HUGE BUFFS AND NERFS in World of Tanks!

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ต.ค. 2024

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  • @casuscnactus4864
    @casuscnactus4864 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +102

    So the Foch will be the new OP flavour of the month TD and a few months later it will be nerfed below the previous level.

    • @siuprizas
      @siuprizas 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      sad but truth

    • @derrickstorm6976
      @derrickstorm6976 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Foch's problem was always penetration, side armor, and the rangefinder weakspot on top, and they didn't touch any of those

  • @alexxu3004
    @alexxu3004 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +212

    what about foch 155.....

    • @deadarashi6462
      @deadarashi6462 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

      what about the FV215b

    • @ricsisallai8786
      @ricsisallai8786 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      Sadly wot is filled with forgotten tanks

    • @Belarius0404
      @Belarius0404 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Collector tank don't get buff ....

    • @alexxu3004
      @alexxu3004 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@Belarius0404 155did get buff last time foch b was buffed

    • @bertonderdeeltweser_g
      @bertonderdeeltweser_g 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Belarius0404 thats stupid reward tNks get ok nurfs ore buffs

  • @Rin-hw9jr
    @Rin-hw9jr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +98

    I'm all for the Minotauro getting a cupola weakpoint. But they better not touch it's turret. It'll become useless since the gun is terrible as it is.

    • @is7_155
      @is7_155 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      0.41 😂 stupid sniper

    • @troywalker8078
      @troywalker8078 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      The Minotauro can't pen a wet paper bag.

    • @Luxuriaa176
      @Luxuriaa176 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      preach brother!

    • @ogmechsftw
      @ogmechsftw 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      just buff the accuracy, at least to the same level as the tier 9's final accuracy. it's so bad

    • @roberthak3695
      @roberthak3695 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cry more

  • @shapeshifter7676
    @shapeshifter7676 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    Wow I'm surprised they're not nerfing the Italian meds

    • @universalgamer8010
      @universalgamer8010 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      They hate Italians, i thought it was obvious... Rhino sucks, Prog line sucks... Mano will probably be over nerfed to the point it's terrible. Remember WG nerfed the Prog 65 (it was never even remotely OP) because it was popular... DURING A BATTLEPASS... Like there's no other tree in the game that gets abused like the Italians.

    • @menfaaanda
      @menfaaanda 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They're not popular enough now

    • @soldier22881
      @soldier22881 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      dont worry they always nerf anything f2p if its popular, but conviniently dont touch any of the pay to win overpowered premium tanks that cost real money.

    • @YamianGodlike
      @YamianGodlike 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@universalgamer8010 And the most popular T10 medium at that time was still Leopard 1...

  • @Omegawerewolfx
    @Omegawerewolfx 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    Steel and Bronze were dominated by S. Conqs in Onslaught but WG should not base changes on a game mode that sucks

    • @Dreaddeamon
      @Dreaddeamon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      dude supercounqers were annoying to fight against, they could sit in front of you and you would not be able to dmg them and they would just tear you apart

    • @agostinho6550
      @agostinho6550 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@Dreaddeamon u r not very good then, or playing with the wrong tank...

    • @Dreaddeamon
      @Dreaddeamon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      dude every single time im playing my maus i end up against one super conquer and no matter how i angle they can pen me with their bullshit high pen. and i never claimed i was good. i just find it annoying how one tank out shadows so many others and barely have a weakspot to begin with.@@agostinho6550

    • @CrazyPanda688
      @CrazyPanda688 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@Dreaddeamonyou are terrible then because a super conq can be penned in the mantlet lol

    • @Memsandro
      @Memsandro 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I stayed in iron because of S Conq spam. Them and damn 60TPs. I had neither of these two and yeah.. had to flank or snipe them, head on or on a ridge line, they're imossible to beat ,unless you're an unicum

  • @kjellannn
    @kjellannn 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    Where tf is the british wheeled buffs???

    • @xvphoenixvii5146
      @xvphoenixvii5146 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      they don't need them?

    • @nephalos666
      @nephalos666 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      They dont need them. They're not tanks. They're clown cars and they are fine where they are at.
      French clown cars should have wheel and mobility mechanics to match the British wheelies.

    • @soldier22881
      @soldier22881 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      until artillery is removed, all wheeled vehicles should get buffs. and keep getting buffs until you can yolo into the enemy team and take out the camping artillery that has been ruining this game for years

    • @johnr5001
      @johnr5001 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@soldier22881Arty is annoying af but not as bad as they used to be. Blame WG for making arty campaigns mandatory. Only reason I play arty.

    • @soldier22881
      @soldier22881 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@johnr5001 The tanks from the first front are not worth it, the second front arty missions can be skipped if you save your mission skip orders.
      Alot of people i talked to agreed removing arty missions all together would be nice change to the campaigns

  • @vladdracul2379
    @vladdracul2379 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    6:00
    QB, that's quite literally all tier 9-10s in the game. My PzVII gets wrecked frontally no matter what I do. I'm really curious as to how QB thinks no one pens the lower plate consistently on the PzVII when people shoot mine at insane angles and tear through it.

    • @High_Octane_YT
      @High_Octane_YT 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Yeah, when I play my Pz7, everyone just spams gold through the lower plate, and if I'm hull down, people can pen my mantle even with standard rounds. If I sidescrape standard rounds melt the "armpit" of the tank. The panzer 7 feels terrible right now, I honestly think it needs an armor buff, not an accuracy buff.

