Topoint archery is known for compound and recurve bows, they also make a range of archery accessories. The 420 release is the new thumb trigger aimed at target archers. archeryshop.com...
Don't be afraid of upsetting anyone mate, your reviews are honest, interesting, accurate & you cover all aspects of the products you test. keep up the good work.
I bought one of these and immediately took it apart. It looks reasonably well made and definitely a solid design. I sanded all the sears, oiled it. Sanded the release latch, and tried it out. It's great!! Super reliable, very crisp! Of all the parts, the latch needed the most work. I've seen some people say they tear up their releases and I can see that happening if they were any worse than mine. A little sanding tho and it was like butter. For me at least, totally worth the hr of sanding/oiling to save $350 CAD. In most cases the reason china has these designs is not because they "copied" them, but because they were handed them by US companies to make their products.
It’s not the Chinese company’s fault that bow and release manufacturers don’t patent a lot of their stuff like they used to. I think a lot of release manufacturers are exaggerating the “made in USA” claims when in reality they’ve had the Chinese company Machine the parts and it’s assembled here in the US and because of that these companies take the CAD (computer aided designs) and just make their own knockoffs.
Steve seems like an awesome guy. I wish I had someone like him in my neck of the woods with a bow shop. Class act, really good stuff. I watch his videos all the time. Just seems like an all around great person. Keep up the good work mate.
The $350 & some even $400 + price tag of big name release aids is completely unaffordable for many archers. About time a reasonable quality alternative surfaced. Having seen these, they certainly have a market.
biggest rip off in archery ! Ive gotten super quality releases for under 30 bucks from china . The mark up American companies have put on these releases is criminal ! im all for buying American but not when they are selling something that costs 14 dollar to make for $300 + dollars !
@@jesusoftheapes You're forgetting they need to cover design costs and other costs involved, like machines, the factories etc. That being said $300 is a little much. I currently shoot a Tru Fire Synapse trigger release, and I can tell you that it's noticeably meh quality. It cost me €200 instead of €300 for a blade, and it's already starting to rust, the jaw has a lot of wiggle room, the clip doesn't automatically close when clocking etc. I'm definitely getting a Blade at some point, just because I know they are the absolute best quality. Even if you can't afford a blade, second hand is still an option.
@@justinvzu01 I bought every taiwanese brand release i could find that were made with the same materials as the best companies in the business and found some really wild and different release designs and I bought 5 for the cost of one of those things . My favorite four finger release wilt a center ring through finger design. cost $36 dollars and it's every bit as quality as some of the Carters I have owned . Other countries who are also into archery products make nice stuff sometimes .
@@justinvzu01 Some of them are better some are toys and some are middle of the road . I went down that rabbit hole and came out with the best release I have ever owned . There are always trash version but the difference in material cost is minor between crap and good so even a lot of the cheaps use really high end aluminum and sophisticated trigger systems .
put tension on the claw so it is getting pulled on a tad and the thumb trigger loosens up fast and with a bit of file work you can make this thing as precise as any release aid trigger on the market .
just bought this aid based on this video. its crazy how light you can get it. replaced the spring and set the tension screw just hard enough for the caliper to lock closed. for me it was so light you could almoast shake it hard to make it go off. thightened 2 turns past that and now its perfect for me
I agree hopefully some competition will force prices down. Its definately a nice looking release. Thanks for the review always interesting. Once ive paid off my kinetic trium i might have a play with one of those supras
Oh the Salinda compound. LOL. There is another company who wont talk when you have a problem. I have one with a broken cable guard. Because it is unique I can not fit another one to the bow making the bow worthless. Oh well. the bow shoots fine.
