than off. I have the v85tt for touring. Shovel head for cruising.
@@DKrappenschitzADV and dual sport is very niche. For the price of that KTM you could buy a $3.5K DRZ and a $2.5K SV650 or Suzuki Bandit and still spend less than that KTM. Dual Sports are a blast but it's nice to also have a dedicated street bike for riding with other people with street bikes.. If you go out with a group of guys on cruisers or any street only bikes over 500cc you will struggle to keep up without straining the bike and dual sports are fatiguing after an hour or so upright in the wind at 70mph. If all you can afford is one bike and you really want it to be dirt capable it's hard to beat the value of the DRZ, if you want a great street bike that can do mile trail and fire roads look into a used 650 Vstrom.
Outstanding review! I own a 2021 DRZ and I love it. Do I consider it a great Adventure Touring bike. Probably not. Do I consider it a great Dual-sport or Enduro Bike. Heck Yes! The drz is a tractor. If you are short legged less than 34” beware of seat height. You will need a new seat 345.00. Pannier mounts and bags 500 and up. Change the rear tire to a 50/50 or more aggressive. Radiator guards 150.00. The down side is Touring the bike struggles above 65. Fuel range is around 110 miles before reserve. My other bike is a V85TT. Oh and sand loves speed deep sand loves more speed.
Excellent commentary on all accounts - thanks for these valuable points - I love hearing form owners. I am very happy you found the review valuable. Stick around for a similarly weighed but more powerful and capable KTM SXC635 review coming in the near future. Thanks for being here! Nik
Great review! The most honest I’ve seen for this bike! You’re the first person I’ve heard that hasn’t whined about the wait. Last bike I had was a 750 pound cruiser, Yamaha V*1100. I live in the Northeast, specifically Vermont and my choice has been between the DR 650 and a DRZ 400. I’ve made my choice and it’s going to be the DRZ 400. I currently own a Honda XR 400 but the wheelbase is a little shorter so it’s a little Squirrley on the pavement and it would cost me about $2000 to put an electric start on it. Thanks again, I have subbed Looking forward to more reviews! Cheers from Vermont!
Greetings and thanks for being here - glad the review was helpful. You won't go wrong with the DRZ, especially if you are coming from a similar bike already. The other bike that I've recently been riding is a KTM 625 SXC - and it too is in the 300lb range, but has a kick start as well as electric, and is just incredibly torquey. If you see one, check it out before making a purchase, but keep in mind parts and maintenance is more diffiicult. Good luck to you.
Great video. I own a klx250s and my brother owns a drz400s. We have done thousands of miles at 70 mph with stock gearing and also 14-44 gearing. It has been a great bike. My 250 is a little underpowered on tarmac above 60 mph; the drz always has enough power even at 10,000+ feet above sea level. I am thinking of getting a drz because it is the smallest cc and lightest bike that does eveything I want to do.
Thanks for being here - be sure too also look into the competition. For example I picked up both my KTM 625 and BMW Xchallenge for less $$$ than the DRZ, and they are both simply better bikes in all respects, the beemer being most advanced, the ktm being most beastly. Good luck and do tell me what you end up with! Cheers - Nik
The title is perfect. This is the most complete review. Especially the asides to competitors and extras ,things you dont like , things you;ve modified. Thank you greatly for your time in making this. Very useful.
Glad you found the video useful and glad to have you here. Thanks for participating in the conversation and for the complement. I made two how to videos about the drz, carb cleaning and desert tank instal, so check them out if you have one. I also have reviewe nearly ever ADV 650 thumper on the used market in this similar fashion. Cheers. Nik
Great review...super thorough, thanks! Wow, 37inches is high - I'm 5-8 as well with 30in inseam sounds like that would be a stretch for me...I rode the DRZ SM and that was ok but it sits lower on the smaller wheel size but also has stiffer suspension. My Triumph is 32in and perfect, hard to imagine an extra 5in in seat height...
Hi there. Thanks for being here, and glad you found it valuable. Yes, the bike is tall, but the suspension is soft and sags as soon as you weigh it. So don't let this intimidate you - I too am 5.8 and 32 inseam.I made a tutorial of how to clean the carb and also instal an aftermarket desert tank for the DRZ. I have reviewed most of the 650 ADV thumpers on this channel, so please take a look through my videos - I find the BMW XChallenge to be a very worth competitor to the DRZ. I also still have in my garage waiting to get reviewed the Honda XR650L and KTM SXC 625. Also, some great news, Kawasaki invited me to their press release and extended review of the new KLR being release later this year so stick around for that and please consider subscribing to be informed when these come out. In the meantime, thanks again for being here! Cheers - Nik
This has to be one of the best DRZ400 reviews I've seen and thanks for taking us along for the ride ! 👍 Have a 2004 Suzuki RM250 for dirt action and love it but looking something to " Enduro" / road ride and the DRZ400 sounds like the bike .
Thank you for watching and for taking the time to participate in the conversation. I haven't owned anything under 400 CC's and not sure if I would be Keen enough to keep something smaller than that. The DRZ was a pleasant surprise. Right now I'm riding the KTM 690sxc which is only about 35 lb heavier but similar off-road performance pushing another 50 plus horsepower.
Is that so? Why do you think? Ant bejist gravity - eother system is under tremendous hydraulic pressure. I've not heard of that, than you for sharring?
I agree with you, I have owned one for the last five years. I like it as a duel sport but I would have to find a better seat before I would want to use it as an adventure bike. The blanket idea you use may be a good option.
Thanks for watching. It's actually not a blanket but a seat cushion made out of wool which the Aussies are famous for. It's not motorcycle specific but they make plenty that are. Other option is the airhawk style but all these raise you higher.
Coming from a normal 2 stroke dirbike background, it doesn't feel light but it is light enough to pick up, light enough to do almost everything, a slightly slower pace, and light compared to most street legal bikes.
For me this has been the lightest motorcycle I've owned, and until my recent purchase of the Honda CRF 250 Rally, also the one with the smallest displacement. So it's all about perspective. Of you watch my review of the Yamaha super Tenere, it helps to tour on a big heavy bike because you'll see that 600 pound plis machine get thrown around by the wind in Eastern Sierras. Thanks for watching and please tune on this Friday as I announce a private tour of that amazing area. Cheers Nik
I like how you make your videos in a no-nonsense no-bs way. They are informative and feel sincere. I also like that you have the common sense to use a tripod and a proper microphone :) That being said, I wish Suzuki made a more touring and less dirt orientated version of DRZ400. Like put on a comfortable seat, a larger tank with some wind protection for the legs, maybe shorter suspension travel (lower seat), and some luggage hauling ability. Essentially more like the 650 but in 400. All the 650 thumpers become way too heavy if you drop them or if you come across a bit of the road that's technically challenging. I have travelled to the Sahara on a Yam XT600E and while it was perfect on the dirt roads, sometimes I would come across a really difficult spot and then it was an anvil. OK I admit I'm not a greatly skilled rider either, that's why I stick to the roads lol, but dirt roads in Africa can and do have difficult spots. Cheers!
Greetings and thanks for watching and talking the time to comment. I appreciate your support. I agree that most modern adv bikes are way too heavy. I personally rode a KTM sxc625 (review will be up this weekend), and a bmw g650xchallenge, both under 350 lb but with plenty of power. Hondas XR650L is also about there. That's another review in the making so please stay tuned. I'm going to review every 650 thumper adv in the used market. Cheers. Nik
Excellent review, bought my DRZ400 a couple years ago-love it, setting it up for BDR, now. It’s been a great trainer, I have moved up to a t7 but the DRZ is best for the type of riding you showed in the video! Cheers
Thanks for watching. Glad to hear you enjoyed the review and the bike. This weekend please tune in for what I think is my best review yet, of my Yamaha super tenere. It addresses the exact opposite question of this one, if it's too BIG for serious ADV touring. I hope to see you there. Cheers. Nik
I agree that the DRZ makes a great adventure bike. I have a DRZ and a GS 650. While the latter is a great road bike, it's just way too heavy for dirt riding for me. The DRZ is light enough to be nimble on the road and on the dirt, and has the power to take on highways for moderate stints when needed, a true dual sport!
Thanks so much for watching. I appreciate it. Yes, the DRZ is one heck of a machine. PS - please consider subscribing cause the review of the Royal Enfield Himalayan will be released this weekend - supposedly a direct competitor in this class.
Thanks for the message and for watching. Yeah no doubt its a light bike but on a steep hill with all the gear and the heat, it will take the breath out of the best of us. Safe travels and please stay tuned and consider subscribing to get notified when the new reviews drop, three more in the light adv thumper class including the KTM SXC625 which is similar in weight but more powerful and capable to the drz. Also, I made tutorials on how to clean the carb and instal desert tank on the DRZ. Cheers. Nik
Tires are only good for 5-7 years so they would always act as nothing more but placeholders. But yes, I'd avoid putting any miles on these tires. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for watching and I am happy to hear you thing my review is accurate. I appreciate hearing from viewers from so far away. PS - I recently released a review of another 411CC "ADV" bike, the Himalayan, and will be releasing a review of the KTM SXC625 which is a direct competitor to this bike so I hope you tune in for those. Safe travels - Nik
the e model is road legal in australia and new zealand it comes with blinkers,speedo full rear subframe it's lighter and significantly more powerful than the s model. e model was discontinued in usa in 07 but its never been out of production it's still currently sold in aus/nz and typically comes with an enduro kit, barkbusters,radiator guards, bashplate and exhaust tip. 20-21 e models came with a cape york edition which added pro taper bars, grips and pirelli scorpion knobbies. i've had two e models an 03 and a 20 cape york edition. i did a 7000km trip in outback australia through 4 states and crossed the simpson dessert solo unsupported. there isn't really anything like the drz400 in aus it's won desert races, national motocross and enduro titles, even supercross round wins. but the best thing about it is it fits ina broad category of usefulness from just short of pro level enduro to commuting to work or across continents.
Wow- thanks so much for that valuable info - I have quite a few form the audience form your neck of the woods asking about this bike, so I am glad to be able to point them to this comment. It really is an amazing motorcycle. I have experienced the KTM SXC635 after it and it blew me away as well - there is definitely a stronger appeal to lighter more dirt capable ADV bikes. I invite you to un through the motorcycle review playlist on this channel to get inspired about other options available in the 650 ADV category. I have reviewed/or am editing reviews of nearly every 650 ADV touring motorcycle in the used market. If you enjoyed this I invite you to definitely take a look at the most watched video on my channel, and that is a review of the DR650 vs KLR650 th-cam.com/video/xiHzulc5r7s/w-d-xo.html Kawasaki liked it so much they invited me to the press release of the new KLR later in the year so please consider subscribing to get notified when that comes out. Also, this Saturday at noon I will premier a new review of the Honda NC700X - another great bike for the ADV community, and at the end I show which other 650 Thumper reviews are upcoming. Be well in the meantime and I hope to hear form you in the future. Cheers, Nik
Well put although in my book sub 300 pound machines are hardly pigs. It's all what one is used to - for me this has been the lightest bike I have owned but I have since picked up a KTM SXC625 - same in weight but loads more power - pretty much in love with this bike. Thanks for participating in the conversation.
Thanks for being here - glad you found it useful and informative. Please stay tuned for other reviews in the thumper class - in the meantime, stay safe and thanks for participating in the conversation.
Great review....It is the middle ground between KLR heafy cockroach and CRF450 Death machine. I will probably buy one for my step son to learn to ride on....I'm a KLR hardcore. He wants the CRF450 but dumping a teenager loose on a 50 horsepower 275 lbs bike... seems a bit irresponsible. 40 hp, easier to maintain thumper seems more the way to go.
I think your logic there is very sound - Learning to control and respect a bigger, less capable bike will give him more of the teenage male would likely benefit from early in his riding career. I did quite a few reviews of 650 thumper ADV bikes on this channel and three more are upcoming. This Saturday at noon I am premiering the review of my Honda NC700X - an awesome bike and an exciting platform for ADV touring so I hope you consider subscribing and running in - this might be a good bike for him to get learned on - it's very tame. At the end I show what three bikes reviews are in the making - all direct competitors to the KLR. Be well I the meantime and thanks for being part of this channel community. Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours Subscribed I shall, but you are going to have to cover another potential purchase. The mighty Tenere 700 is really burning a hole in my pocket after FortNine's review. Anyway, digging the channel. It has that Alex Chacon feel which is nice since he originally got me into adventure riding.