    • @ryandao3047
      @ryandao3047 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Although his masterclass gameplay to angle the front through the corner, if u act like the tank has none and reverse back after every shot, some enemy will have less chances to penetrate us. Also use it’s huge HP pool to trade. All tanks are penetrable at some point.

    • @Chillr3nd
      @Chillr3nd 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Im having like 58%wr with my pz7. I like that tank and im happy with these buffs.

    • @High_Octane_YT
      @High_Octane_YT 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Good for you, but it is still undeniably worse than ALMOST every other t10 heavy@@Chillr3nd

    • @Chillr3nd
      @Chillr3nd 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@High_Octane_YT yeah i agree with you. You can do well with it but you will usually pay from every mistake you make.
      The thing is, that if you dont wiggle pz7 all the time you will get penetrated again and again and again. And that not fun haha..it looks stupid aswell.

  • @leeedsonetwo
    @leeedsonetwo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Always they nerf a tank when I get one, this time the Super Conq

    • @soldier22881
      @soldier22881 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      youre not aloud to have fun if your free to play, thats why they nerf tech tree tanks while keeping the most broken overpowered premiums untouched. they support pay to win. thats why i stopped playing this game.

  • @everydaybacksbroken2886
    @everydaybacksbroken2886 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    Remember the 3.7 inch howitzer on cruiser II at tier 3? It was removed, as it is impossible to fight back when encountered. 1 vs 1 you'll just get one shot every time. The most OP low tier noob bully.

    • @magscorch7706
      @magscorch7706 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      Lmao i miss those days of the T18 TD as well

    • @danielfeinour9611
      @danielfeinour9611 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Ohhhh, I remember that derp very well. It was one of my favorite tier 3 tanks back in the day. I once shot a full health Chi-Nu, back when the Japanese line was still new, and killed him. He was cussing me out in the chat until I told him the tank had a tier 5 derp gun. Miss that thing so much!

    • @menfaaanda
      @menfaaanda 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A 3 man T18 platoon was what you would love to run into around the corner xD@@magscorch7706

    • @menfaaanda
      @menfaaanda 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It would be a bit less OP these days after the t3 tanks got massive HP buffs and are around 410HP for a lt. You can always roll out in the Valentine AT for the memories though..xD I have 11 kill shots in a row with that thing :O

    • @tudormese
      @tudormese 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@menfaaanda The Alecto has the same gun, more usable.

  • @nickarooroo6397
    @nickarooroo6397 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    21:20 Exactly! Make the “weak points” weak points. Not the whole turret face into a giant weak point. Will destroy the entire purpose of the vehicle.

  • @1255XL
    @1255XL 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Finally they are buffing a tier 10 tank which I have instead of nerfing it just after I finished the grind.

    • @darkarcanum1814
      @darkarcanum1814 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Grinding for them last week and didn't get there...no wondering if the Conquerer and Minatauro are worth it.

    • @11stupididiots11
      @11stupididiots11 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Happend to with maus e5 progetto and obj 268😂

    • @1255XL
      @1255XL 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@11stupididiots11 obj 268v4 as well.. Almost finished with the 263 but the fact you rarely see v4's anymore says enough..

    • @samcheng6488
      @samcheng6488 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If who always chase meta to grind, then this is the reason why WG alway nerfing what someone who are grinding...
      When I gring amx50b, WG buff it.
      When I gring rino, WG buff it.
      When I gring stb, WG buff sta & type 61.

    • @azizsetyawan3038
      @azizsetyawan3038 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well. In this case the super conqu would be slightly worst than type 71. Because the worst DPM and doesn't have any new mechanic to keep up
      In the end the type 71 will kick super conqu for the king of hulldown (tech tree side)

  • @Jean_1999
    @Jean_1999 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    I mean the Foch 50 B becomes that monster again it was back in like 2015. I remember the Foch 155 was a hell of a monster back then. Since the game has the Foch 155 and the Foch 50 B and now with the Foch 50 B being buffed doesn't make that the Foch 155 kinda obsolete? I think we'll see how this is gonna turn out

    • @SuperdreadnoughtLiebe
      @SuperdreadnoughtLiebe 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Foch 155 has been obsolete since before Foch B was introduced

    • @CrazyPanda688
      @CrazyPanda688 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Foch B has never been a monster
      It’s a ridiculous gun on the worst platform in the game

    • @TROLGUY999
      @TROLGUY999 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CrazyPanda688 worst platform in the game? not at all lol good mobility and decent armor vs lower tiers

    • @Freakless93
      @Freakless93 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bring back foch 155!

    • @MrJeepinZeke
      @MrJeepinZeke 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Foch 155 is a different style of damage delivery and can deal with throwing a round out and pulling back with the ability of pumping all 3 if the opportunity arises. It’s odd too with its 5 sec intro clip. More of a high risk high reward kinda thing. Oh, and always take a HE mag for the lol’z.

  • @nson__
    @nson__ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    Super Conqueror will get the Progetto 65 treatment. They will nerf it at least once more probably after this.

    • @thijsjansen7600
      @thijsjansen7600 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      As they should. The S. conq. has been on top for too long. Time to give some other tanks some love. That is what balancing is about. Making tanks less popular to get other tanks played more.

    • @nson__
      @nson__ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@thijsjansen7600What I meant is that they'll go overboard with balancing.. Progetto 65 has been destroyed, and in my opinion, nerfing it was a mistake.