Archery Supplies mines done well got it for £200 new didnt want to swap to compound but due to shoulder injury cudnt continue with recuve +i wasnt very good. in the 1st 3 months it with ive obtained 1st class and beat a couple of the prevail boys with it. Of all the bows in a similar price range i got best groups with that. Saying that it does have some downfalls like crappy string and slow speed lol at least its kept me in the sport and seeing as ive done well with it ill be sticking to compound and toying with cery light recurve. Again love ur reviews and thanks for the reply
I’m shooting Topoint PT-414. Pistol grip, trigger release aid. I wouldn’t shoot anything else. It’s perfect for hunting. It does target well. You can only refine a product so much and after a certain stage it becomes pointless to machine it, tune it, polish it further. Getting used to your release aid is far more important than paying a zillion bucks for the best of the best. What I’m saying is that after a certain price, you can’t benifit from it.
Hey Steven, just watched your video. I like that you test also these affordable releases for people like me on a budget. Since this video is one year old, did you have any customers that shared their experience with you concerning this release?
I've got mine a week ago and I find it excelent. I can adjust sensetivity and release to the point where the scale can't detect any weight on the trigger while shooting. You can shoot it with just a gentle touch. Maybe it is a upgrated version? Idon't know. It cost me US $67 with all transport and import taxes. Thank you Steven!
I have the release can make it extremely soft. The screw by the locking button screw it 1 thread in. Use the locking screw and lock that in. Next move up by the thump release the larger screw lightens the release.
i saw this release online and wondering how good it is. my question: how is trigger travel sensitivity on this release? can we adjust it to the point like we did on carter release?
I just got this release. you can adjust the spring tension and the travel i think the screws must have fell out in yours. I have mine adjusted to the point it takes no pressure to set it off. The down side I can see is it's a bit loud but if your only using it for target shooting there's no problem
Probably is a decent product but they don't normally use good quality steel internals. The load bearing components need to go through a heat treatment process to make them harder which will reduce wear. This is why cheaper ones don't last long. False economy unless your not planning on using it much I guess.
Use a test string, tied to something solid. That way no punching yourself in the face or launching arrows over the fence. Ask me how I know. Also, I can’t understand how the American release aid cost more than a good quality Bow from China. How do they justify that?
Save your money and get a quality release. I tried the topoint. It worked for only 1/2 of a NFAA 300 round, before it had a catastrophic failure. My Stan shootoff has 10s of thousands shoots. It work flawlessly. The topoint couldn't get 100 shots off
I love the American mantra, "don't buy Chinese", then the manufactures shop down the cheapest factory to make their product. But as a consumer, we are not allowed to shop the best price, quality aside. Some things are like jeans, takes 10 pairs and only one pair will be your favorite. I'm wanting to try a GOAT, but I would have nothing to compare it to so it would be the best. I thought my Mathew's was the bee's knees until I tried a Prime and then a PSE. There is nothing wrong with the Chinese stirring up the pot. I get the whole copyright concept, it works, but really it does't. For the record I don't typically buy anything from China, But I will defend your right to do so if that is your cup of tea.
Granted...cheap-made Chinese products may not be as near good as those original, but it gives those who can’t afford the high price tag a choice. And that’s why such company as topoint exists.
People sleep on topoint and sanlida. Best affordable archery companies out there yet some of their products are just as good if not better than the top American manufacturers
So the manufacturers of that release aid sell them to another company who brand it with their own logo and sell it for more money, hence the copyrights
As someone who has only been shooting for three months, only two of which were compound, I think we've all punched each other in the face when they started out. Everyone has done it.
Ive had a go with one of these.... Didnt like how it feels in my hand. As to China... There is no such thing as copyright in China. You can arrange a no copy or sharing of the plans agreement with the company.. (Probably costs money tho)
shit for 600 I would buy used 2 years back and get the flagship bow that will last you a lifetime along with all the gear you need! You can get a fully loaded flagship bow 2 years old for 600$ all day
aKu_SneakySnake TTV that’s what I do. Last year I bought a 2016 flagship for stupid cheap new in bow(with warranty) this week I bought a 2017 for my wife for even cheaper. I say if on a budget, look at 1-2 year old flagships(whether new or used) rather than the newest budget bow
I've got this release aid in my bow bag for emergencies. It's dog shit. The distance screw in the back does not hold still between ends. It slowly works itself in, making the release become more and more mushy, until eventually the jaws can't close due to it being too loose.
