Vivian Campbell on Dio Holy Diver Songwriting Money, "I was coerced to sign over my publishing" 2022
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In a brand new interview with Let There Be Talk, guitarist Vivian Campbell talked about his Dio audition and being underpaid during his time in the band.
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vivian was a huge part of the success of those two dio albums, monster player
meh
@@Geraldo-ro9rc bah
Vivian Campbell is a class act and an excellent guitar player!!!!
Ya buddy cause WE ROCK
and a crybaby apparently
DIO made him. He’s done NOTHING notable after Dio. Well, he DOES play second guitar on Pour Some Sugar on Me; so he at least has money, if no memorable songs since 1984.
He's a sniveling sulk and a washed up has been. Def Leopard's perfect for him. He can play with other washed up sell outs!
@Alex Montburg The issue isn’t who “made Dio,” who had a great career after leaving Rainbow for Black Sabbath and solo. The only notable thing Campbell has done is accept second guitar in the worst version of Def Leppard. Also, Dio has stated that he is grateful to Blackmore for the opportunity, while Campbell did nothing but slag RJD.
holy diver solo is brilliant and the album is one of the few rock albums with every song is great.
thats not rock its Heavy Metal.
@@jumpfart666 your a complete moron but you already knew that, to make such a stupid comment and have 666 in your ID and click the like button on your own comment HAHAHAHA!
Criminal how all of this talent in music went unpaid.
Bob Daisley agrees with you
There's always 3 sides to the story - your side , my side , and the truth
@@davidrice3337 no sometimes there are merely two sides when one fully embraces the truth. Bob was unpaid and got screwed over thats simply a fact, lee got screwed, ozzy lied about who wrote Bark at the Moon and took money out of Jake's pocket. the truth is Ozzy and Darth Hideous are two horrible people
Not criminal at all. Stupid people are not so good at looking out for themselves. Go to your HR and demand extra money that was not in writing, they will look at you like you lost your mind.
@@jamesbarrick3403 Agree. Actually vivian was paid well. 1982 - $440.00 a week, not including his per diam for daily living, was allot for a musician. The criminal element maybe all the talk about things they know nothing about.
Holy Diver and Last In Line are classic metal records. Viv finally got paid with Def Leppard but he hasn't ever shredded like those first 2 records again.
Check out Last in Line. Viv is back shredding! Let's be real, nothing is going to measure up to the first two Dio albums, but hey, Its still very good. I love em, would go catch a live show.
Haven’t seen many live shows with them have you? Every once in a while he goes off script. He generally stays on script- he knows it’s not his place to let it rip. He’s the best guitarist in that band by a mile. It’s not even close.
and Sacred Heart
@@unclephilly2127 Meh. Sacred Heart sounds like a pale version of the first two albums. The title track is good.
@@MrOctober44 Like a Beat of a Heart is a great song. So is the King of Rock and Roll , the song he opened up with on that tour. Just Another Day was also a great track off that record in my opinion.
I believe him 100 percent..This goes on very often in the business..
Oh yeah music is a cut-throat business. It is like that, you write the song as a band, leave band get nothing...it is the way it is. After you gone on road trips all over the place. Most shows you still have to pay for your own drinks which is more than your pay.... Long way to the top friends
Both Appice and Bain supported his statements.
The whole situation between Vivian, Dio, and Wendy reminds me of Jake E Lee, Ozzy, and Sharon
I was the biggest DIO fan as a kid and was distraught when Viv left
we all wore they were the poor man's Ozzy and Randy
@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle His Dio days ARE his glory days!!!
@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle And btw you’re really a dumbass for saying that. I’ll admit Randy was a better guitarist, but dude Dio kills Ozzy on vox!!!
@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle, in what world is Ozzy better than Dio as a singer?
@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle
Randy Rhodes...the average that was handfed a music degree but needed a bass player from a generic band to hold his hand and show him what's real. You are just another one of those randy ball lickers with nothing much else to offer.
