Is Infinite Punishment Fair? | Ask Shaykh YQ #31
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 พ.ย. 2019
- Infinite punishment is something that exists. But is it really fair?
Shaykh Yasir answers in the video above!
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Yasir Qadhi may Allah give you many Hasanat for this talk inshallah
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I jst love how he manages to break up and analyse the problem in the best way that makes us understand
Yes and his diction plus super english plus super arabic all in one makes him special
Very intellectual.may Allah give you strength and peace in dunya and akhira.shaik Yasir .
Subhaanallah, This was beautifully answered, especially where we are asked to reflect on how we can criticise god for this when we don't even bother to take basic to avoid that punishment
TIMESTAMPS
1:41 Jannah is unanimously agreed to be eternal. Most say jahannam is eternal as although khalid does NOT mean eternal (rather "long"), "Abadan" is also used in Quran for jahannam 3 times in Quran, and abada DOES mean eternal. Only stubborn disbelief leads to eternality.
WISDOMS
1) 5:22 Impossible for human to fully encompass Gods wisdom, and that includes being always able to explain it. Nothing wrong with asking however as even Angels asked.
2) 7:21 Allah is the Law Giver, and it isn't oppression to punish for a crime that a person does himself. 8:50 Makes no sense to judge a crime by how long it too to commit it, for example consider how quickly it takes to shoot someone with a gun. Common sense tells us to judge the nature of the crime, not how long it was done for. Shirk is the greatest sin. 11:03 Aisha asked about her good and generous relative, and Prophet said "he didn't once ask Allah to forgive him". 11:49 We will wish to give up everything to escape Hell, but we are asked for a fraction of that and not to disbelieve.
3) 13:49 SIn would have been eternal if life had been eternal. Quote from Quran: "if they were to come back (to life), they would return back to what they were doing"
JazakAllahu Khaira...
I was gonna takes notes but remembered in the middle of the clip... 😂
Thank you brother
Top Class Knowledge. MashaAllah.
Thank you Sir yasir qadhi for this great khutba
" you are basically asking a human being about the wisdom of Allah, someone who created you and the entire universe."
بارك الله فيك
Wow! What an incredible human being!
Ma Sha Allah. Very good explanation as always. But I have to add that Ibn Taymiyyah disagreeing with 99.9% is fine but must always say as long as there is no disagreement with the Prophet(Pbuh). Also, it is never good to encourage controversy and be obnoxious as it will always leads to Fitnah and therefore controversy should be dealt with in a light and good-hearted manner. I hope Imam Ibn Taymiyyah was not harsh in his controversies.
I find it amazing how some Humans can think they can judge God's judgement,.. If God wants to forgive or punish,... Who are we to think we should have an input on God's decision.
We're not judging. We're just assessing based on what we know as just and unjust. If Allah is evil, is there really a point in complaining? No, it's not up to us either way, we just need to put up with him.
so if someone doesn't think you exist would you get offended? it sounds like god is insecure
@@ish8891 typical religious person, Fuck off kindly.
Why is there always salty ass people in these comment sections lol. Just let us Muslims learn the word of God in peace, go talk about how “insecure” your creator is somewhere else.
@@radielazazy3726 You should accept criticizm just like how any person that has an ideology gets critizied and it's completely fine to get crticized what's not fine is not accepting it and trying to improve, Which you people aren't doing, instead you kill and slaughter and when called out, you ask to let you practice your religion in "peace".
Amazing talk
Assalamualaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuhu
Alhamdulillah, recently we started our new series Jami at Tirmidhi Book of virtues Of The Quran In English we uploaded Chapter 1 to 22 Alhamdulillah.InshaAllah 3 more chapters to finish
Salaam from Nottingham Uk
Maa shaa ALLAH
We need more scholars 👨🏫 like him Pakistan and india!!!!!!
God bless you Qadhi. You are among the best of REAL SCHOLARS, MashAllah, may God bless you with all the best. Ameen.
