Finally a content creator that speak the truth and not sticking their head into the butts of Massive and Ubisoft. Season 2.0 is just sucks, it`s so artificial, you don`t have shared resources, they force you to play with certain gear in LOOTER game, strips you from the story (main reason to play when you already have everything else). And give you NOTHING in return. Also, I like how they answer to question about the reason to having a main character anyway with basically NOTHING. They say so vague and worthless things just to shut us up. Basically, this FAQ is just FuсK You
They should give you a CHOICE to use a Seasonal Character and not force it on you, forcing you to sideline your main that you did grinding for hours for the make. It may be the final thing that forces me out of Div 2.
Dont forget about the lack of cosmetic content in the season pass... last season we got 2 outfits, 2 emotes and a mask. This season we get 1 outfit... thats all
I'm very much of the "fuck cosmetics" mindset. I appreciate that other people like to play barbie dress up though. You guys should be catered to as much as the rest of us.
*nods* i've never liked any of the cosmetics in this game. it makes no sense for being something of a tacticle looter shooter and they give us things that screams "hey i'm here"
Dod, you are the ONLY content creator who has actually come out and fully discussed the communities issues with this utter utter tripe. I salute you. Well done. Thank you. None of it is good. Most of our feelings reflect your own. Total dev brain fart that spattered the pan before returning a big brown wet splash back up the ballon knot.
Epic take on hot topic! Well said. True every word. This is gonna fuck shit up so much its gonna be hilarious. Ubisoft is gonna be wondering were all the old players have gone.
Thanks for the shout out mate. One minor point that I am not certain on. The presentation and FAQ were not completely clear on this, but I think that the only seasonal content that your main can do is the climax mission. One final orgasm of excitement, a chance to shoot all over Keeners or Kelso's face, at the end of the season I guess. The way I think it will work is that that weekly scouts, which lets be honest will be projects with a voice over, will be dropped one per week for the first 15 weeks for your seasonal character to complete. At the end of the season, the climax mission will be unlocked - it didn't say if you need to complete all of the previous weeks scouts for this to happen or whether it unlocks automatically though. The bit that is unsaid is whether you can complete all the weekly scouts in one go at the end of the season (with your main), or whether they are time based / locked like most of the projects are. Great video, well presented and argued points. Did not know about the incursion 802 and that is so disappointing that they have decided to dump it, presumably for seasons.
It should be optional to play the season with seasonal characters that give's you extra cosmetics and other rewards so that you don't HAVE too play it if you don't want too, but are incentivized too.
Finally your take on the situation is here. I hope its gona be wake up call for massive. Since they actually renamed "amplify damage to" on amp damage perks after your video.
The games 6 years old at this point. People have what they want, they just want to jump in and use the builds they have or tinker around with new gear for a few weeks that comes out each season. That’s how long it takes to get the new brands and named pieces with the rolls you want, 4/5 seasonal exotics are undesirable anyways. The story is null and has grasped at straws in recent seasons, so at this point new gear is the content people want.. This seems like a cheap way to release a “new game” or at least an attempt to give us the experience without developing it.
This games has shown that if devs don’t have a clear vision or understanding how to balance things it’s going to be a mess and players shouldn’t waste their time on them. The Brooklyn DLC is going to add even more issues, my reason for saying this is players will run into the stash issues cause dlc’s should introduce new weapons and gear, people are already at the cap and need space but devs said they’re not giving us anymore. since they’re introducing this new season system why would anyone want to participate in the dlc if main characters don’t mean anything but then if go back on the seasons 2.0 when the dlc comes out it just proves it was a waste of time. I personally think this seasons 2.0 is prep for for a new level cap.
The game already had you grinding. If you weren't farming control points, then you were farming countdown. You had to choose how you wanted to spend your time farming. Or you spent time making an alt character to run in NY to feed your main to up your expertise. Now they want to do seasons?, and our mains don't mean shit anymore 😂 Im pretty much done after that announcement.
15:51 Thank you, finally someone said it. I haven't touched Descent since it was released - literally nope'd out that mode when I saw my character stripped of gear and skills. Never looked back. Same why I won't play seasons and stick to my main char, unless they'll introduce gear exclusive to seasonal drops, then I just nope out completely and stop playing. Story and cosmetics I can bare being locked behind seasons, not gear tho(or maybe add it to the general loot pool after season end?).
In regards to the feedback ; I grew up with 9 sisters and they would always come to me and “ask” my opinion on what outfit to wear lol and guess what? They’d pick the opposite outfit , so this is how devs essentially work especially in Division .
Spot on, Dod. I may try playing it myself only for the heck of experiencing and see if I will like it (but I may not to be honest). Also, I hate using rifles/shotguns in this game specially how spongy NPCs are, they are as twice tiring to spamming clicks unlike ARs/LMGs. I'd rather play this game than those new games that took the dev's time and effort which should have been in the Division in the first place. Im not falling to the scheme wherein I will be sway to play a new/about to be released game because of this "Season 2.0 BS". Lastly, why would the reason a player to gain more XP if in the end it will be capped and then become (intentionally) worthless and not utilized accordingly. They pissing-off most (if not all) veterans for this scheme they're experimenting.
Seen this over and over with a hard reset of the game. You wanted to complete builds, you went to summit. You wanted to complete expertise organically, you went to countdown. You want blueprints, descent. You can’t force people down one road for an experience. it was all for nothing.
Yep. They've tried it a bit with the Dark Zone as well because the PVP is so bad in the game. You're not going to convince people to play bad mechanics or boring content by dangling gear in front of them. They'll just stop playing altogether.
@@GMartLive pvp was never even a second thought for the game. Lol I’m currently 24th in shd agents defeated. Only change they made was conflict was given all the xp and better loot. Expertise pushed everyone away which was the issue from the start. You’ll have people that grind then those who will use exploits to keep up. Then others that don’t want to do anything and for it all to be handed (which are the people the devs listen to).
Tbh they should have just scrapped this whole game when the original developers left, and saved us all a lot of stress & heartache. Because it's 💯 been nothing but a complete shit-show ever since...!!
