In 15 years the amount of children who are going to speak out is going to be insane. Children aren't a commodity. Parents could easily not involve them.
It’s already started. Daddy of eight loosing custody is just the beginning. And now church mommy and her abusive bestie going to jail. There’s going to be more and more parents help accountable with more mainstream trials and as more kids come forward. It’s just pathetic any child would have to go though anything like this to begin with
It used to be that if you wanted to exploit your kids for fame, Hollywood and the music biz were the primary avenues. Well that and whatever physical abnormalities/unique properties they may have had. Now literally anyone can get famous exploiting their kids with the power of social media. It’s just hundreds and hundreds of Shirley Temples all over the internet. I fucking hate this planet.
@Dave102693 There's also a small trend of stories on reddit popping up the last couple years, too, about kids who have grown up with their parents using them on videos for TH-cam and TikTok, and how it's ruined their lives, and how a lot of them are pushing back, because they can understand what is happening and fully don't consent to it.
There was a father who used to cosplay with his daughter as Peter B Parker and May Day. They were adorable and got millions of views. I personally never saw any creepy content and he never posted anything out side of cosplay involving her. The moment he saw some fan made instagram page he deleted everything and called those people out and said he is never going to post anything with his daughter. That’s what a responsible and loving parent does.
a beauty guru named "coffee break with dani" used to share videos with her and her toddler. one video i remember was when her toddler drank her coffee as she was doing her makeup. it was really funny to me at the time (i was about 11 or 12). one day, she found a fan page of her toddler, and meticulously went through every single video of hers and edited out parts where her toddler could be seen through the youtube editor, and deleted every single instagram picture of him. i didn't understand it at the time, but now, i really commend her for that
Lmao “you guys I called the FBI and they said they searched all of the inappropriate sites for my daughter and she’s not on them” is the most wild thing I’ve ever seen someone say TO EXPLAIN WHY THEY WONT STOP EXPLOITING THEIR CHILD
Doesn't need to be on those sites, the mom is giving them away for free on TikTok so curious if someone caught with these videos on their computer is it illegal? I think it should me
@@drakkina08I think it is actually if found along with cp i think they’re considered suggestive or sexualizing photos but i don’t know if it’s a crime on its own. further questions the ethics of making the videos in the first place
Would the FBI have to refer them to the internet crimes division and then the internet crimes division refer them to the child predator internet crimes division. Which I think would give her no information but look over her tick tock. And since most in the internet crimes division especially the CP division dedicate their every waking moment to catching these people let's see the content which I ain't even seen as suggestive and to rest her take her kid away maybe. So yeah I believe she caught the FBI and consulted with them as much as I believe in a pegacorn and that I can own one.
This child is absolutely going to go no contact, and the mother will never understand why, and blame it on everyone BUT herself. I'd bet my life on it.
@@mellowlemons22 ohhhh yeah like that one sister who made content on tiktok joking about her sister going no contact. That's so gross. And straight up harassment.
my thoughts exactly.. I just hope the laws regarding content on the internet will improve in favor of the kids who can´t consent, and they´ll all sue. Just imagine reading comments like this about your baby-self while your mother encouraged it! This is so sad and heartbreaking
@@TheRibottoStudios yes that’s exactly what i was thinking of and when ruby franke was talking about her older daughter after she left the family on her little podcast or whatever. it’s sad because these people can’t consent to being in the content in the first place and still aren’t free when they leave. i hope she never has more kids
The type of content the mother is making seems to be getting progressively worse and im starting to think shes not just catering to child predators, she is one herself
exactly!! I am not a mother, but I can´t imagine making the concious decision of putting my own baby, or any child for that matter, online for preds to see... The lady is weird or absolutely shite heartless human being
I absolutely think that Jacqueline is a child predator. She knows too much about what creeps want to see. It wouldn't surprise me if she is accepting money from them to make specific videos. I hope Wren gets away soon and that they check every hard drive in the house.
For real! And I know there are even some women (few that I know so I’m not saying this is a common thing but figured I’d add in my two cents..) who don’t want to have babies because they think their kid would deserve more or they don’t wanna bring a kid into this sick world. And ironically I think those women would make the BEST mothers.
On TikTok, I reported a comment a man made on a teenage girls account saying "I'd love to SA you", and TikTok said they found zero issues with that comment or his account.
That's because all these platforms use a stupid AI to review that kind of stuff and the AI doesn't know what SA stands for. And they can't teach it what it stands for because then it'll flag comments that use SA in a context like, "I'm still recovering from SA" or "They were accused of SA" or anything like that. That's the issue with using AI instead of paying real people to sit there and review that kind of stuff. AI can't understand context and as such will either under or over correct/censor things. This isn't a defense. I think it's ridiculous we're in 2024 and we still for some reason don't advocate for just hiring real people to review that stuff but that's the reality of why unhinged crap like that is allowed to just stay on the platform. Companies don't want to pay for more employees and the few people who are there are too lazy to ever actually look into those reports.
Apparently there are people in poor countries that are training AI, and people who would love to review messages like that, as they are also reviewing traumatic videos put online to properly flag each issue, either locals or moved there for the job. There's one person who saw a video of her granddad in America who was in a car crash and they told her to finish her shift before taking time off, so had to watch him being killed over a over again because it was filmed and uploaded from multiple angles. And barely any mental health support so often get 2nd hand PTSD.
@@itsnotthatdeep6657I got banned last week because a woman asked me if males have XX or XY chromosomes! I explained it to her. It was a pleasant exchange and she thanked me for the info. My comment was reported I appealed it and won and the comment was reinstated and I’m still banned. Make it make sense 🤦🏼♀️ I’ve had my account for years and never had a problem.
something that i hate about this lady is that she defends what she's doing by saying "well there's nothing on the dark web!" like. yeah there's nothing on the ddark web bc anyone and everyone can access it by just looking something up. you wouldn't go to an illegal gambling ring if you lived right next to vegas
Also... unless she's accessing the dark web and looking for very specific things... I doubt she would ever know if there was dark web stuff.... like I could almost guarantee there's some nasty dark web stuff about her child, even with it being easily accessible....
@@alexiiconnerno children would ever want to watch videos of a toddler. Only some adults would care to see videos of a toddler for any normal reason and that's mainly women. Occasionally I see a cute video of a family doing something or a kid doing something cute but you won't see me following an account full of that shit or this extra weird shit 😂
Being a single mother doesn’t make you vulnerable on its own. Fathers often abuse their own children. It’s more about a lack of awareness or specific single mothers are targeted because of their added vulnerabilities like lack of support, poverty and isolated life.
@@jennowak3160 not every perpetrator is interviewed and that’s simply not true. The catholic priests targeted single mums did they????? In a culture where there is no divorce???? Use your fucking brain!
This isn't just exploitation, this isn't even just abuse. In my opinion, this is the virtual trafficking of your own child. I don't know how she remains so willfully, confidently ignorant to us screaming it. Does the thought not eat away at her? Does she not have a pit in her stomach? Does she not gag at the sight of the comments? How. I'm not even a mother yet and I wish I could hold my future kids so close rn. She's.. so despicable.
It takes one to know one. I have a feeling but at this point it’s so clear the mother is a predator herself. That’s the only way she could sleep at night. I’m so scared of how she treats Wren behind closed doors or what content of wren she could possibly sell online to her predator followers
@@DrJazzyBonespHdI wouldn't say it takes one to know one - we all see it. I can't speak for everyone but my knowledge comes from experience as the victim. I agree with what you're saying though.
@@DrJazzyBonespHd Yeah no I agree. It just.. doesn't register in my brain. I know they're out there and exist obviously, they're right in front of us. But what I mean I guess is, how someone could have that thought process, how that could seem okay to someone, how a *mother* could do that to her own child, her dna, the best parts of herself, if Jaqueline even has any. I don't understand how there's a demographic for this content, they're innocent. shes just a baby. god it's just so sick and I just dont understand how people like that can exist.
right like...it feels very "advertising" her child for "buyers" type behaviour...except the buyers are viewers paying her bills thru tiktok clout - it's more subtle than outright child trafficking ring & it makes it even more scary
Also she's followed by a shit ton of fan accounts of her daughter, wouldn't it make sense for those acounts to be listed as women bc they're about a little girl?
I’m so glad Chris Hanson spoke on her. Maybe it finally got enough attention. She’s putting that child in adult situations that will also have adult consequences. A four year old has no concept of what 17 million even is. She can probably only count to 10 at this point. This isn’t just child exploitation but child endangerment and neglect. People are unhinged and lack boundaries so it wouldn’t surprise me if she had a stalker or two. If they are ballsy enough to say the vile disgusting things they do on an open platform, they won’t hesitate to find you either. She’s not doing the single most important thing as a parent. And that is, she’s not PROTECTING her child. She’s willing to put her child in harms way for money. Maybe she should make HERSELF an OF and exploit her own body if the money is so important. She can consent, the child can’t. I’m a mother of a 19 son and 17 daughter. I see grown men staring at my daughter. Even when she’s in baggy sweats and hoodie. There’s been an old man who videoed and took photos of my daughter and her best friend. They reported it to the rink owner and he refused to do anything. Said the man is allowed to bc it’s a public establishment. That scares the hell out of me as a mother. Grown men walk right up to her and start talking to her with me standing right next to her in a store. She will tell them to leave her alone and they call her nasty names. I was threatened after I told them to eff off and she is a minor. She’s been followed through the mall. A 22 yr old got her snap from someone at the rink and he proceeded to try and sneak out at 1am to the local park. She woke me up immediately and showed me. Guess who showed up at the park, me and a police officer. This is a dangerous society. Parents need to protect them. Not hand them right to the wolves.
Saw a police body cam of this mentally unwell guy that was on the street of this 9ish year old girl he was stalking. She had posted some basic things on youtube for a while on her own and he became obsessed. Her parents took her offline when they realized the danger, but this man still managed to find where she lived and go there. That's without a parent orchestrating her channel for maximum views and with the parents eventually doing the right thing. Her channel also didn't have weird stuff that would blatantly appeal to predators (of course predators can latch onto even innocuous videos of kids). I wouldn't be surprised if there's already stalkers of this kid that just haven't done anything in person so far. But the longer it goes on, the more vulnerable she is :(
I mean besides the count to 10 part everything else is on point my toddler could repair simple electronics and was a borderline genius but if you asked them if Santa Claus or everything on the Internet is real they would say yes right away. Basically kids can be smart and still not understand the dangerous actions of the world.
a not so fun fact i learned during child care training is that i believe it’s 60% of trafficked children are trafficked by their biological mothers, it’s unfortunately incredibly common. this may not be straight cut trafficking, but it’s definitely in the same realm.
@@TheWeeklyWithKiki department of justice article says that in 2017 41% of child trafficking cases were perpetrated by family members! i remembered the statistic backwards, my bad, my brain mixes up numbers sometimes. idk if yt will let me link to it but it’s cops.usdoj.gov/html/dispatch/01-2024/familial_trafficking.html article is called “No One Can Hurt You Like Family: What We Know About Familial Trafficking Identification and Response” like i said i learned it in a training by a local law enforcement team for childcare training so i’m not sure where they got their information from but that article is what i found online looking it up (edits are just me clarifying stuff lol)
It is not her fault that someone made that first gross comment on an innocent video, but it IS her fault that she didn’t immediately take action when she saw the first gross comment.
a lot of her videos aren’t innocent either. she’s had wren pretend to shave her private areas and pretend to use tampons. watch repzillas videos abt the topic.
What kind of action should/can she take when there are 17+ MILLION followers? Can she turn off the video saves? Can she turn off the video likes? If so, can she turn off people's screen record on their individual phones? Sure she can turn off the comments, which she's done, but is that really logical if the majority of the comments aren't inappropriate? Does she, a random single mother from the Midwest, have the power that the platform or the authorities have to track down the IP addresses of each inappropriate commenter to ensure they're brought to justice?
As an elder millennial, I remember my parents were terrified of the internet. They told me to NEVER give my real name away on the internet. NEVER post a picture of myself. NEVER say where I live (not even the country). NEVER use a chatroom. It sickens me that some parents now offer all of this information to millions of people of their own children. And I'm not even touching the suggestive photos/captions. Where did society go so wrong? And what is it going to take for this mom specifically to feel ashamed and afraid for her child? She's abhorrent.
She won't be worried for her child until the child is actually attacked. It's awful, but until then (and possibly even later), she's going to continue brushing this off.
@@brittanymiller3157 Oh she'd love the sympathy she got from crying on social media. She might be using her kid for money now, but she'd forget all about her the second she gets to steal the spotlight.
I think we really need to point out the fact that an actual family member of Jacquelyn contacted the authorities to look into this, which led to Jacquelyn supposedly contacting the FBI to essentially clear her name. A real family member, someone who knows this woman and her child in real life, was concerned enough to bypass the police entirely and go straight to the Center for Missing and Exploited Children. As for Jacquelyn, she will not stop until she is forced to stop, likely by law enforcement considering the way things are going now. As long as the money is coming in, it doesn't matter what people say about her daughter.
"As a stay-at-home single mother" Get a job. I'm a single parent. I would never sell my child's image on the internet so i could be a stay at home parent. I have bent over backwards, sideways, upside down, and every other contorted direction to make sure i could provide for my child. I didn't have a good job when i had my kid. I worked my way up over the last decade to get a good job, and only now that I'm in my 30s is it starting to get marginally easier. But if you are so creatively bankrupt that you can't be a content creator without plastering your daughter all over the internet, encouraging creeps to gawk at a 4 year old, then you should have you internet privileges permanently revoked. Get a job that doesn't involve exploiting your child.
Oh shit, this is the person everyone complains about when they say "no one wants to work". It's momfluencers who make their kids work for free so they get paid to be stay at home parents. Disgusting
Im sorry but the bluntness of "get a job." Made me laugh a bit. But you are totally right. Any "parent" who relies on child exploitation to survive is pathetic.
A good majority of us have family photos of us as babies and toddlers in the bathtub or just wearing a diaper. Those photos are really only seen by immediate family members and during times to embarrass us as they’re shown to our future spouses. They definitely aren’t distributed in mass to random strangers in conjunction with being paid for each times it’s seen. There is a word for that, it’s called child p*rnography, and it is punishable by law. So why are there tiktok accounts with videos along that line and nothing is done about it?
This. I would do ANYTHING for my child to make sure he is taken care of, and I have done everything for him and will continue to do so. But never would I exploit him online for money and views. Her using that excuse is disgusting. Plenty of single mothers out there who work their asses off for their kids and make sure they are taken care of and don’t need to post online to do it. She’s trying to take the easy way out because she’s lazy and entitled.
I’m prone to baby fever myself (meaning a maternal or paternal desire to care for or interact with infants) but it’s too obvious that that isn’t what this is. When you have baby fever, you look up “cute/funny baby videos” or “babies meet puppies.” You don’t make fan accounts or obsess over one SPECIFIC child.
Right!? I briefly considered it was that, but then I was like nah. Fan accounts is obsessive and it doesn't matter who or why they made one, it's creepy to make fan accounts for a baby. Giving child kidnapper vibes.