Rediculous being treated like that. Vivian wrote and played brilliantly on the first two albums! Some of the best music of our time. RJD and Wendy are like Ozzy and Sharon. They are only out to get what they can and to hell with anybody else. Jake E Lee being a prime example, same thing happened to him with Ozzy. Millions of dollars going around except to the people who make the music that we all treasure so much. That being said RIP RJD. One of the finest singers and performers of our time!
ronnie james dwarf caused BS to lose millions he is a POS and ian gillan is a much better singer than ronnie james dwarf
its a kind of financial leverage. these people know they're nothing without their band and support. The minute someone becomes hugely successful they attach themselves to that and leverage it for themselves. They did the same thing to Randy but he didn't survive to realize he was being ripped off to. I heard Randy's family took Sharon to court and won their publishing rights Ozzy and Sharon we're going to keep all the money they owed Randy. They knew they had the legacy of back stabbath and all they had to do was hold auditions and they had tons of brilliant players on tap. Why do you think Zakk quit ozzy just recently. He had to take them to court to get his money too.
My cousin told me Sharon was jewish. No surprise here. They ripped off Jake E Lee also. Sharon is using Ozzy for his paychecks. He cant sung and has to lip sync at concerts. Its cringe worthy
Jake spent a week or so with Dio, in his garage when he was looking for his guitarist. He talks about it in a fairly recent interview, very entertaining! I remember Jake said Ronnie played the bass, and could be heard over the guitars without a mike, lol. He said it didn’t work out with Dio, but he had nice things to say about the experience. Jake thought Dio didn’t really want that LA type sound, rather a more European style, and Dio went with Vivian soon after.
Agree, Bark at the Moon = Lee, Ozzy writes Lyrics without that Guitar & music written it would be nothing, I think its more Sharon not Ozzy. Great Rock Music & Lyrics Ozzy.
Never give up your songwriting credits. EVER!
Jake E Lee got screwed kinda like this too….What’s the deal?
@@Johnbartheart Sharon Osbourne and Wendy Dio.
That's hard to do when you're a young guitar player with no pull who can be replaced at the drop of a hat. Same with Jake
True....but he would have been fired if he said no...bit of a no win situation
@@GordonHeaney And you’d probably have to sue to get your money if you stood your ground. I feel bad because Ozzy got ripped of by Don Arden, Sharon’s father, and I think Sharon was the driving force in all of Ozzy’s business dealings. Maybe if the Sabs hadn’t been robbed, Ozzy would have been more inclined to stand up to Sharon and insist on better deals for his musicians. I know that both Sharon and Ozzy were in debt themselves in the early 80’s, and record companies were awful. They were like banks that would lend you money but still own your house after you pay it off.
I believe the girlfriend/wife situation with Wendy running things with Dio was the inspiration for the girlfriend managing the band in the movie Spinal Tap.
Vinny and Jimmy said the same thing. Viv is honest
I remember pre paying for Holy Diver on cassette at a small record shop in Warwick R.I. I got the call that it was in. By the time I got to the store the clerk told me they had sold out. Good thing I pre paid for mine. I played that cassette non stop.
That's the most old school thing I've read in a long time. Cheers!
@@al1665 Thanks! I was the guy who showed up the night before at the local ticket master to get tickets for the show.. Closest I ever got was 4th row center stage for Black Sabbath.
Wow,
That’s just crazy, Vivian Campbell was one of my favorites back in those Dio days, his playing was so spontaneous and rad! I was 14 in 1984, my first concert was Motley Crue in 1985 at Joe Louis arena in Detroit Michigan. I loved the music in the 80s big time. I’m glad Vivian is playing with Def Leopard, I saw them in 2009 with Poison in Tinley Park Illinois, I was 20 rows back, great concert! Vivian Campbell is still badass!
You’re narrations are just the best!
I’m glad Campbell got into Def Leppard and untimely made the RRHOF. He was constantly screwed by other artist bands that he played in. Dio and Whitesnake the 2 most famous examples. 2 bands in name only and really a singers solo project.
Yeah cuz Ronnie and David were power hungry....kinda like the situation with Ozzy/Sharon and Jake....bunch of B.S.
Only sad part. Def leppard havent done one good song after Steve Clark died. Really. In 30 years. Not one song
@@bjeffbuck1369 listen to take what you want
@@bjeffbuck1369 their new song "take what you want" is the best they've done since the 80s. Great guitars.
Def Leppard held auditions(Gary Hoey even tried out). Then they just simply said "why don't we just get Vivian?" The band sought Him out
Say what you want about Vivian but Dio's popularity dropped significantly after Vivian left. The first three albums went gold or platinum. None did after him.
It was very shortsighted, unethical and downright greedy to use his talent and dangle a carrot like that.