Hi DOD, I think the seasons will ONLY be doable using the seasonal character, even in the last 2 weeks you will not be able to use the main ones to do it (except for the "climax" mission). I also think that you will be able to do the season in 1 or 2 weeks and the rest ... play your regular / main characters doing ... golden bullet an the like, outside of the season progression or play your seasonal character to upgrade and tweak your newly acquired gear and weapons.
My understanding is that your main character won't be able to do the season because it's only available during the intermission and the only thing you can do is the Climax Mission. Also, how do you get Kenner's watch if you never kill Kenner?
Real talk from real mature Division content creator. I really appreciate the insight you have about this shit show since it's reflecting exactly our fellings. The paid advertisers who are simping to Ubisoft here in TH-cam (we all know who they are) are pathetic and you are definitely not one of them.✌️
People need to move on from division 2, because maybe then that the devs will give some actual NEW content.. Not the some season garbage, no.. Actual new content.. Like c'mon, this game has been out for 5 years by now.. When is the last time they actually did put in the effort to release new stuff.. Seasons have been here for so long that i can't remember when there was actual content... The seasonpass itself has pretty much nothing to offer, the last time where i even bought one was when it had the black/red hunter outfit with the bloodied mask in it.. Meanwhile they released a bunch of fomo outfit bundles that they are now trying to sell to us again (As they reintroduced the recruiter one) just to get some pocket change here and there, these outfit bundles should've been behind ingame unlocks.. Take the recruiter one, that should've 100% been a reward for beating that final recruit mission on the highest difficulty (Aside of being able to buy the outfit bundle). Anyway, the game has been going downhill ever since and literally no amount of feedback is going to change that.. As they don't care about feedback to begin with..
the incursion was a very good way of starting to create good faith with the community again. I don't blame people for gaining some hope at that point thinking more positive things were on the horizon. But with their lack of communication and how garbage last season's story was, I lost all hope a while ago.
This i have to agree is a massive mistake literally , why dont the devs admit it and say its the end of the line , by doing this they will get the same result , just my 2 pennies worth, and i have said the stash space has been too small, how many gear sets have they added ,i am constantly just keeping my loadouts and scrapping the rest due to lack of room.
Not always agreed with you but everything in this video is spot on. I agree, IF I continue to play, it will be last 2 weeks if every season. Just sad that I won't see clan mates regularly, and we're a nice community.
Does the Q&A actually say you can go back and access ALL of the seasonal stuff in the ‘Intermission’ or just the collected gear and ‘Money Shot Mission (TM)’ on normal through to ‘Master’? Seems to me the dev team have employed a master by the surname of Bates.
Not just start again, it's starting over again every 4 months. I do not see my self running seasonal bs, only cuz of having to grind everything over and over without having a library. Know how long it will take rng to drop, the 15 weeks will go by before you even get decent roles of what you need on the gear you need. Every time i deleted a character, i would take the gear to my stash, saved so much time. I also rarely ever boosted my characters. 15 hours the fastest i ran from level 1 to 40 with watch, the next run ran about 20 hours. I farmed level 30 stuff just to get the last update, where they upped the base max level. So glad my level 30 is now level 29!
On paper your Lvl 30 stayed Lvl 30 just you're gear was downgraded to Lvl 29. Though. You are correct, as on paper our Lvl or Tier was the same, but in actuality we were taken down to 29 statistics. They just tried to sugar coat the fact by leaving score the same...thinking we wouldn't notice. Which, in fact 99% likely didn't. I did tho. Thanks for the drypop Jackasses☹️🖕
Technically your Lvl 30 stayed Lvl 30 just you're gear was downgraded to Lvl 29. Though you are correct, as on paper our Lvl or Tier was the same, but in actuality we were taken down to 29 statistics. They just tried to sugar coat the fact by leaving score the same...thinking we wouldn't notice. Which, in fact 99% likely didn't. I did tho. Thanks for the drypop Jackasses 😢
Technically our Lvl 30 stayed Lvl 30 just our gear was downgraded to Lvl 29. Though you are correct, as on paper it was the same, but in actuality we were taken down to 29 statistics. They just tried to sugar coat the fact by leaving score the same on screen.....thinking we wouldn't notice. Which, in fact 99% likely didn't. I did tho. Thanks for the drypop Jackasses 😢
I would like to mention that, for all intents and purposes, base game comes WITH warlords DLC. I have a friend who bought the game after they changed the naming model on Steam and can confirm she can travel to new york and get those skills
Ever since they shipped Sacrum with the exact same things broken as was broken on it in the PTS, I've become incredibly skeptical that they can ship things without it breaking spectacularly. The "one endgame" update introduced constant control point resets, invaded missions not clearing upon completion and the only thing they shipped a fix for, a crafting max roll exploit. Any reason to trust them to not accidentally ship an account wiper bug simply does not exist.
I feel like it’s lazy also…if you really want the game to succeed bring more missions or some new content…to me this is not different than suggesting we just delete our main character each season and start over for the FUN of it! Like Dods buddy in the military that had fun with Morter shells haha!
But ultimately the answer to that would have had to been Ubisoft do not pull development from Div 2 to go work on Star Wars/Avatar. A Destiny level of content updates would require a Bungie size of staff.
Which they pulled this season 2.0 crap year 7.. After the DLC. This was an over "correction" to an issue that wasn't there. I kinda hope this goes horrible so they don't carry it over to Div3
Having invested 11.2k ingame hours (10k of which in Dz) on their game i could seriously write paragraphs and essays about whats about to happen and what a wrong move they re about to make.. Instead i ll comment only this > Active ingame player numbers in a couple of months will be the REAL answer to them which is gonna lead either to cancellin the entire Ip and D3 OR we about to get an insanely good Division 3 game. One of the two brother , one of the two. They gonna be forced to either close the shop or make it good.
Agree 100% with everything you say. Will be interesting to see if the devs do actually listen to the broader community or just a vocal minority. Sadly, I think I already know the answer... Love your work. Great content. Keep uploading. It's good for the health.
There is not enough variations in builds or game mechanics to make a seasonal model work or be worth it. Games like path. Of exile do seasons and still be enjoyable after 100s of restarts.