Great vid. One note about those bike trays. Most small vehicles won’t have the vehicle tongue weight rating to sufficiently haul a Drz. That’s something you don’t wanna guess on. Overweighted trailer tongues can mess up a car frame :)
Great point - not all small vehicles can or should tow. But the great thing about these bikes is that so many bike racks have a weight limit of 400lb permitting the carrying of this bike. That was actually a big reason for me getting a lighter bike - I can carry it anywhere we go as a family. Thanks for this tip, and thanks for being here and for participating in the conversation. I released a video in the first week of January listing all of what is to come this year so please take a look, and in the meantime thank you for being here and I look forward to hearing from you in the future. Best. Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours I actually got a tow hitch installed on my 2018 Subaru Outback with the intention of adding a motorcycle tray / attachment to it (cuz i REALLY didnt want to pull a trailer, and most importantly, STORE a trailer ) only to learn later that the 'toungue-weight 'rating for my vehicle, is maximum of 200 lbs.. (tongue weight being the MAXiMUM weight / downward force that my specific vehicle's back end is rated for, meaning, an attachment that does NOT have wheels (like a trailer) and ONLY relies on the car's hitch to 'hold up' a load (nothing touches the ground other than your standard 4 car tires) . Mind you, the actual capacity of both the installed hitch, and envisioned bike tray was WELL above that .. 500/700+ lbs if i remember.. so forgive me if this is old news to you, you do have to go by your vehicles 'toungue weight capacity' .. its the weakest link in the setup.. Its pointless to put a hitch / tray rated to 1000lbs, or whatever, if the tongue weight capacity for that vehicle is only 200 lbs. .ive heard bad stories about bent frames, and scrwed up body panels from folx trying to overload their car.. again, if this is already known, disregard ;)
Yes , it would make more sense to get the bigger bike if you intend on riding the highway often. The DRZ would strain for long periods above 60mph, with gear, etc. Thanks for your question - I am releasing three more 650 reviews (Honda XR650L, KTM625 SXC, and BMW XChallenge) So please consider subscribing to get notified when those go out, after which this channel will have reviewed every relevant 650 ADV bike on the market. Good luck searching.
The decision between a DR-Z and a DR has gotten more interesting over the years. Procycle has shaved a custom-suspended, big-bored/cammed DR down to 320lb curb, and also offers wider-ratio tranny gearsets for both big Suzuki dualsports. DR-Z500Ss can put out over 60WHP these days too. Do you want an aluminum or steel subframe? High or low seat? Fat or skinny dualsport? To carry a passenger? The DR-Z has better clearance. It can be shaved below 300lb curb. A kicker kit might still be available for it. A DR tends to feel more planted on windblown slab. It has a little more space for a passenger. Either moto can be customized quite a bit now.
love the blue color def wanna get this for my first bike sense i'm new to motorcycles and i love bikes and i never ridden one before so this color and this bike is what i'm looking for for my first bike and never learned how to know/used clutch before sense this is my first time
I'm glad you found it valuable. I also do a video on how to clean the carb on this motorcycle, as well as how to install an aftermarket desert tank in case you are interested. Happy holidays
Thank you tha k you, glad to have you on board. I beleive by next week I will own a brand new Himalayan 400 so please stay tuned for more. If the 650s are of interest to you, this channel has reciewed most of them on the used market. Also I habe added to videos re: instaling the desert tank, and cleaning the carb on the DRZ Cheers. Nik
Nice review cobber, I love how you see the robust nature of such bikes. Yeah sure there are sacrifices but not everywhere is as populated as the United states. Sometimes you need to hammer and Gaffa tape, the drz is an awesome machine!
Well said - got to appreciate the utilitarian and proletarian nature of fun bikes that are easy to own and last. I do have to say though that my KTM SXC 635 is putting all these to shame, but the DRZ has been fun to own. Thanks for being here! Nik
Thank you thank you - Yeah, I've collected every sort of back contraption one could imagine, but nothing replaces old fashioned exercise. Stay tuned for that and thanks for tuning in - cheers - Nik
Thanks so much for being here and for the support. I posted a video early this year about all the reviews that are in the making so it will be an exciting year ahead. Thanks for being a part of it - Cheers - Nik
Good video pegasus!!. I actually got a drz400e with supermoto wheels a few weeks ago (still have my KLR). It is so much fun, poping wheelies everywhere haha, but honestly for trips or more than a few kilometers on highway I still prefer the KLR, I feel so unprotected on the DRZ, no fairing, windscreen etc. DRZ is fine for messing around or short trips but no way to do a trip two up for 15k kms like a did on the KLR
Thanks - the 400E is actually a dirt version, not street legal here, so definitely not meant for the highway. I had the S version which is the street version. Does you bike have blinkers? IF it's the dirt version of the 400, then the gearing is definitely prejudiced toward low speed torque - hence the wheelies.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours it is the E version (2007 year) for sure, but with sumo tires. No blinkers nor speedo, no kickstart, conventional forks. Fun bike though!
Same with me, klr650 for long trips, drz400e for the rough stuff. Neither has cost me anywhere near the cost of replacing parts on my BMW GS1200, plus no recalls ha
@@Geetarhed for the cost of a GS, I got a KLR, DRZ and Vstrom 1000. Couldn't be happier, although I am not allowed at starbucks haha. Drive shaft may be nice tough
@@Geetarhed for the cost of a GS, I got a KLR, DRZ and Vstrom 1000. Couldn't be happier, although I am not allowed at starbucks haha. Drive shaft may be nice tough
Nothing like a cultic bike w/ lots of followers & an abundance of parts.... speaking of which ; I see you w/ the S model but wouldn't you want the suspension from the SM model? At least the front forks which are an inverted set? I was thinking about all those bikes laying around & perhaps you can tell me if the SM model inverted forks a direct swap-out with the S model? I might not have the extra $1000 to buy the SM version but I think there will be some excess bikes out there & I'd like the added control you might get from those front-forks? What say you, Mr. Pegasus ? I like this bike & I'm getting closer but trying to find out those last little ideas so I'll have direction? Nahh, who needs direction >> > just aim -n- go Go GO ~ it's that easy. peace
Apparently the E model which is dirt only has slightly different suspension and carb as well. I can't say for certain, but I think it should be a simple swap between all 3 models. I can't imagine Suzuki would design three sets of triple trees or mounting points to be different.
Great review ... tks Adventure by yourself: Efi and air shock!!! good luck.... I hear a fuel pump goes out and you have trouble. And the efi throttle just is not the same... everyone likes something different though!!! I would never have an air shock or fork... tough enough on them on a mtb bike and that weighs 25 lbs... lol...
All great and valid points - ADV bikes ought to be simple, reliable, and easy to keep on the road. I too get pulled one way or another with each ADV bike I own - my current Challenge has air suspension in the rear, the Honda XR650L I am reviewing net has it I the front, the KTM SXC625 also parked I the garage is awesome but a challenge to find parts for. I don't mind EFI per se, it's been in the market for over 100 years actually, first used I airplanes at the turn of the century, but you are right about the fuel pump. I appreciate your comment and you being an active member of this channel's community - please consider subscribing to be informed when the following reviews of three more ADV bikes in the 650 category come out throughout the following months (Honda XR650L, KTM SXC625, and BMW Xchallenge). Cheers - Nik
i just picked up a 2000 drz400e which is same bike afaik without street legal capabilities. was a steal and is a good bike! for $875 i couldnt turn it down lol
That is a steal. Good on you. Excellent question. I know it will require an emissions canister and blinkers. A trip or a few to the DMV to get looked over. I've never done it myself so can't say for sure in detail.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours Ah man i just did a search basically saying because its a drz400E no way i can get a title in california at all for it to be street legal only offroad. unless i title in another state but idk how i can do that
Thanks for being here. I made two more instructional videos for the drz, how to clean the carb and how to instal the desert tank. The are is Wildomar OHV. Ps, I just picked up a brand new Royal Enfield Himalayan (doesnt compare to the drz other than a 411cc engine) and a few more thumper adv reviews are coming up ao please conaider subacribing. One in particular might interest you and that is the KTM 625 sxc. Thanks for the spport. Cheers. Nik
I had a drz400e for a moment last year and didn't keep it because of the cons when using on road and I felt that it was never pleasant on and off road. Off road it is too heavy, on road it was terrible(seat, behaviour, noise, high rpm,...). I believe the main reason people consider it is the price when buying one. I sold it and bought a xt660r which is much better on road, but worse off road and this fits for me because I need to ride for a long time on road to reach anything off road where I live.
Yeah, the highway capability is definitely lacking for the DRZ, but I never actually found it terrible, as I expected to. In it's stock form with stock tires it was quite alright - surprisingly so. I think tires have a lot to do with it, and the stock Bridgestones are very much street oriented. In the end there are comparable/better bikes to be had for the same price roughly, so I moved on from the DRZ, but I hope the review helps people inform their decision. Your comment will help someone for sure, so thank you for participating in the conversation. Stay safe - Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours Usually people by the drz to get from home to the trail with no law issues. Most of those bikes where I live are plated and with dirt bike tires and upgrades, people are using them to get to the trails without the annoying truck load offload part. They are terrible for street riding in that shape. But you can also put different gearing and street tires and have it highway comfortable. After all there is no perfect ground for street and off road combo. I personally have drz plated with dirt tires and use it to get to the trail which is actually 40-50% of my riding, other 50% is hard trails.
I've got the "E" version in Australia.....pumper carb, stage 2 cams, few other factory differences to the S model, we also get that here. Love my little yellow Pig.....tough as old boots, great value, easy to own.
I've heard through other comentarios that for you down under the E is street legal. I've no experience with it but would be curious considering the better performance. Right now my ktm sxc625 is keeping me busy and smiling. Thanks for participating in the conversation. Cheers.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours I've owned that also, very similar, the Dizzer feels like a smaller, less refined version. I still miss the LC4 but I rode the thing into the ground, selling being my most cost effective option in the end.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours Yes it is fully road legal in all states, most common dual sport sold in Aus for 20 years....literally everywhere. I owned the KTM LC4 before the Dizzer, it reminds me of it, just a smaller, less refined version, without that mountainous torque but enough for me now as I'm getting well into middle age.
I had a DRZ 400S years ago and liked it for off road because I'm on the smaller size. The only issue that bothered me was the buffeting on the road due to its light weight.
@@shea2750 Yup - completely stock save for skid plate, desert tank and rental bar. It also has a lot to do with the tires and the stock tires are road oriented.
I used to have DRZ400S, bought a more trail oriented bike, and I’m in the market for an SM now. Watching this video and you mention your problem with carpal tunnel. I have (had) the same problem on my S. I installed FasstCo Flex Bars and the problem is no longer an issue for me. Like you, I had gotten to the point of wearing braces at night, etc. The flex bars, now on my CRF, were the solution.
Thanks so much for taking the time to watch the review and participate in the conversation. I particularly am grateful for your tip since my carpal tunnel syndrome is getting pretty serious although the braces do help. I might do a video on that since I assume it's a fairly common problem with riders. I'll look into your recommendation as well. If you enjoyed this review, I have reviewed nearly every adventure touring dumper on the used market in case you are comparing. The next review releasing will be off my BMW 650 x challenge which weighs about the same as the DRZ I'll be at is much more capable in every respect. Be well and I hope to hear from you in future reviews.
That was a wonderful video. Thank you for making it. I'm really torn between the 400 and the dr650. I just don't know what I'm going to enjoy more. Get on those trails in the forest (long distance high speed ride to get there) or single track in the desert right outside my house. Idk yet. Your right about the resell value though. If its not for me ill just sell it. Either way I really appreciate the video!