Sounds like Ozzy and Sharon
@@evangelistbrianbaker It's Nothing new in the music world. Hell, I watched "Get on Up" the James Brown movie the other day. He became the "name" & his musicians became salaried employees. Then they didn't even get that. It gets like that in other business too. Boss reaps the rewards
Come on guys, it’s not because of Vivian! Dio & Jimmy were with Rainbow and Dio & Vinny with Sabbath. Already legends! Who was Vivian and what has he achieved after being let go from Dio? Exactly, nothing! He could have formed a band and being creative. And what did he do instead? Chasing fame and money with Whitesnake and Def Leppard. Did he wrote classics with those 2 bands? No he didn’t. I’m getting tired of all this interviews hearing him whining about getting screwed by Dio (and Wendy). Anyone could have played his guitar parts. He’s not on a level of a John Sykes…
From what I remember, most of his albums after that still performed pretty well. Pretty sure most of them charted on the billboard 200, at least.
Vivian Campbell is brilliant! I was impressed to hear he’d saved what little money he was receiving. It’s disappointing to hear that Ronnie was not fair to the guys in his band.
And then he blew it all on a car
🤣😂🤣😂
@@BangBang-hk4rg Boo Yaa! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Better than Dope, or a bunch of Clydesdales*.
*Ted Nugent
Ronnie had a different take. You should hear both sides. And that band was dio. Not many people went to see Vivian or whoever was in the band. They went to see Dio. He also was the catalyst for Campbell to go on and make money in Def Leppard. If it wasn't for dio giving him his shot he wouldn't of even been offered the gig
@@lifeofgaming6112 A deal is a deal. He broke the deal. If your word means nothing, you mean nothing.
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Wow, thank you for the comment. Much appreciated.
One of my fave guitar solos ever is from "Rainbow in the Dark". Vivian was so good at such a young age. A friend of mine told me that he left Whitesnake because of Tawny Kitaen bossing everyone around.if anyone knows it's true, please reply. It seems fitting that Vivian joined Def Leppard. They didn't seem to have egos that we're over the top. Dio knew who he had and he lost him. Viv's solos in Whitesnake are just as good. More power to him.
you should listen to the isolated guitar track of that song, he was a little sloppy compare that to the isolated tracks of Randy Rhoads and you can tell the talent delta. Viv is a very good player/ Viv joined Def Leppard to pay the bills, he formed last in line to make sure his balls still work
sucked that he couldnt join a harder band tho.
tawney is like 387 pounds and spent millions on facelifts that is why her clitoris ended up on her chin
@@darylhall2198 It sucked more that he couldn't give DL their "edge" back.
@@robeddy3722 yeah once they did hysteria there was no going back
It's a shame Dio couldnt do the right thing. I was a big fan. I guess singing for Sabbath must do something to you morally. Youre not just paying for the rehearsals and performances, youre paying for the 10,000 hours it takes to be that good. Lots of great players. Very few great songwriters.
Yeah …. I saw sabbath , years ago , not to see , them , but , special guest “TED NUGENT”, opened , and he just sucked all the energy , right out of the civic center….. 💥poof ! He was promoting , “stranglehold” , I heard him , in amboy dukes , but they never , did it ! But when he started in on the title song , the place was rockin ! Then sabbath , came out , they had “big goose egg” stage presence, they just stood there like , they was nailed to the white stage , cept for Ozzie , he was jumpin up an down doin , his B/S , but TED , took the night , by far !
@@deecee9735 Ozzie?
@@johndeaux3703 what?….Ozzy..what ? What about him ?
The love of money is the root of all evil…
The band was never the same after that horrible business decision by Wendy and Ronnie.
all those 80's Dio albums are metal classics in my book(including "Dream Evil")...... I even like some of the later records...... but that Vivian era is truly unmatched...... so many great tunes
"Shame on the night" is my favorite song on the holy diver album.
Same here
me too....those outro drum fills...yes!!!!
Shame on you.