I got 2 thought points. thought 1: The whole seasonal character is for the story, balancing gear/weapons (AKA expertise is broken/OP and they can't nerf/balance it), and doing seasonal modifiers that's not like GE and is all season long. thought 2: I'm mixed on the whole one endgame. I hate it because there is no lvl 30 DZs (for farming exotic components) anymore and almost all the WONY is free. I love it because more players are able to matchmake those contents.
Level 40 progression should have never been locked behind a paywall. That was a huge mistake and contradicted what the dev team originally stated about not dividing (no pun intended) the player base.
Can someone tell why it is OK for "The Eagle's Grasp Gloves to gets a pass for having the same talent on both its brand set and its attributes slot, but for the named PICARO'S HOLSTER it is impossible to give that holster weapon damage for its core and for its attribute slot?
It's annoying that it effectively breaks the community in two camps who can't play with each other. We're definitely going to feel that in matchmaking queue times.
That's a really good observation. If half the player base is on seasonal and half not, it completely invalidates their marketing spin of this is good for the entire community and will reduce queues.
Assuming new gear/exotics are locked to the season track until the end, and if it something good, it sounds like you'll need to use a seasonal character if you want to play with them until the season ends and they'll presumably enter the general loot pool. At least if they let you 'graduate' early, like BDO, then you could get the new stuff and immediately withdraw it on main. Also, the thing you said about the intermission is it states that starts after the season ends so you won't be able to roll up then and blitz the season track. If the season is truly over by then then it sounds like the only thing you'll have access to is the climax mission (so you can just do this and it completes the whole manhunt?) and whatever your season guy put into the shared stash. I don't get the complaints about WONY. It has been long enough. Charge a minimal fee for the whole thing. We need more players. I don't care if they get it for next to nothing.
the new difficulty mode is gonna be them spamming grenadiers, turret guys, car chicks and overpowered red enemies......... By making you grind is the Ubisoft/ Massive MO... hence starting the watch levels AFTER the game came out.... Nobody should be surprised that they dont care is all Im saying....
Can imagine they started the conceptional phase of Div 3 with this in mind and said "lets test it in Div 2 and how the playerbase receives it" and a year later we have this now. Still im openminded, i play several other Games with Seasons and if you get it right it can be fun for a while but after 8 years of not doing Season its madness to tell the playerbase to get used to it. Still have a liitle hope the DLC will have a Wintersetting but i know thats delusional.
They’re doing for new players. Your signal character is a way to level up quickly. Catch up to everybody else get some be mad gear and then transition your character into your main but for veterans it’s just the way for you to play through the season. Grab some here, move it onto your into your regular stash and utilize it on your mainvideo is not going to age well when season two starts and find out you were mostly wrong about every opinion
Also thanks, it's about time someone on TH-cam called themon the pts. We have given them are time, our weekend away from family and friends to test their game just to be ignored. F'n joke and more should be said/done.
I swear every video I see I end up asking the same question, "Are you new?" Of course they don't care about your feedback. I also find it comical that people are (supposedly) deleting their account over something that hasn't even been released yet. I'm curious if they will even be able to implement their plan. But I refuse to get upset over something that hasn't happened yet. There are far more issues in this game that are more important than the impending seasonal character. Again something that has NOT happened yet.
You're not "starting again" on a seasonal character; you're playing a toon in parallel for a relatively short time. "Starting again" would imply that your main character and all your precious loot is gone.
Apparently, according to RogueGold, Warlords is now bundled in when you buy D2. No idea of pricing but this should’ve been the ONLY thing they did. It’s all that was needed to have One Endgame.
The point was to eliminate the split playerbase and open endgame to everyone who purchased the game. Don't really have a problem with that, they've basically given the DLC away for free for years now and just formalized it. But they're still keeping the actual content of the DLC exclusive to those who own it. I don't really have a problem with that. If people are upset that something they paid $30 for 5 years ago is now sort of free there are much bigger problems.
@@RCMizK3w1 Oh I agree. It should’ve part of an original purchase from maybe 12 months after the DLC came out. I picked the game up for £5 and bought the DLC for £15. I have no issue with everybody paying an amount for access to level 40. Those that already own D2 without the DLC will still have to buy it, those that buy into the franchise now for the first time will effectively be forced to buy it, which isn’t a bad thing. This was the only move the devs needed to make though. The rest of the seasonal character crap is, well, crap.
Spot on mate. Couldn't agree more. TD2 devs hate the veteran players. We have been a thorn in their side for years. We are the ones that shine light on problems they'd rather ignore. There is currently a bug in the raids that makes it impossible to get good times anymore. The oxy damage glitch was the one thing I hoped would be fixed yesterday, but nope. Strats and mechanics that have worked for years are gone. Times will never be near what they were. Devs don't care, because only a tiny fraction of players are speed runners. Historically, veteran players don't feed the development coffers. I haven't given Ubisoft a cent since I bought the game nearly 6 years ago. For years their focus has been on new players who will purchase DLC and cosmetics. We are just squatters to them. They literally are implementing a system that will separate the troublemaking veterans from the micro-transaction newbies. Console games aren't made for long term playability. Development costs go out while little or no sales money is coming in. 6 years is crazy long for a console game. A subscription based service like WoW is the only way to make TD2 great again. No money coming in means no content/fixes going out. The seasonal character is a ploy by UBI to make some money off new players and hopefully hold our attention and sustain the game until TD3. I'm having none of it. I bought a gaming PC and have been enjoying games like GZW and BodyCam instead. I hope Seasons 2.0 is good, but we all know it's gonna be trash.
I will be just completing everything the last 2 weeks when I am not working I don't have time to be making a new character every 15 weeks I rather just use my main just speaking for myself but I'm pretty sure atleast half the player base will just wait it took me 2 days to complete the season track so it just better to wait tbh
D4 has 12 character slots now and I predict it will be 14 in expansion. Give it a shot now, lots of reworked stuff. I am willing to give the Seasons 2.0 plan a fair shake BUT their track record tells me they will, more likely than not, screw it up.