Counter point, but still to your point it's not normal and unsafe Those with delusions might obsess over a specific child as a way to act like it's actually their child, but that's a whole different type of danger (like that woman who tried to steal that pregnant woman's baby )
My sis got baby fever from seeing our cousins new baby, but she didn't start trying to collect his baby pics. She just started crying about wanting a baby but not being able to get one cause she's single and broke
this is watched their videos for a long time along with many other videos with adorable sweet kids and i would send them to my mom like baby fever i stopped watching wrens videos after they got super popular and got more grotesque because it made me uncomfortable to watch! along with the comments. she's a cute kid but why are people so obsessed with her because her mom exploits her worse then any other family channel, because with family channels it's travel and there lives etc which wren her mom puts her in unnecessary and uncomfortable situations on purpose! this isn't even to say every family channel i've come across is bad either an amazing example is the brataley family the girls wanted to stop filming for that channel and they did one of their daughters wanted to be filmed less and that was respected etc it was a pretty healthy dynamic they didn't show everything or exploit things that happened like their sons passing they paid tribute to him often but at the same time they never used it for clicks! some people are bad parents and shouldn't have been parents this includes wrens mom
And for what!? Why does she do this? What possible purpose does she have to put out her child like this? I see zero innocent reasons as to why her kid need to be online.
@@informitas0117well money. it is said in the video. she makes a lot of money from tiktok. people make millions of dollars out of it. she values money more than her daughter's privacy and safety
@mortuaryerror there is actually a legitimate reason for this one. Getting glasses in prison is absolute pain apparently. If you don't have them on you when you are sentenced, you have to wait to ne seen by a doctor and wait for the prescription to get your glasses Family can't send you in your glasses.
@@KateyMoseleyIt’s sad if it’s true. Although I thought doctors don’t write the prescriptions? Optometrists does? I know in other countries it may be eye doctors that do it. But I thought that in most states it should be an optometrist that prescribe glasses? Either way, I know that in certain countries in EU, the optometrists visit the prisons and checks their eyesight and general eye health. If they need to be seen before or after, they book an appointment and then get transported to the nearest office. Depending on the type of criminal, they get guards with them.
@Lalilola1000 when it comes to new intake, I think the doctor needs to approve the optometrist visit. They do checks but that could be months after you've been put in prison.
As someone who was online at a very young age, I got groomed as a child by strangers on the Internet. I downloaded Snapchat when i was 12. Within 24 hours i had posted 4 pictures and had 18 different grown ass men send pics, vids, and voice notes. I posted 4 pictures and got harassed by 18 different men. Now imagine that on the scale of a 4 yr old with 17 million ppl. Fuckign disgusting
The worst part is that- even if Jacqueline wakes up one morning and realizes what she’s doing: the damage is done. Her baby’s photos and videos are ALL OVER the internet. That baby will never know a normal life. Jacqueline can never undo this and that is terrifying.
This is so sad to think about. I mean that poor baby is never gonna have a normal life. People will remember her name and she’ll be able to find these videos of mom and herself
She knows what she’s doing. There won’t be any “realization” on her part. Only wren realizing she was exploited for money as a child and the disgust she’ll feel in herself when she realizes what that means. It’s on the internet *forever* and wren has absolutely no say in it. God I feel so bad for that kid
When I was a kid my parents were warning me against posting my pictures on the internet. Now parents put their child on the internet themselves. We learned nothing. The rule is simple : for a PDF file, not a single picture of a child is innocent.
The problem is that our generation grew up with social media and that’s why most of us are so much more comfortable to share anything and everything here
One time years back I had a legit pedo show me "proof" that kids are knowingly sexual. The proof? A pic of a kid in a pajama shirt. They really don't see ANYTHING innocent about children. They project their perverted thoughts onto kids.
I think saying no pic of a child online is innocent is a bit much. All things in perspective. I do think this is a highly problematic and suspicious account. I also think the overwhelming majority of increased shares and bookmarks on the most questionable TikTok’s are due to thousands of people saving it and sharing it with others because they think it is disturbing and want a second opinion or want to forward it to authorities. The majority of people weirding out over kids - teens eating something “phallic” tend to be religious fundamentalists with their brains in the gutter. That why there have been recent examples of teens being suspended from public high schools for sharing a pic of their friends enjoying a popsicle at a county fair. The principal responsible for the suspension is usually a fundie that thinks everything is perverse. Point - If you think the majority of people are predators your perspective is skewed. Neglect is the most common form of CA followed by PA and the CSA/exploitation. The fact remains that the majority of crimes against women and children take place at the hands of someone they know. Not strangers. This does pose more questions about the mom in this situation. (Ruby Frankes kids most certainly were not being abused by online predators and people keeping an eye out online most certainly contacted authorities.) Predators could see your child in real life. Should they never be allowed out? Again, all things in perspective. You have to be aware of issues but not consumed by them to a detrimental degree. I find it depressing when I hear parents say they cannot trust anyone they know, they cannot post any pics of their kids online and they cannot let their kids out to play due to fear and skewed perspectives. Stranger danger was a well intentioned but misguided phenomenon that came with many problems. You can be responsible and aware of potential problems with online predation without completely shutting down.
This poor child is going to grow up one day and realize that she was essentially trafficked by her own mother. Trafficking can occur without any actual physical contact, and people either don't realize that or think it's a loophole. It's not.
The argument would be that the content is not sexual at all and at most suggestive. That is why I believe that regardless of what happens in the video she is using her child to get views thus she is exploiting her child.
@@ralfvandeven3155I have a friend who is a fetish model. She also gets content requests for “suggestive but doesn’t look sexual” material it’s still used sexually….
I can't imagine the trauma she's going to receive when the lightbulb clicks and she realizes her mother made softcore cp of her, it's going to wreck her life for several years while she gets help. I hope she gets free of her mother as soon as possible so she has space to process and heal.
i was like 12 years old wearing a tank top and jeans and there was this 30 something year old man looking at me and my mom got in his face and told him my age i was 10 in the front seat of my dads car and a man was STARING at me and my dad screamed at him, threatening the guy and showing off the crowbar he had underneath his seat, the guy ran the red light this mom knows what she’s doing. she’s purposefully doing this stuff all for money
I walked home from swimming lessons as a preteen in my bathing suit (cuz I liked it and thought it was so cute) and as soon as my mum saw me get home she immediately asked if it’d worn that on my walk home (10-15 minutes tops in a suburban neighbourhood) and when I said yes, she told me to never do that again, cuz what if someone had hurt me. It’s insane that anyone could think, that this woman isn’t aware of what’s going on. She is fully aware and using it to earn money, and it’s disgusting!
@@TwinkleTwinkleTruly This reminded me of a time where I was in one of those wave pools when I was really young. My bathing suit top came untied. There was an older man swimming next to me just watching me and smiling while I struggled to tie it again, and cover myself at the same time. Luckily, my best friend who was a bit older swam over, saw him, tied it immediately, and took me with her to tell her mom. Some people are absolutely disgusting, and I agree, she more than likely knows what's going on. If my kid friend could see the situation at hand, and immediately understand the danger, then so can she.
@@TwinkleTwinkleTruly I’m sorry you can’t wear cute things and be free in public but your Mum is right. It’s not just boys your age looking at you, it’s people’s dads and uncles. And grandpas. Men scare me. They play games. Protect yourself.
Obviously the comments speaking to Wren being at an elevated risk of assault, kidnapping, etc. from strangers are very true, but something I’m not seeing anyone talk about is what’s going to happen when Wren goes to school. All these inappropriate, embarrassing videos are easily accessible by her classmates and their parents, and the accounts already have a huge following: she’s at a really elevated risk of being bullied and excluded. Her classmates are going to find the embarrassing stuff and will probably bully her because of it. And what parent who sees what Wren’s mother posts is going to let their child hang out with her? If Jaclyn is so comfortable posting inappropriate content of her daughter’s every moment, what’s stopping her from filming other people’s children and posting that online without the parents’ consent? Why would any sane parent let their child be friends with Wren when her mother is an active threat to their child’s safety? This woman is ruining her daughter’s life! The things she posts will never disappear from the internet, even if she deletes them. This is something Wren will literally NEVER be able to escape.
@@CrashBandiscootthat’s probably even worse. in that case, the little girl will have NOBODY in her circle besides her mother & the ‘friends’ she curated for her child. I’m genuinely fearful for this kid. I hope she finds her people as she grows up & goes no contact with the predator that raised her.
@@hiphiphoogray yeah homeschooling definitely helped the abuse/neglect going on in my family stay under the radar, if not made the abuse worse bc she controlled yet another aspect of our lives...
@@hiphiphoogray oh it’s definitely worse, it’s why I think that’s what she’d choose. She just gives off narcissistic vibes and wouldn’t want the breadwinner to spend too much time away. It’s sick. And it’s also what Ruby Franke did in order to maintain her lifestyle…she isolated them all to maintain control. It’s why no one knew what was happening
Right?! Or what about a good old fashion photo album? Or saving videos on a drive for her to watch when she gets older (if she's too young to understand a flash drive there's like email drives)....I don't see the reason to share this with the public
tiktok has never even asked me to select my gender. probably many burner accounts made with secret/fake emails and no details provided to avoid being caught
I've got a friend who had a history with an abusive partner and a DVO against him. He kept breaking the DVO and was using her social media accounts to track her. She complained on social media about people giving him access to her accounts constantly. I suggested she deleted her social media or at least stop posting where she's at, when she's there's, and not post the school her kids go to. She responded that she's free to do what she wants and isn't going to let her ex control what she does. I said she's giving up her children's safety for her desire to post online and she said that nothing should take away her freedom to do what she wants.
This reminds me of a YT video I saw of a creator about my age (early 20s) who was dealing with a stalker. Instead of taking a break from making videos, she did a whole exposé on the guy (which I'm sure he ate up, as creeps like that often do) and literally announced in the video that she was at her parents' house, where he had already visited before. Of course no one should have to give up what they love because of evil people, but the way that some people value content for social media more than they value their - or their CHILDREN'S - safety is just baffling to me. Like what is so great about social media that people will literally give up their lives and safety for it, I will never know. Hope your friend turned out/will turn out safe.
a woman recently like in Pennsylvania I can't remember exactly where but she was posting her going jogging and what park. A dude literally in California saw this and went there and R worded her and killed her. It's super dangerous to post your routine and where it is exactly.
My ick comes from the fact that the moms' socials are privated, but Wren's are 100% public. Also, Wren has an older sibling. Oh, you didn't know this? Yeah, mom knows what she's doing
edit: it seems this info is false && i was confusing it for another mommy tiktoker yep apparently she has brother(s) i’m not sure i think it was 2 others but i could be wrong, their accs+ the moms is private, the worst part is that the boys accs r prolly only priv bc they don’t make as much “money” or gain enough traction as wrens acc does && it’s so sad to think it could be the case, i wouldn’t put shit past this mom anymore fr. pure vileness.
@@mementomori2809so unsurprised that the other siblings are boys. not saying boys can’t be exploited, or abused, they absolutely can. but it is telling that her mom is specifically doing this with her one female child. she’s catering to a specific audience
@@mementomori2809 Maybe I'm just too cynical but I can't believe she did this with only one child. After all, I have heard stories of p*dos targeting little boys too. I hope I am wrong though.
People think child sexual abuse is only perpetrated by people who are clinical pedophiles. A big takeaway we should have from this situation is that sexual exploitation of a child is often done for money and power too.
But she could be getting off on it herself which is why she sees it as okay. As others have pointed out, there’s a chance she _is_ a predator, like the people she is catering to.
Here is some dark knowledge that I know of. Keep in mind this isn't bashing Japan as a whole, but in Japan you can buy videos and images of children in bathing suits. Basically like a models stuff of children in... compromising positions. It used to be before there was a protest these could be bought sans... well you know. People will use EVERYTHING ANYTHING to hurt a child.
Pedophiles are technically people who are exclusively attracted to children who haven't yet reached puberty. Not all pedophiles molest children and not all child molesters are pedophiles.
I'm not sure what the heck a Lgtbt is but i also noticed those were the letters used and not lgbt... but I took that comment and the one after differently, I seen it as one calling the mother out by saying it was very sus that she was having the daughter eat a corn dog but that's the problem with little short abbreviated comments it's too easy to assume anything
@@Sunflwr that is NOT what I said nor is it what the name of that commenter is. Their name was lgtbt _is_a_sin. What in the world planet do you think I live on that I know what sus means but not lgbt???
tfw someone calling themself "lgbt is a sin" is literally blushing at a 2 year old eating a corndog. apparently lgbt is a sin but sexualizing a two year old isn't?
@keeperofthe7keys1987 No, there’s only one that is wrong. There’s nothing wrong with being LGBTQ+. Please remember your religious beliefs are subjective and only apply to you and your religion, they are not objective reality that applies to everyone. It’s 2024; it’s far past the time for people to remember that freedom of religion means people of multiple different religions and those with with no religion. Not only is MY religion accepting of LGBTQ+, it is blasphemy to accuse God of bigotry. Saying God ehates what He has designed and created is incredibly insulting to God. God is not a bigot
@@Obsidian_Iris_There are many invented "gods" perhaps yours is accepting of that. But the perfect creator 'Yah' Isn't. Everyone has their standards and freedom to choose. Well, so does he. And his standards are perfect. And his choices are not LGBT. He hates it. People have things they hate, well so does he. Can't get angry at him for having his own standards and choices. Neither the person telling you his standard or choice. It's not their fault he has a personality, and way about himself. If anything it sounds selfish when people want him to conform to their way and reject his.
Without too many disturbing details: I did my PhD about darknet websites. The people on those sites are constantly sharing all forms of content with one another, including content from "clearnet" social media. Given the popularity of Wren Eleanor's TikTok it is pretty much guaranteed that some of the users on those darknet sites would have shared her content with other users. And whether it has occured or not it is impossible for anyone, even the FBI, to scour the entire darknet and say that Wren Eleanor's content doesn't appear anywhere. So if that is what her mother is claiming then that doesn't make any sense.
Not to mention, It doesn’t matter if the content is on the darknet or not. It’s on the normal visible internet for anyone to consume with or without a tiktok account. So WTF. It doesn’t matter. The mother has a disturbing amount of attachment to the money and not to protecting her child.
I’m a sexual assault forensic examiner; I regularly see children whose parents have subjected them to underage SW. I fully agree that Jacqueline is aware and complicit, and what’s more I find it very suspicious that she knows what will cater to that demographic
After watching numerous yt channels review this woman(?) and her behavior towards her daughter, I wonder if she does have actual physical custody of Wren. That perhaps in agreement with popular opinion she's a paedophile herself, maybe a middleman?
as a csem/trafficking survivor, wren is being trafficked. at the very very least, being the most generous to jacquelyn, it's non contact csa. but deliberately making sexual content of someone who does not or cannot consent for money is literally the definition of digital sex trafficking. what i was abused by was a 'typical' old school csem ring, but this is a whole new level of scary. social media is allowing more people to independently traffic their children, out in the open where anyone can see it. i at least have the reassurance that if anyone in my life finds those pictures, they're incriminating themselves because if they're on the internet it's not on the surface web. wren doesn't have that 'luxury'. this poor girl is going to grow up (hopefully; this kind of thing kills people) harassed by predators and peers who found that content, while also feeling that sense of betrayal from the person she was supposed to trust most her entire life. she might not be able to get jobs around children because of this, even though she was the victim. it's so public, and it uses her real name. genuinely, i am devastated for her. to those saying jacquelyn cannot be trafficking wren because she isn't attracted to children: many members of the group that trafficked me were not clinical pedophiles. they just cared more about money and having power and control over someone vulnerable than they did my safety and wellbeing. not to mention that of the other kids involved. attraction is not a prerequisite for abuse.