Assalamwalikum everyone, I need to know the qari of the quran in the beginning and the nasheed link in the end please..jazakallahkhair
Mashaallah shukran. But scary.
In bookkeeping business I have to record clients loan and credit card interest , am I doing a major sin by doing this ? Any advise ...
Rehana Perveen ask a scholar and not any layman on the internet, you can contact yasir qadhi
اللھم رب غفرلی
Where can I ask a question?
What are the two zulms he mentioned at 8:20? Can anyone tell them to me?
MashaAlam.
I had this question. My mom always discuss this topic with me and say that allah is merciful he will take out them. And then she silenced in fear what would happen to them...
khan chacha SubhanAllah
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May Allah bless her with Jannah
No its agains ALLAH mercy to get disbelivers out of punishment. Its eternal for Mushrkeen Zaleemen
@@KamranSher God's mercy is beyond his wrath.
How to calculate business Zakat
Bismillah, Salaam, doesnt khaleedeena can also mean long? The word kulu i believe can mean all or most. Allah knows best.
Who's the reciter?
His more recent video on this, the one that is 2 years old, deals with this subject better.
Personally, I think it is just if Jahannam is eternal. Why? Simply because the Jannah is also eternal. If we then question the eternal state of Jahannam, then we might as well question the eternal state of Jannah. What we did here on earth will be either rewarded with Jannah or punished with Jahannam. If our good deeds are rewarded with eternal abode in Jannah, then it is just if the same bad deeds are punished eternally in Jahannam. If we question the length of punishment in Jahannam, then why do we simply accept the rewards to be eternal also?
However, if the punishment in Jahannam is not eternal, then that simply means that Allah is the Most Merciful, and ending the existence of Jahannam is actually an act of Mercy from Allah.
All in all, Allah knows best.
Actually there is similar view in bible, where the people who end up in hell will be obliterated after their punishment. Allah knows best and may he protect us from such fate.
I don't think jannah should be eternal, when something is infinite it loses it's value.
@@moamenh5133 The akhirah is a realm that's different from our current realm. Because it is a different realm, it also has different laws, such as the absence of death. Jannah is a reward from Allah. It is a special place where it doesn't follow the rules of law of this world where you eat, drink, sleep, have relationships etc to satisfy your needs. There is no such thing as needs in Jannah, you do something because you want to do it, not because you need to do it (or else you die or something). You eat a fruit on earth, but the more you eat the less satisfaction you feels compared to the first bite. But in Jannah, the first bite is unbelievable, yet the more you eat the more delicious it becomes, and each bite taste different from the previous ones. Your spouse will become more beautiful/handsome each time you laid your eyes on them, your clothes, your palaces, everything in Jannah becomes better over time, thus ensuring that there will be no loss of value although it is eternal. Your life each day is not the same, is ever exciting, and nothing shall trouble you, ever. This is the reward that Allah has promised us, an eternal abode that is very special and has nothing like it in this world.
@@Ta-MeemYouth if that's the case I don't think humans deserve this kind of reward and the fact that some are infinitely rewarded doesn't make infinite punishment right in my opinion.
@@moamenh5133 yes, indeed humans do not deserve the infinite rewards. That's why we believe going to Jannah is actually a Grace from Allah, not based on our deeds here. The same goes to punishments, eternal punishments are given to those who deserves it, not to those who doesn't deserve to be punished. Think of it this way, a man solely kill, rape, mutilate, torture, eat and desecrate each one of you friends and family in front of you, these are the people you really care about. Now this guy is caught, but the law gave him a jail sentence for life with no pardon. When asked by the judge, this guy said, "I don't regret killing them, I love every moment of it, and if you give me another chance, I'll do it once again."