I just got mine 3 days ago and simply said I love it big time. Did some adjusting which is in laymans terms simple. Just adjust to your liking . Smooth crisp & clean I'm glad I purchases it.
It all depends on your budget. If you only have $80 for a sight and scope then you have no alternative. But if you cam afford more the sights and scopes get bettee. My sight is600 my scope is 300. So even if you buy a scope and sight for 200 it is not as good as 900.
I had two of them (one was a replacement). They both destroyed my D-loop in less than 200 shots. For me, that release is crap. I ended up with a Truball Fang 3, it's twice the price but a thousand times better for sure.
Don't be afraid of upsetting anyone mate, your reviews are honest, interesting, accurate & you cover all aspects of the products you test. keep up the good work.
@Zayne Nash why are you replying to a comment I left on an archery video 2 years ago with an unrelated link to a dodgy film site? lol
I bought one of these and immediately took it apart. It looks reasonably well made and definitely a solid design. I sanded all the sears, oiled it. Sanded the release latch, and tried it out. It's great!! Super reliable, very crisp! Of all the parts, the latch needed the most work. I've seen some people say they tear up their releases and I can see that happening if they were any worse than mine. A little sanding tho and it was like butter. For me at least, totally worth the hr of sanding/oiling to save $350 CAD.
In most cases the reason china has these designs is not because they "copied" them, but because they were handed them by US companies to make their products.
It’s not the Chinese company’s fault that bow and release manufacturers don’t patent a lot of their stuff like they used to. I think a lot of release manufacturers are exaggerating the “made in USA” claims when in reality they’ve had the Chinese company Machine the parts and it’s assembled here in the US and because of that these companies take the CAD (computer aided designs) and just make their own knockoffs.
Steve seems like an awesome guy. I wish I had someone like him in my neck of the woods with a bow shop. Class act, really good stuff. I watch his videos all the time. Just seems like an all around great person. Keep up the good work mate.
Thank you. I appreciate your enthusiasm, honest reviews, and advice in the archery subject.
The $350 & some even $400 + price tag of big name release aids is completely unaffordable for many archers. About time a reasonable quality alternative surfaced. Having seen these, they certainly have a market.
biggest rip off in archery ! Ive gotten super quality releases for under 30 bucks from china . The mark up American companies have put on these releases is criminal ! im all for buying American but not when they are selling something that costs 14 dollar to make for $300 + dollars !
@@jesusoftheapes You're forgetting they need to cover design costs and other costs involved, like machines, the factories etc. That being said $300 is a little much.
I currently shoot a Tru Fire Synapse trigger release, and I can tell you that it's noticeably meh quality. It cost me €200 instead of €300 for a blade, and it's already starting to rust, the jaw has a lot of wiggle room, the clip doesn't automatically close when clocking etc. I'm definitely getting a Blade at some point, just because I know they are the absolute best quality. Even if you can't afford a blade, second hand is still an option.
@@justinvzu01 I bought every taiwanese brand release i could find that were made with the same materials as the best companies in the business and found some really wild and different release designs and I bought 5 for the cost of one of those things . My favorite four finger release wilt a center ring through finger design. cost $36 dollars and it's every bit as quality as some of the Carters I have owned . Other countries who are also into archery products make nice stuff sometimes .
@@jesusoftheapes Trust me, you get what you pay for. Those releases really aren't as good as you think.
@@justinvzu01 Some of them are better some are toys and some are middle of the road . I went down that rabbit hole and came out with the best release I have ever owned . There are always trash version but the difference in material cost is minor between crap and good so even a lot of the cheaps use really high end aluminum and sophisticated trigger systems .
