I know he says he is not a teacher but I think he is a great teacher .I was always taught that REAL furniture makers use hide glue BECAUSE you can take joints apart and repair them . PVA does NOT allow that . Great tips .
I gotta say, I really appreciate your videos. You're thorough while still being succinct and I love the little sidebar/footnote comments you add. Your instruction is dense with information and very engaging!
I have no interest whatsoever in making a router table, but the tips, tricks, techniques, and just general knowledge shared in this video are applicable to most every project I work on. Thank you.
Very nice, educational vid. I sold most of my power tools which had been around to long and are replacing with new tools, a router and table we’ll build new. Your vid is very timely. Look forward to segment 2. Thanks for taking the time to make this vid. Really like how you mitered and fitted the edges, great idea. Jack in Missouri
Excellent! Thanks for the hide glue tip. And the climb cut edging tip with blue tape. Could have used that one last weekend building a display platform.
Made one some years back similar to yours except I used white Formica with contact cement. Use it in shop and on the field and It's still flat. I really like your idea of using hide glue for future new top👍
Sometimes a Luthier will put hide glue on one side of a joint and let it dry overnight. The next morning they will fit the joints together and take a hot pallet knife to warm up the glue so they can slowly stick the 2 joints to each other without having to worry about joint alignment issues. Hide glue is my glue of choice when I know my work will not be subjected to heat or excess moisture. Hide glue, in my opinion, is just nicer to work with than the modern plastic glues.
May I ask why you taped up the whole white top with painters' tape? Were you just being extra careful and could've just as well only taped the edges that needed to be routered? Great instructional video, btw! I have a manufactured router table, but it's just pressed steel and also not flat, so I'd really like to build this. I also like your practice of trying out techniques on stuff you build for yourself to gain experience for the future. I joined two pieces of wood to make one longer piece to use as support for a drawer in the shop by combining a half lap and 45° scarf joint yesterday to see if it would work for something else for which I have a severe shortage of the right lengths of wood of the right kind!
Interesting to watch. A couple of questions. What is the purpose of making sure the top is square. Why the wood side? Would the white top stuff not cover the ugly plywood ends?
That was great. How come you didn't add the edge banding after the white board to cover and protect its edges? I have a large commercial router table and a smaller one that i made myself. Weight is an issue for me so i made the top by making an aluminium angle structure for stability and laminating it between 1/4 melamine faced ply. the gaps are filled with insulation board, which soaks up noise and vibration. The top works well and is stable after a few years of use.
He mentioned that he might need to replace the top in the future, so if he had put the edge banding on after the white board was applied he would have to remove the banding to replace it. My router table top is melamine glued to MDF, then bonded to 3/4 plywood, and I did put my banding on as you suggest since if I have to replace the melamine for some reason I'm going to trash the whole top and rebuild it anyway. If I get a big chip or crack in the melamine I think it would be easier to fill the defect with epoxy and move on from there.
@@halsonger1317 Thanks Hal, I must have not been paying attention at that point. I'm thinking of rebuilding the top of my bought router table, so am looking round for ideas. It's 1 1/2" mdf/melamine and is definitely not flat. Since building a micro-adjust fence for my homemade small router table I now need to modify my larger table to include that too. It's never ending : )
Well done instructional video. I think if I do a similar build, I would apply the white board before the edge banding, then the edge of the white board wold be better protected from bangs and dings. But, hey, that's me. BTW, I hope you cleaned any tape residues off of that white board before writing on it. A little residue will hold even dry erase marker. Since you already have episodes 2 and 3 out, guess I'll get to go and see right now. Thanks for sharing this build and instruction with us. Oh, one question, why not a torsion box build to hold the top flat? Thanks.
I literally just laminated the top of my new router table today... From 2 sheets of mdf.... I suppose I'll be adding some 2x4 supports on the underside. Any other suggestions?
Im wondering why one might not want to combine a layer of ply and a layer of mdf? Seems like you could get the benefit of the flatness and smoothness if the mdf as the top layer and the structural stability and sag prevention of the ply as the bottom layer. Are there “cons” to this approach I’m not thinking of? I’m trying to decide if I should build my own top or just take the plunge and buy a cast iron top. I like the idea of just not having the doubts in the back of my mind that might come with building my own but the money savings is very tempting.