Glad you found them useful - please be sure to check out my DR650 review - I compare it to the KLR - definitely an amazing bike - was going to check one out today with 10k miles for $2.5 - that is the beauty - easy and cheap to own, and resell. If you plan on doing long stretches of 60mph plus, with a lot of luggage, the 650 is a better bet. If you need an all around bike that will mostly be seeing difficult dirt - 400 is the answer. Good luck and thanks for being here!
Depending what experience you have, if you don't have much experience get drz400 for learning, few years later you can go bigger after you learn how to handle trails good. That 650 is hard to pick up but fun if you know what you doing.
I couldn’t decide between the DRZ-400S and the KLR-650, so I bought the DRZ first, rode it 8000 miles, then bought a KLR 650 because I went riding with a buddy that had a KLR 650 and couldn’t keep up with him on the freeway or off road?? I was shocked, so, this the conclusion I came to. I’m going to keep both (which was never the plan) I was going to sell one of them to replace the other bike. But they have their pros and cons and you kinda need both bikes depending on what kind of riding your going to do. If I had to choose one…it would be the KLR 650, only because the seat is so comfortable, it has a 6 gallon tank and can go 300 miles. But I love my DRZ, its so much lighter and so much fun to take off road. If you can, buy both. Your DR650 and the DRZ. If you had to choose which one first. Ask yourself what are you going to do more? If your on Dirt more, buy the DRZ, if your on the road more get the DR650. Both are awesome bikes…
@@BoyFindsTako thanks! I actually ended up trading my suzuki intruder 1500 for a 86 klr650. Been riding around the desert getting ues to the dirt and having fun. Im now looking to get a klx 300 next year. My klr does not perform well enough on the highway to warrant how heavy it is (in my opinion). P.S. in the back of my mind i do wonder what it would be like to hop on a drz and fly up everything but im getting to the point where i want to try fuel injection. Im hoping it will make things simpler and more reliable.
Thank you for watching. I've reviewed nearly everyone of its competitors so please run through my playlist to find them. Ive also made a tutorial on how.to remove and clean the drz carb and install the larger desert tank. Cheers. Nik
Thank you for the suggestion - riders who come to this video to learn and make a decision will surely appreciate the advice - as do I. Thanks much and safe travels. Greetings from San Diego.
Ironic you mention the WR250r as it's main competition (Not the 300 crf or klx) ;) The WRr is a great bike and if Suzuki would update this bike to what the WRr has with a 6 speed gearbox and fuel injection, they would have a killer bike Sadly Yamaha never made a WR 400r and Suzuki just sits on its butt, if either builds that bike, it will create a new buzz like ADV bikes a few years ago (as long as riding areas don't get restricted)
I've had the crf250 rally and was utterl unimpressed especially by the suspension on stock form. I did experience and upgraded 300L and that was a pleasant surprise but money was thrown into it. Thanks for watching.
I just rode in the dirt for the first time the other day, but I fell on a turn and broke a rib! 😔 I figure my tires may not have been suited for the soft sand I hit, but I'm sure it's because I'm a newer rider too. Any advice?
Dang friend, sorry to hear that - I've been there - rib injuries take a long time to heal but you'll be back at it soon enough. Take the time to learn as much about dirt and ADV riding as you can ( keeping in mind theory will only take one so far). Were you riding these OEM tires? In any case, always be sure to air down your tires when you hit dirt - 15/18 front and rear is a good heuristic but it all depends on how nasty the dirt is - if there are sharp rocks that can give you pinch flats or not - air down a little at a time and see where the bike feels the most positive. (for this reason you need to carry a pump of some sort - electric is fastest if your bike has an outlet). First step of course is to consider better tires - there are so Many out there to choose from but if you want a top of the line dirt capable tire that is long lasting and great ton pavement, The Heidenaus K60s are the gold standard. If money is a factor, Shinko makes the 704 or the more dirt oriented 804/805 option. Metzeler is another German product that is great, and the Continental TKC80 is the sexiest of the bunch. I touch on all these throughout all of my motorcycle reviews since this Chanel focuses on the ADV lifestyle. So perhaps take sometime while you are healing to go through some of these videos of mine - I think you will learn a lot in the process. How you load the bike, and even how you ditch a falling bike is all something that is learned over time, and so I hope you didn't loose fate in the ADV riding game because it's the most satisfying type of riding one can do on a bike. You'll heal and you'll become a better rider I due time, and the DRZ is a great bike to learn on. The next review is about the carb cleaning process of the DRZ (I hope you have seen the desert tank tutorial release last month) so get to know this bike in your time off the saddle so that you are more confident with it when you are alone in the dirt. The next videos planned for this year, aside from more ADV touring bike review deal with other maintenance that tis fairly basic but vital for any ADV rider, tire care/file repair, tire choices, geared packing advice, tents and sleeping options, etc etc etc. Please consider subscribing so that you can be informed when these come out - there Russo much advice ahead and I wish you a fast healing in the meantime. Glad to have you here. Cheers -Nik
Thanks for the thoughtful and in-depth reply! I appreciate the advice. I was likely being a little irresponsible and impatient trying it out on 80 street/20 dirt tires (not even sure of the PSI), but I definitely want to do it right next time. I'm subscribed now, and I'm looking forward to checking out more of your stuff. Thanks for the motivation! If you ever find yourself in Eastern Oregon, let me know!
@@googles333 I'm a beginner as well. That must have been painful, sorry to hear. Thanks for asking the question because I also read the in depth answer as I have also hit some loose dirt/sand and went down! It happened very easily, but I'm gonna take my time and learn a little at a time. I hope you feel better soon and become confident and awesome at riding in the dirt!
I'm still on the fence between the DRZ400 and DR650 for my daily commuter and first ever offroad-capable bike. I don't really do adventure touring, this would be my daily commuter bike doing up to 90km/h (55mph) every day, and weekend light dirt. The poblem is, I do highways, ideally 120-130km/h (75-80mph) for two or three hours every month or two. With the DRZ I'd have to hold it at an uncomfortable RPM, or just leave an hour early and go 90(55). I sometimes do group rides, so I'd either slow everyone down or just go alone earlier. I want a dual sport because I moved to a forest some time ago, and I have a shitton of dirt roads all around me. I've never done any off-road on a bike, apart from the time I dropped my 650lbs tourer on a patch of sand. Also the lightest bike I've ever owned in my life was 210kg, aka 460lbs, so either the DR or the DRZ will be feathers for me. I really want to want the DRZ, but I'm wondering if the highway riding / reasonable RPM speed limit is a dealbreaker or not. Also as I've never done offroad, I don't know if I'll like, not like, or love it. I also don't know how tough of terrain and dirt riding I'll do, my current plan is to start basically on dirt or fire roads and go from there.
Hi there. If this is your very first off road bike, and most of your needs are for higher speed commuting, I would definitely recommend the 650. The DRZ is for more serious ADV touring enthusiasts who need a lighter bike for really difficult terrain. The highways speeds are also more taxing on the rider and bike on the DRZ. I hope this helps push you in the right direction. In any case, ride both before buying so you know what fits your needs. I am very glad you find the information valuable - thanks for being here and for participating in the conversation. I released a video in the first week of January listing all of what is to come this year so please take a look, and in the meantime thank you for being here and I look forward to hearing from you in the future. Best. Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours Thanks! The DR650 is cheaper than a DRZ where I live, so I guess I'll just buy the DR. As I said, this will be the lightest bike I will have ever owned, so it'll be great regardless :D
@@Itsjake908 Honda Transalp :D I thought about it some more, neede time to get the money together, and decided that I don't need a single cylinder bike. 90% of my off-roading is dirt forest roads that cars drive, so it's good enough for me.
I would say that it's not just the injection itself. You need a fuel pump also.. Too much electronics. I am one of these people that are full retro on motorcycle fuel systems. I had to make repairs on my brother's bmw 1200 fuel pump several times.. My Transalp even don't have one.. So it's a + or me. The injection works perfectly until it's not
Oh the transalp - super difficult and rare to find here Stateside - I would love to own one. Next time I am in your neck of the woods I might just look you up for a ride - cheers - Nikola
Hi, Can you put a link to the replacement tank install, please, I can't find it among your video list. I still have the metal tank which is heavy for its size and prone to dents and scrapes. I have increased the range and cruising speed with a 39 rear sprocket ( (110 asphalt miles?tankful at around 70mph, at the expense of off road capability) but a bigger tank would make all the difference. Cheers
Hi there and thanks for being here. Yes the bigger tank makes all the difference and is a must for any ADV trips. That video is presently being edited and should be up early next week. It will be the next review to go live so please consider subscribing to get notified when it does. Its not a too difficult job, but it does have a few tricky steps so a video guide will be helpful, I hope. Be well in the meantime and thanks for being here. (PS, I am also releasing a carb cleaning tutorial for the DRZ). Cheers - Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours Thanks for responding. Will await with interest. Sources for this brand or any other DRZ400S compatible tank seem very limited here in UK but still worth exploring I think
Hi there. Video is rendering and will be uploaded tomorrow. Thabks for your patience. As for brands that make these desert tanks - IMS and Acerbis are the more common in this side of the pond.
I like your video, but is there some reason why you are falling over in every riding shot? Either you spend a lot of time picking up your bike, or you are trying to make a point about the DRZ400S? Seems like you are passionate about the DRZ400S - me too. Great video 🤙
Glad you liked it. I have since switched to a KTM and find myself falling over much less. Please consider subscribing to get notified when that review of the SXC625 comes out in two weeks. It's this bikes direct competitor. I'm also releasing the review of the Himalayan but that's not a good bike. Cheers. Nik
Just now coming across this video. I think today's ADV riders have made ADV riding over complicated. This has pushed brands to push bikes to extreme limits. People will say there is no wrong answer. The answer is when diminishing returns provides no or only marginal benefits for the cost and effort.
This review was awesome man! Buying my DRZ is one of the best decisions I've ever made! I have an 02 and I ride it at least 400-500 miles every weekend around southern OR/NorCal, from the mountains to the coast! I think that alone attests to how reliable these bikes are. I rebuilt the top end last year, and from that experience I can say that finding parts for these bikes is a piece of cake! The customization options are also amazing, I actually installed a headlight for a Chevy Blazer in mine! Mosko Moto also makes a killer Rackless ADV Bag with waterproof inner bags that come in 40L and 80L sizes and include a heat guard for the muffler, definitely a worthy investment for $490. I hope you come to Oregon and ride some day! I work here as a videographer and think we could make some kickass content together dude, keep rippin'! Also, how is that Everest bag at 21:05 secured to the fairing?
Thanks for watching and for the support. I am glad you liked the video. 500 mikes in a weekend is impressive (especially on this seat). Thanks for the luggage recommendation. The everest bag is drilled throufh the fairing and held via zip ties. That was not my bike. I appreciate the invite, a d will keep your contact - that might actually happen in the future, I know that area has some of the best riding. Be well in the meantime and be sure to check out my other two videos on the drz. One is for carb cleaning and the other for the desert tank instal. Cheers. Nik
No doubt - small bikes like this make so much more sense for hardcore ADV touring. Thanks for participating in the conversation. A new review of the Honda NC700X goes live next Saturday so I hope you join the premier. Cheers - Nik
I think that is a solid choice and a wise request - anyone looking to buy new and reading these comments for guidance will also appreciate the tip. Thanks for participating in the conversation.
Own a drz 400e In south Africa also a drz 400sm both2005 from new ridden daily since new have never had to even tighten a spoke. Change oil and filter clean air filter and go. Also have two dl650 vstroms for trips around Africa where I live, never an issue also have one BMW gs1200 which I only took on one trip of 1200 kms and the trans failed , it ate a bearing plus the fuel pump electronic controller shut the engine off. Pure disaster. Many miles from home. Nicks on BMW bikes totally unreliable. However fun to ride, just rebuilt a real BMW a 1983 r100rs very fixable on the side of the road and still fun to ride. Bottom line, the so called modern premium high quality BMW is trash compared to to a stock suzuki thank you. Cheers from sunny south africa
Dont stress over it. Both bikes are easy to find and buy or sell. I'd suggest you rent one and see if its for you. What tipe of touring do you intend with it? If its lots of highway or above 60mph than the big brother is a better option. This one is today crossing from Mexico into Belize-Gene finaly is on his journey. Cheers. Nik.