@@S_u_n_Flower_ there are lots of bad things in this world, true. but when i told my parents (it was my mum's side of the family that let this happen), they were supportive and are helping me. i have a therapist i love. things are still difficult, but i got a pair of mittens i've had my eye on for 3 years, and good music exists, and somewhere in the world people are experiencing one of my favourite things for the first time. the world is still good. and people are still capable of being good, because i'm a person, and i'm good. a lot of what i've had to unlearn in therapy is the idea that because bad things exist, it somehow negates the good things or that being alive isn't worth it. but i find ways to be happy every day, and if i can't, i think about how my brain is hardwired to survive at all costs and that helps. was what happened to me worth it for the sake of some resilience? g-d no, but it's better than going through all that and not being resilient, you know? anyway, i hope your day is going well
@@abbieliz396 it happens more often than most people would like to think. i would consider myself lucky because it 'only' happened for 5 years before i moved countries, whereas some people i know were abused their whole lives until they could escape as adults. some people just really love money and going on power trips i guess.
When I was a little girl, an old man felt me up me in a grocery store - with my mom standing right there, in the one second she had turned her head to read a label. My parents reported it to the store management and the police that very same day once I told her what happened. They made me wear baggy, form-hiding clothes (which I hated) for a year after that - and I know that’s a problematic response, but that was my parents trying to protect me, the only way they knew how - by trying to literally hide me from the perverts. If my mother had posted me on the internet back then, and even got ONE lewd comment, I would be off the internet TO THIS DAY, at 35 years old. That’s how serious my parents were about protecting me. So it boggles my mind when I see Wren’s mom, and any other mom, parading their vulnerable kids for every sick old man to see, pretending those sick old men aren’t looking. Am I saying Wren’s mother should take her off the internet entirely? No, not necessarily. But the fact that she’s enabling these perverts to keep creeping on her child, and doing absolutely nothing to protect her, is sickening.
Not one single, sane parent who actually loves their child would be ok with getting the kinds of comments that this mother gets on those posts. She is a criminal child abuser.
My dad caught a man taking a photo of me when I was around 3 in a shop and literally threatened the guy right there and watched him delete the photo and clear his deleted to make sure he didn't keep it- people are so bloody mental to do that sort of thing in public
Please do me a big favour, comment on this video, like this video straight away, and share it if you can! its a sensitive topic and it's important it gets shared!
Another wren video! Good to know her mother and others are still using their children in horrible ways. I hope investigations are taken against them, gotta watch the vid to figure out I guess
Good point, not only is Wren being used for inappropriate reasons, this is also going to harm her future life. Nothing can wreck your reputation as a digital footprint. People in her class will know who she is and it will definitely negatively impact her. And this goes for soooo many kids online, their lives have been permanently impacted before they have the authority to make their own social media.
I seriously don't get parents putting their child online like this and then get all shocked pikachu faced when the kids get old enough and just walk out of their lives and never contact them again.
This whole thing is viscerally disgusting. My ex went to prison for possession of indecent images of children when my kid was only 1, one of his excuses was "I tried to avoid it, but it's everywhere!" Because of him I have always been hyper aware of how predators find and approach children, and have done everything in my power to protect my child. It's definitely ruined some aspects of the internet for me, but at least my kid is safe. I hope this poor girl is removed from this horrifying situation soon; I feel for her with all my heart.
What are some of those ways predators find/approach children and how can I protect the ones in my life? Speaking from your experience as a parent, but only if you’d like to
@@dnrfrank Most predators are gonna be family members, not random internet strangers. Still, keep their lives and faces off the web. Protect your kids by teaching them consent early. They need to understand that NO ONE has the right to touch them in a way they don't want. Doesn't matter if it's an aunt demanding a hug or an uncle making them sit on his lap.......your kids need to know they have the right to say NO to any physical contact that makes them uncomfortable, and that they can report anything to you. My baby brother came to my mom all upset b/c people kept touching his ears and he didn't like that. Completely harmless behavior from other kids, but it's great that he recognized his right to self autonomy, and knew it was ok to tattle on the ones making him uncomfortable. So many kids keep quiet b/c they think they have to obey all adults, or b/c they're told they'll get in trouble for telling someone. Make sure your kid knows they won't ever be in trouble for telling you things, and that they don't have to obey adults who are being bad.
Both this and that situation are cases beyond not keeping kids safe imo. Serving your child on a silver platter to predators isn't just a matter of not keeping them safe, it's actively putting them in danger.
I saw alot of comments from these men saying things like " Did you receive my message?" and "I sent you a message please respond." I can only imagine what they are asking or wanting in these messages.
predators aren't gonna go looking for wren on the dark web when her own mother is pimping her out on the most popular social media platform. prayers that this woman gets everything she deserves and more. i just hope wren can find peace and get away from that monster.
@@wddilly8488 He probably doesn't know, as the mother strikes me as the type to just say "were just posting silly videos" and he doesn't enquire much because she comes across as the type to threaten divorce and taking everything he owns for "trying to control her and their daughter"
@@wddilly8488well, she is a single mother so either the father is just out of the picture or he sends child support and doesn't interact further. If the father really was involved, either this account would not exist or the mother would not keep saying she's single
As someone who used to work in a crime bureau and had the unfortunate cubical next to the Internet Crimes Against Children unit's viewing room where they would look at the hard drives of of some of the worst people, I would strongly hesitate to post my child to any public platform (tik tok, public Instagram profile, public Facebook groups, etc).
Similar job and same. In fact I had to quit a pretty lucrative career in tech dealing with these types of Internet crimes because the amount of content then (2009) was so overwhelming and truly unsolvable/helpless that I have PTSD from it and could no longer function. It takes a certain person to do this work and I can only imagine how insurmountable it all feels now with the amount of content on the web now. Also mom is full of shit. There's literally no way to scan the entire darknet for her daughter the way she says. Nobody at the FBI would ever make such an outrageous claim.
No child at that age should be making money to support their family. If she stops showing wren she'll lose the money and be forced into a less luxurious lifestyle. It's sad to see a parent choose money their child's wellbeing
It’s especially sad because this doesn’t even have the laws that apply to child actors (like having hours and requiring to put money in an account for the child when they reach 18 I believe)
@@disneydork100I’m really hoping more states or the federal government make more strict laws on child labor laws regarding social media. It will definitely be a deterrent for family vlogs
yup mom will spend all her money that the little girl made them and leave her with what?! what is this little girl getting out of this because it’s obvious it’s not a caring mother and father. very very sad
"outfit change" as the title; referring to "down there" in titles, the mom knows exactly what she's doing. she is selling child exploitation just like the PDF files that get raided by swat and get sent to prison for life. absolutely disgusting.
I get your point about female predators when it comes to an account analytics…but also, anyone can make an account, call themselves anything and tick a box saying you’re female, and there are no real checks to that. She deluded if she actually believes 75% of her audience are female, judging by the amount of shares, saves, fan accounts etc.
@@iNabber I especially pray because I am a CSA survivor and I don't want to see more children go through that. Especially when the mother is allowing the assault or sexualization? That really fucks you up
as a survivor of csem thats been through the investigation process, unfortunately i can pretty much guarantee the fbi and dcfs are not concerned about this. they look for large distributors, legitimately explicit material, not accounts like this that can have plausible deniability. all the law sees is that no child is explicitly being abused on camera and innuendos are just speculation. there are probably smaller programs that are looking into the account, but i would be very very surprised if there is any official intervention done here
@@aatamiruono I think there is still a chance tho, because there was once this parent who got jailed for idk how many years for making suggestive content with their baby for weirdos unlisted on youtube.
Thank you so much for blurring that little baby’s face! It’s wild to me that parents find it totally acceptable to exploit their children for clout. It really needs to be illegal across the board.
I'm a content creator on tiktok. I've had comments removed when all I said was "you're a buffoon bruh" to a friend or videos taken down with fake, plastic axes or a candle with fire. This is shameful.
Damn my comment got deleted. I will say this again. That's stupid as fuck, maybe it's a dumbass AI programmed poorly or those are actual people deleting some stupid shit.
When I was sixteen, my mom watched a sixty-something year old man flirting with me in a coffee shop and did nothing. It made me feel like shit. I can't even imagine how this poor kid is going to feel in about six years when she starts to understand what's been going on.
When I was a teenager (12+) I often had adult men hit on me and try to get me to go with them... When I brought it up with my mom, she didn't understand why it upset me, called it harmless and that "they just liked me", even at times suggesting I should have gone with them "to get coffee" Nowadays she denies having ever reacted like that, but it's something that really stayed with me, and not in a good sense.
When my child was 6, we were out for dinner w family, she was wearing a cute skirt and walking around the table socializing w family. I notice that there was a single man staring at her every move. I watched this go on for long enough to be 100% confident that he was getting off on watching my child move about. It was sickening. He could not keep his eyes off of her. I walked to his table, got in his personal space and shouted loudly in his face to stop staring disgustingly at my child and if he even glanced her way law enforcement would be called. I ended up asking the manager to have him removed, as I didn't want the rest of the evening to be ruined by this freak. Everyone in the restaurant heard what I yelled to him and they all had eyes on him. Public humiliation is a wonderful tool. Never be embarrassed to speak up and out for your child. It's our job.
Can we hear his side of the story? Because it's entirely possible that the old man was just being a senior citizen and chatting without situational awareness, as many pensioners tend to do, and you chose to interpret it as "flirting."
When I was like 12 at a party with my parents, a drunk man in his 40s tried hitting on me with my mom about 15 feet away. My mom, drunk off her rocker, still had the common sense to walk over and LOUDLY tell that guy to f off or she was going to get physical. I cannot imagine a mom not defending and protecting her children from creeps, let alone encouraging it. As a mom of three little ones myself, I would catch charges defending my children from a predator with zero regrets or hesitance.
Imagine being a tiny little child, & your mommy shoves a rectangle in your face and tells you that there are people watching you that you can’t see. That is fucking terrifying.
according to the pinned comment there are 590 instances of "ultimately" in this video assuming a 44.36 ml shot glass you'd be looking at upwards of 26 liters of drinks, which would be quite dangerous even if it's just normal water
exactly! I get that some people watch baby content because it´s cute, or they wanna take outfit/activity inspiration for their own kids, but there is no way in hell the mother is not aware.... I can´t even imagine Wren´s future trauma from reading all those comments about her baby-self...
@@ramonafriesinger5652 I agree. I know people want to give her the benefit of the doubt and presume it started as an innocent page, but I don't think it was ever innocent. I think she always banked on her child attracting a scum audience and the whole chamnel was meant to digitally pimp her out. It's disgusting.
The very thought of some creepy dude or ANYONE for that matter, having a photo of my child on their wall or in their possession in any way makes me so sick to my stomach 🤢
@@unownyoutuber9049 I mean that song (Prom Queen) did go viral on tiktok for a while. Still super gross tho, even if it's not a reference to a song about eating disorders.
there was a case where parents made a youtube channel for their 6 year old daughter and a man was totally obsessed with her and would leave creepy comments like these on her videos. the parents deleted the channel immediately. the man eventually found the parents phone number and address and would harass them constantly for 6 YEARS. he eventually showed up in front of their house demanding to see the girl, 6 years later. there's footage of his arrest on youtube. very creepy.
@@rosesroundup If OP is thinking of the same guy I am, his name is Timothy Nielsen. Not a lot really creeps me out but that body cam video is disturbing.
Another creator mentioned that the mother is actually following these “fan accounts” herself. She privated her following list after people discovered it.
its honestly so concerning "drama" in the social media sphere have evolved from "this influencer have beef with that influencer" to "this influencer does criminal, immoral, abusive things and got away with it because they're rich and/or famous"
You mention how easy it is and I don't think people genuinely understand HOW easy it genuinely is. I accidentally found a whole network of creeps simply by putting in her name. And I wasn't even looking for her, but a whole other account. I went through atleast 100 accounts that had videos of kids mainly in bathing suits or eating things. It's disgusting. (Edit) I had a field day going through all the men's accounts that were public, though. I sent a bunch of their wives screenshots of their comments.
just so u know (i know im 2 months late) u can also report accounts to the FBI site directly!!! i have done it quite a few times w profiles like that edit: looked it up to see the name of where u can specifically report, there is a cyber tipline number and link on the national center for missing and exploited children website.
So, it seems like she is catering to the creeps, because those make more money….she is NOT naive and innocent!! She is making money manipulating her baby!!! SOOO DISGUSTING!!!
The fact that these creepy comments were made about her young daughter and the mom was like “eh whatever I’ll keep running an account dedicated to posting her” is enough of a sign to me that she doesn’t care, loves the attention, loves the money or whatever, and doesn’t care about her child’s well being
i feel so bad for her kid, cps or something needs to get involved immediately before something bad probably happens to that child at the hands of her mother, its happened so many times in these situations :(
CPS can't do anything. Posting non-sexual photos/videos of your child online is not illegal, and Jacqueline has not technically committed a crime. She would say that she's not required to stop doing something legal just because others are choosing to react a certain way to the videos, and sadly she'd be right. As long as CPS can find no evidence of actual abuse or evidence of exploitation that meets legal requirements for abuse, and the child is being fed, clothed, and housed, the State won't and can't do anything.
@@sovietdoge.7369then people will just go over to instagram reels or youtube shorts or make a completely new app replacing TikTok. If you want to get rid of the problem with social media you would have to delete every social media app
I wish this kid had a different family member to live with. I don’t want the kid with her mother but I also would hate for the little girl to be sent off to complete strangers. There’s no winning here for this little girl UNLESS he mother stops posting her and take everything down! But she won’t. Cause money is more important than her child.
This might seem like a weird thing to thank a person for but genuinely, thank you for reminding people and standing by the fact that not all predators are male. People often think that someone who is female cannot be a predator, which is categorically false. While the ratio of male vs female predators falls heavily toward males, that does not mean that females cannot be like that as well. So often victims of female s*xual predators are forgotten or talked over, and it's absolutely horrible. So truly, from one victim of a female childhood predator, allow me to thank you for not forgetting the fact that this is not a single gender issue.
As someone who's been abused in that way by several female perpetrators, including as a child by adults, yes, exactly. Even in this comment section a lot of people are replying to the "most of her audience is female" statement with "well they could be men lying about being female" which is probably true but erases the fact that there's definitely a ton of female predators in that audience.
I’ve noticed that with almost every male predator, there is a female predator backing them up. Using themselves (women) as bait because systematically they are not perceived as being as predatory. It’s so disturbing. So yeah… it’s definitely not a gender issue and I really worry that Wren’s dad is not innocent either
Horrifying and fascinating in equal measure. For the record, I'm not on TikTok and had never heard of Wren Eleanor OR your page previously, but the TH-cam algorithm still saw fit to put this video on my feed.
Same for me. It gave me the original videos from a year ago the other day. Glad to see a follow up that somethings being done but is a brilliant source of awareness. Been looking into further what can be done off tiktok to help with this and similar situations.
Wait… that makes sense. I think the mom was caught following the fan pages too… I’m sure she is taking requests. How despicable. She has to be a pedo herself, there’s no way all of this is just about the money.
1:13:46 privatizing the instagram honestly scares me. I think it would be giving her too much credit to say that she’s not actively cultivating the kind of audience that she has, and now she can do that with less public scrutiny
Exactly! It’s also why I worry about what happens if she gets banned from TikTok. I worry losing her income will push her to escalate the abuse to a worse form, away from prying eyes
That poor girl is gonna end up getting kidnapped by one of her creepy fans. Shes gonna need a security guard in kindergarten. This mother really is just throwing her daughter to the wolves. So sad. 😢
Thank you for speaking out and exposing this mother and her channel! I never knew about that channel , but your points are so clear and you’re so right! Thanks for bringing the awareness of why people should stop posting pictures and videos of their children!