@@wortheffort maybe you should alot of new people like me have bought the warrior table saw and like me we are new to this. Think the video would get a lot of views.
The grain of the wood is in the shape of a cathedral spire . It comes from both sides and slopes up and meets in the middle . Just like the shape of a cone or cathedral spire.
I built my router table a few years back and did the usual MDF with melamine. Would sealing the MDF on the bottom and edges help with the moisture issue.
Timing couldn’t be better as I’m in the midst of rebuilding my router table as the big brand router plate was not flat, apparently they claim this is intensional but it makes it impossible to level the plate, so I’m having to star over with a different brand of plate.
I dropped you an email through you website about possible unauthorised use of clips of your videos and have not had a response, I managed to get still screen shots if you want them
Coxey's Wood Bodgering Chinese company using Facebook ads. I’m a guy in a warehouse. Nothing I can do. Same ad used by 100 companies. Selling something not even used in clips stolen. From a site that also sells ladies dresses on same page. Obvious scam.
I know he says he is not a teacher but I think he is a great teacher .I was always taught that REAL furniture makers use hide glue BECAUSE you can take joints apart and repair them . PVA does NOT allow that . Great tips .
Unintended Cathedrals is my favorite indie band
I gotta say, I really appreciate your videos. You're thorough while still being succinct and I love the little sidebar/footnote comments you add. Your instruction is dense with information and very engaging!
Dude thanks!! Awesome time watching you in your shop stuff and learning stuff.
I have no interest whatsoever in making a router table, but the tips, tricks, techniques, and just general knowledge shared in this video are applicable to most every project I work on. Thank you.
Thanks
Thank you for this info and all the work you put inti it. I feel I am studying under a great instructor. Thanks again!
Thank You Sir!!! Great Info & Video!!! Looking forward to the next video!!! 👍😎😁
You are awesome!
My cabinets are waiting for me to build a router table. This couldn't be more timely.
Gotta get me some hide glue.
Thanks
Very nice, educational vid. I sold most of my power tools which had been around to long and are replacing with new tools, a router and table we’ll build new. Your vid is very timely.
Look forward to segment 2.
Thanks for taking the time to make this vid. Really like how you mitered and fitted the edges, great idea.
Jack in Missouri
Thanks, for all the tips, time and explanation!!! I'm learning a lot and I can tell you that I'm on the right track!!!
Really enjoying your videos, thankyou for sharing.
Thanks
Excellent! Thanks for the hide glue tip. And the climb cut edging tip with blue tape. Could have used that one last weekend building a display platform.
Thanks
Great video - Thanks
Great vid series. Love it!
Good idea with the masking tape. Hard board chips and frays so easily.
Very nice 👍
Made one some years back similar to yours except I used white Formica with contact cement. Use it in shop and on the field and It's still flat. I really like your idea of using hide glue for future new top👍
Sometimes a Luthier will put hide glue on one side of a joint and let it dry overnight. The next morning they will fit the joints together and take a hot pallet knife to warm up the glue so they can slowly stick the 2 joints to each other without having to worry about joint alignment issues. Hide glue is my glue of choice when I know my work will not be subjected to heat or excess moisture. Hide glue, in my opinion, is just nicer to work with than the modern plastic glues.
May I ask why you taped up the whole white top with painters' tape? Were you just being extra careful and could've just as well only taped the edges that needed to be routered? Great instructional video, btw! I have a manufactured router table, but it's just pressed steel and also not flat, so I'd really like to build this.
I also like your practice of trying out techniques on stuff you build for yourself to gain experience for the future. I joined two pieces of wood to make one longer piece to use as support for a drawer in the shop by combining a half lap and 45° scarf joint yesterday to see if it would work for something else for which I have a severe shortage of the right lengths of wood of the right kind!
Great videos - you would be a great college professor.
Thanks
Interesting to watch. A couple of questions. What is the purpose of making sure the top is square. Why the wood side? Would the white top stuff not cover the ugly plywood ends?