Now, tell me, do you think this guy deserves to be punished eternally for what he's done? Or do you think you can forgive and forget everything he has done to you? Think about it carefully and give me your most honest answer. It's easy to say people don't deserve their punishment because we are not the victim. But in the afterlife, victims of all wrongdoings will come in front of Allah, begging Him to punish the wrongdoers. The wrongdoers will be given a fair trial, because the one who will be the judge is none other than Allah, the Most Just. And each punishment varies accordingly, some are even forgiven, some are punished for a little while, some take years while some remain there for eternity. It all depends on the Mercy and Grace of Allah. And those who end up in Jahannam, these people really deserve their punishments, they are not wrongly accused and they are the guiltiest of the guilty.
If Jahanum will cease to exits, what will happen to Shaitan? Who is the root of Evil, main reason of people inside Jahanam ?
The majority opinion is that Jahannam is eternal
But won’t Satan be destroyed (eventually)? Because we know that God is the Most Wise.
13:49 he makes the best argument here
Yes, I agree
What if they don't want to come back to earth? The argument makes no sense
@@mohadams3754 you didn’t understand it, IF Allah were to delete all memories from hell and would sent them back they WOULD follow their old path. The future that will never happen but Allah know the future that will never happen
The problem with that view is “except if Allah wills” was used for Junnah also and no one ever said that Junnah isn’t eternal wouldn’t that be far more in keeping to interpret as those who were either believers or maybe those who hadn’t heard the call but have some sins to answer for?
Actually, if you take a look at 11:107 and 11:108, you’ll find the following:
107: They will reside therein as long as the heavens and the earth will last, except what your Lord wills. Surely your Lord is the doer of what He wants.
108: And as for those who are blessed, they will be in Paradise, abiding therein as long as the heavens and the earth will last, except what your Lord wills, a gift without an end.
He promises in 108 “a gift without end” assuring us that he will never take Jannah away. Hell on the other hand, “Surely your Lord is the doer of what He wills”. Rather open ended...
Put that together with Allah’s infinite Mercy and and Hell’s purpose as a rehabilitative “purifier” and you can see why some scholars are able to defend “finite” Jahannam.
Of course, Allah SWT knows best. I am personally inclined towards IBM Al Qayyim’s evidence for finite Hell but none of us can say for certain.
None of us can ever hope to understand Perfect Wisdom...Perfect Justice.
@@haloandavatar1177 only 1 credible scholar ever said Hell may not be eternal, there is consensus it is, you shouldn't try and make your own interpretations based on what you desire. Allah has made it very clear in so many verses they don’t get out, of course it’s human nature to want ease and we love Allah’s mercy but don’t think about it, trust in his wisdom and justice and make sure you do everything you can not to go there, this is our job brother not to change things to suit what’s easier for people.
Except the way of Hell, to dwell therein forever”
[al-Nisa’ 4:168-169]
Wherein they will abide for ever”
[al-Ahzaab 33:64]
and whosoever disobeys Allaah and His Messenger, then verily, for him is the fire of Hell, he shall dwell therein forever”
[al-Jinn 72:23]
they will be the dwellers of the Fire, to dwell therein forever. And worst indeed is that destination”
[al-Taghaabun 64:10]
And they will cry: ‘O Malik (Keeper of Hell)! Let your Lord make an end of us.” He will say: “Verily, you shall abide forever.’
Indeed We have brought the truth (Muhammad with the Qur’aan) to you, but most of you have a hatred for the truth”
[al-Zukhruf 43:74]
Thus Allaah will show them their deeds as regrets for them. And they will never get out of the Fire”
[al-Baqarah 2:165-167]
Hardly open ended is it brother, no one likes the thought of the naar that’s the point if you believe it avoid it, if Allah left the disbelievers here forever they would likely keep disbelieving forever this is perhaps why it’s eternal Allahu’alim.
Trust Allah’s knowledge and justice and know that He never wrongs anyone even an atoms weight and know He is more merciful to a believer than the believers own mother.
@@haloandavatar1177 To interpret "Surely your Lord is the doer of what he wants" as saying it is "open-ended" is a strange interpretation. According to translations, Allah says in the Quran e.g. that he will forgive every sin less than the sin of shirk but the sin of shirk he will never forgive. In light of that, it is clear that Jahannam is eternal. Ibnul Qayyim/Ibn Taymiyyah's argument that "khalidun fiha abadah" does not mean eternal is a farce as the same can be argued then for Jannah.