Lol I did the opposite. Funny how that works. I have a 500x with rally raid kit and it's world's better than my dr was offroad weirdly enough. Easier to pickup too. Only thing is it weighs a lot more so I have to be careful not to get her stuck in a mud hole.
Would you recommend this bike for a new rider. I have lots of experience with atv ridding and mountain biking and downhill. So I would hope those skills can translate well to a motorcycle?
Yes, this bike is perfect for beginner riders who are new to the ADV touring game because with all the gear it's going to feel a lot heavier than a mountain bike that you are used to (needless to say) but it will still be very forgiving and manageable. When you are ready to grow out of it, look into my other 650 ADV bike reviews. Thanks for being here and good luck with the search.
Totally True - these might be the worse tires I've had on a bike. Questionable why they would even include them since they have such a terrible reputation. Thanks for being here - 3 more 650 review are in the making, and the next video is the Carb cleaning procedure for this bike. Cheers - Nik
Thanks so much amd glad to have you here. If you are considering one, please look at my other reviews of the 650 class for comparison. If you already have one, the last video released was about installing a large tank. The next one will be on how to remove and clean the carb on this bike. Hope to hear from you in the future. Cheers. Nik
I'm looking at a DRZ 400 supermoto right now I've had Hondas you know XR650L have had Yamaha XT650 but I've never had a 400 and it's been a few years since I've ridden so it might be a good bike to start on again. I found a 2020 with only 324 mi on it but the guy wants $7,000 so I don't know if that's a good deal or not anybody out there have any idea?
Hi. I'm releasing a review for f my xr650l where I compare it to the drz as well, bit not so much the super moto. The SM retails for about 7800 msrp, plus dealership markup, plus freight and assembly or whatever they choose to call it. Plus tax and document fees. So for a "new" bike, you will be saving at least a $1000-1500. It likely still has the warranty. Just ask that it is transferable.
Thanks for watching. They usually go for 4k so that price sound stoo good. How many miles? Is it the dirt E version or the s? Every market is didn't but that sounds like to good to be true so tread carefully
I haven't heard of that mod - would be awesome though. I made a similar tutorial for the DRZ on how to install the desert tank and how to clean the carb. PS this Sat a new video drops introducing my current 10 motorcycles and how subscribed viewers can one them at a great price so be sure to check it out. Cheers - Nik
Thanks for being here - glad you found it useful and informative. Please stay tuned for other reviews in the thumper class - in the meantime, stay safe and thanks for participating in the conversation.
Ain't that the truth. Luckily I was at the to of the mountain, and the gas station was at the bottom. Was like nice gliding down in neutral in silence. Thanks for watching. I made a video about how to clean the carb and another on installing the desert tank. Cheers. Nik
Funny you should ask. I picked one up some time ago and have been getting to know it - tomorrow is the second day of filming after having installed the Tusk luggage carriers with Moose Racing 47 liter side cases. It's Baja ready and in fact I will be taking it there to see Gene of (please watch the DR650 review) He is finally starting his adventure. I assume you have one or are curious about it? Thank you again for being here and for participating in the conversation. Three more 650 thumper reviews are in the making (Honda XR650L, KTM SXC625 and the XChallenge) so I hope you consider subscribing to be informed when they come out. The XR is next in line. I look forward to hearing from you then. Be well in the meantime - Nik
Thx Nik, yea I just hit the sub and bell. I have a new 2021 650l and did the hard (medium) Tusk bags. I have a YT channel (iffy signals) and i picked up the 650l for adventure touring around my state, we hunt for history and old home sites. Bought the tusks to carry equipment through the trails when finding old homesites. So far its been great. Ive put allot into it so far. Bags, led light, jet kit, new larger pegs, lowering link, risers. Usb ports for charging phones/cameras.. List goes on and on haha. But other than the 4.7 clark tank thats on the way its ready to roll. TC Mike
Thanks for that. I actually have a killer 2013 xr in the garage and am doing that right now. Just wanna make sure i have the chance to really know the bike first before reviewing it. So far a very possitive experience. Tha ks for being here and please consider subscribing to informed when that one comes out. Cheers Nik
I’m wanting the new drz400 motor cycle shops trying to sell me a 2019 with 1700 miles Kawasaki verses 300 for 5995 my heart is the 2022 suzuki400 it has jet kit nice pipe but it’s 8199 but I’m thinking it’s worth the difference any one have any comments I’m 250 and 6 feet two looking to carry on my bus to explore where I travel
Hi there. I don't have much experience with the versus but it will be nowhere near as capable on dirt as the drz. The Suzuki is also taller. You might be more comfortable on it. You'll have to stiffen the suspension but it's also much better on the Suzuki.
@@pegasusmotorcycletoursMy main reasoning is that there are better bikes for the task. The DRZ is the best dualsport on the planet in my opinion, but when you talk adv, it just doesn’t have the legs or comfort for longer trips IMO. I sold my T7 to go back to a drz400 though, if that is any testament to my love for the drz haha
MAN get some good TIRES otherwise you will keep dropping that bike all the time. You need dot dunlop 606 in the back and either same dunlop dot in front or pure off road in front for best ride. The tires you have are trouble.
Absolutely true - incredible how poor these tires perform. I am amazed that Suzuki sticks with them despite their terrible infamy. It's almost negligent (considering the tires are nicknamed DeathWings) Thanks for tuning in - 3 more 650 reviews are I the making so I hope to hear from you I the future. Cheers - Nik
I carry everything I need to live off the bike, eat, sleep, fix, and recreate while staying clean, fit, and satisfied while touring in any weather. I teach riders how to pack and tour long term on adv bikes. I'm. Akong a video about that too so stay tuned before you judge prematurely.
Thanks for that tip. Crazy that Suzuki would sell the bike with such useless tires. Thanks for sharing. I'll be filming the reviewed of this bikes competitor in the next two weeks so please consider subscribing to get notified when they come out. Cheers. Nik
Can't tell if you are complementing or mocking but in any case welcome to the channel and thanks for watching. This Sat a new video drops introducing my current 10 motorcycles and how subscribed viewers can one them at a great price so be sure to check it out. Cheers - Nik
Thanks so much for that comment, I actually just found that out a few days ago when I was looking at what's new in the Yamaha line. I was amazed by the specs when I first saw that bike, but I don't have experience with it. I wonder why they got rid of it. I would have been interested in buying one and will look for one on the used market.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours I'm thinking about the DRZ400SM. Smaller wheelbase, shorter seat height, inverted forks, nice handlebars, and only lose about an inch of ground clearance. And swap dirt tires for off road. Oh, also better brakes. They improved it a bit when they made the SM in 2005. Also different rear axle adjustment. Some surprising differences.
I have owned the crf 250Rally and with a little bit of money in the suspension, it's a fantastic bike. I don't know ow the xr400. But have owned the xr650l and it's a fantastic bike albeit too tall for.me.
Honda XR400r is its main competitor. Lighter than the DRZ400 since its aircooled. Has morr HP and torque I believe? They also made a super moto version in the form of XR400 Mugen. I have both, problem is, they dont produce the XR400 Anymore due a higher emission standards. Parts are a nightmare to find.
Thanks for watching. I've reviewed the Himalayan as well as nearly every 650 thumper adv bike on the market. Right now I'm riding the KTM 690enduro r which has similar weight and suspension travel but loads more power.
I’ve had a DRZ for 5 years and it’s the best! Great overview. Thanks for taking the time to make the video. Cheers from Canada.
Thanks for being here and glad you found it valuable. I made two more videos re: DRZ. one on the desert tank install tutorial and another on how to clean the carb. I do hope you stick around for other 3 reviews in the 650 category still remaining (XR650, Xchallenge, and SXC625), including the new KLR650 (in conversation with Kawasaki right now to get my hands on one). Safe travels and till next time - Nik
It's the middle of February up here in Canada... and I'm messaging a guy that's selling his 2007 DRZ400. I'm about 90% sure I am going to buy it. This video just secured the last 10%!!!
Great to hear it - you'll love it and I am glad this video was helpful in making your decision. Stay tuned for the carb cleaning and desert tank install tutorials for the DRZ. Cheers - and congrats! Nik
I rode one on the TAT (Trans America Trail) it held firm and did just fine. The best part is, it is a rip roaring blast of a fun ride. This motorcycle is awesome.
Oh that sounds like an awesome adventure. Especially on this bike. I am very glad you find the information valuable - thanks for being here and for participating in the conversation. I released a video in the first week of January listing all of what is to come this year so please take a look, and in the meantime thank you for being here and I look forward to hearing from you in the future. Best. Nik
I’ve been researching dual sports and ADV bikes for about a year now. I’ve printed spreadsheets and torque numbers I’ve researched everything form the 250L - Husqvarna 701 and beyond. I have always come full circle to the DRZ400 and every time I say to myself keep researching... I think it’s time to get my first bike and it’s going to be a DRZ400
Have you looked into the KTM SXC625? I ask because although the numbers tell one story, the actual performance can be so very different. I would say try the KTM (or wait from my review - I am in love with this bike and amazed at the performance - same wight but much more powerful). Thanks for being here and for participating in the conversation - I look forward to hearing about what you ultimately chose. Cheers - Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours I will look into this today, I’m an odd ball who actually loves researching bikes etc. I haven’t even heard of this bike maybe an outlier will upset the current choice I’m excited to see :)
I appreciate the input!
It’s a great bike for serious off road. The Tenere 700 may be a better value if you plans to spend more time on road than off. I have the v85tt for touring. Shovel head for cruising.
@@DKrappenschitzADV and dual sport is very niche. For the price of that KTM you could buy a $3.5K DRZ and a $2.5K SV650 or Suzuki Bandit and still spend less than that KTM. Dual Sports are a blast but it's nice to also have a dedicated street bike for riding with other people with street bikes.. If you go out with a group of guys on cruisers or any street only bikes over 500cc you will struggle to keep up without straining the bike and dual sports are fatiguing after an hour or so upright in the wind at 70mph. If all you can afford is one bike and you really want it to be dirt capable it's hard to beat the value of the DRZ, if you want a great street bike that can do mile trail and fire roads look into a used 650 Vstrom.
Outstanding review! I own a 2021 DRZ and I love it. Do I consider it a great Adventure Touring bike. Probably not. Do I consider it a great Dual-sport or Enduro Bike. Heck Yes! The drz is a tractor. If you are short legged less than 34” beware of seat height. You will need a new seat 345.00. Pannier mounts and bags 500 and up. Change the rear tire to a 50/50 or more aggressive. Radiator guards 150.00. The down side is Touring the bike struggles above 65. Fuel range is around 110 miles before reserve. My other bike is a V85TT. Oh and sand loves speed deep sand loves more speed.
Excellent commentary on all accounts - thanks for these valuable points - I love hearing form owners. I am very happy you found the review valuable. Stick around for a similarly weighed but more powerful and capable KTM SXC635 review coming in the near future. Thanks for being here! Nik
I have a 2006 and I love this bike . I also taught my son on this bike last year he is now 17 I’m going to buy him a 2023
Congrats. He'll love it. I made two other videos related to the drz, how to install a larger tank and how to clean the carb. Cheers. Nik
I learned alot about my new/used DRZ 400SM. I was already happy with it but now I'm lovin it.. thanks!
Thanks for watching. Now go check out my drz carb cleaning tutorial cause you'll be doing that often. Cheers. Nik
Great review! The most honest I’ve seen for this bike! You’re the first person I’ve heard that hasn’t whined about the wait. Last bike I had was a 750 pound cruiser, Yamaha V*1100. I live in the Northeast, specifically Vermont and my choice has been between the DR 650 and a DRZ 400. I’ve made my choice and it’s going to be the DRZ 400. I currently own a Honda XR 400 but the wheelbase is a little shorter so it’s a little Squirrley on the pavement and it would cost me about $2000 to put an electric start on it. Thanks again, I have subbed Looking forward to more reviews! Cheers from Vermont!