    • @thijsjansen7600
      @thijsjansen7600 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sillysausage4549 you dont understand balancing. You do not want a game full of super conqs. So when you notice it is played to much, you have to nerf it so other tanks get popular again. It is basic game management.
      Cut the bullshit with your argument that regular players cant get any fun. Every player can get the obj 279. You do not even have to grind the shit out of the game.

    • @thijsjansen7600
      @thijsjansen7600 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sillysausage4549 and if you still think the chief is OP, you might want to check if you even know how to play the game. The chief is only good when playing hulldown. On flat ground pretty much every tank can trade with the chief.

    • @seboksandor1672
      @seboksandor1672 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@thijsjansen7600 u talk bullsit man. Casual regular player like me (1408 wn8) never ever reach the obj 279(e). The requirement is incredibly difficult for a casual player.

  • @skorpion7132
    @skorpion7132 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wish (and hope this is that) that they gave nation-based specialties or specifics.
    Germany was always known for their over-engineering, but accurate and 'effective' weapons. This could translate into high HP, big bulky armor and precise and powerful guns with good handling, however their modules could be weak(er) and their tanks are heavy and thus comparably more sluggish.
    The Pz VII increase in what the gun will pump out (and from what distance) could go a long way to make such a thing.
    On a personal note, accuracy inthis can't be improved enough to offset the ATTROCIOUS RNG and ballistics in this game.

  • @sdfopsdmsdofjmp7863
    @sdfopsdmsdofjmp7863 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    The superconqueror nerfs seem pretty okay. I guess they were a little bit harsh on the reload time, but it'll probably be fine. The tier 9 conqueror will be absolutely insane in comparison now, though.

    • @inkozebadigbadig37
      @inkozebadigbadig37 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      i dont know man its kinda one of the few tech tree tanks everyone can get thats really really good the nerf isnt huge yes but its kinda weird to nerf superconq before all the event/campaign/blackmarket/etc. vics

    • @Ca11mero
      @Ca11mero 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      As usual most people don't understand that DPM isn't as important as you might think. A lot of times you will be reloaded for a few seconds before shooting the next shot, making this nerf irrelevant (in that scenario).

    • @imma5761
      @imma5761 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Unnecessary nerfs to S conq.
      Never found problem playing against it.
      Its strenght is dpm and very good but not op turret.
      It has lack luster mobility so it cant rush and its not broken on ridge.

    • @TROLGUY999
      @TROLGUY999 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      tier 9 is already much more fun

    • @Ca11mero
      @Ca11mero 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@imma5761How exactly do you play against it? In let's say a tier 9 heavy on the heavy side of westfield.

  • @edism3
    @edism3 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    QB you forgot one small detail in the comparison of PZ and VK, 560 alpha vs 750 :)

    • @roberthak3695
      @roberthak3695 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Small? They could have easily buffed the Pz 7 by giving it huge dpm and some increased mobility. No armor changes. And the tank would be good, because increased dpm would allow it to go in, use the armor that it has and do something. But currently it cant trade, it cant use the armor...

  • @XtreeM_FaiL
    @XtreeM_FaiL 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    WG HQ:
    -How do balance the game?
    -More P2W.
    -Great. Let's do that.

  • @jeannedarc9815
    @jeannedarc9815 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    What about my fv215b?

    • @endahummukharis2838
      @endahummukharis2838 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They should increase dpm if s.conq is nerfed

    • @Rinface_Enjoyer
      @Rinface_Enjoyer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That tank is forgotten about sadly, truly tragic

  • @Azermaniac
    @Azermaniac 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lesta games doing way better job of rebalancing tanks than Wargaming
    They buffed M48Patton, BatChat, Concept5, MVY, Type71 is different better etc.
    They nerfed crazy tanks like ChitoSP etc.
    They are doing what is required
    They even buffed some collection tanks and it made them playable not op
    PS: However I don’t like how they effed up the HoRi line made them sniper type TD

  • @mathewg5884
    @mathewg5884 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I can't get myself to play random battles anymore. It just feels like endless frustration. WG shouldn't be messing with the tanks gun. If I aim for 3 seconds and reload for 15 seconds the shot should hit the target when fully aimed because if it misses that makes the dpm half. I'd rather have every tank accurate when fully aimed than a select few accurate randomly. Buff every tanks accuracy. FRUSTRATION MAKES PLAYERS WANT TO LEAVE.

  • @misstati2308
    @misstati2308 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    i still dont understand why they gave the panzer 7 those side weak points, the mantlet ia okei to have them but the side like why? its supposed to be a sidescraper with a rear mounted turret ;_;

    • @durachoks
      @durachoks 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you have to peak front first, not sidescrape

  • @Marco-cg7fb
    @Marco-cg7fb 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What about making volumetric shells like warthunder, to remove the pixel gaps being issues…

  • @patrickbourne3819
    @patrickbourne3819 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I play so badly in the s.conqueror already, really need to watch more on how to play it well

    • @durachoks
      @durachoks 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      S.Conq do well positionally, take a good position/hull down and kinda just sit there

    • @patrickbourne3819
      @patrickbourne3819 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@durachoks so my problem with that is that hull down positions tend to be opposite enemy hull down positions and there are a lot of tanks that are good at that so I end up spending most of the battle trading non pen shots with other hevys.
      Hull down can also be very boring

  • @stolfygaming
    @stolfygaming 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    honestly they all seem pretty fair. The foch B might be a little overbuffed but i hope some love comes to the foch 155

  • @mole3171
    @mole3171 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Changing the mm to plus 1 minus 1 would be the fairest change they could make.