Also Abadah does mean forever, so saying it does not is clear rejection of the apparent meaning of the word. "Khaliduna" on the other hand refers to something that is immortal i.e. living forever. People who enter either Jannah or Jahannam (even those sinners who enter Jahannam and Allah forgives) will immortally reside there. Even if you are taken out it does not effect the fact that you will not be subject to death in Jahannam.
Similar to statements like "a gift without end" we have e.g. in Quran 43:75, "it will never subside for them" in reference to Jahannam. If you argue, "a gift without end" refers to eternality of Jannah, then necessarily "it will never subside for them" means that Jahannam will never end.
Yes we can have more open discussions on who is subject to eternal punishment, there is not consensus on that. For example the Ash'ari school holds that disbelievers who receive a false impression of Islam will still be given the chance to enter Jannah by means of a seperate test. Atharis (e.g. al-Mardawi) argue that the non-muslim monotheist will enter Jannah eventually, as do the Maturidis. Allah talks in the Quran about how he will judge between the Christians suggesting that for some of them they do not understand their doctrine of trinity in a polytheistic way, but in just a generally blasphemous manner. We can have these legitimate discussions and also argue to the the extent of the Prophet Alayhis Salam's intercession. But to deny eternal punishment as a whole is just ridiculous.
To argue that Jannah or Jahannam will not end is an innovation (bid'ah), which at worst is disbelief (kufr).
@@delaman4991 I would go further and argue that Ibn Taymiyyah is not credible, so no credible Sunni scholar has ever said Hell is not eternal.
@@muhammadhasan2582 Ibn taymiyah dud by day that he discussed the two view points his student argued the position more so but even him he was discussing the views more than he was making that his default Allahu’alim but why would you say ibn taymiyah isn’t credible, Ahl al sunnah are pretty much united onhis position as one of the most prominent scholars after the early generations
What if someone read critically all the Quran, Hadiths and still not convinced? Will Allah still burn him/her in hell for eternity?
yes because allah likes to burn anybody he wants to even if they are simply questioning their existence if i didn't think something is fair allah would punish me smh and i thought allah was more merciful to his people than a mother to her own child i simply think this is absolute manipulation psychological kanipulation in particular brother I'm ex muslim and i hope you find what is right for you question your existence don't stop thinking it's the way humans advanced yo what they are at now good luck in life
@@hexil6283 STFU Y DICKHEAD
@@Sizlac09 good point
Coming from Ibadhi school of thought, our belief is Hell will be forever. My question is that is there a possibility that these Muslims will be given a very low grade paradise, with much less facilities and benefits instead of hell first?
Good!
Expect Good from a Good Lord.
If firaon would not have died,he would have continued his mischief-for eternity..
Allah caused him to die
Thats why his punishment is eternal..
As for those who believe in Allah, they fear him.. so at a point they would stop their wrong action, so believers punishment is not eternal.
Allah says he have a softcorner for believers
Credit: baseera media youtubechannel
But i modified some language and added some extra
Agree
If you shall convert to Islam ALL your Past SINS shall be forgiven and you shall enter Jannah (Paradise) Inshallah.