I love the honest review, the approachable, believable personality is just spot on, keep it going
put tension on the claw so it is getting pulled on a tad and the thumb trigger loosens up fast and with a bit of file work you can make this thing as precise as any release aid trigger on the market .
just bought this aid based on this video.
its crazy how light you can get it. replaced the spring and set the tension screw just hard enough for the caliper to lock closed. for me it was so light you could almoast shake it hard to make it go off. thightened 2 turns past that and now its perfect for me
I agree hopefully some competition will force prices down.
Its definately a nice looking release. Thanks for the review always interesting. Once ive paid off my kinetic trium i might have a play with one of those supras
Oh the Salinda compound. LOL. There is another company who wont talk when you have a problem. I have one with a broken cable guard. Because it is unique I can not fit another one to the bow making the bow worthless. Oh well. the bow shoots fine.
Archery Supplies mines done well got it for £200 new didnt want to swap to compound but due to shoulder injury cudnt continue with recuve +i wasnt very good. in the 1st 3 months it with ive obtained 1st class and beat a couple of the prevail boys with it. Of all the bows in a similar price range i got best groups with that. Saying that it does have some downfalls like crappy string and slow speed lol at least its kept me in the sport and seeing as ive done well with it ill be sticking to compound and toying with cery light recurve. Again love ur reviews and thanks for the reply
I’m shooting Topoint PT-414.
Pistol grip, trigger release aid.
I wouldn’t shoot anything else.
It’s perfect for hunting.
It does target well.
You can only refine a product so much and after a certain stage it becomes pointless to machine it, tune it, polish it further. Getting used to your release aid is far more important than paying a zillion bucks for the best of the best. What I’m saying is that after a certain price, you can’t benifit from it.
can u share a link for the same, i can't find it
Hi Steve, have Bought this product myself works great. Derrick C , customer from WA
Honest reviews. Well done mate
Hey Steven, just watched your video. I like that you test also these affordable releases for people like me on a budget. Since this video is one year old, did you have any customers that shared their experience with you concerning this release?
I've got mine a week ago and I find it excelent. I can adjust sensetivity and release to the point where the scale can't detect any weight on the trigger while shooting. You can shoot it with just a gentle touch. Maybe it is a upgrated version? Idon't know. It cost me US $67 with all transport and import taxes. Thank you Steven!
I have the release can make it extremely soft. The screw by the locking button screw it 1 thread in. Use the locking screw and lock that in. Next move up by the thump release the larger screw lightens the release.
i saw this release online and wondering how good it is. my question: how is trigger travel sensitivity on this release? can we adjust it to the point like we did on carter release?
Love these reviews really help with deciding what to look for. 👍
I just got this release. you can adjust the spring tension and the travel i think the screws must have fell out in yours. I have mine adjusted to the point it takes no pressure to set it off. The down side I can see is it's a bit loud but if your only using it for target shooting there's no problem
Probably is a decent product but they don't normally use good quality steel internals.
The load bearing components need to go through a heat treatment process to make them harder which will reduce wear.
This is why cheaper ones don't last long. False economy unless your not planning on using it much I guess.
Steve can you review the Topoint TP460 Hinge release aid from Topoint? Sold here for $100.
Could you please do a review of the back tension release by topoint
Use a test string, tied to something solid. That way no punching yourself in the face or launching arrows over the fence. Ask me how I know.
Also, I can’t understand how the American release aid cost more than a good quality Bow from China. How do they justify that?
This is a very crisp release at least mine is and out of the box I can adjust it down to where I barely touch it and it goes off
What is this release made after. Or a copy of.
Save your money and get a quality release.
I tried the topoint. It worked for only 1/2 of a NFAA 300 round, before it had a catastrophic failure.
My Stan shootoff has 10s of thousands shoots. It work flawlessly. The topoint couldn't get 100 shots off
For those using as a hunting release, is the noise an issue?