Greetings and thanks for being here - glad the review was helpful. You won't go wrong with the DRZ, especially if you are coming from a similar bike already. The other bike that I've recently been riding is a KTM 625 SXC - and it too is in the 300lb range, but has a kick start as well as electric, and is just incredibly torquey. If you see one, check it out before making a purchase, but keep in mind parts and maintenance is more diffiicult. Good luck to you.
Great video. I own a klx250s and my brother owns a drz400s. We have done thousands of miles at 70 mph with stock gearing and also 14-44 gearing. It has been a great bike. My 250 is a little underpowered on tarmac above 60 mph; the drz always has enough power even at 10,000+ feet above sea level. I am thinking of getting a drz because it is the smallest cc and lightest bike that does eveything I want to do.
Thanks for being here - be sure too also look into the competition. For example I picked up both my KTM 625 and BMW Xchallenge for less $$$ than the DRZ, and they are both simply better bikes in all respects, the beemer being most advanced, the ktm being most beastly. Good luck and do tell me what you end up with! Cheers - Nik
The title is perfect. This is the most complete review. Especially the asides to competitors and extras ,things you dont like , things you;ve modified. Thank you greatly for your time in making this. Very useful.
Glad you found the video useful and glad to have you here. Thanks for participating in the conversation and for the complement. I made two how to videos about the drz, carb cleaning and desert tank instal, so check them out if you have one. I also have reviewe nearly ever ADV 650 thumper on the used market in this similar fashion. Cheers. Nik
Great review...super thorough, thanks! Wow, 37inches is high - I'm 5-8 as well with 30in inseam sounds like that would be a stretch for me...I rode the DRZ SM and that was ok but it sits lower on the smaller wheel size but also has stiffer suspension. My Triumph is 32in and perfect, hard to imagine an extra 5in in seat height...
Hi there. Thanks for being here, and glad you found it valuable. Yes, the bike is tall, but the suspension is soft and sags as soon as you weigh it. So don't let this intimidate you - I too am 5.8 and 32 inseam.I made a tutorial of how to clean the carb and also instal an aftermarket desert tank for the DRZ. I have reviewed most of the 650 ADV thumpers on this channel, so please take a look through my videos - I find the BMW XChallenge to be a very worth competitor to the DRZ. I also still have in my garage waiting to get reviewed the Honda XR650L and KTM SXC 625. Also, some great news, Kawasaki invited me to their press release and extended review of the new KLR being release later this year so stick around for that and please consider subscribing to be informed when these come out. In the meantime, thanks again for being here! Cheers - Nik
This has to be one of the best DRZ400 reviews I've seen and thanks for taking us along for the ride ! 👍
Have a 2004 Suzuki RM250 for dirt action and love it but looking something to " Enduro" / road ride and the DRZ400 sounds like the bike .
Thank you for watching and for taking the time to participate in the conversation. I haven't owned anything under 400 CC's and not sure if I would be Keen enough to keep something smaller than that. The DRZ was a pleasant surprise. Right now I'm riding the KTM 690sxc which is only about 35 lb heavier but similar off-road performance pushing another 50 plus horsepower.
One rule that no one ever discusses is that any dirt bike with conventional forks and boots NEVER have fork seal issues. A real problem when on a trip
Is that so? Why do you think? Ant bejist gravity - eother system is under tremendous hydraulic pressure. I've not heard of that, than you for sharring?
Are you being serious?
This is one of THE best videos explaining the Suzuki DRZ400. 👍
Glad you found my review accurate. Thank you for watching and for the support.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours absolutely, thanks again for the video!
I agree with you, I have owned one for the last five years. I like it as a duel sport but I would have to find a better seat before I would want to use it as an adventure bike. The blanket idea you use may be a good option.
Thanks for watching. It's actually not a blanket but a seat cushion made out of wool which the Aussies are famous for. It's not motorcycle specific but they make plenty that are. Other option is the airhawk style but all these raise you higher.
Coming from a normal 2 stroke dirbike background, it doesn't feel light but it is light enough to pick up, light enough to do almost everything, a slightly slower pace, and light compared to most street legal bikes.
For me this has been the lightest motorcycle I've owned, and until my recent purchase of the Honda CRF 250 Rally, also the one with the smallest displacement. So it's all about perspective. Of you watch my review of the Yamaha super Tenere, it helps to tour on a big heavy bike because you'll see that 600 pound plis machine get thrown around by the wind in Eastern Sierras. Thanks for watching and please tune on this Friday as I announce a private tour of that amazing area. Cheers
Nik
I like how you make your videos in a no-nonsense no-bs way. They are informative and feel sincere. I also like that you have the common sense to use a tripod and a proper microphone :) That being said, I wish Suzuki made a more touring and less dirt orientated version of DRZ400. Like put on a comfortable seat, a larger tank with some wind protection for the legs, maybe shorter suspension travel (lower seat), and some luggage hauling ability. Essentially more like the 650 but in 400. All the 650 thumpers become way too heavy if you drop them or if you come across a bit of the road that's technically challenging. I have travelled to the Sahara on a Yam XT600E and while it was perfect on the dirt roads, sometimes I would come across a really difficult spot and then it was an anvil. OK I admit I'm not a greatly skilled rider either, that's why I stick to the roads lol, but dirt roads in Africa can and do have difficult spots. Cheers!
Greetings and thanks for watching and talking the time to comment. I appreciate your support. I agree that most modern adv bikes are way too heavy. I personally rode a KTM sxc625 (review will be up this weekend), and a bmw g650xchallenge, both under 350 lb but with plenty of power. Hondas XR650L is also about there. That's another review in the making so please stay tuned. I'm going to review every 650 thumper adv in the used market. Cheers. Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours Nikola, pogledaj ovaj video, mislim da će ti se svidjeti: th-cam.com/video/aKDJBw33T0k/w-d-xo.html
Pozdrav ;)
Hvala - pogledacu.
Excellent review, bought my DRZ400 a couple years ago-love it, setting it up for BDR, now. It’s been a great trainer, I have moved up to a t7 but the DRZ is best for the type of riding you showed in the video! Cheers
Thanks for watching. Glad to hear you enjoyed the review and the bike. This weekend please tune in for what I think is my best review yet, of my Yamaha super tenere. It addresses the exact opposite question of this one, if it's too BIG for serious ADV touring. I hope to see you there. Cheers. Nik
I agree that the DRZ makes a great adventure bike. I have a DRZ and a GS 650. While the latter is a great road bike, it's just way too heavy for dirt riding for me. The DRZ is light enough to be nimble on the road and on the dirt, and has the power to take on highways for moderate stints when needed, a true dual sport!
A true duel sport indeed. Thanks for watching and sharing. Check out the BMW g650xchallenge. 350 lb, a foot of travel.
Great review. Your reviews are some of the best ones. Looking forward for one for bmw g650x.
Thanks for taking the time. Much appreciated.
I have a DRZ 400 S, and I love it! Also it's a very tuning-friendly bike, since it shares the engine internals with the E -model🙂..
Thanks so much for watching. I appreciate it. Yes, the DRZ is one heck of a machine. PS - please consider subscribing cause the review of the Royal Enfield Himalayan will be released this weekend - supposedly a direct competitor in this class.
When you are huffing and puffing about picking up the bike.... I HAVE BEEN THERE MY DOOD!!!!!
Ride safe brotha!
Thanks for the message and for watching. Yeah no doubt its a light bike but on a steep hill with all the gear and the heat, it will take the breath out of the best of us. Safe travels and please stay tuned and consider subscribing to get notified when the new reviews drop, three more in the light adv thumper class including the KTM SXC625 which is similar in weight but more powerful and capable to the drz. Also, I made tutorials on how to clean the carb and instal desert tank on the DRZ. Cheers. Nik
The best suggestion I’ve heard for bad stock tires, is to swap them out before the first ride and save them to put on the bike if you sell it someday.
Tires are only good for 5-7 years so they would always act as nothing more but placeholders. But yes, I'd avoid putting any miles on these tires. Thanks for watching.
Excellent review. I love mine too. From the tough Aussie bush . Bulletproof !
Thanks for watching and I am happy to hear you thing my review is accurate. I appreciate hearing from viewers from so far away. PS - I recently released a review of another 411CC "ADV" bike, the Himalayan, and will be releasing a review of the KTM SXC625 which is a direct competitor to this bike so I hope you tune in for those. Safe travels - Nik
the e model is road legal in australia and new zealand it comes with blinkers,speedo full rear subframe it's lighter and significantly more powerful than the s model. e model was discontinued in usa in 07 but its never been out of production it's still currently sold in aus/nz and typically comes with an enduro kit, barkbusters,radiator guards, bashplate and exhaust tip. 20-21 e models came with a cape york edition which added pro taper bars, grips and pirelli scorpion knobbies.
i've had two e models an 03 and a 20 cape york edition. i did a 7000km trip in outback australia through 4 states and crossed the simpson dessert solo unsupported.
there isn't really anything like the drz400 in aus it's won desert races, national motocross and enduro titles, even supercross round wins. but the best thing about it is it fits ina broad category of usefulness from just short of pro level enduro to commuting to work or across continents.
Wow- thanks so much for that valuable info - I have quite a few form the audience form your neck of the woods asking about this bike, so I am glad to be able to point them to this comment. It really is an amazing motorcycle. I have experienced the KTM SXC635 after it and it blew me away as well - there is definitely a stronger appeal to lighter more dirt capable ADV bikes. I invite you to un through the motorcycle review playlist on this channel to get inspired about other options available in the 650 ADV category. I have reviewed/or am editing reviews of nearly every 650 ADV touring motorcycle in the used market. If you enjoyed this I invite you to definitely take a look at the most watched video on my channel, and that is a review of the DR650 vs KLR650 th-cam.com/video/xiHzulc5r7s/w-d-xo.html
Kawasaki liked it so much they invited me to the press release of the new KLR later in the year so please consider subscribing to get notified when that comes out. Also, this Saturday at noon I will premier a new review of the Honda NC700X - another great bike for the ADV community, and at the end I show which other 650 Thumper reviews are upcoming. Be well in the meantime and I hope to hear form you in the future. Cheers, Nik
I absolutely love my DRZ. The ultimate bush pig
Well put although in my book sub 300 pound machines are hardly pigs. It's all what one is used to - for me this has been the lightest bike I have owned but I have since picked up a KTM SXC625 - same in weight but loads more power - pretty much in love with this bike. Thanks for participating in the conversation.
Sound review. You referenced a few pros of which I was unaware, somewhat changing my opinion on the bike.
Thanks again for the videos and stay safe.
Thanks for being here - glad you found it useful and informative. Please stay tuned for other reviews in the thumper class - in the meantime, stay safe and thanks for participating in the conversation.
Great review....It is the middle ground between KLR heafy cockroach and CRF450 Death machine. I will probably buy one for my step son to learn to ride on....I'm a KLR hardcore. He wants the CRF450 but dumping a teenager loose on a 50 horsepower 275 lbs bike... seems a bit irresponsible. 40 hp, easier to maintain thumper seems more the way to go.
I think your logic there is very sound - Learning to control and respect a bigger, less capable bike will give him more of the teenage male would likely benefit from early in his riding career. I did quite a few reviews of 650 thumper ADV bikes on this channel and three more are upcoming. This Saturday at noon I am premiering the review of my Honda NC700X - an awesome bike and an exciting platform for ADV touring so I hope you consider subscribing and running in - this might be a good bike for him to get learned on - it's very tame. At the end I show what three bikes reviews are in the making - all direct competitors to the KLR. Be well I the meantime and thanks for being part of this channel community. Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours Subscribed I shall, but you are going to have to cover another potential purchase. The mighty Tenere 700 is really burning a hole in my pocket after FortNine's review. Anyway, digging the channel. It has that Alex Chacon feel which is nice since he originally got me into adventure riding.