That master difficulty has me concerned if it happens to be harder than legendary. If it is, I feel we could be getting classified type gears in the game. So we players can have even more power in order to stand a chance of doing master difficulty. But at same time that will widen the gap of power level from new players and fully optimized players even more. In PvE Idk what could happen but in PvP. New players coming and fighting opponents will have much harder time, and getting to be on par with them could take weeks of grind. I could be wrong but this is how it is in Div 1, might have similar outcome in Div 2 as well.
On the Ubisoft store they did remove the option to just buy the base game, for whatever reason steam hasn't changed. However, I don't get being upset about the one-endgame thing. I got WoNY for free because it was on sale two years ago, did you hate it then? Just seems like an odd reason, things always change in price, and now it's basically free, what's the problem with that?
Dod thank you for always being logical. This recent fiasco once again has proved basic reading comprehension and critical thinking skills are at an all time low 🙏
"You'd have to delete something. Nah man." You'd make the decision IF they gave you something compelling enough. They have not done that since what, Heartbreaker? We'll see how this first 2.0 season goes but you know what they say about first impressions.
What makes me angry is when people tell me just don't play the seasonal characters... yup, when everyone is running seasonal legacy characters, matchmaking will be none existent and I enjoy matching in division 2 doing random missions. I quit destiny 2 over the game feeling like I need to play the game exclusively to make progress and heavily punished for taking a break and playing another game. I'm not going to say that division 2s progression is bad. But for me the meat of these games is buildcrafting once at max lvl. Not the game is gonna be 90 percent chores just to get somewhere where I was last season... I'm worried bro.
This bloke tríes to be objective while speaking his mind, thats has to be Respected. Of course he had to be brit, they usually roll like that…..Always liked that about them!
spot on..... I deleted all my ubisoft content when they announced their actual plans... I didnt spend 1500 hours leveling and optimizing my characters and gear to have to start over again for every season.. Im done with them.. Lets see how long the new players will stick with this.. if they like it.. more power to them.. its not for me...I wont be spending any more money with that company.
Tbh I’m done with division til they release a new one. 5yrs out of a game is a decent life, Mayhaps it’s time to look at division 3 or dare I say a spin off. Cause even a spin off is better than constantly adding to the clusterfuck that is this mess. Edit - for those who are gonna tell me their opinion about how this is good and they’re doing good work. I’ll say this preemptively so as not to waste your time or mine. Hahahahahhaa
I think I would rather grind my characters up level 50 than do this seasonal bs . Ubisoft should have asked the community what they needed to do in the game to make it more interesting for the player base . Think the devs have really lost the plot on year 6 seasonal stuff . Like you said will probably do the last 2 weeks of the seasons on my main characters
To me the seasonal character is just like Decent game mode except in the open world and you can keep your progress. And since not a lot of people play decent it feels like they are just shoving that mode in our face. I have been playing this game for almost 5 years and all these changes that they did so the new players feel at the same level we are is just BS.
Sayville characters I’m going to have expertise my friend. Of course your main is going to be way more powerful by the way all your SHT acquisition is going to transfer all over.
I actually watch NYl video absolutely great stuff, now ,your it's probably the best truthful opinion from all community . I could agree more the silence lack of any communication completely ignorance from devs about pts pointless pretending that they give a fuck. Over f.. complicated new season ,time that devs could invest to improve and ad new content, division 3 is coming why we need this who has this f.. idea.i invest 5 years now what??!!!! Dupmp in toilet I won't play this bloody seasons ,hope is optional otherwise that's it for me could care less any more. And how is that devs force us and know better what we want?!! No way I repeat WE ALL STILL HERE BECAUSE OF OUR MONEY
@@ShutterSpeedGaming They introduce a new mechanic that changes the way the majority of the game (and mostly endgame) are played. They are usually pretty transformative, and fun mechanics. I haven't played in a couple of seasons, but that's the general gist of it.
Thank you for being a creator that says what the actual vet player base is thinking.
not all
No one cares @@timw8948
right? i didn't even participate in this past PTS as i've lost all hope in the game
@@timw8948maybe. But you're most certainly in the minority if not 🤘😏
Literally the best Division channel for adults with brains on the internet.
Agree 💯 👍.
Dod and rougegold are the only ones I watch
@loganmills1777 rogue is a ubi shil
Glad im not the only one to think the FAQ answered fuck all
"You'd have to delete something."
I deleted my Ubisoft launcher.
Now that's funny and rather apt. 😂
Finally a content creator that speak the truth and not sticking their head into the butts of Massive and Ubisoft. Season 2.0 is just sucks, it`s so artificial, you don`t have shared resources, they force you to play with certain gear in LOOTER game, strips you from the story (main reason to play when you already have everything else). And give you NOTHING in return.
Also, I like how they answer to question about the reason to having a main character anyway with basically NOTHING. They say so vague and worthless things just to shut us up.
Basically, this FAQ is just FuсK You
Well said 😊
They should give you a CHOICE to use a Seasonal Character and not force it on you, forcing you to sideline your main that you did grinding for hours for the make. It may be the final thing that forces me out of Div 2.
Now if only the devs would pay attention, listen, and understand the community, the way that you seem to do.
Dont forget about the lack of cosmetic content in the season pass... last season we got 2 outfits, 2 emotes and a mask. This season we get 1 outfit... thats all
Don't forget about exotic drops from the season. Had like 4 last season this season 1, and 1 if you paid for the bottom track.
There is a 2nd outfit, locked behind 30$ paywall.
@@AstraKitsune most likely another 5 on the way
I'm very much of the "fuck cosmetics" mindset. I appreciate that other people like to play barbie dress up though. You guys should be catered to as much as the rest of us.
*nods* i've never liked any of the cosmetics in this game. it makes no sense for being something of a tacticle looter shooter and they give us things that screams "hey i'm here"
Dod, you are the ONLY content creator who has actually come out and fully discussed the communities issues with this utter utter tripe.
I salute you. Well done. Thank you.
None of it is good. Most of our feelings reflect your own.
Total dev brain fart that spattered the pan before returning a big brown wet splash back up the ballon knot.
Epic take on hot topic! Well said. True every word. This is gonna fuck shit up so much its gonna be hilarious. Ubisoft is gonna be wondering were all the old players have gone.