When I see large followings I like to put it into perspective using city populations. So 17M people following Wren is the equivalent of the entire population of Istanbul PLUS 1 million additional followers. Istanbuls current population sits just over 16M. New York City, NY holds approx 18M. Los Angeles, CA only holds 12.5M. When you think about it like that…. It’s beyond sickening.
"A mother should be able to post their child on the internet." No, they should not. No one should be posting their children on the internet, predators about or not. Children can't comprehend the gravity of their pictures and information being posted for the whole world to see forever and can't consent to it. Violating your child's privacy is not okay. I'm so damn happy I grew up before internet was a big thing, I'd be so uncomfortable and pissed if my childhood pictures were even on a friends only FB account or something.
Same, I not only grew up in the early 2000s, but I also had older parents who didn't keep up with new tech at all. I didn't get my first phone until 17 lmao. And though I don't get along with my parents, they did one thing right, and that was keeping me off of social media as a kid. I remember I would get so upset as a kid if my mother would so much as hold up the video camera to record me playing with my friends, I couldn't imagine how much worse my mental health would've turned out if she'd been posting that footage for 17 MILLION people to see before I had the ability to say no. I just feel so sorry for Wren.
Whether you personally agree with her posting her kid or not is one thing but, yes, she SHOULD be able to post HER child to the internet. No, it ISNT a violation of privacy. Using YOUR logic CCTV footage, security/surveillance cameras, any movie, TV show, or advertisement with a child on it, toys/products that feature children, and having a child out I public where others can see them etc. ALL "violate" children's privacy....🫠🤡
@@TomikaKellyActing in a movie or advertisement is not the same as private moments of your life being filmed and posted for everyone to see. (Though child actors have been horrendously exploited through the entire history of the film industry and it's absolutely an issue that should also be discussed. It's just its own massive conversation and probably better off being mostly discussed separately.) As far as I'm aware, surveillance camera footage isn't just up for anyone to watch on TH-cam. Or it sure shouldn't be. And it's footage of the public, not documenting a specific person's whole private life in one place for everyone to see. (However, excessive surveillance is its own topic that concerns everyone in today's technology rich world, not just kids, and is absolutely worth talking about as well. In a separate conversation.) And lastly, kids existing in public and being momentarily perceived by their local population is in no way even remotely comparable to filming them in private and posting it for the whole world to see forever. (Edit: spelling/grammar)
@@TomikaKelly have u watched where she made her daughter eat a pickle, sprayed whipped cream on her face with her mouth open, and made her eat a foot long corn dog trust me it's fine to post ur kids sometimes also she dressed her daughter in scandalous outfits
i've found entire groups of ped0s on instagram and had to report them to the FBI. instagram and other social media accounts refuse to remove their accounts-even if they post suggestive pics of kids or roleplay as children whose photos/voices they steal. it's horrifying. even when instagram added the "this involves a child" report option, it doesn't always work, because whatever tech they use to sort through reports doesn't understand suggestive content of kids is just as bad as outright sexual content. the internet is a beautiful thing sometimes but there's an entire dark side just right there, easily accessible for children.
i guess youtube deleted my comment? idk tried to share that i've found entire groups of ped0s on instagram and had to report them to the FBI. unfortunately social media platforms don't remove predators-even when they post suggestive content of children or roleplay as children whose photos or videos they steal-because whatever tech they use to sort through reports doesn't understand suggestive content of kids is just as bad as outright sexual stuff. even when instagram added the "this involves a child" report option, it doesn't work properly. best option is to submit tips to the FBI (they have a specific page for internet predator stuff). the internet is beautiful sometimes but there's an entire dark side easily accessible to children. horrifying.
I remember a mom similar to this (clearly sexualizing their child for internet engagement) explaining her mental gymnastics of "if she wears a bikini at the beach, creeps are still going to think that! It'll happen either way!" While completely ignoring that a creep in a public setting thinking that is completely different from a creep saving a video to send to their creep friends, being able to MAKE THEIR THOUGHTS PUBLIC for the CHILD TO SEE, and with the setting being the CHILDS HOME.
Agree! It’s one thing to live your life and not stress over people looking or whatever. It’s another to post your child online, it’s like throwing her to the wolves
yeah. filming content of your child and allowing predators to save/share it freely is VERY DIFFERENT from just existing in your life in a public place where a predator might happen to be (along with lots of other people). mental gymnastics indeed
yeah, i dont know the moms name but the girls name is Danielle Cohn (idk if i spelled it right) and her mom has essentially groomed her to lie about her age
This poor baby. I’d honestly prefer that the mother was really just that ignorant, but it’s obvious that’s not the case. She knows what she’s doing 100%. There’s no sugarcoating, there’s no excuse, there’s no alternative motivation. She’s exploiting her child for money from sick, pervy adults. No mother, and I mean NO MOTHER that cared about their child more than themself would keep up a video that gets that kind of attention. No mother would continue to let her child be in danger like this purely because “I’m gonna do what I want because I can”. No mother would be okay with even letting the POSSIBILITY of their child growing up to know that HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of pedophiles have videos of her saved on their devices. She has no love left for this child, that space is already filled up with greediness. It’s hard to admit, but I highly doubt she didn’t have this baby purely for the purpose of social media attention, no matter what kind of attention that would be. She’s working with these people. That girl should never EVER be under the authority of this woman and neither should any other child or vulnerable, impressionable living being for that matter. (sorry that this is so long, but this just needed to be said).
@@Marshmo she definitely does, no doubt about it. either that, or she cares so much more about the money and attention that she convinces herself that it’s not “that bad”. both are terrible, immature, and sociopathic.
As a 43y old woman who was SA until I was 14 years old I find this absolutely horrifying. It honestly was a bit triggering to watch, but you are right.. we do need to have these conversations! We need to protect those who cannot protect themselves! This so called “mother” is a monster! The comments are especially very disturbing. Why is tik tok allowing that?? That is disgusting! I really hope this poor child gets taken from this woman sooner rather than later! What a gross world this has become…
I think these so called "mothers" should be charged with child endangerment, neglect, have the whole book thrown at them. Also, these platforms need to be charged with child trafficking. Seriously sick and disturbing 🤬🤬
Jacqueline doesn’t seem to understand that her daughter isn’t gonna want anything to do with her when she grows up, and she’s gonna be all alone with no one to blame but herself
As a schizophrenic, I HOPE Wren doesn't turn out with a mental illness incorporating paranoia, because this behavior of her mom will already make deep tracks in the kids mind while giving fertile grounds for paranoia to grow.
As a CSEM survivor and I am 20, I find it very hard and triggering to watch because I went through all this, Predatory Mother what can I say about her, I feel so bad for a innocent child my heart just breaks
Her excuse for a “digital scrapbook” is that she could’ve kept the videos on her phone or get a camera… There are other ways to have a “digital scrapbook.” Wren, when she gets older and understands what is happening, she's going 100% no contact. As a mother, it's your job to protect your children. I can also see laws being implemented in Wren’s name.
My gosh, I hope it’s a “parents must not post content like this of their children”-law that she herself spearheads when she is old enough, and not because something horrible happened. Legit just felt sick at the thought of “Wren’s Law” being championed by others for her, and not by her!
Digital scrapbook my butt. I keep a "digital scrapbook" by keeping pictures in the private gallery on my Snapchat. She's doing it publicly for a reason. What an awful woman.
how can a mother cater to pedos with their own child is absolutely blowing my mind. no child deserves their mother being a CP-dealer with a child's own daily life content. that is not a mother.
Congrats on gathering all profs and doing all this research. I had no idea about this and is so sad as a mother to see this narcisist mother not considering the danger of internet and predators. It's like some adults need to be educated about social media to understand the danger when exposing your child. So sad:(
I will never, ever forget when an old friend of mine explained to me the kind of creeps who were "fans" of a kids show her own kid enjoyed and how she was planning to be extremely careful letting her kid online when they got older. This was over 20 years ago, that kid is an adult now and my guess is they have next to nothing for an online presence compared to most their age because their mom had the foresight to realize how exposing your child to the internet could go very, VERY wrong.
@@tessfabled4115 I was thinking My Little Pony. some of the adults in that fandom are... not right in the head. Most of them are harmless and they stick to their own age group and social circles, but some are just not ok to be around. (Source: Went to the last BronyCon as an ambassador for a different convention, since I was 1 out of the 2 people on the committee that enjoys the show)
@@sailormoonnerd_ That was my thought too, but she op says over 20 years ago- I was under the impression that the 'brony' thing was a recent thing from the reboot of the show. I could be wrong though, I'm not sure how old the older mlp cartoons are or the fanbase around it.
@@birdie1648 oh shoot! You're right! I hadn't realized G4 started in 2010... Idk anything about MLP fans before G4, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were bronies from G3 and back.
i realise i say ultimately like 590 times in this - i genuinely have no idea why, adhd thing maybe
free drinking game! the only way to truly be able to digest all this honestly
I'm gonna guess that the reason you couldn't make a 4 hour video on this is because ultimately you'd be throwing up
Content creators with ADHD just make lethal drinking games. 😂
adhd is when 'ultimately'
You also refer to Jacquelyn as wren about a dozen times lol
In 15 years the amount of children who are going to speak out is going to be insane. Children aren't a commodity. Parents could easily not involve them.
It's going to be a whole specific area of study and treatment, for mental health professionals.
It’s already started. Daddy of eight loosing custody is just the beginning. And now church mommy and her abusive bestie going to jail. There’s going to be more and more parents help accountable with more mainstream trials and as more kids come forward. It’s just pathetic any child would have to go though anything like this to begin with
They already are. How do you think Ruby Frankie gotten taken down?
It used to be that if you wanted to exploit your kids for fame, Hollywood and the music biz were the primary avenues. Well that and whatever physical abnormalities/unique properties they may have had. Now literally anyone can get famous exploiting their kids with the power of social media. It’s just hundreds and hundreds of Shirley Temples all over the internet. I fucking hate this planet.
@Dave102693 There's also a small trend of stories on reddit popping up the last couple years, too, about kids who have grown up with their parents using them on videos for TH-cam and TikTok, and how it's ruined their lives, and how a lot of them are pushing back, because they can understand what is happening and fully don't consent to it.
There was a father who used to cosplay with his daughter as Peter B Parker and May Day. They were adorable and got millions of views. I personally never saw any creepy content and he never posted anything out side of cosplay involving her. The moment he saw some fan made instagram page he deleted everything and called those people out and said he is never going to post anything with his daughter. That’s what a responsible and loving parent does.
What a good father ….
Amazing dad
Now that is what a parent should do in these situations
THIS is what these “influencer parents” should be doing. Kudos to the dad for shutting that down
a beauty guru named "coffee break with dani" used to share videos with her and her toddler. one video i remember was when her toddler drank her coffee as she was doing her makeup. it was really funny to me at the time (i was about 11 or 12). one day, she found a fan page of her toddler, and meticulously went through every single video of hers and edited out parts where her toddler could be seen through the youtube editor, and deleted every single instagram picture of him. i didn't understand it at the time, but now, i really commend her for that
Lmao “you guys I called the FBI and they said they searched all of the inappropriate sites for my daughter and she’s not on them” is the most wild thing I’ve ever seen someone say TO EXPLAIN WHY THEY WONT STOP EXPLOITING THEIR CHILD
Doesn't need to be on those sites, the mom is giving them away for free on TikTok so curious if someone caught with these videos on their computer is it illegal? I think it should me
If the FBI has a list of these sites they would've already been shut down.. so WTF she says makes zero fucking sense
@@drakkina08I think it is actually if found along with cp i think they’re considered suggestive or sexualizing photos but i don’t know if it’s a crime on its own. further questions the ethics of making the videos in the first place
@@nicholasm3799 very true I agree it should be illegal.
Would the FBI have to refer them to the internet crimes division and then the internet crimes division refer them to the child predator internet crimes division. Which I think would give her no information but look over her tick tock. And since most in the internet crimes division especially the CP division dedicate their every waking moment to catching these people let's see the content which I ain't even seen as suggestive and to rest her take her kid away maybe. So yeah I believe she caught the FBI and consulted with them as much as I believe in a pegacorn and that I can own one.
Family channels, those with children, should automatically be ineligible for monetization.
Because of the male followers. Fkn men.
I feel like there might be ways around that like using other websites for payment right
This child is absolutely going to go no contact, and the mother will never understand why, and blame it on everyone BUT herself.
I'd bet my life on it.
she’s going to continue making content about her daughter even after then. it’s a shame
Commenting to help Inabber and especially for Wren.
@@mellowlemons22 ohhhh yeah like that one sister who made content on tiktok joking about her sister going no contact. That's so gross. And straight up harassment.
my thoughts exactly.. I just hope the laws regarding content on the internet will improve in favor of the kids who can´t consent, and they´ll all sue. Just imagine reading comments like this about your baby-self while your mother encouraged it! This is so sad and heartbreaking
@@TheRibottoStudios yes that’s exactly what i was thinking of and when ruby franke was talking about her older daughter after she left the family on her little podcast or whatever. it’s sad because these people can’t consent to being in the content in the first place and still aren’t free when they leave. i hope she never has more kids
The type of content the mother is making seems to be getting progressively worse and im starting to think shes not just catering to child predators, she is one herself
100% agree!
exactly!! I am not a mother, but I can´t imagine making the concious decision of putting my own baby, or any child for that matter, online for preds to see... The lady is weird or absolutely shite heartless human being
I absolutely think that Jacqueline is a child predator. She knows too much about what creeps want to see. It wouldn't surprise me if she is accepting money from them to make specific videos. I hope Wren gets away soon and that they check every hard drive in the house.
I firmly believe that this horrid "mother" assaults her child. I know it in my stomach.
@@fuzzybuzzy3159this comment sent shivers up my spine. I’m sure you’re right, but the idea someone could do something like that… I could throw up.
it's been said before, but I need to say it again: every child deserves a parent, but NOT every parent deserves a child
For real! And I know there are even some women (few that I know so I’m not saying this is a common thing but figured I’d add in my two cents..) who don’t want to have babies because they think their kid would deserve more or they don’t wanna bring a kid into this sick world. And ironically I think those women would make the BEST mothers.
@@Virgox222 I'm one of the ones who DON'T want to have children, but I would also NEVER treat them like how Wren is being treated 😭
@@strawberryskygurl333 yeah for sure!
@@strawberryskygurl333 same!
honestly... If she makes it that long. Wren is going to grow up and won't want to do what her mother says. What will her mother do then?
On TikTok, I reported a comment a man made on a teenage girls account saying "I'd love to SA you", and TikTok said they found zero issues with that comment or his account.
That's unhinged.
Why am I not surprised. Tiktok supports child exploitation istg. Such a shame.
That's because all these platforms use a stupid AI to review that kind of stuff and the AI doesn't know what SA stands for. And they can't teach it what it stands for because then it'll flag comments that use SA in a context like, "I'm still recovering from SA" or "They were accused of SA" or anything like that. That's the issue with using AI instead of paying real people to sit there and review that kind of stuff. AI can't understand context and as such will either under or over correct/censor things. This isn't a defense. I think it's ridiculous we're in 2024 and we still for some reason don't advocate for just hiring real people to review that stuff but that's the reality of why unhinged crap like that is allowed to just stay on the platform. Companies don't want to pay for more employees and the few people who are there are too lazy to ever actually look into those reports.
Apparently there are people in poor countries that are training AI, and people who would love to review messages like that, as they are also reviewing traumatic videos put online to properly flag each issue, either locals or moved there for the job.