    • @rooreeves
      @rooreeves 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It would be very boring.

    • @edvinstromberg9107
      @edvinstromberg9107 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      nah don't agree. Have had some great games as bottom tier. I like the extra challange.

    • @soldier22881
      @soldier22881 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      nerfing overpowered pay to win premiums would be an even better. and the best change would be to remove the camping overpowered artillery from the game and handing artillery players a permanent ban from the game

  • @viridescent7748
    @viridescent7748 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    curious, i play wot blitz and in blits, the mino's lower plate is just as strong as the turret at ~260mm. the turret is weaker at 240mm, but it is still mostly frontally invulnerable, unless you have a lot of pen. the weakness is low dpm, sus mobility, and weak sides. a lot of less-skilled players use the mino in blitz because it's great for winning but not for high performance.

  • @No_12c.
    @No_12c. 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    So every game of tier 10 in the matchmaker is going to have 6 60TP and 1 S.C instead of 3 60TP and 1 S.C nice one WG.

  • @Panzergraf
    @Panzergraf 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Pz 7 really needs those pen buffs (and the fix to the mantlet), currently it has only a few mm more standard and gold pen than the 128mm on the E100, while having drastically lower DPM. Not worth the extra 30 alpha damage.
    I don't think the Pz 7 will become meta, but it will become more playable, and closer to average. Currently it's one of the worst tier 10 heavies, and its global statistics are "carried" by the fact that unlike the E100 and Maus, it's not likely to be anyone's first tier 10.

  • @bundesmememinister1586
    @bundesmememinister1586 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Sure WG, that AMX is fine, but the Waffletraktor E100 is "way too op".
    Still waiting for WG giving it back, the Grille was no real compensation

    • @skorpion7132
      @skorpion7132 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah, I still don't understand how people can still say WTF E100 is still OP... Looks at whats in the game these days...

  • @fili0938
    @fili0938 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    QB it's very important to note that player win rate difference is not a stat that tells the whole story.
    Panzer 7 is very forgiving so bad players do alright with it which means the average stats won't be too bad either. Good tanks that are difficult to play like AMX 50B have absolutely dreadful player win rate difference but a high 3 mark requirement because bad players suck in them and good players can dominate but there are a lot more bad players than good players.
    Essentially player winrate difference can be used to measure the skill floor and 3 mark requirements can be used to measure the skill ceiling.

    • @roberthak3695
      @roberthak3695 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So, that other S***** streamer who is taking a lot of time and still can't 3 mark the manticore is not that good of the 3-marker? Because according to his chat he is a 3marker god. lol

    • @fili0938
      @fili0938 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@roberthak3695 I don't know who you're referring to

  • @deadzeddicious3684
    @deadzeddicious3684 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    MINOTAURO DEAD. Its already has bad alpha, pen and dispersion on its gun. The only thing it excells at is playing hulldown. If it can just get penned in the face by 330+ heat, its not a nerf, its going to be a waste of fucking metal.

  • @SilentJaguar
    @SilentJaguar 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    8:35 the Foch doesnt really survive so improving it's firing accuracy would make it last a bit longer.......hopefully

  • @Dpixtion
    @Dpixtion 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When will these. Buff/Nerf take place?

  • @shevaughnlewin9981
    @shevaughnlewin9981 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    Proof that wargaming doesn’t know how to balance. They should’ve just nerfed the s.conq’s hatch armor and add some smaller weakspots there are too many heavies that can just sit there and think they’re gods.

    • @tajj7
      @tajj7 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Super Conq can be penned in the hatch and the mantlet, standard rounds can pen it in the mantlet, most heat rounds will trouble the cupola unless its very well angled. Also if you get slight side angles into the side turret most tier 10 guns will pen there as well. Plus the Super Conq is slow, huge and has a giant weak lower plate, with flat huge side so as soon as it is not perfectly hull down it gets very easily penned and people were penning it's turret with premium rounds anyway. So hardly like it can sit there like a 'god'. As QB showed its hardly a problematic tank, its not winning that much and it's not boosting players win rate like say pre-nerf Chieftain did or 279e still does. As a comparison the Chieftain's turret is so so much better than the Super Conqs, the small cupola vanishes with like 5 degrees of gun depression, it also much stronger side turret, even if you are at like 30-40 degrees to it's turret side you are still talking 300+ protection, whereas the same angle into the side of Super Conq turret and you need about 230-240 to go through, so overall I don't think the SC needed much change. It is also a low alpha heavy, so it relies on it's turret to keep peeking to actually do damage, it can't just peek and trade like a 60tp.

    • @robinkhn2547
      @robinkhn2547 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Nah. The Super Conquerers hatch armor is already vulnerable to heat and the roof armor can be overmatched by large caliber guns. The S. Conq. is fine as it is, maybe just nerf the reload by half a second.

    • @MsAres355
      @MsAres355 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No every Tier 10 HT have Heat. Ist 7, Mause

    • @sorinancuta3934
      @sorinancuta3934 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If they would do that s conq will end up just like kran;)

    • @Memsandro
      @Memsandro 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What we desperately need is a massive nerf to the 60TP, that thing should've never been born. Ideally BZ-176 too.

  • @sylvercloud6631
    @sylvercloud6631 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The only meaningful nerf the SConq is here receiving is the HP loss. The DPM loss is meaningless, the issue with the SConq is that it can sit hulldown as long as it wants and farm its opponents, it will just take a few more seconds to do it. Now a T110E5 will have a chance to win a 1v1 against a SConq by going all-in at close range to flank it. Yey, awesome!
    What they should have done is something similar to the Chieftain, lower the easy ammo pen to 311. This way the SConq might be forced to expose itself more to be able to hit weaker areas.