Thanks for the shout out mate. One minor point that I am not certain on. The presentation and FAQ were not completely clear on this, but I think that the only seasonal content that your main can do is the climax mission. One final orgasm of excitement, a chance to shoot all over Keeners or Kelso's face, at the end of the season I guess. The way I think it will work is that that weekly scouts, which lets be honest will be projects with a voice over, will be dropped one per week for the first 15 weeks for your seasonal character to complete. At the end of the season, the climax mission will be unlocked - it didn't say if you need to complete all of the previous weeks scouts for this to happen or whether it unlocks automatically though. The bit that is unsaid is whether you can complete all the weekly scouts in one go at the end of the season (with your main), or whether they are time based / locked like most of the projects are.
Great video, well presented and argued points. Did not know about the incursion 802 and that is so disappointing that they have decided to dump it, presumably for seasons.
It should be optional to play the season with seasonal characters that give's you extra cosmetics and other rewards so that you don't HAVE too play it if you don't want too, but are incentivized too.
I suppose massive wants to put a final nail in the coffin. Thank you for being this one cc to say what we vets think. Forking thank you.
Finally your take on the situation is here. I hope its gona be wake up call for massive. Since they actually renamed "amplify damage to" on amp damage perks after your video.
The games 6 years old at this point. People have what they want, they just want to jump in and use the builds they have or tinker around with new gear for a few weeks that comes out each season. That’s how long it takes to get the new brands and named pieces with the rolls you want, 4/5 seasonal exotics are undesirable anyways. The story is null and has grasped at straws in recent seasons, so at this point new gear is the content people want..
This seems like a cheap way to release a “new game” or at least an attempt to give us the experience without developing it.
This games has shown that if devs don’t have a clear vision or understanding how to balance things it’s going to be a mess and players shouldn’t waste their time on them. The Brooklyn DLC is going to add even more issues, my reason for saying this is players will run into the stash issues cause dlc’s should introduce new weapons and gear, people are already at the cap and need space but devs said they’re not giving us anymore. since they’re introducing this new season system why would anyone want to participate in the dlc if main characters don’t mean anything but then if go back on the seasons 2.0 when the dlc comes out it just proves it was a waste of time. I personally think this seasons 2.0 is prep for for a new level cap.
The game already had you grinding. If you weren't farming control points, then you were farming countdown. You had to choose how you wanted to spend your time farming. Or you spent time making an alt character to run in NY to feed your main to up your expertise. Now they want to do seasons?, and our mains don't mean shit anymore 😂 Im pretty much done after that announcement.
15:51 Thank you, finally someone said it. I haven't touched Descent since it was released - literally nope'd out that mode when I saw my character stripped of gear and skills. Never looked back. Same why I won't play seasons and stick to my main char, unless they'll introduce gear exclusive to seasonal drops, then I just nope out completely and stop playing. Story and cosmetics I can bare being locked behind seasons, not gear tho(or maybe add it to the general loot pool after season end?).
This new update is the best ever thing for me - I've started going to the gym again instead of wasting time playing division
Good move! 😊
If you can find the passion you had for DV2 in that endeavor that will be of great benefit 😂
In regards to the feedback ; I grew up with 9 sisters and they would always come to me and “ask” my opinion on what outfit to wear lol and guess what? They’d pick the opposite outfit , so this is how devs essentially work especially in Division .
Very well said mate hopefully the development team will see this video
Spot on, Dod. I may try playing it myself only for the heck of experiencing and see if I will like it (but I may not to be honest). Also, I hate using rifles/shotguns in this game specially how spongy NPCs are, they are as twice tiring to spamming clicks unlike ARs/LMGs. I'd rather play this game than those new games that took the dev's time and effort which should have been in the Division in the first place. Im not falling to the scheme wherein I will be sway to play a new/about to be released game because of this "Season 2.0 BS". Lastly, why would the reason a player to gain more XP if in the end it will be capped and then become (intentionally) worthless and not utilized accordingly. They pissing-off most (if not all) veterans for this scheme they're experimenting.
Ubi/Massive don’t have a team big enough to deal with bugs/server maintenance let alone a team big enough to deal with Season 2.0.
RIP Division 2.
Seen this over and over with a hard reset of the game. You wanted to complete builds, you went to summit. You wanted to complete expertise organically, you went to countdown. You want blueprints, descent. You can’t force people down one road for an experience. it was all for nothing.
Yep. They've tried it a bit with the Dark Zone as well because the PVP is so bad in the game. You're not going to convince people to play bad mechanics or boring content by dangling gear in front of them. They'll just stop playing altogether.
@@GMartLive pvp was never even a second thought for the game. Lol I’m currently 24th in shd agents defeated. Only change they made was conflict was given all the xp and better loot. Expertise pushed everyone away which was the issue from the start. You’ll have people that grind then those who will use exploits to keep up. Then others that don’t want to do anything and for it all to be handed (which are the people the devs listen to).
@@lElitePanda#facts
Tbh they should have just scrapped this whole game when the original developers left, and saved us all a lot of stress & heartache. Because it's 💯 been nothing but a complete shit-show ever since...!!
Hi DOD, I think the seasons will ONLY be doable using the seasonal character, even in the last 2 weeks you will not be able to use the main ones to do it (except for the "climax" mission).
I also think that you will be able to do the season in 1 or 2 weeks and the rest ... play your regular / main characters doing ... golden bullet an the like, outside of the season progression or play your seasonal character to upgrade and tweak your newly acquired gear and weapons.
My understanding is that your main character won't be able to do the season because it's only available during the intermission and the only thing you can do is the Climax Mission. Also, how do you get Kenner's watch if you never kill Kenner?
Real talk from real mature Division content creator. I really appreciate the insight you have about this shit show since it's reflecting exactly our fellings. The paid advertisers who are simping to Ubisoft here in TH-cam (we all know who they are) are pathetic and you are definitely not one of them.✌️
People need to move on from division 2, because maybe then that the devs will give some actual NEW content.. Not the some season garbage, no.. Actual new content.. Like c'mon, this game has been out for 5 years by now.. When is the last time they actually did put in the effort to release new stuff.. Seasons have been here for so long that i can't remember when there was actual content... The seasonpass itself has pretty much nothing to offer, the last time where i even bought one was when it had the black/red hunter outfit with the bloodied mask in it..