That was great. How come you didn't add the edge banding after the white board to cover and protect its edges?
I have a large commercial router table and a smaller one that i made myself. Weight is an issue for me so i made the top by making an aluminium angle structure for stability and laminating it between 1/4 melamine faced ply. the gaps are filled with insulation board, which soaks up noise and vibration. The top works well and is stable after a few years of use.
He mentioned that he might need to replace the top in the future, so if he had put the edge banding on after the white board was applied he would have to remove the banding to replace it. My router table top is melamine glued to MDF, then bonded to 3/4 plywood, and I did put my banding on as you suggest since if I have to replace the melamine for some reason I'm going to trash the whole top and rebuild it anyway. If I get a big chip or crack in the melamine I think it would be easier to fill the defect with epoxy and move on from there.
@@halsonger1317 Thanks Hal, I must have not been paying attention at that point. I'm thinking of rebuilding the top of my bought router table, so am looking round for ideas. It's 1 1/2" mdf/melamine and is definitely not flat. Since building a micro-adjust fence for my homemade small router table I now need to modify my larger table to include that too. It's never ending : )
Well done instructional video. I think if I do a similar build, I would apply the white board before the edge banding, then the edge of the white board wold be better protected from bangs and dings. But, hey, that's me.
BTW, I hope you cleaned any tape residues off of that white board before writing on it. A little residue will hold even dry erase marker. Since you already have episodes 2 and 3 out, guess I'll get to go and see right now.
Thanks for sharing this build and instruction with us.
Oh, one question, why not a torsion box build to hold the top flat? Thanks.
Thomas Russell leaves chance boards would snag on banding.
@@wortheffort yeah, thats true. Good point.
Hi Shawn. I need to learn more about wood and how it’s cut and definitions and all about it. Can you suggest any books?
Hyde glue... Awesome.
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I literally just laminated the top of my new router table today... From 2 sheets of mdf....
I suppose I'll be adding some 2x4 supports on the underside. Any other suggestions?
Im wondering why one might not want to combine a layer of ply and a layer of mdf? Seems like you could get the benefit of the flatness and smoothness if the mdf as the top layer and the structural stability and sag prevention of the ply as the bottom layer. Are there “cons” to this approach I’m not thinking of? I’m trying to decide if I should build my own top or just take the plunge and buy a cast iron top. I like the idea of just not having the doubts in the back of my mind that might come with building my own but the money savings is very tempting.
They make that, mdf with a ply exterior.
Just wondering: Would a torsion box work as the top? So it would stay flat. Or would there be no advantage to it over the plywood? Thanks in advance.
Not sure but it'd be oftly thick to get any benefit from being a torsion box.
@wortheffort do you have a table saw bench video?
No, never needed one.
@@wortheffort ok just built the work bench. Thanks for taking the time to make the video. It turned out great.
@@wortheffort maybe you should alot of new people like me have bought the warrior table saw and like me we are new to this. Think the video would get a lot of views.
When you have time could you please explain “cathedrals “, never heard the term before.
Jack in Missouri
Watch video on wood in prerequisite course.
The grain of the wood is in the shape of a cathedral spire . It comes from both sides and slopes up and meets in the middle . Just like the shape of a cone or cathedral spire.
I built my router table a few years back and did the usual MDF with melamine. Would sealing the MDF on the bottom and edges help with the moisture issue.
Of course it would but make sure it is dry to where you want it BEFORE sealing.
Timing couldn’t be better as I’m in the midst of rebuilding my router table as the big brand router plate was not flat, apparently they claim this is intensional but it makes it impossible to level the plate, so I’m having to star over with a different brand of plate.
ugh
I dropped you an email through you website about possible unauthorised use of clips of your videos and have not had a response, I managed to get still screen shots if you want them
Coxey's Wood Bodgering Chinese company using Facebook ads. I’m a guy in a warehouse. Nothing I can do. Same ad used by 100 companies. Selling something not even used in clips stolen. From a site that also sells ladies dresses on same page. Obvious scam.
Meh, just buy a cast iron top metal base shaper table😝