There's one person who saw a video of her granddad in America who was in a car crash and they told her to finish her shift before taking time off, so had to watch him being killed over a over again because it was filmed and uploaded from multiple angles. And barely any mental health support so often get 2nd hand PTSD.
@@itsnotthatdeep6657I got banned last week because a woman asked me if males have XX or XY chromosomes! I explained it to her. It was a pleasant exchange and she thanked me for the info. My comment was reported I appealed it and won and the comment was reinstated and I’m still banned. Make it make sense 🤦🏼♀️ I’ve had my account for years and never had a problem.
something that i hate about this lady is that she defends what she's doing by saying "well there's nothing on the dark web!"
like. yeah there's nothing on the ddark web bc anyone and everyone can access it by just looking something up. you wouldn't go to an illegal gambling ring if you lived right next to vegas
It’s not as if there’s a dark web search engine, so she wouldn’t even know if her daughter was on there or not
PREACH!! I thought the exact same thing!!! She doesn’t need the dark web when she can do this crap without hiding& making $!!
Also... unless she's accessing the dark web and looking for very specific things... I doubt she would ever know if there was dark web stuff.... like I could almost guarantee there's some nasty dark web stuff about her child, even with it being easily accessible....
@@lindseystein9676exactly. You can't just SEARCH to go to the dark web.
You have to know how to get there.
@@JustAStumpand she claimed she called the fbi 🙄
Fan accounts for a 4 y/o is hands down one of the weirdest things I have ever witnessed
especially because i highly doubt they’re created by other children.
Yeah even if they are kids they can't be 4 year olds right? This is just very very weird overall...
@@alexiiconnerno children would ever want to watch videos of a toddler. Only some adults would care to see videos of a toddler for any normal reason and that's mainly women. Occasionally I see a cute video of a family doing something or a kid doing something cute but you won't see me following an account full of that shit or this extra weird shit 😂
Weird is not the term I'd use.
@@SusanWillful yeah, YT wouldn't appreciate it if I used the words I wanted to use
The scariest part is that she’s said that she’s a single mother, and many predators have said that they specifically look for fatherless kids.
Being a single mother doesn’t make you vulnerable on its own. Fathers often abuse their own children.
It’s more about a lack of awareness or specific single mothers are targeted because of their added vulnerabilities like lack of support, poverty and isolated life.
@@SassySlaterwomen are not as strong as men so it’s easier to take them. That is why? Haha
@@SassySlater110 pound women ain’t fighting off a 200 pound man
In every interview done with predators they state they purposely look for families without fathers because the child is more vulnerable.
@@jennowak3160 not every perpetrator is interviewed and that’s simply not true. The catholic priests targeted single mums did they????? In a culture where there is no divorce???? Use your fucking brain!
Shoutout to the dedication for blurring every single image of the child. Insane about of work and absolutely the right thing to do
This isn't just exploitation, this isn't even just abuse. In my opinion, this is the virtual trafficking of your own child. I don't know how she remains so willfully, confidently ignorant to us screaming it. Does the thought not eat away at her? Does she not have a pit in her stomach? Does she not gag at the sight of the comments? How. I'm not even a mother yet and I wish I could hold my future kids so close rn. She's.. so despicable.
It takes one to know one. I have a feeling but at this point it’s so clear the mother is a predator herself. That’s the only way she could sleep at night. I’m so scared of how she treats Wren behind closed doors or what content of wren she could possibly sell online to her predator followers
@@DrJazzyBonespHd I think so too. People forget that women and mothers can be predetors too.
@@DrJazzyBonespHdI wouldn't say it takes one to know one - we all see it. I can't speak for everyone but my knowledge comes from experience as the victim.
I agree with what you're saying though.
@@DrJazzyBonespHd Yeah no I agree. It just.. doesn't register in my brain. I know they're out there and exist obviously, they're right in front of us. But what I mean I guess is, how someone could have that thought process, how that could seem okay to someone, how a *mother* could do that to her own child, her dna, the best parts of herself, if Jaqueline even has any. I don't understand how there's a demographic for this content, they're innocent. shes just a baby. god it's just so sick and I just dont understand how people like that can exist.
right like...it feels very "advertising" her child for "buyers" type behaviour...except the buyers are viewers paying her bills thru tiktok clout - it's more subtle than outright child trafficking ring & it makes it even more scary
She’s also acting like people can’t fake their gender in profiles AND that women can’t be predators.
Also she's followed by a shit ton of fan accounts of her daughter, wouldn't it make sense for those acounts to be listed as women bc they're about a little girl?
My aunt touched my son when he was 6 and trafficked my niece when she was 15. Female predators definitely exist
I’m so glad Chris Hanson spoke on her. Maybe it finally got enough attention. She’s putting that child in adult situations that will also have adult consequences. A four year old has no concept of what 17 million even is. She can probably only count to 10 at this point. This isn’t just child exploitation but child endangerment and neglect. People are unhinged and lack boundaries so it wouldn’t surprise me if she had a stalker or two. If they are ballsy enough to say the vile disgusting things they do on an open platform, they won’t hesitate to find you either. She’s not doing the single most important thing as a parent. And that is, she’s not PROTECTING her child. She’s willing to put her child in harms way for money. Maybe she should make HERSELF an OF and exploit her own body if the money is so important. She can consent, the child can’t.
I’m a mother of a 19 son and 17 daughter. I see grown men staring at my daughter. Even when she’s in baggy sweats and hoodie. There’s been an old man who videoed and took photos of my daughter and her best friend. They reported it to the rink owner and he refused to do anything. Said the man is allowed to bc it’s a public establishment. That scares the hell out of me as a mother. Grown men walk right up to her and start talking to her with me standing right next to her in a store. She will tell them to leave her alone and they call her nasty names. I was threatened after I told them to eff off and she is a minor. She’s been followed through the mall. A 22 yr old got her snap from someone at the rink and he proceeded to try and sneak out at 1am to the local park. She woke me up immediately and showed me. Guess who showed up at the park, me and a police officer. This is a dangerous society. Parents need to protect them. Not hand them right to the wolves.
Saw a police body cam of this mentally unwell guy that was on the street of this 9ish year old girl he was stalking. She had posted some basic things on youtube for a while on her own and he became obsessed. Her parents took her offline when they realized the danger, but this man still managed to find where she lived and go there.
That's without a parent orchestrating her channel for maximum views and with the parents eventually doing the right thing. Her channel also didn't have weird stuff that would blatantly appeal to predators (of course predators can latch onto even innocuous videos of kids).
I wouldn't be surprised if there's already stalkers of this kid that just haven't done anything in person so far. But the longer it goes on, the more vulnerable she is :(
I mean besides the count to 10 part everything else is on point my toddler could repair simple electronics and was a borderline genius but if you asked them if Santa Claus or everything on the Internet is real they would say yes right away. Basically kids can be smart and still not understand the dangerous actions of the world.
@@bbyghostie1044 I remember watching this video. So scary how many children online are being exploited without their (or their parent's) knowledge.
I’m so happy your daughter woke you up so you could call the police, she probably saved another young girl ❤
I’m so glad your daughter woke you up so you could call the police, she probably saved another girl ❤
a not so fun fact i learned during child care training is that i believe it’s 60% of trafficked children are trafficked by their biological mothers, it’s unfortunately incredibly common. this may not be straight cut trafficking, but it’s definitely in the same realm.
Source?
@@TheWeeklyWithKiki department of justice article says that in 2017 41% of child trafficking cases were perpetrated by family members! i remembered the statistic backwards, my bad, my brain mixes up numbers sometimes. idk if yt will let me link to it but it’s
cops.usdoj.gov/html/dispatch/01-2024/familial_trafficking.html
article is called “No One Can Hurt You Like Family: What We Know About Familial Trafficking Identification and Response”
like i said i learned it in a training by a local law enforcement team for childcare training so i’m not sure where they got their information from but that article is what i found online looking it up (edits are just me clarifying stuff lol)
@@TheWeeklyWithKikimost trafficking happens by people the victims know. It's not the black guy you see walking around Target
@@Afmedic85 again, source?
@@TheWeeklyWithKiki www.iom.int/sites/g/files/tmzbdl486/files/our_work/DMM/MAD/Counter-trafficking%20Data%20Brief%20081217.pdf
It is not her fault that someone made that first gross comment on an innocent video, but it IS her fault that she didn’t immediately take action when she saw the first gross comment.
a lot of her videos aren’t innocent either. she’s had wren pretend to shave her private areas and pretend to use tampons. watch repzillas videos abt the topic.
I agree
What kind of action should/can she take when there are 17+ MILLION followers? Can she turn off the video saves? Can she turn off the video likes? If so, can she turn off people's screen record on their individual phones? Sure she can turn off the comments, which she's done, but is that really logical if the majority of the comments aren't inappropriate? Does she, a random single mother from the Midwest, have the power that the platform or the authorities have to track down the IP addresses of each inappropriate commenter to ensure they're brought to justice?
@@TomikaKellyshe can delete her account. Point blank period.
@@TomikaKellyAre you dense?
As an elder millennial, I remember my parents were terrified of the internet. They told me to NEVER give my real name away on the internet. NEVER post a picture of myself. NEVER say where I live (not even the country). NEVER use a chatroom. It sickens me that some parents now offer all of this information to millions of people of their own children. And I'm not even touching the suggestive photos/captions. Where did society go so wrong? And what is it going to take for this mom specifically to feel ashamed and afraid for her child? She's abhorrent.
I still tell my daughter this. I don’t even give my name. All my usernames in things isn’t my name
She won't be worried for her child until the child is actually attacked. It's awful, but until then (and possibly even later), she's going to continue brushing this off.
Facebook is what changed that culture when they started requiring ppl to use their real name
@@jords5757 don't use your real name on FB either. How tf are they gonna know?
@@brittanymiller3157 Oh she'd love the sympathy she got from crying on social media. She might be using her kid for money now, but she'd forget all about her the second she gets to steal the spotlight.
I think we really need to point out the fact that an actual family member of Jacquelyn contacted the authorities to look into this, which led to Jacquelyn supposedly contacting the FBI to essentially clear her name. A real family member, someone who knows this woman and her child in real life, was concerned enough to bypass the police entirely and go straight to the Center for Missing and Exploited Children.
As for Jacquelyn, she will not stop until she is forced to stop, likely by law enforcement considering the way things are going now. As long as the money is coming in, it doesn't matter what people say about her daughter.
Either stopped by law enforcement, or worse...
Idk but she gives off “I’m friends with police officers”
Idk but she gives…o can easily be killed at any point in time
@@kaibaiarrio1299Or WORSE? You Do mean BETTER Don't you??
That’s terrible 😢
"As a stay-at-home single mother"
Get a job. I'm a single parent. I would never sell my child's image on the internet so i could be a stay at home parent. I have bent over backwards, sideways, upside down, and every other contorted direction to make sure i could provide for my child. I didn't have a good job when i had my kid. I worked my way up over the last decade to get a good job, and only now that I'm in my 30s is it starting to get marginally easier. But if you are so creatively bankrupt that you can't be a content creator without plastering your daughter all over the internet, encouraging creeps to gawk at a 4 year old, then you should have you internet privileges permanently revoked. Get a job that doesn't involve exploiting your child.
Oh shit, this is the person everyone complains about when they say "no one wants to work". It's momfluencers who make their kids work for free so they get paid to be stay at home parents. Disgusting
this ^
Im sorry but the bluntness of "get a job." Made me laugh a bit. But you are totally right. Any "parent" who relies on child exploitation to survive is pathetic.
A good majority of us have family photos of us as babies and toddlers in the bathtub or just wearing a diaper. Those photos are really only seen by immediate family members and during times to embarrass us as they’re shown to our future spouses. They definitely aren’t distributed in mass to random strangers in conjunction with being paid for each times it’s seen. There is a word for that, it’s called child p*rnography, and it is punishable by law. So why are there tiktok accounts with videos along that line and nothing is done about it?
This. I would do ANYTHING for my child to make sure he is taken care of, and I have done everything for him and will continue to do so. But never would I exploit him online for money and views. Her using that excuse is disgusting. Plenty of single mothers out there who work their asses off for their kids and make sure they are taken care of and don’t need to post online to do it. She’s trying to take the easy way out because she’s lazy and entitled.
I’m prone to baby fever myself (meaning a maternal or paternal desire to care for or interact with infants) but it’s too obvious that that isn’t what this is. When you have baby fever, you look up “cute/funny baby videos” or “babies meet puppies.” You don’t make fan accounts or obsess over one SPECIFIC child.
Right!? I briefly considered it was that, but then I was like nah. Fan accounts is obsessive and it doesn't matter who or why they made one, it's creepy to make fan accounts for a baby. Giving child kidnapper vibes.
This this this. I love seing babies being cute as much as the next person, but that's just not what it is.
Counter point, but still to your point it's not normal and unsafe
Those with delusions might obsess over a specific child as a way to act like it's actually their child, but that's a whole different type of danger (like that woman who tried to steal that pregnant woman's baby )
My sis got baby fever from seeing our cousins new baby, but she didn't start trying to collect his baby pics. She just started crying about wanting a baby but not being able to get one cause she's single and broke
this is watched their videos for a long time along with many other videos with adorable sweet kids and i would send them to my mom like baby fever i stopped watching wrens videos after they got super popular and got more grotesque because it made me uncomfortable to watch! along with the comments. she's a cute kid but why are people so obsessed with her because her mom exploits her worse then any other family channel, because with family channels it's travel and there lives etc which wren her mom puts her in unnecessary and uncomfortable situations on purpose! this isn't even to say every family channel i've come across is bad either an amazing example is the brataley family the girls wanted to stop filming for that channel and they did one of their daughters wanted to be filmed less and that was respected etc it was a pretty healthy dynamic they didn't show everything or exploit things that happened like their sons passing they paid tribute to him often but at the same time they never used it for clicks! some people are bad parents and shouldn't have been parents this includes wrens mom
She’s not just exploiting her child to predators she IS a predator
Agreed
And for what!? Why does she do this? What possible purpose does she have to put out her child like this? I see zero innocent reasons as to why her kid need to be online.
@@informitas0117money is the reason
she's both
@@informitas0117well money. it is said in the video. she makes a lot of money from tiktok. people make millions of dollars out of it. she values money more than her daughter's privacy and safety
just noticed this, the mom has NEVER worn glasses yet wore them in the “apology” (that’s a reach) to make herself seem reliable and smart lmao
Same thing convicts on the stand do in court. Ironic.
@mortuaryerror there is actually a legitimate reason for this one. Getting glasses in prison is absolute pain apparently. If you don't have them on you when you are sentenced, you have to wait to ne seen by a doctor and wait for the prescription to get your glasses
Family can't send you in your glasses.
Wow I can't type today either! "Is an absolute pain" and "be seen by a doctor"
@@KateyMoseleyIt’s sad if it’s true. Although I thought doctors don’t write the prescriptions? Optometrists does? I know in other countries it may be eye doctors that do it. But I thought that in most states it should be an optometrist that prescribe glasses? Either way, I know that in certain countries in EU, the optometrists visit the prisons and checks their eyesight and general eye health. If they need to be seen before or after, they book an appointment and then get transported to the nearest office. Depending on the type of criminal, they get guards with them.
@Lalilola1000 when it comes to new intake, I think the doctor needs to approve the optometrist visit. They do checks but that could be months after you've been put in prison.