Here is another answer to this question, later half of the video has what satisfied me: th-cam.com/video/W588CgBlFGo/w-d-xo.html
Please read my answer that i quoted from baseera media
I always thought that the crime sentence is equivalent to the severity of that crime but also to whom we did that crime, a person plotting to kill someone who is bulliying him at school, or someone who insulted or opressed him in some place, isnt the same as someone killing his own loving innocent mother to take her money for example, if he's a junky of something like that...... killing the one who wants you only love is totally different, the sentence must be multiplied by another factor........... and for that I always thought that being wrong to the eternal , is simply multiplied by eternity, whatever the punishement: small fire, big fire, it has to be eternal, otherwise it wont fit the fact that Allah is eternal............ and its only my humble reasoning, and Allahu is best knowing, AND FOR SURE, as the quran states, ALLAH SUBHANAHU WA TAALA DOES WHATEVER HE WANTS
I get your point brother, but it is all about the hadith that states that for every 1 of us there is 1000 of yagog and magog. That is a great amount of people that aren't hidden easily. But Allah knows best and he has power over all things
Allah swt has the authority to do whatever he wills. Still this servant of his is imperfect, in this case in terms of understanding. Honestly personally I still not comfortable with the idea of eternal hell, but Allah swt bestows his mercy by informing us that on the day of judgement, noone will be judged wrongly. I hope Allah will ease my mind either before that day or on that day by making me understand the concept of eternal hell. Insyaallah
Tjat poses a problem. If a mentally deranged person commits a crime, and a sane human being commits a crime , its different. The results produced by both minds are of different gravity even if they commit the same crime. A finite mind cannot produce an infinite result.
Besides, an infinitely forgiving God creating an infinite hellfire is just out of the bounds.
@@therandomnomad435 you're looking at half of the picture, its the exact same concept christians try to enforce, an "all loving god", but never "a just god" an authoritative god, a powerful god...... these also are attributes that completes the image of god...... paradise is about his love, hell is not created by pleasure, its just a necessity for justice
@@abdelhakyac7285 at the face of an infinite crime, what comes to work? Will his infinite justice or his infinite mercy?
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ridiculous why do I have to be punished .in a god I don't believe in..
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I'm just curious about the discussion. It someone answers I would get notified
Then why you concerned about punishment. Don't worry there will be no one come to you after your death 🤣🤣🤣🤣or maybe angels of hell
MOS Transistor I am not afraid of punishment, but I find it absurd that Muslims force some people to believe that.
God’s judgement is eternal. His forgiveness is eternal too.
God is eternal
Islam gives you the chance to avoid ETERNAL HELLFIRE.
But what if someone doesn’t believe?
14:00 What if a righteous person is against Islam because he sincerely believes that it's not the right religion
@GuruTruthSpeak very well. Take this hadith here islamqa.info/en/answers/111252/. According to leading Muslim scholars, there is no harm in killing someone who has defiled the prophet. That means terrorist attacks to silence journalists and caricature artists in the name of allah are not problematic to someone of your belief. How do you like that?
@GuruTruthSpeak no I'm an unrelated bystander
@GuruTruthSpeak is this your way of exiting the discussion? I asked you a question, you misunderstood me, and I clarified in an understandable way that I'm putting *your* morals into question
@GuruTruthSpeak This hasnt anything to do with me, I'm LITERALLY an unbiased observer. Neither am I the one who's insulting your prohet, nor am I concerned with this happening in any way. This is about YOUR opinion on this incident and nothing else. So why cant you just answer it honestly? Are you ashamed or conflicted?
@GuruTruthSpeak "posted a counter-question" THATS EXACTLY WHAT DODGING A QUESTION IS. PLEASE JUST ANSWER MY QUESTION ALREADY...why would I answer your question if you refuse to answer mine???
This argument was debunked by Hassan Radwan
I wonder if that ayah was talking about the new earth after Judgement day.
"As long as the heavens and the earth endure"
Couldn't you take that to believe that hell will cease to exist after the destruction of the next earth and the heavens (space).
So hell could feel like eternity but only last a couple billion years.
Just my two cents
That's a pretty good theory
If hell will be empty oneday. What will happen to non muslims like (hindu) who worshiped idols even after getting the message of islam. Will allah put them in heaven or no more they live or just they become dust and were finished? plz rply sir plz rply sir
Hell will never be over. That's the issue. They will be therein forever and ever. Unending suffering on most extreme measures, why? Because they spent these few years on Dunya having the wrong lifestyle. And that concept itself is why I have had weak Iman for months now.
You look at how much suffering the crime caused not how long it took to comit the crime. It may cause suffering to all the family members and a general sense of dread in the community. This is still a finite amount of suffering. This man is unfortunately not very clever.