Great vid. One note about those bike trays. Most small vehicles won’t have the vehicle tongue weight rating to sufficiently haul a Drz. That’s something you don’t wanna guess on. Overweighted trailer tongues can mess up a car frame :)
Great point - not all small vehicles can or should tow. But the great thing about these bikes is that so many bike racks have a weight limit of 400lb permitting the carrying of this bike. That was actually a big reason for me getting a lighter bike - I can carry it anywhere we go as a family. Thanks for this tip, and thanks for being here and for participating in the conversation. I released a video in the first week of January listing all of what is to come this year so please take a look, and in the meantime thank you for being here and I look forward to hearing from you in the future. Best. Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours I actually got a tow hitch installed on my 2018 Subaru Outback with the intention of adding a motorcycle tray / attachment to it (cuz i REALLY didnt want to pull a trailer, and most importantly, STORE a trailer ) only to learn later that the 'toungue-weight 'rating for my vehicle, is maximum of 200 lbs.. (tongue weight being the MAXiMUM weight / downward force that my specific vehicle's back end is rated for, meaning, an attachment that does NOT have wheels (like a trailer) and ONLY relies on the car's hitch to 'hold up' a load (nothing touches the ground other than your standard 4 car tires) . Mind you, the actual capacity of both the installed hitch, and envisioned bike tray was WELL above that .. 500/700+ lbs if i remember.. so forgive me if this is old news to you, you do have to go by your vehicles 'toungue weight capacity' .. its the weakest link in the setup.. Its pointless to put a hitch / tray rated to 1000lbs, or whatever, if the tongue weight capacity for that vehicle is only 200 lbs. .ive heard bad stories about bent frames, and scrwed up body panels from folx trying to overload their car.. again, if this is already known, disregard ;)
Great video, man. I really enjoyed it.
I appreciate you taking the time. Cheers. Nik
Great information. I really can't decide between the DR650 and DRZ400 for long tours. Wouldn't it make more sense to get the 650 for highway use?
Yes , it would make more sense to get the bigger bike if you intend on riding the highway often. The DRZ would strain for long periods above 60mph, with gear, etc. Thanks for your question - I am releasing three more 650 reviews (Honda XR650L, KTM625 SXC, and BMW XChallenge) So please consider subscribing to get notified when those go out, after which this channel will have reviewed every relevant 650 ADV bike on the market. Good luck searching.
The decision between a DR-Z and a DR has gotten more interesting over the years. Procycle has shaved a custom-suspended, big-bored/cammed DR down to 320lb curb, and also offers wider-ratio tranny gearsets for both big Suzuki dualsports. DR-Z500Ss can put out over 60WHP these days too.
Do you want an aluminum or steel subframe? High or low seat? Fat or skinny dualsport? To carry a passenger?
The DR-Z has better clearance. It can be shaved below 300lb curb. A kicker kit might still be available for it.
A DR tends to feel more planted on windblown slab. It has a little more space for a passenger.
Either moto can be customized quite a bit now.
love the blue color def wanna get this for my first bike sense i'm new to motorcycles and i love bikes and i never ridden one before so this color and this bike is what i'm looking for for my first bike and never learned how to know/used clutch before sense this is my first time
It's a great first bike. Very light and easy to learn on. Good luck.
Really thorough review, much appreciated!
I'm glad you found it valuable. I also do a video on how to clean the carb on this motorcycle, as well as how to install an aftermarket desert tank in case you are interested. Happy holidays
It DOES take a long time to learn about this bike. I changed bars to pro-taper and filled them with silicone to dampen hand vibration. Works ok.
Great tip - much appreciated. Those who come to this video to learn will appreciate the tip. Glad to have you here - cheers - Nik
Silicone? Sounds heavy though.
Very humble thus useful review. No showing off. Deliciously oldfashioned tothepoint. Subscribed already
Thank you tha k you, glad to have you on board. I beleive by next week I will own a brand new Himalayan 400 so please stay tuned for more. If the 650s are of interest to you, this channel has reciewed most of them on the used market. Also I habe added to videos re: instaling the desert tank, and cleaning the carb on the DRZ
Cheers. Nik
Nice review cobber, I love how you see the robust nature of such bikes. Yeah sure there are sacrifices but not everywhere is as populated as the United states. Sometimes you need to hammer and Gaffa tape, the drz is an awesome machine!
Well said - got to appreciate the utilitarian and proletarian nature of fun bikes that are easy to own and last. I do have to say though that my KTM SXC 635 is putting all these to shame, but the DRZ has been fun to own. Thanks for being here! Nik
great video, looking forward those exercise videos. I am sometimes having issues with my back. keep the videos rolling.
Thank you thank you - Yeah, I've collected every sort of back contraption one could imagine, but nothing replaces old fashioned exercise. Stay tuned for that and thanks for tuning in - cheers - Nik
Great video, I love this kind of review. I loved the klr vs f650gs. Keep it coming 💪
Thanks so much for being here and for the support. I posted a video early this year about all the reviews that are in the making so it will be an exciting year ahead. Thanks for being a part of it - Cheers - Nik
Good video pegasus!!. I actually got a drz400e with supermoto wheels a few weeks ago (still have my KLR). It is so much fun, poping wheelies everywhere haha, but honestly for trips or more than a few kilometers on highway I still prefer the KLR, I feel so unprotected on the DRZ, no fairing, windscreen etc. DRZ is fine for messing around or short trips but no way to do a trip two up for 15k kms like a did on the KLR
Thanks - the 400E is actually a dirt version, not street legal here, so definitely not meant for the highway. I had the S version which is the street version. Does you bike have blinkers? IF it's the dirt version of the 400, then the gearing is definitely prejudiced toward low speed torque - hence the wheelies.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours it is the E version (2007 year) for sure, but with sumo tires. No blinkers nor speedo, no kickstart, conventional forks. Fun bike though!
Same with me, klr650 for long trips, drz400e for the rough stuff. Neither has cost me anywhere near the cost of replacing parts on my BMW GS1200, plus no recalls ha
@@Geetarhed for the cost of a GS, I got a KLR, DRZ and Vstrom 1000. Couldn't be happier, although I am not allowed at starbucks haha. Drive shaft may be nice tough
@@Geetarhed for the cost of a GS, I got a KLR, DRZ and Vstrom 1000. Couldn't be happier, although I am not allowed at starbucks haha. Drive shaft may be nice tough
Nothing like a cultic bike w/ lots of followers & an abundance of parts.... speaking of which ; I see you w/ the S model but wouldn't
you want the suspension from the SM model? At least the front forks which are an inverted set? I was thinking about all those
bikes laying around & perhaps you can tell me if the SM model inverted forks a direct swap-out with the S model? I might not
have the extra $1000 to buy the SM version but I think there will be some excess bikes out there & I'd like the added control you
might get from those front-forks? What say you, Mr. Pegasus ? I like this bike & I'm getting closer but trying to find out those
last little ideas so I'll have direction? Nahh, who needs direction >> > just aim -n- go Go GO ~ it's that easy. peace
Apparently the E model which is dirt only has slightly different suspension and carb as well. I can't say for certain, but I think it should be a simple swap between all 3 models. I can't imagine Suzuki would design three sets of triple trees or mounting points to be different.
Great review ... tks
Adventure by yourself: Efi and air shock!!! good luck.... I hear a fuel pump goes out and you have trouble. And the efi throttle just is not the same... everyone likes something different though!!!
I would never have an air shock or fork... tough enough on them on a mtb bike and that weighs 25 lbs... lol...
All great and valid points - ADV bikes ought to be simple, reliable, and easy to keep on the road. I too get pulled one way or another with each ADV bike I own - my current Challenge has air suspension in the rear, the Honda XR650L I am reviewing net has it I the front, the KTM SXC625 also parked I the garage is awesome but a challenge to find parts for. I don't mind EFI per se, it's been in the market for over 100 years actually, first used I airplanes at the turn of the century, but you are right about the fuel pump. I appreciate your comment and you being an active member of this channel's community - please consider subscribing to be informed when the following reviews of three more ADV bikes in the 650 category come out throughout the following months (Honda XR650L, KTM SXC625, and BMW Xchallenge). Cheers - Nik
i just picked up a 2000 drz400e which is same bike afaik without street legal capabilities. was a steal and is a good bike! for $875 i couldnt turn it down lol
im in california anyone got tips for street legaling it
That is a steal. Good on you. Excellent question. I know it will require an emissions canister and blinkers. A trip or a few to the DMV to get looked over. I've never done it myself so can't say for sure in detail.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours Ah man i just did a search basically saying because its a drz400E no way i can get a title in california at all for it to be street legal only offroad. unless i title in another state but idk how i can do that
Great video! Very clear and informative.... what area is that you were riding in at 9:10?
Thanks for being here. I made two more instructional videos for the drz, how to clean the carb and how to instal the desert tank. The are is Wildomar OHV. Ps, I just picked up a brand new Royal Enfield Himalayan (doesnt compare to the drz other than a 411cc engine) and a few more thumper adv reviews are coming up ao please conaider subacribing. One in particular might interest you and that is the KTM 625 sxc. Thanks for the spport. Cheers. Nik
I had a drz400e for a moment last year and didn't keep it because of the cons when using on road and I felt that it was never pleasant on and off road. Off road it is too heavy, on road it was terrible(seat, behaviour, noise, high rpm,...). I believe the main reason people consider it is the price when buying one. I sold it and bought a xt660r which is much better on road, but worse off road and this fits for me because I need to ride for a long time on road to reach anything off road where I live.
Yeah, the highway capability is definitely lacking for the DRZ, but I never actually found it terrible, as I expected to. In it's stock form with stock tires it was quite alright - surprisingly so. I think tires have a lot to do with it, and the stock Bridgestones are very much street oriented. In the end there are comparable/better bikes to be had for the same price roughly, so I moved on from the DRZ, but I hope the review helps people inform their decision. Your comment will help someone for sure, so thank you for participating in the conversation. Stay safe - Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours Usually people by the drz to get from home to the trail with no law issues. Most of those bikes where I live are plated and with dirt bike tires and upgrades, people are using them to get to the trails without the annoying truck load offload part. They are terrible for street riding in that shape. But you can also put different gearing and street tires and have it highway comfortable. After all there is no perfect ground for street and off road combo. I personally have drz plated with dirt tires and use it to get to the trail which is actually 40-50% of my riding, other 50% is hard trails.
Get rid of the trail wing tires and get some D606 or Kenda K270. The TWs are death in the dirt.
No doubt, they never should have left the dealership.
I've got the "E" version in Australia.....pumper carb, stage 2 cams, few other factory differences to the S model, we also get that here. Love my little yellow Pig.....tough as old boots, great value, easy to own.
I've heard through other comentarios that for you down under the E is street legal. I've no experience with it but would be curious considering the better performance. Right now my ktm sxc625 is keeping me busy and smiling. Thanks for participating in the conversation. Cheers.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours I've owned that also, very similar, the Dizzer feels like a smaller, less refined version. I still miss the LC4 but I rode the thing into the ground, selling being my most cost effective option in the end.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours Yes it is fully road legal in all states, most common dual sport sold in Aus for 20 years....literally everywhere. I owned the KTM LC4 before the Dizzer, it reminds me of it, just a smaller, less refined version, without that mountainous torque but enough for me now as I'm getting well into middle age.
@@bmccameron7642 Good to know. Thanks for that info - and the DR650? Just as common?
@@pegasusmotorcycletours The DR650 is ubiquitous here also. Same value, same reliability, same popularity for all the same reasons.
Great video, well done!
Thank you very much. I have a video on how to clean the carb in this bike and how to install this oversozed gas tank if interested. Cheers. Nik
I had a DRZ 400S years ago and liked it for off road because I'm on the smaller size. The only issue that bothered me was the buffeting on the road due to its light weight.
Yeah, that is always going to be a trade off with lighter bikes but I got to say I was pleasantly surprised with how it performed on the road.
Did you leave the hearing stock or change one of the sprockets?
@@shea2750 Yup - completely stock save for skid plate, desert tank and rental bar. It also has a lot to do with the tires and the stock tires are road oriented.
I used to have DRZ400S, bought a more trail oriented bike, and I’m in the market for an SM now. Watching this video and you mention your problem with carpal tunnel. I have (had) the same problem on my S. I installed FasstCo Flex Bars and the problem is no longer an issue for me. Like you, I had gotten to the point of wearing braces at night, etc. The flex bars, now on my CRF, were the solution.