@@ytr3488 shamevon ALL of you
When I was 14 (back in 1984), me and a couple of mates skipped school and we heard from a mate that there was a rock star staying in Buncrana (Donegal, Ireland) at his family's summer house...so we made our way over and believe it or not we seen him and we still argue with each other about the songs we heard him play (I still say it was the songs from Sacred Heart)
So did Vivian invite you inside and play for you, or were you eavesdropping outside the house? Either way that’s pretty effing cool! 🤘🏻
@@slimgoodboogie2184 No we knew the house to go to and we listen from outside, we could see him playing through the front window - not overly loud as there were other holiday homes beside them....we just hung around for an hour - he didn't take us on or anything, we could see him playing away on what I remember was a Gold Burst Gibson Les Paul
I was playing in a band in Montreal, in the 80’s and Dio and his band came to the montreal forum for a concert.
The day before the concert some of his band members came to the club where me and my band played.
As we were playing the first set, we noticed lots of people at one table, and soon enough we discovered it was jimmy bain and vivian campbell.
So after the set we went to talk to them, lots of drinks, lots of women , and we asked if they wanted to play onstage with our band, they declined.
As we begin the second set our bass player went to the microphone and asked the crowd if they wanted to see Campbell and Bain play some Dio onstage with us……The crowd went crazy, so they couldn’t refuse, I saw their look and they were not pleased but they did came onstage.
In my band we were 2 guitars, and the other guitarist had a marshall and some pedals like randy rhoads, and myself had the same equipment, So vivan got his guitar and started to tweak the sound, and to my surprised it sounded like Van Halen’s brown sound, he just tweak the amp and the mxr distortion + and voila!
It was a night to remember , cause when you see a rockstar next to you, it stays in your memory forever.
Very nice people, and real cool guys.
Man.... this is gold. So much apricated what Full In Bloom does.... BTW. Sacred Heart is a fantastic exit album if the great Mr. Campbell.
good album, but Shoot, Shoot ain't no Stairway to Heaven lol
A VERY famous 80s hairband hired me to put down a solo on one of their songs, i had agreed BEFOREHAND to not have any credits and didnt care because i was being WELL paid, THEN they cut the ACTUAL guitarist out of the credits as well. Its a dirty business.
Vivian was on Dio's first 3 records....nothing after even comes close
There’s truth to that. It got much better when Doug Aldrich came around, though.
@@georgeandritsakis1482 it definitely did.. Doug's a criminally under rated guitarist!!! Miles above most of what's out now....but nothing ever had the fire of the first three...but Doug comes pretty damm close!!
Agreed! Still one of my favorite guitarist of all time.
Any doubters on here should re-listen to his solo on Rainbow in the Dark. Not only does it ooze talent but Vivian puts on a friggin' guitar clinic with it.
Magica is pretty damn good. I’d say it’s his best solo album after the first 3 and maybe Dream evil.
Thanks for another interesting and informative video
Vivian is right, Dio should have had the balls to stand up to his wife and say "hey, we've got something really special going on here, and we're going to pay these guys what they're worth!".
So shouldn't ozzy, Sharon's an opportunistic c***
Or maybe it’s easy to talk shit about a guy who’s been dead 12 years and can’t defend himself. Why is Vivian still crying about money from 35+ Years ago? Get over it. He’s made plenty since. And also it’s funny you mentioned “having balls” considering Def Leppard music has been neutered since the 80s!
@@cirenotsluor9999 You would be "crying" if you got ripped off, too. 🙂
@@petarticinovic2710 We all get shit on in life. He's had a very succesful career yet he harps on stuff that he could have refused to agree to. No one forced him to play in the band.
@@cirenotsluor9999 because he was replying to Wendy's comments?
Cool utube Channel. Keep up the great work.
Mr. Mcpherson. Good to hear from you. SHHHHHHHHHH. Don't tell anyone.
Holy diver and last in line are classics,the guitar work on the last in line album is unbelievable...
Hi Rebecca, yes indeed My two favorites as well without doubt
Total betrayal by Ronnie.. Which led to the destruction of the best DIO lineup, period!
@@kskip4242 actually he was. Look at how respected he was, but we all saw the video where he blasted Vivian he clearly had an ego and a temper, but he did treat the fans well.
But he was going Ozzy .....backstabbing and breaking promises.
@@kskip4242 In general, Ronnie was a nice guy by Rock standards. But there's no doubt that he took advantage of Viv, probably justifying that he was the veteran who paid his dues while Viv was a kid who ought to be grateful for whatever he could get.
@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle They both made a lot of people. Everybody wanted a peice of them they were the stars and the commercial force. Some people are going to get bitter along the way.