As someone who was online at a very young age, I got groomed as a child by strangers on the Internet. I downloaded Snapchat when i was 12. Within 24 hours i had posted 4 pictures and had 18 different grown ass men send pics, vids, and voice notes. I posted 4 pictures and got harassed by 18 different men. Now imagine that on the scale of a 4 yr old with 17 million ppl. Fuckign disgusting
The worst part is that- even if Jacqueline wakes up one morning and realizes what she’s doing: the damage is done. Her baby’s photos and videos are ALL OVER the internet. That baby will never know a normal life. Jacqueline can never undo this and that is terrifying.
This is so sad to think about. I mean that poor baby is never gonna have a normal life. People will remember her name and she’ll be able to find these videos of mom and herself
She knows what she’s doing. There won’t be any “realization” on her part. Only wren realizing she was exploited for money as a child and the disgust she’ll feel in herself when she realizes what that means. It’s on the internet *forever* and wren has absolutely no say in it. God I feel so bad for that kid
She absolutely knows.
EVERY child stars photos and videos are all over the internet.
@@TomikaKellythat's doesn't make it any less terrifying:/
When I was a kid my parents were warning me against posting my pictures on the internet. Now parents put their child on the internet themselves. We learned nothing. The rule is simple : for a PDF file, not a single picture of a child is innocent.
The problem is that our generation grew up with social media and that’s why most of us are so much more comfortable to share anything and everything here
One time years back I had a legit pedo show me "proof" that kids are knowingly sexual. The proof? A pic of a kid in a pajama shirt. They really don't see ANYTHING innocent about children. They project their perverted thoughts onto kids.
This is actually distraughting... what happened?
I think saying no pic of a child online is innocent is a bit much.
All things in perspective.
I do think this is a highly problematic and suspicious account.
I also think the overwhelming majority of increased shares and bookmarks on the most questionable TikTok’s are due to thousands of people saving it and sharing it with others because they think it is disturbing and want a second opinion or want to forward it to authorities.
The majority of people weirding out over kids - teens eating something “phallic” tend to be religious fundamentalists with their brains in the gutter. That why there have been recent examples of teens being suspended from public high schools for sharing a pic of their friends enjoying a popsicle at a county fair. The principal responsible for the suspension is usually a fundie that thinks everything is perverse.
Point -
If you think the majority of people are predators your perspective is skewed. Neglect is the most common form of CA followed by PA and the CSA/exploitation.
The fact remains that the majority of crimes against women and children take place at the hands of someone they know. Not strangers.
This does pose more questions about the mom in this situation.
(Ruby Frankes kids most certainly were not being abused by online predators and people keeping an eye out online most certainly contacted authorities.)
Predators could see your child in real life. Should they never be allowed out? Again, all things in perspective. You have to be aware of issues but not consumed by them to a detrimental degree.
I find it depressing when I hear parents say they cannot trust anyone they know, they cannot post any pics of their kids online and they cannot let their kids out to play due to fear and skewed perspectives.
Stranger danger was a well intentioned but misguided phenomenon that came with many problems.
You can be responsible and aware of potential problems with online predation without completely shutting down.
Scrolled down here just to say this. Stranger danger was the order of the day. So strange how much the pendulum has swung in the other direction.
This poor child is going to grow up one day and realize that she was essentially trafficked by her own mother. Trafficking can occur without any actual physical contact, and people either don't realize that or think it's a loophole. It's not.
The argument would be that the content is not sexual at all and at most suggestive. That is why I believe that regardless of what happens in the video she is using her child to get views thus she is exploiting her child.
@@ralfvandeven3155I have a friend who is a fetish model. She also gets content requests for “suggestive but doesn’t look sexual” material it’s still used sexually….
I can't imagine the trauma she's going to receive when the lightbulb clicks and she realizes her mother made softcore cp of her, it's going to wreck her life for several years while she gets help. I hope she gets free of her mother as soon as possible so she has space to process and heal.
Or she'll complete the cycle and become an abuser herself like Jojo Siwa
i was like 12 years old wearing a tank top and jeans and there was this 30 something year old man looking at me and my mom got in his face and told him my age
i was 10 in the front seat of my dads car and a man was STARING at me and my dad screamed at him, threatening the guy and showing off the crowbar he had underneath his seat, the guy ran the red light
this mom knows what she’s doing. she’s purposefully doing this stuff all for money
Sounds like your parents really looked after you, ad yet you grew up to be a 'zombietramp', classy! smh
I walked home from swimming lessons as a preteen in my bathing suit (cuz I liked it and thought it was so cute) and as soon as my mum saw me get home she immediately asked if it’d worn that on my walk home (10-15 minutes tops in a suburban neighbourhood) and when I said yes, she told me to never do that again, cuz what if someone had hurt me.
It’s insane that anyone could think, that this woman isn’t aware of what’s going on. She is fully aware and using it to earn money, and it’s disgusting!
@@TwinkleTwinkleTruly This reminded me of a time where I was in one of those wave pools when I was really young. My bathing suit top came untied. There was an older man swimming next to me just watching me and smiling while I struggled to tie it again, and cover myself at the same time. Luckily, my best friend who was a bit older swam over, saw him, tied it immediately, and took me with her to tell her mom. Some people are absolutely disgusting, and I agree, she more than likely knows what's going on. If my kid friend could see the situation at hand, and immediately understand the danger, then so can she.
Always men. I’m sorry :(
@@TwinkleTwinkleTruly I’m sorry you can’t wear cute things and be free in public but your Mum is right. It’s not just boys your age looking at you, it’s people’s dads and uncles. And grandpas. Men scare me. They play games. Protect yourself.
Obviously the comments speaking to Wren being at an elevated risk of assault, kidnapping, etc. from strangers are very true, but something I’m not seeing anyone talk about is what’s going to happen when Wren goes to school. All these inappropriate, embarrassing videos are easily accessible by her classmates and their parents, and the accounts already have a huge following: she’s at a really elevated risk of being bullied and excluded.
Her classmates are going to find the embarrassing stuff and will probably bully her because of it. And what parent who sees what Wren’s mother posts is going to let their child hang out with her? If Jaclyn is so comfortable posting inappropriate content of her daughter’s every moment, what’s stopping her from filming other people’s children and posting that online without the parents’ consent? Why would any sane parent let their child be friends with Wren when her mother is an active threat to their child’s safety?
This woman is ruining her daughter’s life! The things she posts will never disappear from the internet, even if she deletes them. This is something Wren will literally NEVER be able to escape.
Oh I really doubt she’d let her go to school. I predict homeschool, for sure
@@CrashBandiscootthat’s probably even worse. in that case, the little girl will have NOBODY in her circle besides her mother & the ‘friends’ she curated for her child. I’m genuinely fearful for this kid. I hope she finds her people as she grows up & goes no contact with the predator that raised her.
@@hiphiphoogray yeah homeschooling definitely helped the abuse/neglect going on in my family stay under the radar, if not made the abuse worse bc she controlled yet another aspect of our lives...
@@hiphiphoogray oh it’s definitely worse, it’s why I think that’s what she’d choose. She just gives off narcissistic vibes and wouldn’t want the breadwinner to spend too much time away. It’s sick. And it’s also what Ruby Franke did in order to maintain her lifestyle…she isolated them all to maintain control. It’s why no one knew what was happening
@@lynniewoodAbsolutely, my siblings got pulled out of school in 2020 about 6 months after I escaped and the abuse escalated to cult levels.
DIGITAL SCRAPBOOK!!!!?
If my dad posted my gymnastic videos to monetarily gain from predators I would never speak to him again.
Seriously! The only way a digital scratch book should ever exist is on a private account only family can see
@@LegallyinsaneLoL even that is a little weird tbh. Maybe send that in a group family message & not posted on a site.
There are literally apps for that, like Family Album. Bonus: you get to CHOOSE who can see your child!
Right?! Or what about a good old fashion photo album? Or saving videos on a drive for her to watch when she gets older (if she's too young to understand a flash drive there's like email drives)....I don't see the reason to share this with the public
I love her saying „my audience is 75% female!!!“ like… fake accounts are a thing?
This but also 25% of 17 million is still 4.2 million people...
tiktok has never even asked me to select my gender. probably many burner accounts made with secret/fake emails and no details provided to avoid being caught
And she’s also completely ignoring all the female child predators out there which she should know full well about because she is one herself
there are also female pedophiles soooo
Also, there are plenty of female predators out there!! Like jfc
I've got a friend who had a history with an abusive partner and a DVO against him. He kept breaking the DVO and was using her social media accounts to track her. She complained on social media about people giving him access to her accounts constantly. I suggested she deleted her social media or at least stop posting where she's at, when she's there's, and not post the school her kids go to. She responded that she's free to do what she wants and isn't going to let her ex control what she does. I said she's giving up her children's safety for her desire to post online and she said that nothing should take away her freedom to do what she wants.
This reminds me of a YT video I saw of a creator about my age (early 20s) who was dealing with a stalker. Instead of taking a break from making videos, she did a whole exposé on the guy (which I'm sure he ate up, as creeps like that often do) and literally announced in the video that she was at her parents' house, where he had already visited before. Of course no one should have to give up what they love because of evil people, but the way that some people value content for social media more than they value their - or their CHILDREN'S - safety is just baffling to me. Like what is so great about social media that people will literally give up their lives and safety for it, I will never know. Hope your friend turned out/will turn out safe.
a woman recently like in Pennsylvania I can't remember exactly where but she was posting her going jogging and what park. A dude literally in California saw this and went there and R worded her and killed her. It's super dangerous to post your routine and where it is exactly.
Yeah you're free to do what you want in this world but you are not free from consequences
My ick comes from the fact that the moms' socials are privated, but Wren's are 100% public. Also, Wren has an older sibling. Oh, you didn't know this? Yeah, mom knows what she's doing
…. well if I had a single shred of doubt before it’s gone now
she has an older sibling? wow….that is so telling :/
edit: it seems this info is false && i was confusing it for another mommy tiktoker
yep apparently she has brother(s) i’m not sure i think it was 2 others but i could be wrong, their accs+ the moms is private, the worst part is that the boys accs r prolly only priv bc they don’t make as much “money” or gain enough traction as wrens acc does && it’s so sad to think it could be the case, i wouldn’t put shit past this mom anymore fr. pure vileness.
@@mementomori2809so unsurprised that the other siblings are boys. not saying boys can’t be exploited, or abused, they absolutely can. but it is telling that her mom is specifically doing this with her one female child. she’s catering to a specific audience
@@mementomori2809 Maybe I'm just too cynical but I can't believe she did this with only one child. After all, I have heard stories of p*dos targeting little boys too.
I hope I am wrong though.
People think child sexual abuse is only perpetrated by people who are clinical pedophiles. A big takeaway we should have from this situation is that sexual exploitation of a child is often done for money and power too.
But she could be getting off on it herself which is why she sees it as okay. As others have pointed out, there’s a chance she _is_ a predator, like the people she is catering to.
Here is some dark knowledge that I know of. Keep in mind this isn't bashing Japan as a whole, but in Japan you can buy videos and images of children in bathing suits. Basically like a models stuff of children in... compromising positions. It used to be before there was a protest these could be bought sans... well you know. People will use EVERYTHING ANYTHING to hurt a child.
Pedophiles are technically people who are exclusively attracted to children who haven't yet reached puberty. Not all pedophiles molest children and not all child molesters are pedophiles.
The irony at 9:36 with the username "lgbt is a sin" and is commenting this awful stuff... what could be more sinful my dude
it’s always projection with these guys
it actually says "lgtbt" lesbians, gays, trans, bisexuals, and like tractors or smth idk
I'm not sure what the heck a Lgtbt is but i also noticed those were the letters used and not lgbt... but I took that comment and the one after differently, I seen it as one calling the mother out by saying it was very sus that she was having the daughter eat a corn dog but that's the problem with little short abbreviated comments it's too easy to assume anything
@@ShotgunStanley-AmericanCouturelgbt stands for “lesbian, gay, bisexual, trans” so, gay people and others in the community
@@Sunflwr that is NOT what I said nor is it what the name of that commenter is. Their name was
lgtbt _is_a_sin. What in the world planet do you think I live on that I know what sus means but not lgbt???
Thank you for continuing to speak up about this. It’s absolutely disgusting what this woman is doing to that poor little girl.
tfw someone calling themself "lgbt is a sin" is literally blushing at a 2 year old eating a corndog. apparently lgbt is a sin but sexualizing a two year old isn't?
Must be a catholic 😂
People usually point the fingers at others to distract from their own guilt
@keeperofthe7keys1987 No, there’s only one that is wrong. There’s nothing wrong with being LGBTQ+. Please remember your religious beliefs are subjective and only apply to you and your religion, they are not objective reality that applies to everyone. It’s 2024; it’s far past the time for people to remember that freedom of religion means people of multiple different religions and those with with no religion. Not only is MY religion accepting of LGBTQ+, it is blasphemy to accuse God of bigotry. Saying God ehates what He has designed and created is incredibly insulting to God. God is not a bigot
@@Obsidian_Iris_There are many invented "gods" perhaps yours is accepting of that. But the perfect creator 'Yah' Isn't.
Everyone has their standards and freedom to choose. Well, so does he. And his standards are perfect. And his choices are not LGBT. He hates it. People have things they hate, well so does he.
Can't get angry at him for having his own standards and choices. Neither the person telling you his standard or choice. It's not their fault he has a personality, and way about himself.
If anything it sounds selfish when people want him to conform to their way and reject his.
@@marymikel9193what makes u so sure Your god is the "real" one? they're all made up
Without too many disturbing details: I did my PhD about darknet websites. The people on those sites are constantly sharing all forms of content with one another, including content from "clearnet" social media. Given the popularity of Wren Eleanor's TikTok it is pretty much guaranteed that some of the users on those darknet sites would have shared her content with other users. And whether it has occured or not it is impossible for anyone, even the FBI, to scour the entire darknet and say that Wren Eleanor's content doesn't appear anywhere. So if that is what her mother is claiming then that doesn't make any sense.
I honestly doubt her mother actually reached out.
Not to mention,
It doesn’t matter if the content is on the darknet or not.
It’s on the normal visible internet for anyone to consume with or without a tiktok account.
So WTF. It doesn’t matter.
The mother has a disturbing amount of attachment to the money and not to protecting her child.
Yeah and the FBI has better things to do that do that@@aromaladyellie
@@aromaladyellie I have a feeling if she did actually reach out, she'd be under investigation
I was thinking the same thing! Best case scenario IF she was telling the truth is that the fbi could say they haven't come across any YET. Ridiculous
I’m a sexual assault forensic examiner; I regularly see children whose parents have subjected them to underage SW. I fully agree that Jacqueline is aware and complicit, and what’s more I find it very suspicious that she knows what will cater to that demographic
After watching numerous yt channels review this woman(?) and her behavior towards her daughter, I wonder if she does have actual physical custody of Wren. That perhaps in agreement with popular opinion she's a paedophile herself, maybe a middleman?
as a csem/trafficking survivor, wren is being trafficked. at the very very least, being the most generous to jacquelyn, it's non contact csa. but deliberately making sexual content of someone who does not or cannot consent for money is literally the definition of digital sex trafficking.
what i was abused by was a 'typical' old school csem ring, but this is a whole new level of scary. social media is allowing more people to independently traffic their children, out in the open where anyone can see it. i at least have the reassurance that if anyone in my life finds those pictures, they're incriminating themselves because if they're on the internet it's not on the surface web. wren doesn't have that 'luxury'. this poor girl is going to grow up (hopefully; this kind of thing kills people) harassed by predators and peers who found that content, while also feeling that sense of betrayal from the person she was supposed to trust most her entire life. she might not be able to get jobs around children because of this, even though she was the victim. it's so public, and it uses her real name. genuinely, i am devastated for her.
to those saying jacquelyn cannot be trafficking wren because she isn't attracted to children: many members of the group that trafficked me were not clinical pedophiles. they just cared more about money and having power and control over someone vulnerable than they did my safety and wellbeing. not to mention that of the other kids involved. attraction is not a prerequisite for abuse.