  • @usssouthdakota5541
    @usssouthdakota5541 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Panzer VII buff sounds epic ngl

    • @hebrewhammer4086
      @hebrewhammer4086 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      They arnt enough. Its still gonna be a very meh tank at best

    • @commander5379
      @commander5379 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      changes to vk k and pz7. buff turret so its ndot an autopen. keep lower plate 280 so it has a novel feature (peak with lower plate), reduce side armour so it cant sidescrape and give mg weakspot or something like they used to do

    • @davidwaxter66
      @davidwaxter66 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They buffed the irrelevant part of the tank. What about the turret ring weak points. The tank is suppose to sidescrape but can’t do any of that. The gun was already fine it was just its armor. They buff the wrong stuff on it

    • @usssouthdakota5541
      @usssouthdakota5541 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@hebrewhammer4086 the Panzer VII is actually a great tank as long as you hide the sides, if you wiggle the tank and don't stay standing the turret weakpoints are hard to hit and with the extra pen it is much more f2p than the other German super heavies. It's one of the hardest to play but the fun you get from it is crazy awesome.

    • @hebrewhammer4086
      @hebrewhammer4086 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@usssouthdakota5541 I disagree, I own every tank in the game, and while it is not the worst tank, it is by no means great. But to each there own.

  • @Bmuelr
    @Bmuelr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hope this isn't a dumb question, but if they're making changes to the Foch B can they make similar changes to the Foch 155?

    • @warco3
      @warco3 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      WG hasn't touched collector's vehicles or ones replaced in the tech tree like ever

  • @randallreardon4628
    @randallreardon4628 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The only buff the foch needed was a pen buff to match the strv pen.

  • @Yantsika
    @Yantsika 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You said that the foch will be gme destroying but if you almost oneshot someone whit the fv tds that is ok (and not p2w) ...

  • @matufujiwara7493
    @matufujiwara7493 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    am i an idiot or why can't wg rebalancing team find a middleground. they either buff the tank to the heaven or nerf the tank to the hell. like ffs, just change one statistic slightly, put it into a game and see how it affects the wr. and if needed change some statistic again slightly until you get it into good ground.

  • @Loyidus
    @Loyidus 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Where is the Type 5 buff? Last year WG said they would improve the Type 5.

  • @amzarnacht6710
    @amzarnacht6710 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    15:12 - What's sad is that, when looking at that stat list, the top performers are all tanks that 80%+ of the player base have utterly no chance of getting their hands on.

  • @xvphoenixvii5146
    @xvphoenixvii5146 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    somehow still forgetting about the Type 5 Heavy somehow, one of the biggest turds in the game getting 0 love, who woulda thunk

  • @RSk8122
    @RSk8122 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    113 needs a buff

    • @Belarius0404
      @Belarius0404 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Never gonna get one : wg drop every tank they didn't want to deal with into collector ...

    • @MsAres355
      @MsAres355 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hetzer. Wg nerfed recently

    • @Belarius0404
      @Belarius0404 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MsAres355 but its a nerf not a buff why it happened ? Because player still played it mostly because its a broken tank . The 113 being not that popular won't get buffed any time soon .

    • @danielfeinour9611
      @danielfeinour9611 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Honestly, it just needs a penetration buff. Everything else about the tank is pretty decent.

    • @MsAres355
      @MsAres355 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Belarius0404 People talk Wg dont touch tanks that are collector which is not true

  • @TheAdaoo7
    @TheAdaoo7 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "i never find myself wanting lower aim time and higher accuracy on my close quarter heavies"
    Really? Mate cq heavy battles have devolved into "whos gonna land the RNG pen first on each others tiny cupolas with our shitty accuracy" having 0.33 dispersion on the panzer 7 is huge

  • @AetherYes
    @AetherYes 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sure they nerf my favorite Progetto 65 and now they nerf my Conqueror time to nerf their premium tanks once again ರ⁠╭⁠╮⁠ರ

  • @ole993
    @ole993 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The panzer 7 needed a armor buff. Lower frontal plate needed 20-30mm extra and the turret needed 50mm. Thats it.

  • @walterryan9741
    @walterryan9741 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Buffing...Nerfing...Rebalancing everything except RNG SMH

  • @Giocio
    @Giocio 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As someone who's been a long supporter of your stuff. I'm gonna partially disagree with your view on the Mino. You're more experienced than I am but you're forgetting that the gun handling on the Mino, is not all that great.
    If anything they should have nerfed the armor, created a weak point and buffed it's gun handling so it can't just sit in front of people. Because if they just end up messing it's armor up, it screws the tanks main point. An armored TD.

  • @CrazyPanda688
    @CrazyPanda688 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Mino nerfs I disagree with because they haven’t addressed the problem with that tank which is the terrible gun handling. It needed the armour because it can’t move otherwise the gun is just bad
    So now it has weakspots, but will still have to sit still to actually be accurate, so it will just get farmed by absolutely everything with superior gun handling
    RIP Minotauro

    • @22250md
      @22250md 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Drama queen

    • @CrazyPanda688
      @CrazyPanda688 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@22250md your mom

    • @22250md
      @22250md 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CrazyPanda688 how old are you? If I hurt your feelings little
      Boy then don’t make it worse for yourself by saying even more silly things.