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@@kskip4242 Wow good one. Very original. Another pathetic Vivian bootlicker I see
Dio could have been really big in the 80's had he kept the original band together. Instead, he went through a bunch of guitarists and released ok albums. He never did better than his first two albums and I guess he couldn't see the big picture in the beginning and it cost him in the end. The only Dio album I really like apart from the first two is Lock Up The Wolves. He should have kept Rowan because he was the most perfect player for Dio.
long live viv
those 1st two
dio recordings...⚡🔥💥
Ronnie proved to be a small man in more ways than one.
Sadly, Ronnie never learned from this mistake, and continued to pay his musicians poorly. That's why he's had so many players in his band. A friend of mine was playing guitar for Dio in the early 2000's, but quit because the guitar store he worked at paid him way more money lol.
Did he play with them on tour or was he like a session guy on an album?
@@johnnymoon he never got that far. He replaced Craig Goldy in 2002 IIRC, and jammed with them for a month or two before quitting and being replaced with Doug Aldrich I believe.
@@machupikachu1085 Oh cool. Thanks.
@@machupikachu1085 Ei irmão,esse cara que ficou 1 ou 2 meses na Dioband no lugar de Craig Goldy,antes de Doug Aldrich é o ...tcha-tcha-tcha-tchaaaa...Warren DeMartini!!!!!
Abraços do Brasil,amigo do guitarrista misterioso!!!
Great that Vivian has the balls to speak up about the injustice and manipulation. God
Bless
I had a chat with Viv at Heathrow airport before he joined Def Leppard when I was 21 ish and aspiring to be a musician etc... He told me, stop practicing, write songs and own your song publishing. He then said, your a software kid, just do that if you like sleeping and having a family, chances you do well as a musician is so rare and stressful etc... He was such a normal person and I took his life advice!
I really honestly believe that Vivian and most guitar players that are true musicians feel the same way he does with trust issues! I know that I have never been really screwed financially because I never really made it big like him but I have been screwed over the years by fellow musicians in different ways! For example we jammed with a singer for like 2 years and got to the point where we were going to go from playing class b bars to play in the circuit which was considered class A bars! Well the singer had us do a five song demo to get us into this management to play those nice places we would have played from Canada to Florida! Well I didn't know and the other people didn't know it was all to get the singer in an established band that was already doing that and we got screwed! And I do know Chris Holmes from wasp got screwed to like Vivian did!It must be that we were easy to manipulate when we were. Younger and really just wanted to.play rock-'n'-roll guitar!
there was a lot of this, a lot of these guys like ozzy and Dio were paying it forward, of course Ozzy and Darth hideous were the most egregious.
I still dont think it was Ozzy. I think the Succubus named Sharon who did all the shady shit. When Iw as younger and watching the Osbornes I enjoyed the show. As I got older I look at it now and think That bitch knew Ozzy wasnt in a good place and she threw him out there to get money. Look at Ozzfest. Ozzy only seems happy when he is on the road. I wonder why? lol
@@Evl_1 stop exonerating Ozzy, he signed off on all code reds, he had Darth hideous execute the game plan, she's his fall guy, he's a lowlife. He told Jake he was screwing him over.
@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle I just hate her more than anything, I think she took advantage of people because her husband was famous and was strung out on drugs and drinking all the time. My EX did a lot of the same things to me while I was not in my right mind. But not saying hes 100% clean. I say maybe 40%. She is just a awful person. Said she sent Ozzy out on tour because she want a $25,000 diamond ring. No wonder he cheated on the Witch
I always loved Viv’s solo work on those first 2 albums with Dio and I totally get what Ronnie heard, where the cliche wanking ended and the music began. I remember reading a interview he did in a guitar mag, in these early days, where he pointed out that he knew nothing about guitar theory and that his solo’s were developed by simply playing along with and experimenting with the tracks they were cutting until he pieced together all these different parts. It was all technique and his ear!.. and it was brilliant and unique!!! That is a profound statement in a world where “great” solo work is considered endless, mindless sweep arpeggios *yawn*… Guitars players today would do well to put everything they know aside and try to be like early Vivian… quit playing licks and seek out the music and feel inside of the song. Use your ears, wing it, be free and fuck it up until you catch it!!! In my opinion that’s what made early Vivian great!.. BTW, ditto EVH!..