Thanks so much for taking the time to watch the review and participate in the conversation. I particularly am grateful for your tip since my carpal tunnel syndrome is getting pretty serious although the braces do help. I might do a video on that since I assume it's a fairly common problem with riders. I'll look into your recommendation as well. If you enjoyed this review, I have reviewed nearly every adventure touring dumper on the used market in case you are comparing. The next review releasing will be off my BMW 650 x challenge which weighs about the same as the DRZ I'll be at is much more capable in every respect. Be well and I hope to hear from you in future reviews.
That was a wonderful video. Thank you for making it. I'm really torn between the 400 and the dr650. I just don't know what I'm going to enjoy more. Get on those trails in the forest (long distance high speed ride to get there) or single track in the desert right outside my house. Idk yet. Your right about the resell value though. If its not for me ill just sell it.
Either way I really appreciate the video!
Glad you found them useful - please be sure to check out my DR650 review - I compare it to the KLR - definitely an amazing bike - was going to check one out today with 10k miles for $2.5 - that is the beauty - easy and cheap to own, and resell. If you plan on doing long stretches of 60mph plus, with a lot of luggage, the 650 is a better bet. If you need an all around bike that will mostly be seeing difficult dirt - 400 is the answer. Good luck and thanks for being here!
Depending what experience you have, if you don't have much experience get drz400 for learning, few years later you can go bigger after you learn how to handle trails good. That 650 is hard to pick up but fun if you know what you doing.
I couldn’t decide between the DRZ-400S and the KLR-650, so I bought the DRZ first, rode it 8000 miles, then bought a KLR 650 because I went riding with a buddy that had a KLR 650 and couldn’t keep up with him on the freeway or off road?? I was shocked, so, this the conclusion I came to. I’m going to keep both (which was never the plan) I was going to sell one of them to replace the other bike. But they have their pros and cons and you kinda need both bikes depending on what kind of riding your going to do. If I had to choose one…it would be the KLR 650, only because the seat is so comfortable, it has a 6 gallon tank and can go 300 miles. But I love my DRZ, its so much lighter and so much fun to take off road. If you can, buy both. Your DR650 and the DRZ. If you had to choose which one first. Ask yourself what are you going to do more? If your on Dirt more, buy the DRZ, if your on the road more get the DR650. Both are awesome bikes…
@@BoyFindsTako thanks! I actually ended up trading my suzuki intruder 1500 for a 86 klr650. Been riding around the desert getting ues to the dirt and having fun. Im now looking to get a klx 300 next year. My klr does not perform well enough on the highway to warrant how heavy it is (in my opinion).
P.S. in the back of my mind i do wonder what it would be like to hop on a drz and fly up everything but im getting to the point where i want to try fuel injection. Im hoping it will make things simpler and more reliable.
Thanks for posting this review.
Thank you for watching. I've reviewed nearly everyone of its competitors so please run through my playlist to find them. Ive also made a tutorial on how.to remove and clean the drz carb and install the larger desert tank. Cheers. Nik
Try seat concepts xl or commuter seat
Thank you for the suggestion - riders who come to this video to learn and make a decision will surely appreciate the advice - as do I. Thanks much and safe travels. Greetings from San Diego.
damn straight lol life changr
That bike is “small” but will run no matter how much you abuse it. The Tacoma of motorcycles
Very true. Hence the wild following. Cheers. Nik
Ironic you mention the WR250r as it's main competition (Not the 300 crf or klx) ;)
The WRr is a great bike and if Suzuki would update this bike to what the WRr has with a 6 speed gearbox and fuel injection, they would have a killer bike
Sadly Yamaha never made a WR 400r and Suzuki just sits on its butt, if either builds that bike, it will create a new buzz like ADV bikes a few years ago (as long as riding areas don't get restricted)
I've had the crf250 rally and was utterl unimpressed especially by the suspension on stock form. I did experience and upgraded 300L and that was a pleasant surprise but money was thrown into it. Thanks for watching.
I just rode in the dirt for the first time the other day, but I fell on a turn and broke a rib! 😔 I figure my tires may not have been suited for the soft sand I hit, but I'm sure it's because I'm a newer rider too. Any advice?
Dang friend, sorry to hear that - I've been there - rib injuries take a long time to heal but you'll be back at it soon enough. Take the time to learn as much about dirt and ADV riding as you can (
keeping in mind theory will only take one so far). Were you riding these OEM tires? In any case, always be sure to air down your tires when you hit dirt - 15/18 front and rear is a good heuristic but it all depends on how nasty the dirt is - if there are sharp rocks that can give you pinch flats or not - air down a little at a time and see where the bike feels the most positive. (for this reason you need to carry a pump of some sort - electric is fastest if your bike has an outlet). First step of course is to consider better tires - there are so Many out there to choose from but if you want a top of the line dirt capable tire that is long lasting and great ton pavement, The Heidenaus K60s are the gold standard. If money is a factor, Shinko makes the 704 or the more dirt oriented 804/805 option. Metzeler is another German product that is great, and the Continental TKC80 is the sexiest of the bunch. I touch on all these throughout all of my motorcycle reviews since this Chanel focuses on the ADV lifestyle. So perhaps take sometime while you are healing to go through some of these videos of mine - I think you will learn a lot in the process. How you load the bike, and even how you ditch a falling bike is all something that is learned over time, and so I hope you didn't loose fate in the ADV riding game because it's the most satisfying type of riding one can do on a bike. You'll heal and you'll become a better rider I due time, and the DRZ is a great bike to learn on. The next review is about the carb cleaning process of the DRZ (I hope you have seen the desert tank tutorial release last month) so get to know this bike in your time off the saddle so that you are more confident with it when you are alone in the dirt. The next videos planned for this year, aside from more ADV touring bike review deal with other maintenance that tis fairly basic but vital for any ADV rider, tire care/file repair, tire choices, geared packing advice, tents and sleeping options, etc etc etc. Please consider subscribing so that you can be informed when these come out - there Russo much advice ahead and I wish you a fast healing in the meantime. Glad to have you here. Cheers -Nik
Thanks for the thoughtful and in-depth reply! I appreciate the advice. I was likely being a little irresponsible and impatient trying it out on 80 street/20 dirt tires (not even sure of the PSI), but I definitely want to do it right next time. I'm subscribed now, and I'm looking forward to checking out more of your stuff. Thanks for the motivation! If you ever find yourself in Eastern Oregon, let me know!
@@googles333 I'm a beginner as well. That must have been painful, sorry to hear. Thanks for asking the question because I also read the in depth answer as I have also hit some loose dirt/sand and went down! It happened very easily, but I'm gonna take my time and learn a little at a time. I hope you feel better soon and become confident and awesome at riding in the dirt!
I'm still on the fence between the DRZ400 and DR650 for my daily commuter and first ever offroad-capable bike.
I don't really do adventure touring, this would be my daily commuter bike doing up to 90km/h (55mph) every day, and weekend light dirt. The poblem is, I do highways, ideally 120-130km/h (75-80mph) for two or three hours every month or two. With the DRZ I'd have to hold it at an uncomfortable RPM, or just leave an hour early and go 90(55). I sometimes do group rides, so I'd either slow everyone down or just go alone earlier.
I want a dual sport because I moved to a forest some time ago, and I have a shitton of dirt roads all around me. I've never done any off-road on a bike, apart from the time I dropped my 650lbs tourer on a patch of sand. Also the lightest bike I've ever owned in my life was 210kg, aka 460lbs, so either the DR or the DRZ will be feathers for me.
I really want to want the DRZ, but I'm wondering if the highway riding / reasonable RPM speed limit is a dealbreaker or not. Also as I've never done offroad, I don't know if I'll like, not like, or love it. I also don't know how tough of terrain and dirt riding I'll do, my current plan is to start basically on dirt or fire roads and go from there.
Hi there. If this is your very first off road bike, and most of your needs are for higher speed commuting, I would definitely recommend the 650. The DRZ is for more serious ADV touring enthusiasts who need a lighter bike for really difficult terrain. The highways speeds are also more taxing on the rider and bike on the DRZ. I hope this helps push you in the right direction. In any case, ride both before buying so you know what fits your needs. I am very glad you find the information valuable - thanks for being here and for participating in the conversation. I released a video in the first week of January listing all of what is to come this year so please take a look, and in the meantime thank you for being here and I look forward to hearing from you in the future. Best. Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours Thanks! The DR650 is cheaper than a DRZ where I live, so I guess I'll just buy the DR. As I said, this will be the lightest bike I will have ever owned, so it'll be great regardless :D
@@stefanmajonez6571 update?
@@Itsjake908 Honda Transalp :D
I thought about it some more, neede time to get the money together, and decided that I don't need a single cylinder bike. 90% of my off-roading is dirt forest roads that cars drive, so it's good enough for me.
@@stefanmajonez6571 good luck
I would say that it's not just the injection itself. You need a fuel pump also.. Too much electronics. I am one of these people that are full retro on motorcycle fuel systems.
I had to make repairs on my brother's bmw 1200 fuel pump several times.. My Transalp even don't have one.. So it's a + or me. The injection works perfectly until it's not
Oh the transalp - super difficult and rare to find here Stateside - I would love to own one. Next time I am in your neck of the woods I might just look you up for a ride - cheers - Nikola
jetting the drz or any other performance mod is moot for 99% of the riders CANNOT push the bike to its limits the way it is... its perfection stock
You believe the bike to be perfect in stock form? You wouldn't change anything. I'm definitely in the 99 percent group. I do slow paced adv touring.
Hi, Can you put a link to the replacement tank install, please, I can't find it among your video list. I still have the metal tank which is heavy for its size and prone to dents and scrapes. I have increased the range and cruising speed with a 39 rear sprocket ( (110 asphalt miles?tankful at around 70mph, at the expense of off road capability) but a bigger tank would make all the difference. Cheers
Hi there and thanks for being here. Yes the bigger tank makes all the difference and is a must for any ADV trips. That video is presently being edited and should be up early next week. It will be the next review to go live so please consider subscribing to get notified when it does. Its not a too difficult job, but it does have a few tricky steps so a video guide will be helpful, I hope. Be well in the meantime and thanks for being here. (PS, I am also releasing a carb cleaning tutorial for the DRZ). Cheers - Nik
@@pegasusmotorcycletours Thanks for responding. Will await with interest. Sources for this brand or any other DRZ400S compatible tank seem very limited here in UK but still worth exploring I think
Hi there. Video is rendering and will be uploaded tomorrow. Thabks for your patience. As for brands that make these desert tanks - IMS and Acerbis are the more common in this side of the pond.
I like your video, but is there some reason why you are falling over in every riding shot? Either you spend a lot of time picking up your bike, or you are trying to make a point about the DRZ400S? Seems like you are passionate about the DRZ400S - me too. Great video 🤙
Glad you liked it. I have since switched to a KTM and find myself falling over much less. Please consider subscribing to get notified when that review of the SXC625 comes out in two weeks. It's this bikes direct competitor. I'm also releasing the review of the Himalayan but that's not a good bike. Cheers. Nik
Just now coming across this video. I think today's ADV riders have made ADV riding over complicated. This has pushed brands to push bikes to extreme limits. People will say there is no wrong answer. The answer is when diminishing returns provides no or only marginal benefits for the cost and effort.
Well put. Too complicated, too expensive, too heavy. Time to go back to the roots. Cheers.
This review was awesome man! Buying my DRZ is one of the best decisions I've ever made! I have an 02 and I ride it at least 400-500 miles every weekend around southern OR/NorCal, from the mountains to the coast! I think that alone attests to how reliable these bikes are. I rebuilt the top end last year, and from that experience I can say that finding parts for these bikes is a piece of cake! The customization options are also amazing, I actually installed a headlight for a Chevy Blazer in mine! Mosko Moto also makes a killer Rackless ADV Bag with waterproof inner bags that come in 40L and 80L sizes and include a heat guard for the muffler, definitely a worthy investment for $490.