    • @CrazyPanda688
      @CrazyPanda688 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@22250md your mom

    • @22250md
      @22250md 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CrazyPanda688 your dad

  • @marcusmaximus5011
    @marcusmaximus5011 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What are we talking about?
    The most broken tank in the history of this game is EBR tier X and those lowlifes (WG) does not even think to put it to the ground. So many times i hit ebr with huge calliber gun HE shell and it's armor just absorb it. I've seen many battles where it was imposlible to hit it and when you do - no damage done. Speed and profile of that "tank" is out of this world. I salute nerfing minotauro but S.Conq should not be nerfed!

  • @sirrianusdagovax
    @sirrianusdagovax 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    WG should buff the FV215b armour and match it with S.Conq side armour, and also remove the side weakpoint.

  • @subaquaticsleepwalker7240
    @subaquaticsleepwalker7240 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like how when the QB says heavy tanks it sounds like hippie tanks, my imagination runs wild.

  • @isrraelhdhernandez4759
    @isrraelhdhernandez4759 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just say F***** the nerfs, live the tanks like they are and F***** the balancing.

    • @CrazyPanda688
      @CrazyPanda688 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree
      But the Foch B and PZ7 did need buffs

  • @Vormehk
    @Vormehk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It looks like the buffs and nerfs for the Minotauro are driving it to get in closer and brawl with the higher turn rate and engine power, rather than being a static boulder on top of a ridge.

  • @treypelham5515
    @treypelham5515 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Grille 15 needs a buff too!! Especially the camo rating.

  • @davidlazzeri4450
    @davidlazzeri4450 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Remember they removed the WT Auf E 100 for it's gun being too OP and now we have the foch b

  • @wotdragonracer5624
    @wotdragonracer5624 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Super conqueror nerfs are so stupid, my main problem with it was that I have to spam HEAT at its cupola to pen and not bounce my shots, that’s the only thing that was unbalanced about it. Players shouldn’t have to spam gold to pen a weak spot, and even then it’s not even guaranteed. Firepower is good but it’s balanced since it does have a horrible hull. These changes to it are absolutely stupid and shows how out of touch wargaming is with the playerbase

  • @T51B1
    @T51B1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The changes to SConq, Mino, and Pz.7 make sense. Foch B didn't really need the changes, it looks like a yolo wagon and overbuffed. If the Foch B stays with those buffs then why keep the WT E100 out of the game?

  • @mattenmedia
    @mattenmedia 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When will the T57 heavy get some love. It’s been so left behind

  • @robertflint4115
    @robertflint4115 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Fairly mediocre player like me" If QB is mediocre, then we all must really suck. 🤣

  • @OnkelTomHDT
    @OnkelTomHDT 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I see planned changes on AMX 50 Foch B and SuperConq, I always have to ask myself, why WG doesn't improve AMX Foch155 and FV215? These two old tanks are not even close to the level of AMX 50 Foch B and SuperConq and WG seems to just to forget them forever... 🤨

  • @miroslavpralica251
    @miroslavpralica251 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We need a map rebalancing patch for higher tiers.

  • @mathewg5884
    @mathewg5884 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember the old world of tanks before they nerfed every tanks accuracy because the IS-7 couldn't bounce a shot. Back then when i fully aimed my shot I couldn't miss in my e 100. Every shot felt satisfying made me want to play the game again the next day. Now it's just endless frustration. The thing that made the game addictive, the feeling of SATISFACTION is gone.

  • @NoobMicesters
    @NoobMicesters 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like the Foch B would of done great with 1 of the 2 buff characteristics.
    Either make it able to escape after dumping better. Or make it able to get the oppertunity to dump more often. Doing both seems a bit silly.
    But i do feel it needed at least 1 of the buffs, sure high skill unicums will do well, but *most* Foch B's i see Unload 1 mag then die.

  • @1DeleterX1
    @1DeleterX1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    W-Hellcome back Waffenträger Foch Auf B, its been a long time...

  • @acomamind
    @acomamind 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thx qb for informing us all bout whats comin.
    imo, there are 2 types of balancing: one is trying to create Fairplay and even odds, so there is a minimum of meta-mechanics/plays/tanks.. everyone can have fun and everyone is samewise happy.. and then there is the second one and its for companies: make ur game dynamic so noone gets bored. create diffrences so emotions can rise and fall above the old and the new... simple psychology: static = boring / dynamic = vital

  • @rastooo
    @rastooo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think they needed to buff Foch 155 not the Foch B

  • @thomasstucki3702
    @thomasstucki3702 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    WG still not buffing the VK 45 02 B

    • @Miha23_
      @Miha23_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What is there to buff on it tho? Besides the AP pen that tank is fine. Has pretty good armour, solid gun and overall it's a solid brawling heavy.