Sounds like Dio"s Rainbow was low on color, like black & white! Btw...I deliver stuff to a pretty big business in Cortland NY...and there is a street near this business called "Dio Way" its a VERY SHORT STREET...umm no pun intended 😜
This tarnishes the legacy of Dio and I agree that people in general need to honor their word period. I have heard so many simular stories in the music biz and as an artist myself have been exploited and ripped off.
A common problem throughout the creative arts industries: movies, music, gaming, writing, journalism. Always a promise of the land of honey just around the corner, work a little harder now and reap the rewards later.
Best advice to younger, upcoming artists. Speak to the journeymen in your industry, not the silver tonged marketing guys. If you choose to avoid shitty deals, you will always enjoy creating as no bad taste will be in your mouth and that can be a reward all in itself.
Campbell has always maintained that RJD was a talented artist, bad businessman and terrible human being and that his wife Wendy was a sleazy businesswoman.
Vivian rules !!!!
Always get it in writing, always
Vivian from my home city 🤘🤘
Viv's accounting is believable. Dio and Wendy pulled A Sharon. Sadly for Ronnie it was downhill the moment he cast Viv off. His resurgence in the late 90's and 2000's was the Heaven and Hell/ Sabbath reunion records. The fact that Vinnie and Bain formed Last in Line with Viv says quite a lot about Viv's character imo.
I was a kid in the 70s and a teenager in the 80s. Holy Diver and Last in Line were two albums that shaped my music taste for the rest of my life. I have both CDs in my car right now. The solo to Invisible is still my favorite of all time. And it was all Vivian and Ronnie. I know Vivian and RJD had a big falling out at the end. I remember when Vivian said that he was moving on and it wasn’t going to be this 🤘🏻and flashed the horns, meaning he was done with Dio
I like that solo too a lot, I always thought the rainbow in the dark solo was just insane, Campbell has always been one of my favorites, I can't believe they made that little, I made more than that working in a car parts department in the 80s
@@jimdickson7953 Yeah, the stories about how record companies just raped these guys is just criminal. I watched an interview with DLR of Van Halen and he told stories about how their label took all the money and they were lucky to make 80 cents for every record they sold. Shame on them for allowing it to happen
I’m a Dio fan. I loved him in Rainbow, Sabbath and his solo stuff. That said, he badmouths almost everyone he has played with, while playing on this “nice guy” image. I don’t think he was any worse than anyone else in the business, and likely better than many, but I don’t think he was as nice a guy as many fans want to believe he was.
But, but, but, Dio was supposedly the greatest guy who ever walked the earth.
Love Vivian s playing 😎🤘🎸☝️
Vivian also said in an other interview Ronnie James Dio was mean spirited to him.Which is sad i always had a lot of respect for Ronnie,and he seems like the coolest guy in interviews ive seen him do.
Seen them in Dayton Ohio in 85 sacred heart tour in my top 5 concert's I've seen, Vivian blew the roof off.....
I've heard this story a few times and he never deviates from it which would make me think it's the truth. Campbell is wasted in Def Leppard.
At least he gets paid though. After getting paid peanuts throughout metal's biggest decade, I'm sure he was very glad to finally make a decent buck off of his talents.
@@machupikachu1085 There is that. Def Leppard is a good gig if you can get it and I'm sure playing stuff like Wasted would appeal to him but this is the guy who made two classic albums with Dio. Playing someone else's guitar solos rather than your own must be annoying.
At least he got his paycheck and massive recognition but yeah, neither him nor Dio were the same artistically after the split.
Jake E Lee : Bark at the Moon , Rock 'n' Roll Rebel .
Vivian Campbell : Don't Talk to Strangers , Hungry for Heaven
Vivian you rock !
holy diver and The last in line are by far the best Dio albums.
I cannot believe the similarities between this situation and Ozzy all the way to the original 'band' being magical and the greedy wife managing.. Crazy..
I'll always feel bad for Viv, he's a great guitarist and a great guy. The only consolation in all this is that Dio opened the door for the Def Leppard gig and most notably, Whitesnake. He ultimately got the credit he deserved but it sux he had to go through what he did to get there.
Mr. Vivian Patrick Campbell 🔥🔥🎸💪👊😎🤘
Mr. Ronald James Padavona 😢
Mr. James Stewart Bain 😢
Mr. Vinnie Sansom Appice
Simply The True Dio Band & The Best Line Up 😎
Dio said after the Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow Album that the whole band contributed. Ritchie said that it was because he was the Name Recognition. On the Second Rainbow Album Ritchie just Billed the Band Rainbow. When Dio started out with his band he just Billed himself.