I love the American mantra, "don't buy Chinese", then the manufactures shop down the cheapest factory to make their product. But as a consumer, we are not allowed to shop the best price, quality aside. Some things are like jeans, takes 10 pairs and only one pair will be your favorite. I'm wanting to try a GOAT, but I would have nothing to compare it to so it would be the best. I thought my Mathew's was the bee's knees until I tried a Prime and then a PSE. There is nothing wrong with the Chinese stirring up the pot. I get the whole copyright concept, it works, but really it does't. For the record I don't typically buy anything from China, But I will defend your right to do so if that is your cup of tea.
Granted...cheap-made Chinese products may not be as near good as those original, but it gives those who can’t afford the high price tag a choice. And that’s why such company as topoint exists.
Your reviews are honest.. don’t waste time or worry about upsetting others.. fuck em..
The look at 7.48 just describes this release aid😂
He jammed it it’s not the fault of the release.
People sleep on topoint and sanlida. Best affordable archery companies out there yet some of their products are just as good if not better than the top American manufacturers
So the manufacturers of that release aid sell them to another company who brand it with their own logo and sell it for more money, hence the copyrights
Im looking for an inexpensive hunting thumb release with this style. What do you suggest?
As someone who has only been shooting for three months, only two of which were compound, I think we've all punched each other in the face when they started out. Everyone has done it.
Whats wrong with selling aussie made?
Спасибо за обзоры и классные видео
Ive had a go with one of these.... Didnt like how it feels in my hand.
As to China... There is no such thing as copyright in China. You can arrange a no copy or sharing of the plans agreement with the company.. (Probably costs money tho)
a fully set up bow for 600 bones.. idk. its hard to find a good bow for 600 bones... depending on what you want to do with it.
How many times have you been involved in lies. One way or another you have been involved or played a part in all of them it seems to me
is it safe to be using china release aid?
Yes but you may need to get a covid shit first.
shit for 600 I would buy used 2 years back and get the flagship bow that will last you a lifetime along with all the gear you need! You can get a fully loaded flagship bow 2 years old for 600$ all day
aKu_SneakySnake TTV that’s what I do. Last year I bought a 2016 flagship for stupid cheap new in bow(with warranty) this week I bought a 2017 for my wife for even cheaper. I say if on a budget, look at 1-2 year old flagships(whether new or used) rather than the newest budget bow
well... if you do not hit the target, you can zombie on the head with this brass knuckles to get
I've got this release aid in my bow bag for emergencies. It's dog shit. The distance screw in the back does not hold still between ends. It slowly works itself in, making the release become more and more mushy, until eventually the jaws can't close due to it being too loose.
Now you can get a RELEASE for 100$ that is top shelf.
This gets the dudes approval.
Could somebody point me in the direction of a good review for the Tru Ball rave release
I just got mine 3 days ago and simply said I love it big time. Did some adjusting which is in laymans terms simple. Just adjust to your liking . Smooth crisp & clean I'm glad I purchases it.
I bought a topoint sight and scope, it was a mistake.
It all depends on your budget. If you only have $80 for a sight and scope then you have no alternative. But if you cam afford more the sights and scopes get bettee. My sight is600 my scope is 300. So even if you buy a scope and sight for 200 it is not as good as 900.
I had two of them (one was a replacement). They both destroyed my D-loop in less than 200 shots. For me, that release is crap. I ended up with a Truball Fang 3, it's twice the price but a thousand times better for sure.
Have you ever heard of sand paper? It's this new majik paper to make things smooth. Don't be afraid of technology!!!!
@@GertTown You're sooooooooooooooooooooo funny.........NO.
I would never buy something that loud
where can i find it in usa
Amazon
eBay if you don't want to fund giant penis rockets
It is what it is...... A lower cost release aid.
That is one noisy release aid
It’s noisy but most thumb buttons are, this one isn’t really for hunting, so noise isn’t an issue
Obvious Chinese copy of the Truball Blade, with added swoop to make it look changed.
Prefer this to my
t rex
100 out of your paycheck mate
U should try to make quicker video,just cut the useless part
To each their own. But I support American made.
stoner archers everywhere are buying these things in droves !