    • @thomasstucki3702
      @thomasstucki3702 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Miha23_ It's worst than E75 in every way. Same gun but worst, same turret but worst, worst mobility, all that for a bit more hull armor that disapear again any gold rounds

    • @Miha23_
      @Miha23_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thomasstucki3702 Gun on VK is fine, both guns to their job. I don't see the point of trying to fix something that works. Mobility is worse for sure but it's not like e75 just rushes positions so who cares both will be slow. Regarding turret armor I did not notice any difference. 265 vs 280 when 340 heat flies your way trust me extra 15mm is not doing anything for u... Hull armor wise I disagree. More hull armor matters a lot when fighting 7s and and especially full gold spamming t8s. E75 one is 230-244 while VK is around high 245-260 when angled properly. That's right at the break point of most apcrs from t8 progettos and other annoying t8 tanks that ppl spam in mm constantly. That means u get to preserve more of that HP which VK has more of at base value. Preserving HP and using it properly is most important for German heavies. It either makes or breaks these tanks. VK is just fine, a good heavy player can be effective in it and it can shine. Also in general raving of WoT community about buffs to German tanks is prolly making WG puke at this point ppl cried for years to buff E50M and when buff came still nobody plays it even tho it's rly freaking good medium these days.
      Edit: spelling

    • @thomasstucki3702
      @thomasstucki3702 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Miha23_ The E75 is much more flexible in every way. The fact that the "armored version" is worst in every way is stupid. Of course good players can make it work, they can with every tank (i have 3.9k WN8 with it)And if they where such equal tanks, why is the E75 at the top of winrate différence and the VK at the bottom ?

    • @Miha23_
      @Miha23_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thomasstucki3702 Who legit cares about flexibility on a brawling t9 heavy... If u want that just play T55a or T-10...

  • @infinity3016
    @infinity3016 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    WHERES MY BATCHAT BUFF

  • @scottperry7311
    @scottperry7311 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    What they need to do if they want people to play higher tiers is nerf the purchase and repair costs of these tanks along with the amount of XP needed to grind modules, but they will never do that because $$$.

    • @crevette_farouche
      @crevette_farouche 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Or just stay in tier 7-9? You don't have to play tier 10.

    • @danam0228
      @danam0228 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Get rid of field mod.s too, pains in the ass

    • @scottperry7311
      @scottperry7311 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@crevette_farouche That's exactly what I do.

    • @FallenEgo
      @FallenEgo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For real, I've got 5 tier 10 tanks and don't play them due to the cost. My favorite tiers are 7 and 9 and I feel like I can still make a slight profit at 9 but my tier 10 games are usually huge credit losses. I don't play tier 10 anymore because of it. I've basically stopped picking lines to play based on the tier 10 and just focus on the 7's and 9's to make my decisions on which lines to play.

  • @High_Octane_YT
    @High_Octane_YT 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is going to be a bit of a rant, so bear with me.
    The following T10 tanks need buffs(not considering these changes):
    Foch B, Foch 155, Type 5 Heavy, 113, T-62A, Pz.Kpfw VII. (there are others, but I cant's think of them off the top of my head)
    To balance:
    Type 5 Heavy: This one is easy, just 10mm of extra armor everywhere except for hatches, this would give the type 5 a chance to bounce gold rounds, while maintaining the weakpoints so that f2p players can still fight it. In its current state people just spam gold straight through everything, no matter how little you peek they can pen you with gold. So I think this would be a good change.
    Pz.Kpfw VII: In its current state this tank is unusable, if you sidescraspe, people pen your 'armpit', if you go hull down, people pen your mantle and cheeks, if you go straight on people pen your lower plate, there is no position in which this tank has any decent protection. To fix this, I think we would need to make the flank weakpoint (the 'armpit') smaller, and thus harder to hit. Remove the mantle weakpoint entirely but leave the cheeks as they are. Another thing I forgot to mention is that the engine deck is easily overmatchable and easily hit able from any high angle, to fix this, is easy, increase its thickness from 40mm to 55mm.
    113: another easy one, increase roof thickness from 40mm to 55mm, increase gun depression from 7 to 8 degrees.
    T-62A: increase hp by 50, increase gun depression from 5 to 6 degrees, increse speed from 50 to 52-55 kmh.
    Foch 155 and Foch B: honestly the propised changes are good, except, it should only get +2 kmh reverse speed and .5m after firing.
    This is just my opinion, if anyone has any other ideas on how to balance these tanks, or think other tanks need balanced, I would love to hear them.

  • @Vincent-team-magic
    @Vincent-team-magic 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Buff type 5 is so painful to play....

  • @GrasshopperKelly
    @GrasshopperKelly 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    24:09 That's 100% what they do... they've said that multiple times across all their titles over the years; that's how they metric whether things need or do not need a buff/nerf. *Then* they decide "How do we balance it?". Tbh it could be worse... they could be just searching for random tanks to randomly buff or nerf to look like they're busy xD

  • @airton4700
    @airton4700 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They must do something with wheeled british mediums

    • @skorpion7132
      @skorpion7132 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, remove then along with the french ones.

  • @anadin7515
    @anadin7515 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    so why dont the buff my foch 155 then? Its accuracy and reload time are trash

  • @peteycrack8441
    @peteycrack8441 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wg ruins every tank I put bond equipment on.

  • @robertschuknecht1481
    @robertschuknecht1481 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    By the time I get to the Panzer VII they will probably be nerfing it.