One of the greatest songs...
i purchased tickets to see Dio with Campbell. From the time i bought tickets to when the show happened was about the time Vivian got fired and Craig Goldie took over. Craig was a great player but we paid to see Vivian.
Interesting story and I do believe Viv totally.
But what it does bother me is that Dio always said aaah in Rainbow it was not that easy to work with Richie etc…. Bla bla
So Dio wasn’t better at all.
The white haired witch behind him destroyed it all.
As usual
Like Yoko Ono and the Beatles or Sharon and Ozzys Band etc……
Dio talked a load of guff over the years about the revolving door guitarists he had after Campbell. I remember he touted Rowan Robertson as better than Blackmore and Iommi.
A gentleman's deal never works out . This is how the greedy preys on good people. Always have it documented
Poor guy! You could only afford a Ferrari!
I love the channel, but why do you record everything via long distance telephone?
ha ha. always thinking the same thing. Sounds like he's in a closed mailbox.
Well Def Leppard took care of our boy Viv they treated him like a superstar that he is
A good band is made up of a human chemistry. If it klicks, and you have the will to make it work, it will. Attitudes, self pride, and what not will undue this formula, and when it’s lost, well that’s what Rock History is. I still enjoy the old albums of my youth as if I just bought them yesterday. Allot of the younger crowd also enjoy the discovery of these Jen’s as we did of days past. It’s refreshing and talented intelligent minded music. Long Live Rock!
Perfectly stated Keith
Viv is the reason why I got the album!! Till this day he’s my #1 guitarist!! Same with Ozzy’s speak of the devil with Brad G and the next albums with Jake e.
If Cambells story is on point, I can agree that he made the right choice.
I always thought DEO was a classy guy. I guess he was no different than Ozzy and his Bitch.
guys like viv and jake e. lee were between a rock and a hard place.....ultimately, it was either "sign over your shit or get the fuck out."
There had been bad blood between Vivian and Dio, and Dio isn't here to defend himself.
i was hanging sheetrock back then , making 600 a week and laying out at least once a week .So the guys on the radio at the jobsite was making less than the clean up laborers ,plus we wore sweat pants instead of the leather required by the Eighties metal dweebers.....
Remember all those rad solos Craig Goldy played? Me neither.
He was coerced? If he didn't like the deal, he should have negotiated. Also, 400 a week was a lot of money in 1983. My mom made 140 a week and raised two kids on it.
@@gordon9177 It's all in the contracts. I feel for the guy, but he was straight up told that he did not have an equity position in the band. That means he is a salaried employee, and nothing else. There's no way an accomplished guitarist for Dio wouldn't know this. He was a hired gun/studio musician with a vague, non specific promise of something down the road. Once a negotiation is over, it's over. Yeah, I think Wendy is kind of a b*tch for it, but as a manager she probably didn't respect him based on what he agreed to. People respect people who stick up for themselves and their worth. And to Ronnie's defense, the guy DID buy a Ferrari. Hell, I slept on Mom's couch too, but never stacked up enough cash to drop on a Ferrari! So Ronnie WAS taking care of him, and maybe there was an equity position down the road, but the guy wanted to back out of what he agreed to.
@@gordon9177 Yeah, but I could fill an encyclopedia of all the guys who are like "yeah man, rock n freakin roll! I don't know nuthin about business crap, I just play my riffs. Hope I die before I get old."
They they get old and complain about it.
400 a week was not a lot of money in 83. That’s barely over 20k a year which was pretty much the starting salary at that time for any basic degree. I know as I was just out of college at that point myself. Union factory workers made about double that back then 20 an hour at the mills. We are talking about a guitarist in a huge band not some bar band. The first 2 albums Viv played on went platinum - a million plus in sales. The third was gold with 500k plus sold. He was flat out ripped off.
@@flyingburritobro68 minimum wage in 83 was 3.35 an hour, I was alive then too. That's the equivalent of over 40 bucks an hour now, with hotels and every other expense thrown in. How do you know how many points Ronnie got on the album? Record companies take all promotional, tour support and any expenses out the Artist's share.
Viv didn't get ripped, he got exactly what he negotiated, and now says he was "coerced"
What? Did Ronnie "The Iceman" Dio tell him "Mamma likes a da sauce, capiche? You betta sign a da paper if you know was good a for you."