Meanwhile they released a bunch of fomo outfit bundles that they are now trying to sell to us again (As they reintroduced the recruiter one) just to get some pocket change here and there, these outfit bundles should've been behind ingame unlocks.. Take the recruiter one, that should've 100% been a reward for beating that final recruit mission on the highest difficulty (Aside of being able to buy the outfit bundle).
Anyway, the game has been going downhill ever since and literally no amount of feedback is going to change that.. As they don't care about feedback to begin with..
the incursion was a very good way of starting to create good faith with the community again. I don't blame people for gaining some hope at that point thinking more positive things were on the horizon. But with their lack of communication and how garbage last season's story was, I lost all hope a while ago.
That thumbnail lol. Perfect summation: Season 666.
This i have to agree is a massive mistake literally , why dont the devs admit it and say its the end of the line , by doing this they will get the same result , just my 2 pennies worth, and i have said the stash space has been too small, how many gear sets have they added ,i am constantly just keeping my loadouts and scrapping the rest due to lack of room.
Yeah, there's no way I'm starting a new character to do this. This is stupid.
Not always agreed with you but everything in this video is spot on. I agree, IF I continue to play, it will be last 2 weeks if every season. Just sad that I won't see clan mates regularly, and we're a nice community.
Does the Q&A actually say you can go back and access ALL of the seasonal stuff in the ‘Intermission’ or just the collected gear and ‘Money Shot Mission (TM)’ on normal through to ‘Master’?
Seems to me the dev team have employed a master by the surname of Bates.
Not just start again, it's starting over again every 4 months.
I do not see my self running seasonal bs, only cuz of having to grind everything over and over without having a library.
Know how long it will take rng to drop, the 15 weeks will go by before you even get decent roles of what you need on the gear you need.
Every time i deleted a character, i would take the gear to my stash, saved so much time. I also rarely ever boosted my characters.
15 hours the fastest i ran from level 1 to 40 with watch, the next run ran about 20 hours.
I farmed level 30 stuff just to get the last update, where they upped the base max level. So glad my level 30 is now level 29!
This.. did it for years on Diablo 3
On paper your Lvl 30 stayed Lvl 30 just you're gear was downgraded to Lvl 29. Though. You are correct, as on paper our Lvl or Tier was the same, but in actuality we were taken down to 29 statistics. They just tried to sugar coat the fact by leaving score the same...thinking we wouldn't notice. Which, in fact 99% likely didn't. I did tho. Thanks for the drypop Jackasses☹️🖕
Technically your Lvl 30 stayed Lvl 30 just you're gear was downgraded to Lvl 29. Though you are correct, as on paper our Lvl or Tier was the same, but in actuality we were taken down to 29 statistics. They just tried to sugar coat the fact by leaving score the same...thinking we wouldn't notice. Which, in fact 99% likely didn't. I did tho. Thanks for the drypop Jackasses 😢
Technically our Lvl 30 stayed Lvl 30 just our gear was downgraded to Lvl 29. Though you are correct, as on paper it was the same, but in actuality we were taken down to 29 statistics. They just tried to sugar coat the fact by leaving score the same on screen.....thinking we wouldn't notice. Which, in fact 99% likely didn't.
I did tho. Thanks for the drypop Jackasses 😢
@@ShockBot127 so how many times did you really type all this out? Yt is so great.
I would like to mention that, for all intents and purposes, base game comes WITH warlords DLC. I have a friend who bought the game after they changed the naming model on Steam and can confirm she can travel to new york and get those skills
More like corporate wants you to ask for feedback, but they're not paying anyone to listen to it.
I was hoping you would cover this .
The 4 skills locked behind WONY are the decoy, fire sticky, regular sticky & the shock trap
Ever since they shipped Sacrum with the exact same things broken as was broken on it in the PTS, I've become incredibly skeptical that they can ship things without it breaking spectacularly. The "one endgame" update introduced constant control point resets, invaded missions not clearing upon completion and the only thing they shipped a fix for, a crafting max roll exploit. Any reason to trust them to not accidentally ship an account wiper bug simply does not exist.
I feel like it’s lazy also…if you really want the game to succeed bring more missions or some new content…to me this is not different than suggesting we just delete our main character each season and start over for the FUN of it! Like Dods buddy in the military that had fun with Morter shells haha!
Your take is dumber than Dods. Their plan sounds way more ambitious than adding some stupid missions.
@@matttttttttttttt685how long have you been playing the division franchise? I’m curious.
But ultimately the answer to that would have had to been Ubisoft do not pull development from Div 2 to go work on Star Wars/Avatar.
A Destiny level of content updates would require a Bungie size of staff.
@@TheEedjit since div 1 version 1.6
@@Ghost_Text I would be happy if they just fixed descent.
Which they pulled this season 2.0 crap year 7.. After the DLC. This was an over "correction" to an issue that wasn't there. I kinda hope this goes horrible so they don't carry it over to Div3
Having invested 11.2k ingame hours (10k of which in Dz) on their game i could seriously write paragraphs and essays about whats about to happen and what a wrong move they re about to make.. Instead i ll comment only this > Active ingame player numbers in a couple of months will be the REAL answer to them which is gonna lead either to cancellin the entire Ip and D3 OR we about to get an insanely good Division 3 game. One of the two brother , one of the two. They gonna be forced to either close the shop or make it good.
Agree 100% with everything you say. Will be interesting to see if the devs do actually listen to the broader community or just a vocal minority. Sadly, I think I already know the answer...
Love your work. Great content. Keep uploading. It's good for the health.
Bro, what's not to like about only being to play seasonal activities, with your main, the last 2 weeks of a 4 month season?
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There is not enough variations in builds or game mechanics to make a seasonal model work or be worth it. Games like path. Of exile do seasons and still be enjoyable after 100s of restarts.
Devs kicking themselves in the a$$ with this stuff.