Hence proved: Ibn Tamiyya = legend.
The idea that you "sinned against an infinite god, therefore, you deserve eternal punishment" is not only morally reprehensible, it is logically unsound.
I can think of plenty of crimes that are worse than not worshipping Allah: Rape, Murder, Child abuse, etc.
The severity of the punishment is dependent on how severe the harm done by the criminal is.
If I get caught speeding, I get a ticket and have to go to court to pay a fine, but that's pretty much it. However, If I get drunk and drive, killing people in a crash, then I can get a more severe sentence such as life in prison for manslaughter.
With Allah, however, you can't do anything to hurt him. You literally cannot touch him. At worst, you could just hurt his feelings, but that's about it. And frankly, I don't care about Allah's feelings.
Here's a scenario:
In this scenario, I'm starving and need something to eat, but I don't have money to buy food, so I have to steal to feed myself.
Now, there are two people I could steal from. One is the ruler of the world with an orchard of infinite apples. The other is a beggar who only has one apple to his name.
Now, I could steal from the ruler, or I could steal from the beggar. Tell me, which crime would warrant the worse punishment?
Well, to those of you who haven't been brainwashed by religion, the answer is obvious:
Stealing from the beggar is a serious crime, while stealing from the ruler is no crime whatsoever.
Think about it, If you have a ruler of the whole world who literally has infinite apples, then what's the harm in stealing one apple? Because the apples are infinite, you have literally done no harm.
Meanwhile, stealing from the beggar is a serious offense, because you have taken everything that he has.
It's the same way with god. If I "sin" against Allah, then the punishment should be 0! Not infinity! Because Allah's infinite resources and self sufficiency cancel out any negative effects the sin would have.
So we should be judged based on what we do to other people. Not based on whether we obeyed Allah's arbitrary command to worship him or not.
Since nobody can do infinite harm to anybody, no punishment should be infinite.
Even if sinning against an infinite God deserves an imfinite punishment, there are two flaws with concept of an eternal hellfire -
1) Human mind is limited, amd a finite cause cannot produce an infinite amount of result (in this case, finite human brain making an infinitely grave decision of denying an imfinite God)
2) fact that God is infinite in all his attributes, and thus infinitely merciful who would be able to forgive an infinite crime.
Who the hell are you to decide what is the worst sin or "crime" to begin with? Know your place and shut your keyboard.
@jakethesnake
(1) "The severity of the punishment depends on how severe the harm done by the criminal is"
You come to this conclusion by coming up only with examples that cause physical harm or loss to one's possessions. Defaming/Disrespecting someone is an attack on one's honour, which is also liable to punishment even among people, and the severity of the punishment depends on whom you're defaming/disrespecting. If it's someone less powerful than you, you're saved, but if it's the King of the Land, then you're in deep trouble. And if it's the King of the Universe (and anything else that may exist) , then you're in unimaginable trouble. (But I do not know of any King who tolerates defamation/disrespect as much as the King of the Universe does.)
(2) And regarding your scenario of the apples, the retribution is not due to the quantity stolen, but due to jumping into a forbidden orchard without permission. If it's a NO TRESPASS zone, you better keep away from it. You slip into the orchard, then (even if you don't steal anything) you're liable to punishment for trespassing. You trespass a signal, you get a different ticket, and if you trespass the King's forbidden City, you get a different ticket. (Yet Allah is ready to forgive such a person if he repents before he is brought to his court for judgement).
@@noobedient9058 "Sexually molesting a woman" when seen as a crime against a finite woman, does deserve a finite punishment, but when seen as trespassing the boundaries of what the infinite God has made forbidden/sacrosanct, deserves infinite punishment.
In islamic law, when such a finite crime reaches the court of the finite world, it is met with finite punishment. But when the perpetrator does not repent within this finite world and carries it over to the infite world, then he meets finite/infinite punishment as judged by The Judge.