    • @j0sh918
      @j0sh918 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      VK 45 2 B is smth to look forward to tho

  • @TheUnholyOneDsQ
    @TheUnholyOneDsQ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Guess the WT is coming back in a different way than we thought

  • @TheAdaoo7
    @TheAdaoo7 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    10:13 oh please. Calm down

  • @the_underscore319
    @the_underscore319 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just a small note. QB mentioned that the improved dispersion on the PZ 7 would only make it better at sniping, while that is true, it also quite significantly increases it's effective stabilisation due to how total dispersion is calculated in World of Tanks. The effect of -0.04 dispersion on the gun is huge (apart from making it a much better sniper), it's equivalent to having a normal set of stabilisers in the equipment slot for free (before buff with stabiliser 0.37 + 0.16 = 0.53 which would now be the same as after buff no stabilser 0.33 + 0.20 = 0.53). This calculation assumes that you're only moving or only turning your hull, good players ensure that while in a gun fight they minimise dispersion by only moving in one way at a time, if you move everything then stabiliser will still win, but stabiliser of course doesn't improve your accuracy when fully aimed which is a big advantage.
    This is why some top players will more often opt to use improved aiming over stabilisers since making good use of your dispersion will make stabilisers on some tanks useless in comparison. A good example where it's useful (at least for first shot) is the Bourrasque. Bourrasque has good base values for stabilisation (0.10) but very poor accuracy (0.40), this makes adding a stabiliser less beneficial since it would only improve moving dispersion by 0.02 compared to an improved aiming unit which would improve dispersion by 0.03. The result of this is that not only do you get better stabilisation, you also get better accuracy once you're fully aimed, it's almost like having 2 pieces of equipment in 1. Don't underestimate imroved aiming devices.
    In short the PZ 7 is getting a pretty big buff if Wargaming doesn't change anything.

  • @azizsetyawan3038
    @azizsetyawan3038 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well. In this case the super conqu would be slightly worst than type 71. Because the worst DPM and doesn't have any new mechanic to keep up
    In the end the type 71 will kick super conqu for the king of hulldown (tech tree side)

  • @watercannonscollaboration2281
    @watercannonscollaboration2281 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    24:29 the tech tree grind as well as the crew grind just makes it so discouraging to try to go down a new tech tree, even with all of the special crew and boosters WG now has

    • @imma5761
      @imma5761 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bruh it has never been easier to grind tech tree.
      X5 or x3 missions(that happen often nowadays) combined with clan and personal boosters can EASILY make mediocre/bad stock tank win turn into 20k xp.
      Combine it with blueprints and you can EASILY ascend tech tree

  • @RayForrester
    @RayForrester 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think WG wants to equalize outcomes for as many players as possible.

  • @werewolfboy_gt
    @werewolfboy_gt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    WG don't know what is the problem with hulldown tanks!

  • @GardaNorth
    @GardaNorth 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I don't play any tanks that have been nerfed again. I'm bad enough in them without being nerfed :(

    • @istvantoth3775
      @istvantoth3775 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The game is so easy to learn..

  • @diamondrmp
    @diamondrmp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Weird timing. I just sent a suggestion to WG that they should sell the BZ-176 and EBR because these two tanks are so OP. If they sell them then newer players have a chance to get those tanks to balance out the game. WG told me to post un discord which i did. THEN these buffs and nerfs come out. They are nerfing the SC and Mino, which are the good competitors for the BZ-176!

  • @cocowwwww7381
    @cocowwwww7381 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are they going to buff the Type 71 anytime soon ?

  • @XSharkdarkX
    @XSharkdarkX 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Since WG is nerfing popular tanks, what about Bourrasque, BZ-176 and ELC Even ? Oh yes they are in the holy untouchable premium category

  • @vettim89
    @vettim89 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    While I don't know that the Foch B needed any love from WG, the AC 48 certainly needs a buff. If you compare that tank to other tech tree tier VII TDs it is really lacking. The DPM is awful and the gun handling is atrocious.

  • @Marco-cg7fb
    @Marco-cg7fb 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bc25t buff soon?

  • @wolffofwar
    @wolffofwar 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tier 10 is the garbage tier of Wot. Easily the least fun tier in the game.

  • @NGabunchanumbers
    @NGabunchanumbers 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Foch b is my favourite tier x, it seems like they're just taking the equipment I have mounted and making it standard for a stock foch b.... I think Foch 155 deserved these buffs a lot more.
    Also I use foch b without any gold

  • @isaiahjennings2295
    @isaiahjennings2295 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You think they would buff the front plate of the type 71 considering how bad the win rate is

  • @1989Falkor
    @1989Falkor 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im not seeing the S Conq in Maneuvers, did they already nerf it?

  • @csabamajor8764
    @csabamajor8764 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks, nice in depth patch review.

  • @ICT_Made
    @ICT_Made 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the 60tp, i think E5 can destroy 60tp easy, i mean E5 has a reload of a medium tank and more driving speed, 60TP reload is to slow for E5 but 60tp have the damage to make up for the long reload.

  • @warco3
    @warco3 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm so excited for the Pz7 changes. I love the tank but right now it's simply not competitive.

  • @Orcone
    @Orcone 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Foch could use all these gunhandling buffs. Speed, not so much. The Sconq has another AMX m4 situation where people pretend it does not need nerfs. Right now it is the best tank for hulldown positions while having the versatility to also streetbrawl. It lacks the mobility the Chieftain once had. But this was certainly second pick after it. You just cannot give tanks that are nearly invurnerable in certain positions also have the best dpm.
    I'm happy they didnt nerf the turret. It's what makes the tank. But i'm glad they toned down the dpm so it makes hulldown tanks that have weakspots not feel pointless to fight against it.
    Speaking about Onslaught. The Sconq has always been highly relevant. Even during the AMX meta. Only recently it has been outpicked by the 60TP due to the Onslaught gunhandling stats (And stupidly high hp which needs looking at). But again. In hulldown maps it remains second pick but when you play 7v7 and you get for example Westfield or Redshire. You will guaranteed meet atleast 3-4 sConqs.

  • @asocialsocialist2534
    @asocialsocialist2534 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They should completely remove the side weakpoint on the Pz.7