Right there at the end is one of my biggest concerns no one has addressed. I don't want to get stuck with only 2, or 3 viable builds for 3 months
I log in just to see friends, well the few that still play. Honestly don't think we'll ever see any new content!
Two weeks is not enough time for our main character. It should be level up your seasonal characters to 40 and then you can use your main character 👍
This is all about preparing you for what is to come in Division 3
I got 2 thought points.
thought 1: The whole seasonal character is for the story, balancing gear/weapons (AKA expertise is broken/OP and they can't nerf/balance it), and doing seasonal modifiers that's not like GE and is all season long.
thought 2: I'm mixed on the whole one endgame. I hate it because there is no lvl 30 DZs (for farming exotic components) anymore and almost all the WONY is free. I love it because more players are able to matchmake those contents.
Yeah... I'm not starting over at shd 5000+... No more Division for me
Level 40 progression should have never been locked behind a paywall. That was a huge mistake and contradicted what the dev team originally stated about not dividing (no pun intended) the player base.
I'm leaving. I was experiencing it in Diablo, it's not for me.
Please don't. We need u so bad
Can someone tell why it is OK for "The Eagle's Grasp Gloves to gets a pass for having the same talent on both its brand set and its attributes slot, but for the named PICARO'S HOLSTER it is impossible to give that holster weapon damage for its core and for its attribute slot?
It's annoying that it effectively breaks the community in two camps who can't play with each other. We're definitely going to feel that in matchmaking queue times.
That's a really good observation. If half the player base is on seasonal and half not, it completely invalidates their marketing spin of this is good for the entire community and will reduce queues.
Assuming new gear/exotics are locked to the season track until the end, and if it something good, it sounds like you'll need to use a seasonal character if you want to play with them until the season ends and they'll presumably enter the general loot pool. At least if they let you 'graduate' early, like BDO, then you could get the new stuff and immediately withdraw it on main.
Also, the thing you said about the intermission is it states that starts after the season ends so you won't be able to roll up then and blitz the season track. If the season is truly over by then then it sounds like the only thing you'll have access to is the climax mission (so you can just do this and it completes the whole manhunt?) and whatever your season guy put into the shared stash.
I don't get the complaints about WONY. It has been long enough. Charge a minimal fee for the whole thing. We need more players. I don't care if they get it for next to nothing.
the new difficulty mode is gonna be them spamming grenadiers, turret guys, car chicks and overpowered red enemies......... By making you grind is the Ubisoft/ Massive MO... hence starting the watch levels AFTER the game came out.... Nobody should be surprised that they dont care is all Im saying....
Can imagine they started the conceptional phase of Div 3 with this in mind and said "lets test it in Div 2 and how the playerbase receives it" and a year later we have this now. Still im openminded, i play several other Games with Seasons and if you get it right it can be fun for a while but after 8 years of not doing Season its madness to tell the playerbase to get used to it. Still have a liitle hope the DLC will have a Wintersetting but i know thats delusional.
They’re doing for new players. Your signal character is a way to level up quickly. Catch up to everybody else get some be mad gear and then transition your character into your main but for veterans it’s just the way for you to play through the season. Grab some here, move it onto your into your regular stash and utilize it on your mainvideo is not going to age well when season two starts and find out you were mostly wrong about every opinion
Master difficulty, have you noticed how the difficulty icons run 1,2,3 chevrons then 1 star 3 star. What happened to the 2 star? Master difficulty?
You make a very good point. I've not seen anyone else pick up on that. 👍
yeah, i'm not starting from zero no way...prob just wait till the DLC arrives...
Also thanks, it's about time someone on TH-cam called themon the pts. We have given them are time, our weekend away from family and friends to test their game just to be ignored. F'n joke and more should be said/done.
It's almost like you articulated all my thoughts
Dod ccould you review this video?
7 Secrets For Killer Ninjabike Builds | Division 2
NYL Casual Gaming
But can you? (Create a Striker's/Eclipse build)?
Aren't those Blueprints for level 40 only?
I swear every video I see I end up asking the same question, "Are you new?" Of course they don't care about your feedback. I also find it comical that people are (supposedly) deleting their account over something that hasn't even been released yet. I'm curious if they will even be able to implement their plan. But I refuse to get upset over something that hasn't happened yet. There are far more issues in this game that are more important than the impending seasonal character. Again something that has NOT happened yet.
Oh shit….i’ve been waiting to hear your take on this
You're not "starting again" on a seasonal character; you're playing a toon in parallel for a relatively short time. "Starting again" would imply that your main character and all your precious loot is gone.
Apparently, according to RogueGold, Warlords is now bundled in when you buy D2. No idea of pricing but this should’ve been the ONLY thing they did. It’s all that was needed to have One Endgame.
The point was to eliminate the split playerbase and open endgame to everyone who purchased the game. Don't really have a problem with that, they've basically given the DLC away for free for years now and just formalized it. But they're still keeping the actual content of the DLC exclusive to those who own it. I don't really have a problem with that. If people are upset that something they paid $30 for 5 years ago is now sort of free there are much bigger problems.
@@RCMizK3w1 Oh I agree. It should’ve part of an original purchase from maybe 12 months after the DLC came out.
I picked the game up for £5 and bought the DLC for £15. I have no issue with everybody paying an amount for access to level 40. Those that already own D2 without the DLC will still have to buy it, those that buy into the franchise now for the first time will effectively be forced to buy it, which isn’t a bad thing.
This was the only move the devs needed to make though. The rest of the seasonal character crap is, well, crap.
didn't know about that leaked incursion2 data, interesting
Spot on mate. Couldn't agree more. TD2 devs hate the veteran players. We have been a thorn in their side for years. We are the ones that shine light on problems they'd rather ignore. There is currently a bug in the raids that makes it impossible to get good times anymore. The oxy damage glitch was the one thing I hoped would be fixed yesterday, but nope. Strats and mechanics that have worked for years are gone. Times will never be near what they were. Devs don't care, because only a tiny fraction of players are speed runners. Historically, veteran players don't feed the development coffers. I haven't given Ubisoft a cent since I bought the game nearly 6 years ago. For years their focus has been on new players who will purchase DLC and cosmetics. We are just squatters to them. They literally are implementing a system that will separate the troublemaking veterans from the micro-transaction newbies. Console games aren't made for long term playability. Development costs go out while little or no sales money is coming in. 6 years is crazy long for a console game. A subscription based service like WoW is the only way to make TD2 great again. No money coming in means no content/fixes going out. The seasonal character is a ploy by UBI to make some money off new players and hopefully hold our attention and sustain the game until TD3. I'm having none of it. I bought a gaming PC and have been enjoying games like GZW and BodyCam instead. I hope Seasons 2.0 is good, but we all know it's gonna be trash.