I hope you come to Oregon and ride some day! I work here as a videographer and think we could make some kickass content together dude, keep rippin'!
Also, how is that Everest bag at 21:05 secured to the fairing?
Thanks for watching and for the support. I am glad you liked the video. 500 mikes in a weekend is impressive (especially on this seat). Thanks for the luggage recommendation. The everest bag is drilled throufh the fairing and held via zip ties. That was not my bike. I appreciate the invite, a d will keep your contact - that might actually happen in the future, I know that area has some of the best riding. Be well in the meantime and be sure to check out my other two videos on the drz. One is for carb cleaning and the other for the desert tank instal. Cheers. Nik
Fantastic Vid! Thank you
Thanks for watching. I made videos about how to clean this bikes carb, and install the desert tank as well. Safe riding
Nik
It's easier to prevent injury than to deal with the injury itself.
No doubt - small bikes like this make so much more sense for hardcore ADV touring. Thanks for participating in the conversation. A new review of the Honda NC700X goes live next Saturday so I hope you join the premier. Cheers - Nik
I would have the dealer put D606's on it pre delivery.
I think that is a solid choice and a wise request - anyone looking to buy new and reading these comments for guidance will also appreciate the tip. Thanks for participating in the conversation.
Own a drz 400e In south Africa also a drz 400sm both2005 from new ridden daily since new have never had to even tighten a spoke. Change oil and filter clean air filter and go. Also have two dl650 vstroms for trips around Africa where I live, never an issue also have one BMW gs1200 which I only took on one trip of 1200 kms and the trans failed , it ate a bearing plus the fuel pump electronic controller shut the engine off. Pure disaster. Many miles from home. Nicks on BMW bikes totally unreliable. However fun to ride, just rebuilt a real BMW a 1983 r100rs very fixable on the side of the road and still fun to ride. Bottom line, the so called modern premium high quality BMW is trash compared to to a stock suzuki thank you. Cheers from sunny south africa
I gotto say I would agree in the Japanese simplicity and reliability. Thanks for sharing.
I went from a CB500x to a DR650 and it made a world of difference... now I am wondering if I should have got a DRZ instead.... sigh
Dont stress over it. Both bikes are easy to find and buy or sell. I'd suggest you rent one and see if its for you. What tipe of touring do you intend with it? If its lots of highway or above 60mph than the big brother is a better option. This one is today crossing from Mexico into Belize-Gene finaly is on his journey. Cheers. Nik.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours Thanks
Lol I did the opposite. Funny how that works. I have a 500x with rally raid kit and it's world's better than my dr was offroad weirdly enough. Easier to pickup too. Only thing is it weighs a lot more so I have to be careful not to get her stuck in a mud hole.
Would you recommend this bike for a new rider. I have lots of experience with atv ridding and mountain biking and downhill. So I would hope those skills can translate well to a motorcycle?
Bike is awesome, but put the stock tires in garbage except if you don't ride street only.
Yes, this bike is perfect for beginner riders who are new to the ADV touring game because with all the gear it's going to feel a lot heavier than a mountain bike that you are used to (needless to say) but it will still be very forgiving and manageable. When you are ready to grow out of it, look into my other 650 ADV bike reviews. Thanks for being here and good luck with the search.
Totally True - these might be the worse tires I've had on a bike. Questionable why they would even include them since they have such a terrible reputation. Thanks for being here - 3 more 650 review are in the making, and the next video is the Carb cleaning procedure for this bike. Cheers - Nik
Now that it's 3 years later, how's the BMW been?
No complaints. I just released a review of it last month.
Awesome video!!!
Thanks so much amd glad to have you here. If you are considering one, please look at my other reviews of the 650 class for comparison. If you already have one, the last video released was about installing a large tank. The next one will be on how to remove and clean the carb on this bike. Hope to hear from you in the future. Cheers. Nik
I'm looking at a DRZ 400 supermoto right now I've had Hondas you know XR650L have had Yamaha XT650 but I've never had a 400 and it's been a few years since I've ridden so it might be a good bike to start on again. I found a 2020 with only 324 mi on it but the guy wants $7,000 so I don't know if that's a good deal or not anybody out there have any idea?
Hi. I'm releasing a review for f my xr650l where I compare it to the drz as well, bit not so much the super moto. The SM retails for about 7800 msrp, plus dealership markup, plus freight and assembly or whatever they choose to call it. Plus tax and document fees. So for a "new" bike, you will be saving at least a $1000-1500. It likely still has the warranty. Just ask that it is transferable.
Great Video, I recently got a offer for a 2002 drz400 for $1720. How´s the price?
this would be my first bike
Thanks for watching. They usually go for 4k so that price sound stoo good. How many miles? Is it the dirt E version or the s? Every market is didn't but that sounds like to good to be true so tread carefully
@@pegasusmotorcycletours I dont know how many miles, defenitly not 300 tho lol
I think you can switch that carburetor for a fuel inyection
I haven't heard of that mod - would be awesome though. I made a similar tutorial for the DRZ on how to install the desert tank and how to clean the carb. PS this Sat a new video drops introducing my current 10 motorcycles and how subscribed viewers can one them at a great price so be sure to check it out. Cheers - Nik
Great video!
Thanks for being here - glad you found it useful and informative. Please stay tuned for other reviews in the thumper class - in the meantime, stay safe and thanks for participating in the conversation.
"I'm actually out of gas right now" haha, classic
Ain't that the truth. Luckily I was at the to of the mountain, and the gas station was at the bottom. Was like nice gliding down in neutral in silence. Thanks for watching. I made a video about how to clean the carb and another on installing the desert tank. Cheers. Nik
what year model is your DRZ400? how much did you get it for?
This was a 2004 and I don't recall the purchase price but these can be had for around 4 grand.
Most durable bike in the world. Mine never skips a beat and im in the Mohave dessert
The Japonese know how to build reliable machines, to be sure. All the best in 2024.
Ever try the XR650L for ADV?
Funny you should ask. I picked one up some time ago and have been getting to know it - tomorrow is the second day of filming after having installed the Tusk luggage carriers with Moose Racing 47 liter side cases. It's Baja ready and in fact I will be taking it there to see Gene of (please watch the DR650 review) He is finally starting his adventure. I assume you have one or are curious about it? Thank you again for being here and for participating in the conversation. Three more 650 thumper reviews are in the making (Honda XR650L, KTM SXC625 and the XChallenge) so I hope you consider subscribing to be informed when they come out. The XR is next in line. I look forward to hearing from you then. Be well in the meantime - Nik
Thx Nik, yea I just hit the sub and bell. I have a new 2021 650l and did the hard (medium) Tusk bags. I have a YT channel (iffy signals) and i picked up the 650l for adventure touring around my state, we hunt for history and old home sites. Bought the tusks to carry equipment through the trails when finding old homesites. So far its been great. Ive put allot into it so far. Bags, led light, jet kit, new larger pegs, lowering link, risers. Usb ports for charging phones/cameras.. List goes on and on haha. But other than the 4.7 clark tank thats on the way its ready to roll. TC Mike
Hi Nik, are you dutch from origin?
I'm from Montenegro, former Yugoslavia. I speak German though, having lived in Munich for a year.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours aha, ok. Thx for your reaction.
Getting huge tuga vibes 🤣Nice job!
Thanks for watching. But I don't understand Tuga vibes?
Hi what bash plate do have please.
Greetings. I believe this is a ricochet off Road unit.
You must do a xr650l video
Thanks for that. I actually have a killer 2013 xr in the garage and am doing that right now. Just wanna make sure i have the chance to really know the bike first before reviewing it. So far a very possitive experience. Tha ks for being here and please consider subscribing to informed when that one comes out. Cheers
Nik
After a few trips, you redefine "what is necessary".
Absolutely. I learned I packed too much after month 2 on the road.
I’m wanting the new drz400 motor cycle shops trying to sell me a 2019 with 1700 miles Kawasaki verses 300 for 5995 my heart is the 2022 suzuki400 it has jet kit nice pipe but it’s 8199 but I’m thinking it’s worth the difference any one have any comments I’m 250 and 6 feet two looking to carry on my bus to explore where I travel
Hi there. I don't have much experience with the versus but it will be nowhere near as capable on dirt as the drz. The Suzuki is also taller. You might be more comfortable on it. You'll have to stiffen the suspension but it's also much better on the Suzuki.
what back brace is that?
This is an O-neil dirt bike brace, and for protection I use a Bilt cheap-o bakc protector.
As a DRZ owner, no is the short answer.
Impressing. What's the main shortfall?
@@pegasusmotorcycletoursMy main reasoning is that there are better bikes for the task. The DRZ is the best dualsport on the planet in my opinion, but when you talk adv, it just doesn’t have the legs or comfort for longer trips IMO. I sold my T7 to go back to a drz400 though, if that is any testament to my love for the drz haha
MAN get some good TIRES otherwise you will keep dropping that bike all the time. You need dot dunlop 606 in the back and either same dunlop dot in front or pure off road in front for best ride. The tires you have are trouble.
Absolutely true - incredible how poor these tires perform. I am amazed that Suzuki sticks with them despite their terrible infamy. It's almost negligent (considering the tires are nicknamed DeathWings) Thanks for tuning in - 3 more 650 reviews are I the making so I hope to hear from you I the future. Cheers - Nik
Stopped listening when I saw how radically overloaded your KLR was.
I carry everything I need to live off the bike, eat, sleep, fix, and recreate while staying clean, fit, and satisfied while touring in any weather. I teach riders how to pack and tour long term on adv bikes. I'm. Akong a video about that too so stay tuned before you judge prematurely.
get rid of the tires right away, if you think they are squirrely in the loose stuff wait till you hit mud, it's break your ankle, ask me how I know
Thanks for that tip. Crazy that Suzuki would sell the bike with such useless tires. Thanks for sharing. I'll be filming the reviewed of this bikes competitor in the next two weeks so please consider subscribing to get notified when they come out. Cheers. Nik
Ok😊
You damn right the DRZ is an awesome bike...I have a video on it also if you care to watch.. th-cam.com/video/Eg7KC278gS0/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the link and the support. I'm excited to watch this now. Cheers.
I think you were dropping the bike on purpose. I hope
No, never on purpose. The oem tires just suck.
3:56 lmao..thats more actin than tough actin tinactin
Can't tell if you are complementing or mocking but in any case welcome to the channel and thanks for watching. This Sat a new video drops introducing my current 10 motorcycles and how subscribed viewers can one them at a great price so be sure to check it out. Cheers - Nik
Looks like the road backside to big bear...
Very close - Eastern side of Palomar Mountain Truck Trail.
The 250 isn't made anymore.
Thanks so much for that comment, I actually just found that out a few days ago when I was looking at what's new in the Yamaha line. I was amazed by the specs when I first saw that bike, but I don't have experience with it. I wonder why they got rid of it. I would have been interested in buying one and will look for one on the used market.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours I'm thinking about the DRZ400SM. Smaller wheelbase, shorter seat height, inverted forks, nice handlebars, and only lose about an inch of ground clearance. And swap dirt tires for off road. Oh, also better brakes. They improved it a bit when they made the SM in 2005. Also different rear axle adjustment. Some surprising differences.
Honda XR 400
I have owned the crf 250Rally and with a little bit of money in the suspension, it's a fantastic bike. I don't know ow the xr400. But have owned the xr650l and it's a fantastic bike albeit too tall for.me.
Honda XR400r is its main competitor. Lighter than the DRZ400 since its aircooled. Has morr HP and torque I believe? They also made a super moto version in the form of XR400 Mugen.
I have both, problem is, they dont produce the XR400 Anymore due a higher emission standards. Parts are a nightmare to find.
BALANCE YOUR AUDIO LEVELS !
Thanks for letting me know. I haven't heard an issue with this video until now.
Thanks for letting me know. I haven't heard an issue with this video until now.
@@pegasusmotorcycletours You are welcome.
Excellent video!
Thanks for watching. I've reviewed the Himalayan as well as nearly every 650 thumper adv bike on the market. Right now I'm riding the KTM 690enduro r which has similar weight and suspension travel but loads more power.