@@noobedient9058 Yes, drinking alcohol, eating pork etc all "deserve" infinite punishments if one carries it over to the infite world without repentance in the finite world. Any sin when seen as trivial may be given the biggest punishment, since it is not just the sin that is being considered trivial, but also the authority of the lawgiver.
However, to "deserve" a punishment is different from whether it would be actually pronounced. God may choose to forgive any sin except 'shirk' (polytheism).
Today's salafi made ibne taimiah, ibnul kaiyim, and Nasiruddin albani a prophet
Hell is forever
Impossible to explain and understand the wisdom of Allah regarding permanent torment in hell black on white? If someone asks can God create a rock that he cannot lift then this answer applies to it. But when something is clear like permanent hell for committing shirk is something I cannot understand. I do not reject it but it lowers my iman and prevents me to be a better Muslim. Also his statement for "length of crime vs severity" doesn't make sense. For the record, if Christianity happened to be true, would it be fair that we burn in hell forever for not believing in their religion?
I completely understand you
I am also a Muslim but with weak Iman because I have such questions. What's also troubling me is that, some people are just born into non Muslim family, their parents made them be non Muslims, so they kind of had no choice at all. Why would they be in hell forever?
@@Design--om2zx There are statements from companions of the Prophet that jahannam will eventually end
Abu hanifa said there is consensus on it’s eternal state and Belief outside that is kufr a good few said that, unless evidence is presented that they hadn’t seen and it’s not Contradicting to the Quran ahl al sunnah are of the position if it’s eternal nature and this is very dangerous. Where is the evidence ibn masood and Umar bin kitaab held this view
Its not infinite, only Allah is infinite
How about heaven😅
THE TRUE CHARACTER OF ALLAH IS LOVE, SO, PEOPLE WILL BURN UNTIL THEY WILL BE CONSUMED. THEY WILL TURN TO ASHES. Read the scriptures of the first prophets.
Revelation 21:4 He will wipe away every tear from their eyes.
Death will no longer exist;
grief, crying, and pain will exist no longer,
because the previous things have passed away.
"Ibni Temiyah didn't believe but he defended it" is a strange statement, unbelieveable, If I do not believe something then how can I support or defend it?
Your original three explanations were good but in the end you strayed and caused the people to get strayed. alas! I believe Ibni Temiyah never wrote a book against the Holy Quraan and Sunnsh.
Just because u show evidence for a position doesn’t mean u believe it. Is it that hard to comprehend
You can't understand the wisdom of God. It's impossible for a human being to do so..... how VERY convenient. Imagine a government saying this to the people in order to justify its punishments.
Imagine the stupidity involved in comparing an all knowing and all powerful creator with a human government made of fallible human beings
@@mrana2424 imagine the saying that God is not like us and then seeing that God has many human characteristics.... Why is God so insecure like humans that he will punish those who don't accept that there is a God... So jealous like humans that he will punish those who worship someone else...
John Wick just because He gets angry at evil and punishes people for it does not mean His anger is anything like our anger. He is never wronged and never suffers for the lies men make of Him or the crimes they do to each other-however He is wise and just, created us for a purpose and a specified end every everyone is paid back their deeds and no one is wronged.
@@mrana2424 "his anger is not like our anger?" What does it mean brother??
What does Qahhaar mean? He gets angry when ppl don't believe him...
He gets jealous for ppl believing in other gods...
John Wick He gets angry when people disbelieve Him as this is injustice and ingratitude, and He is right to-they have wronged themselves by it and they will be severely punished for it just as He increases those who who gratitude and establish justice
If allah couldn´t tolerate shirk why he would create those humans that he knew that they will do shirk?
he could tolerate it. he created us to preach against it. and god is not human you christians thats why you are dumb and filled with questions
Typical clavicle explanation, there are mnay others
No it is not
Why not?
Yes it's fair eternal hell
Light up your lighter, and put your finger on it. After less than a second you would jump around and scream in pain, forgetting about life and everything else, until pain goes away. Now imagine having to go trough something that's more than thousand times worse than that. Not to mention that it lasts for eternity.