I will be just completing everything the last 2 weeks when I am not working I don't have time to be making a new character every 15 weeks I rather just use my main just speaking for myself but I'm pretty sure atleast half the player base will just wait it took me 2 days to complete the season track so it just better to wait tbh
D4 has 12 character slots now and I predict it will be 14 in expansion. Give it a shot now, lots of reworked stuff. I am willing to give the Seasons 2.0 plan a fair shake BUT their track record tells me they will, more likely than not, screw it up.
That master difficulty has me concerned if it happens to be harder than legendary. If it is, I feel we could be getting classified type gears in the game. So we players can have even more power in order to stand a chance of doing master difficulty. But at same time that will widen the gap of power level from new players and fully optimized players even more. In PvE Idk what could happen but in PvP. New players coming and fighting opponents will have much harder time, and getting to be on par with them could take weeks of grind. I could be wrong but this is how it is in Div 1, might have similar outcome in Div 2 as well.
On the Ubisoft store they did remove the option to just buy the base game, for whatever reason steam hasn't changed. However, I don't get being upset about the one-endgame thing. I got WoNY for free because it was on sale two years ago, did you hate it then? Just seems like an odd reason, things always change in price, and now it's basically free, what's the problem with that?
Dod thank you for always being logical. This recent fiasco once again has proved basic reading comprehension and critical thinking skills are at an all time low 🙏
"You'd have to delete something. Nah man." You'd make the decision IF they gave you something compelling enough. They have not done that since what, Heartbreaker? We'll see how this first 2.0 season goes but you know what they say about first impressions.
What makes me angry is when people tell me just don't play the seasonal characters... yup, when everyone is running seasonal legacy characters, matchmaking will be none existent and I enjoy matching in division 2 doing random missions. I quit destiny 2 over the game feeling like I need to play the game exclusively to make progress and heavily punished for taking a break and playing another game. I'm not going to say that division 2s progression is bad. But for me the meat of these games is buildcrafting once at max lvl. Not the game is gonna be 90 percent chores just to get somewhere where I was last season... I'm worried bro.
This bloke tríes to be objective while speaking his mind, thats has to be Respected. Of course he had to be brit, they usually roll like that…..Always liked that about them!
I love this gent. William F. Buckley of gaming.
I can't get anyone to do the Incursion, it is a dead space in my game.
Have you tried finding a group on the Bro Squad discord? Or GC Rock?
Won't take you long to get a group in there.
Are you on xbox?
spot on..... I deleted all my ubisoft content when they announced their actual plans... I didnt spend 1500 hours leveling and optimizing my characters and gear to have to start over again for every season.. Im done with them.. Lets see how long the new players will stick with this.. if they like it.. more power to them.. its not for me...I wont be spending any more money with that company.
Tbh I’m done with division til they release a new one. 5yrs out of a game is a decent life, Mayhaps it’s time to look at division 3 or dare I say a spin off. Cause even a spin off is better than constantly adding to the clusterfuck that is this mess.
Edit - for those who are gonna tell me their opinion about how this is good and they’re doing good work.
I’ll say this preemptively so as not to waste your time or mine.
Hahahahahhaa
GTA6 is going to save me from seasonal characters🙏
You can say that again! 😊
So your countdown character is going to lose inventory space, so you can have space for season rewards!
I think I would rather grind my characters up level 50 than do this seasonal bs . Ubisoft should have asked the community what they needed to do in the game to make it more interesting for the player base . Think the devs have really lost the plot on year 6 seasonal stuff . Like you said will probably do the last 2 weeks of the seasons on my main characters
big kick in the a** of the vets who carry the game over the years. done with it til brooklyn drops.
best regards from germany
To me the seasonal character is just like Decent game mode except in the open world and you can keep your progress. And since not a lot of people play decent it feels like they are just shoving that mode in our face.
I have been playing this game for almost 5 years and all these changes that they did so the new players feel at the same level we are is just BS.
Sayville characters I’m going to have expertise my friend. Of course your main is going to be way more powerful by the way all your SHT acquisition is going to transfer all over.
I actually watch NYl video absolutely great stuff, now ,your it's probably the best truthful opinion from all community . I could agree more the silence lack of any communication completely ignorance from devs about pts pointless pretending that they give a fuck. Over f.. complicated new season ,time that devs could invest to improve and ad new content, division 3 is coming why we need this who has this f.. idea.i invest 5 years now what??!!!! Dupmp in toilet I won't play this bloody seasons ,hope is optional otherwise that's it for me could care less any more. And how is that devs force us and know better what we want?!! No way I repeat WE ALL STILL HERE BECAUSE OF OUR MONEY
Path of Exile does seasons the best
How does seasons work in POE?
@@ShutterSpeedGaming They introduce a new mechanic that changes the way the majority of the game (and mostly endgame) are played. They are usually pretty transformative, and fun mechanics.
I haven't played in a couple of seasons, but that's the general gist of it.
Take it you’re done with div2 then!?!
I’ll give it a go and see what I think 1st
ubisoft try not to screw anything challenge *impossible*.
Is this game gonna die like anthem did when they tried do do anthem 2.0 but gave up
What annoys me is we are still doing the same content, I wish they just made content like destiny, at least they get new stuff unlike us ffs
" Essentially they're talking bollucks, and none of it makes sense.."....thats all you needed to say...ggs
Wow they are at it again some of the CC said it was the best thing ever 😢
All the FAQ about seasons 2.0 is the same answer just worded differently
First :) love the game. I'm one of the few looking forward to seasonal characters
Me too....at least trying it to see what kind of experience it gives us.