…are ya nuts ???? 400 a week , shit in 83 , I made that a night easy , biker , had the coke straight outa columbia, and made a “ fortune” never got poped . Played in a few bands , back in 77-79 , lots of tail , but the money , ? Then a biker , but I always owned my house , bikes , pick-ups , paid cash , life was good , but I saw the end commin and quit dealin 87-88 , but the point , money can’t buy you happiness !
i agree Steven he's been held back
I can't believe Mtv missed the opportunity of having Sharron Osbourne and Wendy Dio on Celebrity Death Match.
Woops, I thought this was about Alvin Lee. Anybody see the resemblance?
As much as Ronnie stated in interviews that he was treated badly by Ritchie Blackmore and also by Black Sabbath, Ronnie does the exact same thing when he is in a position of power. I never believed that “Dio” was a band meaning it was an equal partnership. Ronnie always said that Ritchie “ liked to kick people in the teeth when they were down.” Well, I guess that treatment carries over to you as well. I’m not saying that I totally disliked Ronnie but, he and Wendy were no better than Sharon and Ozzy.
Nether one ever had that type of success again
$400 a week (in what 1984,1985?) Was very good money - especially with little overhead. In addition you're playing guitar; and not working in construction or something similar
- did the math and it's about $1,200 today. Not bad but I he probably only got paid when touring or maybe in studio idk. Still not eating potatoes every night
The long standing reputation Ronnie had was "he's a great guy to the fans but you don't want to work for him"
I loved Vivian in Dio. When he left it never was as good. I think Ronnie had everyone fooled into thinking Vivian was a bad person, turns out it was him and his greed.
Those Dio records were the shit. Why he fluffed out with Def Lep is disappointing.
I met him at a NAMM show and my best friend asked him about that "what are you doing in Def Leppard?" and his response was "at the end of the day it's a job and you gotta get paid" I'm still shocked that my buddy asked him that, but Viv laughed and was very gracious when he answered.
this is why he formed Last in line to embrace his A league legacy
@@wrallpaul66 he is being 100% honest but we all know why he formed Last in Line
The Def Leppard guys actually have a good working relationship, though. Viv probably wanted to be in a band where he would be treated better.
@@ryanjacobson2508 I agree, he looks happy and content in DL.
OK, let's do some ball park calculations. Back in the mid-80s a Ferrari 308 in the UK would have cost about £60,000. Even if it took Viv 3 years to save, that's £20k per year - savings, after what little he does spend. Let's say, he spends (like he claims) zero pounds for 3 years (which is hard to believe), then he's earning £20k p.a. minimum. Now, with the UK retail price index, in today's money (2022) that's up by a factor of 3.56. That means in today's real terms, he was earning £20,000 x 3.56 = £71,000 p.a. MINIMUM! For those in other countries, you are classed as 'wealthy;' here in the the UK if your income is more than £60k. I wouldn't call that 'grim' mate.
He came from a rich family. His father no doubt paid him an allowance
So did I understand right that Ronnie actual wrote the main guitar riffs in holy Diver? So Ronnie played guitar? I had always assumed Vivian had composed all the guitar parts.
ronnie recorded the bass parts on Heaven and Hell, he could write songs. he was a musician A lot of the songs were written without VIv
@Mike Berry he's an A leaguer for many reasons
There's a lot of this in the creative arts, unless you get conformation of agreements in writing on a contract, this is all too common, sucks.
That solo to rainbow in the dark.almost killed me it was so good.and I'm the damn drummer.
You're the drummer for what?
Wendy is no different than Sharon
I watched a fan video where Dio swore and cursed Vivian.
Why is Dio acting so angry, I thought.
He said “Def fkn who”??? When a journalist asked what Ronnie thought of Viv making truck loads of money in Def Leppard
Not just Ozzy & Sharon. Greed screwed a lot of great artists. John Sykes got royally screwed by David Coverdale… I mean, you could argue that Sykes lost his shot at a place at the Great Guitarists’ table when Coverdale cut him and most of the recording artists on the 1987 album in advance of the tour. It’s sick.
And Dio seemed like a great honorable guy. Bummer.
So Ronnie was part of the reason the guitar solo on Holy Diver was so amazing. And he already had the song written before Viv even joined the band. Interesting.