I'm so sorry for what you went through, thats horrible. Our society is truly sick
@@S_u_n_Flower_ there are lots of bad things in this world, true. but when i told my parents (it was my mum's side of the family that let this happen), they were supportive and are helping me. i have a therapist i love. things are still difficult, but i got a pair of mittens i've had my eye on for 3 years, and good music exists, and somewhere in the world people are experiencing one of my favourite things for the first time. the world is still good. and people are still capable of being good, because i'm a person, and i'm good.
a lot of what i've had to unlearn in therapy is the idea that because bad things exist, it somehow negates the good things or that being alive isn't worth it. but i find ways to be happy every day, and if i can't, i think about how my brain is hardwired to survive at all costs and that helps. was what happened to me worth it for the sake of some resilience? g-d no, but it's better than going through all that and not being resilient, you know?
anyway, i hope your day is going well
@@aaaaaaaaaa1094 i hope your day is going well and i hope you find lots and lots of things to be happy about like seeing sunsets and eating food 💚
Really? You were? That’s crazy.
@@abbieliz396 it happens more often than most people would like to think. i would consider myself lucky because it 'only' happened for 5 years before i moved countries, whereas some people i know were abused their whole lives until they could escape as adults. some people just really love money and going on power trips i guess.
When I was a little girl, an old man felt me up me in a grocery store - with my mom standing right there, in the one second she had turned her head to read a label. My parents reported it to the store management and the police that very same day once I told her what happened. They made me wear baggy, form-hiding clothes (which I hated) for a year after that - and I know that’s a problematic response, but that was my parents trying to protect me, the only way they knew how - by trying to literally hide me from the perverts.
If my mother had posted me on the internet back then, and even got ONE lewd comment, I would be off the internet TO THIS DAY, at 35 years old. That’s how serious my parents were about protecting me. So it boggles my mind when I see Wren’s mom, and any other mom, parading their vulnerable kids for every sick old man to see, pretending those sick old men aren’t looking.
Am I saying Wren’s mother should take her off the internet entirely? No, not necessarily. But the fact that she’s enabling these perverts to keep creeping on her child, and doing absolutely nothing to protect her, is sickening.
Not one single, sane parent who actually loves their child would be ok with getting the kinds of comments that this mother gets on those posts. She is a criminal child abuser.
My dad caught a man taking a photo of me when I was around 3 in a shop and literally threatened the guy right there and watched him delete the photo and clear his deleted to make sure he didn't keep it- people are so bloody mental to do that sort of thing in public
Please do me a big favour, comment on this video, like this video straight away, and share it if you can! its a sensitive topic and it's important it gets shared!
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genuinely so happy that you’re talking about this and bringing more attention to it.
well done on speaking on the topic.
this woman makes me feel nauseous.
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Another wren video! Good to know her mother and others are still using their children in horrible ways. I hope investigations are taken against them, gotta watch the vid to figure out I guess
Remember when we used to Google each other in elementary/middle school? Imagine when it’s wrens turn……..
No, I actually DON'T remember, because that's creepy and weird...🤨
@@TomikaKelly it wasn’t creepy. It was a bunch of friends in front of the same computer CONSENSUALLY Googling our own names giggling. Calm down there.
Good point, not only is Wren being used for inappropriate reasons, this is also going to harm her future life. Nothing can wreck your reputation as a digital footprint. People in her class will know who she is and it will definitely negatively impact her. And this goes for soooo many kids online, their lives have been permanently impacted before they have the authority to make their own social media.
I seriously don't get parents putting their child online like this and then get all shocked pikachu faced when the kids get old enough and just walk out of their lives and never contact them again.
Exactly I think the only time my family posts their kids are vacation and holidays never like this it's so weird
17 year old account, wow!
@@informitas0117 mine?
They don't think about that. Narcissists often can't think more than 0 steps ahead.
This whole thing is viscerally disgusting.
My ex went to prison for possession of indecent images of children when my kid was only 1, one of his excuses was "I tried to avoid it, but it's everywhere!"
Because of him I have always been hyper aware of how predators find and approach children, and have done everything in my power to protect my child.
It's definitely ruined some aspects of the internet for me, but at least my kid is safe.
I hope this poor girl is removed from this horrifying situation soon; I feel for her with all my heart.
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It is most def not everywhere wtf, that's like getting caught with two dudes bumping each other and saying "bro I'm not gay it's everywhere!"
What are some of those ways predators find/approach children and how can I protect the ones in my life? Speaking from your experience as a parent, but only if you’d like to
@@dnrfrank first of all kids don't belong in the internet, not alone (without supervision) and giving "stranger danger" tips
@@dnrfrank Most predators are gonna be family members, not random internet strangers. Still, keep their lives and faces off the web. Protect your kids by teaching them consent early. They need to understand that NO ONE has the right to touch them in a way they don't want. Doesn't matter if it's an aunt demanding a hug or an uncle making them sit on his lap.......your kids need to know they have the right to say NO to any physical contact that makes them uncomfortable, and that they can report anything to you.
My baby brother came to my mom all upset b/c people kept touching his ears and he didn't like that. Completely harmless behavior from other kids, but it's great that he recognized his right to self autonomy, and knew it was ok to tattle on the ones making him uncomfortable. So many kids keep quiet b/c they think they have to obey all adults, or b/c they're told they'll get in trouble for telling someone. Make sure your kid knows they won't ever be in trouble for telling you things, and that they don't have to obey adults who are being bad.
Having just seen the documentary “ Quiet on set” and now this… it’s so sad how many adults are continually failing to keep children safe *smh
Both this and that situation are cases beyond not keeping kids safe imo. Serving your child on a silver platter to predators isn't just a matter of not keeping them safe, it's actively putting them in danger.
I saw alot of comments from these men saying things like " Did you receive my message?" and "I sent you a message please respond." I can only imagine what they are asking or wanting in these messages.
Private photos.
Likely much worse going on behind the scenes the tiktok is just the advertisement so to speak..
predators aren't gonna go looking for wren on the dark web when her own mother is pimping her out on the most popular social media platform. prayers that this woman gets everything she deserves and more. i just hope wren can find peace and get away from that monster.
There have been some researchers who found ai sexual content of wren on porn sites. I don’t want to know what is actually on the dark web.
I’d love to know what the dad thinks of all this, if he knows the extent
@@wddilly8488 He probably doesn't know, as the mother strikes me as the type to just say "were just posting silly videos" and he doesn't enquire much because she comes across as the type to threaten divorce and taking everything he owns for "trying to control her and their daughter"
@@wddilly8488well, she is a single mother so either the father is just out of the picture or he sends child support and doesn't interact further. If the father really was involved, either this account would not exist or the mother would not keep saying she's single
@@baoziday5178 or he knows and also doesn't care because she may be having to pay him child support.
As someone who used to work in a crime bureau and had the unfortunate cubical next to the Internet Crimes Against Children unit's viewing room where they would look at the hard drives of of some of the worst people, I would strongly hesitate to post my child to any public platform (tik tok, public Instagram profile, public Facebook groups, etc).
People who do that job are literally some of the strongest people alive. I can’t even read court records of child abuse cases without wanting to puke
Similar job and same. In fact I had to quit a pretty lucrative career in tech dealing with these types of Internet crimes because the amount of content then (2009) was so overwhelming and truly unsolvable/helpless that I have PTSD from it and could no longer function. It takes a certain person to do this work and I can only imagine how insurmountable it all feels now with the amount of content on the web now. Also mom is full of shit. There's literally no way to scan the entire darknet for her daughter the way she says. Nobody at the FBI would ever make such an outrageous claim.
No child at that age should be making money to support their family. If she stops showing wren she'll lose the money and be forced into a less luxurious lifestyle. It's sad to see a parent choose money their child's wellbeing
It’s especially sad because this doesn’t even have the laws that apply to child actors (like having hours and requiring to put money in an account for the child when they reach 18 I believe)
@@disneydork100I’m really hoping more states or the federal government make more strict laws on child labor laws regarding social media. It will definitely be a deterrent for family vlogs
and if you think about it in these terms, it is unfortunately obvious that she is trafficking her own child
yup mom will spend all her money that the little girl made them and leave her with what?! what is this little girl getting out of this because it’s obvious it’s not a caring mother and father. very very sad
"outfit change" as the title; referring to "down there" in titles, the mom knows exactly what she's doing. she is selling child exploitation just like the PDF files that get raided by swat and get sent to prison for life. absolutely disgusting.
She isn't enabling them, she is inviting them and feeding them content she knows full well people are using for disgusting purposes.
I get your point about female predators when it comes to an account analytics…but also, anyone can make an account, call themselves anything and tick a box saying you’re female, and there are no real checks to that. She deluded if she actually believes 75% of her audience are female, judging by the amount of shares, saves, fan accounts etc.
Females are more likely to be pdf. Stop spreading dangerous myths that keep it a myth.
Also, women can be preadators and pdf files.
I saw the thumbnail and instantly am hoping the FBI are investigating and take Wren away from her!
we can pray
@@iNabber I especially pray because I am a CSA survivor and I don't want to see more children go through that. Especially when the mother is allowing the assault or sexualization? That really fucks you up
@@yanderehypnolightsI remember the banana and the popsicle and pickle videos making me feel actually nauseous
as a survivor of csem thats been through the investigation process, unfortunately i can pretty much guarantee the fbi and dcfs are not concerned about this. they look for large distributors, legitimately explicit material, not accounts like this that can have plausible deniability. all the law sees is that no child is explicitly being abused on camera and innuendos are just speculation. there are probably smaller programs that are looking into the account, but i would be very very surprised if there is any official intervention done here
@@aatamiruono I think there is still a chance tho, because there was once this parent who got jailed for idk how many years for making suggestive content with their baby for weirdos unlisted on youtube.
Thank you so much for blurring that little baby’s face! It’s wild to me that parents find it totally acceptable to exploit their children for clout. It really needs to be illegal across the board.
I'm a content creator on tiktok. I've had comments removed when all I said was "you're a buffoon bruh" to a friend or videos taken down with fake, plastic axes or a candle with fire. This is shameful.
a CANDLE. WITH FIRE.
are you KIDDING me.
Tiktok ai must be dumb asf@@lightsupportweapon
These platforms protect these predators for a reason. It's sick and crazy that they get to stay on over a "buffoon" comment.
Damn my comment got deleted. I will say this again.
That's stupid as fuck, maybe it's a dumbass AI programmed poorly or those are actual people deleting some stupid shit.
I had smoke in my video for a transition and it got taken down 😂. Makes you question a lot
love that you’re not blurring the commenters
When I was sixteen, my mom watched a sixty-something year old man flirting with me in a coffee shop and did nothing. It made me feel like shit. I can't even imagine how this poor kid is going to feel in about six years when she starts to understand what's been going on.
When I was a teenager (12+) I often had adult men hit on me and try to get me to go with them...
When I brought it up with my mom, she didn't understand why it upset me, called it harmless and that "they just liked me", even at times suggesting I should have gone with them "to get coffee"
Nowadays she denies having ever reacted like that, but it's something that really stayed with me, and not in a good sense.
I am so sorry. You deserved to feel protected by your mom always.
When my child was 6, we were out for dinner w family, she was wearing a cute skirt and walking around the table socializing w family. I notice that there was a single man staring at her every move. I watched this go on for long enough to be 100% confident that he was getting off on watching my child move about. It was sickening. He could not keep his eyes off of her. I walked to his table, got in his personal space and shouted loudly in his face to stop staring disgustingly at my child and if he even glanced her way law enforcement would be called.
I ended up asking the manager to have him removed, as I didn't want the rest of the evening to be ruined by this freak.
Everyone in the restaurant heard what I yelled to him and they all had eyes on him. Public humiliation is a wonderful tool.
Never be embarrassed to speak up and out for your child. It's our job.
Can we hear his side of the story? Because it's entirely possible that the old man was just being a senior citizen and chatting without situational awareness, as many pensioners tend to do, and you chose to interpret it as "flirting."
When I was like 12 at a party with my parents, a drunk man in his 40s tried hitting on me with my mom about 15 feet away. My mom, drunk off her rocker, still had the common sense to walk over and LOUDLY tell that guy to f off or she was going to get physical. I cannot imagine a mom not defending and protecting her children from creeps, let alone encouraging it. As a mom of three little ones myself, I would catch charges defending my children from a predator with zero regrets or hesitance.
Imagine being a tiny little child, & your mommy shoves a rectangle in your face and tells you that there are people watching you that you can’t see. That is fucking terrifying.
This is so horrible this mother doesn't deserve to be called mom.
Also take a shot everytime Frasier says "ultimately"
according to the pinned comment there are 590 instances of "ultimately" in this video
assuming a 44.36 ml shot glass you'd be looking at upwards of 26 liters of drinks, which would be quite dangerous even if it's just normal water
@@rigen97 Time to go out like a G--
I’d rather not die, thanks 😂
"Also take a shot everytime Frasier says "ultimately" -- All I kept thinking LOL
I cannot believe she is STILL doing it, knowing what type of people watch her daughters videos.
exactly! I get that some people watch baby content because it´s cute, or they wanna take outfit/activity inspiration for their own kids, but there is no way in hell the mother is not aware.... I can´t even imagine Wren´s future trauma from reading all those comments about her baby-self...
I think she is one of those people too! She knows what she’s doing! It’s blatant!
She caters to them so ofc she would. Her child is her meal ticket.
She always knew what people watches her vids ,she targets them with her content .
@@ramonafriesinger5652 I agree. I know people want to give her the benefit of the doubt and presume it started as an innocent page, but I don't think it was ever innocent. I think she always banked on her child attracting a scum audience and the whole chamnel was meant to digitally pimp her out. It's disgusting.
The very thought of some creepy dude or ANYONE for that matter, having a photo of my child on their wall or in their possession in any way makes me so sick to my stomach 🤢
“Blue-eyed blondie, perfect body” is a lyric from a song about eating disorders. What an odd thing to comment under a video of a toddler.
I know! I was honestly so offended that they used that lyric. I know Lily (the singer) would not approve. 😬
I think its a general enough statement that it could just be a coincidence and the guy is just a regular creep and not referencing anything.
@@unownyoutuber9049 I mean that song (Prom Queen) did go viral on tiktok for a while. Still super gross tho, even if it's not a reference to a song about eating disorders.
@@unownyoutuber9049 that’s definitely a possibility
i feel like that's honestly the smallest issue with that comment...
there was a case where parents made a youtube channel for their 6 year old daughter and a man was totally obsessed with her and would leave creepy comments like these on her videos. the parents deleted the channel immediately. the man eventually found the parents phone number and address and would harass them constantly for 6 YEARS. he eventually showed up in front of their house demanding to see the girl, 6 years later. there's footage of his arrest on youtube. very creepy.
What’s his name
@@rosesroundup If OP is thinking of the same guy I am, his name is Timothy Nielsen.
Not a lot really creeps me out but that body cam video is disturbing.
@@casuallyceltic thank you for replying, i really appreciate you:)
@@rosesroundup You are so welcome! 😊
What the faaaak....
I legit clicked on this as soon as I saw it. I love your work my dude, keep the people safe and informed!
Ahh! Thank you for hearting my comment! I've been a fan of yours for the last 3 years and love your work.
This woman knows exactly what she's doing. I pray that child is safe. Only bad thing is that CPS isn't any better.
Research that too.
Another creator mentioned that the mother is actually following these “fan accounts” herself. She privated her following list after people discovered it.
its honestly so concerning "drama" in the social media sphere have evolved from "this influencer have beef with that influencer" to "this influencer does criminal, immoral, abusive things and got away with it because they're rich and/or famous"
MASSIVE RESPECT for keeping most of names of the people who made the creepy ass comments
They all need to exposed and blocked from accessing the internet.
People lose their right to online privacy when they comment and think depraved shit about animals and children imo
You mention how easy it is and I don't think people genuinely understand HOW easy it genuinely is. I accidentally found a whole network of creeps simply by putting in her name. And I wasn't even looking for her, but a whole other account. I went through atleast 100 accounts that had videos of kids mainly in bathing suits or eating things. It's disgusting.
(Edit) I had a field day going through all the men's accounts that were public, though. I sent a bunch of their wives screenshots of their comments.
just so u know (i know im 2 months late) u can also report accounts to the FBI site directly!!! i have done it quite a few times w profiles like that
edit: looked it up to see the name of where u can specifically report, there is a cyber tipline number and link on the national center for missing and exploited children website.
So, it seems like she is catering to the creeps, because those make more money….she is NOT naive and innocent!! She is making money manipulating her baby!!! SOOO DISGUSTING!!!
she absolutely is and always has been. i pray she never has another kid to do this to
The fact that these creepy comments were made about her young daughter and the mom was like “eh whatever I’ll keep running an account dedicated to posting her” is enough of a sign to me that she doesn’t care, loves the attention, loves the money or whatever, and doesn’t care about her child’s well being
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When literally every TH-cam creator filters your kid more than you do, it's a problem. 🙄
Thanks for covering this. I was not familiar with the case, the numbers of saves vs views is such an eerie catch.
I saw someone say “You cannot warn the bear about the bears in it’s yard” and that had be stunned. What’s happening to Wren is so sad.
i feel so bad for her kid, cps or something needs to get involved immediately before something bad probably happens to that child at the hands of her mother, its happened so many times in these situations :(
Cps can’t do anything here sadly lol
The law can't do shit, the websites she posts on need to stop this themselves.
CPS can't do anything. Posting non-sexual photos/videos of your child online is not illegal, and Jacqueline has not technically committed a crime. She would say that she's not required to stop doing something legal just because others are choosing to react a certain way to the videos, and sadly she'd be right. As long as CPS can find no evidence of actual abuse or evidence of exploitation that meets legal requirements for abuse, and the child is being fed, clothed, and housed, the State won't and can't do anything.
@@sovietdoge.7369then people will just go over to instagram reels or youtube shorts or make a completely new app replacing TikTok. If you want to get rid of the problem with social media you would have to delete every social media app
I wish this kid had a different family member to live with. I don’t want the kid with her mother but I also would hate for the little girl to be sent off to complete strangers. There’s no winning here for this little girl UNLESS he mother stops posting her and take everything down! But she won’t. Cause money is more important than her child.
This might seem like a weird thing to thank a person for but genuinely, thank you for reminding people and standing by the fact that not all predators are male. People often think that someone who is female cannot be a predator, which is categorically false. While the ratio of male vs female predators falls heavily toward males, that does not mean that females cannot be like that as well. So often victims of female s*xual predators are forgotten or talked over, and it's absolutely horrible. So truly, from one victim of a female childhood predator, allow me to thank you for not forgetting the fact that this is not a single gender issue.
I’m so sorry that you’ve experienced that. Thank YOU for being vocal in order to help others! Hugs.
Cringey af of you to turn a video like this into a men’s rights activism moment
As someone who's been abused in that way by several female perpetrators, including as a child by adults, yes, exactly. Even in this comment section a lot of people are replying to the "most of her audience is female" statement with "well they could be men lying about being female" which is probably true but erases the fact that there's definitely a ton of female predators in that audience.
I’ve noticed that with almost every male predator, there is a female predator backing them up. Using themselves (women) as bait because systematically they are not perceived as being as predatory. It’s so disturbing. So yeah… it’s definitely not a gender issue and I really worry that Wren’s dad is not innocent either
Also 60% of sex trafficking is done by mothers than fathers it's sad
Horrifying and fascinating in equal measure. For the record, I'm not on TikTok and had never heard of Wren Eleanor OR your page previously, but the TH-cam algorithm still saw fit to put this video on my feed.
Same for me. It gave me the original videos from a year ago the other day. Glad to see a follow up that somethings being done but is a brilliant source of awareness. Been looking into further what can be done off tiktok to help with this and similar situations.
Same!
Absolutely vile. The oddly specific things this poor child is being told to do make me think requests are being taken.
I had the same sick feeling about it. Idk just feels like she's doing something real dark for more money behind the scenes...
Yup
Wait… that makes sense. I think the mom was caught following the fan pages too… I’m sure she is taking requests. How despicable. She has to be a pedo herself, there’s no way all of this is just about the money.
1:13:46 privatizing the instagram honestly scares me. I think it would be giving her too much credit to say that she’s not actively cultivating the kind of audience that she has, and now she can do that with less public scrutiny
Exactly! It’s also why I worry about what happens if she gets banned from TikTok. I worry losing her income will push her to escalate the abuse to a worse form, away from prying eyes
That poor girl is gonna end up getting kidnapped by one of her creepy fans. Shes gonna need a security guard in kindergarten. This mother really is just throwing her daughter to the wolves. So sad. 😢
Thank you for speaking out and exposing this mother and her channel! I never knew about that channel , but your points are so clear and you’re so right! Thanks for bringing the awareness of why people should stop posting pictures and videos of their children!
When I see large followings I like to put it into perspective using city populations. So 17M people following Wren is the equivalent of the entire population of Istanbul PLUS 1 million additional followers. Istanbuls current population sits just over 16M. New York City, NY holds approx 18M. Los Angeles, CA only holds 12.5M. When you think about it like that…. It’s beyond sickening.
"A mother should be able to post their child on the internet." No, they should not. No one should be posting their children on the internet, predators about or not. Children can't comprehend the gravity of their pictures and information being posted for the whole world to see forever and can't consent to it. Violating your child's privacy is not okay.
I'm so damn happy I grew up before internet was a big thing, I'd be so uncomfortable and pissed if my childhood pictures were even on a friends only FB account or something.
Same, I not only grew up in the early 2000s, but I also had older parents who didn't keep up with new tech at all. I didn't get my first phone until 17 lmao. And though I don't get along with my parents, they did one thing right, and that was keeping me off of social media as a kid. I remember I would get so upset as a kid if my mother would so much as hold up the video camera to record me playing with my friends, I couldn't imagine how much worse my mental health would've turned out if she'd been posting that footage for 17 MILLION people to see before I had the ability to say no. I just feel so sorry for Wren.
Whether you personally agree with her posting her kid or not is one thing but, yes, she SHOULD be able to post HER child to the internet. No, it ISNT a violation of privacy. Using YOUR logic CCTV footage, security/surveillance cameras, any movie, TV show, or advertisement with a child on it, toys/products that feature children, and having a child out I public where others can see them etc. ALL "violate" children's privacy....🫠🤡
@@TomikaKellyActing in a movie or advertisement is not the same as private moments of your life being filmed and posted for everyone to see. (Though child actors have been horrendously exploited through the entire history of the film industry and it's absolutely an issue that should also be discussed. It's just its own massive conversation and probably better off being mostly discussed separately.)
As far as I'm aware, surveillance camera footage isn't just up for anyone to watch on TH-cam. Or it sure shouldn't be. And it's footage of the public, not documenting a specific person's whole private life in one place for everyone to see. (However, excessive surveillance is its own topic that concerns everyone in today's technology rich world, not just kids, and is absolutely worth talking about as well. In a separate conversation.)
And lastly, kids existing in public and being momentarily perceived by their local population is in no way even remotely comparable to filming them in private and posting it for the whole world to see forever.
(Edit: spelling/grammar)
@@TomikaKelly have u watched where she made her daughter eat a pickle, sprayed whipped cream on her face with her mouth open, and made her eat a foot long corn dog trust me it's fine to post ur kids sometimes also she dressed her daughter in scandalous outfits
Stranger danger was almost religiously beat into us all as kids. Nowadays it seems to be stranger=fans and fame
Crazy that we live in a world where pedophiles can freely comment disgusting and horrific things on the internet without repercussions
i've found entire groups of ped0s on instagram and had to report them to the FBI. instagram and other social media accounts refuse to remove their accounts-even if they post suggestive pics of kids or roleplay as children whose photos/voices they steal. it's horrifying. even when instagram added the "this involves a child" report option, it doesn't always work, because whatever tech they use to sort through reports doesn't understand suggestive content of kids is just as bad as outright sexual content. the internet is a beautiful thing sometimes but there's an entire dark side just right there, easily accessible for children.
i guess youtube deleted my comment? idk
tried to share that i've found entire groups of ped0s on instagram and had to report them to the FBI. unfortunately social media platforms don't remove predators-even when they post suggestive content of children or roleplay as children whose photos or videos they steal-because whatever tech they use to sort through reports doesn't understand suggestive content of kids is just as bad as outright sexual stuff. even when instagram added the "this involves a child" report option, it doesn't work properly. best option is to submit tips to the FBI (they have a specific page for internet predator stuff). the internet is beautiful sometimes but there's an entire dark side easily accessible to children. horrifying.
Hang on a minute…… if she’s a ‘single’ stay at home Mum how was ‘Daddy’ stealing her milk?
Wrong, just plain wrong.
I remember a mom similar to this (clearly sexualizing their child for internet engagement) explaining her mental gymnastics of "if she wears a bikini at the beach, creeps are still going to think that! It'll happen either way!" While completely ignoring that a creep in a public setting thinking that is completely different from a creep saving a video to send to their creep friends, being able to MAKE THEIR THOUGHTS PUBLIC for the CHILD TO SEE, and with the setting being the CHILDS HOME.
Agree! It’s one thing to live your life and not stress over people looking or whatever. It’s another to post your child online, it’s like throwing her to the wolves
yeah. filming content of your child and allowing predators to save/share it freely is VERY DIFFERENT from just existing in your life in a public place where a predator might happen to be (along with lots of other people). mental gymnastics indeed
yeah, i dont know the moms name but the girls name is Danielle Cohn (idk if i spelled it right) and her mom has essentially groomed her to lie about her age
This poor baby. I’d honestly prefer that the mother was really just that ignorant, but it’s obvious that’s not the case. She knows what she’s doing 100%. There’s no sugarcoating, there’s no excuse, there’s no alternative motivation. She’s exploiting her child for money from sick, pervy adults. No mother, and I mean NO MOTHER that cared about their child more than themself would keep up a video that gets that kind of attention. No mother would continue to let her child be in danger like this purely because “I’m gonna do what I want because I can”. No mother would be okay with even letting the POSSIBILITY of their child growing up to know that HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of pedophiles have videos of her saved on their devices. She has no love left for this child, that space is already filled up with greediness. It’s hard to admit, but I highly doubt she didn’t have this baby purely for the purpose of social media attention, no matter what kind of attention that would be. She’s working with these people. That girl should never EVER be under the authority of this woman and neither should any other child or vulnerable, impressionable living being for that matter. (sorry that this is so long, but this just needed to be said).
Wren isn't her only child...
Knowing that Wren has an other brother/brothers just makes me think she knows what she's doing even more
@@eclecticraeen such disgusting behavior. i didn’t think my heart could break anymore than it already has
@@Marshmo she definitely does, no doubt about it. either that, or she cares so much more about the money and attention that she convinces herself that it’s not “that bad”. both are terrible, immature, and sociopathic.
As a 43y old woman who was SA until I was 14 years old I find this absolutely horrifying. It honestly was a bit triggering to watch, but you are right.. we do need to have these conversations! We need to protect those who cannot protect themselves! This so called “mother” is a monster! The comments are especially very disturbing. Why is tik tok allowing that?? That is disgusting!
I really hope this poor child gets taken from this woman sooner rather than later!
What a gross world this has become…
I think these so called "mothers" should be charged with child endangerment, neglect, have the whole book thrown at them. Also, these platforms need to be charged with child trafficking. Seriously sick and disturbing 🤬🤬
I’m terrified that as Wren gets older and viewership drops Mom will consider having another kid to keep money coming in.
holy
shit....
yikes i didn’t even think of this
Jacqueline doesn’t seem to understand that her daughter isn’t gonna want anything to do with her when she grows up, and she’s gonna be all alone with no one to blame but herself
As a schizophrenic, I HOPE Wren doesn't turn out with a mental illness incorporating paranoia, because this behavior of her mom will already make deep tracks in the kids mind while giving fertile grounds for paranoia to grow.
Oh she's definitely going to have anxiety
As a CSEM survivor and I am 20, I find it very hard and triggering to watch because I went through all this, Predatory Mother what can I say about her, I feel so bad for a innocent child my heart just breaks
Her excuse for a “digital scrapbook” is that she could’ve kept the videos on her phone or get a camera…
There are other ways to have a “digital scrapbook.”
Wren, when she gets older and understands what is happening, she's going 100% no contact. As a mother, it's your job to protect your children.
I can also see laws being implemented in Wren’s name.
Fr OR even if she wants them on tiktok. On a private account with only her/family.
My gosh, I hope it’s a “parents must not post content like this of their children”-law that she herself spearheads when she is old enough, and not because something horrible happened. Legit just felt sick at the thought of “Wren’s Law” being championed by others for her, and not by her!
Digital scrapbook my butt. I keep a "digital scrapbook" by keeping pictures in the private gallery on my Snapchat. She's doing it publicly for a reason. What an awful woman.
how can a mother cater to pedos with their own child is absolutely blowing my mind. no child deserves their mother being a CP-dealer with a child's own daily life content. that is not a mother.
I’ve seen this Law and Order SVU episode. Children should not be internet celebrities, adults should not be ‘fans’ of children.
wait really? what episode?
Congrats on gathering all profs and doing all this research. I had no idea about this and is so sad as a mother to see this narcisist mother not considering the danger of internet and predators. It's like some adults need to be educated about social media to understand the danger when exposing your child. So sad:(
I will never, ever forget when an old friend of mine explained to me the kind of creeps who were "fans" of a kids show her own kid enjoyed and how she was planning to be extremely careful letting her kid online when they got older. This was over 20 years ago, that kid is an adult now and my guess is they have next to nothing for an online presence compared to most their age because their mom had the foresight to realize how exposing your child to the internet could go very, VERY wrong.
What show was it?
@@AngelaRoseRymanGiven the time period I'm guessing Tiny Toons?
@@tessfabled4115 I was thinking My Little Pony. some of the adults in that fandom are... not right in the head. Most of them are harmless and they stick to their own age group and social circles, but some are just not ok to be around. (Source: Went to the last BronyCon as an ambassador for a different convention, since I was 1 out of the 2 people on the committee that enjoys the show)
@@sailormoonnerd_ That was my thought too, but she op says over 20 years ago- I was under the impression that the 'brony' thing was a recent thing from the reboot of the show. I could be wrong though, I'm not sure how old the older mlp cartoons are or the fanbase around it.
@@birdie1648 oh shoot! You're right! I hadn't realized G4 started in 2010... Idk anything about MLP fans before G4, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were bronies from G3 and back.